[00:40] <Pendulum> doctormo: meeting?
[06:51]  * nigelb waves to kim0
[06:51] <nigelb> good morning :)
[06:58] <jussi> what the heck! I just emailed to googles enterprise sales, and got permanent failure, on the address they gave me to send to!!! ???
[06:58]  * jussi doesnt get it
[07:10] <kim0> nigelb: Morning man :)
[07:10]  * kim0 waves hi to everyone
[07:11] <nigelb> jussi: irony :/
[07:12] <kim0> gmail fails too much
[07:15] <nigelb> heh
[07:48] <sense> good morning
[07:53] <dholbach> good morning
[07:56] <sense> morning dholbach
[07:57] <dholbach> hey sense
[08:09] <nigelb> morning dpm, dholbach :)
[08:09] <nigelb> and sense too
[08:10] <sense> morning nigelb, dpm
[08:10] <dholbach> heya nigelb
[08:10] <sense> I keep trying to autocomplete 'morning', but apparently XChat doesn't recognise that nick.
[08:10] <dpm> good morning all!
[08:12] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:14] <jussi> sense: hehe, I do that often :P
[08:15] <sense> jussi: But you're supposed to know how IRC works!
[08:15] <sense> vishnoo!
[08:15] <jussi> sense: :D
[08:16] <vishnoo> sense, hey
[08:16] <sense> jussi: Now I've got your attention. vishnoo has been busy with a bug concerning the default IRC server in Empathy, which was set to Freenode. But there is also the Ubuntu Server in the list of IRCs ervers.
[08:16] <sense> jussi: What do we want to use?
[08:17] <jussi> irc.ubuntu.com port 8000
[08:17] <vish> sense, yeah , already asked about that on -irc :) , hence filed the bug
[08:17] <sense> vish: OK, but then we don't want Freenode as the default IRC server in Empathy, right?
[08:18] <vish> sense, well , if that is what every documentation refers to , seems ok
[08:18] <sense> jussi: not 8001?
[08:19] <jussi> sorry, typo.
[08:20] <sense> ok
[08:23] <nigelb> vish: why the nick change, vishnoo looks better :)
[08:24] <sense> nigelb, vish: Yeah, use you're real name, like I did!
[08:24] <sense> Professionalise your online presence.
[08:24] <vish> sense: nigelb: well , my cloak is registered for vish and actually  something crashed and all my xhcat config got wiped out :/
[08:25] <nigelb> lol
[08:25] <sense> vish: You can register multiple nicknames to one account on Freenode.
[08:26] <vish> sense: yeah , but now i'm trying to figure out what went wrong ;)
[08:26] <sense> Report a bug!
[08:27]  * jussi likes vish... 
[08:30] <vish> :)
[08:58] <vish> sense: looks like you accidentally milestoned the metacity last bug to jaunty-updates :)
[08:59] <vish> s/last//
[08:59] <sense> huh? :P
[08:59] <sense> Really?
[08:59] <sense> Strange.
[08:59] <sense> vish: Thanks for noticing!
[08:59] <vish> np..
[09:01] <ara> morning all!
[09:01] <dholbach> ara: hola Señorita
[09:06] <huats> morning
[09:07] <dholbach> salut huats
[09:07] <huats> morning dholbach
[09:31] <czajkowski> ALOHA folks
[09:32] <huats> morning czajkowski
[10:10] <dpm> morning czajkowski
[10:11] <dpm> hey huats, how's it going? :-)
[10:12] <huats> hello dpm !
[10:12] <huats> I am fine thanks !
[10:12] <huats> you ?
[10:12] <huats> not too heated in spain ?
[10:14] <dpm> no, no, today it's fine actually :)
[10:14] <huats> :)
[10:20] <sense> morning czajkowski
[10:20] <czajkowski> howdy
[10:21]  * jussi shivers, quite cold here
[10:25] <nigelb> its sorta perfect here :)
[12:30] <sense> GUADEC group picture: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikslor/4859930116/in/set-72157624526513347/>.
