[00:00] <ZykoticK9> pepper_haze, 2010 10th month - you answered your own question... ;)
[00:00] <djstephen> does ubuntu still provide stickers free of charge
[00:00] <tsziklay> sparrW: I see, and to find the java files I would do something like "which java" correct?
[00:00] <aeon-ltd> ZykoticK9: damn you beat me, officer obvious :)
[00:00] <pepper_haze> Oh cool ZykoticK9 all 10s
[00:00] <Oer> ZykoticK9, the first time i mounted my dvd-rw, it took 1 minute to show the empty dvd-rw on desktop.
[00:00] <sparrW> tsziklay: possibly. 'which java' will probably lead you to a symlink to a symlink to a symlink to a binary somewhere under where JAVA_HOME should point :)
[00:00] <Pirat_Michi> hi, (wie) ist es möglich der Crontab zu sagen sie solle etwas jeden zweiten Sonntag ausführen?
[00:01] <ZykoticK9> Ramza, see Oer's comment above
[00:01] <pepper_haze> !de | Pirat_Michi
[00:01] <djstephen> so i take it they dont
[00:01] <tsziklay> sheesh, this seems way too complicated for something as simple as typing "grails dev run-app" into a terminal window...
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> djstephen, i've never heard of free stickers before - there MAY still be free CDs with shipit, but that's being phased out... :(
[00:03] <polter> you used to get stickers with the cd's
[00:03] <djstephen> i got my free cd today the last one i got last year came with free stickers
[00:03] <SH-Chris> RedLance_: Does teh alternate installer include a partitioner as well?
[00:03] <ZykoticK9> polter, djstephen i never got sticks with my 9.10 or 10.04 :(
[00:03] <RedLance_> SH-Chris: Yes, it does.
[00:03] <Pirat_Michi> @ pepper_haze sry, didn't mentioned speaking german. ;)
[00:03] <deanimean> system76 provides stickers, but they are the old style
[00:03] <deanimean> ubuntu sells newer ones
[00:03] <polter> ZykoticK9, I haven't used shipit cd's since 7.04 I think
[00:03] <djstephen> i wanted to get a powered by ubuntu sticker
[00:03] <Ramzes> Zykotick9:  thanks for the tip. Well this is weird. Cause I can play audio
[00:04] <Ramzes> CD via bankshee but cannot access via nautilus
[00:05] <ZykoticK9> Ramza, try putting a data CD in the drive - see if it automounts, if not try manually mounting it from CLI and see any errors
[00:05] <Ramza> ZykoticK9: Please hit tab one more time each time.
[00:05] <ZykoticK9> Ramza, sorry!
[00:05] <Ramza> np
[00:09] <Sia-> Hi, why FF doesnøt take spellchecker from aspel-* like pidgin and xchat, because FF in debian does and no need to install dictionary  from mozilla.org
[00:10] <StealFalcon> hi
[00:10] <soreau> Sia-: Ubuntu doesn't make firefox, mozilla does.
[00:10] <StealFalcon> i need help bad
[00:10] <StealFalcon> hello
[00:10] <soreau> ! ask | StealFalcon
[00:10] <Sia-> soreau, JUST TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I TALKING ABOUT
[00:10] <Ramzes> Zykotick9: Thanks for the help. I experimented with audio CDs before. when I used a data CD it automounted. I wonder why it does not with audio CDs? You saved me a lot of frustration
[00:11] <StealFalcon> i downloaded a song from frostwire and both my built in players have probs opening the
[00:11] <soreau> ! caps | Sia-
[00:11] <StealFalcon> them
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> Ramza, i don't think nautilus/ubuntu does audio cds by default... not sure.
[00:11] <maco> Ramzes: audio cds dont need to be mounted
[00:11] <Sia-> soreau, please dont write me something
[00:11] <maco> Ramzes: only data cds
[00:11] <maco> Ramzes: audio cds just plain play when you open a music player
[00:12] <StealFalcon> hello?
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> Jello!
[00:12] <yawar> StealFalcon: what's the song's file format and what built-in players do you have?
[00:12] <soreau> StealFalcon: Are you sure the file you downloaded is a valid audio file?
[00:13] <StealFalcon> mp3 only the default ubuntu 9,10 players
[00:13] <ZykoticK9> Sia-, i did a "quick" search on launchpad for a firefox/aspell bug(s) but I couldn't find anything.  Good luck.
[00:13] <StealFalcon> 9.10
[00:13] <soreau> StealFalcon: Which format is the song in and which player are you trying to use?
[00:13] <Sia-> ZykoticK9, i found this too, if is bugy then ok thnx alot
[00:13] <Ramzes> maco: Thanks for the info. Btw any idea how to rip audio music out from a cd to a hd?
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> Ramzes:  dozens of tools to do that.
[00:14] <maco> Ramzes: rhythmbox (the default music player) can do that
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> most of the media players have the feature
[00:14] <ZykoticK9> StealFalcon, have you installed "ubuntu-restriected-extras"
[00:14] <marija> the documentation is outdated for installing fglrx on 10.04. its 9.10 as latest version mentioned ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ). are fglrx drivers still in the repos?
[00:14] <maco> marija: yes
[00:14] <StealFalcon> i dont think so y?
[00:14] <yawar> StealFalcon: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Playing Restricted Formats
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> marija:  yes they are.. but what cards are supported by the drivers - changes
[00:15] <ZykoticK9> marija, use System / Admin / Hardware Drivers (if you can, not sure about ATI stuff though)
[00:15] <StealFalcon> so whats with it
[00:15] <yawar> StealFalcon: sorry, make that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Playing%20Restricted%20Formats
[00:15] <anml> currently I have the "error: no such device" issue, and am loaded into ubuntu on a live CD. now what do I do D:
[00:15] <cousteau`live> why does Empathy not support IRC by default?
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, BUG - you need to add another type of account PRIOR to trying to setup IRC!
[00:16] <cousteau`live> but support Facebook Chat?
[00:16] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: ok, let me try
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, BUT - Empathy is terrible for IRC, i strongly recommend a real client
[00:16] <StealFalcon> basicly installing pay only formats right?
[00:16] <StealFalcon> pigen
[00:16] <StealFalcon> pidgin
[00:17] <ZykoticK9> StealFalcon, it's not "pay" - non-free as in freedom, not beer ;)
[00:17] <mistergibson> Please Help.  I have an ATI X1650 XT - need a yes-this-will-work how to guide on getting glx running on it.  fglrx refuses to modprobe
[00:17] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: if empathy is similar to pidgin, it will be terrible to any chat protocol
[00:17] <StealFalcon> ok im lost so the codects are closed source?
[00:17] <pepper_haze> did they ever update the ubuntu music store?
[00:18] <yawar> StealFalcon: once you install the package mentioned, you'll be able to play MP3
[00:18] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, i've never tried using IRC in either of them.  i use them for IM only.
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> StealFalcon:  restart the players after installing the packages.
[00:18] <StealFalcon> so its just the codects?
[00:18] <cousteau`live> argh, I can't create an MSN account without telling my computer to store the password on the keyring
[00:18] <anml> anyone? D:
[00:18] <StealFalcon> they arent open source
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> StealFalcon:  codecs can have 'legal' limitations.
[00:18] <StealFalcon> as in?
[00:19] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: isn't IRC a type of instant messaging?
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> StealFalcon:  as in what? as in theres legal restrictions on them...
[00:19] <pepper_haze> cousteau`live, if you want to use msn messenger with linux, don't use empanthy, aMSN is alot better
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, not in my opinion - 2 different things
[00:19] <StealFalcon> yes
[00:19] <incar> im drivig
[00:19] <imanc> incar - stop using computer and drive god damn you
[00:20] <StealFalcon> what are the legal implemetations?
[00:20] <yawar> StealFalcon: basically the implementations of the codecs are open source, but the codecs themselves are patented--so legally you shouldn't use the implementations in countries where the patents are enforced
[00:20] <ZykoticK9> !ot | StealFalcon
[00:20] <incar>  hah pretty goo
[00:20] <incar> good
[00:20] <cousteau`live> pepper_haze: agree, but I'm on a LiveCD and I want to reserve my RAM for other purposes
[00:20] <StealFalcon> ty
[00:20] <ZykoticK9> StealFalcon, i sent that cause this isn't the channel to "discuss" things - it's support only, or is suppose to be.
[00:20] <cousteau`live> *although I wasn't thinking of connecting to MSN, just creating the acount(
[00:21] <anml> I am receiving the "error: no such device" message when I try to boot into Win/Ubuntu.
[00:21] <diana_> ?
[00:22] <ZykoticK9> anml, likely a grub error?  are you using grub1 or grub2 (if you're not sure tell what version of ubuntu you are using, AND if it was upgraded or not)
[00:22]  * cousteau`live dislikes gaim, pidgin and empathy and would like to have a good multi-protocol client
[00:22] <anml> latest ubuntu, grub2 I assume
[00:22] <mikubuntu> guys, i'm at a friends trying to install 10.04, and it failed on the first partitioning step (says it failed to partition the ext4 file) what could be the problem, it will not go forward from here.  this is a usb stick i'm using, but i do have an alt install in the car.
[00:22] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 | anml
[00:22] <cousteau`live> next fresh install will be from the minimal cd
[00:22] <ZykoticK9> anml, do the change root stuff from CD and let GRUB2 try to automatically resetup
[00:23] <anml> how D:
[00:23] <yawar> cousteau`live: kopete?
[00:23] <RedLance_> Where is my kernel image located?  Or, can I get a directory listing from the boot: prompt?
[00:23] <cousteau`live> yawar: gnome
[00:23] <anml> haven't used linux in a few years, I don't remember anything :P
[00:23] <cousteau`live> well, will give kopete a try
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> RedLance_:  grub2 has some command line options - yes.. check the grub2 docs .  i cant recall how to get a directory listing.
[00:24] <LUCHO2385> HELLO!!!!
[00:24] <RedLance_> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[00:24] <cousteau`live> if kopete is good, I'll suggest to make a clone of it for gnome
[00:24] <deanimean> go pete?
[00:24] <kermit> 10.4, chromium and java apps, how?
[00:24] <ZykoticK9> anml, you need to read the link ubottu gave you.  best of luck man, ask if you have any questions after reading it.
[00:24] <LUCHO2385> KOPETE IS NOT BETTER THAN PIDGIN
[00:24] <latit> uh oh
[00:24] <jpds> !caps > LUCHO2385
[00:24] <deanimean> kermit, openjre or sun?
[00:24] <jpds> !best > LUCHO2385
[00:25] <aeon-ltd> LUCHO2385: please don;t start flame wars
[00:25] <kermit> deanimean: anything that works would be fine
[00:25] <pepper_haze> cousteau`live, use aMSN, thats the best msg, and it really doesn't use that much ram
[00:25] <deanimean> kermit, they both do.
[00:25] <disse> help me, I'm at the ubuntu live cd and mounting a crypted device is not working
[00:25] <disse> http://codepad.org/jpcSlCQV
[00:25] <kermit> deanimean: how?
[00:25] <deanimean> kermit, chromium from where
[00:25] <ZykoticK9> kermit, have you tried both java versions?  i though chromium used java quite easily at this point.
[00:25] <disse> hmm? your @ a flame war....
[00:25] <kermit> deanimean: from the usual way of installing anything
[00:25] <SimonSayez> Anyone have any problems with Google Earth on Ubuntu Linux ?
[00:25] <Ramzes> Once again Guys for your help. I am still learning linux and you saved me a lot of time and nerves!!!
[00:25] <cousteau`live> pepper_haze: it's the one I normally use for MSN, but I'm on a live CD now
[00:25] <hiexpo> pidgin   ^
[00:25] <deanimean> kermit, do you have any java installed now?
[00:25] <ZykoticK9> !anyone > SimonSayez
[00:25] <cousteau`live> although I'm using MSN less each day
[00:26] <pepper_haze> cousteau`live, just install the live cd, and then install aMSN
[00:26] <Wiesshund> anyone tried the 10.7 catalyst driver yet?
[00:26] <cousteau`live> pepper_haze: actually, you don't need to install a cd to install programs on it, you can install them on RAM
[00:26] <SimonSayez> I get my java from Oracle and install from the shell script
[00:26] <deanimean> kermit, well for the openjdk install openjkd-jre and icedtea6-plugin  for suns, enable the partner repo and install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre
[00:26] <Ramzes> Thanks and goodnight
[00:26] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, i agree with pepper_haze's remarks about aMSN (although i don't even use it anymore)
[00:26] <cousteau`live> I'm jsut testing Lucid before I upgrade
[00:27] <LUCHO2385> sorry for uppercase... is my first time here. I never used this before
[00:27] <cousteau`live> don't want something critical such as music or youtube videos not working and not being able to downgrade
[00:27] <yawar> what's the general experience with the nouveau driver for nvidia cards? is it fast? stable?
[00:27] <kermit> deanimean, ZykoticK9: i have both sun and open  installed
[00:27] <ZykoticK9> kermit, +1 on deanimean's last suggsetion
[00:27] <ZykoticK9> kermit, try open first if that fails try sun
[00:28] <SimonSayez> its not sun anymore its Oracle Java
[00:28] <maco> yawar: most systems it cant do 3D, but the nvidia user i know prefers it over the closed driver
[00:28] <pepper_haze> I use aMSN, the linux version of skype, and gyanchi for YM, I think those are the best messagers for linux
[00:28] <cousteau`live> yawar: have an nvidia card, the live cd didn-t display any 3D effects and requested me to install the nvidia drivers when I tried to enable them
[00:28] <maco> SimonSayez: and oracle's attempts at changing that string *totally* break eclipse
[00:28] <SimonSayez> maco lol
[00:28] <cousteau`live> so I guess (and it's just a guess) that it's not very good at 3D
[00:29] <cousteau`live> either that or I was using vesa and I'm now installing nouveau
[00:29] <maco> cousteau`live: 3D is in theory not supported at all
[00:29] <packrat> so, i have ubuntu 10.04 on my netbook.  it would seem that the wireless has been disabled.  I believe it is related to the switch used to toggle the wireless card but its not responding.  thoughts?
[00:29] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, you can't properly install nvidia from LiveCD i don't think!  (requires reboot)
[00:29] <pepper_haze> cousteau`live, you have to set the graphics effects amount first, then you have to install the driver
[00:29] <maco> cousteau`live: in practice, a few cards (the ones that match what the developers of nouveau have) can do it
[00:29] <deanimean> kermit,  sudo update-alternatives --config java (java{tab complete}) and select which you need.
[00:29] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: I bet I can just restart X
[00:29] <hiexpo> as far as all around messangers go the one i have found to meat my expectations and needs all a round being able to use msn , yahoo myspace, facebook and many others pidgin wins    > thumbs up
[00:29] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, incorrect it's a kernel module
[00:29] <cousteau`live> what's the live CD user password, just in case I lose my bet?
[00:30] <deanimean> kermit, apart from that, there is nothing else to it.
[00:30] <packrat> should i just elevate all actions on the signed in account?  and if so, how do i do that?
[00:30] <maco> cousteau`live: ubuntu, i think
[00:30] <yawar> cousteau`live: weird that it asked you to install nvidia's driver
[00:30] <hiexpo> cousteau`live,  there is none
[00:30] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: I've installed nvidia drivers and then just run sudo service gdm restart
[00:30] <cousteau`live> and they worked
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> hiexpo, "sometime" there is!  i've seen it several time.
[00:30] <maco> packrat: sudo modprobe -r  [wireless driver]  && sudo modprobe [wireless driver]     <-- maybe that if you know your module's name
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, i don't believe you, best of luck man.
[00:31] <mikubuntu> guys, i'm at a friends trying to install 10.04, and it failed on the first partitioning step (says it failed to partition the ext4 file) what could be the problem, it will not go forward from here.  this is a usb stick i'm using, but i do have an alt install in the car.
[00:32] <packrat> maco, i did a rfkill list, and it says wireless LAN is hard blocked
[00:32] <pepper_haze> Hey maco, how are you?
[00:32] <earthling_> hi, I'm trying to install my printer, where do I find the PPD file for HP deskjet printers? can't find it on HP website or on hp-setup
[00:32] <hiexpo> i am sos so sorry to inform you of this greatly and devistating bad news     but ubuntu has no password
[00:32] <maco> packrat: ok.... i dont know. i just know that when my rfkill switch didnt work my way of undoing it was to unload/reload the module
[00:32] <antonio_> is there any easy way to share files between two ubuntu laptops?
[00:33] <packrat> hm
[00:33] <maco> hiexpo: mmm i thought sudo was configured on the live cd to not need one, but that if you somehow got to a gdm screen you needed one?
[00:33] <packrat> i dont know my modules name though
[00:33] <aeon-ltd> antonio_: samba?
[00:33] <deanimean> ssh
[00:33] <maco> pepper_haze: okie doo. you?
[00:33] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting might help, good luck.
[00:33] <antonio_> aeon-ltd: so do I need samba installed on both machines?
[00:33] <maco> packrat: what kind of wireless card is it?
[00:33] <BraveSaintStuart> so, I'm having what I can presumably be described as a boot loader problem
[00:33] <packrat> not sure.  its an acer aspire one
[00:34] <packrat> jas
[00:34] <pepper_haze> maco, I am a little depressed over the shooting that happened in the news yesterday, other then that, I am fine
[00:34] <maco> packrat: pastebin the output of "lspci" please
[00:34] <aeon-ltd> antonio_: no only one can host the samba server and if set up the other can access it with/without password
[00:34] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, share between - SSH --- Places / Connect to Server / SSH - enter details.
[00:34] <hiexpo> there is only a couple of distros that i know of that had a password set to login live
[00:34] <mikubuntu> says :: The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of Serial ATA RAID isw_bebjjhjaff_ARRAY (mirror) failed.
[00:34] <packrat> maco, uhm, im not on this chnnel with the netbook in question
[00:34] <aeon-ltd> antonio_: although since your already using nautilus i'd look up dropbox :)
[00:34] <BraveSaintStuart> I'm not exactly sure what is going on with my boot loader, but for now, all I know is that the only way I can boot an OS is by using my ubuntu installer file on my flash drive
[00:35] <antonio_> zykotick9: how easy is that to steup?
[00:35] <earthling_> thx Zykotick9
[00:35] <maco> packrat: oh...ok then run lspci and look for something about network
[00:35] <packrat> got it
[00:35] <packrat> atheros AR5001
[00:35] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, easy install openssh server and you're done.
[00:35] <maco> hiexpo: when you boot you dont need one, it does autologin, but i think you can log out and then you do need one
[00:35] <maco> packrat: lsmod | grep ath
[00:35] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, did you find it already?
[00:35] <BraveSaintStuart> i'm not sure if windows keeps uninstalling it or what's happening
[00:35] <maco> packrat: might see ath5k or ath9k  or something like that?
[00:35] <earthling_> I'm looking
[00:36] <BraveSaintStuart> but simply reinstalling grub doesn't seem to work either
[00:36] <packrat> yup, ath5k
[00:36] <maco> packrat: thatd be your module's name
[00:36] <hiexpo> never seen that
[00:36] <antonio_> zykotick9: I have like 3 1/2 gigs to transfer...any idea how long it may take..other lappy gets weird after a few minutes
[00:36] <BraveSaintStuart> I hate to be annoying, but anybody got an answer for me on that?
[00:37] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, technically "a long time" ;)
[00:37] <packrat> cool, that worked.  thanks maco
[00:37] <maco> packrat: yay!
[00:37] <packrat> is there a way to disable the hard-disabling switch?
[00:37] <cousteau`live> &quit restarting session, let's see what happens
[00:37] <cousteau`live> oops
[00:38] <BraveSaintStuart> hi anyone
[00:38] <antonio_> zykotick9: any idea for anything that would be faster?
[00:38] <racerd> how do i configure grub to find a windows installation on a drive i threw into my linux box?
[00:38] <hiexpo> i am being lazy but what was the problem witn a ath5k card?
[00:39] <SimonSayez> How are you downloading flv files from youtube to Ubuntu Linux ?
[00:40] <hiexpo> BraveSaintStuart,  be patient if anyone can help they will ok
[00:40] <packrat> hiexpo, good question.  ubuntu 10.04 seems unresponsive to hard-enable switches
[00:40] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, 3+GB is going to take a long time across network, no matter what you use to share the files.
[00:40] <packrat> only resolution was to reload the module
[00:40] <antonio_> hmm
[00:41] <BraveSaintStuart> hiexpo: yessir
[00:41] <SimonSayez> I need a Linux method to grab flv files from youtube
[00:41] <ZykoticK9> racerd, assuming Grub2 - just let grub autodetect from the chrooted LiveCD and it "should" pick up the new Windows option.  See !grub2 for details.
[00:41] <JohnRobert> is f-spot still the most popular/best photo organising tool on ubuntu?
[00:41] <hiexpo> !youtube-dl > SimonSayez
[00:42] <racerd> chrooted livecd?
[00:42] <linxeh> JohnRobert: that or picasa (if you dont mind commercial software)
[00:42] <racerd> what is that?
