| hot_wheelz | hi guys even if you had an error say like a week ago it should still be in your logs when you pull the logs with log graber right? | 10:21 |
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| hot_wheelz | anyone? | 10:35 |
| hot_wheelz | can somone please check https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/567669 | 10:49 |
| Zinn | [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #567669 in Mythbuntu: “Irrecoverable recorder error” | 10:49 |
| hot_wheelz | Thanks | 10:49 |
| hot_wheelz | Zinn yes i posted my log file to help out | 10:50 |
| Zinn | Hi hot_wheelz, something I can help you with today? I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do. | 10:50 |
| hot_wheelz | !help | 10:50 |
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| hot_wheelz | tgm4883 are you there? | 10:58 |
| hot_wheelz | also what version of the Afatech | 11:02 |
| hot_wheelz | firmware | 11:02 |
| hot_wheelz | ships with 10.04? | 11:03 |
| hot_wheelz | by default | 11:03 |
| hot_wheelz | is it lower than 4.95.0 | 11:04 |
| dewman | rhpot1991, no update yet..... | 13:25 |
| rhpot1991 | dewman: you can apply it yourself | 14:32 |
| dewman | rhpot1991, yep.... just pulled the official release from google and just applied it. | 15:43 |
| extasy | anyone here? | 18:15 |
| rhpot1991 | !ask | extasy | 18:16 |
| Zinn | extasy: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question. Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it. IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer. | 18:16 |
| extasy | it had to do with an environment problem. | 18:18 |
| extasy | Using runtime prefix = /usr | 18:18 |
| extasy | Using configuration directory = /.mythtv | 18:18 |
| extasy | Cannot locate your home directory. Please set the environment variable HOME | 18:18 |
| extasy | even thou I start my mythtv with export HOME=/home/mythtv ; mythbackend -l /var/log/mythbackend.log -d | 18:19 |
| extasy | why is home varible not set in system itself? | 18:23 |
| superm1 | extasy, why aren't you using the upstart job? | 18:24 |
| superm1 | and you are missing the user parameter | 18:25 |
| extasy | I start my backend from script.. | 18:25 |
| extasy | what upstart job? | 18:26 |
| superm1 | /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf | 18:26 |
| superm1 | it comes in the backend package | 18:26 |
| superm1 | it should be able to manage the backend for you | 18:26 |
| superm1 | and restart it if it dies etc | 18:26 |
| extasy | should this conf be loaded by starting mythtvbackend without my help? | 18:27 |
| superm1 | it should be started automatically when you booted the system actually | 18:27 |
| superm1 | okay lets do this... start over from the beginning. | 18:27 |
| superm1 | what version of the OS | 18:28 |
| superm1 | what version of the packages | 18:28 |
| superm1 | and what problem pre-empted you to try to write a custom script to start the backend | 18:28 |
| extasy | I'm on 9.10 | 18:28 |
| superm1 | 9.10 mythbuntu, or 9.10 ubuntu | 18:28 |
| superm1 | and are you using autobuilds? | 18:29 |
| extasy | with | 18:29 |
| extasy | Please attach all output as a file in bug reports. | 18:29 |
| extasy | MythTV Version : 25496 | 18:29 |
| extasy | MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-23-fixes | 18:29 |
| extasy | Network Protocol : 23056 | 18:29 |
| superm1 | okay so yes, autobuilds | 18:29 |
| superm1 | so it should have installed an upstart job to /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf | 18:29 |
| superm1 | do you see that there? | 18:29 |
| extasy | yes I have it written by no less then you! :) | 18:29 |
| superm1 | :) | 18:29 |
| superm1 | okay, so make sure no backend is running first, and then try running "sudo start mythtv-backend" | 18:30 |
| superm1 | that should start the backend | 18:30 |
| superm1 | if it doesn't, then check /var/log/mythbackend.log and it should tell you exactly what went wrong.. | 18:30 |
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| extasy | superm1, when running the script nothing hapens | 18:36 |
