[11:02] morning all [11:35] morning davmor2 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:53] morning all === vivid` is now known as vivid [13:13] the server ISO is going through the third iteration, correct? [13:15] hggdh, that's what I heard, yes [13:17] * ara -> lunch [13:21] ara, thank you [13:30] yes it should be available now [13:41] zul: great, thanks [14:25] xubuntu images tested done; now testing Ubuntu alternate images [14:27] * ara hugs charlie-tca [14:28] * ara starts the "optional" test cases [14:43] * hggdh enters hell while testing UEC [14:43] abandon hope, etc, etc [14:53] Hey... does anyone know if there's a way to use testdrive against local ISO copies instead of having it rsync every time? [14:56] I think so [14:57] copy /etc/testdriverc to ~/.testdriverc and change lines at about line 48 [14:58] Comment "u = rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage" [14:58] add a new line starting with "u = " and the location you want it to use locally [14:59] This u = "file://mnt/whynot-maverick_meerkat-1010/xubuntu" lets it use my local downloaded iso [14:59] and since there are 4 iso images there, it even asks which one I want [15:07] charlie-tca: yeah, I just pinged kirkland and he pointed out the glaringly obvious... [16:24] ara: so the wubi issue is across all the desktops [16:25] davmor2, do you know if they are they going to respin because of that? [16:25] ara: I wouldn't of thought so ev is debconf with a crap connection [17:19] Howdy folks [17:19] * fader_ starts syncing ISOs. [17:21] fader_: hello slacker where you been sciving off to? [17:22] davmor2: Traveling... had some family issues that necessitated me going back home for a bit [17:40] hrmmm are there special video settings necessary for KVM and Maverick? Both my 64bit Kubuntu installs ran fine, but once I get logged in via KDM I get nothign but a blank white screen and a mouse pointer. [17:51] bladernr, it looks like a bug [17:51] bladernr, it should work out of the box [17:51] Riddell, ^ any idea? [17:52] * ara takes a break before the IRC meeting [17:52] ara... I was wondering if it was that, or just me. For A3 I'm trying to make the switch from Virtualbox to KVM [17:53] shouldn't be but it's always possible kwin's compositing doesn't work with it [17:53] bladernr: I take it gnome works ok? [17:53] Riddell, it works for me [17:53] bladernr: what happens if you press alt-f2 ? [17:54] Riddell: I'm doing a Ubuntu install now to verify that. My last two were Kubuntu Alternates so no GUI until after install... [17:54] i just did a alternate amd64 kubuntu install and it's fine, so it'll be something about the video driver usage probably [17:55] Riddell: FWIW, the GNOME session on the Live CD works fine [17:55] Riddell: That's what I thought. Someone else did one of the kubuntu alternate tests earlier and didn't mention issues... [17:55] but as this is the first time I've really used KVM (I'm an old Xen guy) I'm learning by doing :/ [17:55] the other possiblity is plasma crashing or not starting which is what the alt-f2 test is for [18:06] davmor2: hmm, I'm also getting the low video mode dialogue on live CD startup [18:06] although it then starts in perfectly good video mode with compositing [18:21] Riddell: How are you getting to that bit mine is just dropping into terminal [18:22] I just click OK a couple of times [18:22] * davmor2 tries again [18:28] davmor2: no problem on an installed machine though [18:31] Riddell: resorted to typing startx to get it up and running again === tgm4883 is now known as marty_mcfly === marty_mcfly is now known as tgm4883 [18:34] Hey Riddell you know the Recent Devices icon will it not get confused with USB ? [18:34] with USB what? [18:35] Riddell: the icon used is very similar to the one for USB [18:35] with a USB socket? I wouldn't think so, one is a physical part of the computer and the other is an icon :) [18:36] Riddell: I was thinking more that it would only list what was connected via USB :D [18:37] maybe, I agree it's not ideal, but you get a large panel popping up when you insert anything (e.g. CD) so it's pretty obvious when you need it [19:09] I can not do the alternate image LTSP server installs; I don't have the setup for it [19:10] davmor2: ubuntu desktop CD is fine, I wonder if KDM is crashing [19:12] Riddell: From our earlier discussion... alt-f2 does nothing. alt-f3 DOES open a window menu, but I can't do anything with it (the VM seems VERY sluggish). GNOME worked perfectly [19:12] Riddell: kubuntu amd64 in KVM ^^ [19:13] bladernr: are you able to get to a linux terminal? [19:13] I'm curious to know if plasma is running [19:16] Riddell: yep... plasma-desktop is running [19:21] bladernr: well that's weird [19:22] bladernr: what happens if you start another app? export DISPLAY=:0; konsole [19:22] ? [19:22] davmor2: log is complaining about kdm timing out, I wonder if it's just sensitive to the CD being slow [19:24] Riddell: ibus errors, the last one being "no connection to ibus-daemon" [19:24] davmor2: I reported bug 613574 [19:24] Launchpad bug 613574 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "kdm times out on live cd (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613574 [19:24] bladernr: that's fine, does it appear on the X server? [19:24] nope [19:27] curiouser and curiouser [19:28] bladernr: is it an installed system? [19:28] yes [19:28] installed via alt... let me boot the regular kubuntu image and see what happens [19:28] bladernr: can you put this into ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc [19:28] [Compositing] [19:28] Enabled=false [19:28] see if that helps? [19:29] * Riddell out for a bit [19:29] hrmmm yeah. [19:36] Riddell: with that, the KDM login box disappears after I log in, but the KDM background remains and I get no desktop at all... [19:38] Riddell: just tried the kubuntu desktop live cd and I get the same thing [19:44] bladernr: kubuntu alts are looking good for me under virtualbox [19:45] Riddell: actually, with the live CD, I get the blank white screen/pointer, then it cycles to a KDM login, the login box disappears after a few seconds and nada [19:45] fader_: yeah, I just HAD to go to KVM this week... but it only happens with KDE in KVM for me... Gnome is find [19:45] fine [19:45] Hehe [19:45] sigh... I should have just stuck with VBox [19:46] Now I've gotta go disentangle all this KVM stuff out of my system because they can't coexist... [19:46] >:-( [19:46] bladernr: IIRC you can just rmmod kvm and insmod whatever vbox's module is [19:47] vboxdrv IIRC [19:47] hrmmm... I'll give that a shot... [19:49] yay, fader_ is my hero [19:49] Aw, shucks. [19:49] still gonna rm -rf kvm though... [19:50] maybe... [19:56] Riddell: thanks I've subbed to it give me a ping when you think you have a fix for it and I'll try it out :) [19:58] bladernr: I have never been able to make KVM work for me. I still use VBox here [19:59] yeah, I'm moving back, have VBox running now... [20:00] bladernr: don't make fader_ head swell he has enough trouble getting through doors as it is [20:00] davmor2: it's not his he.... oh... nevermind... ;-) [20:01] qa meeting time - #ubuntu-quality [20:16] I have a minor bug here... kubuntu OEM mode doesn't display the desktop folder on first boot but does on subsequent boots. (Before running oem-config) [20:16] Any guesses as to where I should file that? :) [20:16] I don't *think* it's a ubiquity thing... [20:19] And in fact it's not, as it hits the installed user as well. Weird. Maybe this is expected behavior? [20:39] Hello all. For ISO-testing, what bug-tag should we use if we need to submit a correction to the test-document? [20:40] KE1HA: Just so I am clear on what you are asking, do you mean there is a mistake in the test case itself (rather than a bug in Ubuntu)? [20:41] rrr Yes, there's a step that happens during install that does nto appear on the test document. [20:44] In this particula case, ISO-Testing for KUB-ALT-AMD64, Debian-Installer Encrypted LVM Drive, Case ID: del-001, Im prompted for "Partition Disks" after step 8, but the test doc does not include the step. There's also a "Configure the Closk" step that is missing. [20:45] KE1HA: To be honest the best thing to do is to edit that document and add the missing steps yourself :) [20:45] KE1HA: It's on a wiki so you can create an account if you don't have one and modify the test case [20:46] KE1HA: If you're not willing/able to do that then you would need to file a bug, but I'm not sure against what :/ [20:46] rr. Yes, I've ket a local version with the edits, but jsut wanted to know how I shold go about gettign it updated. I should try editign the wiki I suppose. TNX fer the input. [20:47] KE1HA: Great, thank you! [20:47] I'll keep trying to figure out where to file a bug, just in case you're not able to update it :) [20:47] I'm also posintg the observations in the test comments. [20:47] This is kind of fun actually, first time I'vedone the ISO-testing. [20:47] fader: qa website is probably the closest project. [20:47] KE1HA: Excellent! Thanks for helping out! :) [20:48] sbeattie: Yeah, that's the project I was trying to find in launchpad, thanks! [20:48] Next step is checkbox testing, will be a bit of a challange fer me on that one :-) [20:48] I kept trying variations on "qa wiki" instead of "website" :/ [20:48] KE1HA: That one at least I can tell you to file bugs against the "checkbox" project ;) [20:49] KE1HA: was you had requested membership in the cug-control? [20:49] s/cug/bug/ [20:50] yes, I subniited a request to bug-squad, but not accepted yet. [20:50] bug-squad or bug-control? I have one