| micahg | km0r3: what should have been a crash report, but ended up not being one | 00:00 |
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| km0r3 | micahg: ok, agreed | 00:01 |
| micahg | km0r3: needs-upstream-report is Kubuntu specific accrording to the wiki | 00:01 |
| km0r3 | micahg: I'm sorry. I'll fix that, too. | 00:02 |
| micahg | km0r3: don't worry, triaging is a learning process that we're all involved in | 00:02 |
| km0r3 | micahg: done | 00:04 |
| micahg | km0r3: nice :) | 00:04 |
| km0r3 | micahg: yes, I'm pretty unexperiences as a triager. Thanks a lot for your time. :) | 00:04 |
| micahg | km0r3: do you have a mentor yet? | 00:04 |
| km0r3 | s/unexperiences/unexperienced | 00:05 |
| km0r3 | micahg: yes | 00:05 |
| micahg | km0r3: ok, good | 00:05 |
| maxwellian | micahg: What was ubot2 getting on about? :) | 00:35 |
| micahg | maxwellian: its programmers goofing :) | 00:35 |
| maxwellian | micahg: Someone made it do that? | 00:36 |
| trinikrono | ping ddecator | 00:36 |
| micahg | maxwellian: well, it's code to fetch sf bugs must be biggy | 00:36 |
| micahg | *buggy | 00:36 |
| maxwellian | micahg: Ah, I see. So it does that if you mention a non-existent bug in one of the trackers? | 00:37 |
| micahg | maxwellian: the bug exists, it just didn't see t | 00:37 |
| maxwellian | micahg: Hmm...how do you ask it about bugs from non-launchpad trackers? | 00:38 |
| micahg | maxwellian: well, in this case a link was posted, but usually, you can just type the nickname of the tracker and the number like: sf 3039712 | 00:39 |
| maxwellian | micahg: Ah, cool. Thanks for the info. :) Is there a bug on ubot2 for this already? :) | 00:40 |
| micahg | ubot2: sf 3039712 | 00:40 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'sf 3039712' not found | 00:40 |
| micahg | sourceforge 3039712 | 00:40 |
| * maxwellian has been poking ubot2 in private messages trying to replicate that behavior. :) | 00:41 | |
| trinikrono | i dont think it does sourceforge ones | 00:44 |
| trinikrono | it doesnt say anything about it on the wikipage anyways | 00:45 |
| maxwellian | trinikrono: Ah, thanks. That would be a useful feature, though...? | 00:46 |
| trinikrono | maxwellian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Factoids | 00:46 |
| trinikrono | it has which ones it does at the bottom | 00:46 |
| maxwellian | trinikrono: Thanks again. Good info there. | 00:47 |
| * maxwellian is intrigued by the mention of an #ubuntu-bots channel. | 00:48 | |
| trinikrono | i just normally pm ubot | 00:50 |
| maxwellian | trinikrono: I've been doing that just now, but I think it's cool that we have a bot channel. :) | 00:50 |
| maxwellian | trinikrono: The topic says we can ask "bestbot" what the best things are, but bestbot's not in the channel. >:( | 00:50 |
| trinikrono | maxwellian: i just joined that channel | 00:51 |
| trinikrono | its only ubottu in there | 00:51 |
| dlbike76 | Hello | 02:01 |
| maxwellian | Hi dlbike76. | 02:02 |
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| pedro_ | hello bugsquad! | 14:21 |
| vish | hmm, we have a visitor .. | 14:25 |
| Watson516 | Hello | 14:26 |
| vish | hmm, the guest is back.. | 14:27 |
| pedro_ | hey vish | 14:28 |
| vish | hello pedro_ welcome to bugsquad channel , we help triage bugs here ;) | 14:28 |
| pedro_ | yay! | 14:29 |
| hggdh | pedro_: !! you are back!! | 14:32 |
| * hggdh now feels extremely more confortable | 14:32 | |
| * pedro_ hugs hggdh | 14:32 | |
| tawmas | Hi! Could someone please set https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/578909 back to Triaged? | 14:33 |
| * hggdh hugs pedro_ | 14:33 | |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 578909 in linux (Ubuntu) "acer_wmi blocks wlan rfkill status to disabled on Acer Aspire 4820TG (affects: 1) (heat: 47)" [High,Incomplete] | 14:33 |
| hggdh | tawmas: actually, it should go back to New | 14:34 |
| tawmas | hggdh: it was Triaged | 14:34 |
| tawmas | could you please explain why it has to go back to new? | 14:39 |
| vish | tawmas: tried asking in -kernel ? they have a different system of doing things | 14:41 |
| hggdh | tawmas: after reading the whole bug, plus the log, I agree. Setting to Triage | 14:42 |
| hggdh | d | 14:42 |
