[00:00] <fidelix> Doesnt work either
[00:00] <fidelix> dude, i'll kill myself
[00:04] <well_laid_lawn> I had to go to the front door
[00:04] <well_laid_lawn> fidelix: ?
[00:04] <well_laid_lawn> !
[00:05] <fidelix> I'm setting the rope.
[00:05] <fidelix> what?
[00:05] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[00:05] <fidelix> hehehe
[00:06] <well_laid_lawn> I moved to archlinux to get away from things like pulse - maybe someone else has an idea...
[00:10] <OrnateHybrid> God
[00:11] <OrnateHybrid> That was terrible
[00:11] <OrnateHybrid> Being in an IRC with a bunch of mac fanboys
[00:14] <hawkI> How many video cards can I put in a kubuntu system? (Looking to run 3 monitors)
[00:16] <well_laid_lawn> one onboard or agp/pci-e and as many pci cards as you have slots afaik
[00:16] <well_laid_lawn> that is   pci
[00:55] <Attilo> hola
[00:58]  * hawkI leans over the open chassis
[00:59] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[01:00] <hawkI> 6 PCI slots and 1 AGP. 4 open PCi slots, 1 video card in the AGP slot.
[01:01] <hawkI> How many can be used as one virtual display at the same time?
[01:04] <well_laid_lawn> you can setup all that you have to be one display - one of 'em or ten
[01:05] <well_laid_lawn> you need a device and monitor section for each and tell where you want them positioned
[01:05] <well_laid_lawn> http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[01:05] <well_laid_lawn> the bottom half is the xorg.conf file setup stuff
[01:50] <NajaHaje> Hi everyone
[01:51] <NajaHaje> I have a little problem
[01:52] <NajaHaje> I run NoScript with firefox 3.6.8, and i have no sound when he block a script
[01:53] <well_laid_lawn> maybe someone in #mozilla will know...?
[01:53] <NajaHaje> The path for block.wav file is supposed to be: chrome://noscript/skin/block.wav
[01:54] <NajaHaje> wait, i think that is a kde problem
[02:12] <OrnateHybrid> I <3 NetBeans
[02:13] <Guest11331> does anybody's rekonq browser, Arora browser, or Konqueror with webkit crash?
[02:13] <Guest11331> anything that uses webkit crashes on mine
[02:14] <OrnateHybrid> I don't use any of those browsers
[02:14] <OrnateHybrid> I use Firefox
[02:14] <Guest11331> for some reason, those browsers crash on mine
[02:15] <Guest11331> i even done reinstall of system, and done the same, and ive seen people use it succesfully
[02:15] <Guest11331> but iam using firefox until i fix this
[02:17] <OrnateHybrid> I find Firefox to be a very stable and versatile browser
[02:18] <Guest11331> i know it is, but i also like webkit for its speed, also. and i want to test rekonq, because i heard it could be default web browser for kubuntu 10.10
[02:18] <Guest11331> to see if i like it
[02:18] <sea4ever> Hi, is there any tool that I can use to configure upstart scripts?
[02:18] <OrnateHybrid> I've never been a fan of any default browsers
[02:18] <OrnateHybrid> Especially IE -shudders-
[02:19] <Guest11331> i know on windows i never use it for any reason
[02:19] <Guest11331> i definitely dont use konqueror on kubuntu either
[02:20] <Guest11331> have you ever tried konqueror?
[02:21] <OrnateHybrid> I did
[02:21] <OrnateHybrid> I didn't like it terribly much
[02:21] <Guest11331> they need to improve KHTML before i ever use it
[02:21] <sea4ever> Oh wait nevermind I found something.
[02:22] <Guest11331> yahoo mail is messed up on konqueror, so is almost everything else
[02:22] <Guest11331> so is youtube
[02:41] <husam> hey
[02:41] <husam> is anyone here?
[02:42] <OrnateHybrid> No
[02:42] <husam> for real
[02:42] <husam> i have a proplem :S
[02:42] <OrnateHybrid> Well
[02:42] <OrnateHybrid> You can ask me your question
[02:42] <OrnateHybrid> But chances are
[02:42] <OrnateHybrid> I won't he answer is
[02:42] <FloodBotK1> OrnateHybrid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:42] <OrnateHybrid> Regardless
[02:42] <OrnateHybrid> Ask your question
[02:42] <OrnateHybrid> I'll do my best
[02:43] <husam> when i start my pc
[02:43] <husam> with kubuntu
[02:43] <husam> it opens
[02:43] <husam> but first time i installed it
[02:43] <FloodBotK1> husam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <husam> the loading image had a good quality, now it have very bad quality its like low resolution
[02:43] <husam> got it?
[02:44] <OrnateHybrid> Hmm
[02:44] <OrnateHybrid> Try going into your system settings
[02:44] <OrnateHybrid> and changing the load image
[02:44] <OrnateHybrid> to see if that effects anything
[02:44] <husam> not the one after login
[02:44] <husam> the one before
[02:44] <OrnateHybrid> The one before
[02:44] <OrnateHybrid> There is one before login?
[02:44] <OrnateHybrid> Usually I don't watch my computer startup
[02:46] <husam> mh
[02:46] <husam> i think i found an answer
[02:47] <husam> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5020690&postcount=3
[02:47] <husam> but for ubuntu :S
[02:47] <FloodBotK1> husam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:47] <OrnateHybrid> Ubuntu and Kubuntu are nearly identical
[02:47] <OrnateHybrid> all that is different
[02:47] <OrnateHybrid> is the DE
[02:48] <NajaHaje> Hey guy, what media player should i download ?
[02:48] <Guest11331> husam: did you install proprieority driver for graphics card?
[02:48] <OrnateHybrid> Windows Media Player For Teh Lulz
[02:48] <husam> yes
[02:49] <Guest11331> when i installed mine, it does that
[02:49] <husam> i found boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:49] <Guest11331> its where python doesnt support resolution the graphics card driver supports i think
[02:49] <husam> i mean a answer about changing that menu
[02:49] <husam> but i dont have anything like boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:49] <husam> :S
[03:38] <rosco_y> Is there a way to make a widget appear on all desktops?  (i.e., a clock)
[03:39] <rosco_y> (all virtual desktops, that is)
[03:40] <rosco_y> I would put a clock and the pastbin widget on all desktops, if I could....
[03:43] <wastrel> linux
[06:58] <EddieV223> test
[06:59] <zess> test :)
[07:34] <dylan_hrayka> i installed kubuntu inside winidows using wubi, is there a way to access the files on the windows  partion ?
[08:08] <skafti> hi
[08:09] <skafti> like an idiod here just installed kubuntu trying to make things work, cant get flash player working some genious here that can tip me
[08:10] <skafti> or shouldnt i be here asking noobee questions
[08:13] <well_laid_lawn> !gnash
[08:30] <euphorial> skafti, In general, you can make Flash work just fine but using "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:30] <euphorial> without quotes
[08:30] <euphorial> Then restart browser(s), preferably using firefox.
[08:31] <euphorial> If that doesn't work, I can't help you. But good luck :)
[08:35] <skafti> thanx
[08:44] <skafti> thanks alot it worked
[08:45] <well_laid_lawn> euphorial: ^^
[08:46] <euphorial> no problem.