[12:34] <dpm> sense, nice!
[12:35] <sense> dpm: Are you on it?
[12:37] <dpm> sense, yeah, right under the O and G from Hogeschool :)
[12:38] <sense> yay!
[12:38] <dpm> at the back
[12:38] <sense> I see you!
[12:38] <dpm> :-)
[13:19] <kim0> flickr accepts photos in tar files ?!
[13:30] <nigelb> whoa
[13:30] <paultag> that's nifty
[13:30] <paultag> Do they take tgz ?
[13:31] <nigelb> maybe you want bzip too :D
[13:34] <popey> RAR!
[13:35] <kim0> lol
[13:36] <paultag> I'm going to be honest. For a second I thought you said rwar popey
[14:18] <paultag> akgraner: have a sec?
[14:18] <paultag> Has to do with News'ey things
[15:02] <sense> dpm: How often does Launchpad import translations from GNOME?
[15:03] <dpm> sense, on every package upload, so the frequency depends on how often new packages are released. This is going to change, though, and soon translations will be imported directly from bzr branches mirrored from GNOME git, so it will be more like daily or so
[15:04] <sense> dpm: OK
[15:04] <sense> dpm: thanks! I'll pass that on to Ubuntu NL/GNOME NL
[15:04] <dpm> sense, there's more info on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TranslationLifecycle as well
[15:04] <sense> dpm: Great, thanks!
[15:06] <dpm> and here: http://danilo.segan.org/blog/launchpad/automatic-translations-sharing :)
[15:07] <sense> thanks!
[15:08] <sense> dpm: Do you pronounce the double ll in your last name as the 'j' sound in the French wordt 'vanille', or not?
[15:12] <dpm> sense, it's not exactly like a j, but close, yes.
[15:12] <sense> dpm: Not the English/French j, of course. My bad, was thinking of Dutch here.
[15:13] <dpm> yeah, yeah, I got it when I saw the 'j' :)
[15:14] <dpm> sense, there is a (rather scary) sound sample here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatal_lateral_approximant :-)
[15:15] <sense> dpm: I think that was about the sound I was thinking of!
[15:47] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:47] <jono> dholbach, hey
[15:48] <highvoltage> howdy community-team!
[15:49] <popey> YO!
[15:50] <sense> hallo!
[15:57] <highvoltage> hallo sense, hoe gaan dit?
[15:58] <sense> highvoltage: Alles goed hier, hoe gaat het met jou?
[15:58] <highvoltage> goed, dankie!
[15:58] <sense> It is possible!
[15:59] <sense> :P
[15:59] <highvoltage> :)
[15:59] <sense> We've made contact!
[15:59] <jono> dholbach, jcastro, dpm, kim0 about ready?
[15:59] <dholbach> jono: yep
[15:59]  * kim0 plugging inmic
[15:59] <dpm> jono, all set here
[15:59] <highvoltage> have you met Mark van der Borre? we communicate quite easily :)
[15:59] <kim0> let's mumble
[16:00] <sense> highvoltage: Never met him, or at least was aware that I was meeting him. Let me google him.
[16:00] <sense> highvoltage: How's your French coming along? :)
[16:00] <sense> highvoltage: Nope, never met him.
[16:01] <sense> The drawings at his website do look familiar, though.
[16:01] <highvoltage> sense: slowly but surely :)
[16:01] <jono> hmm mumble problems
[16:01] <jono> brb
[16:02] <dholbach> jono: we can hear you
[16:02] <dholbach> …not… again…
[16:02] <kim0> crank up the volume
[16:03] <kim0> does alsa still default to being muted :)
[16:03] <kim0> jono: yes
[16:04] <dholbach> jono: we can hear you
[16:04] <kim0> pulseaudio -k ; pulseaudio
[16:06]  * kim0 timing jono's boot speed
[16:12] <scott-work> jono, with all the talk about severed fifth's second album i went back and have been listening to the first one, i'm guessing most overlooked it but but the bass sound was really good i thought and the bass playing on 'kickback' and espeically 'war' were extremely enjoyable
[16:14] <jono> thanks scott-work :)
[16:34] <akgraner> hey paultag are you free now?
