[10:21] hi guys even if you had an error say like a week ago it should still be in your logs when you pull the logs with log graber right? [10:35] anyone? [10:49] can somone please check https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/567669 [10:49] [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #567669 in Mythbuntu: “Irrecoverable recorder error” [10:49] Thanks [10:50] Zinn yes i posted my log file to help out [10:50] Hi hot_wheelz, something I can help you with today? I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do. [10:50] !help [10:50] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [10:58] tgm4883 are you there? [11:02] also what version of the Afatech [11:02] firmware [11:03] ships with 10.04? [11:03] by default [11:04] is it lower than 4.95.0 [13:25] rhpot1991, no update yet..... [14:32] dewman: you can apply it yourself [15:43] rhpot1991, yep.... just pulled the official release from google and just applied it. [18:15] anyone here? [18:16] !ask | extasy [18:16] extasy: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question. Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it. IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer. [18:18] it had to do with an environment problem. [18:18] Using runtime prefix = /usr [18:18] Using configuration directory = /.mythtv [18:18] Cannot locate your home directory. Please set the environment variable HOME [18:19] even thou I start my mythtv with export HOME=/home/mythtv ; mythbackend -l /var/log/mythbackend.log -d [18:23] why is home varible not set in system itself? [18:24] extasy, why aren't you using the upstart job? [18:25] and you are missing the user parameter [18:25] I start my backend from script.. [18:26] what upstart job? [18:26] /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf [18:26] it comes in the backend package [18:26] it should be able to manage the backend for you [18:26] and restart it if it dies etc [18:27] should this conf be loaded by starting mythtvbackend without my help? [18:27] it should be started automatically when you booted the system actually [18:27] okay lets do this... start over from the beginning. [18:28] what version of the OS [18:28] what version of the packages [18:28] and what problem pre-empted you to try to write a custom script to start the backend [18:28] I'm on 9.10 [18:28] 9.10 mythbuntu, or 9.10 ubuntu [18:29] and are you using autobuilds? [18:29] with [18:29] Please attach all output as a file in bug reports. [18:29] MythTV Version : 25496 [18:29] MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-23-fixes [18:29] Network Protocol : 23056 [18:29] okay so yes, autobuilds [18:29] so it should have installed an upstart job to /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf [18:29] do you see that there? [18:29] yes I have it written by no less then you! :) [18:29] :) [18:30] okay, so make sure no backend is running first, and then try running "sudo start mythtv-backend" [18:30] that should start the backend [18:30] if it doesn't, then check /var/log/mythbackend.log and it should tell you exactly what went wrong.. === tgm4883 is now known as marty_mcfly === marty_mcfly is now known as tgm4883 [18:36] superm1, when running the script nothing hapens [18:36] I killed the backend.. [18:36] I have the log in tail -f [18:36] no acction when doing a sudo start mythtv-backend [18:37] I get this message : mythtv-backend start/running, process 18418 [18:37] that looks good? [18:37] looks like it is running to me [18:37] but there is no process running on that number [18:38] thats odd [18:38] /etc/init.d$ sudo kill -9 18418 [18:38] kill: No such process [18:38] sudo stop mythtv-backend [18:38] sudo stop mythtv-backend [18:38] stop: Unknown instance: [18:39] and doing a start again gives you the same message? [18:39] henrik@mythtv:/etc/init.d$ sudo start mythtv-backend [18:39] mythtv-backend start/running, process 18473 [18:40] ohh sorry [18:40] found it in another log file [18:40] 2010-08-04 19:39:14.506 Using runtime prefix = /usr [18:40] 2010-08-04 19:39:14.556 Using configuration directory = /.mythtv [18:40] 2010-08-04 19:39:14.606 Cannot locate your home directory. Please set the environment variable HOME [18:40] 2010-08-04 19:39:14.656 Failed to init MythContext, exiting. [18:40] that is why it's exeting.. [18:41] superm1, where