[08:46] <euphorial> well_laid_lawn, 'lo.
[08:46] <well_laid_lawn> gday :] euphorial
[08:46] <euphorial> Indeed ;). How are you?
[08:48] <well_laid_lawn> always good :)
[08:53] <skafti> what is the best videoplayer with kubuntu ? VLC maybe
[08:54] <euphorial> good good
[08:54] <euphorial> skafti, just use "Movie Player".
[08:55] <euphorial> K Launcher -> Applications --> Multimedia ---> "Movie Player".
[08:57] <euphorial> skafti, it will get the job done. I use it for all videos, but if there are other things you need just check out more.
[08:58] <skafti> hm not installed
[08:59] <euphorial> skafti, do you have any avi, mov, mpeg, etc, files?
[09:00] <euphorial> skafti, double click one, and it will open a player, and might even ask you to download some extra utilities and what not.
[09:00] <skafti> haha just stripped my computer
[09:00] <skafti> finally had enough of win
[09:00] <euphorial> It took you until 2010?
[09:01] <euphorial> bahaha, I'm joshing. It's always good to get a convert no matter how it was obtained.
[09:01] <euphorial> :-P
[09:01] <skafti> had problem with player just now inserted a dvd and got an autoplay but did not offer to use vlc
[09:03] <euphorial> skafti, unless the default problems give you trouble, I would just stick with them.
[09:03] <skafti> yep think youŕe right
[09:03] <euphorial> skafti, unless, like I've said, you need different options.. then you can "sudo synaptic" and when it loads type "movie player" or something to that effect in the search area.
[10:43] <Punnya> #staff
[11:58] <greenmang0> hello friends, i am using amarok 2.3.1 on kubuntu 10.04.... amarok's moodbar isn't working for me... any solution?
[12:15] <jtheuer> find the error
[12:23] <thomasfuston> is there any reason why kopete cant connect to msn?
[12:28] <ArGGu^^> thomasfuston have tried other clients?
[12:28] <ArGGu^^> *have you
[12:28] <thomasfuston> ArGGu^^: i tried, pidgin working with no problem, empathy too, so its a kopete problem other networks work without a problem
[12:29] <thomasfuston> only wlm (aka msn) not working but i dont see a reason, or what i could do to fix that
[12:40] <ArGGu^^> thomasfuston check that pidgin is not connecting with http method
[12:40] <ArGGu^^> kopete might not support it
[12:41] <Hazamonzo_> dang it... why when i try to sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart i get a list of the Usage options...?
[12:42] <ArGGu^^> Hazamonzo_ try sudo service apache2 restart
[12:43] <Hazamonzo_> ArGGu^^: Ahh thank you that worked fine
[12:43] <ArGGu^^> thomasfuston if pidgin is not using http method then I dont know what is the problem
[12:43] <Hazamonzo_> Can you tell me what i did so i can understand better in the future?
[12:44] <ArGGu^^> but if it is then msn clients cannot connect from 1863 port
[12:45] <thomasfuston> ArGGu^^: thx for the answer, something is up with kopete, if i connect with kmess it works too, try to connect with kopete again disconnects kmess, so some transfer with the msn server must happen, well... will search on for a solution
[12:46] <ArGGu^^> Hazamonzo_ the service command is just a command to manage daemons
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:32] <thomasfuston> got another short question added, the kde ppa, and done an "sudo apt-get upgrade" there are 6 packages kept back, after i done a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" they still kept back, what can i do to install them?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> thomasfuston, are just upgrading kde or the whole distro ?
[13:37] <thomasfuston> BluesKaj: i just want to upgrade to the newese kde SC
[13:37] <thomasfuston> +t
[13:38] <jussi> thomasfuston: you did of course run sudo apt-get update ?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> thomasfuston, 4.5 RC ?
[13:40] <thomasfuston> jussi: i did, i upgraded some packages, but well this 6 packages not able to upgrade dunnow why
[13:40] <thomasfuston> BluesKaj: no i just using 4.4.2 but want 4.4.4
[13:43] <BluesKaj> thomasfuston, depending on your HW and installed apps , however you really should check this page first,http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4.5.php
[13:47] <thomasfuston> BluesKaj: well i tried now an usual "sudo apt-get install package-name", but some depends not ok, but when i try to install the depends stuff, it tells me thats already the newest version
[13:52] <BluesKaj> thomasfuston, that's the problem with early adoption of a RC , not all dependencies are met . personally i don't understand the hurry to install an unstable desktop environment
[13:54] <BluesKaj> thomasfuston, perhaps #kde can help
[13:55] <thomasfuston> BluesKaj: well, but 4.4.5 should be unstable huh?
[13:55] <thomasfuston> shouldnt
[13:56] <BluesKaj> well, if it has unmet dependencies ...then what would one call it?
[14:05] <aguja85> in what path should i install jdk?
[14:06] <James147> aguja85: how are you installing it?
[14:06] <aguja85> i downloaded the .bin file from the web
[14:07] <Pici> Is there a reason you aren't using the package in the repositories?
[14:07] <James147> aguja85: isnt the one in the partener repos good enough?
[14:09] <James147> aguja85: if not whats the default location it suggests?
[14:09] <aguja85> yes, im at work hehe
[14:11] <aguja85> not my decision
[14:12] <James147> aguja85: if you at work (i am guessing no root then) then you will have to install it somewhere in your home directory
[14:12] <James147> aguja85: the exact location dosnt matter that much as long as you add the path to the binaray files to the PATH varible
[14:12] <aguja85> ok thanks
[14:45] <moscowman> hi
[14:46] <moscowman> what a hell is with my process????
[14:46] <moscowman> mount.ntfs
[14:46] <moscowman> 2555 root      20   0  3808 1132  600 R 77.5  0.1   2:45.39 mount.ntfs
[14:46] <moscowman> 77.5% !!!  CPU
[14:47] <moscowman> Should I kill him ?
[14:48] <moscowman> fuck!   I killed torrent
[15:11] <glaucous> Is there a Dropbox repository for Kubuntu?
[15:20] <glaucous> Never mind, found it
[15:37] <Vein> Hi
[15:38] <BluesKaj> hmm, just installed kde 4.4.5 from the launchpad ppa on 3 kubuntu lucid pcs without a hitch..quite surprised :)
[15:39] <BluesKaj> laptop,server and my old den desktop pc
[15:40] <James147> BluesKaj: do you normally have problems with maintenance releases ?
[15:40] <Vein> I need documentation about all command in konsole
[15:41] <James147> Vein: ^^
[15:41] <BluesKaj> James147, only if I do an early adoption , but this kde is obviously stable so I'm happy , so far :)\
[15:41] <James147> Vein: ls /bin; ls /sbin; ls /usr/bin; ls /usr/sbin     will list all the commands
[15:42] <James147> Vein: then "man <command>"  will give you more info about that command... or for a shorter help "<command> --help"
[15:42] <James147> Vein: otherwise look for a tutorial on bash commands
[15:44] <Vein> ok thanx ! Do you know a command to check-up my laptop stats, temparature, energy, etc ?
