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claydohScottK: it's done already iirc, url changed iirc00:02
claydohiirc00:03
ScottKclaydoh: Thanks.00:03
ScottKryanakca: It'd be nice to have a link to that somewhere findable.00:03
* claydoh just can't remember the url, and don't have rss feedss set up here00:04
QuintasanHmm, what would you do if you started reciving offending text messages from unknown number?00:04
ScottKGenerally just ignore them.  The number it says it's from is spoofable.00:05
ScottKSMS spam is the next great frontier and phone companies aren't generally very well equipped to deal with complaints.00:06
Quintasanseawolf: not that easy in Poland00:06
Quintasanarght00:06
QuintasanScottK: ^^00:06
QuintasanCause, few services support polish providers00:06
QuintasanWell00:07
QuintasanI'll let it slide for now00:07
ScottKQuintasan: No, you misunderstand.  The protocol that says where the message is coming from is not, I don't think, secure.00:07
ScottKNot quite the same things, but, for example, caller ID is trivially spoofable.00:07
QuintasanScottK: I wonder how hard is it to spoof that.00:08
ScottKI think not very, but for SMS, I'm not 100 percent sure.00:08
Quintasanbah, caller ID, I used it to do pranks long time ago00:08
Quintasanhmm00:08
Quintasantime for research00:08
Riddellmaverick packages uploadeding to ninjas00:35
macouploaded or uploading?00:36
macoRiddell: ^00:36
Riddelluploadeding00:41
ScottKuploaderedinger.00:45
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Quintasan\o08:46
Troubleo/08:48
Quintasanomfg08:59
QuintasanQt port for Android08:59
QuintasanPlasma on my Milestone?08:59
jussiQuintasan: if you get quassel working on milestone, you will have me so greatful... (I would actually pay a decent amount of money for that)09:17
* jussi hopes one day someone will get it working - I couldnt even get Qt to compile for android, never mind quassel09:19
QuintasanOh well09:22
QuintasanI'll try09:22
MamarokI am not capable to add a printer to my system (KDE 4.4.92): http://myriam.kollide.net/printer_problem.png09:46
Mamaroktried removing, reinstalling, no way to add a printer09:54
alvinMamarok: There were problems in the past with that module too (bug 348704). I use lpadmin to add printers, but keep bug 482547 in mind and create a /usr/share/cups/model symlink to /usr/share/ppd first.09:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 348704 in python-qt4 (Ubuntu Jaunty) "/var/lib/python-support/python2.6/dbus/mainloop/qt.so missing after upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34870409:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 482547 in cups (Ubuntu) "lpadmin / cups-driverd : wrong ppd path , Unable to copy PPD file!" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48254709:57
jussiMamarok: yeah, Ive always just used localhost:63109:57
jussiMamarok: but to confirm, I also have the same issue09:58
KRFi wonder if that is ever gonna be fixed10:07
sheytanHey gys10:13
sheytanguys\10:13
sheytani'm looking for a nice quality photo of the new kubuntu cd10:13
sheytanor the case10:13
sheytananyone?10:13
RiddellMamarok: what version of KDE?10:24
Mamarok4.4.9210:28
jussiRiddell: I have same thing here on lucid with 4.5rc210:28
RiddellMamarok: it's fixed in final10:28
MamarokI am configuring through cups now10:29
Mamarokbut nice to hear it's fixed :)10:29
jussiyay10:29
jussibtw, is rc3 in a ppa yet?10:30
Riddellno, we're doing final now10:30
jussiahh, ok, great!10:32
alvinI'm really glad to hear the release was delayed.10:34
jussialvin: ?10:35
alvinjussi: Being able to delay a release with good reason shows good management. I was losing faith (not in Kubuntu) in too many products that wanted to release then and there, but were full of critical bugs.10:36
markeyanyone know how to enable bash completion for git? I remember this used to work 11:14
* Riddell has never used git11:15
Tm_Tmarkey: hu, doesn't work? let me try what's here...11:16
Tm_Tmarkey: works here, you have autocompletion enabled in your bashrc?11:17
markeyah, nope11:18
markeythat's probably it :)11:18
Tm_T(:)11:19
Riddelldebfx: am pbuilder kdeutils fix now11:19
Tm_TAssembly is about to begin, first seminars in less than 4 hours: http://assemblytv.net/schedules11:23
Tm_Tapachelogger: you about?11:28