do we set HOME? [18:41] so I have been using the 'export HOME=/home/mythtv ; mythbackend -l /var/log/mythbackend.log -d' as startup [18:41] just to get the backend working [18:42] extasy, pastebin the output of 'env' [18:42] extasy, do you have an /etc/default/mythtv-backend file? [18:42] if so, can you please rename it temporarily and try again? [18:42] I have renamed it.. [18:44] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/X3B29JnK [18:44] should I try agan to start it? [18:44] yes [18:45] superm1, at the very least, shouldn't it be using /home/henrik as the base there? [18:45] tgm4883, not when started from upstart i dont think [18:45] ok, but he can't start it as his user either? [18:45] from command line [18:45] well he wasn't using the --user parameter [18:46] so it doesn't default to the current user? [18:46] sudo start mythtv-backend [18:46] start: Job is already running: mythtv-backend [18:46] well stop the job first, and then start it [18:46] odd that it says that though. Shouldn't it try to restart itself? [18:47] make sure /etc/default/mythtv-backend doesn't exist before you start it [18:47] now it started :) [18:47] so something in there was causing a mess [18:47] what's it's contents? [18:48] let me pastebin it for you [18:48] or its a small file [18:48] # User as which to run [18:48] USER=mythtv [18:48] # Replace all arguments to mythtv-backend [18:48] ARGS="--logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log" [18:49] ah ha [18:49] the ARGS was missing --user [18:49] I have not changed these files.. [18:49] fortunately, you can just remove that file and all will be well and good in the world again [18:52] should I in rc.local just write start mythtv-frontend? [18:53] not service etc etc? [18:53] like 'service start /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend' [18:55] superm1, do you have a good answere? [18:55] extasy, are you using gnome or xfce? [18:55] xfce [18:55] then if you go into mcc, you should be able to just check the start up automatically thing [18:55] and it will do it for you [18:56] but I need it to be started in script.. I have other things started in sequal [18:56] then set up a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart that starts a shell script to do it all sequentially [18:56] what are the other things? [18:57] sasc [18:57] then it sleeps for 10 seconds [18:57] then it starts the backend [18:57] !sasc-ng [18:57] sasc-ng is a method to ILLEGALLY receive cable or satellite broadcasts via a fake software dvb-s/c device. It is forbidden from being discussed in #ubuntu-mythtv, #ubuntu-mythtv-dev, #mythtv-users, and #mythtv. If you would like to learn more about it, please refer to its developers and keep any and all discussions about it there. [18:57] can't really help you much more in here [18:57] well I just want to know how to start mythbackend [18:57] from script [18:58] I am not about to discuss it.. [18:58] considering that's what you're workign with, we can't really help you more in here [18:58] ju just asked me what I was starting before.. It has nothing to do with my question. [18:58] we're not about enabling people to use it thought [18:59] the developers for it should be able to help get you up and running if you want to go that route [18:59] my provider has no problem with it.. it's not wrong here.. [18:59] well I have no problem with it [18:59] I only have problem with getting enviroment working for backend [18:59] so starting your script from rc.local [18:59] lets keep it to that [19:00] regardless what your provider see it as, you won't get any help from us for something related to it [19:00] sorry [19:00] okej.. next question [19:00] since some time ago I lost alot of my pictures in video [19:00] looking at themovedb [19:00] they are all there.. [19:01] And the video plugin gets the right information about the movie the meta text [19:01] so I get the plot of the movie [19:01] but the pictures are not downloaded as front any more [19:02] it still works gr8 with tv epps but not with movies [19:36] Hi all. Is anyone else having trouble accessing mythbuntu.org? [19:38] kcormier, yep, thats not good. thanks for the warning [19:39] well. I have a lot of other questions. but I was going to try and figure some of them out myself. Now you guys are my only resource, really not