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| micahg | bac: the PPA builders seem to have an issue picking up builds | 00:40 |
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| spm | micahg: they look happy to me atm? what leads you to believe things aren't well? | 00:53 |
| micahg | spm: ah, so they do, almost all the PPA builders were idle | 00:54 |
| spm | ahh *that* one. right. lovely. | 00:54 |
| micahg | spm: I saw some notes in from lp-dev list that says that might go away soon | 00:54 |
| spm | I'd believe it. I know jules gets even more irritated by these then we all do :-) | 00:55 |
| Sia- | hi | 01:15 |
| Sia- | any one from roseta her? | 01:15 |
| Sia- | i need to upload .po but does n't accepted :( | 01:16 |
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| russ | hello, is there any way to get help with a login problem for a paid canonical support contract? | 04:04 |
| lifeless | I'm sure there is | 04:05 |
| lifeless | lets see | 04:05 |
| lifeless | I've just pinged our support department , should get someone to pop in here and give you a hand soon | 04:06 |
| lifeless | have you tried ringing the helpdesk? | 04:06 |
| russ | It appears they won't return my call. | 04:07 |
| lifeless | thats most unusual | 04:07 |
| russ | One would think they might make an exception about the "core support hours" BS for a new user who can't even access the online system | 04:08 |
| lifeless | please tell me what has been happening | 04:09 |
| russ | ok here is the situation | 04:10 |
| russ | I bought a ubuntu desktop support contract 2 days ago | 04:10 |
| russ | I received a "Welcome to Canonical Global Support Services" email immediately | 04:11 |
| russ | it made reference to an "invitation email" that I did not receive | 04:11 |
| russ | (at this point, I should mention I formerly had a support contract that expired last year) | 04:12 |
| russ | I sent a note back to the person named in the welcome message and she gave me alternate instructions | 04:12 |
| russ | but ... when I go to landscape.canonical.com I am redirected to landscape.canonical.com/complete-new-user and after entering my information, I get a response "Person with that email already exists." | 04:13 |
| russ | that sums it up | 04:13 |
| lifeless | and with the phone call thing, whats happening there? | 04:13 |
| russ | I get a message that says they are too busy to come to the phone, and to save me long distance charges (calling their toll-free number), please leave a message. | 04:14 |
| russ | And then pointing out that if my support contract is not a 24/7 account and it's after hours, they will not call back | 04:15 |
| russ | so far, that's the truth - I called about 3 hours ago | 04:15 |
| lifeless | ok | 04:16 |
| russ | The person I corresponded with is Nelia de Carvalho | 04:16 |
| lifeless | please bear with me a couple of minutes | 04:17 |
| lifeless | its rather late in Montreal | 04:17 |
| russ | aha | 04:17 |
| russ | it'sa global operation and I never know where any of these people are | 04:17 |
| russ | but it's also rather early in England | 04:17 |
| lifeless | as far as I know, support are still all in Montreal, using on-call and rotations to cover customers around the world | 04:18 |
| russ | do you work for Canonical? | 04:18 |
| lifeless | yes | 04:19 |
| russ | nice to be able to get you "live" then - where are you? | 04:19 |
| lifeless | me, I live in New Zeaand | 04:20 |
| russ | excellent | 04:20 |
| russ | I guess a phone call is out of the question then :-) | 04:21 |
| lifeless | well, I don't know anything about the mechanics of the system you're having trouble logging into | 04:22 |
| russ | by any chance is there an irc channel that connects with the support staff? | 04:22 |
| lifeless | so I'm currently looking through our internal wiki to see if I can find someone a) awake, and b) knowledgable that can help you | 04:22 |
| russ | excellent, guess we need both a and b | 04:23 |
| lifeless | what tz are you in ? | 04:24 |
| russ | interesting question. The true fact is that I am in California. | 04:25 |
| russ | but I'd rather be in New Zealand (at least for my support hours!) | 04:25 |
| lifeless | so, if I can't find someone soon, I will have run out of reasonable options : AIUI desktop contracts are not 24x7 contracts, so it would be unreasonable for me to ring the on-call person directly; I want to help you get logged in, but - as above I can't directly help with that. | 04:28 |
| russ | thank you for trying | 04:31 |
| russ | now to the point of what is reasonable: | 04:31 |
| russ | I think it would be reasonable for the on-call person to help with this problem since I have not been able to gain access to any part of the service I purchased and presumably the clock is ticking | 04:32 |
