| davmor2 | morning all | 11:02 |
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| ara | morning davmor2 | 11:35 |
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| hggdh | morning all | 12:53 |
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| hggdh | the server ISO is going through the third iteration, correct? | 13:13 |
| ara | hggdh, that's what I heard, yes | 13:15 |
| * ara -> lunch | 13:17 | |
| hggdh | ara, thank you | 13:21 |
| zul | yes it should be available now | 13:30 |
| hggdh | zul: great, thanks | 13:41 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu images tested done; now testing Ubuntu alternate images | 14:25 |
| * ara hugs charlie-tca | 14:27 | |
| * ara starts the "optional" test cases | 14:28 | |
| * hggdh enters hell while testing UEC | 14:43 | |
| hggdh | abandon hope, etc, etc | 14:43 |
| bladernr | Hey... does anyone know if there's a way to use testdrive against local ISO copies instead of having it rsync every time? | 14:53 |
| charlie-tca | I think so | 14:56 |
| charlie-tca | copy /etc/testdriverc to ~/.testdriverc and change lines at about line 48 | 14:57 |
| charlie-tca | Comment "u = rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage" | 14:58 |
| charlie-tca | add a new line starting with "u = " and the location you want it to use locally | 14:58 |
| charlie-tca | This u = "file://mnt/whynot-maverick_meerkat-1010/xubuntu" lets it use my local downloaded iso | 14:59 |
| charlie-tca | and since there are 4 iso images there, it even asks which one I want | 14:59 |
| bladernr | charlie-tca: yeah, I just pinged kirkland and he pointed out the glaringly obvious... | 15:07 |
| davmor2 | ara: so the wubi issue is across all the desktops | 16:24 |
| ara | davmor2, do you know if they are they going to respin because of that? | 16:25 |
| davmor2 | ara: I wouldn't of thought so ev is debconf with a crap connection | 16:25 |
| fader_ | Howdy folks | 17:19 |
| * fader_ starts syncing ISOs. | 17:19 | |
| davmor2 | fader_: hello slacker where you been sciving off to? | 17:21 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Traveling... had some family issues that necessitated me going back home for a bit | 17:22 |
| bladernr | hrmmm are there special video settings necessary for KVM and Maverick? Both my 64bit Kubuntu installs ran fine, but once I get logged in via KDM I get nothign but a blank white screen and a mouse pointer. | 17:40 |
| ara | bladernr, it looks like a bug | 17:51 |
| ara | bladernr, it should work out of the box | 17:51 |
| ara | Riddell, ^ any idea? | 17:51 |
| * ara takes a break before the IRC meeting | 17:52 | |
| bladernr | ara... I was wondering if it was that, or just me. For A3 I'm trying to make the switch from Virtualbox to KVM | 17:52 |
| Riddell | shouldn't be but it's always possible kwin's compositing doesn't work with it | 17:53 |
| Riddell | bladernr: I take it gnome works ok? | 17:53 |
| ara | Riddell, it works for me | 17:53 |
| Riddell | bladernr: what happens if you press alt-f2 ? | 17:53 |
| bladernr | Riddell: I'm doing a Ubuntu install now to verify that. My last two were Kubuntu Alternates so no GUI until after install... | 17:54 |
| Riddell | i just did a alternate amd64 kubuntu install and it's fine, so it'll be something about the video driver usage probably | 17:54 |
| bladernr | Riddell: FWIW, the GNOME session on the Live CD works fine | 17:55 |
| bladernr | Riddell: That's what I thought. Someone else did one of the kubuntu alternate tests earlier and didn't mention issues... | 17:55 |
| bladernr | but as this is the first time I've really used KVM (I'm an old Xen guy) I'm learning by doing :/ | 17:55 |
| Riddell | the other possiblity is plasma crashing or not starting which is what the alt-f2 test is for | 17:55 |
| Riddell | davmor2: hmm, I'm also getting the low video mode dialogue on live CD startup | 18:06 |
| Riddell | although it then starts in perfectly good video mode with compositing | 18:06 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: How are you getting to that bit mine is just dropping into terminal | 18:21 |
| Riddell | I just click OK a couple of times | 18:22 |
| * davmor2 tries again | 18:22 | |
| Riddell | davmor2: no problem on an installed machine though | 18:28 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: resorted to typing startx to get it up and running again | 18:31 |