good. ;) [19:40] there are the forums too [19:40] but ask away [19:41] extasy: using storage groups? [19:42] http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/08/how-do-you-get-movies-andor-music-into-your-home-theater.ars [19:42] [arstechnica.com] How do you get movies and/or music into your home theater? [19:42] everyone go represent ^ [19:47] mythbuntu.org is back [19:47] kcormier, mythbuntu.org is back up [19:47] lol [19:47] yea we restarted the server [19:51] I guess my biggest question is, how can i get involved in mythbuntu, and what kind of environment can I expect to be working in. I'm a talented enough developer and system/server admin. I am young though, wet behind the ears so to speak. More than anything I'm looking for a mentor. [19:52] kcormier: http://www.mythbuntu.org/gettinginvolved [19:52] lots of ways to contribute [19:53] kcormier, great news. Join us in #ubuntu-mythtv-dev and check that site rhpot1991 linked [19:54] while those pages are great, if you don't have a particular area of interest let me know what you are good at and I can give you stuff to work on [19:54] thanks tgm. [21:33] kcormier: ok so you have a motorolloa dch 3200 [21:33] yup [21:33] tune it to a local channel [21:33] by local channel you mean? [21:34] ABC, NBC, Fox, something [21:34] they are less likely to be encrypted, so you want to test those first [21:35] after you do that, you are going to hit power then quickly hit ok/select and hold it [21:35] it should boot into a diagnosis screen (black and white) [21:36] ok [21:37] now its gonna get rough cause I haven't been in here in a long time, can you list the menu choices? [21:38] current channel status? [21:39] see whats in there, that might list the encryption [21:39] cci: 0x00 [21:39] yes good [21:39] that means 5c is not on for this channel [21:40] currently at least [21:40] (more on that later) [21:41] when i look at port status for 1394 it says "5c implementation: no" [21:41] is that significant? [21:41] kcormier: surf around the menus and look for something that says either firewire: active or 1394 active [21:41] or maybe words about disabled or enabled [21:41] active: yes, enabled: no [21:41] sorry [21:41] backwards [21:41] enabled: yes, active: no [21:41] ok so it says 1394 is active? [21:42] err enabled [21:42] confused us both. yes it is enabled [21:42] ok good [21:42] so now you can exit out of here [21:43] launch mythtv-setup from the menu [21:43] ok. I don't have the cable box hooked up to my myth box yet. I'll have to order another cable box first. I just wanted to see if it was going to be worth it. [21:44] If I could expect it to work correctly. [21:44] kcormier: well, thats a bit of a loaded question firewire isn't the most reliable option IMO [21:45] but it works sometimes, and can get channels that other tuners often can't [21:45] kcormier: I would try hooking it up and messing around with it [21:45] you can still use it for watching tv, just not both at the same time [21:46] the next 2 steps would be to set it up as a tuner in mythtv-setup [21:46] then after that you need to setup a primer, I'd recommend using: /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/user_jobs/firewire_primer.pl [21:46] alright [21:46] you said sometimes the firewire will get you channels that other methods won't. Why is that? [21:47] and then tell me I need to put that into the wiki [21:47] kcormier: well before we had tuners that could do component, firewire was the only way to record HD channels that weren't your locals [21:48] I hardly use my firewire anymore now that I have a HD-PVR 1212 though [21:48] I do use firewire for tuning channels, just not for recording, unless all my other tuners are used [21:49] when you say tuning, you mean you use firewire to change channels rather than an ir blaster or something like that? [21:49] but then use the hd tuner to record it (circumventing c5?) [21:56] yep [22:05] have you ever heard of soc? [22:25] my PS3 is recognizing my backend however it does not see any of the videos, I am able to stream them from a normal front end..... any help? [22:40] Gibby: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/438651#438651 [22:40] [www.gossamer-threads.com] UPnP, ripped DVD's, and the PS3 | MythTV | Users [22:49] mrand: thanks I will check it out in a few, filling a complaint against my ISP