[00:42] <SimonSayez> hiexpo, That doesnt work for me
[00:42] <packrat> SimonSayez, i think there is a javascript
[00:42] <JohnRobert> ta
[00:42] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, as they are playing they are stored in /tmp as a Flashj3kjkj file - just get a download plugin for your web browser
[00:42] <SimonSayez> packrat, trying to Google more info on it
[00:42] <packrat> javascript:if(document.location.href.match(/http:\/\/[a-zA-Z\.]*youtube\.com\/watch/)){document.location.href='http://www.youtube.com/get_video?fmt='+(isHDAvailable?'22':'18')+'&video_id='+swfArgs['video_id']+'&t='+swfArgs['t']}
[00:43] <packrat> i cant remember what that outputs though
[00:43] <thune3> SimonSayez: i always get the latest youtube-dl from http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/downloads , since ubuntu repo doesn't keep up
[00:43] <tesuji> anyone know about setting up dialup?  i have an ancient laptop which wvdial does not recognize the modem
[00:43] <racerd> !grub2
[00:43] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, if it's ONLY Youtube you want to download from check out the CLI application youtube-dl (NOTE the version in repo may be broken)
[00:43] <SimonSayez> thune3, let me try that thanks
[00:43] <hiexpo> SimonSayez,  you need the new one use Google i can not discus that here OK it is illegal
[00:44] <hiexpo> SimonSayez,  maybe try in google youtube-dl not working   :)
[00:45] <kermit> deanimean: neither alternative worked
[00:45] <kermit> deanimean: i removed the open* things which would run but just spin the cpu, but i cant figure out how to install the sun-java6-plugin
[00:46] <cousteau`live> so you were right, I can't use the nvidia drivers, at least now!
[00:46] <ZykoticK9> kermit, you need to add the parner repo
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> !partner
[00:47] <CompuBocik>  http://compu.boo.pl/
[00:47] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, thanks.  i hadn't seen the !partner factoid recently, that's pretty cool
[00:47] <kermit> ZykoticK9: thanks!
[00:47] <CompuBocik>  http://compu.boo.pl/
[00:48] <bastidrazor> CompuBocik: what is that link for?
[00:49] <kermit> ZykoticK9, deanimean: yey, its working now!
[00:50] <ZykoticK9> kermit, nice
[00:51] <outer_space> what do I do with this message when I login with "You have new mail in /var/mail/root" how to read this?
[00:51] <kuna> anyone know how to fix pointer styles being ignored in GNOME in 10.04?
[00:52] <antonio_> zykotick9: how in the heck do I use openssh? this is confusing as hell
[00:52] <bastidrazor> outer_space: /var/mail/  should be thelocation of this
[00:53] <Oer> new kernel update 2.6.32-24, there goes my uptime 01:51:43 up 9 days, 20:28,  2 users,  load average: 1.50, 0.99, 0.87
[00:53] <tesuji> anyone know about setting up dialup?  i have an ancient laptop which wvdial does not recognize the modem
[00:53] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, once the server is installed on one machine try "ssh localhost" then log in and use exit to close the ssh session - just to test it's working
[00:53] <bastidrazor> outer_space: go to that directory and read it with a text editor. there is normally a crazy named file there.
[00:54] <BraveSaintStuart> so... again, just because my mention of anything is long gone, here's the whole situation... I have a netbook with win7 on it.  I installed Ubuntu.  I haven't done anything additional that I know of that would affect the way the OSs boot, but now Grub will not come up and neither will any OS, unless of course I run Ubuntu from the installer
[00:54] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, sorry "exit" is a command to close the ssh session (if that wasn't clear)
[00:54] <YankDownUnder> kuna, Have you tried "sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme" ?
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> kuna, turn off compiz and i bet your cursor shows up!
[00:55] <earthling_> Zykotick9, checked that link, still can't find it, I suppose I could try a PPD file for a different printer
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, so long as it's CLOSE in model!
[00:55] <kuna> ZykoticK9: aye, it does
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, have you just tried googling your printer model and PPD?  sorry for the !google violation.
[00:56] <earthling_> yes
[00:56] <BraveSaintStuart> in addition, I know that if I can get to the boot loader, everything boots fine
[00:56] <antonio_> sorry zykotick9: this is confusing as hell...methinks samba or another gui might be a ton easier for me
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> kuna, common issue - not sure if there are various bugs about it?
[00:56] <SimonSayez> okay that new youtube-dl works GREAT on Ubuntu
[00:56] <kuna> YankDownUnder: I would like the selection to follow the GNOME appearance pref's, not necessarily change the default every time I want to change the cursor.
[00:56] <BraveSaintStuart> so I don't know if it's just a problem with Grub being overridden by Windows or if it's something else
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, no forget about the cosole stuff now!  you can use the Gnome GUI for connect to Server!
[00:57] <SimonSayez> I was able to capture flv file
[00:57] <antonio_> ah
[00:57] <deanimean> SimonSayez,  youtube-dl -b -o "%(title)s.%(ext)s" youtube-url
[00:57] <antonio_> zykotick9: mind if I pm you?
[00:57] <SimonSayez> deanimean, thanks
[00:58] <tesuji> anyone know about settig up dialup?
[00:58] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, do you know what the "-b" has been updated too?  thas results in error for me using newer version!
[00:58] <deanimean> SimonSayez, never accept flv !
[00:58] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, keep it here please.
[00:58] <antonio_> ok  np, brb
[00:58] <pepito> How can I use gdebi in order to install a program with all its dependencies locally (provided that I already have such program with all its dependencies in a folder)??
[00:59] <deanimean> they changed it again?
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  well with dpkg you could do 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' in that dir.
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  that might work with gedebi. or copy all the debs  to /var/cache/apt/????? (whever the devbs are archived at)
[00:59] <earthling_> Zykotick9, my printer is HP Deskjet D4160 , its 4 years old, so it should work with ubuntu right?
[01:00] <bastidrazor>  Dr_Willis /var/cache/apt/archives/  .. you were close
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> earthling_:  check the cups.org site to see where its at.
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  yea. They need tab completion for paths on IRC. :)
[01:00] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, i have no idea
[01:00] <antonio_> so zkycotick9: I went to term...did open ssh...asked for a password...
[01:00] <antonio_> seems like it worked thus far
[01:00] <bastidrazor> Dr_Willis: irssi has it =}
[01:00] <earthling_> ok
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, my youtube-dl version and help file at http://paste.ubuntu.com/473321/
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  so if you do  ls /var/ <tab> in irssi it fills in the path? never sene that befor
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  Oh golly. it does work in irssi also. :)
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  in weechat :)
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, calm down LOL :)
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Tab = the Wonder Key of the Ages. :)
[01:01] <bastidrazor> heh
[01:02] <cousteau`live> OMG it's true!
[01:02] <cousteau`live> now I do want a GUI for IRSSI
[01:02] <pepito> Dr_Willis, I am too much of a purist to consider the /var/cache/apt/?? approach. That leaves us the gdebi and dpkg route. With dpkg -i it would probably work, the only problem is that I have a giant folder with many programs and I would like dpkg to JUST install a given program and its dependencies (kinda like apt-get would do)... of course, I could classify programs and its dependencies by folders and that would do it,but still...
[01:02] <pepito> gdebi sounds good in principle
[01:02] <pepito> because it is intended to work locally
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> cousteau`live: smuxi is almost that.. I perfer weechat however.
[01:02] <cousteau`live> cause I'm too used to point-and-click... although it's good even from terminal
[01:02] <pepito> the problem is that it only takes the main *.deb program locally
[01:02] <pepito> in order to get the deps it tries to go online
[01:03] <pepito> which is against what I would like to do
[01:03] <deanimean> ZykoticK9, looks like they messed with it again....ugh
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  may as well copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/  and be done with it.. they will get copied there anyway i belive once you install them
[01:03] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, i miss -b :(..
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  you would need ALL that it needs in the cache.  one way or another. :)
[01:04] <antonio_> zykotick9: whenever you have some free time, can you help me to fire up the gui and figure out how to do this
[01:04] <shiv> Ia m trying to use aptoncd but its not listing all the programs that are installed. I can add folders in which the other programs are but what is the C:\Program Files equivalent in linux?
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  problem with keeping an app and asll its 'debs' in a folder. is that you   are wasting a lot of space with redundant debs, You could use links i guess.. but what are you gaining by this sorting stuff out.
[01:04] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, now is always good, do you know the IP of the other machine (any firewall/routing issues we need to know about)?
[01:04]  * cousteau`live has written "smuxi" and "weechat" on his whiteboard to check them tomorrow
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> !info smuxi
[01:04] <kelvie_> shiv: the concept of the application all occupying a single directory doesn't exist in the unix world
[01:04] <OOnia>  ***  I am back.  Gone for 1hr 32mins 20secs  ***
[01:05] <antonio_> whats the term command for discovering the ip?
[01:05] <pepito> Dr_Willis, that's why I didn't do it: I would end up having the same deps repeated over and over in different folders
[01:05] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, from the other machine try Places / Connect to Server / then select SSH for type and enter the IP address of server and your username and stuff...
[01:05] <Queuetip> antonio_ ifconfig
[01:05] <pepito> an approach that worked kinda neatly was that of editing sources.list
[01:05] <pepito> and adding a "deb file:/" line
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  for a small network. You m ay want to set up an apt-cacher machine to keep everything cached for the whole lan
[01:05] <shiv> kelvie_, APTonCD gives an option to add folders..thats aok
[01:05] <cousteau`live> antonio_: I use   wget www.whatismyip.org -qO-
[01:06] <shiv> kelvie_, APTonCD gives an option to add folders..thats ok I will use remastersys
[01:06] <pepito> but still it tries to go online and it doesnt' want to comply with it
[01:06] <deanimean> ZykoticK9,  use the newer version
[01:06] <rockman> hello  I'm new here
[01:06] <deanimean> ZykoticK9, http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/raw/2010.08.04/youtube-dl
[01:06] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, what version are you using?
[01:06] <pepito> Dr_Willis, I am looking for a USB-drive and/or CD/DVD approach, not a network approach
[01:06] <rockman> got some problem here
[01:06] <cousteau`live> echo "Your IP is: $(wget www.whatismyip.org -qO-)"
[01:06] <pepito> it works kinda neatly if you create a CD with the files and the deps
[01:07] <nixoeen> NetworkManager doesn't show up DSL Connections (PPPoE) when I'm connecting to a Wireless Accesspoint. However, it's showing them with wired Ethernet connection. Anyone else had this problem ?
[01:07] <deanimean> ZykoticK9, was the repo version, but use the newer script.  just +x it and replace
[01:07] <deanimean> ZykoticK9, -b works.
[01:07] <pepito> but it works worse if you try to force apt-get to install from a local source such as a usb-drive or a folder in your hdd
[01:07] <zex> uhat is the command to list attached thumb drives?
[01:07] <pepito> somehow it insists in going online
[01:07] <pepito> even when you put the "deb file:/" in the first line
[01:07] <pepito> plus, creating the Packages.gz file is quite a hassle
[01:08] <ENeGMA> would anyone be willing to help me get a creative zen working?  I've tried everything I can find on the internet
[01:08] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, thanks!
[01:08] <cousteau`live> ok, I tested sound and it works, jack works, graphics didn't work but I could always install them the hard way (downloading the nvidia driver), anyway I think they may work once installed
[01:08] <dexi> Does anyone know if theres a way for ubuntu to go into the "Locked" screen, but not a screensaver?
[01:08] <cousteau`live> what else can I test?
[01:08] <cousteau`live> youtube videos, wait
[01:08] <dblitztech> hello everyone.. I have a problem with pulseaudio and skype.. Trying to get skype to see my usb headset instead of pulse audio ?
[01:08] <rockman> after i wipe clean my hard drive and install ubuntu and it said to remove the cd before it can restart.
[01:09] <pradeep> dexi, it is on your top rigth corner of your screen
[01:09] <antonio_> zkotick9: I went to whatismyip.com for both of my machines...
[01:09] <antonio_> they both have the same ip address
[01:09] <rockman> and it only show underline blinking on upper left corner forever
[01:09] <dexi> pradeep, that activates screensaver as well...
[01:09] <rockman> boot up problem?
[01:09] <pradeep> dexi, disable your screen saver then
[01:10] <dblitztech> any suggestions ?
[01:10] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, that's because that's your public IP not your private IP (i saw people giving you the bad advice, but someone right off the bat told you the command was "ifconfig")
[01:10] <ZykoticK9> !tab > antonio_
[01:10] <dexi> pradeep, I did...
[01:11] <antonio_> zykotick9: thanks forgot about that ;)P
[01:11] <antonio_> ;)
[01:11] <dblitztech> hello everyone.. I have a problem with pulseaudio and skype.. Trying to get skype to see my usb headset instead of pulse audio, anyway to reconfigure it to get it to use my headset ?
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, to get my nic you probably just have to type Z y (TAB), a lot easier then typing it out (notice the capital Z)
[01:12] <dblitztech> I found some forums which are old suggesting to remove pulse and install esound, but there can be issues with it as well.
[01:12] <antonio_> ZykoticK9: ok now I have both of my ips...you said to go to places, connect to server, right?
[01:12] <dblitztech> Don't know if it still holds true because I am using 10.04
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, yup and select SSH
[01:13] <exe> p
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, you might want to add a bookmark AFTER you know it's working!
[01:14] <rockman> anyone available to assist me?
[01:14] <Queuetip> rockman: don't ask to ask, just ask
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, leave port blank (or 22), for folder name try leaving it blank (if that fails put / or you could try ~ or the long version of same /home/YOURUSERNAME),
[01:14] <deanimean> ssh-copy-id to save passwords..
[01:14] <antonio_> ah this is not that hard at all :D
[01:15] <radi> can anyone tell me where i can find this package : freetype2 ?
[01:15] <CyberSoldat> hi all
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> !find freetype
[01:15] <dblitztech> orted until April 2011 (Desktop) or April 2013 (Server)
[01:15] <dblitztech> Jaunty Jackalope
[01:15] <dblitztech> 9.04
[01:15] <dblitztech> April 23, 2009
[01:15] <FloodBot2> dblitztech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:15] <dblitztech> Supported until October sorry
[01:15] <dblitztech> sorry
[01:15] <deanimean> !eol jaunty
[01:15] <radi> Dr_Willis: which one of these ?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> radi:  no idea
[01:16] <deanimean> well its october.
[01:16] <radi> i need it to compile one of E17's libraries Evas
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> radi:  given that its listing freetype6 - what are you using that wants freetype2 ?
[01:16] <otomo> hullo
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> radi:  theres the build-deps option to apt ghat can insrtall ALL needed dev dependencies for an applicaiton thats in the repos
[01:16] <radi> Dr_Who: Evas, thats for enlightment
[01:17] <antonio_> argh..29 hours!
[01:17] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, lol - but it's working :)
[01:17] <ENeGMA> what does it mean when trying to mount an mp3 player when you get this error message: Unexpected error: Error opening file: Transport endpoint is not connected"?
[01:17] <antonio_> hah true
[01:17] <antonio_> I need to find a better way to xfer all of this...
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, can't you just burn it to a dvd?
[01:18] <ndxtg> Hi I found this command: s/smthing/smthing2/g does anyone know what the /g thing is?
[01:18] <gizol> hello
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, or USB stick/drive/key
[01:18] <bastidrazor> ndxtg: that means to do it globally. it will do it above where you're at in the file too. not just below
[01:18] <deanimean> 64gig usb stick for my win. :)
[01:18] <ndxtg> bastidrazor: is there any "man" page for this ?
[01:19] <katuki> hi there, i have a problem with wubi, anybody could help me?
[01:19] <deanimean> antonio_, 29 hours?  how much are you transferring?
[01:19] <bastidrazor> ndxtg: you're doing regular expressions. no man page that i know of.
[01:19] <antonio_> zykotick9: hahahahahahaha burn it do a dvd...why did I not think of that!!
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  regular expressions 101 - /g i think is for global
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  susbute /pattern/thing/ globally
[01:20] <Amer30> hi can someone help me to fix my problem
[01:20] <Amer30> i can't start gnome
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  regular expressions is the kind of thing that you read about and are totally baffled.. then start to use.. and then become addicted/amazed :)
[01:20] <Amer30> if i try to pastebinit i can'tpaste anything
[01:20] <wildeja> Hi, How do i synchronise calendar,contacts,etc in evolution mail for ubuntu 10.04? I would like to sync with laptop. Thank you
[01:21] <ndxtg> ok thank you Dr_Willis and bastidrazor , Im actually learning reg express
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> Dosent UbuntuOne let you 'sync' those things? i just use it to sync my Tomboy Notes. But i thought it could do more.
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> wildeja, UbuntuOne would be perfect - BUT i don't think some of those sync are working right now :(
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i got a book on the topic.  its pretty niffty tool.
[01:21] <johnf_> hi
[01:22] <tesuji> anyone know about settig up dialup?
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> !dialup
[01:22] <deanimean> set .evolution to sync?
[01:22] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: did you mean eBook? if yes please let me know the link :D
[01:22] <cousteau`live> youtube working, audio (and jack) working, nvidia drivers don't seem to but I guess they'll work... what else can I test?
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  you aer refering to actual dialup with a serial modem and a normal phone line? not via some cellphone, or other fancy stuff?
[01:22] <wildeja> ZykoticK9, Thank you for the suggestion. I would prefer to do the dync over a LAN though offline.
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i got a real book :) it was on the bargin bin. The ebook versions are out there i recall.
[01:22] <cousteau`live> my midi controller
[01:22] <ZykoticK9> wildeja, ahhh.  rsync then?
[01:23]  * chromer raises his hand as if to ask a question
[01:23] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i'm talking about old fashioned dialup with an old fashioned modem, not a wifi modem
[01:23] <pepper_haze> well I just had a enlightening conversation with maco in private
[01:23] <deanimean> chromer, ask away.
[01:23] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, yes, serial modem
[01:23] <otomo> quit
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  theres tools for it.. but ive not used them in years. :) check that dialup factoid
[01:23] <johnf_> i keep having this problem while booting 10.04 netbook edition on my HP mini 110 : 1/5 of the time it will boot up fine. the other 4/5 it will only display "_" blinking in the top left corner of a black screen. i tried a fix to edit the GRUB file and it seemed to work but the problem is back
[01:23] <johnf_> any help would be appreciated
[01:23] <wildeja> ZykoticK9, That will work over network?, if so i will go do my research :)
[01:24] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, yes i looked and apparently i have to manuall configure and it is nontrivial
[01:24] <yaaang> help, update-notifier never pops up even when i have updates. using 10.04, installed from scratch 2 months ago. i think update-notifier never worked.
[01:24] <chromer> I am looking for away to make 10.04 LTS to properly disable the touchpad entirely when I have a mouse connected. I had it working in the 2 prior versions, but what I am trying to do as I did before is not working this time.
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  very possible. Ive not used it in ages. but whats to configure? enter your phone # and other info.. and dial in...
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  last i used dialup in linux it wasent too hard. :) but i used wvdial i recall
[01:25] <ZykoticK9> wildbat, ya rsync can certainly be used across networks, but perhaps only through ssh pipes?  I don't use rsync very much but you should Definitely look into it!
[01:25] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, networkmanager does not see my serial modem :( so i have to use setserial and give it information i don't know :(
[01:25] <deanimean> chromer, I think you might want gpointing-device-settings
[01:25] <MaRk-I> ndxtg: just search for cheat sheets ;^)  http://www.scottklarr.com/topic/103/regular-expressions-cheat-sheets/
[01:25] <chromer> I have tried touchfreeze and the command "syndaemon -d -t -i 1"
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  are you sure the modem even has linux support.
[01:25] <ZykoticK9> wildeja, see above.  sorry wildbat (bad with tab today, and other days too ;)
[01:25] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, and like everybody else i haven't used a modem in 20 years
[01:26] <chromer> deanimean: where do I find that or do I need to get that from synaptic?
[01:26] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i don't know
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  since network manager dosent see it.. i would almost bet its not supported.
[01:26] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, but it's a serial device and there are standards...
[01:26] <cousteau`live> I guess every java based thing will be borked due to openjdk vs sun java... if I find bugs (although I avoid the usage of java) I'll install the old sun-java6
[01:26] <deanimean> chromer, I *think* it has the option to disable touchpad.. but wether it has an option to disable when mouse is used I dont know. yes just in the main repo
[01:27] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, once you config with setserial then there are tools to configure and use - but it doesn't see the modem :(
[01:27] <chromer> deanimean: I will try it
[01:27] <ZykoticK9> tesuji, i've NEVER used a modem with linux before, but i know a lot of "Win-modems" don't work.  have you checked that your modem works in linux?
[01:27] <tesuji> ZykoticK9, if you aren't familiar with modems you need to read th docs
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  I dont recall ever needing to use setserial on an internal modem.. or is this an external one on the serial port>?
[01:28] <ZykoticK9> tesuji, ok sorry.
[01:28] <yaaang> help, update-manager never pops up even when i have updates. using 10.04, installed from scratch 2 months ago. i think this never worked. any ideas on where to look to start debugging this?
[01:28] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, it is internal and there is one - i suppose i have to start by figuring out how to figure out what the specs are
[01:28] <deanimean> chromer, its prefs are in system menu, it allows touchpad on/off/touchpad tapping scrolling off.
[01:29] <wildeja> ZykoticK9, Cheers
[01:29] <sparrW|2> I have requested apt-get to install some packages that require a lot of other packages to be uninstalled. I appear to be stuck with "apt-get -f install" removing those packages, and I don't want that. How can I "cancel" the operation that is pending?
[01:29] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i know!  i'll just put windows back on my laptop!  what a solution, eh?
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  i would guss that an internal is 152000 8N1 - but as i said. ive never needed to set those settings for an internal modem. You could fire up minicom and just play with the settings till you can get it to dial out via 'ATDT some-safe-number'
[01:29] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, close synaptic?  or USC?
