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| micahg | chrisccoulson: when you get in crashreport failed to install in ff369 dailies | 08:16 |
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| jaes | hi | 13:15 |
| jaes | i just installed thunderbird-3.1 from the ubuntu mozilla team ppa and i'd like to post a minor bug but i didn't find where i should do that | 13:17 |
| fta | see the topic | 13:21 |
| jaes | fta: thank you, i didn't see it | 13:26 |
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| chrisccoulson | jaes - thunderbird not starting is a minor bug? ;) | 13:57 |
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| jaes | chrisccoulson: it was easily fixed, so it didn't alarmed me that much | 14:11 |
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| * micahg wonders why my test launch was good | 15:53 | |
| micahg | jaes: thank you for finding that bug :) | 15:57 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is FF40 worth a respin in the PPA? | 16:27 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: nm, I forgot there was a problem w/xul20 | 16:28 |
| micahg | fta: can you respin just TB31? | 16:28 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - it's waiting for xulrunner (which has failed) to build isn't it? | 16:28 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah ;) | 16:28 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I need to wait till Sunday for Thunderbird upload, maybe Sunday night, I need to dogfood it w/enigmail, upstream lightning and test locales and I can't do it before the weekend. upstream locales for 3.1.2 should be published today, I don't have enigmail updated yet | 16:30 |
| chrisccoulson | ok. i'll upload enigmail-locales for lucid in a minute, i'm clearing some sponsoring right now | 16:30 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: cool, thanks, BTW, I'll probably update instantbird this weekend as well | 16:31 |
| micahg | brb, need a reboot for kernel security uupdate | 16:32 |
| fta | micahg, chrisccoulson: umd refreshed | 17:01 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - thanks | 17:03 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - you forgot the bug number in the changelog for enigmail-locales ;) | 17:03 |
| micahg | I guess I did, sorry | 17:04 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, no worries. i've added it now | 17:04 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - enigmail-locales uploaded | 17:15 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: thanks, I hope it works :) | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | right, back to other work now i've sponsored that, connman and ofono :) | 17:24 |
| micahg | fta: thanks | 17:27 |
| micahg | fta: will you be around sunday for umd changes? | 17:27 |
| fta | <micahg> fta: will you be available on Sunday for a bot change re TB3? | 17:32 |
| fta | <fta> micahg, probably not until the evening, my time | 17:32 |
| fta | that was yesterday | 17:32 |
| micahg | fta: oh, sorry, missed that somehow, that's fine, whenever | 17:32 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I don't understand, is the daily PPA not building w/MIN_SYS_DEPS? | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - not yet. i've mostly finished it here already, but i didn't want to push it until i've made sure it still builds ok | 17:35 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: sorry, I meant 3.6 | 17:36 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, it should be for 3.6 | 17:36 |
| fta | i do i get a package dropped from the lucid queue? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= | 17:36 |
| micahg | so, I don't understand the fix for the FTBFS | 17:36 |
| micahg | fta: ask archive admin to reject the upload | 17:37 |
| fta | (the older python-pysnmp4) | 17:37 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - are you referring to the lpia build failures for 3.6? | 17:44 |
| micahg | yeah, I guess so | 17:44 |
| micahg | is that what happened? | 17:45 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i see what the issue is there | 17:45 |
| micahg | it's just that one arch | 17:45 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.6.head/revision/642 will fix that | 17:45 |
| chrisccoulson | (inadvertently) ;) | 17:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: that's what I don't get, I thought we were buillding with that already | 17:46 |
| micahg | or is it not on that arch | 17:46 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - it's only enabled on i386, amd64 and armel | 17:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ah, right | 17:46 |
| chrisccoulson | so it won't exist on lpia, but that commit should fix that now | 17:46 |
| vish | chrisccoulson: micahg: how does : http://paste.ubuntu.com/473629/ sound as an update for the ubufox description? | 18:51 |
| chrisccoulson | the short description seems a little wrong :/ | 18:51 |
| vish | oh! | 18:51 |
| micahg | vish: please file a bug on ubufox to change release notes to Ubuntu release notes | 18:52 |