| russ | second, with my previous contract, I had Canonical's explicit agreement that I could make my 8 core support hours start at 5 pm and run to 1 am | 04:33 |
| lifeless | have you mentioned that in the message you left on the support voice mail ? | 04:33 |
| lifeless | I would imagine it to have carried over on your account in fact; and we don't know why they have not called you back. | 04:34 |
| russ | no i did not, but on the other hand I am still trying to get that point straightened out | 04:35 |
| lifeless | If I can make a suggestion. | 04:35 |
| russ | certainly - ? | 04:35 |
| lifeless | Leave another message, and include that detail - that you're a returning customer with an agreed variation on 'standard hours'. | 04:35 |
| lifeless | There may be someone around in an hour or so who can shed some light on why you didn't get that meail | 04:36 |
| russ | That's a good idea. I will do that. | 04:36 |
| russ | Have you heard of such a deviation before? | 04:36 |
| lifeless | we're making a guess about why you haven't heard back from them, and the guess could be wrong - but its worth addressing that point in case the guess is right. | 04:37 |
| russ | I agree. | 04:37 |
| lifeless | on when the standard hours are? No, but that doesn't mean anything, as I'm not in the support department - I don't hear *anything* :) | 04:37 |
| mwhudson | i /think/ it's part of the deal to get to decide when your own core hours are -- imagine a customer based in nz! -- but i'm not in the support group either... | 04:38 |
| * thumper agrees with y'all | 04:39 | |
| ajmitch | though it's not like there are actually people in NZ, right? | 04:40 |
| lifeless | nobody here but us chickens | 04:40 |
| russ | lifeless I just left a message on the support line as you suggested. We shall see. | 04:42 |
| mwhudson | ajmitch: one hear's rumours | 04:43 |
| mwhudson | man | 04:43 |
| mwhudson | how did that apostrophe get there | 04:43 |
| lifeless | russ: I'm popping out to my local supermarket, but I'll be back before long and am keen to know if you get a callback. | 04:43 |
| thumper | mwhudson: muscle memory | 04:43 |
| russ | ok thanks for your help and I will be sure to post a message if I get a call | 04:44 |
| russ | apostrophes turn up in the weirdest places | 04:45 |
| sensae | Hello. I'm trying to move a project from github to launchpad. It's fully imported. Is there any way I can create series milestones and assign them to old releases? | 04:54 |
| thumper | sensae: probably not automagically | 04:56 |
| sensae | thumper: I only have about 4 point releases, I'm trying to do it by hand but I'm still figuring out launchpad. | 04:56 |
| thumper | sensae: release management isn't something I have a lot of experience with | 04:57 |
| thumper | sensae: releases and milestones are connected to series | 04:57 |
| thumper | sensae: the project will have a 'trunk' series initially | 04:57 |
| thumper | sensae: do you want your releases of 'trunk' or something else? | 04:57 |
| thumper | sensae: 'trunk' is the development focus | 04:58 |
| sensae | thumper: I've already pushed two branches, trunk and unstable, and created two series, trunk for stable releases and unstable for development | 04:58 |
| thumper | sensae: ok, is unstable set as the development focus? | 04:59 |
| thumper | sensae: which project? | 04:59 |
| sensae | thumper: yes, https://launchpad.net/munchlife | 04:59 |
| thumper | sensae: if you go to https://launchpad.net/munchlife/stable | 05:00 |
| thumper | sensae: scroll down slightly, there is create milestone and create release | 05:01 |
| sensae | thumper: Are milestones tied to a specific revision when you 'release' them, or is it just a loose target to assign bugs and blueprints to? | 05:03 |
| thumper | relatively loose right now | 05:04 |
| sensae | thumper: Ah. Thanks for the help. Launchpad seems rather.. unique in the series/milestone approach. | 05:06 |
| thumper | :) | 05:07 |
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| michaelh1 | Afternoon. How can I get all of the bug_tasks, open or closed, on a project using launchpadlib? | 05:09 |
| michaelh1 | project.searchTasks() is OK, but what should I supply for the status parameter to get all bugs ever? | 05:10 |
| wgrant | michaelh1: use the 'searchTasks' method, and give the list of all statuses. | 05:10 |
| wgrant | michaelh1: Also note that duplicate bugs are omitted by default; you'll need to say omit_duplicates=False | 05:11 |
| michaelh1 | What should I use for the list of all statuses? I currently have 'all = "New, Incomplete (with response), Incomplete (without response), Incomplete, Opinion, Invalid, Won't Fix, Expired, Confirmed, Triaged, In Progress, Fix Committed, Fix Released".split(', ') | 05:12 |
| michaelh1 | ...but that's fragile | 05:12 |