[01:30] <cousteau`live> sparrW|2: on my system, apt-get -f install also attempts to install or uninstall (can't remember) some packages
[01:30] <deanimean> why ubuntu by default doesnt have a simple touch pad OFF utility I  dont know..it should.
[01:30] <sparrW|2> ZykoticK9: I am using apt-get and aptitude from the command line
[01:30] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, sorry I'm on the trolley now
[01:30] <cousteau`live> I think it's not important
[01:30] <sparrW|2> cousteau`live: I can't install anything else until I fix it
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  i dont care what you do really. :) but I think you may be  hitting a 'modem not supported at all, issue. instead of a needing to confiogure it issue' but good luck. Windows MIGHT tell you waht settings you are looking for.
[01:30] <cousteau`live> oh
[01:31] <knoppies> I plan on upgrading 2 of my systems from 9.04 to 10.04, but I would like to downgrade GDM to 2.10. Are there any issues/concerns that I should be worried about?
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, "apt-get -f install" is quasi-required to fix your currently broken APT state.  that command is suppose to FIX apt.
[01:31] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i'm being facetious - it is not possible to put windows on this laptop - the harddisk croaked and i have installed ubuntu on a thumbdrive
[01:31] <jfcaron> Is there a way to copy the file permissions from one file "onto" another file, i.e. keep the contents of the files unchanged, but make the permissions the same?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> jfcaron:  if nothing else.. you could script such a thing,.
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> jfcaron:  i got a possible answer just now when i googled 'bash clone permissions' :)
[01:32] <cousteau`live> chmod --reference=OTHERFILE FILE
[01:33] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, minicom defaults to tty8 which is an active console - thx for suggest
[01:33] <cousteau`live> man chmod
[01:33] <sparrW|2> cousteau`live: I'm only maybe 3 packages away from getting a very conflicted package installed, and now I'm stuck
[01:33] <jfcaron> Dr_Willis, cousteau`live: Thanks.
[01:33] <cousteau`live> yw
[01:33] <sparrW|2> ZykoticK9: the "fix" it wants to apply is to install 2 packages and uninstall 9 more. Those 9 packages are VERY HARD to install. I would prefer to keep them and not install the other 2.
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> knoppies, that would require 9.04 to 9.10 then update to 10.04.  are you sure you can't fresh install?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> jfcaron:  perhaps (test this out first) --> cp -rp <source> <target> will keep the perms of the source and put them on
[01:34] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, i think those are the packages that are broken!
[01:34] <gimmickless_> Setting up a new install of Ubuntu Server. Trying to use USB wireless to access router with WPA protection. I know the password. I don't know the command to access router with said pw. help?
[01:34] <sparrW|2> ZykoticK9: they are quite broken, I had to use dpkg --ignore-depends heavily to get them installed
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:    set minicom to be the tty of the modem. (dmesg may tell you what that is)
[01:35] <jfcaron> Dr_Willis: Turns out the chmod command has that built-in, as cousteau`live mentioned.  chmod --reference=REFILE.
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  also i notice that /dev/ttyS* is owned by the dialout group. perhaps your users need to also be in that group
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, right!  which in the process breaks your APT system.  your choice you can keep you broken fix or fix your APT but not both.  you also won't be able to update or install anything else you understand?
[01:35] <knoppies> ZykoticK9, I meant a fresh install. I had a bad experience with updating back in 2008. Always done fresh installs since. But should I have concerns about downgrading the GDM to 2.10?
[01:35] <cousteau`live> don't know if it will also change the owner, though
[01:36] <sparrW|2> ZykoticK9: that is... less than ideal. How can I have packages with unmet dependencies installed and keep apt working?
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> knoppies, i would too.  but fresh install is the way to go ;)
[01:36] <aleoram> I have downloaded and extracted the latest version of Geany from the website. How do I start it?
[01:36] <yaaang> help, update-manager never pops up even when i have updates. using 10.04, installed from scratch 2 months ago. i think this never worked. any ideas on where to look to start debugging this?
[01:36] <cousteau`live> aleoram: you'll first need to compile it
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> knoppies, i don't have any specific knowledge of changing GDM, certainly not the new GDM stuff!
[01:37] <cousteau`live> look for an already compiled .deb package, they usually have them
[01:37] <knoppies> Thank You ZykoticK9
[01:37] <aleoram> cousteau`live, How can I compile it?
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  theres ppa repos of geany i thouight to let you use teh package maanger.. if its an binary archive. extract it, cd to the directory and run the binaries ./whatever
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  unless you got the source from the web site....
[01:37] <aleoram> cousteau`live,  Repos don't have the latest version of geany.
[01:37] <chromer> deanimean: that looks like it is gonna work, it would've been nice tho if there was a utility that detected when no mouse was plugged in to allow it to be undisabled and then when a mouse was plugged in to immediately disable it. (it being the touchpad). and I do know about the "smack spacebar 3 times" trick to reenable the touchpad.
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  theres PPA repos that have updated versions
[01:37] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  I got the source from the website.
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  then you got to compile the source. good luck.
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> geany --version
[01:38] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  I checked the ppa repos but not the latest version, again how do I compile it?
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> geany 0.19 (built on Jul 20 2010 with GTK 2.20.1, GLib 2.24.1)
[01:38] <cousteau`live> aleoram: hmm, you're right, neither the repos nor the PPA repository have geany ~
[01:38] <ZykoticK9> aleoram, that's really not directly an Ubuntu issue... we can support the geany in repo, or quasi-PPA version, but compiling from source...
[01:38] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, here is what dmesg says about serial http://pastebin.com/77GmUg9R
[01:39] <cousteau`live> *geany 0.19
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> looks like i got the latest geany from some PPA's
[01:39] <cousteau`live> well, you'll first need to install build-essential
[01:39] <aleoram> cousteau`live,  Ok, I'll look in the terminal for that package.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> I got geany .19 it seems from the 'getdeb' repositories
[01:40] <MaRk-I> !compile | aleoram
[01:40] <cousteau`live> then you'll need a bunch of libraries, such as libgtk2.0-dev
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> MaRk-I, thanks
[01:40] <cousteau`live> or, look for it in getdeb
[01:41] <MaRk-I> ZykoticK9: yw
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  those just look like the serial ports on the pc/moptherboard. perhaps check lspci and see if theres any info on the modem
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> !info geany
[01:42] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, 00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
[01:42] <cousteau`live> yes, geany is available from getdeb repos... but since they changed it, it's quite hard to install a package without installing all their repos
[01:42] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, but that doesn't tell me what port, irq, etc
[01:43] <ENeGMA> I'm having this exact problem: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8646053&postcount=53     Does anyone know of any solution?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  is there even a /dev/ttyS# for the modem. you have any /dev/ttyS*?
[01:43] <frxstrem> is there some proxy software that can be used to log raw network traffic?
[01:44] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, yes, 0 to 3, but wvdial doesn't detect a modem on any of them
[01:44] <deanimean> chromer, yeah its a bit much there is not yet a nice easy tool to ditch the touchpad.. I`m happy with disabling scroll and mouseclicks..
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  this site mentiones that modem -  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=41216   Not ubuntu specific - but it may give some info
[01:45] <ZykoticK9> frxstrem, not sure about "proxy software" but have you looked at wireshark?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> !info slmodem
[01:45] <frxstrem> ZykoticK9: yes, but the problem is that I want to analyze traffic for my iPod touch, and my computer does not receive network traffic from other devices on the network
[01:46] <frxstrem> therefore I though I could just get a proxy to do the same thing, and set my iPod up to use that proxy
[01:46] <bastidrazor> Dr_Willis: there is an sl-modem-daemon
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> frxstrem, oooohhhh, you might want to check out the route modifications like ddwrt and stuff, they probably have logging you're looking for.  good luck.
[01:47] <aleoram> Where can i get gtk+-2.0?
[01:47] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, now  i see what's going on - the dialer program tries those devices and gets no response
[01:47] <jimi_> what does plugin container deleted mean on alsa sound preferences?
[01:47] <ottermaton> Does anyone have any experience with and hopefully a solution to a laptop slow to resume from suspend?
[01:47] <mikeplus64> aleoram: Doesn't it come with Ubuntu anyway?
[01:48] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  Terminal says I do not have it.
[01:48] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[01:48] <mikeplus64> Search for 'gtk' and see what you have.
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  im seeing a few hits  in the forums also.   heres teh 2 i am looking at.
[01:48] <radi> is there a way to check how long is gonna take to compile something ?
[01:48] <mikeplus64> It could be "gtk2" or a number of other things.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> and http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1367142 http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/
[01:49] <jimi_> my audio stopped working after an update of a few packages... and not alsa says plugin container deleted
[01:49] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  gtk2: command not found
[01:49] <Spawn> How do you get the fish to go away?
[01:49] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  I have tried many names but still nothing.
[01:49] <radi> fish ?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> Spawn:  killall gnome-panel
[01:50] <Spawn> the feed the fish fish
[01:50] <radi> lol
[01:50] <mikeplus64> aleoram: apt-get search gtk ? I'm not sure of the exact command. ( <--- runs Arch Linux )
[01:50] <frxstrem> how do you run .jar programs in Ubuntu?
[01:50] <radi> back back and forward forward
[01:50] <radi> ;p
[01:50] <mikeplus64> "java -jar whateveritis.jar" I think.
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> frxstrem:  java --jar foo.jar    (or it may be -jar)
[01:50] <bastidrazor> frxstrem: java -jar file.jar
[01:51] <frxstrem> Dr_Willis, bastidrazor: ok, thanks
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> silly programs not following the - vs -- standards. :)
[01:51] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  Doesn't work, that command.
[01:51] <stevecam> in nautilus when im browsing the SMB network of a windows machine it wont update the list of new shares until next time i log on to my user, how can i tell the browser in nautilus to reload the folders another computer has shared
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  you still trying to compile geany?
[01:52] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  Yes sir!
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  is there really SOMTHING thats so needed in the new version?  Im using the getdeb version.. but if you just gotta compile check out this command --<
[01:52] <stevecam> i press the reload button in the taskbar but it just reloads what is in the cache
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:   sudo apt-get build-dep geany
[01:53] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  What does it do?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  are you just obsessed with having the latest? or is there an actualy new feature/fix in teh .19 that you must have?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  installs all the dependencies needed to build a package.
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  thus insstalling all the dependencies needed to build from source also. :)
[01:53] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  Is there a problem in trying to actual learn to compile and use the terminal?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  you may want to learn with somthing simpiler..
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  like helloworld.c
[01:54] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  Trust me, that is too simple.
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  you never said this was an exersize to 'learn' you wanted the latest..  theres ways other then source for that as we mentiooned
[01:54] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  I just want to learn how to compile and stop using ubuntu software center or aptitude install.
[01:55] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  Then excuse me.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  use the build-deps feature to insstall all the neded deps/dev packages.. then start compiling.
[01:55] <dtcrshr> aleoram, go slackware
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> 'build-deps' makes compiling stuff a lot easier. :)
[01:55] <aleoram> dtcrshr,  Trust me, I will.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> but if the program was not in the repos. then that wouldent work.
[01:56] <AlesCzech> Hi all
[01:58] <AlesCzech> IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE CZECH REPUBLIC?
[01:58] <ipBoyar> yea. you
[01:59] <AlesCzech> ROFL
[01:59] <ZykoticK9> aleoram, if you really want to move away from software center or aptitude then you might really want to try out another linux distro.  Ubuntu's repo is what makes ubuntu as easy/good.  best of luck whatever you do - linux rocks cause you're free to make your own decisions ;)
[02:00] <MaRk-I> !cezch ! AlesCzech
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  juist a moment and i will pastebin my bash history of how i just compiled geany.
[02:00] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  thank you!
[02:00] <SimonSayez> ZykoticK9, and linuxmakes you use your brain more than Windows
[02:00] <MaRk-I> heh
[02:00] <MaRk-I> !czech | AlesCzech
[02:01] <systemd0wn> question, FreeRadius PAM module, looking for a binary download since i'm getting compile errors (64bit 10.04)
[02:01] <gimmickless_> Server problem: Fresh install of 10.4. Having trouble connecting to WPA-protected router. /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf might be configured improperly. Help?
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> aleoram, for compiling software read any INSTALL or README that comes with the source, but typically you'd use "./configure" then "make" then "sudo make install" but that might NOT be the case for the source YOU are compiling.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/473335/
[02:01] <aleoram> ZykoticK9,  Thank you so much.
[02:01] <systemd0wn> gimmickless, only having problems with wpa?
[02:02] <gimmickless_> systemd0wn: Pretty sure that's the problem. w/o connecting, can't use this box as a Samba server.
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  with the build-dep command to install the needed deps. compiling geany was rather trivial. now IF it was some program not in the repository. You would need to read the output of confiogure and make, and the docs. and learn what support -dev packages were needed for that specific app
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> !checkinstall | aleoram
[02:03] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  I see.
[02:03] <aleoram> Thanks to both of you for replying!
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> ive not even looked at the !compile factoid in ages. :)
[02:04] <systemd0wn> gimmickless_, well lets leave samba out of this for now since it won't effect your associating with an AP. Troubleshoot smb problems once we have connectivity :)
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> !compile
[02:04] <systemd0wn> question, FreeRadius PAM module, looking for a binary download since i'm getting compile errors (64bit 10.04)
[02:04] <gimmickless_> systemd0wn, understood
[02:04] <Wiesshund> Grrr building new catalyst drivers is a pain in the arse
[02:05] <StuckMojo> how do you get to the grub prompt in lucid when there's only one kernel?
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, hold shift down while booting
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> that compile factoid page dosent mention the build-dep option. but it has some othet neat options mentioned. :)
[02:05] <StuckMojo> i.e. how do you boot single user mode or not boot into x?
[02:05] <StuckMojo> ah ok
[02:05] <systemd0wn> gimmickless_, i'm doing a little research, give me a sec
[02:06] <Karen_m> my sound is messed up, when i put my headphones into the jack i hear weird noises
[02:06] <StuckMojo> i jsut upgraded a fresh install of kamic, and it locks the laptop when it loads the X driver
[02:06] <StuckMojo> it was doing that on the install cd to
[02:06] <StuckMojo> too
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  and your video card is a?
[02:06] <StuckMojo> i had hoped it would work once installed
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, it does cover build-dep actually
[02:06] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: it's intel graphics i believe
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  it does? i just skimmed it.. and dident see it.
[02:06] <StuckMojo> this was my mom's old laptop, i'm unfamiliar with it
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, it's there ;)
[02:07] <StuckMojo> let me boot text mode and check it out
[02:07] <StuckMojo> what's no x but fully up? 3?
[02:07]  * cousteau back to his installed ol' good Jaunty
[02:07] <gimmickless_> systemd0wn, no problem. Currently using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo but not yet working yet
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  seems out of order. :) they should mention that befor you do the ./configure.. but i guess it dosent matter :0
[02:07] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, if you upgraded you might be using grub1 (legacy) still!
[02:07] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: so?
[02:08] <ottermaton> Does anyone know anything about fixing a a slow resume from suspend? In particular on a Dell Vostro v13
[02:08] <StuckMojo> that still had a prompt for single user
[02:08] <[thor]> ok, i've got a wierd one guys.. Applications dropdown menu is stuck open, entire top panel is inactive and unresponsive. the remaining desktop is working, docky is working.  Which process should i kill to remove the panel?
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, it's not shift if you're using grub1
[02:08] <StuckMojo> oh. i upgraded from Karmic
[02:08] <StuckMojo> fresh install of karmic
[02:08] <redvil> need help in mounting using iPod with ubuntu...it doesnt detect the device..how do i go about this?
[02:08] <StuckMojo> since the lucid install cd was locking up, but karmic live cd worked fine
[02:08] <oarion7> [thor], gnome-panel, i beleive
[02:08] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, most of my suspend/hibernate problems come from driver issues.
[02:08] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: do you know what it is for grub1?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> !ipod | redvil
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, ESC?  i don't remember, sorry
[02:09] <StuckMojo> i tried esc i think
[02:09] <StuckMojo> shift worked
[02:10] <[thor]> oarion7: thanks for the help good sir, it even re-loaded itself!
[02:10] <systemd0wn> gimmickless_, what happens when you try to connect?
[02:10] <StuckMojo> hmmm...very interesting
[02:10] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, what would you suggest I look at?
[02:10] <StuckMojo> it boots fine using the old kernel from karmic
[02:10] <StuckMojo> i mean x starts and all
[02:11] <StuckMojo> thats...intruiging
[02:12] <StuckMojo> uhhh....
[02:12] <StuckMojo> what takes the place of /etc/inittab now days?
[02:12] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, wow, ya it could be damn near anything. Ok, MY issues all stem from acpi issues for instance I can't dim my screen and things like that. Ok, i would do an lspci and dmesg and comb through
[02:12] <StuckMojo> i want to see what runlevel is no x but fully up
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  ubuntu dosent do it that way
[02:12] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, get a list of all your hardware and look up each one individually and its compatibility with linux
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[02:13] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels | StuckMojo one more for ya ;)
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  there is a 'text' option to tell the system to not start X and disables the fancy plymouth and other eye candys at boot.
[02:13] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, thankfully people much smarter than us have usually worked out many of these issues, especially with common laptops
[02:13] <reff67> who  -r check the current run level use
[02:14] <rxKaffee> in Lucid, what provides sound drivers? ALSA, or pulse, or something different?
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, are you sure a grub setting can change GDM startup?  i though you had to disable GDM separately then the Plymouth stuff.
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> rxKaffee, Pulse is default in Ubuntu - Pulse uses ALSA for lowlevel soundcard stuff BTW
[02:15] <StuckMojo> hmph. this is all new
[02:15] <StuckMojo> damn it
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  the TEXT option makes gdm not load.
[02:15] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, well, I've been searching around and can't find anything really relevant. I even came across a guy who says his vostro v13 resumes in 2.5 seconds.
[02:15] <StuckMojo> this is half of why i bailed on Sid earlier this year
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  not sure how. :) must be in the init scripts checking the boot options
[02:15] <rxKaffee> ZykoticK9: so I need to find an alsa kernel module for my sound card then?
[02:15] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, very cool - will try that right now!
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  go back to linux 1.0 ? :)
[02:15] <StuckMojo> i f*$king hate insserv and such wacky init methods
[02:15] <iflema> !nox | ZykoticK9
[02:15] <wildbat> any one have a pages that explain how to use iptables?
[02:16] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, and how long does that take? Is he using the same OS? 2.5 is pretty damn fast
[02:16] <Guest11331> can someone help me on webkit crashes? any browser that uses webkit browser engine crashes?
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> iflema, thanks!  awesome.
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  upstart seems to work decently well. not very wacky at all.  Compared to the sysv..
[02:16] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, er how long does yours take?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> I still havent found a good 'upstart for dummies' guide yet.
[02:16] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: lenny still uses sysv init
[02:16] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: upstart is different from insserv?
[02:16] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, mine takes about 30 seconds. Same machine, same version (10.04)
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  most of the sysv stuff works with upstart.. but its mainly from upstart 'seeing/doing the right thing' for sysv scripts
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  ive never heard of innserv.
[02:17] <brummbaer> Dr_Willis: there's a pretty good guide in one of the recent Ubuntu Users magazines
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> !info insserv
[02:17] <StuckMojo> insserv - Tool to organize boot sequence using LSB init.d script dependencies
[02:17] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, you upgraded to the latest kernel?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  init.d is not used by upstart, /etc/init is.
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> iflema, Dr_Willis AHHH it all becomes clear - text = single user mode, thus the no X starting.
[02:17] <systemd0wn> question, FreeRadius PAM module, looking for a binary download since i'm getting compile errors (64bit 10.04)
[02:17] <StuckMojo> actually, odds are upstart is what debian switched to as well
[02:17] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, yes, I keep up with updates
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  its not really single user..  it dosent auto-log in does it?   I thought single user. dropped to a root shell.
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  ive not heard of them switching.. but i think some other disrtos have
[02:18] <StuckMojo> aaaaanyway, so it's just  "text" as a kernel option?
[02:18] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: they definately did in side
[02:18] <StuckMojo> sid
[02:18] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, actually the switchs are -text or -S or -s or S or s for Single user modes
[02:18] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, ya, man if he has the same OS and hardware but yours is running slower i really have no idea. I would say driver issues but if both of you have default installs i dunno
[02:18] <StuckMojo> and i think they are in squeeze as well
[02:19] <StuckMojo> hmm
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i'm still going on documentation, haven't tried it yet.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo got unstuck. :)
[02:20] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, I don't know if his is exactly a default install, but, yes it is puzzling
[02:20] <StuckMojo> yeah they use insserv
[02:20] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, thanks for the suggestions though
[02:20] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: for some reason any time i join #debian now, it kicks me off of freenode completely ;)
[02:20] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, no problem. dmesg doesn't have any errors after you come back from suspend?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  they hate ubuntu that much? :)
[02:21] <maco> StuckMojo: try the #debian on OFTC? most debian official channels moved there years ao
[02:21] <maco> *ago
[02:21] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, no it doesn't
[02:22] <marcoss> Does anybody here know if there is a software or something to build a data storage server with acces control list on ubuntu ?
[02:22] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, I'm thinking it might have something to do with my wireless driver which is flaky. Actually, I'm going to experiment with some things
[02:22] <Guest11331> anyone have them work succesfully?
[02:23] <StuckMojo> brb, need a smoke
[02:23] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, cool if i think of anything else i'll hit you up
[02:23] <StuckMojo> maco: the one here is still mega-active
[02:23] <sklav> can someone explain why when i modify nsswitch.conf on ubuntu i can ping google.com with less than 20 ms but if i leave the default that shipped with ubuntu 10.04 ping takes forever to return results?