| tawmas | vish: not yet... the big went through the kernel triage already... then someone asked to check if a patch (blacklisting a totally different Acer model) fixed my problem, which it didn't | 14:43 |
| tawmas | I tested and replied, but the status is still set to Incomplete | 14:44 |
| tawmas | *bug | 14:44 |
| vish | tawmas: yeah , they get a huge load of bugs , not really easy for them to keep track either. | 14:44 |
| hggdh | tawmas: it really does not matter that much, given that Manoj is assigned to the bug | 14:44 |
| tawmas | hggdh: I see... but, as a bug reporter, the experience of having to come on IRC three weeks later to know that it doesn't matter which status my bug is in is a bit frustrating | 14:46 |
| JoshuaL | I usually feel ignored by the developers :P | 14:49 |
| tawmas | hggdh: I mean, I do know that there's a lot of hard work going on, and not enough manpower to do it, but the feeling is that you've been overlooked | 14:50 |
| hggdh | tawmas: it is not that the Status does not matter, but that Manoj is assigned (or, rather, assigned himself) to the bug. So Manoj has already received your response | 14:51 |
| hggdh | tawmas: and -- if the bug is unassigned, then moving it to New (from Incomplete) will signal that a response to a question was provided | 14:52 |
| hggdh | JoshuaL: well, I usually feel ignored by everybody ;-) | 14:53 |
| JoshuaL | hggdh, except now ;) | 14:53 |
| hggdh | well, yes indeed :-) | 14:53 |
| JoshuaL | I have reported a bug months ago, and only recently it got Triaged. I wonder how long I can wait before it will be solved. | 14:55 |
| tawmas | hggdh: yes, I know... it's just that it's been like that for three weeks at least... hence, one is left wondering what's going on | 14:55 |
| hggdh | tawmas: mostly lack of (hu)manpower. This is why we get so happy when more people come in to help | 14:56 |
| tawmas | hggdh: OK, I'll step down and wait patiently... and anyway this laptop has bugs more severe than that one ;-) | 14:59 |
| hggdh | :-) | 14:59 |
| JoshuaL | I always wonder how they can break things that worked previously. | 14:59 |
| JoshuaL | Like the last time I tried to put my laptop into sleep mode, it did not work. It did in 10.04 | 15:00 |
| hggdh | JoshuaL: code changes do that. And none of us have all the possible combination of hardware to fully test everything | 15:01 |
| hggdh | for example, the official part list of my laptop (still available from Dell) does not match the components I got | 15:01 |
| tawmas | JoshuaL: software development is a little bit like building a card castle, you add a card on the right and suddenly the left wing collapses :-) | 15:01 |
| hggdh | Dell changed the sound chip for one "100% compatible" | 15:02 |
| JoshuaL | tawmas, hggdh, i am a software developer myself, i never had a change that broke something that worked previously :) | 15:02 |
| hggdh | unfortunately it is not | 15:02 |
| tawmas | JohuaL: you're better than I am, then ;-) | 15:02 |
| hggdh | JoshuaL: It depends on how much your software does. Very dedicated software, for example, may be better tested. By a kernel... | 15:03 |
| hggdh | s/By/But/ | 15:03 |
| JoshuaL | ghmm true | 15:04 |
| tawmas | JoshuaL: yes, it depends very much on how complex is your software and how large and varied your deployed base is... | 15:04 |
| JoshuaL | if i have the time i will create a bug report for it, im sure they want me to test the latest upstream kernel | 15:05 |
| hggdh | JoshuaL: heh. Always. We need to know if what you experience is due to a local Ubuntu delta, or pure vanilla kernel | 15:05 |
| JoshuaL | Furthermore I like the bug hunting. But in most cases my bugs are already reported lol | 15:08 |
| tawmas | Going away. Bye and thanks! | 15:10 |
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| nigelb | ubuntu tweak disucssion is getting pretty interesting. | 17:28 |
| yofel | nigelb: where? I saw it being discussed in -motu once | 17:30 |
| nigelb | yofel: mailing list | 17:30 |
| holstein | PPA purge FTW | 17:30 |
| holstein | thats why i installed tweak | 17:31 |
| holstein | the rest of it is pretty cool too | 17:31 |
| holstein | easy way to remove unwanted kernels | 17:31 |
| * holstein will have to find that ongoing discussion | 17:31 | |
| yofel | ppa-purge is in maverick and lucid-backports | 17:31 |
| holstein | id like to know what the arguments are, pro and con | 17:31 |