[15:45] <James147> Vein: battery info can be obtained by "cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/*"
[15:45] <Vein> nice
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Vein, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-laptop-battery-status-temperature/
[15:46] <Vein> :)
[15:47] <James147> BluesKaj: heh, same page I found after I gave that command :)
[15:48] <BluesKaj> James147, good page :)
[15:56] <luis> hello good day to you all i am having problems with an upgrade i use kubuntu 8.04 and the system is telling me to do an update but then i got this: http://pastebin.com/mtDjCDBi
[15:58] <luis> and every time i run apt-get update keeps saying that can you help me to solve this problem please???
[16:01] <BluesKaj> luis, are you running 8.04 or 9.04 ?
[16:02] <matrixx> luis: this might help you to proceed: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey
[16:02] <luis> 8.04
[16:02] <James147> luis: then why are you using a jaunty ppa?
[16:03] <luis> i don't
[16:03] <luis> the system is asking for an update
[16:03] <luis> but i got in trobles then i run that in terminal and i found that
[16:04] <James147> luis: update, or distro upgrade?
[16:05] <luis> update
[16:05] <luis> i go sudo apt-get update and then i got that
[16:07] <BluesKaj> luis , run lsb_release -a
[16:08] <luis> it says ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS, release 8.04 codename hardy
[16:08] <luis> look the update manager asked last night for an update
[16:08] <luis> so i did
[16:08] <luis> then my pc got stock
[16:09] <luis> i retsrart it and then run in terminal sudo apt-get update and i got that, and i can't fixe it
[16:09] <James147> luis: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:09] <luis> ok
[16:09] <matrixx> ah it was 8.04, ok, forget my link, it doesn't help :)
[16:10] <luis> http://pastebin.com/rEbdS1SC
[16:10] <luis> oh wait
[16:10] <luis> ois not that
[16:12] <luis> keeps telling me PERMISSION DENIED
[16:12] <luis> and i am running as root
[16:12] <James147> luis: running what?
[16:13] <luis> the one you gave me /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:14] <James147> luis: its not a script, its a file, i want the contents :)
[16:14] <matrixx> luis: open it in nano or something :)
[16:15] <James147> luis: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" or open it wiht a text editor
[16:15] <luis> ok
[16:17] <BluesKaj> I'll bet he upgraded an app with a newer OS/ppa version
[16:18] <matrixx> highly possible
[16:20] <luis> http://pastebin.com/gvLXxauY
[16:20] <luis> thats the one
[16:21] <matrixx> luis: easy fix: remove the last two rows
[16:21] <James147> luis: matrixx: ^^ comment them out rather then remove them
[16:21] <matrixx> goes as well and is safer :)
[16:21] <matrixx> hmm, gwibber-daily
[16:22] <matrixx> found the guilty software :P
[16:22] <luis> ok
[16:23] <luis> ok
[16:23] <luis> how do i comment them?
[16:23] <James147> luis: add a # to the start of the line
[16:23] <luis> ok
[16:23] <luis> just the last 2 lines right?
[16:23] <James147> luis: yeah
[16:23] <matrixx> should be enough
[16:24] <luis> let me see
[16:24] <James147> luis: you also might want to consider upgrading to a later version of kubuntu, 8.04 is quite old now
[16:25] <luis> i can't
[16:25] <luis> i did once but my pc crashed
[16:25] <BluesKaj> luis the last 2 lines look to update in jaunty , not hardy , you nedd to delete them
[16:25] <luis> i think because my pc is old
[16:25] <luis> ok
[16:25] <BluesKaj> luis , how old?
[16:25] <luis> like 6 years or so
[16:26] <James147> luis: do you knwo its specs?
[16:26] <luis> yes
[16:26] <luis> let you know
[16:26] <luis> just a min
[16:26] <BluesKaj> luis, mine is 5 and runs lucid just fine , so you might consider upgrading
[16:27] <luis> i can't
[16:27] <luis> for some reason this machine won't handle any recent distro
[16:27] <James147> luis: you might want to try some live cds of the latest version...
[16:27] <luis> and believe me i have try several and it just can't handle it
[16:27] <James147> luis: then you might want to consider trying xubuntu
[16:28] <luis> i recently try the latest that was last week and my pc won't even run the live c
[16:28] <luis> i try kubuntu ubuntu and xubuntu and none of them run not even as live cd
[16:28] <luis> firts thing happens is that io don't see anything at my screen it goes black
[16:29] <luis> and stays that way
[16:29] <BluesKaj> luis , do you think youcould handle an alternate install , it uses a live cd but it's light and bit more hands on to use
[16:30] <luis> wich one?
[16:30] <[mors]> hello !
[16:30] <luis> let me tell you
[16:30] <BluesKaj> depends which OS/version you to upgrade to
[16:30] <BluesKaj> want
[16:30] <[mors]> how do I tell kde to hide the mouse cursor when I'm typing ?
[16:31] <luis> last week i try to install the lates ubuntu and also kubtuntu and xubuntu the tree of them to see, but then evrything seemed to be just fine, but at the time i restarted my pc when i suppouse to see my desktop i only got a black screen
[16:32] <luis> in any of those distros
[16:32] <luis> and then i try the alternate cd
[16:33] <blackxored> i've installed compiz-kde, now i want to switch wm on default apps, it stills says can't start wm and reverts? what i'm missing?
[16:34] <eagles0513875> hey luis and blackxored
[16:34] <eagles0513875> whoops meant BluesKaj
[16:34] <BluesKaj> hehe
[16:34] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: mind filling me in on luis' situation
[16:34] <luis> the only one i runs almost ok is kubuntu but the thing is it wont show networkmanager and it's important because it doesn't recognize my internet conecction, also my screen resolution keeps changing everytime i restart the computer, so i couldnt leave it because of those issues ooh something else it won't let me change anything on the sound, like configure it to the way i like
[16:35] <luis> i mean kubuntu the latest
[16:35] <eagles0513875> luis: is this on a laptop or desktop
[16:35] <luis> desktop
[16:35] <luis> don't liek laptops are more problematic lol
[16:35] <luis> like*
[16:35] <eagles0513875> ok lol
[16:35] <BluesKaj> he's running hardy and we think he should upgrade , I'm thinking karmic, eagles0513875
[16:36] <eagles0513875> well network manager does show there might be a few tweaks that you might need to do to get the network connection working
[16:36] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: humm why karmic and not lucid
[16:36] <BluesKaj> 6 yr old pc
[16:36] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: he seems to have tried lucid and it works with a few minor issues of screen resolution and sound
[16:37] <James147> BluesKaj: if the pc cant handel lucid, i dont see why it would handel karmic... kde is only getting faster
[16:37] <luis> uuug not at all with karmic my computer won't even start
[16:37] <BluesKaj> luis do you have your data backed up ?
[16:37] <eagles0513875> luis: also instead of network manager i use the interfaces script
[16:37] <luis> yes
[16:37] <eagles0513875> luis: the go lucid
[16:37] <luis> ok
[16:37] <luis> i also love to upgrade
[16:38] <luis> but those are some of the issues i have found and that's why i cannot upgrade to the newest
[16:38] <luis> but i am willing to give another try
[16:38] <luis> i love kubuntu
[16:38] <eagles0513875> luis: networking can usually be solved by using the /etc/network/interfaces file and resolv.conf files if u have problems with network manager
[16:38] <luis> xubuntu is not nice at all
[16:38] <eagles0513875> resolution isnt much of a problem to fix
[16:38] <luis> ubuntu is to heavy for my pc it slow it down a lot
[16:38] <BluesKaj> I suggested the alternate cd , because it worked with my 5yr old pc when the lucid live cd didn't
[16:38] <James147> luis: so your not having problems starting kubuntu lucid? its having some issues inside it?