| wgrant | I'm not sure there's a better way at the moment. | 05:13 |
| wgrant | There should probably be a bug for that./ | 05:13 |
| michaelh1 | LP 613713 | 05:20 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 613713 in launchpadlib "Provide a way of fetching all bug_tasks on a project (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613713 | 05:20 |
| michaelh1 | Ta. | 05:20 |
| michaelh1 | Is there a way of forcing launchpadlib to use HTTP? I'm doing a lot of queries and running into LP 522957 | 05:21 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 522957 in launchpadlib "please hold https connection open (affected: 3, heat: 5)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522957 | 05:21 |
| michaelh1 | HTTP might establish quicker than HTTPS... | 05:21 |
| wgrant | Launchpad will just redirect you to HTTPS if you try that. | 05:21 |
| michaelh1 | Ah :) I thought it might | 05:22 |
| sensae | How can I compare two branches to see where the commits differ? | 05:25 |
| thumper | sensae: bzr help missing | 05:25 |
| sensae | thumper: thanks | 05:27 |
| sensae | This is odd. I've created three milestones, but on this page https://launchpad.net/munchlife/stable it lists 1.0 three times. When I click "View milestones" it shows the three different milestones properly | 05:35 |
| sensae | Is this a bug? | 05:45 |
| wgrant | It is indeed a bug. | 05:45 |
| wgrant | It looks fine for me, so it's probably a caching issue specific to your user. | 05:45 |
| sensae | Ah alright, I just won't worry about it. | 05:45 |
| wgrant | sensae: If you refresh the page, do you now see 6 of the 1.0 milestone? | 05:51 |
| sensae | wgrant: Yup. | 05:54 |
| sensae | wgrant: Logging out it displayed properly. Logging back in it's the same. | 05:56 |
| wgrant | sensae: Yeah, it should magically be fine again in about 40 minutes. | 05:57 |
| wgrant | When the cache expires. | 05:57 |
| wgrant | I am trying to track down the bug now. | 05:57 |
| sensae | wgrant: lol alright. | 05:57 |
| sensae | Launchpad takes some getting used to, but I kind of like the looser 'milestone/series' paradigm vs working in github. | 05:58 |
| lifeless | what does github require ? | 05:59 |
| wgrant | sensae: Can you upload a screenshot somewhere? | 06:00 |
| sensae | lifeless: You can't really make arbitrary milestones and releases, they're just tied to tags. | 06:01 |
| sensae | wgrant: sure | 06:01 |
| sensae | wgrant: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7619/screenshotseriesstablem.png | 06:04 |
| wgrant | sensae: Thanks. | 06:04 |
| sensae | wgrant: np | 06:04 |
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| MTecknology | Is there a limit to how much you can pull/push branches? | 06:12 |
| lifeless | yes | 06:17 |
| lifeless | your bandwidth | 06:17 |
| lifeless | we cannae break the laws of physics | 06:18 |
| russ | lifeless just wanted to let you know I did not get a call back from the Canonical support team. It's been more than two hours now. | 06:46 |
| lifeless | russ: thanks, I've just sent an email off to the support team lead, so they will know about it when they get up | 06:47 |
| russ | lifeless thanks. I may have to take a day off of work because of this unreasonable support hours position taken by Canonical. | 06:57 |
| lifeless | russ: we don't know the cause - It may be as simple as having a problem with your phone number. | 06:59 |
| lifeless | russ: neverthess, I sure hope they make contact with you soon | 07:00 |
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| StarQuake | hello, just wanted to let you know the staging server isn't working since yesterday evening | 07:57 |
| spm | StarQuake: ta; it's had some pretty major updates lately; and is currently doing a staging-restore. with any luck it should live again in the 15-45 minutes. | 08:07 |
| spm | in the *next* 15-45... | 08:07 |
| StarQuake | spm, okay thanks!! | 08:08 |
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| Sia- | hello no body is her | 09:25 |
| Sia- | i'm waiting 3 dayes for approval our .po file | 09:25 |
| Sia- | if you r so ... to answer the people why you host the translation groups | 09:26 |
| Sia- | helooooo | 09:27 |
| henninge | Easy, Sia- | 09:29 |
| henninge | insulting people you don't know won't get you anywhere in live | 09:29 |
| henninge | and insulting people you *do* know is even worse ... | 09:29 |
| Sia- | henninge, srry, but i have the same theater with your import system every new version from wordpress | 09:29 |
| henninge | Sia-: Then something needs to be fixed about them because approval should not be needed every time again. | 09:30 |
| Sia- | no | 09:30 |
| Sia- | because the po is not created by launchpad | 09:30 |
| Sia- | is created by http://translate.wordpress.org | 09:31 |