[16:51] <vish> hehe , Ben suggested OMG for a default bookmark ;)
[16:51] <popey> !
[17:02] <nigelb> vish: right, you can make it a wishlist :p
[17:03] <vish> nigelb: huh! so you accept it as a wishlist?  o.0
[17:03] <vish> nigelb: "opinion" ;p
[17:03] <nigelb> vish: yes.  In your dreams will it be done though.
[17:04] <paultag_> In the spirit of backhanded comments: vish why don't you ask someone who really knows how to get stuff finished?
[17:04]  * vish confused!
[17:04] <vish> paultag_: " how to get stuff finished?" ??
[17:05] <paultag_> I was making fun of nigelb vish
[17:05]  * nigelb kicks paultag_ 
[17:05] <paultag_> vish: I was trying to insinuate nigelb does not get anything done by a subtle backhanded comment
[17:05] <vish> paultag_: heh, not to worry , i never ask him though ;) he is like a black hole ;)
[17:05] <nigelb> vish: you missed yesterday's backhand "kinda" useful comment about paultag_ :D
[17:05] <AlanBell> #blamenigel
[17:06] <paultag_> nigelb: I seem to get that a lot
[17:06] <nigelb> paultag_: speaking of which, I did remind of you of something earlier today ;)
[17:06] <paultag_> "I was going to ask jon[o] but he is not around, so the loco council might be second best"
[17:06] <paultag_> that was said to me in locoteams one day
[17:06] <czajkowski> grin
[17:06] <paultag_> nigelb: I think, if it's what I think you're thinking
[17:06] <paultag_> czajkowski: PING! :)
[17:06] <czajkowski> oh dear
[17:07] <nigelb> AlanBell: #blamealan(s)
[17:07] <czajkowski> paultag_: yes..
[17:07] <paultag_> czajkowski: I love that we have that on ping :)
[17:07] <paultag_> czajkowski: Oh no, nothing dear :)
[17:07] <paultag_> ( I'm trying to avoid ma'am )
[17:07] <czajkowski> actuallly I have loco-council not loco council
[17:07] <paultag_> Perhaps I will use czajkowski dearest
[17:07]  * czajkowski frowns at paultag_ 
[17:07] <paultag_> czajkowski: Oh noes, well that does not work well, eh?
[17:07] <czajkowski> paultag_: so help me I'll fill your inbox up so fast
[17:08]  * paultag_ sits back down
[17:08] <paultag_> my phone was almost dead yesterday because of you
[17:08] <paultag_> it was ringing all day
[17:08] <czajkowski> paultag_: give it a week shall do the last 8
[17:08] <paultag_> :)
[17:10] <czajkowski> paultag_: you have mail
[17:11] <paultag_> czajkowski: sounds good to me :)
[17:11] <paultag_> czajkowski: I'll reply on thread
[17:13] <akgraner> paultag, you also have a PM from me :-)
[17:13] <paultag_> akgraner: woo! Wrong nick, though!
[17:13] <paultag_> ;)
[17:13] <akgraner> paultag, no musical IRC nicks :-P
[17:14] <akgraner> (just teasing you)
[17:14] <paultag_> I'm down at starbuck on my lunch break and my server is screwing with me today :)
[17:14] <czajkowski> paultag_: at least you're not cranky
[17:14] <czajkowski> hmm to gym or not to gym
[17:14] <paultag_> Nah! Check this out: I was at my local starbucks and they have useless trivia
[17:15] <paultag_> and I'm nothing if not a lover of usless stuff
[17:15] <paultag_> so I always know the ( easy ) answers and get free coffess
[17:15] <paultag_> today it was what cryto did the nazis use in WWII. Bloody easy! :)
[17:24] <nigelb> paultag_: well, if they let you use internet then its a #fail
[17:24] <paultag_> No wai!
