=== mrjazzcat is now known as mrjazzcat-afk [00:42] :S [00:42] is kill built into the kernel? [00:42] it can't be.. but I can't figure out how the command is available in my chroot [00:43] MTecknology: procps [00:44] jpds: thanks [00:59] thesheff17: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jailkit/+archive/ppa/+builds?build_state=pending [01:00] thesheff17: it progressed to the next step... already.... [01:00] MTecknology: nice [01:01] MTecknology: I'm really new to the launch pad stuff...how did you get that in there? or can you link me to how to? [01:03] thesheff17: made a team, project, registered an upstream import, created a recipe, told the recipe to build [01:04] thesheff17: kind of a lot of stuff - you'd want to start with building your own packages in your own ppa - #ubuntu-packaging can help with that [01:04] MTecknology: ok cool...I will have to take a look thx [01:05] thesheff17: if the package works nice and perfect - I'll look into getting it into debian/ubuntu [01:06] MTecknology: excellent I think a chroot implementation through apt-get would be excellent. [01:07] thesheff17: this thing is already amazingly easy.. my how to is going to make it even easier :) [01:07] MTecknology: nice [01:07] thesheff17: I'll add two things that were missing and expand. I feel like I have a clue now. :) [01:08] I'm going to start on homework thouhg. :'( [01:08] This'll be the worst 5 hours of the day [01:08] probably longer actually [01:08] MTecknology: yea I'm in class right now :( [01:08] :P [01:08] paying attention I see [01:08] MTecknology: hehe yea [01:08] thesheff17: thanks again - I'll ping you when I get somewhere [01:09] * MTecknology runs off now.. [01:09] MTecknology: np ttyl [01:09] ttyl === bastidra1or is now known as bastid_raZor === _Techie_ is now known as _Techie_|_Away_ [01:34] iwconfig === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk === _Techie_|_Away_ is now known as _Techie_ === _Techie_|_Away_ is now known as _Techie_ [02:58] hi there, somebody know how to stop tcpdump automatically? when i do crl -c it stop but the process still appear in the system [03:02] Roxyhart0: can you get it's pid and `kill -9` it? [03:29] yes, but is not the idea as when i try then to merge files that i got with tcpdump give me errors as the file was cut [03:30] Roxyhart0: tcpdump is staying open? [03:31] when i do crt C, still is running... [03:31] i woudl like to stop with some condition [03:31] Roxyhart0: are you giving it an option to run in the background at all [03:33] no, i just do tcpdump -i van2 scr portrange 2000 -65535 [03:35] you have an interface named van2? [03:35] yes [03:35] it is running ok [03:38] Roxyhart0: interesting so when you run that and you hit ctrl c it continues to run === _Techie_ is now known as _Techie_|_Away_ [03:39] yes [03:39] Roxyhart0: how are you checking for it? ps aux | grep tcpdump [03:39] i do ps -fea |grep tcpdump and still ahow me the pdid [03:40] ahh [03:40] do a ps aux | grep tcpdump [03:41] i did and still shows me the pdid from tcpdump [03:41] is it there? [03:41] yes [03:41] pastebin the output to me [03:43] ps aux | grep tcpdump | grep -v grep [03:43] youre not seeing the grep output and thinking its tcpdump are you [03:44] i know was i did wrong i did cr z and not cr c, but still i would like to stop it automatically as i am running the comand with cron each 5 minutes for 1 minute [03:44] and i just can stp with killall -9 tcpdump [03:45] yeah ctrl z will let you type bg to background it [03:46] or fg to forground it [03:47] tcpdump -G will let you rotate files [03:49] i tried to use that, i will check a little bit more [03:49] thanks [03:49] Roxyhart0: if not the best bet it to run it from a script that will run it record the pid and kill it after a min [03:49] easiest way [03:50] yes, i did it [03:51] okay sweet [03:56] thanks :) [03:58] If i wanted to setup up central authentication for a small company network from scratch, which way should I go, openldap, samba, kerberos, or samba 4 ? === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [04:24] Daviey, i dont see a eucalyptus release or build, were you still expecting one ? [04:39] How can I chain SSH logins? Like.. ssh user1@domain1.com ssh user2@domain2.com [04:39] I do it - but then I can't type anything [04:39] I can see I get logged in through the chain === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [04:42] heh.. got it [04:50] MTecknology, what did you find ? [04:50] you can do it 2 