[00:13] <KE1HA> fader_, If your back, the thing I needed to do was open a terminal window, then "sudo oem-config-prepare". Then on reboot, it prompted me to enter my "normal / real owner info. Pretty slick actually, however, the test-Doc definately needs work.
[05:59] <bladernr> FYI, Kubuntu DVD d-i install failed earlier because the installer couldn't find any kernels...
[05:59] <bladernr> I found this same bug in Lucid and I think it was due to a bad config file, but I don't remember now...
[06:01]  * bladernr really should be in bed now...
[07:04] <ara> good morning
[09:31] <KE1HA> Is there a Wiki for the ubuntu-qa-tools ?
[09:43] <KE1HA> NVM .. RTFM worked :-)
[12:53]  * ara -> lunch
[14:11] <fader_> Howdy folks
[14:12] <davmor2> fader_: Yo dude wassup and Respec in an 80's stylee
[14:13] <fader_> davmor2: I agree with your carefully considered opinions.
[14:13] <davmor2> fader_: Peace out maaaaannnn...
[14:37] <bladernr> ara:  on ISO tracker, the "delete result" button is a great thing, but it needs a "Are you sure" dialog too... I just accidentally deleted a result that had lots of notes and 4 bugs attached :(
[14:37] <ara> bladernr, oops, sorry to hear that
[14:38] <davmor2> bladernr: muppet ;)
[14:40] <bladernr> fixed now.... by the way, those of you running Kubuntu tests in VBox: are you getting plasma-netbook or plasma-desktop?
[14:40] <bladernr> I just got netbook during the OEM install via DVD for AMD64
[14:42] <davmor2> Riddell: ^
[14:47] <Riddell> bladernr: what does laptop-detect && echo $?  give you ?
[14:48] <bladernr> too late... already moved on to a new test case/install :(
[14:48] <Riddell> bladernr: well on any vbox instance it should be the same
[14:48] <Riddell> laptop-detect; echo $?   rather
[14:48] <bladernr> I'm doing another Kubuntu install though, if it happens with this one, I'll check and let you know
[14:49] <Riddell> it should only boot netbook if it's a laptop, screen height is < 700 and there's no CD drive
[14:49] <bladernr> Other Kubuntu installs I've done in VBox though have given me the desktop env
[14:50] <bladernr> this one's almost done, I think, so I'll have an answer for you in a few minutes.
[14:56] <davmor2> Riddell: it might be triggered by OEM you know how it does funny things to installs ;)
[14:58] <Riddell> can't think why it would
[14:59] <davmor2> Riddell: Would it annoy you, if so that might be it right there :D
[15:00] <Riddell> OEM is like that indeed
[15:12] <bladernr> Riddell:  ok, so my plain Kubuntu install from DVD gave me desktop... I'll redo OEM and verify
[15:12] <Riddell> that's strange
[15:12] <Riddell> bladernr: what's the output of laptop-detect?
[15:13] <Riddell> bladernr: also, you're not having the same problems as you had yesterday with kubuntu?
[15:14] <bladernr> laptop-detect returns a 0
[15:14] <bladernr> and no, yesterday was a KVM issue, I believe... switched back to VirtualBox which has never given me problems
[15:15] <bladernr> Riddell:  ^^
[15:15] <Riddell> bladernr: ok two more commands for you
[15:15] <Riddell> xdpyinfo | grep dimensions | awk '{print $2}' | sed s,.*x,,
[15:16] <bladernr> weird: laptop-detect -v tells me that we're on a laptop because it found ACPI batteries
[15:16] <Riddell> lshal | grep "storage.drive_type = 'cdrom'" | awk '{print $3}' | sed "s,',," | sed "s,',,"
[15:18] <bladernr> the first one says 600, the second one says cdrom
[15:20] <Riddell> so that last one will stop it running as netbook
[15:20] <Riddell> I wonder why it didn't on your OEM install
[15:21] <Riddell> (don't spend too much time on it though, it's not a vital question)
[15:21] <bladernr> Dunno, I was going to redo the OEM just to check all that again and see if there IS a difference
[15:22] <bladernr> need anything else from this one before I shut it down?
[15:24] <Riddell> no, thanks bladernr
[16:18] <bladernr> Riddell:  On a fresh OEM install: laptop-detect = 0 (and says ACPI batteries found)
[16:18] <Riddell> bladernr: and the CD one?
[16:18] <bladernr> Riddell:  xdpyinfo says 600
[16:18] <bladernr> Riddell:  says cdrom
[16:18] <Riddell> bladernr: but it starts netbook?
[16:18] <bladernr> so exactly the same output and yes, starting netbook
[16:19] <Riddell> that's weird
[16:19] <bladernr> thinking back on the other Kubuntu tests I've done since yesterday, i'm reasonably sure that it's only the OEM installs I'm seeing netbook appear on
[16:19] <Riddell> what does   echo KDEDIRS   give you?
[16:22] <bladernr> /usr/share/kbuntu-netbook-default-settings/:/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default
[16:23] <Riddell> bladernr: ok thanks, could you report a bug on kdebase-workspace milestoned for beta and tagged "kubuntu"
[16:23] <bladernr> roger that
[16:37] <bladernr> Riddell:  bug 613879 bagged and tagged
[16:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 613879 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "Maverick A3 Kubuntu OEM install is installing netbook instead of desktop (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613879
[17:17] <bladernr> Riddell: FYI, just did a 32bit Kubuntu OEM install and did NOT see this issue... the only difference between the 32bit and 64bit VMs is 32bit has an IDE disk and 64bit has SATA (simulated)
[17:36] <Riddell> bladernr: now that's strange
[17:38] <bladernr> strange is my middle name
[17:39] <bladernr> I guess the next thing to try will be 32bit OEM install on my 64bit VM just to be double sure, but that'll have to wait until I give some other test cases some love
[18:34] <davmor2> hey guys does une work in vbox
[18:41] <fader_> davmor2: It should
[18:42] <davmor2> fader_: So you don't know then ;)
[18:42] <fader_> davmor2: Why don't you try it and see? :)
[18:42] <fader_> davmor2: I've done it in the past
[18:42] <davmor2> fader_: I got enough stuff on my system as it is thanks :P
[18:42] <fader_> Bah
[18:43]  * fader_ knows for a fact that davmor2 has multiple systems.
[18:43] <bladernr> davmor2:  not sure about UNE, but Kubuntu-netbook works in vbox (even when it's not supposed to be there ;-) )
[18:44] <davmor2> bladernr: une is on a 3d interface where as kne is on an accelerated 2d one
[18:44] <bladernr> vbox doesn't allow 2d accelerated in non-windwos OSs (at least Oracle VBox doesnt))
[18:44] <bladernr> errr... windows even
[18:45] <bladernr> hrmmm... maybe after adding vbox extensions...
[18:45] <davmor2> bladernr: 2d or 3d
[18:45] <bladernr> ack
[18:45] <davmor2> 2d just uses the standard driver
[18:46] <fader_> davmor2: Ah, you're talking about unity which uses clutter, right?
[18:46] <davmor2> fader_: yeap
[18:47] <fader_> davmor2: Okay, I haven't tried that ;)
[18:47] <davmor2> fader_: which in turn requires 3d
[18:47] <fader_> Yep
[18:47] <davmor2> fader_: I had it on my netbook but it died
[18:48] <davmor2> fader_: makes a nice paperweight thought