| extasy | I killed the backend.. | 18:36 |
| extasy | I have the log in tail -f | 18:36 |
| extasy | no acction when doing a sudo start mythtv-backend | 18:36 |
| extasy | I get this message : mythtv-backend start/running, process 18418 | 18:37 |
| tgm4883 | that looks good? | 18:37 |
| tgm4883 | looks like it is running to me | 18:37 |
| extasy | but there is no process running on that number | 18:37 |
| tgm4883 | thats odd | 18:38 |
| extasy | /etc/init.d$ sudo kill -9 18418 | 18:38 |
| extasy | kill: No such process | 18:38 |
| tgm4883 | sudo stop mythtv-backend | 18:38 |
| extasy | sudo stop mythtv-backend | 18:38 |
| extasy | stop: Unknown instance: | 18:38 |
| tgm4883 | and doing a start again gives you the same message? | 18:39 |
| extasy | henrik@mythtv:/etc/init.d$ sudo start mythtv-backend | 18:39 |
| extasy | mythtv-backend start/running, process 18473 | 18:39 |
| extasy | ohh sorry | 18:40 |
| extasy | found it in another log file | 18:40 |
| extasy | 2010-08-04 19:39:14.506 Using runtime prefix = /usr | 18:40 |
| extasy | 2010-08-04 19:39:14.556 Using configuration directory = /.mythtv | 18:40 |
| extasy | 2010-08-04 19:39:14.606 Cannot locate your home directory. Please set the environment variable HOME | 18:40 |
| extasy | 2010-08-04 19:39:14.656 Failed to init MythContext, exiting. | 18:40 |
| extasy | that is why it's exeting.. | 18:40 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, where do we set HOME? | 18:41 |
| extasy | so I have been using the 'export HOME=/home/mythtv ; mythbackend -l /var/log/mythbackend.log -d' as startup | 18:41 |
| extasy | just to get the backend working | 18:41 |
| tgm4883 | extasy, pastebin the output of 'env' | 18:42 |
| superm1 | extasy, do you have an /etc/default/mythtv-backend file? | 18:42 |
| superm1 | if so, can you please rename it temporarily and try again? | 18:42 |
| extasy | I have renamed it.. | 18:42 |
| extasy | http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/X3B29JnK | 18:44 |
| extasy | should I try agan to start it? | 18:44 |
| superm1 | yes | 18:44 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, at the very least, shouldn't it be using /home/henrik as the base there? | 18:45 |
| superm1 | tgm4883, not when started from upstart i dont think | 18:45 |
| tgm4883 | ok, but he can't start it as his user either? | 18:45 |
| tgm4883 | from command line | 18:45 |
| superm1 | well he wasn't using the --user parameter | 18:45 |
| tgm4883 | so it doesn't default to the current user? | 18:46 |
| extasy | sudo start mythtv-backend | 18:46 |
| extasy | start: Job is already running: mythtv-backend | 18:46 |
| superm1 | well stop the job first, and then start it | 18:46 |
| tgm4883 | odd that it says that though. Shouldn't it try to restart itself? | 18:46 |
| rhpot1991 | make sure /etc/default/mythtv-backend doesn't exist before you start it | 18:47 |
| extasy | now it started :) | 18:47 |
| superm1 | so something in there was causing a mess | 18:47 |
| superm1 | what's it's contents? | 18:47 |
| extasy | let me pastebin it for you | 18:48 |
| extasy | or its a small file | 18:48 |
| extasy | # User as which to run | 18:48 |
| extasy | USER=mythtv | 18:48 |
| extasy | # Replace all arguments to mythtv-backend | 18:48 |
| extasy | ARGS="--logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log" | 18:48 |
| superm1 | ah ha | 18:49 |
| superm1 | the ARGS was missing --user | 18:49 |
| extasy | I have not changed these files.. | 18:49 |
| superm1 | fortunately, you can just remove that file and all will be well and good in the world again | 18:49 |
| extasy | should I in rc.local just write start mythtv-frontend? | 18:52 |
| extasy | not service etc etc? | 18:53 |
| extasy | like 'service start /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend' | 18:53 |
| extasy | superm1, do you have a good answere? | 18:55 |
| superm1 | extasy, are you using gnome or xfce? | 18:55 |
| extasy | xfce | 18:55 |
| superm1 | then if you go into mcc, you should be able to just check the start up automatically thing | 18:55 |
| superm1 | and it will do it for you | 18:55 |