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apacheloggerTm_T: hai12:10
Tm_Tapachelogger: see this aragon in -ops, his hostname, nice or not?12:13
Tm_Twhat I understood, rather not12:14
nigelbmarkey: if you installed it from repos, you should have completion12:17
Tm_Tnigelb: not if he hasn't turned autocompletion on in bashrc12:19
Tm_TIIRC it's not on by default12:19
markeyworks now :)12:24
markeyTm_T: you're at Assembly? 12:27
nigelbTm_T: oh, it was on for me.  strange12:27
Tm_Tmarkey: should be, but couldn't make it, just like with any event in last year or two12:27
markeyah12:27
markey"Interview with John Buckman", that's the Magnatune boss :)12:29
markey(from Assembly TV schedule)12:29
Tm_Tye12:29
yofelJontheEchidna: kde bug 24679912:43
ubottuKDE bug 246799 in general "muon crashes when selecting ada-mode" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24679912:43
yofelactually I'm a bit confused since it says '#6  0x00007f6ef7c84eb4 in pkgRecords::Lookup(pkgCache::VerFileIterator const&) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg.so.4.10' and I don't have a libapt-pkg.so.4.10 here12:44
yofel*headdesk*12:45
yofelthe heat is getting to me..12:45
yofelof course I have12:45
rgreeningScottK: ubs-creator-kde only works with Ubuntu (and likely Debian) based distros. At least it's only verified/guaranteed to work with Ubuntu at the moment. Though, there is work underway via GSOC to allow booting via ISO directly off the usb. This could mean ANY distro would work in the future. 13:00
apacheloggerTm_T: well a bit of the sexual nature13:00
rgreeningTm_T: see my comment above13:00
Tm_Trgreening: so I should be able to make bootable PPC usb in x86 Ubuntu?14:17
rgreeningpossibly14:18
Tm_Tok, will try it then, thanks14:23
ScottKTm_T: New ISO that's not oversize.14:30
ScottKIt would still be interesting to know if the USB thing works.14:31
ScottKTm_T: You may be affected by bug 613574, so watch out.14:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 613574 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Maverick) "kdm times out on live cd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61357414:33
ryanakcaHmmm... Are there any packages that *don't* depend on debhelper? Or can I safely add (permanently) it to my build environment and save on downloading/installing it every time?14:35
Riddell"hello" still doesn't use it14:36
ScottKryanakca: There are a few, but you're probably not very likely to touch them.14:36
ryanakcaThanks14:37
\shScottK: I totally agree with you not to include this ubuntu-tweak tool14:44
ScottK\sh: Please say so and better yet, review some of the code and find more reasons.14:45
\shScottK: I just took the source from revu and checked...(wondering if this is the latest code)...well, actually it's a total copy of tools we already have on a gnome desktop14:46
JontheEchidnayofel: would you be able to try a patch against libqapt? http://pastebin.com/0nDW4xT914:46
Riddellyes, it's still in new, I still need to make a decision14:46
ScottK\sh: Please write a thorough message.14:46
ScottKRiddell: I think the fact that it adds untrusted repositories is enough to reject it, but there are no doubt piles of other reasons.  Envy got in, but was required to drop adding a PPA or be removed before release.14:47
\shScottK: I already have...I won't write a real code review, because it's a total mess of collections of python code...regarding python-apt, dbus, etc.pp. 14:47
ScottK\sh: Certainly.  What I'd really like is something like the review mjg59 did of automatix, but I haven't the time.14:48
ghostcubeapachelogger: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/ wth?14:49
ghostcube:D14:49
\shScottK: any clue about policykit? if so, please have a look at data/com.ubuntu-tweak.daemon.policy.in (Idon't have clue about that)14:50
RiddellScottK: required by whom?14:50
ScottKI don't, but JontheEchidna knows about policykit.  Maybe he'll look.14:50
ScottKRiddell: There was a critical bug filed against it.14:50
JontheEchidnacould somebody pastebinit the policy file?14:51
Riddell\sh: ^^14:53
ScottKRiddell: I can't seem to find it, but fundamentally in archive packages should not add third party repositories (one of the ones it adds is mediabuntu, btw).14:54
ScottKIt fundamentally breaks the security model.14:54