[02:23] <StuckMojo> ok, well it's not the kernel itself, because it boots text just fine
[02:23] <Wiesshund> has anyone built the ati 10.7 catalyst drivers?
[02:24]  * StuckMojo heads off for a smoke
[02:24] <Guest11331> ok nevermind
[02:24] <sklav> I can't be the only one seeing the slow response on cmd line ping's in ubuntu 10.04 btw this is tested in multiple locations
[02:25] <slinker1> hmmm apparently robin has the same issue :)
[02:26] <sklav> slinker1, you refering to my question
[02:26] <Guest11331> so noone has issues with webkit engine in web browsers???????????
[02:26] <slinker1> just remarking that he pinged out right after your statement
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest11331:  not that ive seen.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest11331:  you cheked the forums and bug reports?
[02:27] <gimmickless_> systemd0wn: -bash /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: Permission denied
[02:27] <gimmickless_> sorry for the delay. dinner.
[02:28] <Guest11331> Dr_Willis: yes, and i havent found a solution
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  what was the exact command you used?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Guest11331:  but others mention an issue?  what sort of 'issue' ?
[02:28] <Guest11331> crashes on youtube videos, and javascript heavy sites
[02:28] <sklav> slinker1, try pinging google.com
[02:28] <gimmickless_> sudo wpa_passphrase [Name] [password] > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:28] <sklav> and then ping the ip equivalent
[02:29] <sklav> you will see what i mean
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  2hen using > and sudo,. there can be problems.. the > does not get the sudo rights.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  do it from a root shell 'sudo -s'
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  or -->  echo "foo" | sudo tee /root/somefile
[02:30] <tktiddle> I Im trying to install Ubuntu on the primiary HD the secondary is just a data disk.  I just reformatted the primary HD using MBR and did a fresh install of ubuntu to the entire drive.  On boot I get 'BOOTMGR is missing' and have to use a bootdisk to load ubuntu.  I've had this problem for an age now can anyone help me fix it?
[02:30] <sklav> slinker1, did you try ?
[02:31] <filipe> hi, someone can help me? i have a notebook dell vostro 1000 with ubuntu 10.04 and i don't give start my wlan... don't working ...
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> tktiddle:  'reformated the HD using MBR' WHats MBR?  You sure the bios is set to boot the proper HD?
[02:31] <gimmickless_> Dr_Willis: tried sudo -s
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  see some background info at -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[02:31] <filipe> hi, someone can help me? i have a notebook dell vostro 1000 with ubuntu 10.04 and i don't give start my wlan... don't working ...
[02:32] <ndxtg> this is not a right place to ask but I have no idea where to ask: does {2}nict mean "nnict" or "nictnict" in reg_expr?
[02:32] <StealFalcon> hi i need help
[02:32] <welinux> !зштп
[02:32] <welinux> !ping
[02:32] <hoosiers_83> looking for a Rhythmbox alternative.  the version via synaptic is outdated and crashes when i adjust the volume, the recent stable release (0.13) also is buggy and has to re-import my music library on every startup
[02:33] <filipe> please, i can't work my wireless in the dell vostro 1000 with ubuntu 10.04
[02:33] <StealFalcon> i aacadentily installed kde and xfce how do i delete them?
[02:33] <tktiddle> Dr_Willis: bios is set correct, I used the disk format utility to format the drive and it gives you a number of options when formatting like apple format, 'mbr'
[02:33] <hoosiers_83> needs to work with my sandisk fuze also
[02:33] <StealFalcon> on my ubuntu
[02:33] <tktiddle> I chose MBR
[02:33] <gimmickless_> hoosiers_83: try Audacios
[02:33] <gimmickless_> *Audacious
[02:33] <StealFalcon> anyone?
[02:33] <epinky> StealFalcon: use Synaptic
[02:33] <filipe> how can i use it?
[02:33] <gimmickless_> It's got the same look and feel of Winamp
[02:33] <sklav> mbr probably wiped out the Master boot record
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  repeats the   thing exactly 2 times.. the way i am reading this site --<  http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html
[02:34] <Guest11331> StealFalcon: trey this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome, this has worked for me, just copy the code and paste in terminal, ive done it multiple times
[02:34] <tktiddle> sklav: I then did a fresh install of ubuntu, How can I fix the MBR?
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> tktiddle:  disk format utility? wait a moment - you on an APPLE ?
[02:34] <sklav>  think he is
[02:34] <Suit_Of_Sables> hey gang! running a live CD on my old PPC mac. The wiki says you can get wireless working with the bcm43xx-fwcutter package installed. but a reboot is required. obviously this is no good for me on a live CD and I can't install due to a damaged HDD. any suggestions?
[02:34] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: so is {2}nict = "nictnict" or "nnict"?
[02:34] <marcoss> Does anybody here know if there is a software or something to build a data storage server with acces control list on ubuntu ?
[02:34] <tktiddle> Dr_Willis: its amd64 ubuntu
[02:34] <Suit_Of_Sables> besides smashing the piece of junk with a hammer?
[02:35] <tktiddle> not apple
[02:35] <Tecna> "Failed to retrieve share list from server" Somebody please help me figure out what's wrong with my samba server?   CLI output: http://pastebin.com/j3n4niis
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:   a{3} matches aaa
[02:35] <claybustr> you can install drivers on a live cd
[02:35] <claybustr> they won't stick around on reboot, but you can do it
[02:35] <epinky> marcoss: Samba?
[02:35] <sklav> tktiddle, try grub-instal /dev/sda if that is your drive
[02:35] <sklav> but at your own risk if your dual booting
[02:36] <gimmickless_> Dr_Willis: tried sudo -s, and then retried the wpa_passphrase line. No access denied. But no ping either.
[02:36] <marcoss> epinky, yes but is there a graphical software or something else?
[02:36] <StealFalcon> Guset11331 pm
[02:36] <epinky> marcoss: SWAT?
[02:37] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: ok so ab{2} will match "abab" or "abb" ?
[02:37] <epinky> !samba| marcoss
[02:37] <sklav> Tecna, maybe using /dev as a share is a bad idea
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i would think its abab
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  but i cant find a good exmple page that shows it that way
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  try it and see
[02:37] <sklav> since /dev is part of the filesystem and used by the kernel and devices
[02:38] <tktiddle> sklav: ok think I may have tried this before, giving it another shot, Im just single booting ubuntu
[02:38] <trism> ndxtg: I believe it would be abb in general, unless you grouped ab, like (ab){3} (depending on the regex language)
[02:38] <sklav> maybe change /dev to /home/dev and share with proper permissions that folder
[02:38] <Tecna> sklav: It's a private network with a tight security.  I have my reasons for sharing /dev
[02:38] <sklav> tktiddle, how many hdd in your pc?
[02:38] <tktiddle> 2
[02:39] <ndxtg> ok thanks Dr_Willis and trism
[02:39] <sklav> dual booting?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:   yea. the () may be needed - thers sites to test out/play with the things.   http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/regex.htm#submatches
[02:39] <ns5> delalloc, nodelalloc, which one of these two is used by default in ext4 filesystem?
[02:39] <tktiddle> sklav: 1st ubuntu, 2nd data
[02:39] <filipe> i need from help, i have a dell vostro 1000 and my wireless don't work, help please!
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  also watch out for various specific 'defaults' that some programs use in their regexp engines..
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  ie: grep may differe slightly then perl in some area
[02:39] <sklav> tktiddle, can you unhook the sata cable from the data drive?
[02:40] <Renovatio> hey has anyone worked with making softwares for ebay and knows how to make accounts and etc?
[02:40] <sklav> if your jumpers are not set correctly in the case of ide aka cable select
[02:40] <claybustr> my wife clicked on a facebook virus. no worries, right, it's ubuntu 9.04. She's claiming its been sending pm's to her friends now.  All the usual suspects look ok, but I'm wondering about security of firefox & its plugins. Are there any recent attack vectors I should be checking?
[02:40] <filipe> i need from help, i have a dell vostro 1000 and my wireless don't work, help please!
[02:40] <sklav> the drives get matched where cable is connected it decided who is master or slave
[02:40] <filipe> i need from help, i have a dell vostro 1000 and my wireless don't work, help please!
[02:40] <sklav> if sata then you just removed a possible conflict if you motherboard is not behaving
[02:41] <marcoss> epinky, what is swat ?
[02:41] <Renovatio> if anyone can do that coding, we can make millions easily
[02:41] <filipe> @ALL i need from help, i have a dell vostro 1000 and my wireless don't work, help please!
[02:41] <sklav> filipe, what is your wireless card?
[02:41] <SimonSayez> ndiswrapper
[02:42] <filipe> how can i see it?
[02:42] <sklav> is it intel?
[02:42] <Tecna> filipe: lspci
[02:42] <mbeierl> how do I change the iTunes backup location in gtkpod?  If I change it in the UI and click apply, then exit and restart gtkpod, it's back to its old location.  If I delete the repo and recreate it, it goes back to its old location.
[02:42] <SimonSayez> no its a broadcom
[02:42] <filipe> 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[02:42] <tktiddle> sklav: yes! works without second disk
[02:42] <SimonSayez> told yah
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  the #perl channel  and #pytho channel may point you do some good sites to play with regrexps also.
[02:43] <filipe> sklav 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[02:43] <kochii> I dreamt I was ubuntu
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> oops #python
[02:43] <sklav> tktiddle, i read somewhere grub2 had issue with installing boot code when 2 drives are present
[02:43] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: yea Im currently on the php channel
[02:44] <Renovatio> hullo
[02:44] <Renovatio> anyone
[02:44] <mbeierl> where does gtkpod save its info if not in .gtkpod subdir?!?
[02:44] <SimonSayez> filipe, Download the Dell Ubuntu Linux iso from here and install it and then upgrade to ubuntu 10.04 http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/w/linux/building-base-ubuntu-factory-iso.aspx
[02:44] <ndxtg> filipe: if its laptop, remember to switch on the wireless button (this sounds silly but yea, just check)
[02:45] <filipe> yep, its a laptop but i tru FN+F2 but don't work
[02:45] <Frankiitaa> hey guys dont u have problems whit ur dvd drives in ubuntu 10.04?
[02:45] <psycho789> what are the benefits of using ubuntu
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  an issue with some of the web site 'regexp' builder/test urls can be they are using javascript's regrexp so can be quirky.
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  no. :)
[02:45] <sklav> filipe, try this i just googled your card and this is what i found http://nfolamp.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/ubuntu-10-04-and-broadcom-bcm43xx-wireless/
[02:45] <SimonSayez> filipe, Do you know to burn an iso ?
[02:46] <ndxtg> filipe: i meant the switch button along the laptop side, not the key combination
[02:46] <Frankiitaa> i have tested on many pc and all shown problems
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  perhaps state the problem.
[02:46] <Tecna> SimonSayez: I would think dell would have a separate driverset rather than making you install the complete OS, like windows. >.>
[02:46] <sklav> anyways back to why i came here
[02:46] <Frankiitaa> dr_willis what do u mean
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  you have said you have a problem..  thats very  Vague....
[02:47] <sklav> anybody try pinging from a command line and notice some serious lag in name ressolution
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  i use my DVD drives just find under Ubuntu.
[02:47] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: i mainly use egrep and /usr/share/words to test reg_expr
[02:47] <SimonSayez> Tecna, I have a Dell laptop and I always keep the Dell Version of Ubuntu Linux because the wifi drivers are built into that live disk
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  yea. egrep can be a little different from grep/perl/python. somthing to watch out for.
[02:48] <Frankiitaa> all my dvd drives have problems u can see it
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  the books i have made that point over and over and over.
[02:48] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: what is the book name again? :)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  cant see what? You cant access data disks? you cant burn disks? You cant play movies?  they shoot flames out of the slot?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  one by O'reaily. got it years ago
[02:49] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: reg_expr for dummies? :D
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i avoide books that have dummies in the title.
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  those are not the O;reialy  books. :) theirs have the woodgraving prints on them normally
[02:49] <psycho789> is ubuntu better than w7? why?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> psycho789:  Yes.. its free.. next question...
[02:50] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: I've seen like a hundred books of the same yellow template with dummies on though :D
[02:50] <kochii> ok
[02:50] <Frankiitaa> dr_willis i just can use the dvd drive if the disk is inside when i turn on the pc once time i try to change the disk it become uselle until next reboot whit the next cd inside
[02:50] <red2kic> psycho789: Why should you pay for oxygen? :(
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i dont even buy those if they are ont eh bargin bins.
[02:50] <ndxtg> *the word dummies
[02:50] <Frankiitaa> and i have 7 pc
[02:50] <psycho789> other than it's free. because thats pretty horrible logic im talking about features and stuff. i know nothing about linux
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  you are right clicking on the disk on the desktop and using the 'eject' menu item?
[02:51] <kochii> hi all, is it suggestable that I do dual boot xp/ubuntu or it will make computer unstable
[02:51] <Frankiitaa> i have try all ways
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> psycho789:  theres numerous sites that debate windows vs linux.
[02:51] <R3cur51v3> Will dual-band wireless offer any advantages on a small network with 2-5 clients?
[02:51] <R3cur51v3> err, I'll ask #offtopic nv
[02:51] <ndxtg> In graphics term: Ubuntu + Compiz is better than Win 7, equivalent to Mac
[02:51] <R3cur51v3> nvm
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> psycho789:  its main feature is 'its not windows' :)  it dosent have teh same windows problems.. it has its own.
[02:51] <jrib> kochii: if you need xp, sure.  It will not make your computer "unstable"
[02:51] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: You're doing it wrong.  You can't eject a CD unless you've made sure that it's no longer in use by programs and has been unmounted.
[02:52] <epinky> dual band wireless ?:o
[02:52] <SimonSayez> ndxtg, Also you can do a lot more programming stuff with Linux than on Windows 7
[02:52] <Paddy_NI> Hey there I am looking for a nice simple netbook email client that my mother could use on a netbook, I have already tried anjal but sadly it will not start.. so short of getting to the root of the anjal problem are there any other recommended email clients preferably with indicator-applet support that are suited to a netbook?
[02:52] <kochii> jrib: whats a good dual boot program ?
[02:53] <jrib> kochii: huh?
[02:53] <Tecna> psycho789: Ubuntu, like other distributions of linux, give you complete control over your system.
[02:53] <ndxtg> grub?
[02:53] <jrib> !dual | kochii
[02:53] <Frankiitaa> tecna: how i have to do it ?
[02:53] <jrib> !dualboot | kochii
[02:53] <kochii> jrib: ndxtg: yea is grup good ?
[02:53] <jrib> kochii: yes, you want to use grub...
[02:53] <SimonSayez> the Ubuntu Linux environment is good for Java and Android programming too
[02:54] <kochii> jrib: oh ok...heard a while ago (around 4 years) about ppl complaining about it
[02:54] <neil_ubuntu> !ubottu
[02:54] <ndxtg> there is no dualboot program that enables you to "edit-on-air" the menu item of the boot menu like grub
[02:54] <SimonSayez> grub2 is a pain in the ass they could have simplified it a little better
[02:54] <kochii> tnx jrib:
[02:54] <ndxtg> <---- (failed sentence)
[02:54] <psycho789> thanks i think im going to go ahead and put ubuntu on my old dell just to try it out
[02:55] <StealFalcon> lol1
[02:55] <StealFalcon> !
[02:55] <StealFalcon> pls
[02:55] <kochii> where you going to get drivers psycho789
[02:55] <StealFalcon> anyone!
[02:55] <kochii> i have a lenovo and it doest provide linux drivers
[02:55] <KE1HA> psycho789, check the chipset, if it's an intel i8xx series, there's work around for install & boot. Just FYI.
[02:55] <SimonSayez> How old is your Dell machine ?
[02:55] <welinux> !ubottu
[02:56] <psycho789> 2004
[02:56] <KE1HA> Yeah, check the chip-set.
[02:56] <kochii> next laptop i get is definetly a ubuntu...dont have to worry about drivers and bs
[02:56] <kochii> i mean an ubuntu built on it
[02:56] <StealFalcon> pls can anyone help i need to roll back all system changes by 30 minutes!
[02:56] <kochii> concrete
[02:56] <StealFalcon> pls can anyone help i need to roll back all system changes by 30 minutes!
[02:56] <SimonSayez> You can get the Dell Ubuntu Version of Linux here: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/w/linux/building-base-ubuntu-factory-iso.aspx
[02:56] <ndxtg> lol since when ubuntu sell laptops?
[02:56] <lucas-arg> hello, i have an hp dv6 laptop, and when im restarting it or powering it off i hear a cracking sound or something through the speakers... its no bad but its really enoyin and cant find any tweak for this, if there is any sugestion please give me one, thanks
[02:56] <SimonSayez> I would burn the iso
[02:56] <epinky> StealFalcon: could you define dual band wireless?, my MW knowledge is not that advanced :)
[02:56] <kochii> cool...tnx SimonSayez
[02:57] <Barnabas> kochii, the Lenovos are to my experience some of the best for ubuntu (linux)
[02:57] <Barnabas> good driver support
[02:57] <StealFalcon> i installed all interfaces for ubuntu it screwed the hekk up my pc
[02:57] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: Close programs that are accessing the disc(if something says to eject your disc, it probably isn't accessing it).  This is usually enough to make it work, but sometimes you need to right-click the disc in nautilus to unmount and/or eject.  You should also man umount and man eject for information about doing this manually, and possibly using the force option if needed.
[02:57] <StealFalcon> i need to roll back my whole sys by 30 mins
[02:58] <ndxtg> dual Lan is possible, but dual Wirelss ... no idea
[02:58] <kochii> I have a friends father who bought a ubuntu laptop...he wants windows xp on it though...i could have traded mine with him if my #7 key was not broken
[02:58] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: what do you mean by you installed all interfaces?
[02:58] <savid> Hi, every time I VNC into my desktop,   I get the screen loaded, but it never updates.  (e.g., I move a window, but nothing happens through vnc).  I've confirmed that my keyboard and mouse movements are making it through, I'm just not getting screen updates. Any ideas what might cause this?
[02:58] <kochii> Barnabas: where do you get drivers for them though ?
[02:58] <StealFalcon> kde xfce
[02:58] <Barnabas> kochii, with the kernel
[02:58] <StealFalcon> i allready have gnome
[02:59] <kochii> Barnabas: me no understand
[02:59] <Barnabas> so they are there as a part of ubuntu
[02:59] <jrib> !away > radar3d
[02:59] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome
[02:59] <Barnabas> kochii, you dont need to "get" them
[02:59] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: you will have to remove KDE and then follow the link to also remove xfce
[02:59] <kochii> Barnabas: so my hotkeys, volume etc work ?
[02:59] <Barnabas> kochii, they are part of your os
[02:59] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[02:59] <kochii> Barnabas: really ?
[02:59] <StealFalcon> ok
[03:00] <StealFalcon> so just chage the command to fit xfce?
[03:00] <kochii> Barnabas: so ubuntu comes loaded with the drivers for all those devices from different manufacturers ?
[03:00] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: at the bottom of the page there is a link to remove xfce
[03:00] <Barnabas> kochii, on my last Lenovo (ibm) all buttons worked as designed
[03:00] <welinux> StealFalcon: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[03:00] <StealFalcon> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:01] <kochii> Barnabas: or my concept of device is just totally wrong?
[03:01] <hiexpo> hmm
[03:01] <Frankiitaa> tecna: how do i have to take out de dvd ?
[03:01] <savid> oh, nm -- had to disable compiz
[03:01] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome this link is better
[03:01] <SimonSayez> The Dell Ubunto Linux isos are here I gave the wrong link sorry http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/jaunty/iso-images/
[03:01] <kochii> Barnabas: what lendovo did you have ?
[03:01] <Barnabas> kochii, no you are just used to the windows approach where you have to download drivers from a multitude of sources
[03:01] <Guest11331> StealFalcon: go to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[03:01] <xangua> StealFalcon: synaptic, apt, aptitude, software center¿
[03:01] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: close Synaptic and or Software Center
[03:01] <welinux> StealFalcon: simple problem - close synaptic or close terminal aniway
[03:02] <SimonSayez> Burn the Dell Ubuntu Iso and see if the old drivers are there for your old Dell Machine they probably are
[03:02] <Barnabas> t61 - its an older model today
[03:02] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: once the dvd has been unmounted, you should be able to just press the eject button on your drive.
[03:02] <kochii> Barnabas: wow thats amazing man
[03:03] <StuckMojo> so...starting gdm hard locks the system
[03:03] <StealFalcon> ty
[03:03] <Barnabas> kochii, in general you can define your buttons to do what you want with them - also the multimedia ones
[03:03] <kochii> Barnabas:I think Im very close to knocking xp off my laptop
[03:03] <Barnabas> for all pcs
[03:03] <StuckMojo> i booted into text mode then sshed in and started gdm by hand
[03:03] <StuckMojo> and it almost immediately locked
[03:03] <Barnabas> but it is a bit technical
[03:03] <Frankiitaa> tecna: so i cant just take out the dvd like i used to do in windows
[03:03] <Frankiitaa> ?
[03:04] <psycho789> the chipset on my dell is Intel 855PM Chipset would it be hard to install
[03:04] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: Tell me what you're doing before trying to eject.