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| davmor2 | Hey Riddell you know the Recent Devices icon will it not get confused with USB ? | 18:34 |
| Riddell | with USB what? | 18:34 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: the icon used is very similar to the one for USB | 18:35 |
| Riddell | with a USB socket? I wouldn't think so, one is a physical part of the computer and the other is an icon :) | 18:35 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I was thinking more that it would only list what was connected via USB :D | 18:36 |
| Riddell | maybe, I agree it's not ideal, but you get a large panel popping up when you insert anything (e.g. CD) so it's pretty obvious when you need it | 18:37 |
| charlie-tca | I can not do the alternate image LTSP server installs; I don't have the setup for it | 19:09 |
| Riddell | davmor2: ubuntu desktop CD is fine, I wonder if KDM is crashing | 19:10 |
| bladernr | Riddell: From our earlier discussion... alt-f2 does nothing. alt-f3 DOES open a window menu, but I can't do anything with it (the VM seems VERY sluggish). GNOME worked perfectly | 19:12 |
| bladernr | Riddell: kubuntu amd64 in KVM ^^ | 19:12 |
| Riddell | bladernr: are you able to get to a linux terminal? | 19:13 |
| Riddell | I'm curious to know if plasma is running | 19:13 |
| bladernr | Riddell: yep... plasma-desktop is running | 19:16 |
| Riddell | bladernr: well that's weird | 19:21 |
| Riddell | bladernr: what happens if you start another app? export DISPLAY=:0; konsole | 19:22 |
| Riddell | ? | 19:22 |
| Riddell | davmor2: log is complaining about kdm timing out, I wonder if it's just sensitive to the CD being slow | 19:22 |
| bladernr | Riddell: ibus errors, the last one being "no connection to ibus-daemon" | 19:24 |
| Riddell | davmor2: I reported bug 613574 | 19:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 613574 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "kdm times out on live cd (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613574 | 19:24 |
| Riddell | bladernr: that's fine, does it appear on the X server? | 19:24 |
| bladernr | nope | 19:24 |
| Riddell | curiouser and curiouser | 19:27 |
| Riddell | bladernr: is it an installed system? | 19:28 |
| bladernr | yes | 19:28 |
| bladernr | installed via alt... let me boot the regular kubuntu image and see what happens | 19:28 |
| Riddell | bladernr: can you put this into ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc | 19:28 |
| Riddell | [Compositing] | 19:28 |
| Riddell | Enabled=false | 19:28 |
| Riddell | see if that helps? | 19:28 |
| * Riddell out for a bit | 19:29 | |
| bladernr | hrmmm yeah. | 19:29 |
| bladernr | Riddell: with that, the KDM login box disappears after I log in, but the KDM background remains and I get no desktop at all... | 19:36 |
| bladernr | Riddell: just tried the kubuntu desktop live cd and I get the same thing | 19:38 |
| fader_ | bladernr: kubuntu alts are looking good for me under virtualbox | 19:44 |
| bladernr | Riddell: actually, with the live CD, I get the blank white screen/pointer, then it cycles to a KDM login, the login box disappears after a few seconds and nada | 19:45 |
| bladernr | fader_: yeah, I just HAD to go to KVM this week... but it only happens with KDE in KVM for me... Gnome is find | 19:45 |
| bladernr | fine | 19:45 |
| fader_ | Hehe | 19:45 |
| bladernr | sigh... I should have just stuck with VBox | 19:45 |
| bladernr | Now I've gotta go disentangle all this KVM stuff out of my system because they can't coexist... | 19:46 |
| bladernr | >:-( | 19:46 |
| fader_ | bladernr: IIRC you can just rmmod kvm and insmod whatever vbox's module is | 19:46 |
| fader_ | vboxdrv IIRC | 19:47 |
| bladernr | hrmmm... I'll give that a shot... | 19:47 |
| bladernr | yay, fader_ is my hero | 19:49 |
| fader_ | Aw, shucks. | 19:49 |
| bladernr | still gonna rm -rf kvm though... | 19:49 |
| bladernr | maybe... | 19:50 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: thanks I've subbed to it give me a ping when you think you have a fix for it and I'll try it out :) | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | bladernr: I have never been able to make KVM work for me. I still use VBox here | 19:58 |
| bladernr | yeah, I'm moving back, have VBox running now... | 19:59 |
| davmor2 | bladernr: don't make fader_ head swell he has enough trouble getting through doors as it is | 20:00 |
| bladernr | davmor2: it's not his he.... oh... nevermind... ;-) | 20:00 |