Riddellunless your app name is ubiquity presumably14:55
ScottKRight, but it only uses stuff from withing the security boundary of the distro.14:57
ScottKIf a package added sources.list from Lucid, downloaded source, and built it for Maverick, it'd be odd, but not a security concern.14:58
Riddellmy reference was to ubiquity downloading legally questionable stuff from medibuntu which is about to happen14:59
ScottKWell I don't think it should do that.15:00
ScottKIs this in a spec somewhere?15:00
debfxJontheEchidna: I have a few patches for muon: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/muon/15:02
debfxJontheEchidna: also I noticed that muon silently fails when another package manager is holding the lock15:02
JontheEchidnaneat, I'll take a look at them in a bit :)15:03
RiddellScottK: I've no idea15:03
* Riddell uploads new 4.5 tars to ninjas15:06
Riddellfor lucid15:06
fldcshouldn't the kdesudo patch be removed for kdm in 4.5? seem to work fine without it.15:07
fldc:D15:07
JontheEchidna\sh, ScottK: it does have an OR dependency on a nonexistant package (policykit-1-qt)15:07
JontheEchidnafldc: yes, the root bit should be removed from kdm's .desktop file15:07
Riddellfldc: which patch is that?15:08
JontheEchidnaRiddell: a patch doesn't need to be dropped, but one added to remove the "I need root" bit from kdm's kcm's .desktop file15:09
fldcJontheEchidna: ah, so that's how it works :)15:10
Riddelloh I see15:10
JontheEchidnawell, we do have a patch15:10
JontheEchidnabut that's to launch all kdm15:10
JontheEchidna*kcm's15:10
JontheEchidnathat advertise that they need root15:10
ScottKTm_T: Please let us know if you get a chance to try the powerpc image so we can get it 'released' if it works.15:12
jussihrm, on maverick, getting this after every apt command: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 115:20
Quintasan\o/15:20
Riddelljussi: bug 613412 ?15:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 613412 in packagekit (Ubuntu Maverick) "packagekit in maverick causes error in apt operations" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61341215:21
jussiahh, that looks like it15:22
Riddellneeds dantii to fix probably15:22
jussiok, excellent. Glad we are on top of it15:22
jussioh and btw...15:22
jussiI HAS INTERNETS!!!15:22
Riddellyay!15:23
Riddellcivilisation has reached your new hoose15:23
jussithey came out and fixed it today15:23
jussiaparently thunder had gotten to it...15:23
CIA-98[muon] jmthomas * 1159506 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (FilterWidget.cpp FilterWidget.h) Select the "All" item in the filter widget views by default. Thanks for Felix Geyer for the patch15:24
QuintasanRiddell: testing updates once again15:26
RiddellQuintasan: which updates?15:27
yofelJontheEchidna: it doesn't crash anymore with your patch and seems fine so far, only the 'Mark for Installation' button is pretty useless ^^15:28
JontheEchidna:P15:29
JontheEchidnayofel: thanks for testing15:29
yofelnp15:29
CIA-98[muon] jmthomas * 1159508 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/FilterWidget.cpp Always apply the filters on single click. Thanks to Felix Geyer for the patch15:31
JontheEchidnacia is being a bit behind with the announces ;)15:31
QuintasanRiddell: KDE in maverick15:32
RiddellQuintasan: from ninjas?15:32
CIA-98[muon] jmthomas * 1159510 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Go back to the main view when the user reverts all changes and is in the "Preview changes" view. Thanks to Felix Geyer for the patch15:34
CIA-98[libqapt] jmthomas * 1159513 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Don't crash grabbing the source package when a package has no candidate version due to pinning BUG:24679915:42
Tm_TScottK: found my rw discs, so burning the image and will run it right when its reade16:03
ScottKTm_T: Great.16:04
Tm_Toh whatta.... k3b or some other blocks empty rw from itself?16:05
shadeslayer\o16:06
shadeslayerbtw16:07
shadeslayerEBN is up too.. now we can fix docbooks with them patches :D16:07
=== ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu, making your PC friendly | Maverick Alpha 3 Released! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | KDE 4.5.0 is go for packaging! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | New Kubuntu site up! thanks to ofirk !