[03:04] <Barnabas> kochii, XP is getting older - so yes you should probably look at ubuntu or perhaps win7
[03:04] <Barnabas> kochii, support for XP is also about to be closed down
[03:05] <Barnabas> kochii, stay away from Vista :-)
[03:05] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Nope just burn an old Dell Ubuntu iso from here http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/jaunty/iso-images/
[03:05] <SimonSayez> psycho789, then upgrade
[03:05] <psycho789> alright thanks
[03:05] <kochii> Barnabas: probably an obvious question but just want to confirm to get some more confidence haha...And ubuntu has features for power use like conserving battery by lowering cpu speed etc ?
[03:05] <pradeep> not a fan of windows but xp is about the best windows os
[03:05] <knoppies> kochii, yes
[03:05] <kochii> Barnabas: yea vista is shitte
[03:06] <Guest88579> or windows 7, but i still rarely use it
[03:06] <welinux> pradeep: may be - but it is offtopic
[03:06] <knoppies> kochii, you can even force the CPU speed stepping to sit at the speed you want it to.
[03:06] <pepper_haze> Man, I feel better now
[03:06] <IdleOne> !language | kochii
[03:06] <Barnabas> kochii, yes there is a daemon kalled powernod you can install to throttle the cpu
[03:06] <kochii> I wouldnt want to touch any newer shites the push from seattle
[03:06] <Barnabas> kochii, but most BIOS today can do the same
[03:06] <pradeep> welinux, YUP IT IS REALLY IRRELEVANT
[03:06] <h00k> kochii: please watch the language
[03:06] <kochii> ooops...sorry...apologies
[03:06] <Barnabas> kochii, drop to reduced cpu speed when on battery
[03:06] <xangua> why not just recomend the new official ubuntu lucid to psycho, SimonSayez ¿¿
[03:07] <StuckMojo> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[03:07] <psycho789> SimonSez, which of those iso files do i burn?
[03:07] <StuckMojo> hmmm
[03:07] <SimonSayez> psycho789, this one ubuntu-9.04-dell_A01.iso 05-Oct-2009
[03:07] <kochii> Barnabas: cool...thanks yo
[03:07] <hiexpo> hmm
[03:07] <psycho789> thank you
[03:08] <ShapeShifter499> is there a download manager for package managers(like synaptic) ?
[03:08] <SimonSayez> xangua, because the Dell Ubuntu Linux live disk has wifi drivers pre installed
[03:08] <pradeep> my screen flickers alot any clues
[03:08] <n-iCe> hi I did a clean ubuntu 10.04 install, but the clock is one hour delayed, any suggestions? I already set it, and changes in every boot.
[03:08] <StuckMojo> ok, so starting X kills it
[03:08] <ShapeShifter499> so I can fully use my ISP's internet speed
[03:08] <StuckMojo> so it's not gdm specifically. which is no surprise
[03:08] <SimonSayez> xangua, He can always upgrade to 10.04 later on
[03:08] <hiexpo> 9.10
[03:08] <welinux> pradeep: I'm trying to understand but maybe your sentence in another way What's wrong
[03:08] <xangua> from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 ¿¿ :S
[03:08] <kochii> alright...gnight all
[03:09] <SimonSayez> xangua, right
[03:09] <Tecna> n-iCe: sounds like your clock is being set with a NTP server and your location is set wrong.
[03:09] <xangua> SimonSayez: that sucks
[03:09] <n-iCe> Tecna: what to do
[03:09] <StuckMojo> no Xorg.0.log is writeen
[03:09] <Barnabas> ShapeShifter499, you can only utilize your total bandwith if the host you are downloading from serve at equal or higher speed than that
[03:09] <SimonSayez> xangua, yeah but the Dell Ubuntu Linux Live disk has wifi drivers
[03:10] <Tecna> n-iCe: I suggest checking your location in the clock settings.   also check daylight savings options.
[03:10] <xangua> psycho789: better try first the ubuntu lucid live cd
[03:10] <pradeep> welinux, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/587935?comments=all
[03:10] <ShapeShifter499> Barnabas: you know like download multiple chunks of one file so it downloads faster..
[03:10] <pradeep> that is the issue
[03:10] <pradeep> i have
[03:10] <n-iCe> thanks
[03:11] <SimonSayez> xangua, the Dell Ubuntu Linux Live iso will have wifi drivers out of the box
[03:11] <Barnabas> ShapeShifter499, yes but the host you are dl'ing from still has a max speed determinded by its uplink speed
[03:11] <jeremie> Bonjou
[03:11] <SimonSayez> xangua, otherwise he would have to plug an ethernet cable into his machine
[03:11] <jeremie> Bonjour**
[03:11] <jeremie> exit
[03:11] <Frankiitaa> tecna i just tested it just inserting a disk after that i eject it and when i put another disk inside it dont works
[03:12] <xangua> SimonSayez: what wifi driver¿¿ then why not better install the oficial ubuntu ang get the drivers from the dell ubuntu cd¿¿
[03:12] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: Are you saying that you were able to eject the first disc, but not the second?
[03:13] <SimonSayez> xangua, when he puts in the Dell Ubuntu Live disk into his machine it should detect his wifi card, 10.0.4 most likely wont
[03:13] <antonio_> I'm going nuts..trying to transfer some files from my old lappy that is pretty muched effed up...
[03:13] <pradeep> welinux,  cant hear from you again
[03:13] <Barnabas> SimonSayez, some of the newer dell wifi nics could not yet supported by the linux kernel
[03:14] <xangua> SimonSayez: that's what i said, he can JUST get the drivers from the dell ubuntu cd
[03:14] <welinux> pradeep: gotcha thanks I'm trying to participate  because it is the best place to understand ubuntu in live mode from all over the world
[03:14] <antonio_> I can't burn a dvd...and I can't get files onto either flash drive (error reading from file: input/output error)
[03:14]  * Wiesshund does the happy dance, catalyst 10.7 ubuntu specific build --=success=--
[03:14] <Barnabas> SimonSayez, try an lspci to list the devices on the pc
[03:14] <antonio_> is there any kind of quick fix to get around this?
[03:14] <SimonSayez> antonio_, you can buy a USB enclosure for your hardrive take your hard drive out your machine and hook it up to your current pc via usb
[03:14] <Tecna> antonio_: Transfer across the network.
[03:15] <Wiesshund> antonio_ you trying to install ubuntu?
[03:15] <antonio_> wiesshund: already installed on this machine...
[03:15] <Frankiitaa> tecna i be able to eject the discs, but i can use my dvd drive once i have eject the first, it dont read any disc at all
[03:15] <psycho789> my 2004 dell has no wireless anyway
[03:15] <antonio_> tecna: using open ssh?  I've got 3.2 gigs to transfer
[03:15] <psycho789> so should i just install the other verison
[03:16] <SimonSayez> psycho789, its not a laptop ?
[03:16] <Wiesshund> antonio_ sorry i thought maybe you sere trying to do a driveless install. thats what i get for joining the channel late :)
[03:16] <psycho789> it is a laptop
[03:16] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: is that driver suppose to be good for ATI Radeon Cards?
[03:16] <psycho789> it has no wireless drivers or anything
[03:16] <psycho789> its too old i guess
[03:16] <Tecna> antonio_: a few gigs shouldn't take very long to copy using a samba share.
[03:16] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Does it have a wifi card ?
[03:16] <psycho789> no
[03:16] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 10.7? yea
[03:16] <psycho789> i would have to buy a wifi usb or something
[03:16] <SimonSayez> psycho789, then you might as well download the new ubuntu and install it
[03:17] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Do you have a PCMCIA slot on your laptop
[03:17] <Tecna> antonio_: unfortunately, I can't help with setting that up, because I'm here looking for help with that.
[03:17] <antonio_> tecna: how long would moving over 3 gigs take across a network?
[03:17] <psycho789> no
[03:17] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: I'm using the ones from xorg edgers PPA and there are a few native linux games that are fing up
[03:17] <SimonSayez> psycho789, type the model of your 2004 dell laptop please
[03:18] <Tecna> antonio_: that depends on the machines involved, but that usually would take me at most 15 minutes.
[03:18] <psycho789> wait acutally yes i do
[03:18] <psycho789> sorry
[03:18] <psycho789> but its dell latiude d600
[03:18] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 10.7 = linux 8.75.5 i used the official package from ati and built it
[03:18] <psycho789> latitude*
[03:19] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: how would I switch to those drivers?
[03:19] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 i didnt try any of the 3rd party builds
[03:20] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: before (when switching) I totally messed my system up cuz I didn't switch divers correctly, I had to reinstall
[03:20] <antonio_> is there any linux command/package to temporarily "fix" a drive..just so that I can actually move these dang files?
[03:20] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Is this your Dell Machine http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd600/en/ug/index.htm
[03:20] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 you can download them from www.ati.com and make the build, ive got the packages i made but i dont know it they wind up being machine specific when built or not
[03:20] <Barnabas> ShapeShifter499, I have good experience with the fglrx drivers on Radeon 9700 - my old pc
[03:21] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 yea when switching, deactivate then mark old driver for total removal. they forget to tell you that in the docs
[03:21] <psycho789> simon: yes thats it
[03:21] <ndxtg> does anyone know what version of Catalyst for Radeon Mobility X1600?
[03:21] <ndxtg> I need to run OpenGL the fglrx doesnt work weel
[03:21] <SimonSayez> psycho789, you should have a PCMCIA slot on that machine
[03:21] <psycho789> yeah sorry i corrected myself but you missed it
[03:22] <antonio_> is there any linux command/package to temporarily "fix" a drive..just so that I can actually move these dang files?
[03:22] <SimonSayez> psycho789, I see it here http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd600/en/ug/pccards.htm#wp1104260
[03:22] <Tecna> Wiesshund: when compiling from source, it's best to do it again on each system, unless you're sure the other system has the same dependencies and libraries
[03:22] <Wiesshund> Tecna yea thats what im thinking as well
[03:23] <psycho789> yeah its there
[03:23] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: so should I mark all xorg drivers for full removal ?
[03:23] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 also not noted is you wind up having to manualy remove your /urs/shate/ati directory
[03:23] <psycho789> simon: i thought it did not have one but i was wrong
[03:23] <SimonSayez> psycho789, you need something like this for wifi access from that Dell Machine http://imagine41.com/orinoco-gold-11-mbit-s-wireless-pcmcia-slot-wifi-card.html?___store=english_11271901265
[03:23] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 yes if you want to build and switch drivers you have to, but dont reboot until new drivers are built and installed
[03:24] <Frankiitaa> dr_willis: i just can use my dvd drive just if i turn of the pc with the disc that i want to use inside, if i change the disk i can use my dvd drive to next reboot.
[03:24] <psycho789> thank you
[03:24] <Barnabas> ShapeShifter499, or make an xorg.conf that utilizes the driver you select
[03:24] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Orinoco PCMCIA cards work well in Linux
[03:24] <antonio_> is there any linux command/package to temporarily "fix" a drive..just so that I can actually move these dang files?
[03:25] <SimonSayez> psycho789, That will give you wifi access
[03:25] <ShapeShifter499> Barnabas: never messed with the xorg.conf file
[03:25] <psycho789> ok
[03:25] <Tecna> antonio_: what do you mean by "fix"?  What's wrong with it?
[03:25] <Wiesshund> Barnabas 10.04 doesnt have one by default
[03:25] <psycho789> i will check those out
[03:25] <Barnabas> Wiesshund, no but you are free to make one
[03:26] <antonio_> tecna: If I try copying files from .mozilla-thunderbird to a flash drive, burn them to a dvd, etc.  I get a input/output error
[03:26] <Tecna> antonio_: what filesystem is it?
[03:27] <antonio_> would that matter?  considering I can't even burn them, its more than likely not anything to do with the filesystem...
[03:28] <Frankiitaa> i got this problem do u know somethin about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1468035
[03:28] <Wiesshund> antonio_ i missed the beginning. you having a drive failing or something?
[03:28] <ProfOak> Would any of you know where I would go about a question regarding unetbootin and syslinux.cfg editing?
[03:28] <antonio_> yeah basical,ly wiesshund:
[03:28] <Tecna> antonio_: if you're getting i/o errors from that drive, you need to check the filesystem for errors, and that's done differently on some filesystems
[03:28] <sacul_> hello
[03:29] <sosaited> I am in need of some quick and really needed help. I have been trying to install Lucid on my Karmic + XP system for the last 18 hours, and every method I have tried gives one or another error. I first tried with direct boot of ISO from grub. that eventually gave error of sort can't unmount /iso... Then I tried UnetBootin HDD method, that gave "Unable to mount medium for live.....". Then I tried UnetBootin USB, that just stuck on the purple screen for li
[03:29] <sosaited> ke 15 minutes. Then I burned two cds, One didnt boot at all, second gave me a "error reading boot cd"
[03:29] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: ok I've downloaded the drivers from the ATI page, but should I remove the xorg stuff before or after running the installer?
[03:29] <antonio_> also on a side note, a minute ago I logged into failsafe gnome...now I can't select my normal login
[03:29] <Wiesshund> antonio_ what filesystem is the drive?
[03:29] <antonio_> whoops..fixed failsafe gnome
[03:29] <duke_> hello how i compile code cpp to asm using nasm
[03:29] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 Yes, or i blieve you will find the build fail due to clashing libs
[03:29] <ProfOak> sosaited: Have you tried the wubi installer?
[03:29] <antonio_> how can I tell what the fs is?
[03:30] <sosaited> And I have a "thing" with myself to not eat anything until I install this, so its kinda of an "underweight guy becoming really underweight" :)
[03:30] <antonio_> wiseshund: and tecna: is there a linux command /term command to discover what the filesystem is?
[03:30] <sosaited> Prof0ak: No. I am trying everything from my Karmic.
[03:30] <Tecna> antonio_: mount (with no args/options)
[03:30] <ProfOak> antonio_: sudo fdisk -l
[03:30] <Wiesshund> antonio_ sudo fdisk -l
[03:31] <lovinglinux> What is happening with the forums?
[03:31] <Tecna> I like how there are a bunch of ways to do everything
[03:31] <antonio_> /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440 wiseshund: prof0ak: and tecna:
[03:31] <duke_> you guys never user nasm?
[03:31] <duke_> or gcc
[03:32] <Taev> hey guys I may have deleted some files I shouldn't have during a Clam AV scan and now Apache won't start
[03:32] <Taev> apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mod_python.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so into server: libpython2.5.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:32] <IdleOne> duke_: you getting any specific errors?
[03:32] <ProfOak> antonio_: You're not able to use sudo?
[03:32] <FabParma> duke_: i just used 2 mins a go
[03:32] <SimonSayez> duke: Yes NASM is for hardcore assembly language programming
[03:32] <Taev> i reinstalled libapache2-mod-python
[03:32] <Taev> but i keep getting the same error
[03:32] <antonio_> guess not...
[03:33] <hunahpu> Taev: the mython mod file has a different name, check your apache mods directory to get it and change it
[03:33] <Tecna> antonio_: ProfOak: inability to sudo could really screw you.
[03:33] <sosaited> For the love of Linux, someone please read my cry
[03:33] <Taev> huh. why would it have a different name?
[03:33] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, sounds like you need to boot single user mode then change the permission on /etc/sudoers
[03:33] <duke_> no withougt joke i really forget the line nasm -a bla.cpp
[03:33] <Taev> where would the apache mods directory be?
[03:33] <antonio_> so what in the heck can I do...I NEED to backup these files really bad
[03:33] <duke_> gets me tons of errors
[03:33] <hunahpu> Taev: the one you install via ubuntu repos has a different name, check your /etc/apache2/mods-available directory
[03:33] <Tecna> antonio_: are you using a livecd?
[03:34] <Taev> in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/?
[03:34] <Taev> ok
[03:34] <antonio_> zykotick9: can I use "chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers"
[03:34] <StuckMojo> placing i915.modeset=1 on the boot line in grub does work.
[03:34] <StuckMojo> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[03:34] <antonio_> tecna: no I am not
[03:34] <StuckMojo> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/554835
[03:34] <Tecna> antonio_: also, do you have or can you make one?
[03:34] <SimonSayez> duke_, Why not try here type /join #nasm
[03:34] <antonio_> I do have one...
[03:34] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, single user mode give you root access - then you you'll be able to use chmod - without requiring sudo
[03:34] <Barnabas> antonio_, the first thing you must do is backup .. now
[03:34] <hunahpu> Taev: first check in mods-available, after that check the mods-enabled if it is not in the enabled one, just create a symbolic link (wiht ln -s)
[03:34] <Tecna> antonio_: can you make one
[03:34] <Barnabas> antonio_, dump your device
[03:35] <antonio_> barnabas: thats what I am trying to do...
[03:35] <Barnabas> antonio_, work on that
[03:35] <Taev> mod-python.load
[03:35] <Taev> LoadModule python_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:35] <roaddhogg> .
[03:35] <ProfOak> Hey is there something wrong with the ubuntu forums? I can't log in...
[03:35] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: figured it out, if you saw
[03:35] <duke_> error list : http://pastebin.com/duxkHRzf
[03:35] <antonio_> I was just thinking...can I use a livecd to backup everything from my failing hd to my ext 500 gig hd?
[03:35] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: well...more like, found a solution
[03:35] <SimonSayez> duke go here type: /join #nasm and matland will help you with your NASM problem
[03:35] <StuckMojo> it was KMS
[03:35] <Barnabas> antonio_, dd if=/dev/<device> of=/path/to/file
[03:35] <Tecna> antonio_: That what I'm trying to tell you!
[03:35] <Barnabas> antonio_, this will take a while
[03:35] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, nice work!  glad you got it fixed.
[03:35] <antonio_> thanks tecna: ;) firing up the cd :D
[03:35] <Taev> LoadModule python_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so in available
[03:36] <Taev> they are both the same
[03:36] <sosaited> How can I fix "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error when trying to install Ubuntu Lucid (from Karmic) with UnetBootin's HDD option?
[03:36] <Wiesshund> Tecna <facepalm> lol
[03:36] <antonio_> barnabas: whats that do?
[03:36] <roaddhogg> is the ubuntu installed with wubi any different than normal install of ubuntu?
[03:36] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: yeah me too
[03:36] <Barnabas> antonio_, it will dump the erraneous device to a file
[03:36] <ZykoticK9> roaddhogg, yes
[03:37] <Taev> and in /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so is there
[03:37] <Taev> so everything is correct
[03:37] <roaddhogg> how so
[03:37] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: to upgrade to grub2: install grub-pc ?
[03:37] <Barnabas> antonio_, there must be space on the target device to fit of cause
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> roaddhogg, don't use WUBI unless you have too (it makes Ubuntu dependent on Windows - not really a great situation)
[03:37] <roaddhogg> ok
[03:37] <Barnabas> antonio_, that will make a raw dump of what you got right now
[03:37] <hunahpu> Taev: if you have just installed it, you'll need to restart apache so it is loaded
[03:37] <Tecna> antonio_: without sudo working properly in your installed system, live-cd is the only reliable option.
[03:37] <roaddhogg> thats what i thought, thanks for clearing that up
[03:37] <ProfOak> Is there something wrong with the Ubuntu forums?
[03:37] <antonio_> can I use that command to just select one directory?
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, not sure (but sounds good)
[03:37] <Taev> i reinstalled the module
[03:37] <Taev> so I should restart?
[03:38] <antonio_> got my live cd loading up
[03:38] <StuckMojo> hmph
[03:38] <antonio_> if this works gonna be sooo stoked
[03:38] <FabParma> how to hide the kernel list on grub when boots?
[03:38] <hunahpu> Taev: with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart/stop/start
[03:38] <StuckMojo> seems as though i already ahve it
[03:38] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, grub2 - GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package)
[03:39] <sosaited> I am getting  "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error when trying to install Ubuntu Lucid (from Karmic) with UnetBootin's HDD option? Any tips?
[03:39] <Karen_m> know how there is HWMonitor, is there something of the sort in ubuntu?
[03:39] <Taev> so sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[03:39] <antonio_> tecna: you're probably gonna have to run me threw some stuff
[03:39] <Karen_m> i want to monitor my laptop heat/temp
[03:39] <antonio_> the livecd is almost up.  Once its up to the desktop, do I have to mount my failing hd?
[03:39] <ZykoticK9> Karen_m, add to panel / hardware monitor is one method
[03:39] <hunahpu> Taev: first "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop" with that you'll stop it, then change stop for start to start it again....
[03:39] <Taev> its not running
[03:39] <Taev> to beging with
[03:39] <Taev> butok
[03:40] <FabParma> Karen_m: probably you have already the tool installed
[03:40] <Barnabas> taev its with ck
[03:40] <Taev>  * Starting web server apache2                                                  apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mod_python.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so into server: libpython2.5.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:40] <FabParma> Karen_m: try to type in a console   sensors
[03:40] <Tecna> antonio_: it works like any other ubuntu installation.  plug in your external.  the old drive should be listed in your places menu.  You should be able to click it to automatically mount and open it
[03:41] <Barnabas> taev you do not have the python plugin for apache installed
[03:41] <Taev> yes i do
[03:41] <Taev> libapache2-mod-python
[03:41] <Taev> i just reinstalled it
[03:41] <Barnabas> taev then the path is wrong
[03:41] <Taev> LoadModule python_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:41] <Taev> and its there
[03:41] <Taev> in /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:41] <Barnabas> Taev, and can the apache user read it?
[03:42] <Barnabas> ?
[03:42] <Taev> what do you mean?
[03:42] <Taev> the permissions?
[03:42] <Barnabas> Taev, file permissions
[03:42] <Barnabas> yeah
[03:42] <Barnabas> or ownership
[03:42] <hunahpu> Taev: do you have "mod_python.load" file in mods-enabled?
