=== fta_ is now known as fta === mdeslaur-afk is now known as mdeslaur [08:16] chrisccoulson: when you get in crashreport failed to install in ff369 dailies === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:15] hi [13:17] i just installed thunderbird-3.1 from the ubuntu mozilla team ppa and i'd like to post a minor bug but i didn't find where i should do that [13:21] see the topic [13:26] fta: thank you, i didn't see it === fta_ is now known as fta [13:57] jaes - thunderbird not starting is a minor bug? ;) === fta_ is now known as fta [14:11] chrisccoulson: it was easily fixed, so it didn't alarmed me that much === fta_ is now known as fta [15:53] * micahg wonders why my test launch was good [15:57] jaes: thank you for finding that bug :) [16:27] chrisccoulson: is FF40 worth a respin in the PPA? [16:28] chrisccoulson: nm, I forgot there was a problem w/xul20 [16:28] fta: can you respin just TB31? [16:28] micahg - it's waiting for xulrunner (which has failed) to build isn't it? [16:28] yeah ;) [16:30] chrisccoulson: I need to wait till Sunday for Thunderbird upload, maybe Sunday night, I need to dogfood it w/enigmail, upstream lightning and test locales and I can't do it before the weekend. upstream locales for 3.1.2 should be published today, I don't have enigmail updated yet [16:30] ok. i'll upload enigmail-locales for lucid in a minute, i'm clearing some sponsoring right now [16:31] chrisccoulson: cool, thanks, BTW, I'll probably update instantbird this weekend as well [16:32] brb, need a reboot for kernel security uupdate [17:01] micahg, chrisccoulson: umd refreshed [17:03] fta - thanks [17:03] micahg - you forgot the bug number in the changelog for enigmail-locales ;) [17:04] I guess I did, sorry [17:04] heh, no worries. i've added it now [17:15] micahg - enigmail-locales uploaded [17:16] chrisccoulson: thanks, I hope it works :) [17:24] right, back to other work now i've sponsored that, connman and ofono :) [17:27] fta: thanks [17:27] fta: will you be around sunday for umd changes? [17:32] fta: will you be available on Sunday for a bot change re TB3? [17:32] micahg, probably not until the evening, my time [17:32] that was yesterday [17:32] fta: oh, sorry, missed that somehow, that's fine, whenever [17:35] chrisccoulson: I don't understand, is the daily PPA not building w/MIN_SYS_DEPS? [17:35] micahg - not yet. i've mostly finished it here already, but i didn't want to push it until i've made sure it still builds ok [17:36] chrisccoulson: sorry, I meant 3.6 [17:36] oh, it should be for 3.6 [17:36] i do i get a package dropped from the lucid queue? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= [17:36] so, I don't understand the fix for the FTBFS [17:37] fta: ask archive admin to reject the upload [17:37] (the older python-pysnmp4) [17:44] micahg - are you referring to the lpia build failures for 3.6? [17:44] yeah, I guess so [17:45] is that what happened? [17:45] micahg - i see what the issue is there [17:45] it's just that one arch [17:45] micahg - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.6.head/revision/642 will fix that [17:46] (inadvertently) ;) [17:46] chrisccoulson: that's what I don't get, I thought we were buillding with that already [17:46] or is it not on that arch [17:46] micahg - it's only enabled on i386, amd64 and armel [17:46] chrisccoulson: ah, right [17:46] so it won't exist on lpia, but that commit should fix that now [18:51] chrisccoulson: micahg: how does : http://paste.ubuntu.com/473629/ sound as an update for the ubufox description? [18:51] the short description seems a little wrong :/ [18:51] oh! [18:52] vish: please file a bug on ubufox to change release notes to Ubuntu release notes [18:52] chrisccoulson: that one is the old description [18:52] * micahg has to run [18:52] micahg: there is a bug already [18:52] hmmm, it doesn't really make sense [18:52] vish: k [18:53] micahg: oh , i was thinking of a different bug.. i'll search and file one if not there [18:54] chrisccoulson: this is what it is right now,> http://paste.ubuntu.com/473633/ [18:55] * vish looking to fix #123713 for maverick atleast ;) [18:55] the short description should probably be more like "Ubuntu specific configuration defaults and apt support for Firefox" [18:56] ah , nice catch! [18:56] * vish changes that too [19:01] chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473635/ better? [19:04] vish, yeah, seems to be [19:04] chrisccoulson: neat thanks. [19:05] * vish pushes branch [19:05] micahg: found Bug #274605 [19:05] Launchpad bug 274605 in ubufox (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 2 other projects) "Firefox release notes show Ubuntu release notes (affects: 14) (dups: 6) (heat: 64)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274605 [19:05] oh he is not here .. [19:42] https://code.launchpad.net/~vish/ubuntu/maverick/ubufox/bug123713/+merge/31872 [19:42] do i have to set the reviewers to mozilla team or .. is that fine? [19:59] fta: do you mind if I write an apport hook for chromium? [20:04] micahg: found Bug #274605 [20:04] Launchpad bug 274605 in ubufox (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 2 other projects) "Firefox release notes show Ubuntu release notes (affects: 14) (dups: 6) (heat: 64)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274605 [20:04] micahg: also , for : https://code.launchpad.net/~vish/ubuntu/maverick/ubufox/bug123713/+merge/31872 do i have to set the reviewers to mozilla team or .. is that fine? [20:06] vish: that should probably be UNRELEASED not maverick [20:06] I think chrisccoulson is planning an update [20:06] oh , ok [20:06] * vish fixes [20:11] micahg, what do you want to add? [20:12] fta: oh, is there a hook already? [20:12] fta: I have some notes from evan from UDS on stuff he request [20:13] micahg, no, i wanted to add one a long time ago, but couldn't