* ScottK summons the web site ninjas to make an announcement.16:16
shadeslayerwhee :D16:18
RiddellScottK: trying..16:18
Tm_TScottK: I think wodim just spit out the error that it doesn't fit or something16:23
ScottKTm_T: You got the new one from today?16:23
Tm_Thmmm, I doublecheck16:24
Tm_TScottK: bah, I did download yesterdays image today...16:24
ScottKThat would explain it ....16:25
RiddellScottK: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/maverick-alpha-316:25
Tm_TScottK: retrying =)16:25
ScottKRiddell: Nice.16:25
ScottKTm_T: Thanks.16:25
Riddellnow I can upload my backlog of things16:27
Riddellagateau: libdbusmenu-qt and plasma-widget-menubar uploaded16:27
agateauRiddell: thanks!16:27
stryjancan anyone give me a clue in which package are kde api docs located. I'm trying to write something in Kdevelop and I'm a bit frustrated.16:31
shadeslayerstryjan: they should have been pulled in with kdevelop16:31
shadeslayerand user support is that way16:32
* shadeslayer points to #kubuntu16:32
stryjansorry. I thought that -devel would be a better place to ask (cause, you know, I'd like to devel sth)16:33
debfxRiddell: could you also upload a kcm category fix: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kcm-gtk_0.5.3-0ubuntu6.debdiff16:33
Riddellstryjan: there's no correct channel for questions about development on a paticular distro I'm afraid16:33
Riddellstryjan: and I just use api.kde.org for docs16:34
RiddellI don't think we package it any more16:34
stryjanRiddell: thanks. I just thought it's easier to used built in documentation viewer, that's all16:34
Riddellnew qt curve out (also bug 528872)16:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 528872 in gtk2-engines-qtcurve (Ubuntu) "equal rgb values when calling common/common.h:rgbToHsv causes segfault" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52887216:39
shadeslayerRiddell: want me to package>16:44
shadeslayerif no one else is up ...16:44
Riddellshadeslayer: yes please :)16:44
shadeslayerok :D16:44
shadeslayer1.52 right?16:45
Riddellyes16:45
Riddelland can you check if it has a fix for that bug?16:45
Riddelldebfx: "X-KDE-System-Settings-Parent-Category-V2" it really uses the V2 key?16:46
shadeslayermy interwebz is full of fail today :(16:47
debfxRiddell: kde 4.5 uses -V2 if it's present to allow backwards compatibility16:47
Riddelldebfx: backwards compatibilty that still ends up in Lost+Found?16:48
Riddelldebfx: uploaded16:49
debfxRiddell: no, kde <= 4.4 uses X-KDE-System-Settings-Parent-Category and kde >= 4.5 ...-V216:49
shadeslayerRiddell: err... its named  kde-style-qtcurve ? ( the source tarball )16:51
debfxwe can just sync qtcurve from debian16:52
debfxkde-style-qtcurve and gtk2-engines-qtcurve16:53
shadeslayeryeah16:53
shadeslayerill look into that16:53
debfxit doesn't fix the equal rgb bug though16:53
Riddellfooey16:53
shadeslayeraw.. :P16:53
Riddellquestion is if we want to include that temporary patch then16:54
shadeslayerbuilding in pbuilder16:54
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shadeslayersheytan: i have a old 7.04 CD as well :P16:59
shadeslayerif you want a photo of that :D16:59
sheytanshadeslayer i can't put that on the web page :D16:59
shadeslayershipit++17:00
sheytanwanna see some new mocks? ;)17:00
shadeslayeri do believe that all our artwork is on the wiki17:00
shadeslayersheytan: again? :D17:00
sheytanshadeslayer there is still muuuuch work to be done ;)17:00
sheytanhttp://a.imageshack.us/img831/273/downloads.jpg take a look here17:00
shadeslayer:O17:01
shadeslayerdont tease us :P17:01
shadeslayerdude.. that is awesome.. those install buttons are *very* innovative17:02
shadeslayerwe can have them linked via apturl :P17:02