[17:24] <paultag_> They watch you
[17:25] <paultag_> and if you touch your computer or phone they won't let you say anything
[17:26] <nigelb> aaha
[17:26] <nigelb> Enigma right?
[17:26] <paultag_> Yuppers
[17:27] <paultag_> that was what I said the second I got in
[17:27] <paultag_> you can only win once an hour and I get it every time. It's like people don't pay attention
[17:27] <nigelb> heh
[17:31] <czajkowski> http://twitter.com/Historyday intersting one to follow
[17:33] <randa_> thanks czajkowski
[17:33] <czajkowski> randa: hey there!
[17:33] <randa> :)
[17:33] <randa> czajkowski: On this day in 1996 "The Macarena" reached the top of the U.S. pop charts & would spend a record 60 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100.
[17:33] <czajkowski> wow
[17:34] <randa> wow
[17:34] <czajkowski> now I have that song in my head
[17:34]  * AlanBell is doing the dance
[17:34] <randa> oh noooo! so sorry czajkowski
[17:34] <randa> haha
[17:34] <AlanBell> (not really)
[17:34] <czajkowski> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5zKd1rqcM&feature=fvsr
[17:35] <randa> hahah, OMG
[17:35] <czajkowski> randa: playing in Canonical land might wake them all up
[17:36] <randa> well you can play it during UDS, and all dance with it
[17:36]  * randa would pay to see that
[17:36] <czajkowski> ohhhh
[17:36] <czajkowski> that could be a lot of fun!
[17:36] <randa> :)
[17:37] <czajkowski> randa: I say we get JFo to sing!
[17:37] <randa> czajkowski: please record it for me!
[17:37] <JFo> errr
[17:37]  * JFo reads back
[17:37] <JFo> oh yeah, I'll totally sing that
[17:38] <JFo> I have a hat just for it too
[17:38] <nigelb> heh
[17:38] <randa> anyway, czajkowski Macarena is better that "asereje"
[17:38] <JFo> plus I was thinking the All Stars could do a live RickRoll :)
[17:38] <nigelb> randa: I would as well, especially if JFo is going to sing
[17:38] <randa> :) cool
[17:38] <JFo> I even know the words :)
[17:39]  * JFo sees a potential revenue opportunity :-P
[17:39] <paultag_> We're no strangers to lovvvvvve
[17:39] <nigelb> JFo: lol
[17:39] <paultag_> If canonical gets me out to UDS, I'll dress up like rick for the assist
[17:39]  * nigelb points this conversation to akgraner 
[17:39] <JFo> nice paultag :)
[17:39]  * akgraner reads
[17:40] <czajkowski> randa: asereje ?
[17:40] <nigelb> czajkowski: ketchup song
[17:41] <nigelb> randa: did I guess right ^ ? :)
[17:41] <czajkowski> ohh that's an evil song!
[17:42] <nigelb> haha
[17:42] <highvoltage> wow now that's something I haven't heard in a long time
[17:43] <nigelb> I got hooked to george michaels recently
[17:43] <czajkowski> luisbg used to play this to drive me insane http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA
[17:44] <nigelb> House - some of the music featured in it is addictive
[17:44] <randa> czajkowski: sorry my computer crashed. Yes nigelb was right the ketchup song
[17:44] <czajkowski> randa: EVIL song
[17:44] <nigelb> I used to like it
[17:44] <randa> lol, true!