[16:38] <eagles0513875> luis: xfce (xubuntu) = stripped down version of gnome
[16:39] <eagles0513875> James147: pretty much
[16:39] <luis> i can run it
[16:39] <James147> eagles0513875: he mentioned eailer only getting a black desktop when trying it :S
[16:39] <luis> but like i sais my screen reso keeps chaging back
[16:39] <luis> it won't stay the way it should
[16:39] <eagles0513875> James147: resolution changes
[16:39] <luis> the sound won't let me configure
[16:40] <luis> and something elese
[16:40] <eagles0513875> luis: usually the resolution issue is fixed after installing video card driver
[16:40] <luis> but if you think we can work around i'll be happy to try it
[16:40] <James147> luis: well, those problems you mentions dont look unsolvable :) we should beable to work through them one at a time
[16:41] <luis> ok
[16:41] <luis> so what do i do now
[16:41] <luis> should i got for the upgrade version?
[16:41] <James147> luis: first thing would be to get on the new version if you ahvent already
[16:41] <luis> what do you mean?
[16:41] <eagles0513875> luis: he means the iso
[16:42] <luis> like a live cd?
[16:42] <luis> o have it just got it last week
[16:42] <BluesKaj> luis, ok what about your data , do you have it saved somewhere or do you have separate / and /home partitions?
[16:42] <luis> yeah i do
[16:42] <luis> i need to save those first
[16:43]  * James147 is going to get some food while luis backs up :)
[16:45] <eagles0513875> ill be back
[16:51] <luis> sorry
[16:51] <luis> i am back
[16:51] <luis> is done
[16:51] <luis> now the one that i have is Kubuntu-1.04-LTS
[16:53] <luis> so i just go and installe it guys?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> luis, yes Lucid 10.04 LTS (Long Term Support) , alternate ?
[16:53] <luis> my data has been saved
[16:54] <luis> ok
[16:54] <luis> then i will come bakc in about 30 minutes
[16:54] <luis> as soon as this finish installing it
[16:54] <BluesKaj> is it the alternate or live cd?
[16:54] <luis> is the live cd
[16:55] <luis> see you in 30 minutes
[16:55] <BluesKaj> ok, good luck luis
[16:55] <luis> that sounded spooky
[16:55] <luis> lol
[16:55] <luis> brb
[17:05] <RelookNA> hi
[17:07] <RelookNA> kpack , adept, synapt  ....which do I use?
[17:08] <James147> RelookNA: kpackagekit
[17:08] <RelookNA> tks james
[17:09] <James147> RelookNA: adept is kde 3.5, synaptic is gnome...  although you can use them if you really want to (adept might be ahrder to get hold of)
[17:11] <BluesKaj> despite the gtk thing , I still prefer synaptic :)
[17:13] <BluesKaj> bbl..lunch
[17:13] <RelookNA> I somehow have all 3 here in my menu , but I was conciously trying to stick with kpack (because it has  a 'k')   :)
[17:15] <James147> RelookNA: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[17:15] <[mors]> what's the command line to lock my workstation ?
[17:17] <James147> [mors]: alt+ctrl+L should do it, dont know about a command line method
[17:18] <[mors]> it works thanks
[17:19] <[mors]> but "qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock" works too
[17:22] <stryjan> anyone knows where do I put .qch files so that they are seen by Kdevelop4?
[17:28] <Khaotic> List of devices attached
[17:28] <Khaotic> HT9B8HF02242    device
[17:28] <Khaotic> stephon@Laptop:~/Desktop/android-sdk-linux_86/tools$ fdisk /dev/HT9B8HF02242
[17:28] <Khaotic> Unable to open /dev/HT9B8HF02242
[17:28] <FloodBotK2> Khaotic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <Khaotic> whats wrong with that?
[17:29] <James147> Khaotic: sudo?
[17:29] <Khaotic> still unable to open
[17:30] <James147> Khaotic: sudo fdisk /dev/HT9B8HF02242    give same error?
[17:30] <Khaotic> says unable to open
[17:30] <James147> Khaotic: what is HT9B8HF02242 ?
[17:30] <Khaotic> my phone's sdcard
[17:30] <Khaotic> android
[17:31] <James147> Khaotic: any reason you are trying to fdisk it...?
[17:31] <Khaotic> to see if it is partitioned
[17:31] <James147> Khaotic: sorry, are you tring through the phone or through an adaptor?
[17:31] <Khaotic> through adb shell
[17:31] <Khaotic> android
[17:32] <e_t_> Khaotic: What is the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[17:32] <James147> Khaotic: dose android sheel have sudo?
[17:32] <James147> shell
[17:32] <Khaotic> stephon@Laptop:~/Desktop/android-sdk-linux_86/tools$ ./adb shell
[17:32] <Khaotic> sh-3.2# su fdisk /dev/HT9B8HF02242
[17:32] <Khaotic> Permission denied
[17:32] <Khaotic> here1sh-3.2# fdisk /dev/HT9B8HF02242
[17:32] <Khaotic> Illegal instruction
[17:32] <FloodBotK2> Khaotic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <James147> Khaotic: have you rooted your phone?
[17:33] <Khaotic> yes
[17:33] <James147> Khaotic: cant you plug the sdcard into a computer? would make things allot easier
[17:34] <Khaotic> i cant :(
[17:34] <e_t_> Khaotic: you can't do "su fdisk". Su is used to log in as another user. Su fdisk is trying to log into the fdisk user, which does not exist. Call su by itself to become root, then give your command.
[17:35] <Khaotic> sh-3.2# su
[17:35] <Khaotic> sh-3.2# fdisk /dev/HT9B8HF02242
[17:35] <Khaotic> Illegal instruction
[17:36] <e_t_> Did you try "fdisk -l"?
[17:38] <Khaotic> no
[17:38] <Torch> Khaotic: would you mind a lot doing it?
[17:40] <Khaotic> ill try
[17:40] <Khaotic> and for whatever reason wont mount as a storage
[17:46] <James147> Khaotic: what exactly is the point in this?
[17:48] <stryjan> anyone knows where do I put .qch files so that they are seen by Kdevelop4?
[17:48] <luis> hey there
[17:48] <luis>  i am back
[17:48] <James147> luis: welcome back, it go alright?
[17:48] <luis> ok here is the think
[17:48] <luis> thing*
[17:49] <luis> i just install Kubuntu -9.04 because the newest is with the one i got a black screen
[17:49] <luis> but is there any way to get the newest and not getting that black screen?
[17:49] <James147> BluesKaj: ping
[17:50] <James147> luis: what graphics card do you have?
[17:50] <luis> i don't know
[17:50] <James147> and when dose the screen go black?
[17:50] <luis> how do i find that?
[17:51] <luis> trhe screen goes black as son as it start i know it started because of the music but never get to see the screen
[17:51] <James147> luis: lspci | grep VGA    tell you anything?