[03:42] <Barnabas> depending on level of paranoia
[03:43] <Taev> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123088 2008-03-22 18:27 mod_python.so
[03:43] <Taev> yes hunahpu
[03:43] <Taev> and in "mods-available"
[03:43] <antonio_> god I really hope this works...
[03:43] <Taev> they both point to /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:43] <Wiesshund> sosaited you still having problems?
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> Taev, i'm not sure, but should that mod_python.so be executable perhaps?
[03:44] <FabParma> Karen_m: does work sensors?
[03:44] <Taev> none of the other modules are
[03:44] <antonio_> damn
[03:44] <Barnabas> ZykoticK9, I dont think so
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> Barnabas, ok
[03:44] <Taev> mod_python.so has the same permissions as every other module
[03:44] <Barnabas> to be read by apache deamon
[03:44] <antonio_> after like half a minute of copying...I can hear the failing drive...making some not so nice noises...what should I do tecna:???
[03:44] <Tecna> antonio_: what type of filesystem is it?
[03:45] <Taev> and both files in mods-available, and mods-used points to /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:45] <antonio_> eft4 I think
[03:45] <Tecna> antonio_: stop the copying for now
[03:45] <Taev> so whats the problem?
[03:45] <Galaxor> Hi.  I'm trying to play videos from dvd or file.  I get a black box where the video should be.  I get audio though.  I've got nvidia with proprietary drivers, using 10.04.  Anybody know anything about that?
[03:45] <antonio_> ok
[03:45] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Yes.
[03:45] <Wiesshund> antonio_ is the drive clicking? if so shut it off, unplug it for now
[03:45] <Galaxor> Are there common fixes for black-box-instead-of-video, or is this likely to be a bug in the nvidia driver?
[03:45] <Wiesshund> sosaited can you tell us exactly what youve done so far in the unetbootin install?
[03:46] <IdleOne> antonio_: some people have had success with putting the drive in the fridge for 10-15 minutes and then backing up files.
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, try another player VLC/Mplayer - try changing the Video Out VO to either GL or X11 and see if it works.
[03:46] <SimonSayez> Galaxor, Do you have a media player such as VLC installed ?
[03:46] <Barnabas> antonio_, Again I cannot stress the most imporant thing to do when a drive fails - get the data of the drive and put it somewhere else
[03:46] <Barnabas> before any fixes are attempted
[03:46] <xangua> Galaxor: what driver¿¿ the free, propietary¿
[03:46] <Arthur___> can anybody tell me how to get the volume control back on the task bar?
[03:46] <Tecna> antonio_: it sounds like your disk is physically damaged.  if those files are important, you should consider taking it to a specialist.
[03:46] <Wiesshund> antonio_ how important is this data? if the drive has physical damage or failure you may have to ship it out to a place like ontrak
[03:46] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9, SimonSayez: Yeah, this isn't a totem issue.  I've used vlc also.
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> Arthur___, add to panel / indicator applet
[03:47] <IdleOne> Arthur___: right click the panel and add Indicator Applet
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, change the VO in the player
[03:47] <Galaxor> xangua:  nvidia 195.36.24 x86-64
[03:47] <Arthur___> ty
[03:47] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  In VLC?
[03:47] <FabParma> can you read this text?
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, i think it's an option in VLC ya.
[03:47] <IdleOne> I can FabParma
[03:47] <Wiesshund> antonio_ the only way to recover files from a physical failure it to take apart the drive and mount the platters in a special machine that can read and recover them and you cant do that at home :(
[03:47] <Tecna> Wiesshund: hivemind
[03:48] <FabParma> thankx
[03:48] <Arthur___> works ty!
[03:48] <sosaited> Wiesshund: I first tried to write the ISO to HDD (root), restarted, the ubuntu screen came and everything, and after a while I got "Unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem" (or it was unable to mount).
[03:48] <Wiesshund> Tecna hmm?
[03:48] <SimonSayez> Wiesshund, lol too much work hahah
[03:48] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  Hm.  I'm not sure what a VO is.  Where should I be looking for this?
[03:48] <antonio_> this is such bs!
[03:48] <Wiesshund> sosaited you did the frugal install or something else?
[03:48] <Taev> what package has libpython2.5.so.1.0
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, sorry VO = Video Output - you need to try changing it from the default XV to GL or X11
[03:48] <SimonSayez> I think VLC is the most advanced media player for Linux right now
[03:49] <Tecna> Wiesshund: we gave antonio_ the same answer at the same time
[03:49] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, mplayer
[03:49] <Wiesshund> Tecna doh brain fart moment
[03:49] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Frugal install? You mean I selected the HDD?
[03:49] <antonio_> tecna: or anyone else, would I come across the same problem if I tried to send the files across a network?
[03:50] <jrib> Taev: probably none if you're on lucid since there is no python 2.5 afaict
[03:51] <Tecna> antonio_: probably.  the proplem seems to be the drive, so i wouldn't expect it to work for any destination.
[03:51] <Taev> Im on 8.04
[03:51] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Yes I did the frugal install.
[03:51] <Taev> and there should be  because my apache has worked fine for years
[03:51] <Wiesshund> sosaited ok. you still have access to windows then yes?
[03:51] <Taev> until stupid ass clamav
[03:51] <antonio_> these files are all of my emails from thunderbird...I'm wondering if there is a kind of plugin for firefox to output all of this stuff to another drive?
[03:52] <jrib> Taev: 8.04 isn't lucid.  Anyway, why don't you tell us the real issue?
[03:52] <Wiesshund> antonio_ if you keep spinnign the drive your going to damage it and make recovery expensive or impossible
[03:52] <sosaited> Wiesshund: I did it on Karmic btw. But yes I have access to windows AND karmic
[03:52] <Taev> apache won't start
[03:52] <jrib> Taev: what do you think I'm going to ask you next?
[03:52] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  All right.  It works when I set it to OpenGL.  Previously, it was on "Default".  Is there some way to make this the default?
[03:52] <Tecna> if you're willing to risk ruining the disk before finishing, you can just try copying in small chunks, but if the data is important, take it to a recovery specialist.
[03:52] <Taev> apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mod_python.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so into server: libpython2.5.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:52] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  System-wide?
[03:52] <Wiesshund> sosaited i take it your trying to install 10.04 also?
[03:52] <dstanek> any reason why trayer isn't available in karmic?
[03:52] <Taev> and now its running
[03:52] <Taev> i reinstalled python2.5
[03:53] <sosaited> Wiesshund: As I mentioned, I am trying to install 10.04 from Karmic, on a dual-boot system with Karmic + xp
[03:53] <z987k> anyone know of a ppa I can add to get the 2.6.35 kernel in lucid?
[03:53] <Taev> would some one please double check for me
[03:53] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, nope, i don't think it's possible to change in the default gstreamer based apps either :(
[03:53] <Taev> does http://provo.homelinux.net load?
[03:53] <jrib> !enter | Taev
[03:53] <SimonSayez> ZykoticK9, Right mplayer is the most advanced at this time
[03:54] <iflema> dstanek alltray is similar
[03:54] <jrib> !away > radar3d|Zzz
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, sorry i shouldn't have said anything - it's a vi vs. emacs type argument ;)
[03:54] <Wiesshund> sosaited try running unet in windows, sometimes people have more luck with booting the virtual fs from win than nix
[03:54] <ruhtranayr> i broke my xorg.conf and can no longer get my TV back to 1360x768
[03:54] <antonio_> wiesshund: the hd was getting pretty hot..I was already having a problem with cooling, so I placed a fan under it..helped a little bit in the past few weeks...I might try keeping another fan on it...to keep it even cooler
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, what ever works for YOU is best ;)
[03:54] <jrib> Taev: no it doesn't load.
[03:55] <Taev> hmmm
[03:55] <Wiesshund> antonio_ you are going to ruin it and not see your data again, how important is this data to you?
[03:55] <Taev> its loading for me
[03:55] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Ok. ANd one more thing. During the install, when it asks for where to install bootloader, should I leave it to "sda" or change it to my current grub/ubuntu partition?
[03:55] <Tecna> "Failed to retrieve share list from server" Somebody please help me figure out what's wrong with my samba server?   CLI output: http://pastebin.com/j3n4niis
[03:55] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  Hm.  I can't even find this setting in totem at all.
[03:55] <antonio_> not super super important...but I would like to have stuff backed up
[03:55] <jrib> Taev: now it is...
[03:55] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, it isn't there!
[03:55] <Taev> strange now my wiki isn't working
[03:55] <Taev> grrrrr @ clam av
[03:55] <dstanek> iflema: thanks i'll check it out
[03:55] <Wiesshund> sosaited sda is where grub should always be. not that good to put grub in places like sdc1 etc
[03:56] <ruhtranayr> my tv is connected to my geforce 7100gs through vga...nvidia-settings will only show 640x480 and 320x300
[03:56] <dstanek> ratpoison isn't the same without it
[03:56] <linuxmascot> hello
[03:56] <antonio_> I've got 1.2 gigs of the 3 gigs already backed up...and I want to get the rest of it :(
[03:56] <ruhtranayr> ive reinstalled nvidia driver a few times, ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:56] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Is there any way I can confirm this? THough I am kinda sure it is already on sda and no sda5 (my linux partition).
[03:57] <Wiesshund> antonio_ well i can tell you with out a doubt if the drive is making noises and you keep running it, it is going to flat out die
[03:57] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, many of the media apps ubuntu uses will have this issue i'm affraid
[03:57] <Wiesshund> sosaited there is but at the moment my brain fails me in remembering exactly how to look
[03:57] <z987k> anyone know of a ppa I can add to get the 2.6.35 kernel in lucid?
[03:58] <linuxmascot> I'm seeking some help. It deals with upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04, when ever one of you has a spare minute, It'd be appreciated.
[03:58] <Tecna> antonio_: if you're not willing to pay a specialist to recover the data, and it's not vital data, just copy in small chunks, shutting down after a minute of two to let it cool.  The drive will self-destruct if you keep using it, so if you do use it, only use it to very carefully back up the data
[03:58] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Ok, never mind. Thanks. I'll give windows a try, otherwise I'll try booting the ISO directly again and see if I can somehow fix the "can't unmount /iso...." problem
[03:58] <Wiesshund> antonio_ its your drive, but you seemed like you wanted to have a chance at recovering whats on it
[03:58] <iflema> dstanek ALSO trayer is available in Lucid Lynx 10.04
[03:58] <hunahpu> z987k: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[03:58] <tesuji> what has to be done so that a running program does show up in the process list?
[03:59] <linuxmascot> ﻿I'm seeking some help. It deals with upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04, when ever one of you has a spare minute, It'd be appreciated.
[03:59] <z987k> hunahpu,  won't that break a ton of kernel modules and such?
[03:59] <SimonSayez> that is why you should always have USB external backup hardrive
[03:59] <Galaxor> ZykotiK9: Aha.  I used the program gstreamer-properties and set the default output plugin to "X Window System (no XV)"
[03:59] <antonio_> wiseshund: someone told me that if I put the hd in a plastic bag, toss it in the freezer..wait 5 hours....pull it out and toss it into a volcanoe on the next island over and pray to the gods that it will magically repair it...will this work or is this just bs? ;)
[03:59] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, thanks!  awesome!
[03:59] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  No, thank YOU.
[03:59] <Wiesshund> antonio_ if you dont care too much about the drive. take it out of the pc case, put it in a water tight bag, and sit it in ice water, and pray the cables are long enough to reach
[03:59] <linuxmascot> ﻿I'm seeking some help. It deals with upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04, when ever one of you has a spare minute, It'd be appreciated.
[03:59] <hunahpu> z987k: if you want a 100% safe option, use the regular kernels only; the ones there a re RC versions so are not 100% safe
[04:00] <SimonSayez> hard drives die out all the time for no apparent reason
[04:00] <Galaxor> And now, I shall commence with my main objective:  Watching Batman: The Animated Series on DVD.
[04:00] <SimonSayez> I had a brand new SSD hard drive die out me
[04:00] <Tecna> Wiesshund: that's a terrible idea
[04:00] <z987k> hunahpu,  well, for instance, I already got those images, but the nvidia kernel module failed to load on reboot
[04:00] <antonio_> wisehund: haha, I think I'll just try blowing on it :D
[04:00] <linuxmascot> ﻿I'm seeking some help. It deals with upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04, when ever one of you has a spare minute, It'd be appreciated.
[04:01] <Tecna> linuxmascot: what's the problem
[04:01] <hunahpu> z987k: yes you will need to rebuild nvidia modules, I use ATI but there should be documentation on how to do it in the nvidia site or ubuntu wiki (community docs)
[04:01] <linuxmascot> Thank you
[04:01] <Wiesshund> hard drives are mechanicaly devices, they have wear points and moving parts. starting and stopping them is actualy hard on them. and the little head servoes do wear out over time, plus heat takes a toll on the electronics
[04:01] <z987k> hunahpu, just the nvidia or every kernel module?
[04:02] <linuxmascot> Well, i've tried to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 10.04 two times, each time the update freezez when it gets to installing the 10.04 dbus. So 75% through the update it freezes, and I have to completely re-format my computer back to 8.04 because on restart it tries to boot 10.04, which didn't fully install.
[04:02] <hunahpu> z987k: just the nvidia would be my guess... but the real answer is "every module you need and you don't already have/isn't working" but it's.. well a pretty obvious answer :p try it, always keep a back up kernel though
[04:03] <Wiesshund> linuxmascot how old is the pc? 10.04 may not be the choice for some older hardware
[04:03] <linuxmascot> I upgraded through the terminal with the update command ' update-manager- d'
[04:03] <linuxmascot> it's not THAT old.
[04:03] <linuxmascot> I'm running a 2.6ghz, 1gb ram, 32 bit graphics card computer.
[04:03] <Tecna> linuxmascot: if you're completely reformatting, why not just make a 10.04 cd and install with that instead of upgrading?
[04:03] <linuxmascot> acer extensa 4220
[04:03] <Wiesshund> linuxmascot well 8.X is pretty old :) is why i asked
[04:03] <linuxmascot> Well, I don't have any blank cd's, and my two flash drives are gone. I was hoping to get it resolved tonight.
[04:04] <ZykoticK9> wouldn't "update-manager -d" try installing 10.10?  re: linuxmascot
[04:04] <rww> ZykoticK9: not if you're not already on 10.04
[04:04] <ZykoticK9> rww, they're on 8.04
[04:04] <Wiesshund> linuxmascot what Tecna said, except you could use unetbooting since youve no media to use
[04:04] <rww> exactly
[04:04] <Dal> test123
[04:05] <ZykoticK9> rww, sorry though the -d was for development, my bad.
[04:05] <russ> hello, is there any way to get help with logging in to landscape with a (new) paid support contract?
[04:05] <Dal> cool. irc on my palm pre works :)
[04:05] <rww> ZykoticK9: it is, but as I understand it, it won't actually take effect unless you're using the current stable release (since update-manager respects supported upgrade paths)
[04:05] <linuxmascot> I've never net booted
[04:05] <Tecna> !ot | Dal
[04:06] <rww> I haven't tried it for myself, though, so maybe I'm wrong
[04:06] <jrib> russ: you should ask canonical, they can better help you
[04:06] <ZykoticK9> rww, ok thanks for the clarification (even if a little uncertain feeling)
[04:06] <russ> jnb is there any way to reach them? They don't answer their phone you know.
[04:07] <SimonSayez> everything is done over the internet nowadays
[04:07] <SimonSayez> so phone ??
[04:07] <jrib> russ: shouldn't you have some way to contact them after paying for support?
[04:07] <linuxmascot> wiess: I've never net booted, how would I start that process.
[04:07] <Tecna> linuxmascot: I'd strongly advise getting a cd for a live disc.  if you can stand to wait until a store near you opens, that's your best option.
[04:08] <dstanek> iflema: is it safe it install that package on karmic?
[04:08] <pradeep> what the job opportunity for Linux like in your country
[04:08] <ZykoticK9> !ot > pradeep
[04:08] <iflema> dstanek alltray? It is in the karmic repositories, yes
[04:08] <russ> jnb You would sure think so. So far worse than worthless.
[04:08] <linuxmascot> Tecna: well that takes the fun out of computing, doesn't it? : p
[04:09] <linuxmascot> Tecna: I suppose I can wait
[04:09] <SimonSayez> pradeep, lol jobs in this economy ???
[04:09] <rww> russ: fyi, it's "jrib", not "jnb"
[04:09] <Wiesshund> linuxmascot you got room on your drive to download the 10.04 ISO?
[04:09] <jrib> russ: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact Try sales, maybe they can point you in the right direction?
[04:09] <linuxmascot> Wiess: yes
[04:09] <dstanek> iflema: no the trayer deb from lucid
[04:09] <Wiesshund> linuxmascot http://ansi.interblc.com/2010/02/06/howto-boot-iso-images-via-grub2-with-ubuntu/
[04:10] <iflema> dstanek it may go on???/
[04:10] <Wiesshund> linuxmascot you can give that a go. it would let you boot the liveCD from a location on the hard drive
[04:10] <russ> jrib sorry I these are new glasses too... I sent an email to canonical sales, hope they will answer soon
[04:10] <jrib> russ: anyway, I don't know anything about landscape, but that's what I would do.  Good luck (I'm off to bed)
[04:10] <Tecna> linuxmascot: if you can understand it, the link Wiesshund gave you is work trying, too
[04:10] <jrib> russ: there are a few numbers on that page too you can try
[04:10] <tindefacto> Hello
[04:11] <Tecna> linuxmascot: *worth
[04:11] <Tecna> !hello | tindefacto
[04:11] <linuxmascot> Tecna: I'm reading it, i'll see how well i do.
[04:11] <tindefacto> Does anyone here have a good knowledge of BitTorrent clients?
[04:11] <[IA]Zealot> Question: In 10.04 Server, how to I permanently disable screen blanking for all the ttys ?
[04:11] <linuxmascot> Wiess: it says they used 9.10
[04:11] <rww> ubottu: anyone | tindefacto
[04:11] <Tecna> tindefacto: I suggest azurus / vuze
[04:12] <ZykoticK9> [IA]Zealot, IF you don't get an answer here, try asking in #ubuntu-server.
[04:12] <[IA]Zealot> ZykoticK9: Oh snap, I'll check there too
[04:12] <tindefacto> Question: I have my computer split between Windows and Ubuntu. I have uTorrent on Windows and wish to bring the torrent over to Ubuntu to seed. Is there a way that it's possible?
[04:13] <tesuji> anybody understand /proc ?  what creates the entries?  something in the kernel?
[04:14] <shauno> tesuji: exactly
[04:14] <Interwebs> Hi, can someone help me out, I'm panicking.
[04:14] <rww> tindefacto: should be. Copy the torrent's contents over to the Ubuntu box, download the .torrent file, and point the torrent client to where the contents are. It'll check that they match the .torrent file and start seeding.
[04:14] <ZykoticK9> !ask | Interwebs
[04:14] <rww> tindefacto: pretty much any client -- including the one that ships with Ubuntu, Transmission -- can do that
[04:14] <tindefacto> Okay, thanks rww
[04:14] <Interwebs> My ethernet controller seems to have disappeared from lspci
[04:14] <Jeaton> is there a terminal base torrent app for linux?
[04:14] <tesuji> Shauno my system is hacked and i know there is stuff runig that doesn't show up in ps
[04:14] <outer_space> how can I read mail if theres no mail command in ubuntu or in apt-get?
[04:15] <shauno> Jeaton: a few, I think rtorrent is the most common
[04:15] <Interwebs> It was there last time I booted, and I was connected with it. Now its gone
[04:15] <zkriesse> outer_space: ah install a mail client
[04:15] <SimonSayez> testi, run the top command
[04:15] <zkriesse> outer_space: or use your web browser
[04:15] <rww> Jeaton: there are several. I use rtorrent. Deluge and Transmission both have command-line versions too, I think, and there's also bittornado and bittorrent.
[04:15] <Jordan_U> tesuji: Why do you think you have been hacked? That's very unlikely.
[04:15] <outer_space> i dont know how. its on a server that you ssh into
[04:15] <Jeaton> thanks rww
[04:16] <Wiesshund> tesuji its kind of hard for someone to do that unless you run alot of things as root
[04:16] <ZykoticK9> rww, Transmission support something with ext4 that reduces fragmentation dramatically when using torrents.  Jeaton
[04:16] <tesuji> Jordan_U, that is a saga, pls don't tell me what's going on, but if u will help me get info i'd appreciate
[04:16] <Tecna> tindefacto: mount your windows drive, start downloading the torrent, pause it, copy or symlink the previously downloaded files over the new files, then force a check in the torrent client.  it should detect that the files are completely downloaded then move them to the seeding list
[04:16] <Wiesshund> tesuji or you got a room mate who likes putting crap in your init, still top will show the processes running
[04:17] <tesuji> Wiesshund, it is a long story but if you will give ifo it would help
[04:17] <rww> ZykoticK9: I assume you mean pre-allocation, which is also a standard torrent client feature.
[04:17] <Interwebs> I guess what I'm saying, is does anyone have any idea how/why a device that worked previously could not only stop working but disappear from lspci
[04:17] <Wiesshund> tesuji run top, you will see every process running
[04:17] <shauno> tesuji: in /proc, you'll find a directory matching each running pid.  the file 'cmdline' within each of those will tell you what command corresponds to that pid
[04:18] <Wiesshund> Interwebs yes, device physicaly failed for some reason
[04:18] <SimonSayez> Wiesshund, I like running the top command
[04:18] <Jordan_U> tesuji: To get support you need to provide full information, as well as trust that your own diagnosis may not be correct.