think of anything useful. [20:13] oh, where is that? [20:14] fta: I have it on another disk, I can try to pull it up next week sometime, would you be ok writing it then? [20:14] I'll add it to the blueprint for better apport support in browsers [20:14] micahg, feel free to do it, i'm just curious about what's needed [20:14] fta: one of the things was which window manager [20:14] I think the other thing was an extensions list [20:17] vish: yeah, you can request review by the ubuntu-mozilla-uploaders team [20:18] micahg: thanks , done. [20:19] vish: it's different as for some reason, we don't have a team branch for it, I guess asac wanted a little more control over it [20:20] s/more control/added controls [20:21] micahg: oh , ubufox is not under the mozilla team ? odd... [20:28] vish: yep, but the uploaders can maintain the debian dir [20:29] micahg: this merge is a change in the debian dir alone, right? [20:29] vish: yep :) [20:30] jdstrand: if the apparmor notify plugin supposed to not show alerts for profiles in complain mode? [20:30] *is [20:31] micahg: so i'm confused now , why uploaders cant upload , or did you mean , this one uploaders /can/ upload :) [20:31] vish: uploaders can upload :), we just don't manage the "upstream' ubufox release [20:31] ah , got it :) [20:51] micahg: is this on maverick? [20:52] jdstrand: no, lucid [20:53] micahg: it should show them. you may be running into kernel rate limiting [20:53] hmm [20:54] disable rate limiting with kern.log via sysctl: [20:54] sudo sysctl -w kernel.printk_ratelimit=0 [20:54] micahg: well, are you saying you see the messages in kern.log, but that apparmor_notify isn't displaying them? [20:55] I think so [20:56] yes [20:58] Is there something special that needs to be done to have links clicked in thunderbird focus the firefox window upfront instead of in the background? [20:58] asac: ^ ? [20:59] komputes: thats a decision of the design team basically [20:59] e.g. apps should never come to front, but rather signal attention in the background [20:59] asac: right, it used to focus all the time before. good i havent gone crazy ;) [20:59] thats my understanding. talk to mpt [20:59] are you using compiz? [20:59] komputes: well there are bugs in metacity vs compiz [20:59] asac: I agree, just helping someone who likes the old behavior [21:00] i think the compiz behaviour is the one UX always wanted [21:00] no compiz just metacity [21:00] while metacity was always buggy (e.g. to front) [21:00] then maybe they fixed the metacity bug finally [21:00] the compiz behaviour sucks. it either focuses windows when i don't want them, or doesn't focus windows when i do want them [21:00] asac: this has been the case for at leat 10.04 and I think 9.10 was where the new behavior was introduced [21:00] i've always found metacity to work better ;) [21:01] me too [21:01] the focus stealing logic in compiz is just completely broken IMO [21:02] komputes: well. yes. its a mess :-P [21:02] talk to desktop team what the actual wanted behaviour is [21:02] i lost track of where we stand now [21:02] i'm not sure the design team have had any influence on the current behaviour, i think it's actually just broken ;) [21:03] asac: as I said, I agree with mpt's design decision of "apps open in bkg" but is there a way to reverse it for users who prefer the old way. Either configuring metacity or about:config'ing ff or tb? [21:04] micahg: based on the code, it looks like it is only looking at AA_RECORD_DENIED. I am betting complain mode uses AA_RECORD_AUDIT [21:04] hmmm, apps opening in background is wrong [21:04] it should be: [21:04] chrisccoulson: unless you call it explicitly [21:04] jdstrand: wouldn't it be benificial to at least have a config option for audit (maybe one already esxists) [21:04] apps open in fg unless you clicked anywhere else in between launching the app and it appearing [21:04] and that's how metacity (and mutter) already does it [21:05] micahg: profile in complain mode tends not not be as cool as one would like, since the application goes through different codes paths [21:05] brb, i have to shut down to undock, else X crashes [21:05] micahg: apparmor_notify could be adjusted. feel free to file a bug and attach a patch if you can [21:06] jdstrand: well, are the extra dirs in place for maverick so I can make changes to the firefox profile without having it overwritten every time? [21:06] micahg: I am actually working on it right now (well, before I started talking to you :) [21:06] komputes: i think thats not that easy. [21:06] jdstrand: basically I need to keep adding /opt/source so I can attach debdiffs to lucid [21:06] s/lucid/LP [21:06] asac: well one can always wish [21:07] asac: thanks for the pointers, cheers [21:07] its too long ago when i looked at the code. window manager could probably have a config switch for that ;) [21:07] at least metacity and compiz are probably well integrated in gconf etc. but not sure what upstream says about it [22:02] BUGabundo, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=50678 [22:02] * BUGabundo clicks [22:03] its that alright [22:03] thanks [22:03] * BUGabundo stars [22:08] hmmm, i have no idea what Frederik Nnaji is talking about in response to the e-mail i posted to the ubuntu-desktop ML yesterday [22:09] chrisccoulson: he wants to be an open source evangelist vicariously through ubufox :) [22:10] oh, wrong guy [22:11] he wants a bookmark service that auto updates with a focus on the user <-- weird, because we already focus the bookmarks on teh user [22:11] yeah, i couldn't work out what he was getting at :/ [22:11] never mind, i'll just ignore him ;) [22:12] k [22:48] fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=50517 [22:48] this is the one really messing with me [22:48] can't use it at work [22:48] doesn't like ISA server [22:48] and squid was removed last week