[17:54] <luis> my graphic card is Intel Corporation 82845G/GL{Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[18:01] <nullsem> hello i have a bit of a problem removing gnome
[18:01] <nullsem> i have recenty installed ubuntu 10.04 with native gnome
[18:01] <James147> !purekde | nullsem
[18:02] <luis> so is there any solution or no?
[18:02] <James147> luis: looks like a problem with the graphics driver, looking for a solution
[18:03] <luis> i see
[18:03] <luis> so is ot going to be possible
[18:03] <nullsem> thnx i'll try that
[18:03] <luis> or is there a way to get the drivers and install them? i don't think so right? since i can't see the screen
[18:03] <James147> luis: it might be possible...
[18:03] <luis> how?
[18:04] <luis> just install it and got to shell prompt and do something in there?
[18:04] <James147> luis: see if you can get into a vertual console (try with the live cd) press "Alt+ctrl+F1" to switch to one
[18:04] <luis> ok
[18:05]  * BluesKaj searches
[18:05] <luis> let me se i' ll be right back
[18:06] <nullsem> well there is not a command batch for 10.04 so it fails to find some packages
[18:06] <nullsem> does any1 have any other guides i can look into?
[18:07] <James147> BluesKaj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Intel%208xx%20X%20freezes/crashes   << dosnt look nice :S
[18:11] <James147> BluesKaj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes  I would think one of these should work when he comes abck
[18:15] <Khaotic> stephon@Laptop:~/Desktop/android-sdk-linux_86/tools$ sudo fdisk /media/disk
[18:15] <Khaotic> [sudo] password for stephon:
[18:15] <Khaotic> last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755
[18:15] <Khaotic> You will not be able to write the partition table.
[18:15] <Khaotic> Unable to read /media/disk
[18:15] <FloodBotK2> Khaotic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <James147> Khaotic: fdisk on device files, not mount points
[18:16] <James147> Khaotic: also you should not fdisk mounted drive
[18:16] <James147> s
[18:16] <Khaotic> i wanna see if i have it partitioned
[18:16] <James147> Khaotic: pastebin the output of "mount"
[18:17] <Khaotic> http://www.khaoticirc.net/pastebin.php?page=view&id=42
[18:17] <James147> Khaotic: or rather, you should be able to run "sudo fdisk -l"   which will print the partition talbes
[18:18] <Khaotic> idk which is my phone mount
[18:18] <James147> Khaotic: ^^ "/dev/sdd on /media/disk type vfat"  sdd is mounted suggest its a filesystem directly on the drive, no partitions.
[18:18] <luis> ok i am back
[18:19] <luis> and yes i can
[18:19] <Khaotic> ?
[18:19] <James147> luis: found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[18:19] <luis> after pressing alt+ctrl+F
[18:20] <James147> Khaotic: I am guessing that /media/disk is the mount point of the driveyou want to see if its partitioned?
[18:20] <Khaotic> yeah
[18:21] <Khaotic> Disk /dev/sdd: 7200 MB, 7200999936 bytes
[18:21] <Khaotic> 222 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1021 cylinders
[18:21] <Khaotic> Units = cylinders of 13764 * 512 = 7047168 bytes
[18:21] <Khaotic> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:21] <Khaotic> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:21] <FloodBotK2> Khaotic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <Khaotic> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[18:21] <James147> Khaotic: then according to the output of mount you pasted, the device file for /media/disk is /dev/sdd... (the lack of a 1, 2.. etc after it suggests there are no partition on it) but you should be able to run "sudo fdisk -l" and look for the output for /dec/sdd
[18:22] <DarthFrog> James147:  He might find cfdisk easier to use than fdisk.
[18:22] <Khaotic> i did
[18:22] <James147> Khaotic: note that is you want to run "sudo fdisk /dev/sdd" unmount it first
[18:22] <Khaotic> huh?
[18:23] <James147> DarthFrog: he mentioned it first, assumed he know more about how to use it....
[18:23] <luis> then i have to do all that in shell right?
[18:23] <Khaotic> i didnt
[18:23] <Khaotic> so unmount from my pc first?
[18:24] <luis> can it be done running as live cd to try and see if it works?
[18:24] <Khaotic> Disk /dev/sdd: 7200 MB, 7200999936 bytes
[18:24] <Khaotic> 222 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1021 cylinders
[18:24] <Khaotic> Units = cylinders of 13764 * 512 = 7047168 bytes
[18:24] <Khaotic> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:24] <Khaotic> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:24] <FloodBotK2> Khaotic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <Khaotic> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[18:25] <Pici> Khaotic: Stop pasting stuff into this channel directly.
[18:25] <Khaotic> +z?
[18:25] <James147> luis: yeah, you shoul dbe able to run all of that from command line... and it should work on the live cd if tyou want yo test first
[18:25] <Pici> Khaotic: You're getting muted every time you do it.
[18:25] <Khaotic> i kno
[18:25] <luis> lets see
[18:25] <Khaotic> but what is mode z
[18:25] <luis> :P
[18:25] <Khaotic> never seen it
[18:25] <Pici> Khaotic: Then you should stop.
[18:25] <James147> luis: I would only follow the "legacy driver" part first
[18:26] <luis> ok so just the first part
[18:26] <James147> Khaotic: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[18:26] <luis> do i do the DISABLE KMS also or leave that?
[18:26] <Khaotic> i did....
[18:27] <James147> luis: the different parts look like different workarounds to me... try one if it failes reboot the live cd and try another
[18:27] <Khaotic> http://www.khaoticirc.net/pastebin.php?page=view&id=42
[18:27] <luis> good brb
[18:27] <luis> ts
[18:27] <luis> txs
[18:27] <Khaotic> James147 ^^^^
[18:27] <James147> luis: everything under "legacy driver"  (untill "GTT Inchoer...)
[18:28] <James147> Khaotic: thats the output of "mount" not "sudo fdisk -l"
[18:28] <Khaotic> o woops
[18:29] <Khaotic> http://www.khaoticirc.net/pastebin.php?page=view&id=43
[18:31] <Khaotic> James147 http://www.khaoticirc.net/pastebin.php?page=view&id=44
[18:32] <Pici> Khaotic: btw, +z allows operators to see what you're pasting.
[18:32] <James147> Khaotic: there are no partition on /dev/sdd ^^ according to that
[18:32] <Khaotic> o ok
[18:32] <Khaotic> WTF
[18:32] <Khaotic> i know i did it
[18:32] <James147> Khaotic: from the output of mount it looks like there is a filesystem driectly on the disk with no partitions
[18:33] <Khaotic> wtf
[18:33] <Khaotic> so i need to repartition it?
[18:33] <James147> Khaotic: ie the whole disk is basically a partition
[18:33] <Mamarok> Khaotic: please behave
[18:33] <James147> Khaotic: not unlesss you want more then one partition
[18:33] <DarthFrog> Khaotic: Given that you have /dev/sdd (and not sdd1) mounted on /mnt/disk, it looks like you made a filesystem on the device and not on the partition.  I didn't know you could do that. :-)
[18:33] <Khaotic> James147 this is for Apps2SD on my phone btw
[18:33] <Khaotic> i mounted my phone as a drive to my pc
[18:34] <James147> Khaotic: is it requiered that you have a partition to use that?