| holstein | yeah, i didnt know about it though | 17:32 |
| holstein | a nice 'un-bork' button :) | 17:32 |
| yofel | well, generally: why write an app to change settings for apps and not make those things changegable in the apps themselves | 17:33 |
| JoshuaL | i always liked ubuntu tweak to remove unwanted kernels :) | 17:33 |
| yofel | gnome simplicity in the way I guess | 17:33 |
| JoshuaL | and clean up unused configs | 17:33 |
| maco | JoshuaL: thats what computer janitor is for | 17:33 |
| JoshuaL | maco, i c | 17:34 |
| JoshuaL | never used it untill now :D | 17:35 |
| nigelb | ubuntu tweak lets the user make pretty invasive changes | 17:35 |
| yofel | well, ubuntu-tweak certainly is much better than ultamatix at least... used it in the past too a few times | 17:40 |
| micahg | ugh, now the discusssion is in here? | 17:40 |
| holstein | hehe | 17:41 |
| nigelb | micahg: lol | 17:44 |
| vish | hmm , which ml is this? seems to not be ddl , dl or desktop | 17:46 |
| yofel | vish: motu ml | 17:46 |
| vish | ah. | 17:46 |
| yofel | vish: start here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2010-August/006804.html | 17:46 |
| vish | yofel: thanks. :) | 17:47 |
| vish | well , that was an interesting thread :D | 18:24 |
| atrus | bug 398300 confuses me. it's marked 'fix released' in gdm, but not for karmic or lucid. is this a fix that's ever made it to the public? | 18:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 398300 in gdm (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 3 other projects) "The new gdm doesn't give an option to run /etc/X11/Xsession (affects: 34) (dups: 5) (heat: 211)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398300 | 18:43 |
| atrus | in particular, users under lucid still don't seem to have an option to run a .xinitrc | 18:44 |
| Pici | Looks like it dropped into lucid-proposed. | 18:45 |
| atrus | Pici: i don't see it in lucid-proposed | 18:45 |
| atrus | the fix discussed is in lucid-updates, but it doesn't address the problem (it doesn't include a /usr/share/xsessions/ file for the user session) | 18:46 |
| hggdh | OK. eeeBotu will (again) pop off 5 minutes due to a reboot on new kernel. | 18:49 |
| JoshuaL | :) | 18:52 |
| hggdh | and... eeeBotu now resumes normal programming. Thank you for your patience. | 18:52 |
| nigelb | pedro_: poke? | 19:32 |
| pedro_ | nigelb, hello | 19:32 |
| nigelb | pedro_: did we break the surprise to hggdh ? | 19:33 |
| pedro_ | nigelb, you mean... our secret? | 19:33 |
| nigelb | heh, yeah | 19:34 |
| pedro_ | oh it's a secret so shhh | 19:34 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, ^ | 19:34 |
| nigelb | heh | 19:34 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, another clue... "can be used in the water" | 19:35 |
| nigelb | pedro_: what are your thoughts on patch day next thursdat? | 19:35 |
| nigelb | *day rather | 19:35 |
| pedro_ | nigelb, sounds fine to me, i was reading the email a few minutes ago and realized it was Aug 05 already | 19:35 |
| nigelb | heh | 19:35 |
| nigelb | yeah | 19:35 |
| pedro_ | so yeah next Thursday sounds fine, let's organize something for that day | 19:35 |
| nigelb | cool, i'll do some stuff over the weekend :) | 19:36 |
| pedro_ | awesome, i'll update the planning page in a bit | 19:37 |
| hggdh | pedro_: I can think of several things that can be used in the water. Most of them nasty :-) | 19:37 |
| pedro_ | ! | 19:38 |
| hggdh | !! | 19:38 |
| pedro_ | I'm not reading that comment again | 19:38 |
| hggdh | LOL | 19:38 |
| pedro_ | :-P | 19:38 |
| hggdh | now I cannot think of *anything* that can be used in the water :-( | 19:38 |
| hggdh | pedro_: sharks? It is shark week now... | 19:45 |
| pedro_ | mm close close | 19:46 |
| hggdh | barracuda? | 19:46 |
| Hankyone | If i was to file a bug for a non working webcam, what log/file should I submit it with? | 20:01 |
| micahg | Hankyone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 20:02 |
| Hankyone | micahg: Thanks! | 20:03 |
| micahg | Hankyone: np | 20:03 |
| JoshuaL | I have this bug where if i plug in my headphones it does not switch to the connector automaticly, i have to do it manually. same with unplugging. | 20:44 |
| JoshuaL | What package should be used to report this bug? | 20:44 |