sheytanshadeslyaer me and ofir already had that idea ;)17:02
sheytanand thank you :)17:02
shadeslayerhehe :P17:02
shadeslayerwell... since now rekonq now has apturl support, we can make this work by default :D17:03
sheytanshadeslayer woow! nice. I didn't get it to work in chrome :(17:03
shadeslayeryeah chrome is fail at that :P17:04
shadeslayersheytan: i refactored the code to get it working :P17:04
shadeslayerhad to add about 5-6 LOC17:04
sheytanshadeslayer nice. I only wish for rekonq to not crash that much :(17:05
sheytantake a look here: http://a.imageshack.us/img696/8712/downloadkubuntuchoose.jpg17:05
shadeslayersheytan: updated to kde 4.5 ?17:05
sheytanshadeslayer yep, and rekonq 5.3 something i guess17:05
shadeslayerand its more of a issue with webkit+Qt 4.717:05
shadeslayersheytan: err... we dont even have a 1.0 release :P17:05
sheytanshadeslayer will be fixed for 10.10, right? :)17:06
shadeslayerit should be 17:06
sheytanthen ok ;)17:06
sheytanhow do you like the download chooser? :D17:06
ScottKshadeslayer: I don't think rekonq is going to be the default browser.17:06
shadeslayererr...well.. konqueror supports apturl as well :P17:07
sheytaninstead of changing the browser every release, put firefox there :)17:07
sheytanit has KDE support17:07
sheytanmake the default style oxygen like from kde-look :D17:07
sheytanno one will see the difference :D17:08
shadeslayermeh...17:08
shadeslayersheytan: gecko is sloow 17:08
sheytanshadeslayer then put chrome ;D17:08
sheytanchromium, sorry :D:D17:08
ScottKsheytan: We've never changed the default browser.  It's always been Konqueror.17:08
ScottKthis would be the first time.17:08
Tm_TKonqueror <317:08
shadeslayernot enough space on CD for chromium17:08
sheytanScottK well, leave it as it is. Konqueror + firefox installer ;)17:08
shadeslayeraltho... i wouldnt mind replacing the KFI for a CFI :P17:09
sheytanshadeslayer ^17:09
ScottKsheytan: I think that's likely.17:09
ScottKshadeslayer: Currently rekonq is far to crashy and upstream won't even take the bug reports.17:09
sheytanScottK Linux users know they can choose onther browser ;)17:09
RiddellScottK: I think you misjudge17:09
shadeslayerScottK: because its a problem in Qt.. as far as i can tell17:10
Riddellthey opened the "random threading crashes" bug after the 0.5 release17:10
Riddellthey didn't want to care about bugs with unreleased software before their release, which is fair enough17:10
ScottKRiddell: Not at all.  I've had my bug reports closed because I was using too new KDE/Qt.17:10
Riddelland now the "random threading crashes" problem seems to have gone away17:10
Riddelland I'm back to using it as my main browser17:10
ScottKWe've another month until Qt 4.7 releases.  Are they not going to take our bug reports then?17:11
ScottKthen/until then17:11
Riddellthey're taking them now17:11
ScottKOK.  I'll give it another try.17:13
Riddellneeds 4.5.0 to make the random crashes go away17:13
Riddellflash still isn't great though17:13
sheytanHey, i'm downloading alpha3, which version of KDE it has??17:14
shadeslayer4.517:14
Riddella release candidate of 4.517:17
shadeslayerhehe..yeah :P17:19
shadeslayerforgot about the new tarballs17:19
QuintasanRiddell: too many bugs for release? :P17:19
RiddellQuintasan: how do you mean?17:19
QuintasanRiddell: if release was pushed back17:20
shadeslayerQuintasan: still not accepted in kde-packager?17:20
Quintasanthen it means something17:20
Quintasanshadeslayer: nope17:20
shadeslayer:(17:20
Riddellsteveire: I just synced grantlee 0.1.4 from debian, so we're using their packaging now17:20
Riddellsteveire: is there any paticular need to do a backport to 10.04?17:20
shadeslayerRiddell: unless we want a patch for qtcurve..im going to request sync17:21