ways. [04:51] robably by forcing the terminal on the first 'ssh -t user1@domain1.com ssh user2@domain2.com' [04:51] smoser: -t is what I found [04:51] smoser: is there something better? [04:51] probably [04:51] hold on [04:52] in .ssh/config [04:52] Host domain2.com [04:52] ProxyCommand ssh user1@domain1.com nc -q0 %h %p [04:53] that Proxies you through the domain1 to get to domain2 [04:54] cool [04:54] .ssh/config has a lot of little gems, huh? [04:54] I am having a problem configuring my interfaces, i have a block of static ip's and 2 netowrk cards in my server. one has a internal ip in the 192.168.2. subnet and the other is in my public pool of addresses. the problem is i cannot access my interface with the public ip outside of my local network. any ideas ? === _Techie_|_Away_ is now known as _Techie_ [05:04] taget: sounds like a route problem [05:04] thats kind of what i thought also, but i am unsure of how to fix it [05:04] taget: can you server ping the outside? === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [05:05] taget: you can adjust your route by doing "route del default gw x.x.x.x" and "route add default gw x.x.x.x" [05:06] taget: first get your box to reach the internet. [05:06] taget: and the private network shouldn't have any routes. [05:06] found TraceEnable Off in security.dpkg-dist but I think TRACE is still enabled [05:07] sorry, i was disconnected [05:07] i can ping the outside, but i hace not tried disabling the internal network interface [05:08] taget: you shouldn't have to disable the private network interface [05:08] how can i be sure i am accessing outside of my network with the correct interface ? [05:09] taget: as root type route and is that IP in the same subnet as the public network? [05:10] thesheff17: the first destination is in the correct subnet, but the gateway is an * [05:11] after the first entry i have a 192.168.2.0 dest to * entry and a default to 192.168.2.10 entry [05:12] taget: can you paste all the output to pastebin [05:12] sure [05:14] http://pastebin.com/WFaU1V6v [05:14] thesheff17: oh ya.. it built - https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jailkit/+archive/ppa [05:14] MTecknology: nice [05:14] taget: so this is the private network? 192.168.2.100 [05:15] correct [05:15] taget: your route should be something on the public side. [05:15] taget: which is the last entry [05:16] thats kind of what i was thinking but i am unsure of how to change it [05:16] taget: /etc/network/interfaces controls your interfaces [05:17] yup [05:17] but just adding the interface will not adjust the routing, correct ? [05:17] taget: correct [05:17] taget: I will pastebin my dual network /etc/network/interface [05:18] i have eth0 configured for static with all of the correct info [05:18] ty [05:20] http://pastebin.com/Vp2BekR9 [05:20] taget: so all you should need for the private network is ip and subnet [05:24] taget: and when you type route the only entry in gateway should be the IP of your public gateway. [05:24] thanks for the help, i will make some corrections and try it. i am looking at my interfaces file right now and for some reason while using nano it removed all the text that wasnt currently in view of the terminal [05:25] and one of the lines it cut out was the gateway [05:26] taget: yea be careful if you only have remote access. also vim is a great text editor [05:27] that is what i have heard, i just have never taken the time to learn how to use it. also the server is only 15 minutes away from my home :) [05:27] so i ma fortunate in this case [05:31] taget: cool yea most of the machines I manage are hours away if not states away :) [05:34] thesheff17: i hear you on that, i am fortunate in this case, id hate to have to jump in the car to go and reset a server in this instance. [05:36] On another topic, i am looking for a solution for a web based file access with a nice login and ui for downloading and uploading files to a server. (family file server) [05:36] any ideas ? [05:37] taget: what I do is create a cronjob that runs every hour and restores the original network config regardless of what I do.....so if and when I do break it I know within the hour it will be fixed. Just remember though when the hour comes around your config file will change regardless of what you do. [05:37] taget: I would use apache with php [05:38] thesheff17: good idea. [05:40] taget: apache can easily do https/login/download... php is good for uploads and moving the files around where you want them.....though there is a couple of places to adjust php in order to upload big files but it is well documented. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [05:40] MTecknology: so that built package is that a manually approved process or is that automatic? [05:41] thesheff17: i will look into that in the morning. thank you for the help [05:41] taget: no problem I should be around if you need more help [05:42] somebody know any good solution to block P2P traffic? [05:42] Roxyhart0: I have create a linux based router and then you can forward all the traffic through that box and filter what you want and don't want. [05:43] thesheff17: that's just a normal build. It could keep building there forever and never make it into ubuntu. There's a couple different processes that you need to go through to get it included [05:45] thesheff17, do you post that solution in somewhere? [05:45] did [05:45] Roxyhart0: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml this one is based on iptables that I have used and you have to adjust for ubuntu but it is pretty straight forward [05:46] thanks a lot [05:46] Roxyhart0: np [05:47] Roxyhart0: you don't have to anything with the kernel...that is all built into ubuntu [05:47] ok, thanks ..i will have a look [05:50] Roxyhart0: I actually just let all the traffic through on the router and then install a monitoring tool on the private interface to see what clowns where using P2P stuff...because sometimes I would use bittorent stuff to download ISO and other important data. [05:52] MTecknology: well I hope it makes it into universe...but I can tell you I have no clue how all this works :) [05:52] thesheff17: me either :P [05:52] thesheff17: I think only about 1 or 2 actually do :P (or a few more-but it's not a lot that really understand it all) [05:53] thesheff17: 1) if it gets into debian, it'll be in ubuntu 2) if not, then you need to get it into ubuntu directy 3) sometimes debian realizes it's good and then brings it in [05:54] MTecknology: ah ok [05:54] thesheff17: all three ways are a different process and have pros/cons [05:55] thesheff17: I'm actually considering just helping the developer get it into debian - they're so close to being able to do it easily [05:56] thesheff17: for now.. You can install from that PPA I linked you to [05:56] MTecknology: excellent yea I feel like I haven't contributed much to ubuntu yet...hopefully that will change :) [05:57] thesheff17: I feel the same :P [05:59] thesheff17: You offer support in here which already helps a lot. You could also check out https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu (and also https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad - a lot get incorrectly put here) [06:00] MTecknology: I haven't been in a irc chat room since the early 90's of the aol days for who knows what. Its great to be back. I also feel like the forums for ubuntu aren't great...most of the questions go un answered which is disappointing. When I was big into gentoo (before I found ubuntu) I would answer as much as I could on the forums. [06:01] MTecknology: it could though just be the sheer volume of ubuntu users vs gentoo users. [06:02] thesheff17: it is indeed. Ubuntu is geared toward easing the enterance barrier where Gentoo is absolutely not out to do that. [06:03] MTecknology: haha I know...gentoo was the first linux distro I found and I thought all linux distos where like that :) how wrong I was. [06:05] thesheff17: Ubuntu and Fedora are usually the first distros a person tries. That comes with "Where did my Start button go?" and "Where is my Outlooks?" which are so obviou to us, but not someone who's never tried something different. (I hate the pluraization of outlook) I don't think it's possible to eliminate most of the support without looking and acting exactly like windows. Problem is that the efforts to do that wound [06:06] thesheff17: #ubuntu, #ubuntu-server, answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu, and ubuntuforums.com and the bestest best places to help new users. [06:07] thesheff17: You helped me out a massive amount today. Where did that go? The tool you showed me to may now wind up in the repositories. :D [06:07] today and yesterday* [06:08] MTecknology: yea I have no problem helping as much as I can...because I wouldn't know anything without the help of everyone else....I never touched a linux machine in college and I graduated with a comp sci degree which is sad [06:08] thesheff17: oh.. and if you really want to get ambitious... https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+questions?field.search_text=&field.sort=RELEVANCY&field.sort-empty-marker=1&field.actions.search=Search&field.language=en&field.language-empty-marker=1&field.status=OPEN&field.status-empty-marker=1 [06:08] hi thesheff17, sorry my question i did capture package with tcpdump and then analyze with wireshark and i got some pakages that are recognized by wireshark as bittorrent, but the port that shows me for that oacjages are > 50000 usually, and the rule that your shows me iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 6881:6889 -i ${WAN} -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.2 [06:09] the port say 6881:6889, maybe i am confuse? [06:09] thesheff17: that's about how my university is. <20 people actually understand linux at any depth in the entire university including both faculty and students [06:10] Roxyhart0: all ports over 1024 are unprivileged ports and P2P can run on all of them...so only enable what you want. [06:10] Roxyhart0: I think :) [06:11] yes, i think so...just was confuse with the rule that said for bittorent, why say port 6881:6889 [06:11] Roxyhart0: prob just what is standard but feel free to adjust. [06:16] ok, thanks a lot! [06:17] do you know ipp2p? [06:17] im wondering how as good it is? [06:18] Roxyhart0: I do not...reading a little about it now [06:23] Roxyhart0: sounds like that is still under massive development and has moved to http://www.ipp2p.org/ [06:24] so, still wait to use it [06:26] Roxyhart0: well I would just do extensive testing before moving into production where ever you are using it. Though that is pretty much anything I use on linux :) [06:26] thanks :) [06:37] ttx: Don't suppose you are around yet? :) [07:02] Roxyhart0: with my experience with ipp2p is that you just can't keep up with the tricks p2p software will throw at you [07:03] Roxyhart0: instead, go about it another way: use HTB+SFQ to throttle subscribers (tc) and keep track of heavy abusers by logging b/w per IP in some way. if someone is downloading (anything really) too much, blast them @ tc [07:04] Roxyhart0: p2p software, or any software for that matter, can't download through a pipe bigger than the one you give it, so its most reliable to manage your problem that way [07:13] Daviey: I'm here [07:35] sorry drw200169, i was away ...im interested in your sugestion, do you know some page how to? [07:53] does anyone know if its possible to │ [07:53] | connect to an ssl vpn on a headless │ [07:53] Does anyone know if it is possible to connect to a ssl vpn on a headless linux box? [08:01] * Roxyhart0 slaps Roxyhart0 around a bit with a large trout [08:02] Roxyhart0: haha, i'm looking for something for you;) [08:05] Roxyhart0: see, the problem with doing traffic shaping, is that there is no easy way to do it [08:07] Roxyhart0: i ran into the same problem(s) with p2p traffic in the past, and ended up using traffic shaping to do all my dirty work [08:16] Roxyhart0: you may be interested in reading http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/project/htbinit/HTB.init/0.8.5/htb.init-v0.8.5 , the man pages for tc, tc-tbf, tc-htb, tc-sfq, and of course the manual on http://lartc.org [08:18] Roxyhart0: note, also, that iptables and tc can work together using fw marks (which means tc filtering can be endless ...) === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen [08:41] somebdy know how i can copy from a server to another files and folder preservating permisions? [08:42] <\sh> rsync with preserve permissions [08:42] do i need to install that tool? [08:42] <\sh> if it's not already installed, then yes [08:43] thanks a lot [08:47] xserver on windows machine, or rdp server on the linux server? [08:56] thanks a lot sh..it work perfect.. [08:58] * cwillu_at_work feels an urge to introduce sh to \sh, and watch the fireworks fly [08:58] -> #lesswrong :) [08:59] although he doesn't seem to be around at the moment :/ [09:06] morning [09:49] Hi. Is there a difference between doing "ifconfig ... up" in /etc/rc.local, and having "auto eth0..." in /etc/network/interfaces? [09:51] <\sh> cwillu_at_work: hmm? [10:01] StefanMonov: Yes. [10:02] StefanMonov: Numerous differences. [10:09] \sh, other sh [10:12] <_ruben> ifconfig .. yuck [10:14] supposedly-final Maverick alpha3 server ISO candidates posted at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all [10:14] let's test the heck out of them ! [10:21] * Daviey grabs his heck removal tool. [10:22] ttx: do you have a netboot environment too (pxe stuff), then I might try them. [10:23] I have a few lucid annoyances that I wouldn't mind testing to see if they are gone [10:23] We have some netboot tests in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all [10:24] they are not that well documented though [10:24] ah, excellent. let me see if I can get the time this afternoon to do an intsall test, or not. [10:25] maswan: We are all very keen to get PXE booting solid, so if there are some quirks you have discovered - do please raise them :) [10:26] <\sh> hmm...why don't we install ifenslave-2.6 during server install? bonding is not that uncommon for servers... [10:29] \sh: I think we'd need to drop something else to get that on there.. but you could raise a blueprint for maverick+1, "Making bonding rock" meaning it's at least proposed for discussion. [10:29] the most annoying lucid (and karmic before that) bug for intsalling for me is certainly 415353/571872. [10:29] <\sh> bug #415353 [10:29] Launchpad bug 415353 in linux "karmic installation slow on "detecting network hardware" with bnx2x" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415353 [10:29] bug #415353 [10:30] hah, \sh you are as lazy as me :) [10:30] <\sh> bug #571872 [10:30] Launchpad bug 571872 in debian-installer "bnx2x drivers take 100 seconds to initialize" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571872 [10:30] <\sh> Daviey: I'm sysadmin, I have to be lazy ;) [10:30] It makes install's "detecting network hardware" step for me take ~20 minutes. [10:31] \sh: http://twitter.com/Daviey/status/15926972131 [10:31] <\sh> maswan: these are not those new HP Flex10 NICs for the new blade server series? [10:31] \sh: uip [10:31] yup even [10:31] <\sh> maswan: oh shit [10:32] \sh: booting them when installed isn't that bad, but the installer part is rather annoying. [10:32] Hmm [10:32] anyway, I was going to relocate myself. bbiab. [10:33] <\sh> maswan: also during PXE boot and nfs root mounts? I mean, ipconfig inside initramfs is hell alone... [10:33] \sh: dunno, haven't tried that. but it takes a couple of minutes to get the interfaces up during a normal boot. [10:34] (after the console gets to the login: prompt you have a minute or two before networking) [10:34] ugh, really should run, back in 30 [10:36] <\sh> maswan: lovely...that sounds like fun for me during the next couple of months of HW testing [10:41] Daviey: starting a UEC/amd64/topo1 test [10:42] ttx: Same here.. having to use a CD-R - as my usual pendrive for this is U/S [11:00] Daviey: arh, its broken [11:01] tgt deps not on CD [11:06] ISO testing news: looks like we'll have to respin again [11:08] ETA for new spin is ~2 hours [11:10] \sh: yup. it's "slightly" annoying when you run into disk numbering issues and grubs that fail to boot, which you "just" need to boot a rescue environment to fix. [11:34] Hi. I'm porting my mailserver from centos to ubuntu server, but one of my scripts use 'passwd --stdin' functionality which ubuntu's passwd command doesn't have. Is there any alternatives? / A way to get the same passwd functionality? [11:36] psteyn: Ehm, usermod, IIRC [11:37] ahh [11:37] But that only takes the crypted user [11:37] But that only takes the crypted password [11:37] Just a sec, I should have it somewhere [11:38] I only have versions where a crypted password is used [11:39] chpasswd worked for older Ubuntu's [11:39] usermod -p is needed for > karmic [11:45] I see, how would I encrypt the password? I tried with mcrypt..but it doesn't seem right. [11:49] nm [11:49] usermod -p `mkpasswd -H md5 newpass` username [11:49] :") [11:50] :) [11:53] err! [11:56] Hmm.. i had a script for just that purpose.. just looked it up.. and it's not as clean as i had hoped either :) [11:56] http://pb.daviey.com/JvD4/ [11:58] Daviey: That looks like a wrapper around passwd, what's the use? [12:01] Jeeves_: being able to set the passwd from a script === _Techie_ is now known as _Techie_|_Away_ [12:05] Hm. Maverick looks much better, only 5 seconds per interface. Still takes a bit over a minute for the installer to cycle through them all, but much better. [12:07] maswan: The installer? [12:07] maswan: Can you mention that on the bug report please? [12:07] Yeah, I am going to [12:08] I'm just busy runnign through a full install first. The boot screen was weird, I had to hit F1 for help before I could hit enter to boot the installer, and there