| henninge | Sia-: Which are the imports you are talking about? | 09:31 |
| Sia- | wordpress | 09:31 |
| henninge | Sia-: can you copy the URL to make sure wer are looking at the same thing? | 09:31 |
| Sia- | http://translate.wordpress.org/projects/wp/3.0.x/ckb/default | 09:31 |
| Sia- | the .po file is downloaded and i'll upload it her https://translations.launchpad.net/wordpress/3.0/+pots/wordpress/ckb/+upload | 09:32 |
| henninge | Sia-: I'll look at it in a minute | 09:33 |
| Sia- | ok i upload it now agian | 09:33 |
| Sia- | again* | 09:33 |
| Sia- | henninge, https://translations.launchpad.net/wordpress/3.0/+imports | 09:36 |
| henninge | Sia-: wait till I have looked at it. I am in a phone call atm. | 09:36 |
| Sia- | ok thnx | 09:36 |
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| Sia- | henninge, as i said i receive again iport problem with the same story | 10:14 |
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| hrw | hi | 10:19 |
| hrw | Blueprint page can have bugs linked and I make a use of it. But there is no sign of bug status there so I have to check all >20 bugs one by one or remember their status. Does it have a sense to report wishlist bug for it? | 10:20 |
| henninge | Sia-: Sorry, call was longer than expected. Looking now. | 10:23 |
| Sia- | henninge, thnx but how can i now is imported because i receive import error | 10:25 |
| Sia- | now ==know | 10:26 |
| henninge | Sia-: you said you downloaded this file from Launchpad, then worked on it, now you want to upload it again, right? | 10:29 |
| Sia- | downloaded from translate.wordpress.org | 10:30 |
| henninge | Ah | 10:30 |
| henninge | Sia-: The current error "File was not exported from Launchpad." is because you did not choose "Imported translation" when you uploaded the file. | 10:31 |
| Sia- | ok should try again? | 10:31 |
| henninge | Yes, please. | 10:31 |
| Sia- | henninge, done | 10:32 |
| henninge | jtv: shouldn't the gardner approve an import like this? https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/wordpress/3.0/+imports | 10:34 |
| henninge | jtv: or does it trip on the file name? | 10:34 |
| jtv | henninge: the gardener's having a problem at the moment. | 10:34 |
| henninge | jtv: but should it approve it normally? | 10:35 |
| jtv | henninge: it's one of those cases where setting the potemplate or a pofile for an entry makes it clash with an older entry that already has the potemplate or pofile set (and to the same value). | 10:35 |
| jtv | henninge: that one is auto-approved only if the upload's path matches the existing POFile path (which we can't edit anywhere in the UI). | 10:35 |
| henninge | jtv: is it? There aren't any other files in the queue. | 10:35 |
| jtv | Oh, or if it's uploaded to the right POFile. | 10:36 |
| henninge | jtv: it is AFAICT | 10:36 |
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| jtv | henninge: actually, uploading to the right POFile should set the template/language but probably not the state. | 10:37 |
| henninge | jtv: yes, that's all that happens at upload time. But as we have that information, shouldn't it be happily approved automatically? | 10:37 |
| henninge | by the gardener? | 10:38 |
| jtv | henninge: only if the pofile matches | 10:38 |
| jtv | wow, frightening storm starting here | 10:38 |
| jtv | I may lose power/connectivity | 10:38 |
| henninge | "pofile path" | 10:38 |
| jtv | Dark as Mordor | 10:38 |
| henninge | ooooo | 10:38 |
| henninge | jtv: you mean "if the pofile *path* matches" ? | 10:39 |
| henninge | Sia-: I can approve the uplaod easily, I am just trying to figure out why it is not happening automatically. | 10:40 |
| Sia- | ok thnx | 10:40 |
| jtv | henninge: yes, in this case, the upload's path must match exactly that which is stored in the POFile I think. | 10:42 |
| henninge | jtv: yes, that would explain it. I'll find out what that file name is. | 10:43 |
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| jtv | henninge: bit busy tying stuff down… some furniture tried to go over the edge here. If I hurry I can probably still recover some stuff that fell off. | 10:49 |
| jtv | It's in the street—on the wrong side of the building. Wet walk. :( | 10:50 |
| henninge | Good luck, jtv! | 10:50 |
| Sia- | ok approved? | 10:50 |
| jtv | henninge: back, and back to looking at the buildfarm issue :) | 10:55 |
| henninge | Sia-: yes, approved ;) | 10:56 |
| Sia- | thnx alot | 10:56 |
| Sia- | i see in the list 1 item need review from me, but can't click it or is no more this option need review in the dropdown list | 11:00 |
| henninge | Sia-: What do you mean? It says "Approved" for me. | 11:03 |
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| LucidFox | How long does it usually take for new Launchpad mailing lists to get into service? | 11:47 |