steveireRiddell: I was going to figure out how to do that myself :) No need now. What do you mean 'anything special' ?17:21
steveireOh, that'snot what you said17:22
steveireNo particular need, no17:22
steveireWhen is 10.10 freeze?17:23
steveireGrantlee 0.2.0 will be BiC and it would be good to get it into 10.1017:24
steveireI'll port kaddressbook and kjots to the new version of course.17:24
shadeslayerQuintasan: around ?17:26
Quintasanshadeslayer: yeah17:26
shadeslayerQuintasan: {debupstream} in a packaging recipe uses the debian version from changelog right?17:27
yofelsteveire: feature freeze for 10.10 is in a week, maybe get a FFE if it's worth it17:27
QuintasanI belive so17:27
shadeslayerweird then... https://edge.launchpad.net/~team-iquik/+archive/tools says otherwise ( look at lm-sensors )17:27
steveire0.2.0 will not be out by then anyway.17:28
steveireBackports will be ok too I think.17:28
shadeslayerQuintasan: btw will it be possible to get new packages in universe after FF?17:28
shadeslayer( brand new shiny packages :P )17:29
Quintasanafter feature freezee?17:29
shadeslayeryeah17:29
Quintasanhmm17:29
QuintasanIt is possible17:29
Quintasanbut you need FFE17:29
shadeslayerok17:29
QuintasanFeature Freeze Exception17:30
shadeslayeri know ;)17:30
shadeslayerQuintasan: it seems the recipe left out the epoch17:31
shadeslayerand thus ill have to add it manually now :/17:31
Quintasangod damn17:32
QuintasanWHOLE WEEK?17:32
QuintasanLaunchpad’s web interface will be read-only (most other aspects will be offline) for 90 minutes on August 12th while we roll-out the latest code.17:32
shadeslayerQuintasan: whut?17:32
Quintasanshadeslayer: kdelibs import fix17:32
shadeslayerwhere? 17:32
shadeslayerah :p17:32
shadeslayerRiddell: bug 61391317:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 613913 in kde-style-qtcurve (Ubuntu) "Sync kde-style-qtcurve 1.5.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61391317:39
shadeslayerbuild log attached17:40
Riddellthanks shadeslayer 17:40
shadeslayer:)17:40
shadeslayerQuintasan: does https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html open for you?17:45
shadeslayerbtw anyone of you guys coming for the Common Wealth games to india? :D18:04
shadeslayermaco: btw some good news, my uni has holidays due to CWG, and thus my 2nd minors might get postponed \o/18:40
shadeslayerso my chances of coming to UDS ( if i get selected ) have marginally increased :P18:41
Tm_TScottK: finally got it running, live session seems to work18:43
ScottKTm_T: Excellent.18:44
ScottKRiddell: ^^^ enough testing for an Alpha 3 release on powerpc?18:45
shadeslayerScottK: lol18:46
ScottKNo, serious.18:47
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I do not consider bug 613838 normal in any situation19:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 613838 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "Password dialogs open in full screen windows in Kubuntu Maverick Alpha 3" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61383819:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: your on maverick or lucid?19:13
apacheloggermav19:14
shadeslayeri need people who are on lucid ... 19:14
apacheloggerhow so?19:14
shadeslayerreagrding bug 60327619:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 603276 in lucid-backports "Please backport kraft-0.40-1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60327619:14
shadeslayerMamarok: ^19:14
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: should be upstream, anyways19:15
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that I agree with ^^19:15
ScottKapachelogger: Was that on netbook or desktop?19:15
apacheloggernetbook19:15
apacheloggersee screenshot19:16