| Pici | JoshuaL: I think you can just issue: ubuntu-bug audio and it will take care of the rest. | 20:46 |
| JoshuaL | Pici, ok ty | 20:46 |
| simar | sense: Hi | 21:07 |
| sense | hello simar | 21:07 |
| simar | sense: :)) | 21:07 |
| simar | sense: I am writing email for applying to ubuntu-bugsquad team. | 21:07 |
| sense | simar: Ubuntu Bug Control, I hope. ;) | 21:07 |
| simar | sense: I have read the prerequisites of joining .. | 21:07 |
| sense | simar: Please do note that I will be leaving tomorrow morning for a two week holiday. I won't be able to express my support then. | 21:08 |
| simar | sense: ya Ubuntu Bug control | 21:08 |
| simar | sense: so for two weeks you are not going to be on net? | 21:08 |
| sense | nope | 21:08 |
| simar | sense: :( | 21:08 |
| sense | simar: When will you be sending your application? | 21:09 |
| simar | sense: I think right now in max 30 mins. | 21:09 |
| simar | sense: If you are out of time I can speed up | 21:10 |
| sense | simar: I'm not out of time. :) Don't rush it! If you're really finished in 30 minutes that would be awesome and I'll be able to respond to it. | 21:11 |
| simar | sense: fine enough :) | 21:12 |
| simar | sense: I hope I will do in 30 mins | 21:12 |
| sense | Don't rush! | 21:13 |
| hggdh | sense: you are mentoring simar? | 21:24 |
| sense | hggdh: yes | 21:25 |
| hggdh | good. Your opinion will be enough, then ;-) | 21:25 |
| sense | ah! | 21:25 |
| hggdh | :-) | 21:25 |
| hggdh | the beauty of mentorship | 21:25 |
| sense | He's doing great. Showing lots of initiative, even started to document things. Now he wants to work more on bug fixes, but first I recommended him to go for Ubuntu Bug Control membership since he's ready for it and since it will help him with his further work. | 21:26 |
| stlsaint | vish: ping | 21:48 |
| simar | sense: Should I email to bug control now. | 22:06 |
| simar | sense: I'm finished | 22:06 |
| sense | simar: If you're ready, please do. :) | 22:07 |
| simar | sense: ya, :) | 22:07 |
| sense | good! | 22:08 |
| simar | sense: I hope you can see my mail in ubuntu bug control mail list | 22:12 |
| sense | I should receive it in a moment! | 22:12 |
| simar | sense: np | 22:13 |
| yofel | sense: you can see moderated mails? | 22:17 |
| sense | yofel: Ah, moderation! | 22:17 |
| sense | argh | 22:17 |
| sense | I cannot | 22:17 |
| sense | pedro_: Are you there? | 22:17 |
| yofel | hggdh: ^ | 22:18 |
| sense | ah, he too | 22:18 |
| sense | Anyone! ;) | 22:18 |
| pedro_ | sense, looking at it now | 22:18 |
| sense | thanks | 22:18 |
| pedro_ | done | 22:18 |
| sense | thanks | 22:18 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 22:19 |
| sense | simar: The mailing list archive of this month can be found at <https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugcontrol/>. You can follow the applications there while you're still pending. | 22:21 |
| simar | sense thanks | 22:22 |
| sense | https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugcontrol/threads.html is clearer | 22:22 |
| simar | sense: have you seen the email? how do you like it. | 22:23 |
| sense | I'm just looking at it! | 22:23 |
| sense | simar: You were aware that the Apport retracer should remove CoreDump.gz files itself when it has retraced everything? | 22:23 |
| BUGabundo | sense: OT : http://www.last.fm/robots.txt LOLOLOL Disallow: /harming/humans | 22:24 |
| simar | sense: ya but i talked about when it do not remove the coredump.gz file.. | 22:25 |
| dlbike76 | Hello | 22:25 |
| dlbike76 | Has anyone looked at Bug 613618? | 22:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 613618 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "Unable to change UID from users-admin gui (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613618 | 22:25 |
| dlbike76 | I can confirm that it is occuring on my lucid installation as well. | 22:26 |
| sense | simar: OK, good. | 22:26 |
| simar | sense: :) | 22:28 |
| hggdh | yofel: what was it? | 22:28 |
| hggdh | oh | 22:28 |
| hggdh | OK | 22:29 |
| simar | sense: k sense its 3:15 here in india. I'm gono sleep now. Wish you a very happy and cool vacation. c ya later :> | 22:45 |
| sense | simar: OK! Sleep well and thank you! | 22:46 |
| yofel | hm, he's gone | 22:57 |
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