pending for -control [20:50] Hmm, Let me look. [20:51] Bug-Squad .. maby should ahve been to bug-control ? [20:51] as Im certainly not a code developer. [20:51] KE1HA (ke1ha) wants to be a member of Ubuntu Bug Control (...) [20:52] KE1HA: the point is you have to follow the requirements as in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl [20:52] I just want to help with Bugs as best I can' but Im not a developer, which one should I have requested to join? [20:52] initially it should be bug-squad [20:52] bug-control requires experience on triaging [20:53] I "think" I followed the requirments, but maybe not. Im in Launchpad, and subscribed to the mailing list, and have signed the COC. [20:54] you do (but not for bug-control). Please submit a request for bug-squad, and I will approve it [20:54] KE1HA: meanwhile, I am rejecting the request for -control; when you have some bugs under your belt, please reapply [20:56] rr no problem, so to hep out with bugs I should join Bug-Squad ? [20:56] yes,please. This tells us you want to help [20:56] KE1HA: and: (1) you do not need to be a code developer to help; (2) THANK YOU for helping [20:56] rr, TNX, I'll go read the req's and if I run into troubles, will pop back in for assistance. [20:57] KE1HA: the best place for triaging help is #ubuntu-bugs [20:57] rr. TNX [20:57] welcome [21:23] hggdh, I went to https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad and asked to join, this is the cottrect sites yes ? [21:26] KE1HA: yes. we should receive an email in a few... let me check [21:33] KE1HA: done [21:43] anyone else seen the aubergine splash screen when booting Kubuntu ISOs? I've just booted the 32 bit one twice, and I got the aubergine color splash during boot (though it DOES boot the Kubuntu installer) [21:43] ^^ the screen that says Ubuntu with the blinky dots [21:45] hggdh, TNX [21:46] bladernr, yep, saw the same thing here with the Encrypted LVM install. [21:46] KE1HA: ok... so I'm NOT going crazy (at least not today) [21:46] LOL.. well if so, we both are :-) [21:46] that or we're both having the same delusion [21:46] heh [21:53] Ubuntu's splash takes over for everybody, even xubuntu [21:58] I wish it wouldn't, it's crashing my D400 i855 chipset. [21:58] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613034 [21:58] Launchpad bug 613034 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu splash screen is showing Ubuntu 10.10 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [22:00] I had it against plymouth, but the devs decided it is not plymouth doing it [22:02] charlie-tca, I dont know what it is that's crashing mine D400. I tried all the i8xx work-arounds, to no avail. [22:03] That one is harder to give answers to [22:03] I got the installer to at least go through, but then on re-boot, no joy. Will keep plugging away at it. [22:04] hmm [22:04] Well, I done all the testing I can do today. Good luck with the rest :-) [22:05] Yep, have a few more to complete. back to it now. [22:35] Question, when doing an OEM install, during the Username / Pssword section, does the system default to username=OEM? as it passed this section and went stright to "enter PW / Confirm PW" [22:41] NVM found the answer, it does mand the initial user OEM but it's skipping the option to Encrypt the home direcoty. I suppose that's logical. [22:41] make* [22:53] KE1HA: Yep, you're seeing expected behavior on the OEM setup [22:54] Which as you say is logical, since it's a temporary user that will be removed when the install is completed by the end user [23:09] fader_, one thing Im not seeing, once rebooted, in the top-left-corner is the Tool-Box, and Im not find a way to switch to a temporary user to prepare for oem shipment. [23:10] KE1HA: You shouldn't need to switch users... it should log you in as the oem user automatically [23:10] There should be an icon that says something like "prepare for shipping to end user" [23:11] fader_, Ahh, ok, was following the test do. Also, after doing the prepare for install, should it go back to the Install screen? [23:12] KE1HA: No, I believe at that point it should just act as a normal desktop until you reboot [23:12] After you reboot it should present you with the user setup questions [23:12] KE1HA: If the test case is not correct this is another one that will need updating :) [23:12] fader_, rr, it's put me back at the Install screen, which is explained in the Test-Doc. Will follow this trhough and see where it leads. RR on another updae to the test-Doc :-) [23:13] KE1HA: Okay, I could be wrong as I was going from (old) memory :) [23:13] rr. no worres. Will see where it goes. [23:14] * fader_ gives up for a while and goes to find some food. [23:14] Ciao! [23:49] Question: What is the fiffrence between: Alternate OEM Install and Desktop OEM Install (Ubiquity) ?