were no "Advanced" choices either [12:09] hmm.. interesting [12:11] Yeah, I was wondering if I had messed up my download of the ubuntu-installer directory, but I could hit F1 for the normal help and then enter to install from that screen.. [12:13] \sh: so, good news, assuming you're planning on running the maverick instead of the lts. ;) [12:14] oh, wait, my mistake [12:14] I had messed up, the wrong pxelinux.cfg file. [12:19] hello [12:19] is there a way to force postfix to use only TLS in his communications ? [12:41] ETA for new Maverick Alpha3 ISO candidates for server: 30min [12:52] New bug: #613414 in dhcp3 (main) "package dhcp3-server 3.1.3-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613414 === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann-away [12:58] <\sh> maswan: no...it has to be lucid for the next 2 years until next LTS release ;) === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [13:08] ttx: goody i can slack off then :) [13:09] zul: for 5 more minutes :) [13:13] Hm. Is there a reason why vmbuilder wgets files one by one instead of grabbing a big set of them at once? The second is much likely to get large tcp windows and throughput... [13:18] ISO testing update: supposedly-final Alpha3 candidates posted on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all [13:18] let's get crackin === RoyK^ is now known as RoyK [14:03] Daviey: about the registration failure [14:03] you reported one test ok and one test failing [14:03] ttx: Reproducing here [14:03] was it under the same conditions ? [14:03] identical. [14:03] or one was netbootpreseeded and one was ISo ? [14:04] it's quite steadily failing now [14:04] so I wonder if there is not something else taht regressed [14:05] hmm [14:06] the web UI says it's already registered [14:07] Daviey: then I deregister them in the web UI and restart... [14:07] and now it says it's already registered in the euca_conf calls [14:07] * ttx sighs [14:08] ttx, oh joy [14:08] * ttx logs in again on the web UI for fun [14:08] and sure, it's registered again [14:10] Daviey: so actually it looks like though there are errors in registration.log, the registration succeeds [14:11] ... as long as you log in on the web UI ? [14:11] * ttx tries to make some sense out of that [14:12] heh [14:12] Daviey: could you try adding a node ? [14:13] * ttx will restart to test [14:13] reinstall [14:13] * Daviey notes that CD's are much slower than USB sticks. [14:16] how do I prevent a process such as apache or mysql from starting next time I reboot my computer? [14:17] anyone have experience with DoS on ubuntu server? === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk [14:20] ttx, Daviey: so auto-registration is failing? It failed on my all-in-one install [14:21] hggdh, Will confirm in a few mins my results [14:21] hggdh: well "failing" might not be the right word [14:21] hggdh: euca_conf seems completely borked and reports crap [14:21] and since we trust it to assess success/failure... [14:22] ttx, Have you succeed in registering an image before there is an NC avaliable? [14:22] I did nothing and it fell into place [14:22] Daviey: hav,'t tried [14:22] oh joy, joy, joy [14:23] unfortunately I'm completely useless due to major headache today [14:23] http://pb.daviey.com/7B0J/raw/ [14:23] I had that yesterday aswell.. but it fixed itself [14:23] ttx: in my case it actually failed to register on install (registration.log shows the failure). manually --register-* succeeded [14:23] weirdest thing is the SCS *did* get registered, even without a cluster [14:24] of course, it was not reported registered until I registered the cluster [14:24] I'm thinking it's pot luck, at the time you fire the command :( [14:24] hggdh: in my case registration.log shows a failure, euca_conf says "can't register, login on web UI, web UI says "it's registered" [14:24] oh different [14:25] Daviey: pot luck, with replacements, and many options [14:25] I'm not that sure. If you consider euca_conf reports incorrectly success/failure, it makes (some) sense [14:25] I agree we cannot trust euca_conf right now, but the registration log *does* show the failure [14:25] oh [14:25] if the reg.log maintained by euca_conf? [14:25] hggdh: I'm starting to suspect it actually registers, despite registration.log showing failure [14:26] ttx: ack [14:26] no, it's maintained by the uec-component-listener scripts [14:26] it just reports the return code of euca_conf [14:26] yeah, so it is unreliable as well [14:29] hggdh, I'm sure we'll get a fix :) [14:30] hggdh: apparently "registered" means different things to different pieces of the eucalyptus puzzle [14:30] Daviey: yes. Pigs *do* fly, only catch is when they land [14:30] the UI says "yes", euca_conf says "screw you" [14:30] heh [14:30] ttx, On your NC install... did you get grub asking you to check the "Linux command line" it apparently extracted from /etc/default/grub? [14:31] entry = blank [14:31] haven't installed NC yet, reinstalling all-in-one [14:31] Daviey: on install? [14:32] hggdh, yes, from the iso span today [14:32] (not preseeded) [14:32] starting one right now [14:32] will look at the serial cons of all NCs [14:32] hggdh, during debian-installer [14:33] This registering an image is interesting... [14:34] and then... registration works [14:34] ... [14:34] it's one of those days I should really consider working from hoime shouldn't prevent me from calling sick [14:35] ttx, ping. [14:35] weird. I am opening a console on all, all all show me at a d-i screen "Configuring grub-pc" [14:35] so you want some little blurb about kernel upgrades ? [14:35] ttx, Agreed - me and hggdh can keep cracking on. "Go Home" :) [14:35] hggdh, Daviey: so the workaround seems to be: keep trying [14:35] exactly! [14:35] smoser: can be done tomorrow [14:36] ... I think [14:36] ... I hope [14:36] dammit.. i intended to make the registration.log more useful in the last upload [14:36] ttx, well, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/ami-pages/annotate/head%3A/maverick-i386.body.html [14:36] hggdh: so the onoly thing I did differently this time was to login immediately and keep doing netstat -tl to check services going up [14:36] has something (See 'Changelog') [14:37] Daviey, so what is up with grub causing problems ? [14:37] maybe it slowed down the stuff sufficiently to win whatever race [14:37] i'm thinking this is likely related to my addition of dependencies in eucalyptus-nc [14:37] ttx: I had a similar thingy yesterday -- of the 6 installs I did, 4 worked OK, two failed to register [14:38] hggdh: did they actually not work ? Or you supposed they were broken by looking at euca_conf output and ergistration.log ? [14:38] I trashed all my NCs installs, and I am reinstalling & monitoring the serial console. All of them got stuck in d-i on grub [14:38] smoser, not entirely sure.. doing a fresh install to check [14:38] smoser, certainly *not* the changes you introduced.. So don't worry [14:39] ok. [14:39] * ttx wonders if everything does not come from the new "I need walrus up first" type of constraints [14:39] hggdh, Oh good.. it's not only me [14:39] * ttx finishes his test and preps a long pause [14:40] I think grub is poorly. :( [14:40] ttx: they all worked after *manually* registering the cc, walrus, and sc [14:40] hggdh: but not before ? [14:41] smoser, Actually.. i take that back.. it could be the depends change.. i was thinking in code changes. [14:41] ttx: but not before (these two I pointed as failing) [14:41] the other fours worked perfectly with auto-reg [14:43] samba isn't in my /etc/init.d .. i selected to install samba from the ubuntu server install.. i'm wondering what i'm doing wrong. [14:43] ttx, Seems my walrus and cluster failed to auto register [14:44] Daviey: got that grub-pc question as well [14:44] ah is it called smbd ? [14:44] ttx, oh good [14:44] Daviey: see if they got registered in secret [14:44] ttx, In a few steps.. see if grub fails to install [14:44] DavidLevin: does entry=blank work ? [14:44] Daviey: ^ [14:45] ttx, I just pressed return [14:45] Daviey: ok [14:45] (which didn't work) [14:45] Daviey: please check netstat -tl [14:45] i dont understand though. [14:45] to see if you have 8773 8774 8443 and 9001 [14:45] wouldn't grub-pc have been installed before as the boot loader ? [14:45] dammit, i've just euca_conf --registered [14:45] i wouldn't have thought that would have been a new dependency there. [14:45] smoser, i agree [14:46] smoser, I don't know if it's a recent change with our stuff.. or foundations [14:46] smoser: any clue what I should answer to that boot line question ? [14:46] i didnt see it. [14:46] it wasn't there yesterday [14:46] oh. [14:46] wait. whats the question ? [14:46] Daviey: did you get a similar Q when installing the CLC/Walrus/etc? I did not [14:47] Linux command line: [14:47] ttx, On your NC install... did you get grub asking you to check the "Linux command line" it apparently extracted from /etc/default/grub? [14:47]