[17:44] <nigelb> once upon a time, before I saw it :/
[17:48] <akgraner> JFo, has to sing "the song that never ends"
[17:48] <czajkowski> gah doing tech support over the phone for the princess may drive me insane
[17:48] <JFo> akgraner, :)
[17:48] <nigelb> czajkowski: haha
[17:48] <JFo> akgraner, only if the Music Mafia are there :)
[17:49] <akgraner> JFo, they are planning on rolling in last I talked to them
[17:49] <JFo> yeah, so it could be on the agenda
[17:49] <JFo> :-D
[17:49] <akgraner> and I believe they will have Becca and Matt in tow as well
[17:49] <JFo> that is my understanding
[17:49] <akgraner> (you would think I would know that considering they are my kids - right?)
[17:49] <JFo> you mean my kids?
[17:49] <czajkowski> nigelb: http://pix.ie/czajkowski/554129/in/album/322424 that is my sister on the right
[17:50] <akgraner> whatever - you bribed them - now they don't claim Pete or I
[17:50] <akgraner> they told us we were too geeky the other day
[17:50] <nigelb> hahaha
[17:50] <JFo> I have no idea what you are talking about akgraner
[17:50] <nigelb> akgraner: sounds like your kids
[17:51] <JFo> I just know that if you ask them they will tell you that they are my kids :-P
[17:51] <nigelb> czajkowski: pretty :) Now at least the pricess is justified
[17:51] <JFo> and that i am single, etc. ;)
[17:51] <akgraner> nigelb, wait - one day you will meet them
[17:51] <akgraner> oh and JFo agreed to do a podcast with me
[17:51] <akgraner> hehe
[17:51] <czajkowski> nigelb: she's obsessed with pink. we're very different. it's amusing at times. and frustrating at other times
[17:52] <JFo> yep, I reserve the right to wear funny hats
[17:52] <akgraner> ugh
[17:52] <nigelb> akgraner: ok, that should be fun
[17:52] <akgraner> nigelb, it will probable have absolutely nothing to do with Ubuntu
[17:52] <nigelb> czajkowski: siblings are always fun
[17:52] <JFo> akgraner, you have yet to provide me a contract for said podcast so I reserve the right to change the terms :-)
[17:52] <nigelb> akgraner: haah, doesn't have to
[17:52] <akgraner> well maybe a little but ramblings most of the time
[17:52] <czajkowski> akgraner: http://pix.ie/czajkowski/1722674/size/800
[17:52] <nigelb> all ubuntu folks will hear it though
[17:53] <akgraner> czajkowski, too cute!
[17:53] <akgraner> JFo, contact - you don't need no stinking contract!
[17:53] <czajkowski> akgraner: she;s a right messer is Caoimhe she wanted the hat them kept pulling at it.
[17:53] <JFo> \o/ free-form podcast FTW!!!
[17:53] <akgraner> yeppers
[17:54] <akgraner> Pete and the kids will be popping in and out in the middle of the cast I am sure to interject something
[17:54] <JFo> oh naturally
[17:54] <akgraner> JFo, we need to figure out a day and all that good stuff
[17:54] <JFo> one that ends in Y of course
[17:54] <nigelb> you still have that bird cam that everyone  watched to listen to fight at home?
[17:55] <akgraner> we have the camera  - but it's not broadcasting at them moment
[17:55] <akgraner> the rather not them
[17:55] <nigelb> haha
[17:56] <czajkowski> akgraner: yer not well at times :p
[17:56]  * JFo searches for some fake teeth
[17:56] <JFo> and a monocle
[17:57]  * nigelb wonders if JFo wants more than 32 teeth
[17:57] <akgraner> JFo, haha fake teeth, monocle, overalls, and a smoking jacket
[17:57] <JFo> 42 would be nice, but then my teeth would be the meaning of... oh, you know
[17:57] <JFo> akgraner, shhh
[17:57] <JFo> don't give it all away
[17:58] <dholbach> ok my friends - calling it a day
[17:58] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[17:58] <dholbach> byeeeeeeeeeeeee
[17:58] <JFo> enjoy dholbach
[17:58] <maco> dholbach: have a good one
[17:58]  * dholbach hugs you all
[17:58] <dholbach> you too
[17:58] <nigelb> dholbach: g'nite
[17:58] <akgraner> I need to run as well
[17:58] <akgraner> I have a call in 2 mins
[17:58] <akgraner> bbiaf
[17:58] <maco> be back in a .... fire? friday? fortnight?