ScottKClicking is too much work.19:16
ScottKDefinitely worth an upstream bug.19:16
apacheloggerlol19:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: just get a lucid vm?19:16
shadeslayerim lazy :P19:16
shadeslayerand i have no lucid ISO19:17
apacheloggerisnt there crazy script magic that does the setup automatically? :P19:17
ScottKBTW, I'm fixing up kubutu-meta so kubuntu-netbook is a transitional package for kubuntu-desktop and ripped out all the netbook stuff.19:17
ScottKI'm also ripping out sparc while I'm at it.19:17
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ScottKDone.19:33
debfxupstream kde doesn't support X-KDE-RootOnly for KCMs, right?19:51
CIA-98[ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100805185159-mu162x9x2xatqtnb * cmake/modules/FindGNOMEKeyring.cmake add gnomekeyring finder19:52
shadeslayerRiddell: qtcurve sync'd :D19:54
debfxboth?19:54
shadeslayerdebfx: both? 19:55
shadeslayerthere are 2 of them? :O19:55
shadeslayerbug 61391319:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 613913 in kde-style-qtcurve (Ubuntu) "Sync kde-style-qtcurve 1.5.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61391319:55
debfxindeed19:55
shadeslayerwhats the other source called?19:55
debfxgtk2-engines-qtcurve19:55
shadeslayerill do this quickly before i sleep then19:56
CIA-98[libqapt] jmthomas * 1159604 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.h cache.h package.h) apidox polish19:58
JontheEchidnadebfx: right, we have a patch that launches them in a root'd kcmshell419:58
CIA-98[ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100805185926-j35h135st3teahhu * src/plugins/CMakeLists.txt make gnome-keyring support conditional to the presence of gnomekeyring and glib219:59
debfxJontheEchidna: weird, the upstream login screen kcm contains a X-KDE-RootOnly line20:00
apacheloggerwhatever happend to novell's bandit I wonder20:00
JontheEchidnadebfx: yeah, that bit went upstream though, for some reason20:01
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: because it was the truth :P20:01
debfxcan anyone confirm that kate displays "?" icons for all documents?20:10
shadeslayerdebfx: bug 61397420:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 613974 in gtk2-engines-qtcurve (Ubuntu) "Sync gtk2-engines-qtcurve 1.5.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61397420:10
CIA-98[libqapt] jmthomas * 1159607 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) Use qint64 since in theory you can have packages bigger than what qint32 can store20:11
ulyssesJontheEchidna: back from holiday?20:11
JontheEchidnahttp://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopgm153820:11
JontheEchidnaulysses: nope, just kickin' back and relaxing at the hotel20:11
JontheEchidnaand I apparently relax by writing APi documentation :D20:11
ulyssesI'm going to the beach soon20:12
JontheEchidnadebfx: oh, that pic was in response to your question20:12
* ulysses on holiday also20:12
JontheEchidnaulysses: btw, did you see that typo fix that I sent the mail to kde-i18n-doc about?20:12
JontheEchidnaI think it's the one you had mentioned20:12
ulyssesJontheEchidna: nope, I didn't subscribe that list, I'll do then20:12
debfxshadeslayer: thanks :)20:12
shadeslayer:)20:12
ulyssesJontheEchidna: I found typo in the translation, that was my fault:)20:13
JontheEchidnaulysses: ah, but I had a typo where I said "this package does have" instead of "does not have"20:13
JontheEchidnabig difference ;)20:13
ulysseshm, maybe I've seen it20:14
ulyssessomebody working on Muon's documentation?20:17
JontheEchidnajjesse was working on the english docs20:17
ulyssesI couldn't write bout Kubuntu Maverick alpha 3 release, I'm on holiday with mobile internet:(20:18