| LucidFox | I created one and it got approved, but its archive page displays an empty Apache index | 11:47 |
| maxb | LucidFox: when the first email happens | 11:48 |
| LucidFox | Ah, makes sense | 11:50 |
| LucidFox | Right, it happened! | 11:51 |
| esteve | mrevell: hi, you there? | 11:55 |
| mrevell | Hi esteve | 11:55 |
| esteve | mrevell: we agreed to move to launchpad, but the trac transition scares the shit out of us :-) | 11:57 |
| esteve | mrevell: I found this https://edge.launchpad.net/trac-launchpad-migrator, is it in any way "official" or supported by canonical? | 11:57 |
| mrevell | esteve, Hey, it's great to hear you're moving over :) The migrator is sort of official. It's developed and maintained by Graham, one of the Launchpad bugs team. (He's on vacation this week, otherwise I'd ping him now.) | 11:59 |
| mrevell | esteve, I'm certain we can help you with a smooth transition, though. | 11:59 |
| esteve | mrevell: great, thanks! | 12:01 |
| esteve | mrevell: once I have the xml file, do I just send it to you? The project is proprietary, so I'm afraid we can't post it as a question against malone | 12:02 |
| mrevell | hey deryck, could esteve do what he describes above ^^^^? He's thinking of using Graham's trac migrator. | 12:04 |
| deryck | mrevell, I don't see anything described above, except just "do I just send it to you." Just logged in. | 12:05 |
| deryck | hi esteve | 12:05 |
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| mrevell | deryck, Yeah, that's pretty much it. Basically, can esteve send us the xml file directly and have us import it? | 12:05 |
| esteve | deryck: hi! | 12:06 |
| deryck | mrevell, ah, ok. Yes, definitely. | 12:06 |
| deryck | esteve, mrevell -- CC me please, and I'll have someone take a look at it. | 12:07 |
| esteve | awesome :-) | 12:07 |
| Sia- | henninge, you see her https://translations.launchpad.net/wordpress/3.0 for example is 3 item under Needs Review by Kurdish Sorani, how can i approve them? | 12:07 |
| henninge | Sia-: start here, let me look. https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/wordpress/3.0/+pots/wordpress | 12:09 |
| LucidFox | Is it possible to enable non-team-members to send emails to a Launchpad mailing list? | 12:10 |
| henninge | Sia-: you can click on the "3" and it will show you the strings. | 12:10 |
| Sia- | oh yes, thnx you r the best | 12:10 |
| LucidFox | I tried sending one from a different email account, and apparently Launchpad silently ate it | 12:11 |
| Sia- | henninge, but i can't approve it :( or edit it | 12:12 |
| henninge | D | 12:12 |
| henninge | Sia-: Can you usually do that? | 12:12 |
| Sia- | yes because i'm a team leader and creator | 12:12 |
| henninge | I just saw. Hm. | 12:13 |
| henninge | Sia-: what are sou seeing? | 12:13 |
| LucidFox | Okay, let me phrase it differently | 12:14 |
| LucidFox | is it possible to enable emails from non-Launchpad-users? | 12:14 |
| LucidFox | to mailing lists | 12:15 |
| henninge | LucidFox: I think not. sinzui? | 12:16 |
| LucidFox | Blimey! | 12:16 |
| mrevell | thanks deryck | 12:16 |
| LucidFox | See, the thing is | 12:16 |
| Sia- | brb henninge 10 min srry | 12:17 |
| deryck | mrevell, np | 12:19 |
| LucidFox | I want to set the mailing list as the administrative contact for a wordpress.com blog, but it requires a confirmation email - which the list eats because donotreply@wordpress.com is not a Launchpad user. | 12:19 |
| mrevell | LucidFox, That's an interesting one. I've just been trying to think through different ways in which you could solve that but I can't think of anything that would. bac do you have any ideas to help LucidFox? ^^^^^^ | 12:26 |
| LucidFox | Well | 12:26 |
| jetienne | my ppa package will start to build 'in 50min' for the last 2h :) im not sure i get the highest priority somehow :) | 12:26 |
| LucidFox | Actually never mind | 12:27 |
| LucidFox | even if I get WordPress to approve it, it will still eat emails from people sending it through the WordPress link | 12:27 |
| bigjools | jetienne: the estimates are not that accurate, it's very hard to get it right. Also, as you guessed, some people can jump the queue. | 12:28 |
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| Sia-- | srry henninge i was disconnected. | 12:31 |
| Sia-- | i found it and thnx again for everything | 12:34 |
| henninge | Sia--: You are welcome! | 12:35 |
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| ricotz | hello, is there currently a problem with importing translations from branches? | 17:12 |
| ricotz | the import seems not to work - https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/docky/+imports | 17:14 |
