[00:18] <godbyk> jenkins: I responded to Phil's email. I'm not sure if I addressed his concerns or not, though.  I kind of started rambling.  And then stopped myself before going off on translations and how they're painful.
[00:19] <jenkins> yea, I did also wonder how we would deal with the different writing styles, it had slipped my mind ages ago an I forgot about it
[00:20] <godbyk> I don't think there's a really good answer.
[00:20] <godbyk> But I think that sharing our docs still has a lot of benefit.
[00:20] <godbyk> It'd certainly help us keep things in sync more easily than how we're doing it now.
[00:21] <jenkins> I think your explanation is great! we all branch from the pool, we all help to maintain it and base our work on it
[00:21]  * jenkins hopes he read it right
[00:21] <godbyk> yeah, pretty much.
[00:22] <godbyk> we have a common pool that we can pull from and contribute back to.
[00:22] <godbyk> and the system will keep track of diffs and pedigree and the like.
[00:23] <godbyk> so if one of us updates a doc because, say, the software has changed, then the docs derived from that one can be notified of the change so someone can update them accordingly.
[00:24] <jenkins> I like it :D
[00:25] <godbyk> and translations.. oh, man, there are so many things I think we should do to improve translations!
[00:27] <jenkins> yea they are not the best
[00:28] <godbyk> But before I go off on that topic too much, I'd prefer to sit down with some of our translators and get their opinions and ideas (since they're the ones who have to deal with it).
[00:30] <jenkins> yep I agree, there is so much we would like to do we need like 20 of each of us
[00:32] <godbyk> yeah.
[00:32] <godbyk> working full-time. :)
[00:37] <ChrisWoollard>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
[00:37] <ChrisWoollard>                                                                                                                                               godbyk
[00:37] <ChrisWoollard> hmm. that's werid
[00:40] <ChrisWoollard> ping godbyk
[00:47] <godbyk> Hey, ChrisWoollard.
[00:47] <godbyk> What's up?
[01:03] <jenkins> night all
[01:36] <godbyk> askhl_: I think new builds of the manual are online now.  http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/
[01:48] <askhl_> godbyk, thank you
[02:00] <godbyk> np
[13:34] <humphreybc> hey so daker what's happening with the quickshot website and the new ubuntu manual website?
[13:35] <daker> hi humphreybc
[13:35] <daker> so i have just finished
[13:35] <daker> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1582176372&v=wall&story_fbid=120633797984533&ref=mf
[13:36] <daker> i'll start working on them
[13:36] <humphreybc> ahh
[13:36] <humphreybc> cool :)
[13:37] <dutchie> humphreybc: did you hear from jenkins about the reshuffle on LP?
[13:37] <humphreybc> yep, sure did, told him to go ahead and do it
[15:53] <daker> hey @all
[15:53] <daker> what edition should be translated ?
[15:54] <daker> e1 or e2 ?
[15:54] <nisshh> daker: e1, until e2 is in writing freeze i think
[15:55] <daker> when e2 freezes we have to retranslated everything ?
[16:07] <nisshh> daker: im not sure, you should ask godbyk/humphreybc about that
[16:07] <nisshh> but i assume so yea
[16:08] <daker> nisshh, oki
[16:08] <nisshh> daker: cool
[20:11] <jenkins> dutchie: / godbyk /godbyk-sagan Ubuntu Manual Admins or Ubuntu Manual Maintainers ?
[20:12] <jenkins> for the new group
[20:19] <dutchie> admins gets my vote
[20:21] <jenkins> yea I decided maintainers looked as if only we wrote it. admins it is
[20:21] <jenkins> brb
[20:25] <c7p> hello all
[20:28] <zkriesse> Hello c7p
[20:44] <jenkins> dutchie: / godbyk-sagan / godbyk https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual-admins
[20:44] <jenkins> does it all look ok?