| extasy | but I need it to be started in script.. I have other things started in sequal | 18:56 |
| superm1 | then set up a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart that starts a shell script to do it all sequentially | 18:56 |
| superm1 | what are the other things? | 18:56 |
| extasy | sasc | 18:57 |
| extasy | then it sleeps for 10 seconds | 18:57 |
| extasy | then it starts the backend | 18:57 |
| superm1 | !sasc-ng | 18:57 |
| Zinn | sasc-ng is a method to ILLEGALLY receive cable or satellite broadcasts via a fake software dvb-s/c device. It is forbidden from being discussed in #ubuntu-mythtv, #ubuntu-mythtv-dev, #mythtv-users, and #mythtv. If you would like to learn more about it, please refer to its developers and keep any and all discussions about it there. | 18:57 |
| superm1 | can't really help you much more in here | 18:57 |
| extasy | well I just want to know how to start mythbackend | 18:57 |
| extasy | from script | 18:57 |
| extasy | I am not about to discuss it.. | 18:58 |
| superm1 | considering that's what you're workign with, we can't really help you more in here | 18:58 |
| extasy | ju just asked me what I was starting before.. It has nothing to do with my question. | 18:58 |
| superm1 | we're not about enabling people to use it thought | 18:58 |
| superm1 | the developers for it should be able to help get you up and running if you want to go that route | 18:59 |
| extasy | my provider has no problem with it.. it's not wrong here.. | 18:59 |
| extasy | well I have no problem with it | 18:59 |
| extasy | I only have problem with getting enviroment working for backend | 18:59 |
| extasy | so starting your script from rc.local | 18:59 |
| extasy | lets keep it to that | 18:59 |
| superm1 | regardless what your provider see it as, you won't get any help from us for something related to it | 19:00 |
| superm1 | sorry | 19:00 |
| extasy | okej.. next question | 19:00 |
| extasy | since some time ago I lost alot of my pictures in video | 19:00 |
| extasy | looking at themovedb | 19:00 |
| extasy | they are all there.. | 19:00 |
| extasy | And the video plugin gets the right information about the movie the meta text | 19:01 |
| extasy | so I get the plot of the movie | 19:01 |
| extasy | but the pictures are not downloaded as front any more | 19:01 |
| extasy | it still works gr8 with tv epps but not with movies | 19:02 |
| kcormier | Hi all. Is anyone else having trouble accessing mythbuntu.org? | 19:36 |
| tgm4883 | kcormier, yep, thats not good. thanks for the warning | 19:38 |
| kcormier | well. I have a lot of other questions. but I was going to try and figure some of them out myself. Now you guys are my only resource, really not good. ;) | 19:39 |
| tgm4883 | there are the forums too | 19:40 |
| tgm4883 | but ask away | 19:40 |
| rhpot1991 | extasy: using storage groups? | 19:41 |
| rhpot1991 | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/08/how-do-you-get-movies-andor-music-into-your-home-theater.ars | 19:42 |
| Zinn | [arstechnica.com] How do you get movies and/or music into your home theater? | 19:42 |
| rhpot1991 | everyone go represent ^ | 19:42 |
| kcormier | mythbuntu.org is back | 19:47 |
| tgm4883 | kcormier, mythbuntu.org is back up | 19:47 |
| kcormier | lol | 19:47 |
| tgm4883 | yea we restarted the server | 19:47 |
| kcormier | I guess my biggest question is, how can i get involved in mythbuntu, and what kind of environment can I expect to be working in. I'm a talented enough developer and system/server admin. I am young though, wet behind the ears so to speak. More than anything I'm looking for a mentor. | 19:51 |
| rhpot1991 | kcormier: http://www.mythbuntu.org/gettinginvolved | 19:52 |
| rhpot1991 | lots of ways to contribute | 19:52 |
| tgm4883 | kcormier, great news. Join us in #ubuntu-mythtv-dev and check that site rhpot1991 linked | 19:53 |
| tgm4883 | while those pages are great, if you don't have a particular area of interest let me know what you are good at and I can give you stuff to work on | 19:54 |
| kcormier | thanks tgm. | 19:54 |