[18:34] <Khaotic> i think
[18:34] <Khaotic> from what i heard
[18:34] <Khaotic> oh well, ill just reinstall my phone and see what happens from there
[18:35] <James147> Khaotic: then you might want to look for a howto on how to use that ^^
[18:35] <Khaotic> yeah i am
[18:36] <James147> DarthFrog: thinking about it... its a drive mounted from a phone.... not entirly sure how the actual device look (goes and checks his android phone)
[18:37] <James147> ^^ mine mounts as /dev/sdc1 from the phone :S
[18:37] <DarthFrog> James147: Exactly.  It's partitioned.
[18:38] <DarthFrog> Just like a digital camera would be.
[18:38] <James147> DarthFrog: was just wandering if the android phone was doing something funny to make it look like just a device file
[18:39] <James147> but nop, look the same drictly connected to the pc
[18:44] <rackIT> I'm running 32 bit Hardy but want to know if my system supports 64 bit. I have the 64 bit live CD from an installation on another machine that boots and loads just fine. does this mean my box supports 64 bit architechure?
[18:44] <James147> DarthFrog: heh, looks like fdisk will create a filesystem directly on a device file, although it warns you about it (override with -I)
[18:45] <DarthFrog> James147: Thanks, good to know.  Don't think I'll ever do it though. :-)
[18:45] <James147> rackIT: yes, if it dident it would fail with a "wrong kernal acritecture" or something
[18:45] <James147> DarthFrog: nor I, well, not after that quick test
[18:46] <James147> DarthFrog: ^^ sorry, not fdisk... mkfs.*
[18:46] <James147> DarthFrog: mkfs.* will also create a filesystem on any file :S
[18:47] <DarthFrog> James147: That can be handy.
[18:47] <James147> DarthFrog: can use it to create .img files for flash drives :D
[18:47] <rackIT> James147: I kinda figured - I'm just kinda paranoid upgrading my main workstation. thx!
[18:48] <DarthFrog> rackIT: If you'e going to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit, why would you not also upgrade from Hardy?
[18:48] <James147> rackIT: just make sure you have a backup of your data :)
[18:50] <rackIT> DarthFrog: I'm upgrading to Lucid!
[18:50] <DarthFrog> Gotcha.
[18:50] <rackIT> James147: home is on a seperate drive
[18:51] <James147> rackIT: dosnt really amtter if it is or not (so long as you dont format the drive /home is on)
[18:51] <James147> rackIT: but its stilla  good idea to do a backup...
[18:52] <rackIT> James147: I hear you. I prolly will rename .kde too so hardy files dont cause problems
[19:00] <salvo> hi, how can i create a simple "desktop launcher" (or somkething with kdialog) that allows me to simply do: YES="sudo wvdial" NO="pkill -15 wvdial"  , thanks
[19:00] <James147> salvo: I would create a bash script and use the "kdialog" command
[19:01] <James147> salvo: use kdialog --help   for info on how to use it
[19:01] <salvo> James147: can i launch that from desktop?
[19:01] <salvo> it's not for me, this is myuncle noob laptop
[19:01] <salvo> i need to make somehitng simple for him to use wvdial
[19:01] <salvo> since knetwrokmanager won't connect with his mobile umts key
[19:02] <James147> salvo: you can create a link to it using dolphin (creates a .desktop file which can be placed like a widget)
[19:02] <salvo> nice
[19:11] <shadeslayer> hi, is anyone willing to help me out with https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603276
[19:45] <senfman> I'm still wondering how to rerun the X Configuration with hardware detection.
[19:45] <James147> senfman: what graphics card do you have?
[19:45] <senfman> nvidia.
[19:46] <senfman> James147: It is the same problem we discussed yesterday.
[19:46] <senfman> James147: I do not like the changes nvidia-settings proposes to xorg.conf
[19:46] <senfman> James147: The initial configuration however recognized my Monitor....
[19:46] <James147> senfman: cant remember what I was doing early today, never mind yesterday :D
[19:47] <James147> senfman: sudo nvidia-xconfig  should regenerate the xorg.conf file
[19:47] <senfman> James147: don't worry. the discussion helped me a lot. I'm still trying to find the best solution.
[19:53] <hanzz> hm, can somebody with LL run "modprobe -l|grep ehci" ?
[19:54] <HanzZ_> it seems there's not ehci_hcd module and I'm not sure why....
[19:57] <contrast> Greets, everyone. Any xorg.conf experts around? I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction for finding out how to set up X so that, upon boot, it will display on a monitor if one's connected to my laptop, and on the laptop's built-in screen if no monitor is connected. I'm using an nVidia card with the 256 series driver.
[20:00] <contrast> Hey BluesKaj, you remember me from last time? We were trying to get GRUB to pick up Windows after I had installed Windows subsequently to Linux.
[20:06] <luis> hey guys i am back
[20:06] <luis> and bad news it didn't work
[20:08] <luis> you know i was trying with kubuntu-10.04 live cd because my screen goes black so from shell i was trying to fix it but didn't work
[20:08] <James147> luis: what did you try exactly? and what went wrong?
[20:09] <James147> luis: (just making sure you didnt miss something)
[20:09] <luis> you gave me this web page to follow this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:raof/aubergine then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:10] <luis> after doing that ir took awhile on the upgrade thing
[20:10] <luis> it kept on shell
[20:11] <luis> i typed startx but it keeps saying something about dpkg --configure -a and if i do that says it cannot connect to x server
[20:11] <James147> luis: did you run the commands under "disable KMS" as well?
[20:11] <luis> no
[20:11] <luis> i didn't you told me not to
[20:11] <magic_> hi
[20:12] <James147> luis: told you to do everything under "legacy driver" that was ment to include the "install the ppa" and "disable KMS" parts sorry
[20:12] <magic_> for invite in kubuntu-it ?
[20:12] <magic_> how do you do
[20:12] <magic_> I request me ivite
[20:12] <luis> ok can you give me the page again pleas eto write everything and do it?
[20:12] <James147> luis: also to start x first make sure kdm isnt running "sudo stop kdm" then "startx"... or restart kdm "sudo restart kdm"
[20:12] <James147> luis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[20:13] <James147> luis: sorry for the confussion :S
[20:13] <luis> no problem
[20:14] <luis> but i like to ask you
[20:14] <magic_> no one answers me
[20:14] <luis> from 1 to 10 what will be the chances this will work?
[20:14] <BluesKaj> magic_, we can't authorize an invitation to a different chatroom
[20:14] <contrast> James147: When you finish helping luls, do you think you could give my problem a shot? It sounds like you know your way around X. :)
[20:14] <James147> luis: sorry, the disable KMS stuff might not work form a live cd
[20:15] <luis> cause it takes a lot to do the upgrade thing an if so i like to do it with that installed instead of doing it on live cd
[20:15] <magic_> ok
[20:15] <magic_> write there
[20:15] <magic_> here
[20:15] <magic_> in my kubuntu browser chrome donot work flash player
[20:15] <James147> contrast: not sure that is possible with xorg.conf... xrandr on the other hand could do it (easisest to use krandrtray)
[20:16] <magic_> how do you reinstall flash player
[20:16] <luis> go to update manager
[20:16] <BluesKaj> !it | magic_
[20:16] <luis> and type adobe
[20:16] <contrast> I always thought xrandr didn't work witn nVidia's proprietary driver?