| charlie-tca | qa meeting time - #ubuntu-quality | 20:01 |
| fader_ | I have a minor bug here... kubuntu OEM mode doesn't display the desktop folder on first boot but does on subsequent boots. (Before running oem-config) | 20:16 |
| fader_ | Any guesses as to where I should file that? :) | 20:16 |
| fader_ | I don't *think* it's a ubiquity thing... | 20:16 |
| fader_ | And in fact it's not, as it hits the installed user as well. Weird. Maybe this is expected behavior? | 20:19 |
| KE1HA | Hello all. For ISO-testing, what bug-tag should we use if we need to submit a correction to the test-document? | 20:39 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: Just so I am clear on what you are asking, do you mean there is a mistake in the test case itself (rather than a bug in Ubuntu)? | 20:40 |
| KE1HA | rrr Yes, there's a step that happens during install that does nto appear on the test document. | 20:41 |
| KE1HA | In this particula case, ISO-Testing for KUB-ALT-AMD64, Debian-Installer Encrypted LVM Drive, Case ID: del-001, Im prompted for "Partition Disks" after step 8, but the test doc does not include the step. There's also a "Configure the Closk" step that is missing. | 20:44 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: To be honest the best thing to do is to edit that document and add the missing steps yourself :) | 20:45 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: It's on a wiki so you can create an account if you don't have one and modify the test case | 20:45 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: If you're not willing/able to do that then you would need to file a bug, but I'm not sure against what :/ | 20:46 |
| KE1HA | rr. Yes, I've ket a local version with the edits, but jsut wanted to know how I shold go about gettign it updated. I should try editign the wiki I suppose. TNX fer the input. | 20:46 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: Great, thank you! | 20:47 |
| fader_ | I'll keep trying to figure out where to file a bug, just in case you're not able to update it :) | 20:47 |
| KE1HA | I'm also posintg the observations in the test comments. | 20:47 |
| KE1HA | This is kind of fun actually, first time I'vedone the ISO-testing. | 20:47 |
| sbeattie | fader: qa website is probably the closest project. | 20:47 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: Excellent! Thanks for helping out! :) | 20:47 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: Yeah, that's the project I was trying to find in launchpad, thanks! | 20:48 |
| KE1HA | Next step is checkbox testing, will be a bit of a challange fer me on that one :-) | 20:48 |
| fader_ | I kept trying variations on "qa wiki" instead of "website" :/ | 20:48 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: That one at least I can tell you to file bugs against the "checkbox" project ;) | 20:48 |
| hggdh | KE1HA: was you had requested membership in the cug-control? | 20:49 |
| hggdh | s/cug/bug/ | 20:49 |
| KE1HA | yes, I subniited a request to bug-squad, but not accepted yet. | 20:50 |
| hggdh | bug-squad or bug-control? I have one pending for -control | 20:50 |
| KE1HA | Hmm, Let me look. | 20:50 |
| KE1HA | Bug-Squad .. maby should ahve been to bug-control ? | 20:51 |
| KE1HA | as Im certainly not a code developer. | 20:51 |
| hggdh | KE1HA (ke1ha) wants to be a member of Ubuntu Bug Control (...) | 20:51 |
| hggdh | KE1HA: the point is you have to follow the requirements as in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl | 20:52 |
| KE1HA | I just want to help with Bugs as best I can' but Im not a developer, which one should I have requested to join? | 20:52 |
| hggdh | initially it should be bug-squad | 20:52 |
| hggdh | bug-control requires experience on triaging | 20:52 |
| KE1HA | I "think" I followed the requirments, but maybe not. Im in Launchpad, and subscribed to the mailing list, and have signed the COC. | 20:53 |
| hggdh | you do (but not for bug-control). Please submit a request for bug-squad, and I will approve it | 20:54 |
| hggdh | KE1HA: meanwhile, I am rejecting the request for -control; when you have some bugs under your belt, please reapply | 20:54 |
| KE1HA | rr no problem, so to hep out with bugs I should join Bug-Squad ? | 20:56 |
| hggdh | yes,please. This tells us you want to help | 20:56 |
| hggdh | KE1HA: and: (1) you do not need to be a code developer to help; (2) THANK YOU for helping | 20:56 |