| rhpot1991 | kcormier: ok so you have a motorolloa dch 3200 | 21:33 |
| kcormier | yup | 21:33 |
| rhpot1991 | tune it to a local channel | 21:33 |
| kcormier | by local channel you mean? | 21:33 |
| rhpot1991 | ABC, NBC, Fox, something | 21:34 |
| rhpot1991 | they are less likely to be encrypted, so you want to test those first | 21:34 |
| rhpot1991 | after you do that, you are going to hit power then quickly hit ok/select and hold it | 21:35 |
| rhpot1991 | it should boot into a diagnosis screen (black and white) | 21:35 |
| kcormier | ok | 21:36 |
| rhpot1991 | now its gonna get rough cause I haven't been in here in a long time, can you list the menu choices? | 21:37 |
| kcormier | current channel status? | 21:38 |
| rhpot1991 | see whats in there, that might list the encryption | 21:39 |
| kcormier | cci: 0x00 | 21:39 |
| rhpot1991 | yes good | 21:39 |
| rhpot1991 | that means 5c is not on for this channel | 21:39 |
| rhpot1991 | currently at least | 21:40 |
| rhpot1991 | (more on that later) | 21:40 |
| kcormier | when i look at port status for 1394 it says "5c implementation: no" | 21:41 |
| kcormier | is that significant? | 21:41 |
| rhpot1991 | kcormier: surf around the menus and look for something that says either firewire: active or 1394 active | 21:41 |
| rhpot1991 | or maybe words about disabled or enabled | 21:41 |
| kcormier | active: yes, enabled: no | 21:41 |
| kcormier | sorry | 21:41 |
| kcormier | backwards | 21:41 |
| kcormier | enabled: yes, active: no | 21:41 |
| rhpot1991 | ok so it says 1394 is active? | 21:41 |
| rhpot1991 | err enabled | 21:42 |
| kcormier | confused us both. yes it is enabled | 21:42 |
| rhpot1991 | ok good | 21:42 |
| rhpot1991 | so now you can exit out of here | 21:42 |
| rhpot1991 | launch mythtv-setup from the menu | 21:43 |
| kcormier | ok. I don't have the cable box hooked up to my myth box yet. I'll have to order another cable box first. I just wanted to see if it was going to be worth it. | 21:43 |
| kcormier | If I could expect it to work correctly. | 21:44 |
| rhpot1991 | kcormier: well, thats a bit of a loaded question firewire isn't the most reliable option IMO | 21:44 |
| rhpot1991 | but it works sometimes, and can get channels that other tuners often can't | 21:45 |
| rhpot1991 | kcormier: I would try hooking it up and messing around with it | 21:45 |
| rhpot1991 | you can still use it for watching tv, just not both at the same time | 21:45 |
| rhpot1991 | the next 2 steps would be to set it up as a tuner in mythtv-setup | 21:46 |
| rhpot1991 | then after that you need to setup a primer, I'd recommend using: /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/user_jobs/firewire_primer.pl | 21:46 |
| kcormier | alright | 21:46 |
| kcormier | you said sometimes the firewire will get you channels that other methods won't. Why is that? | 21:46 |
| rhpot1991 | and then tell me I need to put that into the wiki | 21:47 |
| rhpot1991 | kcormier: well before we had tuners that could do component, firewire was the only way to record HD channels that weren't your locals | 21:47 |
| rhpot1991 | I hardly use my firewire anymore now that I have a HD-PVR 1212 though | 21:48 |
| rhpot1991 | I do use firewire for tuning channels, just not for recording, unless all my other tuners are used | 21:48 |
| kcormier | when you say tuning, you mean you use firewire to change channels rather than an ir blaster or something like that? | 21:49 |
| kcormier | but then use the hd tuner to record it (circumventing c5?) | 21:49 |
| rhpot1991 | yep | 21:56 |
| kcormier | have you ever heard of soc? | 22:05 |
| Gibby | my PS3 is recognizing my backend however it does not see any of the videos, I am able to stream them from a normal front end..... any help? | 22:25 |
| mrand | Gibby: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/438651#438651 | 22:40 |
| Zinn | [www.gossamer-threads.com] UPnP, ripped DVD's, and the PS3 | MythTV | Users | 22:40 |
| Gibby | mrand: thanks I will check it out in a few, filling a complaint against my ISP | 22:49 |
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