[20:16] <luis> it will prompt with the flash player
[20:16] <luis> click on remove
[20:17] <magic_> ok
[20:17] <luis> then update from terminal your system
[20:17] <luis> then reinstall it that should work magic
[20:17] <James147> luis: wander if this would work... from the livecd boot menu (after the language part) see if you can boot with vga graphics mode
[20:17] <magic_> write me command please here
[20:17] <magic_> for konsole
[20:18] <magic_> luis
[20:18] <James147> luis: give me a min to find out the exact instructions on how
[20:18] <luis> you mean in the screen with the option to either install or try live cd?
[20:18] <BluesKaj> magic_, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer
[20:18] <luis> for terminal or konsole
[20:19] <luis> sudo apt-get update
[20:19] <magic_> ok thanks
[20:19] <luis> sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:19] <luis> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:19] <luis> that will do magic
[20:19] <magic_> ok thanks
[20:19] <luis> after doing all that then reinstall
[20:19] <magic_> update too browser chrome plugin?
[20:19] <James147> magic_: "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-installer"  to reinstall flash]
[20:20] <magic_> now i try
[20:20] <James147> luis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing%20the%20Boot%20Option%20Configuration%20Line
[20:21] <luis> so this will be the right one?
[20:21] <bipolar> Has anyone else noticed a lot of interface lag and temporary hanging when you have a lot of programs running at once, copying files around, or compiling something? I looked into it and ended up changing the default scheduler, which make my UI much more responsive. If anyone else is having the same issues, I'd like you to try the same thing I did and see if it clears up.
[20:21] <James147> luis: follow those instructions to add vga=771  to the boot options
[20:21] <luis> ok
[20:21] <James147> luis: hopefully that will give you a workaround to boot the live cd
[20:21] <luis> let me read be back with questions if any :P
[20:22] <bipolar> Now it doesn't take 15 sec to switch from firefox to openoffice when I have  alot of things running :)
[20:23] <vbgunz_> bipolar: what schedular are you using?
[20:23] <James147> luis: if that works you should be able to install, on the same page is how to change the options for an installed system which you will need to do to boot the installed system
[20:23] <luis> ok
[20:23] <bipolar> vbgunz_: noop right now.
[20:23] <luis> taking a look :P
[20:24] <vbgunz_> bipolar: elevator=noop in grub?
[20:24] <bipolar> vbgunz_: yep. used /etc/default/grub to set it up
[20:24] <bipolar> vbgunz_: that way it gets put in all kernels and updates.
[20:24] <vbgunz_> bipolar: I was thinking of swapping out the default schedular myself, been too lazy though
[20:25] <bipolar> vbgunz_: takes 30 sec and a reboot. change the line like so: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="elevator=noop quiet splash"
[20:25] <bipolar> vbgunz_: then run 'sudo update-grub'
[20:26] <bipolar> it's like night and day here, although I think the problem is worse on x86_64 then i686
[20:27] <crom> hi all....anyone knows how to get "dund"
[20:28] <vbgunz_> bipolar: by chance, do you know how to tell which schedular is in use now?
[20:29] <bipolar> vbgunz_: I haven't tried to figure that out. I think scanning dmesg would show it
[20:30] <bipolar> vbgunz_: dmesg | grep scheduler
[20:30] <bipolar> vbgunz_: that shows the all the schedulers registered, and the default (in use) one.
[20:30] <OldChap> what library has superseded librpm4.4 in lucid
[20:30] <OldChap> librpm4.4 was still in jaunty but I cannot not found it in lucid
[20:31] <vbgunz_> bipolar: I think this is it cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler
[20:31] <magic_> excuse me
[20:31] <magic_> for remove
[20:31] <magic_> the command?
[20:31] <vbgunz_> bipolar: I got back noop anticipatory deadline [cfq]
[20:31] <magic_> sudo apt-get remove name package?
[20:32] <vbgunz_> bipolar: what does yours say? maybe whats in brackets is your current scheduler?
[20:32] <bipolar> vbgunz_: that's per device, yeah. so cfq is your default, which was mine as well.
[20:32] <James147> magic_: yes
[20:32] <magic_> tanks
[20:32] <bipolar> vbgunz_: yes. I get [noop] anticipatory deadline cfq
[20:32] <James147> magic_: add --purge to it to remove the config files as well
[20:33] <magic_> ok
[20:33] <vbgunz_> I would try noop but damn, how do you read up on these schedulers?
[20:34] <vbgunz_> im googling and my fu is bad or something, but I don't see a comprehensive list of scheduler options and how they work
[20:34] <bipolar> vbgunz_: redhat has a good writeup in their docs, but it focuses on throughput.
[20:34] <magic_> sudo apt-get --purge flashplugin-installer?
[20:34] <magic_> kame
[20:34] <magic_> James147:
[20:34] <bipolar> vbgunz_: on the desktop responsiveness is much more important then thoughput.
[20:34] <James147> magic_: sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename>
[20:34] <magic_> ok
[20:35] <vbgunz_> bipolar I absolutely agree
[20:35] <bipolar> vbgunz_: I think the anticipatory scheduler is even better then noop for responsivness, but you sacrafice more thoughput for it.
[20:35] <bipolar> vbgunz_: noop works for me :)
[20:35] <bipolar> vbgunz_: cfq was just horrible.
[20:36] <vbgunz_> bipolar: I know a patch is in the works and might make it into *.36 version of the linux kernel which involves and insane speedup totally getting rid of lag, latency, etc
[20:37] <bipolar> vbgunz_: thats one of the pages that led me down this road.
[20:41] <magic_> the plugin flash player reinstalled but in browser chrome do not work
[20:42] <magic_> James147:
[20:42] <James147> magic_: dose it work in any broswer?
[20:42] <magic_> yes firefox
[20:42] <magic_> ok
[20:42] <magic_> chrome not
[20:43] <magic_> why do not kwow
[20:44] <magic_> the web site adobe say me: plugin id updated
[20:44] <magic_> is*
[20:44] <James147> magic_: did you restart the broswer after reinstalling it?
[20:44] <magic_> but do not work in chrome
[20:45] <magic_> already do
[20:46] <magic_> i want know how reinstall in chrome flah player plugin
[20:48] <vbgunz_> bipolar: have you tried the as scheduler at all? according to redhat, it seems the better choice for client and workstation machines where interactive response time is a higher priority than I/O latency
[20:48] <James147> magic_: close all your broswers (and kill npviewer.bin if its stull running) then run "sudo aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-installer; sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer"
[20:48] <magic_> ok James147 task manager?
[20:49] <James147> magic_: "killall npviewer.bin"  would do it, ot you can use the taskmanager
[20:49] <James147> or ^^
[20:50] <magic_> As I open task manager
[20:50] <magic_> James147:
[20:53] <bipolar> vbgunz_: not yet. I don't know if I'll notice a diffrence. CFQ to NOOP was so dramatic.
[20:54] <vbgunz_> bipolar: im gonna try 'as' right now
[20:54] <magic_> vbgunz_: for open task manager in ubuntu?