| vish | chrisccoulson: that one is the old description | 18:52 |
| * micahg has to run | 18:52 | |
| vish | micahg: there is a bug already | 18:52 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, it doesn't really make sense | 18:52 |
| micahg | vish: k | 18:52 |
| vish | micahg: oh , i was thinking of a different bug.. i'll search and file one if not there | 18:53 |
| vish | chrisccoulson: this is what it is right now,> http://paste.ubuntu.com/473633/ | 18:54 |
| * vish looking to fix #123713 for maverick atleast ;) | 18:55 | |
| chrisccoulson | the short description should probably be more like "Ubuntu specific configuration defaults and apt support for Firefox" | 18:55 |
| vish | ah , nice catch! | 18:56 |
| * vish changes that too | 18:56 | |
| vish | chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473635/ better? | 19:01 |
| chrisccoulson | vish, yeah, seems to be | 19:04 |
| vish | chrisccoulson: neat thanks. | 19:04 |
| * vish pushes branch | 19:05 | |
| vish | micahg: found Bug #274605 | 19:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 274605 in ubufox (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 2 other projects) "Firefox release notes show Ubuntu release notes (affects: 14) (dups: 6) (heat: 64)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274605 | 19:05 |
| vish | oh he is not here .. | 19:05 |
| vish | https://code.launchpad.net/~vish/ubuntu/maverick/ubufox/bug123713/+merge/31872 | 19:42 |
| vish | do i have to set the reviewers to mozilla team or .. is that fine? | 19:42 |
| micahg | fta: do you mind if I write an apport hook for chromium? | 19:59 |
| vish | micahg: found Bug #274605 | 20:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 274605 in ubufox (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 2 other projects) "Firefox release notes show Ubuntu release notes (affects: 14) (dups: 6) (heat: 64)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274605 | 20:04 |
| vish | micahg: also , for : https://code.launchpad.net/~vish/ubuntu/maverick/ubufox/bug123713/+merge/31872 do i have to set the reviewers to mozilla team or .. is that fine? | 20:04 |
| micahg | vish: that should probably be UNRELEASED not maverick | 20:06 |
| micahg | I think chrisccoulson is planning an update | 20:06 |
| vish | oh , ok | 20:06 |
| * vish fixes | 20:06 | |
| fta | micahg, what do you want to add? | 20:11 |
| micahg | fta: oh, is there a hook already? | 20:12 |
| micahg | fta: I have some notes from evan from UDS on stuff he request | 20:12 |
| fta | micahg, no, i wanted to add one a long time ago, but couldn't think of anything useful. | 20:13 |
| fta | oh, where is that? | 20:13 |
| micahg | fta: I have it on another disk, I can try to pull it up next week sometime, would you be ok writing it then? | 20:14 |
| micahg | I'll add it to the blueprint for better apport support in browsers | 20:14 |
| fta | micahg, feel free to do it, i'm just curious about what's needed | 20:14 |
| micahg | fta: one of the things was which window manager | 20:14 |
| micahg | I think the other thing was an extensions list | 20:14 |
| micahg | vish: yeah, you can request review by the ubuntu-mozilla-uploaders team | 20:17 |
| vish | micahg: thanks , done. | 20:18 |
| micahg | vish: it's different as for some reason, we don't have a team branch for it, I guess asac wanted a little more control over it | 20:19 |
| micahg | s/more control/added controls | 20:20 |
| vish | micahg: oh , ubufox is not under the mozilla team ? odd... | 20:21 |
| micahg | vish: yep, but the uploaders can maintain the debian dir | 20:28 |
| vish | micahg: this merge is a change in the debian dir alone, right? | 20:29 |
| micahg | vish: yep :) | 20:29 |
| micahg | jdstrand: if the apparmor notify plugin supposed to not show alerts for profiles in complain mode? | 20:30 |
| micahg | *is | 20:30 |
| vish | micahg: so i'm confused now , why uploaders cant upload , or did you mean , this one uploaders /can/ upload :) | 20:31 |
| micahg | vish: uploaders can upload :), we just don't manage the "upstream' ubufox release | 20:31 |
| vish | ah , got it :) | 20:31 |
| jdstrand | micahg: is this on maverick? | 20:51 |
| micahg | jdstrand: no, lucid | 20:52 |
| jdstrand | micahg: it should show them. you may be running into kernel rate limiting | 20:53 |
| micahg | hmm | 20:53 |
| jdstrand | disable rate limiting with kern.log via sysctl: | 20:54 |
| jdstrand | sudo sysctl -w kernel.printk_ratelimit=0 | 20:54 |
| jdstrand | micahg: well, are you saying you see the messages in kern.log, but that apparmor_notify isn't displaying them? | 20:54 |
| micahg | I think so | 20:55 |
| micahg | yes | 20:56 |
| komputes | Is there something special that needs to be done to have links clicked in thunderbird focus the firefox window upfront instead of in the background? | 20:58 |
| komputes | asac: ^ ? | 20:58 |
| asac | komputes: thats a decision of the design team basically | 20:59 |
| asac | e.g. apps should never come to front, but rather signal attention in the background | 20:59 |