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| Quintasan | jelmer: hi there, any progress on Bug #579491? Can I somehow help you? | 17:26 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 579491 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "iter_changes on caching logwalker supports only one prefix (affected: 3, heat: 20)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/579491 | 17:26 |
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| jelmer | Quintasan, hi | 17:27 |
| jelmer | Quintasan: That bug has been fixed, but the fix hasn't been rolled out yet (it will be with the next release of launchpad) | 17:28 |
| Quintasan | and when would that be? | 17:28 |
| jelmer | the dates should be on the launchpad blog | 17:29 |
| Quintasan | urgh | 17:32 |
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| jelmer | Quintasan: alternatively, you can run bzr-svn locally | 17:33 |
| Quintasan | jelmer: well, we need to test our recipes on launchpad | 17:35 |
| Quintasan | locally it goes well | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | jelmer: btw who can i talk to about a bug in recipes? the {debupstream} variable doesnt seem to pick up epoch's from changelogs | 17:48 |
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| jelmer | shadeslayer: James Westby (james_w), or at least he should be able to tell you who to talk to instead. | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | james_w: hi there | 18:08 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: Although I think that's actually correct behaviour, the epoch is not part of the upstream version. | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | jelmer: err.. really? | 18:08 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: yes, the epoch is just there as a convenience for when the package maintainer screws up. | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | see the problem becomes with upgrades, without the epoch the build is of no use :P | 18:09 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: how do you mean? | 18:09 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: Can you give an example? | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | so basically apt-get says : 1:foo is greater than just foo.. why would i want to install foo when i have 1:foo | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | more practical example coming up.. :D | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | jelmer: https://edge.launchpad.net/~team-iquik/+archive/tools | 18:10 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: right, but you could include that 1: manually. | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | see under lm-sensors | 18:10 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: it's not really something that you'd want to be included automatically. | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | jelmer: yeah i added to the recipe for now :) | 18:10 |
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| shadeslayer | also see ~ppa1 should come after ~lucid1 | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | but for some insane reason it isnt :( | 18:11 |
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| jelmer | shadeslayer: That's the correct way of doing it imho. I don't think we should be updating the epoch automatically. | 18:11 |
| james_w | I think that maybe we should | 18:11 |
| jelmer | hi James | 18:12 |
| james_w | I don't see a use case for wanting a lower epoch | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | i agree.. but when the packager specifies that he needs {debupstream} he means he wants the epoch | 18:12 |
| maxb | <shadeslayer> also see ~ppa1 should come after ~lucid1 but for some insane reason it isnt :( | 18:13 |
| maxb | uh, p is greater than l, you cannot reorder the alphabet :-) | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | maxb: err.. when i upload to my ppa, its always : ~distro1~ppa1 | 18:14 |
| jelmer | james_w: it can also mean a higher epoch | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | i wonder what happens after 2 years ;) | 18:14 |
| maxb | oh, right. I thought you were dealing with version comparison | 18:14 |
| james_w | jelmer: that's true | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | maxb: no.. its just that my package versioning is screwed up :( | 18:15 |
| james_w | I think it's low impact anyway | 18:15 |
| james_w | epochs are relatively rare, and changing them is even rarer | 18:15 |
| james_w | shadeslayer: please file a bug on bzr-builder | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | james_w: alrighty :) | 18:15 |
| james_w | we can track the issue and see if more cases come up | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | james_w: see imo only sensible people will bump epoch... but then you can never say anything about the other 1 % of people who will bump epoch for no reason at all :P | 18:16 |