| KE1HA | rr, TNX, I'll go read the req's and if I run into troubles, will pop back in for assistance. | 20:56 |
| hggdh | KE1HA: the best place for triaging help is #ubuntu-bugs | 20:57 |
| KE1HA | rr. TNX | 20:57 |
| hggdh | welcome | 20:57 |
| KE1HA | hggdh, I went to https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad and asked to join, this is the cottrect sites yes ? | 21:23 |
| hggdh | KE1HA: yes. we should receive an email in a few... let me check | 21:26 |
| hggdh | KE1HA: done | 21:33 |
| bladernr | anyone else seen the aubergine splash screen when booting Kubuntu ISOs? I've just booted the 32 bit one twice, and I got the aubergine color splash during boot (though it DOES boot the Kubuntu installer) | 21:43 |
| bladernr | ^^ the screen that says Ubuntu with the blinky dots | 21:43 |
| KE1HA | hggdh, TNX | 21:45 |
| KE1HA | bladernr, yep, saw the same thing here with the Encrypted LVM install. | 21:46 |
| bladernr | KE1HA: ok... so I'm NOT going crazy (at least not today) | 21:46 |
| KE1HA | LOL.. well if so, we both are :-) | 21:46 |
| bladernr | that or we're both having the same delusion | 21:46 |
| bladernr | heh | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | Ubuntu's splash takes over for everybody, even xubuntu | 21:53 |
| KE1HA | I wish it wouldn't, it's crashing my D400 i855 chipset. | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | https://launchpad.net/bugs/613034 | 21:58 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 613034 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu splash screen is showing Ubuntu 10.10 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | I had it against plymouth, but the devs decided it is not plymouth doing it | 22:00 |
| KE1HA | charlie-tca, I dont know what it is that's crashing mine D400. I tried all the i8xx work-arounds, to no avail. | 22:02 |
| charlie-tca | That one is harder to give answers to | 22:03 |
| KE1HA | I got the installer to at least go through, but then on re-boot, no joy. Will keep plugging away at it. | 22:03 |
| charlie-tca | hmm | 22:04 |
| charlie-tca | Well, I done all the testing I can do today. Good luck with the rest :-) | 22:04 |
| KE1HA | Yep, have a few more to complete. back to it now. | 22:05 |
| KE1HA | Question, when doing an OEM install, during the Username / Pssword section, does the system default to username=OEM? as it passed this section and went stright to "enter PW / Confirm PW" | 22:35 |
| KE1HA | NVM found the answer, it does mand the initial user OEM but it's skipping the option to Encrypt the home direcoty. I suppose that's logical. | 22:41 |
| KE1HA | make* | 22:41 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: Yep, you're seeing expected behavior on the OEM setup | 22:53 |
| fader_ | Which as you say is logical, since it's a temporary user that will be removed when the install is completed by the end user | 22:54 |
| KE1HA | fader_, one thing Im not seeing, once rebooted, in the top-left-corner is the Tool-Box, and Im not find a way to switch to a temporary user to prepare for oem shipment. | 23:09 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: You shouldn't need to switch users... it should log you in as the oem user automatically | 23:10 |
| fader_ | There should be an icon that says something like "prepare for shipping to end user" | 23:10 |
| KE1HA | fader_, Ahh, ok, was following the test do. Also, after doing the prepare for install, should it go back to the Install screen? | 23:11 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: No, I believe at that point it should just act as a normal desktop until you reboot | 23:12 |
| fader_ | After you reboot it should present you with the user setup questions | 23:12 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: If the test case is not correct this is another one that will need updating :) | 23:12 |
| KE1HA | fader_, rr, it's put me back at the Install screen, which is explained in the Test-Doc. Will follow this trhough and see where it leads. RR on another updae to the test-Doc :-) | 23:12 |
| fader_ | KE1HA: Okay, I could be wrong as I was going from (old) memory :) | 23:13 |
| KE1HA | rr. no worres. Will see where it goes. | 23:13 |
| * fader_ gives up for a while and goes to find some food. | 23:14 | |
| fader_ | Ciao! | 23:14 |
| KE1HA | Question: What is the fiffrence between: Alternate OEM Install and Desktop OEM Install (Ubiquity) ? | 23:49 |
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