[04:18] <hoosiers_83> still looking for a decent media player that supports mtp (sansa).  rhythmbox crashes when i adjust volume, don't like audacious or amarok, banshee's library watcher is broken.  anything else to try?
[04:18] <Interwebs> Wiesshund: I guess what I was asking is: does that indicate definitively a failure with the device, or could it be a problem with Ubuntu?
[04:19] <SteveThing> can anyone suggest a good linux book (distro neutral) for a novice linux user, but technically inclined person (network admin)? I'm also looking for a good book on ubuntu
[04:19] <Wiesshund> Interwebs on the level lspci looks, its most likely the device. many bios wil give an lspci 'like' output during boot as well showing the devices it saw
[04:20] <SimonSayez> SteveThing, Why distro neutral ?
[04:20] <Wiesshund> SteveThing linux for dummies (no offense meant)
[04:20] <SteveThing> i'm looking for something that will explain scripting on multiple levels of complexity with an in depth explanation
[04:20] <ZykoticK9> hoosiers_83, [I HATE to recommend this but] for music players i always liked Songbird (until they dropped linux support, so I dropped it - RIP Songbird)
[04:20] <SteveThing> SimonSayez, for basic linux reference
[04:21] <Interwebs> Wiesshund: also, lshw can't find it, but hwinfo makes some mention of it
[04:21] <SteveThing> Wiesshund, tried, it was too "Dummy" for me
[04:21] <xangua> !manual > SteveThing
[04:21] <ZykoticK9> hoosiers_83, you should report follow up on the rhythmbox volume issue/bug!
[04:21] <jru898> has anyone successfully gotten a logitech quickcam for notebooks running in 10.04?
[04:21] <jru898> If so could you direct me to how you did
[04:21] <SimonSayez> SteveThing, Its best to get a Linux specific book depending on what distro you will be working with
[04:21] <hoosiers_83> it's fixed in .13.  but that release doesn't remember my music library every time i start it.  so i have to sit there as thousands of songs get reloaded
[04:21] <ZykoticK9> jru898, does it not work in Cheese?
[04:22] <Wiesshund> jru898 what series/age ive gotten them to work in cheese but not other things like skype. but the ones i have are older
[04:22] <fishcooker> any pointer to linux based robot
[04:22] <fishcooker> ?
[04:22] <tindefacto> Okay, thanks for the help
[04:22] <hoosiers_83> i'll probably just stick with banshee, and have to manually update my libraries because the extension that supposed to do that, is broke
[04:23] <SimonSayez> SteveThing, This is a very good Ubuntu Linux book http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Ubuntu-Linux/dp/013236039X
[04:23] <shauno> tesuji: really, the most useful suggestion I could give you in that situation is to get the machine offline.  post-mortem if you're capable, reinstall (or *trusted* backup) if not.  If you think someone's got far enough to patch ps/libproc, there's really nothing you can trust to be done with the system running
[04:24] <fishcooker> any pointer to linux based robot...
[04:24] <SteveThing> SimonSayez, I was looking at that already... seems a bit outdated already :(
[04:24] <tindefacto> Question: I have a partitioned hard drive (Windows 7/Ubuntu) and would like to set up all my music onto rhythmbox. Is there a way that iTunes on the Windows side and Rhythmbox can share the same files>
[04:24] <Wiesshund> fishcooker er you mean like a serial port robot?
[04:24] <jru898> That's my question actually, it works in cheese, but nothing else
[04:24] <Wiesshund> tindefacto yes, use the win partition to store the music
[04:25] <xangua> jru898: nothing else like what¿¿
[04:25] <tindefacto> Wiesshund: Thanks. Will Rhythmvox try to change the ID3 tags so iTunes won't read it or will it work without hassle?
[04:25] <Wiesshund> tindefacto easier for linux to see music on a ntfs drive than windows to see an etx4
[04:25] <Kurogane> how i can check what app is using a port?
[04:25] <Wiesshund> tindefacto ive not noticed rhythmbox changing mine no
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> tindefacto, by default Rhythmbox doesn't write to ID3 tags - i WISH it did!
[04:26] <tindefacto> Wiesshund: Thank you very much!
[04:26] <Jeaton> rww - already installed it and without reading how to operate it, I already open it up and don't know how to exit
[04:26] <jru898> skype and flash based online alternatives
[04:27] <SteveThing> can KeePassX DB's be exported to other drives (i.e. thumb drives or CDs)? I can't figure out how
[04:27] <Wiesshund> jru898 yea i had the same issue, tried the webcam drivers from the repository and some 3rd party ones too. only thing it worked in was cheese
[04:28] <hermanlf> Yo anyone, what's the gui that lets you start/stop/restart system services from x?  I've used it before but I can't remember the name.
[04:28] <jru898> Also, when I do have image (in cheese) it's extremely dark, and I don't see the option to increase the exposure
[04:29] <Wiesshund> hermanlf system monitor?
[04:30] <hermanlf> hmm, nope, that's not it Wiesshund
[04:30] <Wiesshund> jru898 alot of the semi old chipset webcams dont adhere to the usb camera standard, and the makers dont put out any linux drivers to hack a work around
[04:30] <Jeaton> anyone familiar with setting up a local virtual host in apache2?
[04:30] <tntc> Hey, am I crazy for going from 64-bit ubuntu to 32-bit ubuntu with PAE?  I've had a few compatability issues with 64-bit
[04:30] <jru898> Well, that is quite lame
[04:31] <tntc> but I have yet to see a problem where a package was like "64-bit required"
[04:31]  * uRock wants to know who killed the ubuntuforums.org server.
[04:31] <miniuser> hello. i have been googleing, but i cannot find anything usefull ... what is ICE?
[04:31] <hermanlf> Wiesshund: the app I'm talking about lets you also start a system service that's not already running.
[04:31] <fishcooker> Wiesshund: linux kernel on robot processor arch
[04:32] <miniuser> whats a "ICE listening socket"?
[04:32] <Wiesshund> jru898 yea i know. they still sell webcams that dont adhere to the proper standards, they make drivers for windows to hack around that. saddly none for linux
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> hermanlf, i hope you get an answer... a non-"system monitor" answer... you just reposted.  System / Admin / Services was removed a few Ubuntu versions ago i believe.  i know of no replacements compatible with Upstart.  Good luck man.
[04:32] <shauno> tntc: very little will actually require 64bit unless it's handling *very* large chunks of data.  if you find 32bit more comfortable, it's your computer and it should work /for/ you.  Go for it.
[04:32] <sharris> I still havent resolved my freezing issue, but i did find where somebody posted the same thing on the forum http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1527147
[04:33] <hermanlf> Ah np.  I'll just use the cli to start it.  I was thinking of the service manager in fedora *DOH*.  I've been on fedora for too long.
[04:33] <jru898> Note to self, do your research before buying your next webcam
[04:33] <uRock> yup
[04:34] <matrix> hello
[04:34] <Wiesshund> hermanlf there may be a services manager for ubuntu you might look in the repository
[04:34] <uRock> !hi > matrix
[04:34] <hermanlf> jru898: true that.  If it doesn't work with linux, it's not a webcam :)
[04:34] <Wiesshund> hermanlf im sure such a thing does exist for ubuntu
[04:34] <kancerman> jru898: exactly what I did before completely switching to Ubuntu ;)
[04:34] <hermanlf> k, I'll take a peek
[04:34] <hermanlf> thanks Wiesshund.
[04:34] <tntc> shauno: well, I'm a coder.  I'm honestly finding a lot of stuff like python is 32-bit anyhow.  PAE means I can access more than 4gb, but I can't have a single application access more than 4gb still, correct?
[04:35] <tntc> well, the python modules I need are 32-bit. I know there is 64-bit python
[04:35] <shauno> tntc: spot on.  the OS can see the whole chunk, but a single process can't allocate it all
[04:35] <Wiesshund> jru898 not that its any consolation, but the quickcams they sell now are STILL using a very old chip
[04:35] <jru898> Update! I got it working with flash based alternatives
[04:36] <shauno> tntc: only really an issue if you want vmware to give more than 4Gb to a guest, or similar.   Very few normal cases where one process will need a >4Gb alloc
[04:36] <jru898> I had to run qcset /dev/video0 compat=dblbuf
[04:36] <jru898> All that did was enable double buffering
[04:36] <jru898> But that made the computer recognize it as a webcam
[04:37] <jru898> Still no skype support
[04:37] <Wiesshund> heh
[04:37] <tntc> shauno: I run VMs, but I doubt I'm going to give any VM 4gb when I have 8gb total, so that works for me :)
[04:37] <jru898> But it's progress
[04:37] <Wiesshund> jru no skype will probably crash when you enable it
[04:37] <hermanlf> yeah, skype for linux bites
[04:37] <Wiesshund> jru898 try opening cheese to tickle the cam on, then have skype try to use it
[04:38] <Wiesshund> jru898 you might try looking for this driver but no promises qc-usb-0.6.6
[04:38] <jru898> I already have that one
[04:38] <jru898> It wasn't working until I enable the double buffering
[04:38] <Wiesshund> jru898 ah, ok
[04:39] <jru898> And skype doesn't even recognize it exists
[04:39] <jru898> But I'm fine with the flash programs
[04:39] <jru898> And I'll mess around with it until I find a workaroudn
[04:39] <jru898> workaround*
[04:39] <Wiesshund> jru898 oh it will if you open cheese 1st hehe, then skype will kill itself LOL
[04:39] <roaddhogg> will installing ubuntu delete windows
[04:39] <tesuji> roaddhogg, no
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> roaddhogg, it can if done improperly!  Proceed with caution!
[04:40] <Wiesshund> roaddhogg no, not unless you go and delete the windows partition
[04:40] <jru898> @Roadhogg back important stuff up first just in case
[04:41] <tntc> roaddhogg: or just use WUBI
[04:41] <roaddhogg> id rather not use wubi
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> roaddhogg, avoid WUBI if possible!
[04:41] <Snandy> I am trying to run Ubuntu 10.04 off of Live CD to recover files from my hard drive. The screen is all "fuzzy" and shaky. How do I either add graphic drivers are set it to 1680X1024 resolution?
[04:42] <tntc> reuteras: Personally, I just backed up windows, installed Ubuntu on the whole drive, and installed Windows in VMWare Workstation.
[04:42] <tntc> roaddhogg: ^ not reuteras, sorry.
[04:42] <JulieJulie> Hey guys, I don't have a usb stick that is over 2gb right now at home but I do have a blank external drive.  How can I install ubuntu using my external hard drive to my netbook?
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> Snandy, if you have a partial working screen i'd just recover the files - trying to get proper working drivers in LiveCD might be a lot more trouble then it's worth.  good luck though :)
[04:43] <shauno> JulieJulie: I haven't tried it (for linux atleast), but there should be no difference in the process.  they essentially appear as the same thing to the system (usb-massstorage, just one wildly bigger than the other)
[04:43] <tntc> JulieJulie: how big is your usb stick? I don't think you need a full 2gb for the install.
[04:43] <JulieJulie> well it is igb
[04:43] <Snandy> ZykoticK9: Hmmm good point. Do you think it will harm the monitor at all?
[04:43] <JulieJulie> tntc,  it is 1gb and the site says it needs more
[04:44] <JulieJulie> tntc,  I believe the image is only 700?
[04:44] <ZykoticK9> Snandy, doubt it - it's being under used
[04:44] <JulieJulie> Shauno, I was thinking the same thing
[04:44] <JulieJulie> Shauno, but I didnt try it cause I feel like it is so specfic
[04:45] <tntc> JulieJulie: 1gb should be enough. give it a shot.
[04:45] <Jeaton> anyone here really familiar with apache and virtual hosts?
[04:45] <Wiesshund> JulieJulie you can use unetbootin and not need any drive
[04:46] <mariano_> Hi, do you guys have an idea of why Lubuntu is not saving my display settings?
[04:46] <Snandy> Anyone here run WoW (or other games) off of Ubuntu. The plan was to recover my files and put Win7 on and replace vista. But honestly, I would love to switch to Ubuntu if I can get it to play my PC games, run Office 2007/2010 (I have to for school) and run Outlook. How doable are all of these things?
[04:46] <tntc> JulieJulie: my flash drive is only using 701M
[04:46] <ZykoticK9> Jeaton, only "basically", but i believe vhosts is on by default on ubuntu - and you have to have settings in some hosts-available and hosts-active or something.... good luck man.
[04:46] <Wiesshund> Snandy i run WOW
[04:47] <JulieJulie> Wiesshund, what is unetbooting?
[04:47] <Wiesshund> Snandy and you dont need office, linux has open office and star office (think you have to buy star office now though)
[04:47] <Snandy> Wiesshund: With running PC games (I assume WineX? DUnno, I havent used unix since 1994), do you ever feel the need to dual boot a form of windows?
[04:47] <Wiesshund> JulieJulie http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/unetbootin/wiki/installmodes
[04:48] <JulieJulie> tntc,  lol now it is the trouble of finding it too haha
[04:48] <Wiesshund> Snandy i dont need to dual boot unless i want to run some older not very well programmed game
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> mariano_, reask same question in #lubuntu as well ;)  good luck - lubuntu is kinda neat, i tried it in a VM for the 1st time the other day.
[04:48] <tntc> JulieJulie: HA! I know that feeling.
[04:48] <JulieJulie> tntc, lol welcome to my life!
[04:48] <welinux> !ping
[04:48] <tntc> JulieJulie: unetbootin would let you install to the external, but I think you'd have to wipe the drive.
[04:48] <SimonSayez> sleep() is a beautiful thing
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> mariano_, are you using nvidia?
[04:49] <Wiesshund> tntc no
[04:49] <Snandy> If moving from Outlook 2007 to Evolution, will I miss any key features much?
[04:49] <Wiesshund> Snandy nah i dont think so.
[04:49] <albertl> hey guys, which app do you recommend me to virtualize windows and/or macos on ubuntu. I'm a newbie at this. thanks in advance
[04:49] <SimonSayez> stasis()
[04:49] <tntc> Wiesshund: if it's an external HD, it's probably NTFS.  Does unetbootin work with NTFS?
[04:49] <mariano_> Yeah... It made a junk P3 PC run much faster for internet browsing than few other PCs here...
[04:49] <Wiesshund> tntc unetbootin doesnt wipe your drive at all
[04:50] <mariano_> nop, not nvidia
[04:50] <Snandy> Wiesshund: Ok thanks for the answers!
[04:50] <Wiesshund> tntc yea you run the win32 unetbooting and it works like a mini wubu livecd
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> mariano_, ummm, try in #lubuntu then :)  good luck.
[04:50] <mariano_> is a very old graphics cars.. hmmmm... I think is Savage
[04:50] <Wiesshund> Snandy you can always keep windows for a while until your sure
[04:51] <JulieJulie> Wiesshund,  lol unetbooting looks a bit complicated
[04:51] <Wiesshund> JulieJulie nope not really
[04:51] <Snandy> Shoooot  Live CD isn't seeing my SATA raid hard drives, where I had hoped to move the files to
[04:51] <mariano_> Oh you know you're right!! It is NVidia
[04:51] <mariano_> Sorry, I got confuse with the older one
[04:51] <Snandy> Vista is FUBARed, I am reinstalling something tonight, I don't care what it is as long as it isn't Vista
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> mariano_, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[04:52] <antonio_> exit
[04:52] <antonio_> haha..whoops
[04:52] <Snandy> I'd darn ear put WinME on before Vista now
[04:52] <Wiesshund> Snandy google grub and sata raid, there might be something you need to do at boot to see the raid
[04:52] <Snandy> Which will work via live cd?
[04:53] <Wiesshund> Snandy also did you create the raid in the windows management console? or other?
[04:53] <abhijit> hello
[04:53] <Snandy> The raid is through the motherboard
[04:53] <Wiesshund> Snandy any grub method will work fromthe liveCD youd hold shift at boot to get the grub menu
[04:53] <roaddhogg> so if i install ubuntu via boot cd, what do i do to make sure it won't do anything to W7?
[04:53] <Snandy> Thanks
[04:54] <xangua> roaddhogg: create a diferent partition for ubuntu
[04:54] <Wiesshund> Snandy i undertand the MB part but theres a windows method of making the raid, which unfortunately only windows can see
[04:54] <welinux> roaddhogg: believe Ubuntu
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> roaddhogg, choose the install option to install "along side windows" - i think it's the default but be sure, it's the partitioning section of the install that's important to you right now.
[04:55] <Wiesshund> Snandy you would have dont that in the management console under storage, by modifying the partitions. most people dont do that but a few do
[04:55] <Wiesshund> er dont = done
[04:56] <Wiesshund> ZykoticK9 yea thats the default. personaly i like the eat windows option but hehehe
[04:56] <Wiesshund> Snandy silly question but why you running raid on what sounds like a normal desktop/game pc?
[04:57] <Strife89> A friend of mine was browsing YouTube when he encountered the error message in the screenshot. Firefox crashed badly and currently cannot be killed (might just be slow about that, though). Any interpretations? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1905158/Screenshot%20%282%29.png
[04:57] <Snandy> I will say one thing, so far the Live CD rocks. In 10 seconds I was able to start doing something
[04:57] <Wiesshund> Strife89 kill its pid in top, bet it dies quick
[04:58] <Strife89> Fair enough, but we're still wondering what the error message could mean.
[04:58] <ZykoticK9> Strife89, perhaps the mozilla support channel might have insights into that specific error message?!?
[04:59] <Strife89> I highly doubt it.
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> Strife89, you could try searching LaunchPad?
[04:59] <Strife89> All I'm after right now are educated guesses.
[04:59] <Wiesshund> Snandy if you decide to trash windows, rather than a raid youd maybe like to have the extra drive space. ive never got much advantage out of a raid array if i wasnt doing a ton of sequential file accesses
[04:59] <Strife89> There is no way, as far as I'm aware, that this exact error is in any database.
[05:00] <Wiesshund> Strife89 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/558858
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> Strife89, perhaps true, but you need someone familiar enough with the code to actually get some useful info out of this error....
[05:01] <Snandy> can I just install ubuntu unto this winVista partition and just use it, and once I get in delete all the winows crap I dont need?
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> Wiesshund, nice!
[05:01] <Strife89> Wiesshund: I stand corrected.
[05:01] <xangua> unto¿¿
[05:01] <Wiesshund> Snandy no cause the win partition is NTFS file system and Linux uses ETX
[05:02] <Snandy> Thanks
[05:02] <Wiesshund> Strife89 ive no idea what caused it, but atleast your not alone
[05:02] <FreshPrince> does anybody knows a nice tutorial to set up accounts in thunderbird?, the new thunderbird is too complicated to create 2 accounts, didnt work and all the messages goes to 1 folder instead of to different etc. need help :)
[05:02] <Strife89> Wiesshund: Good to know, at least. :)
[05:03] <Strife89> Wiesshund: My friend was worried that he might have a malware issue.
[05:03] <Strife89> Hence the mindset, etc.
[05:05] <Strife89> Wiesshund: Anyway, thanks for the find. :)
[05:05] <abhijit> FreshPrince, try in #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[05:06] <shugart> hey guys, any good suggestions for a socks5 proxy server (other than just doing the ssh -D) ?
[05:06] <FreshPrince> abhijeet, thx
[05:06] <Strife89> Searchable text: http://pastebin.com/L2QF2xvP
[05:06] <abhijit> :|
[05:07] <Andre_Gondim> is it possible to use ubuntu one in Ubuntu Server?
[05:07] <trongthanh> how to download package to a safe place (for future reinstallation)
[05:07] <abhijit> Andre_Gondim, ask in #ubuntuone
[05:07] <ZykoticK9> Andre_Gondim, you might want to ask in #ubuntuone
[05:07] <Andre_Gondim> thanks
[05:08] <abhijit> !repository | trongthanh
[05:08] <abhijit> !offline | trongthanh
[05:09] <trongthanh> thanks
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> trongthanh, the old school way might be to backup the /var/cache/apt/archive folder... another option.
[05:09] <Guardian> Hola
[05:09] <Guardian> #biblioteca
[05:10] <xangua> Guardian: looking for ubuntu help¿
[05:10] <abhijit> !aptoncd > trongthanh
[05:11] <ZykoticK9> xangua, not sure if you'll know the answer - but why is your "?" upside down?
[05:11] <xangua> ZykoticK9: latinamerican keyboard
[05:12] <ZykoticK9> xangua, thanks - i don't remember noticing it before...
[05:12] <sharris> what is the command to post my error msgs to pastebin?
[05:12] <abhijit> sharris, pastebinit
[05:12] <ZykoticK9> !pastebinit
[05:12] <Wiesshund> !pastebin | sharris
[05:12] <abhijit> :)
[05:12] <Jinxzs> how to use pastebin
[05:13] <sharris> but whats the command to view the error logs?
[05:14] <mariano__> Sorry, what was the lspc command again? (Lubuntu PC not saving Display Settings)
[05:14] <abhijit> Jinxzs, go to paste.ubuntu.com give title paste content click on next or continue button and you will be on next page and then copy paste the address of that next page from address bar of your browser to here
[05:14] <ZykoticK9> mariano__, for graphics card?  "lspci | grep -i vga"
[05:14] <mariano__> thanks again
[05:14] <Jinxzs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/473377/
[05:15] <abhijit> Jinxzs, but where is your question? ;) :P
[05:15] <Jinxzs> i dont have yet. im just reading and observing. now i know how to use pastebin
[05:15] <abhijit> Jinxzs, good. :)
[05:15] <[thor]> Jinxzs: the pastebinit command is a little more convenient
[05:15] <root> hi all
[05:16] <Jinxzs> can you whisper it to me thor how to do it? ^_^
[05:16] <Jeaton> i deleted the /etc/apache2 directory, thinking it would reinstall it when I sudo apt-get install apache2
[05:16] <Jeaton> but it doesn't, any idea how I can recover this?