[18:00] <JFo> fraction?
[18:00] <JFo> Ford?
[18:00] <AlanBell> microfortnight
[18:00] <nigelb> haha
[18:00] <JFo> fajita?
[18:00] <nigelb> fullcircle?
[18:00] <JFo> fujitsu?
[18:00] <nigelb> fedora? :D :D
[18:00] <maco> i think nigelb wins
[18:00] <JFo> frog? as in reincarnation?
[18:00] <JFo> festiva?
[18:00] <maco> JFo: festivus for the restofus?
[18:00] <JFo> indeed
[18:01]  * JFo wanders back to bug alley
[18:01]  * czajkowski is loving bugzilla! 
[18:01]  * czajkowski hugs paultag 
[18:01]  * paultag hugs czajkowski 
[18:01]  * JFo would rather be using bugzilla
[18:01] <JFo> but No
[18:01] <JFo> I must use the pile of launchpad
[18:01] <JFo> errr
[18:01] <JFo> yes, that's right
[18:01]  * paultag is not an lp fan
[18:02]  * nigelb <3 LP
[18:02] <paultag> eww
[18:02] <paultag> it was nonfree for the longest time, and that made me cry inside
[18:02] <JFo> it isn't that
[18:02] <JFo> it is the lack of bug management features
[18:03] <JFo> that I have asked for
[18:03] <paultag> I'm convinced someone could fork LP and get it running killer in a few days
[18:03] <nigelb> JFo: yeah, I've asked for a few too, which got postponed
[18:03] <nigelb> paultag: hardly
[18:03] <paultag> they're petrified of breaking old systems
[18:03] <paultag> nigelb: no, they reject changes because they think it will break it
[18:03] <JFo> nigelb, I have a direct line to the top on my requests ;)
[18:03] <paultag> nigelb: so if someone forked it and hacked it to something nice, then it's game over ;)
[18:04] <JFo> with buy in from bigwigs
[18:04] <nigelb> JFo: you heard what I wanted at UDS.  It was mostly what you wanted too
[18:04] <JFo> paultag, it is a massive mess on the inside
[18:04] <JFo> nigelb, yep and mdz agrees
[18:04] <paultag> Well that's what you get for bootstrapping it as closed source
[18:04] <JFo> sabdfl was there as well in one of the sessions
[18:05] <nigelb> JFo: Oh!
[18:05] <paultag> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/infrastructures.png <-- obligatory xkcd
[18:05] <JFo> nigelb, he didn't speak much, but he listened and did not disagree
[18:05] <nigelb> JFo: I liked the idea of locking it so that noone can do anything on the bug report
[18:05] <JFo> yep
[18:05] <JFo> that is on the list
[18:10] <paultag> JFo: Oh, update on my kernel issues. I tested arch again for fun, it booted this time (?). I might close the bug this weekend after I test
[18:10] <JFo> huh
[18:10] <JFo> any relevant updates that you might have seen?
[18:10] <nigelb> JFo: \o/ thats awesome :)
[18:10] <paultag> JFo: It's really bugging me that it's so inconsistant. I'd feel better if my system was straight borked
[18:10] <JFo> yeah, I see tons of those
[18:11] <paultag> JFo: No, but something funny -- I matched Ubuntu kernel versions with the Debian kernel and it worked
[18:11] <JFo> I hate that there is no good way to capture tham
[18:11] <JFo> them*
[18:11] <JFo> odd that
[18:11] <paultag> JFo: so it might be an upstream module debian strips out that ubuntu keeps in, that arch also keeps in
[18:11] <czajkowski> JFo: I'll send you my laptop!