| maxb | If the design purpose of {debupstream} is to allow people to derive a debian version based on what's in the tree, but with a modified revision, would that not only make sense to include the epoch? | 18:17 |
| jelmer | maxb: Hmm, that's a good point. | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | maxb: my point exactly | 18:17 |
| maxb | And if that's not the design purpose of it, what is :-) | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | btw LP is really slooow today :P | 18:18 |
| jelmer | I guess my main issue with it is that I don't think of the debian upstream version as including the epoch, but then again I don't have better naming suggestions. | 18:18 |
| jelmer | Also, I seem to be complaining about naming a lot today for some reason. | 18:18 |
| maxb | I'm in agreement - the upstream version doesn't include the epoch - but this thing we want here in bzr-builder (version-minus-revision) doesn't have a nice name | 18:20 |
| maxb | shadeslayer: Now that I understand what you meant about the ~ppa1 / ~lucid1 ordering, I think that bzr-builder / LP is doing the right thing, it's just different from the methodology you were using | 18:23 |
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| shadeslayer | maxb: hmm.. well ok | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | oh man | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | james_w: lp still says : Please wait while bug data is processed. This page will refresh every 10 seconds until processing is complete. | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | for the past 15 mins :P | 18:26 |
| james_w | shadeslayer: you used ubuntu-bug bzr-builder? | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | i shouldnt have? | 18:27 |
| james_w | that's fine, just making sure | 18:27 |
| james_w | if you got that message from some other mechanism then something is very wrong :-) | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 18:28 |
| james_w | I don't know what could be causing that, except for whaetever processes them being stuck? | 18:28 |
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| shadeslayer | possibly | 18:28 |
| james_w | I'm going to guess it's process-apport-blobs.py that does that | 18:29 |
| james_w | losa ping: is there anything obviously wrong with process-apport-blobs? | 18:29 |
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| Chex | james_w: let me look | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | james_w: ok i just refreshed the page and it works now 0_o | 18:31 |
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| james_w | shadeslayer: ok, great | 18:31 |
| james_w | Chex: thanks. seems to be working now ^, but maybe there was a backlog. | 18:31 |
| Chex | james_w: hmm, ok, no worries then | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | bug 613942 | 18:39 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 613942 in bzr-builder (Ubuntu) "bzr-builder does not take epoch into consideration when using {debupstream} in recipe (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613942 | 18:39 |
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| cody-somerville | I frequently get incomplete reads from launchpad when using API. Is this a known issue and is it launchpad's fault or just unavoidable network glitch? | 19:49 |
| james_w | cody-somerville: as in httplib2 errors about "incomplete reads"? | 19:52 |
| cody-somerville | httplib.IncompleteRead, yup | 19:53 |
| james_w | cody-somerville: I see plenty too. I'm not sure what the cause is, but a perfect connection shouldn't be expected | 19:55 |
| james_w | I think Launchpad causes more than its fair share of this sort of error. | 19:55 |
| mgariepy | hello, simple question, is it possible to get the debdiff of an old package of my ppa ? | 20:01 |
| james_w | mgariepy: not if that package has been deleted for a while, no | 20:02 |
| mgariepy | i pushed a newer version of the package, i can still fin the url for the binary packages but not the source | 20:03 |
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| daveisadork | hey i just set up daily builds with a recipe and in the uploaded by column it says "no signer" | 20:45 |
| daveisadork | is that the expected behavior or am i doing it wrong? | 20:45 |
| daveisadork | woops, nevermind... just found #581920 | 20:48 |
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| liori | hello, staging.launchpad.net is down? | 21:33 |
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| thumper | liori: probably | 22:11 |
| thumper | losa: is staging down? | 22:11 |
| mbarnett | thumper: yes, staging is not happy at the moment. | 22:13 |
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