[20:54] <magic_> ops kubuntu
[20:55] <vbgunz_> magic_: changing the elevator in grub
[20:56] <magic_> I am interested in how to open task manager for to kill process
[20:56] <James147> magic_: crtl + esc
[20:56] <magic_> tanksssssssssssssssssssss
[20:56] <magic_> a lot
[20:58] <slow-motion> hi
[21:00] <vbgunz> cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler > noop [anticipatory] deadline cfq
[21:00] <vbgunz> gonna see whats up by trying to do some big copies, see what happens
[21:01] <bipolar> vbgunz: keep us informed
[21:01] <vbgunz> I usually notice a big slow down when I do a backup of my entire system. I can do that backup right now, will let you know whats up
[21:03] <vbgunz> one thing that burns me up is my external esata backup disk. just turning it on isn't enough some times :/
[21:21] <luis> nop
[21:22] <luis> didn't work anything
[21:22] <luis> now i like to ask you James
[21:22] <snirp> small question: if i want to install opensuse in parralel (dual boot), can I do so on my existing partionion (with kubuntu) without loosing data?
[21:22] <gubu> join #kubuntu-devel
[21:22] <gubu> join #kubuntu-dev
[21:22] <FloodBotK2> gubu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:22] <luis> never mind
[21:23] <luis> i was thinking doing it by upgrading and see the way to keep my graphic driver
[21:23] <luis> would that be possible James?
[21:24] <snirp> That would mean resizing my partition (ext4) without loosing data.... possible?
[21:24] <vbgunz> bipolar: you have an SSD?
[21:25] <snirp> Does opensuse cater for that during install?
[21:26] <luis> what do you think James147?
[21:26] <snirp> snirp: nobody sill listen to you
[21:27] <snirp> snirp: you might as well talk to a brick wall
[21:30] <James147> luis: dont think it would be that easy to keep your graphics drivers... but you might be able to apply the fix from that system :S
[21:30] <luis> what do you mean?
[21:30] <luis> like just trying and see?
[21:31] <luis> well you know
[21:31] <luis> now i have someother issues with this kubuntu9.04
[21:31] <James147> luis: if you upgrade, the drivers break, and then you try the stuff from the page I sent before
[21:31] <luis> i see
[21:32] <luis> well i leave that for now however i got some issues with kubuntu 9.04
[21:32] <James147> luis: its more likly to work on an actual installation then a live cd I think... athough I am not sure why the vga thing dident work :S
[21:32] <James147> luis: what issues?
[21:32] <luis> one is that i already installed for second time
[21:33] <luis> the reasoon was because after the login screen it takes you to another splash screen and it suddendly froze that screen got kinnda fuzzy and that was it
[21:33] <luis> didnt get into my desktop anymore
[21:33] <James147> luis: :S not seen that happen
[21:33] <luis> so i have that conflict and scare that happens to me again and have to reinstall
[21:34]  * James147 thinks
[21:35] <bipolar> vbgunz: nope
[21:35] <corigo> how do I run a .run file?
[21:36] <luis> so that only means one thing: this are the problems i have been dealing with and they are also the reason why i still was keeping kubuntu8.04
[21:37] <DarthFrog> corigo: "chmod +x <run file> && ./<runfile>"
[21:37] <luis> then i will have to go back again to kubuntu8.04
[21:37] <luis> for my pc is more stable than this other ones
[21:38] <luis> but before that
[21:38] <luis> one thing i already manage to kindda keep my screen resolution
[21:38] <luis> only on desktop
[21:38] <James147> luis: you could try disabling the splash screen (or using a simply one) system settings > appeance > slash screen
[21:38] <luis> the previous screens are not the same way
[21:39] <corigo> DartFrog: no change
[21:39] <James147> corigo: what did the command ouput?
[21:40] <tomif> hi there :)
[21:40] <DarthFrog> corigo:  Try "sh <runfile>"
[21:40] <wastrel> commands
[21:42] <luis> this is what happens: everytime i reboot those screens are in a none proper screen resolution, then it takes me to the login screen now once it gets into my desktop upfront is the unwanted screen resol, but i got this screen resize rotate thing that manage to setup the screen res the way it must be, but when it does the panel stays at half of the screen it doesn't goes to the way it suppos i mean all the way to the other side of the screen is there a way to 
[21:42] <luis>  JAMES147??
[21:42] <corigo> sh works
[21:42] <luis> i think i will get screen shot for you to see this
[21:43] <James147> luis: try right clicking the panel > panel options > panel settings > more settings > maximise panel
[21:43] <luis> ok
[21:45] <bipolar> vbgunz: have you noticed any difference?
[21:45] <corigo> any new ways or better instructions on mounting/accessing ext3 formatted drives on Win7?
[21:46] <corigo> (64bit)
[21:47] <vbgunz> bipolar: yes, I just backedup and the system during backup was a tiny bit slow but never extremely noticeable
[21:47] <vbgunz> bipolar: I am thinking of messing with writeback, noatime, etc
[22:10] <vbgunz> I think the latest kernel update totally killed my external esata connection. connecting with a usb is fine but esata does nothing anymore :/
[22:12] <vbgunz> well I guess not entirely, I saw it in fdisk -l and manually mounted it but device notifier doesn't see it and it used to
[22:18] <luis> hey James sorry to keep asking you, just one more question, i am updating this kubuntu9.04 is it faster if i do that on terminal? cause by Kpackagekit iis going really slow??
[22:23] <luis> just notice James is gone
[22:24] <luis> so does anyone know if the updating will be faster doing it on terminal than in Kpackagekit?? is there any significante difference anyone knows please???
[22:26] <lubulu> luis, terminal is always faster
[22:26] <luis> ok txs a lot lubulu
[22:29] <Mike_Litorys> any helper here ?
[22:30] <well_laid_lawn> cees: you just state your issue here and be patient - if someone knows they will most likely respond
[22:34] <cees> i'm trying to install ubuntu with netboot. i did all the things that the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows guide says to do... i think i get the GRUb working but i don-t know what to do after that
[22:36] <lubulu> cees, neetboot is just a minimal cli
[22:36] <cees> huh?
[22:37] <lubulu> cees, if you got to the grub then select which to boot and enter
[22:40] <cees> uhmm... where show the ubuntu files be located? i mean the .iso
[22:40] <cees> should*
[22:41] <lubulu> cees, you lost me
[22:43] <cees> i-m trying to install ubuntu without the install cd or pendrive, i have an ubuntu.iso image that i can't burn because i don't have a cd-rw
[22:44] <lubulu> cees, i thought you said you installed the netboot and got to the grub fine?
[22:46] <cees> i think so... i created the c:/boot/grub dir with the initrd.gz and linux files in c:/boot and menu.lst in c:/boot/grub
[22:47] <cees> the grldr is in c:/ and i appended the boot.ini file with c:\grldr="Install Ubuntu"
[22:48] <well_laid_lawn> !wubi
[22:49] <cees> after i reboot i select the install ubuntu option and i get a menu with some options that never work because it says that the kernel must be selected first
[22:50] <well_laid_lawn> I've never done a wubi install but ^ sounds like one
[22:53] <cees> thanks... i-ll read the guide first...