[18:11] <nigelb> lol
[18:11] <JFo> czajkowski, ok
[18:11] <JFo> but be warned, there are 6 in front of me now
[18:11] <JFo> :)
[18:11] <czajkowski> ugh
[18:11] <JFo> paultag, did you put that into the bug?
[18:12] <JFo> I find that really relevant
[18:12] <paultag> JFo: Yeah, I'll dump it in, let me boot it up and get exact version numbers etc
[18:12] <JFo> cool, thanks paultag
[18:12] <paultag> thank you :)
[18:12] <JFo> brb, need a new drink
[18:12] <JFo> my pleasure paultag :)
[18:12] <czajkowski> JFo: leave the JD alone at this hour
[18:13] <czajkowski> or there'll be 6 very sick laptops in front of you
[18:13] <paultag> czajkowski: 5:00 somewhere, mitite!
[18:13] <czajkowski> paultag: 18:12 here buddy
[18:13] <paultag> czajkowski: It's 5:00 over there right now
[18:13] <paultag> Oh dur +1
[18:13] <paultag> 6
[18:13] <czajkowski> grin
[18:13] <paultag> :)
[18:13] <czajkowski> paultag: only a few more weeks and you can have you 5 hrs ok
[18:14] <czajkowski> so we can have a week long is the meeting on now, oh feck it was an hour ago till folks cop DST
[18:14] <paultag> haha
[18:14]  * JFo isn't drinking JD czajkowski it is Sailor Jerry Rum ;)
[18:15] <czajkowski> Captin Morgan!
[18:15] <czajkowski> nyommy nyommy
[18:15] <paultag> JFo: wait, I lied to you -- it's an old kernel :(
[18:15] <paultag> JFo: 32-5
[18:15] <maco> someone call for my dad?
[18:15] <paultag> maco: Ha!
[18:15] <JFo> paultag, that is very interesting
[18:16] <JFo> I'm not sure exactly what to do with that info other than to ask the team
[18:16] <JFo> but there is obviously some change at play
[18:16] <paultag> JFo: Someone tried to get me to apport collect an unbootable system, d'oh
[18:16] <JFo> heh
[18:16] <dpm> see you all tomorrow, have a nice rest of the day!
[18:17] <paultag> JFo: yeah, one "Charlie Kravetz". I don't think he's kernel
[18:18] <JFo> ah, he is a good triager though
[18:18] <paultag> JFo: he marked it incomplete. Should I bump back to new or what?
[18:18] <JFo> probably missed the unbootable bit
[18:18] <paultag> Yeah, I mean, at least he got to it
[18:18] <paultag> +1, he's 5 a day so he must buzz thru them
[18:18] <nigelb> paultag: all kernel bugs are incomplete without testing with mainline kernel I think.
[18:18] <JFo> paultag, I'd respond, plus your findings on old kernel and set to confirmed
[18:19] <JFo> paultag, he is one of my saviors
[18:19] <nigelb> JFo should be able to comment on that though
[18:19] <paultag> JFo: Just put the old kernel note up, I'll set to confirmed
[18:19] <paultag> bug #610124
[18:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 610124 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel locks up with no feedback on initrd passoff (affects: 1) (heat: 493)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610124
[18:19] <JFo> excellent thanks
[18:19] <JFo> nigelb, all bugs go incomplete when we ask for information
[18:20] <nigelb> JFo: I know (Im bug control after all :D)
[18:20] <JFo> any info request is put to incomplete
[18:20] <JFo> nigelb, :P
[18:22] <vish> JFo: yeah , he is useful member in BC, kinda ;)
[18:22]  * vish looks at paultag  :D
[18:22] <JFo> heh
[18:22]  * paultag looks left, right
[18:22] <JFo> vish, I'm thankful for you too
[18:22] <JFo> as well as nigelb
[18:23] <paultag> vish: :)
[18:23]  * JFo hands out pats-on-the-back and attaboys
[18:23] <nigelb> hahah
[18:51] <JFo> akgraner, just sent you some e-mail
[18:52] <akgraner> got it...