ulyssesoh, the laptop going down, goodbye20:21
JontheEchidnabye20:22
JontheEchidnahttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/muon20:28
JontheEchidnaneeds libdebconf-kde, which is in new queue20:28
JontheEchidnais there any way to give bug 609247 any more gas?20:30
apacheloggerdang20:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 609247 in qapt (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qapt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60924720:30
apacheloggerthese kubuntu devs even include a gfdl20:30
JontheEchidnamoo.ogg is GFDL'd ;)20:30
apacheloggerthat does not mean that one knows gfdl must be distributed along the source :P20:31
apacheloggeryou have an empty doc dir btw20:31
JontheEchidnagenerated by kapptemplate20:31
JontheEchidnaonce jjesse is done it won't be empty :D20:32
JontheEchidnabbl20:32
apacheloggerhm20:32
apacheloggerI really think MuonStrings should be relicensed to fit in with the rest20:33
apacheloggerpoor thing sticks out ^^20:33
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: no homepage? :(20:33
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I would not describe the license as "GPL-3 or later" though20:36
apacheloggermore like "GPL-2 | GPL-3+ (if accepted by membership of KDE e.V."20:37
Quintasangod damn those licenses20:38
QuintasanJontheEchidna: go with WTFPL20:38
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: the package description overuses the word support a bit IMHO20:39
Quintasanapachelogger: We must let users know we provide support :P20:40
debfxJontheEchidna: spotted the error, the kate package doesn't install null.png anymore20:44
debfxmy next question would be: why does kate need an icon to not display an icon ^^20:44
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100805194850-jh98a7o682ox6x01 * src/ (8 files in 3 dirs) cleanup++20:49
apacheloggerQuintasan: not that usage of the word20:49
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100805195252-sfq0kdqxyetydadi * src/ (3 files in 2 dirs) more shares api20:53
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: yeah, I gutted the whole .cpp that I got it from, but forgot to relicense/recopyright20:55
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100805200325-3ye0xzs4y3tee9yi * src/libs/ (Share.cpp Share.h SyncDaemonShares.cpp) streamline string2Share::Type && string2Share::Access (and vice versa of course)21:03
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100805200721-i687fjnar6k3xvoi * src/libs/introspection/com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.xml properly use UbuntuOne::Share21:07
CIA-98[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100805201850-2lfefr96fmd0pk8u * src/kcmodule/Messages.sh also use them nice .ui strings21:19
blueyedwhen will 4.5.0 land in the "official"/open ppa?23:25
debfxblueyed: for lucid?23:29
blueyedyes23:29
blueyedbackports/beta ppa that is23:30
debfxI guess as soon as it's released23:31
blueyedok, good enough :)23:32
debfxmaverick is already pretty stable though :)23:32
blueyedyeah, maybe it will let me actually burn DVDs maybe (found that regression yesterday).23:33
blueyedI might upgrade on the weekend.23:33
blueyed(although I'm finally enjoying some stable release this time for a bit longer)23:33
debfxdon't you miss the occasional breakage? ;)23:40
debfxJontheEchidna: the changelog fetching code seems a bit broken in muon23:41
debfxJontheEchidna: when you switch between packages very fast it sometimes reads the wrong changelog file and some temp files aren't deleted23:46
debfxJontheEchidna: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/muon/muon_changelog_fetch.patch should be better23:49

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