| komputes | asac: right, it used to focus all the time before. good i havent gone crazy ;) | 20:59 |
| asac | thats my understanding. talk to mpt | 20:59 |
| chrisccoulson | are you using compiz? | 20:59 |
| asac | komputes: well there are bugs in metacity vs compiz | 20:59 |
| komputes | asac: I agree, just helping someone who likes the old behavior | 20:59 |
| asac | i think the compiz behaviour is the one UX always wanted | 21:00 |
| komputes | no compiz just metacity | 21:00 |
| asac | while metacity was always buggy (e.g. to front) | 21:00 |
| asac | then maybe they fixed the metacity bug finally | 21:00 |
| chrisccoulson | the compiz behaviour sucks. it either focuses windows when i don't want them, or doesn't focus windows when i do want them | 21:00 |
| komputes | asac: this has been the case for at leat 10.04 and I think 9.10 was where the new behavior was introduced | 21:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i've always found metacity to work better ;) | 21:00 |
| komputes | me too | 21:01 |
| chrisccoulson | the focus stealing logic in compiz is just completely broken IMO | 21:01 |
| asac | komputes: well. yes. its a mess :-P | 21:02 |
| asac | talk to desktop team what the actual wanted behaviour is | 21:02 |
| asac | i lost track of where we stand now | 21:02 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure the design team have had any influence on the current behaviour, i think it's actually just broken ;) | 21:02 |
| komputes | asac: as I said, I agree with mpt's design decision of "apps open in bkg" but is there a way to reverse it for users who prefer the old way. Either configuring metacity or about:config'ing ff or tb? | 21:03 |
| jdstrand | micahg: based on the code, it looks like it is only looking at AA_RECORD_DENIED. I am betting complain mode uses AA_RECORD_AUDIT | 21:04 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, apps opening in background is wrong | 21:04 |
| chrisccoulson | it should be: | 21:04 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: unless you call it explicitly | 21:04 |
| micahg | jdstrand: wouldn't it be benificial to at least have a config option for audit (maybe one already esxists) | 21:04 |
| chrisccoulson | apps open in fg unless you clicked anywhere else in between launching the app and it appearing | 21:04 |
| chrisccoulson | and that's how metacity (and mutter) already does it | 21:04 |
| jdstrand | micahg: profile in complain mode tends not not be as cool as one would like, since the application goes through different codes paths | 21:05 |
| chrisccoulson | brb, i have to shut down to undock, else X crashes | 21:05 |
| jdstrand | micahg: apparmor_notify could be adjusted. feel free to file a bug and attach a patch if you can | 21:05 |
| micahg | jdstrand: well, are the extra dirs in place for maverick so I can make changes to the firefox profile without having it overwritten every time? | 21:06 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I am actually working on it right now (well, before I started talking to you :) | 21:06 |
| asac | komputes: i think thats not that easy. | 21:06 |
| micahg | jdstrand: basically I need to keep adding /opt/source so I can attach debdiffs to lucid | 21:06 |
| micahg | s/lucid/LP | 21:06 |
| komputes | asac: well one can always wish | 21:06 |
| komputes | asac: thanks for the pointers, cheers | 21:07 |
| asac | its too long ago when i looked at the code. window manager could probably have a config switch for that ;) | 21:07 |
| asac | at least metacity and compiz are probably well integrated in gconf etc. but not sure what upstream says about it | 21:07 |
| fta | BUGabundo, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=50678 | 22:02 |
| * BUGabundo clicks | 22:02 | |
| BUGabundo | its that alright | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | thanks | 22:03 |
| * BUGabundo stars | 22:03 | |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i have no idea what Frederik Nnaji is talking about in response to the e-mail i posted to the ubuntu-desktop ML yesterday | 22:08 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: he wants to be an open source evangelist vicariously through ubufox :) | 22:09 |
| micahg | oh, wrong guy | 22:10 |
| micahg | he wants a bookmark service that auto updates with a focus on the user <-- weird, because we already focus the bookmarks on teh user | 22:11 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i couldn't work out what he was getting at :/ | 22:11 |
| chrisccoulson | never mind, i'll just ignore him ;) | 22:11 |
| micahg | k | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=50517 | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | this is the one really messing with me | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | can't use it at work | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | doesn't like ISA server | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | and squid was removed last week | 22:48 |
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