[18:53] <akgraner> thanks +1 from me
[18:58] <czajkowski> its rather disturbing seeing comments in the Ustream channel for jono " Jono I wan to have your babies"
[19:00] <akgraner> czajkowski, that's tame
[19:00] <czajkowski> feckin' odd
[19:03] <highvoltage> czajkowski: it's probably a guy anyway
[19:03] <paultag> +1
[19:06]  * highvoltage listens in
[19:07] <czajkowski> team reports are on !
[19:07] <czajkowski> on his show!
[19:13] <sense> ah! just in time for Jono
[19:15] <highvoltage> there/win 29
[21:55] <cyphermox> paultag, re: your bug with booting your mini on lucid, maverick; I've seen the exact same message on a mini 500. usually removing 'quiet splash' makes it behave better, somehow. actually, even just a space in the cmdline may be enough
[21:55] <cyphermox> ^but it's still not 100% successful, more like 70-80%
[21:59] <paultag> cyphermox: I removed splash from it and tested, but never tried quiet
[21:59] <paultag> cyphermox: I'll test that through and post my results accross a few distros, thanks :)
[21:59] <cyphermox> well, if you get the PCI message, you're in verbose, though, no?
[21:59] <paultag> cyphermox: Yeah -- but I never tried killing quiet on Ubuntu, just Debian and Arch
[22:00] <paultag> cyphermox: FYI, an old kernel ( as I threw in the report ) works really well with my hardware
[22:00] <paultag> Not sure if you can do the same
[22:00] <paultag> cyphermox: It's a really flaky bug. I'm convinced it's a race condition
[22:01] <cyphermox> paultag, not unreasonable, given there is another thing b43 is supposed to do right after that IRQ part ;)
[22:01] <paultag> Ahha
[22:01] <cyphermox> (and b43 is buggy)
[22:02] <paultag> cyphermox: I'm thinking about getting the dsc / origs for the kernels, and doing a diff against them all to try and get it to about 10,000 lines or so of changes
[22:02] <paultag> And see if I can't work out where this is going on, really annoying
[22:03] <cyphermox> well, if you know which kernels worked during lucid development, and when it started to fail, roughly, then we can search for a commit upstream
[22:03] <paultag> cyphermox: aye, I've been testing different kernel versions to find the minior release number
[22:03] <paultag> cyphermox: I'm going to ( this weekend ) try out some mainline kernels and see if I can't track down when it went south
[22:04] <paultag> sudo apt-get install linux-image*
[22:04] <paultag> :P
[22:05] <sense> good night everyone!
[22:05] <paultag> night sense :)
[22:12] <paultag> cyphermox: got your mail. I'll post in thread
[22:12] <paultag> thanks :)
[22:12] <cyphermox> the what?
[22:12] <cyphermox> ah, the comment on your bug
[22:12] <paultag> Yup
[22:13] <cyphermox> paultag: if it helps your research: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=b43
[22:14] <paultag> cyphermox: Ah, killer! Thanks, yeah, there looks like a few bits of b43 work on there, time to start digging :)
[22:31] <czajkowski> jono: nice show
[22:43] <jono> thanks czajkowski!
[22:44] <czajkowski> you have mail, one that will make you smile
[22:46] <jono> czajkowski, nice!
[22:46] <jono> so sweet :)
[22:46] <czajkowski> I know
[22:46] <czajkowski> NEW TOYS!
[22:46] <czajkowski> <---- so easily pleased
[22:47] <czajkowski> jono: also asked the CC about their monthly reports, they now have an action item for it
[22:47] <czajkowski> :)
[22:47] <czajkowski> Subtle as a sack of potatoes
[22:47] <jono> nice!
[23:10] <czajkowski> nn folks
[23:10] <czajkowski> tis rather errie quiet in here
[23:10] <czajkowski> morning team is more fun :p