[20:46] <dutchie> don't think it should be a public team
[20:46] <dutchie> oh, it isn't
[20:47] <dutchie> dunno why it says "Public team" at the top then
[20:47] <jenkins> only admins can add people we are all admin in the team
[20:48] <jenkins> I am not sure why it says public, otherwise people will not know which team to join if they can't see the link at the top of the page
[20:54] <jenkins> now it looks better, I will go ahead an change it lets hope I don't break anything
[20:56] <jenkins> right it is changed, lets wait and see if there are any complaints
[20:58] <jenkins>  / breackages
[21:29] <nisshh> jenkins: hey, you there?
[21:30] <jenkins> yep
[21:30] <nisshh> ok
[21:30] <nisshh> was just reading my mail and saw the admin groupd for the manual
[21:30] <nisshh> whats that about?
[21:31] <nisshh> jenkins: ^^^^
[21:31] <jenkins> its to stop settings pages like https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+settings being changed by random people, we have had problems with it being changed and we don't know who did it
[21:31] <nisshh> ah
[21:32] <jenkins> all the branches still work and everything else is done by the normal team
[21:32] <jenkins> brb
[21:32] <nisshh> ok
[21:32] <nisshh> i get it now, thanks jenkins :)
[21:32] <jenkins> i was chatting on #launchpad to wgrant and that was the suggestion.
[21:32] <jenkins> cool :)
[21:32] <nisshh> yea
[21:33] <jenkins> all the people in it are the admins for the manual team
[21:33] <nisshh> yea
[21:34] <jenkins> hopefully there are not any breakages with the changes
[21:36] <nisshh> jenkins: lets hope so, but its unlikely given the fact that we are adding to the existing team, not subtracting
[21:36] <nisshh> jenkins: plus, the fact that wgrant suggested leads me to believe that its been done before :)
[21:37] <jenkins> well he did not directly suggest it he said something like you should not have a team that big owning a project
[22:23] <godbyk> jenkins: I think the admins team page looks okay.
[22:23] <godbyk> jenkins: Did you switch over the bzr commit access and translation stuff (permissions)?
[22:27] <jenkins> godbyk: commit access still for the normal team ubuntu-manual
[22:28] <jenkins> translation permissons and other settings are now only changed by the 7 people in the team. thats how it should work
[22:38] <jenkins> godbyk: is there anything else that needs checking to see if it is correct?
[22:45] <godbyk> I think those are the main two.
[22:45] <godbyk> we haven't had any real problems with people committing stuff (that I recall).  primarily, I just don't like the translation stuff being changed randomly.
[23:00] <jenkins> thanks godbyk, hopefully this will solve the problem
[23:00] <jenkins> * help to
[23:09] <nisshh> jenkins: btw, can you push your work on the dev manual to lp? id like to have a read, just to see what you have come up with
[23:09] <jenkins> yea sure I have not done much but it is a start
[23:09] <nisshh> cool
[23:10] <nisshh> ill be doing a crapload of work on the dev manual today as well
[23:12] <nisshh> jenkins: you know where the trunk branch is on lp right?
[23:13] <jenkins> yea I am jsut pushing I had to make it to check for errors :)
[23:13] <jenkins> pushed
[23:13] <nisshh> ok cool
[23:14] <jenkins> I just need to cover the 4 commads that were listed to go into that chapter
[23:15] <nisshh> right
[23:15] <nisshh> jenkins: did you forget to do bzr add?
[23:16] <jenkins> yep :(
[23:16] <nisshh> because your chapter isnt there :)
[23:16] <nisshh> hehe
[23:16] <nisshh> i ALWAYS forget to
[23:17] <jenkins> pushed again
[23:18] <nisshh> ok
[23:30] <nisshh> godbyk: you there?
[23:41] <godbyk> nisshh: yep. what's up?
[23:54] <nisshh> godbyk: ah, you are there, cool, ok, i just was looking for how to format links in the dev manual, i cant find anything in the style guide about it
[23:55] <nisshh> figured there must be some command for it
[23:59] <godbyk> nisshh: what kind of links?  like URLs?  if so, try \url{http://blah.com/blah/blah.html}.