[05:16] <abhijit> Jinxzs, if you need to paste output of some command then you can do = uname -a | pastebinit then wait some sec and it will give you address
[05:16] <mariano__> It's not showing any PCI graphics.. Should it list graphics there if it's onboard? Which I think is
[05:17] <mariano__> (Is not)
[05:17] <abhijit> Jinxzs, try with some another command
[05:17] <sharris> Ive been having an issue with my new ubuntu studio installation on an Alienware Area 51m laptop, it freezes randomly on the desktop, sometimes its only the keyboard and mouse thats frozen because i can hit the power button and the shutdown menu pops up usually, any way to fix this?
[05:17] <shzlnzl> does ubuntu 10.04 cd come with a partition tool?
[05:18] <abhijit> shzlnzl, offcourse!
[05:18] <shzlnzl> thanks
[05:18] <abhijit> !gparted | shzlnzl
[05:18] <abhijit> Jinxzs, if that program is not installed then install it by doing sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:18] <mariano__> I'll find out the Graphics Card info first then... Thanks
[05:19] <abhijit> brb
[05:21] <sharris> can anybody help me with this issue?
[05:22] <ubuntu_> hai....
[05:22] <ubuntu_> join euy....
[05:23] <ubuntu_> awon
[05:23] <Guardian> Hola
[05:24] <Guardian> Alguien ke habke español?
[05:24] <Guest15912> hola una pregunta
[05:24] <Guest15912> como
[05:24] <Oer> !es | Guardian
[05:25] <Guardian>  /join #ubuntu-es
[05:26] <Guest15912> hola
[05:26] <Guest15912> como cambio mi nikc
[05:26] <arquebus> !es
[05:26] <Guardian> Ubottu, algo salio mal, sigo en Esta sala...
[05:27] <Guardian> Ubottu eres muy convicente jejeje
[05:27] <tucemiux> !ot | Guardian
[05:28] <sharris> can somebody please help me?
[05:28] <tucemiux> !somebody | sharky
[05:28] <tucemiux> !somebody | sharris
[05:28] <trongthanh> how to download updates to an offline location (for future reinstallation)
[05:29] <sharris> because i tried asking my question... several times.... and NO help, so i thought i just say "can somebody please help?" :P
[05:29] <xangua> Guardian: "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y sin espacios
[05:30] <rezolute> repeat your question at normal (non irritating) intervals.
[05:30] <rezolute> every 2 hours or so
[05:30] <rezolute> even every hour if its busy
[05:31] <Fudge> !ipod
[05:32] <xae8koo> Hello
[05:32] <zkriesse> Hello xae8koo
[05:32] <sharris> im having an issue with a new ubuntu install and the keyboard and mousepad randomly stopping, i finally bought a usb mouse and keyboard to try that and now the usb mouse stopped and the pad works again... but i tried to type something with the usb keyboard and its repeating the first letter i hit...and caps lock and stuff doesnt work at all as if the driver is frozen or something
[05:32] <tucemiux> trongthanh,  can you download the updates using an ubuntu machine?
[05:32] <xae8koo> I want to manage several computers inside a NAT. Is there a way, if I buy a VPS, that they connect to the VPS, and somehow allows me to connect from there?
[05:33] <trongthanh> yes I can
[05:33] <shauno> xae8koo: you could setup a vpn between them, allowing you to treat them like they're all on the same network
[05:33] <tucemiux> sharris, i just logged in and didnt see your question, you can repeat again -- all in one line -- if I have an answer I will surely reply !
[05:34] <Jinxzs> !
[05:34] <sharris> im having an issue with a new ubuntu install and the keyboard and mousepad randomly stopping, i finally bought a usb mouse and keyboard to try that and now the usb mouse stopped and the pad works again... but i tried to type something with the usb keyboard and its repeating the first letter i hit...and caps lock and stuff doesnt work at all as if the driver is frozen or something
[05:34] <shauno> xae8koo: (eg, 10.0.1.1 is the vps, .2 is another machine behind the nat, etc).   solves the issue of nat traversal, after that it's just like managing them across a lan
[05:34] <trongthanh> tucemiux, I'm about to download them, I just think about maybe download to another location
[05:34] <xae8koo> shauno: That seams sensible
[05:35] <tucemiux> trongthanh, this guide will show you how to do that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Synaptic/PackageDownloadScript
[05:35] <tucemiux> sharris, what type of machine do you have? manufacturer and model, sounds like your machine either doesnt like linux or you have hardware errors
[05:35] <trongthanh> ok I'll try
[05:35] <shauno> xae8koo: I'd set the vps as the server, have the nat'd machines connect outbound to it.  and then pay attention to 'push route' options in the config files.  you don't want to do that, else they'll tunnel all outbound traffic via the vps, and your bill will not be pretty.    of course, I'm sure there's more than one way to do it
[05:36] <sharris> Alienware Area 51m Laptop
[05:37] <sharris> ok, both keyboards dont work and neither the mouse or the pad works... i thought it was frozen, but i hit the power button and the shutdown menu popped up and it counted down then shutoff :-/
[05:38] <xae8koo> shauno: I would sort of like a fancy web interface and stuff that managed my computers.
[05:39] <tucemiux> sharris, sorry but i dont think that alienware laptop likes linux, it doesnt play nice with the hardware, I would suggest filing a bug report and asking a developer to fix the issues you are experiencing
[05:39] <wrenny> im trying to install flash in Ubuntu, i click on the link on adobe site then it say i have to open it with an application
[05:39] <sharris> ;-/ ok
[05:40] <sharris> where do i fill out the bug report?
[05:40] <ashraf> how do i change line spacing between bullet points on open office
[05:40] <abhijit> !bug | sharris
[05:40] <elitexray> wrenny use synaptic package manager in system admin to install adobe flash
[05:40] <wrenny> how
[05:40] <wrenny> im a total noob
[05:41] <ashraf> can someone help me with open office
[05:41] <elitexray> go to system then administration
[05:41] <tucemiux> wrenny, if youre a total noob then make sure your browser points to the adobe website and open the flash package
[05:41] <abhijit> ashraf, try in #openoffice.org
[05:42] <sharris> where can I find a laptop that WILL work great with ubuntu studio? :)
[05:42] <wrenny> like i said it asks for an app to open it
[05:42] <abhijit> !hardware | sharris
[05:42] <ashraf> thanks abhijit
[05:42] <sharris> thanks :D
[05:42] <rezolute> best usenet client for ubuntu?
[05:42] <tucemiux> sharris, youre a musician or want to use ubuntu for video editing?
[05:42] <abhijit> ashraf, sharris welcome :)
[05:42] <abhijit> bye
[05:43] <ZykoticK9> !flash | wrenny
[05:45] <elitexray> wrenny the synaptic package manager does all the work for you
[05:45] <xae8koo> I want to tie all my ubuntus together in a server, so I can se if they are active, online, and works.
[05:45] <elitexray> common sense thereafter
[05:45] <xae8koo> Anything like that?
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> That !flash link has been updated with the current 64bit info, but not install instructions for 10.04?
[05:45] <Wiesshund> xae8koo er say what?
[05:45] <wrenny> so open it then what
[05:46] <elitexray> search for adoe flash
[05:46] <elitexray> it'll come up for sure
[05:46] <ashraf> couldnt get any help from the guys at openoffice
[05:46] <wrenny> im currently running the updates in Ubuntu, I just installed it into Vbox
[05:46] <wrenny> takin too long
[05:46] <elitexray> Yeah you can't run two instances at once..
[05:47] <wrenny> unless that update includes flash but I doubt it
[05:47] <elitexray> no it doesnt. I tried it too
[05:47] <wrenny> then i gotta get the sound going here
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, installing ubuntu-restricted-extras will install flash and a bunch of codecs you might like MP3/AVI/etc.  something to keep in mind.
[05:48] <wrenny> how
[05:48] <tucemiux> ashraf, this channel is for ubuntu support only, you can ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <xae8koo> Wiesshund: I want a site, where I can see if all my boxes are running. Do simple commands, and such.
[05:49] <Niglop> which program is better for penetration testing: 43af or nessus?
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> xae8koo, one linux remote control option is SSH, you can use X forwarding if you want GUI apps.  not exactly what you're looking for i don't think...
[05:50] <Wiesshund> ZykoticK9 sounds like he wants a web app that shows server online and maybe issues some commands?
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> xae8koo, oh if you're looking for some web based thing - i have NO idea.
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> !ot > Niglop
[05:52] <Wiesshund> xae8koo what you want is possible but i dont know of any prebuilt stuff
[05:52] <PythonPup> xae8koo, I would suggest you look at nagios/
[05:54] <patx> anyone know anything better then remastersys to remaster a ubuntu distro?
[05:54] <wrenny> where /how do i install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:55] <patx> wrenny, sudo apt-get install foo
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, Synaptic / Ubuntu Software Center - or "sudo apt-get ..."
[05:55] <wrenny> assume I know nothing
[05:55] <Jinxzs> wrenny check my pm
[05:55] <Jinxzs> im newbie also maybe you can understand me..
[05:55] <patx> wrenny, go to terminal
[05:55] <patx> type
[05:55] <patx> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:56] <wrenny> k
[05:56] <wrenny> so its not a download
[05:56] <Jinxzs> its one way or the other.
[05:56] <patx> no
[05:56] <patx> its a package
[05:56] <patx> read some docs
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> !enter | patx
[05:57] <wx9j> what GStreamer do I need to make sound juicer rip MP3's ?
[05:58] <patx> ZykoticK9, what???
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> patx, try not to hit the Enter key quite so much :)
[05:59] <Gnea> wx9j: apt-cache show sound-juicer
[05:59] <patx> oh yea sorry.... for using those two big lines are really spamish
[05:59] <patx> :s
[05:59] <IdleOne> patx: imagine you and 1424 other people using 2-3 lines for no reason
[05:59] <ZykoticK9> wx9j, gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad perhaps?
[05:59] <Gnea> !enter
[06:00] <patx> IdleOne, last time a i looked thats how most channels are, and they run just fine
[06:01] <Gnea> patx: this is #ubuntu, not most channels. please show some respect for how it works.
[06:01] <wx9j> Gnea, thanks,
[06:01] <IdleOne> patx: this is not a discussion, it is channel policy. please follow the rules of the channel
[06:02] <patx> link to channel policy please
[06:02] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[06:02] <IdleOne> !codeofconduct
[06:02] <patx> thx
[06:02] <maco> also
[06:02] <maco> !coc
[06:02] <maco> bah im too slow
[06:03] <IdleOne> patx: read them and if you have any questions please feel free to bring them up in #ubuntu-ops
[06:03] <kvio04> A user I was training to use gparted accidentally overwrote the master partition table on the wrong drive while I was away. Nothing new has been written to the drive since then, so the data's all still there; is it possible to restore the partition table if a new one has been made?
[06:03] <patx> IdleOne, will do
[06:03] <Gnea> patx: some things are amended via the bot, so consider things like !enter an extension of official channel policy
[06:04] <PythonPup> kvio04, yes
[06:04] <bsmith093> i realize this isnt a windows channel but how do i update the list of bad sectors on my hd in windows? is there even an option? does it keep a list?
[06:04] <kvio04> PythonPup: what does that entail?
[06:04] <bazhang> bsmith093, ##windows
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> kvio04, check out testdisk for partition recovery.  good luck.
[06:04] <bsmith093> thanks
[06:05] <kvio04> Zykotick9: I was just reading on the cgsecurity wiki -- is testdisk still able to do it if the ..backup? sector is overwritten
[06:05] <PythonPup> kvio04, You said restore, so I took it you had a backup.  If not, you need to think carefully and remember what was there.  That is your choice.
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> kvio04, i wouldn't know for sure...
[06:06] <patx> Gnea, ah i see. becaue i have seen anything a bout using two diffeent lines for two different thoughts. which i would expect. now you have mantioned the bot anbeding it i would think the person who defined the factoid was assuming the users spammed about 4 or more lines?
[06:06] <kvio04> PythonPup: the machine was mine so I'm not sure of where the partitions started and ended on the drive, but it was two NTFS (one angel part, one windows)
[06:06] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks, when booting up I get a bunch of errors and a "(initramfs)" prompt. What's going on and how do I fix it?
[06:07] <patx> but this is a topic i should query about in ubuntu ops correct?
[06:07] <PythonPup> kvio04, If you don't have a backup, or get lucky, your data is pretty much gone.
[06:07] <fhilop> niggas cant see me
[06:08] <IdleOne> !guidelines > fhilop
[06:08] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, It means your kerlel can't boot.  Sometimes, you can boot to a prior kernel and get into the system.
[06:08] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: How do I do that?
[06:09] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, carefully and with a fair amount of trouble.
[06:09] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: Wonderful. Can you walk me through it?
[06:09] <Yerushalmi> Pretty please? :)
[06:09] <pepperjack> Yerushalmi: if the menu is hidden the prior kernel might be available as a menu entry.  might try hitting esc at bootup to get into grub menu then arrow down to prevous kernel
[06:10] <Yerushalmi> Ah, okay, I'll try that
[06:10] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, Installing kvm on Maverick caused that problem for me recently.  I'll give you the basics.  I used a Knoppix CD to boot the computer.  I manually mounted the hard drive and then edited /boot/grub/grub.cfg to select a different default choice.
[06:11] <xangua> pepperjack: it wasn't the Alt key¿¿
[06:11] <Yerushalmi> pepperjack: Tried hitting Escape every other second after the BIOS screen disappeared, no luck - still at the initramfs
[06:11] <pepperjack> ah might be different now. i may be thinking of grub1
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> Yerushalmi, hold down shift if you are using Grub2
[06:12] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: I have no idea what kvm and Maverick are. All I know is that yesterday evening I came out of hibernate, didn't have write (only read) access to anything, rebooted, and got this.
[06:12] <PythonPup> pepperjack,, the option is still there in grub2.  The window where it looks for the key is just very brief.
[06:12] <Win7[ME]> my screen is all streched out
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> Win7[ME], in Windows 7?
[06:13] <wrenny> how can I see Ubuntu bigger, its only displaying now half size since i ran Ubuntu updates
[06:13] <Win7[ME]> lol
[06:13] <patx> what tool can i use to make a iso of my ubuntu dist (a respin maker)
[06:13] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, you don't need to know about kvm and Maverick.  That was just for versamilitude.  The way I recovered should work for you, though.
[06:13] <Win7[ME]> Irun it in a virtual machine
[06:13] <bazhang> !remaster > patx
[06:13] <fhilop> dfsdfg
[06:13] <razz1> how to switch between users when using vnc? using vino as server?
[06:13] <fhilop> sdfg
[06:13] <fhilop> sdf
[06:14] <fhilop> gsd
[06:14] <fhilop> fgsd
[06:14] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: Not on a netbook. Unless there's a USB version of that CD. Anyway, shift brought up the menu, I'm going to try previous kernels
[06:14] <FloodBot2> fhilop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <fhilop> fg
[06:14] <fhilop> dsfg
[06:14] <maco> fhilop: stop that
[06:14] <Yerushalmi> (Is it worth trying the current kernel's recovery mode?)
[06:14] <roaddhogg> !remaster > roaddhogg
[06:14] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, Good.  There is a USB boot option.  But, I am glad you got in without it.
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> roaddhogg, if you want to see a factoid you can use "/MSG ubottu WHATYOURLOOKINGFOR" and it won't show up in the channel.
[06:15] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, I would just see if it boots with a prior kernel, first.  The recovery console won't help you,, unless you know what to do when it boots.
[06:16] <patx> thx bazhang
[06:16] <bazhang> patx, welcome
[06:16] <Yerushalmi> Which I don't, hehe, but tried anyway and got the same error, so I'm booting up previous kernel
[06:16] <hasek79> is there any way to get the volume control back in a panel?
[06:17] <PythonPup> hasek79, System/Preferences/Startup Applications.
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> hasek79, right click panel / add to panel / indicator applet - if you right clicked remove
[06:18] <razz1> which vnc server is considered to be secure and efficient? I am looking at x11vnc and freenx to replace vino.
[06:18] <Yerushalmi> Booting up the previous kernel at least brings me to the ubuntu loading screen, but then "Errors were found while checking the disk drive for /"
[06:18] <PythonPup> razz1, freenx is much faster than vnc.  No vnc is very secure.  If you want that, tunnel it through a vpn or ssh.
[06:19] <melvster> hi all ... anyone know if i can move the mouse pointer from a command line script?
[06:19] <Jinxzs> my ubuntu is take time to boot
[06:19] <Yerushalmi> This has happened before, usually I just shut off, eject my hard drive (I run my computer off an SDHC card), put it back in, and turn it back on, which contrary to all expectations actually works. Didn't this time though.
[06:19] <PythonPup> melvster, Sure, write a script to tell the user to move the mouse.
[06:20] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, It sounds like you have some corrupted files this time.
[06:20] <melvster> was looking for somethink like xvkbd for the mouse ... maybe ill try ironahk then ...
[06:21] <Yerushalmi> ...okay, the kernel prior to that one works.
[06:21] <Yerushalmi> I'm booted up. What do I do from here to repair the more recent one?
[06:22] <razz1> pythonpup, i am tunnelling through ssh, will try freenx, I am using remmina as client, vinagre was shocking. should I keep using remmina or get a nx client
[06:23] <pepperjack> freenx used to be a pain to setup but i havent used it for years.  when it was setup though it was amazingly responsive
[06:23] <melvster> ah got it
[06:23] <melvster> xdotool mousemove 500 500
[06:23] <Jinxzs> how to make it to boot faster.
[06:23] <PythonPup> razz1, I don't know remmina.  I would get an nx client.
[06:23] <wrenny> i installed allthtat stuff and web sites still say I have to install flash?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Jinxzs: you can remove startup items
[06:24] <Jinxzs> how
[06:24] <razz1> PythonPup: will install freenx and see how it goes, thnx
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> Jinxzs: use bum
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> !boot | Jinxzs
[06:24] <xangua> wrenny: did you restart your browser¿
[06:24] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup, what can I do from here to fix my default kernel? I managed to get in using a previous one.
[06:25] <wrenny> nm
[06:25] <wrenny> heh
[06:25] <razz1> PythonPup: by the way how it change between users on the server with out losing the connection?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> wrenny: can you use http://pastie.org to give the output of: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Thanks
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> wrenny: smells like flash is ok for you already :)
[06:26] <wrenny> workin now
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> Cool, no need to move
[06:26] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, I have used 2 different approaches.  One was wiping the whole computer and reinstalling.  Two was setting the old kernel to be the default and living with it until a newer kernel came out.  In other words, I never directly fixed the problem.  Sorry.
[06:26] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: Ah, hehe, alright then
[06:27] <queso> How can I see which packages were upgraded after a recent upgrade?
[06:27] <CodeWar> 10.04 is friggin fast!!! great job guys!
[06:27] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: I'll do the second one. I never really noticed a difference. How do I do it?
[06:27] <razz1> which one is better freenx or neatx?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: you could reinstall the kernel. See if its friendlier. Run: sudo apt-get clean ,so you have to download a fresh one
[06:27] <PythonPup> Are you using grub1 or grub2, Yerushalmi?
[06:27] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: I believe grub2
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> CodeWar: if you use a lighter DE, its even faster ;)
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, i don't fully understand Bum yet, but great tool!  thanks
[06:28] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Oh, awesome. Don't have internet access right now, I'll do that from home, so in the meantime I'll set up the default boot on the previous one.
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: it doesn't fully tie in afaik, as some boot stuff it doesn't see
[06:29] <wrenny> how can I install video drivers in Ubuntu to make video better
[06:29] <xangua> wrenny: what video card¿
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: what it does see it can play with though. It may have been revised since I last messed with it
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> wrenny: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:29] <wrenny> Geforce 9800 GT
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | wrenny
[06:30] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, i'm actually looking at the version in Maverick at the moment, will certainly install in Lucid when i reboot ;)
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> wrenny: the default install will use nouveau, you can install the proprietary if you like
[06:30] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, System / Admin / Hardware Drivers - then activate whatever nvidia version is Recommended
[06:31] <Jinxzs> is it okay to remove all in start-up programs?
[06:31] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg.  There is a line that says   set default="0".  You probably change the 0 to a 2.  But, you need to look in the file to see if that is right.  Count down to see where the prior kernel is.  The first one is 0.
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Jinxzs: sure if you want a very stripped down system. Just remove what you don't need, like cups if you never use it, or the filesharing stuff if you don't use that either
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: remember to run: sudo update-grub ,after editting
[06:33] <wrenny> ok i need more help here on this driver
[06:33] <ZykoticK9> !away > zz_PhilMather
[06:33] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, you have to do a chmod on that file to be able to edit it.
[06:33] <wrenny> im in hardware drivers
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Jinxzs: a default install of ubuntu has a lot of guff enabled. If you can make it more exact to your needs it'll be faster
[06:33] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: I used gksudo nautilus
[06:33] <wrenny> says Oracle VM virualbox guest additions for Linux Module
[06:34] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: recovery modes don't count among the numbers, right? So if I'm using one kernel down, it's set default="1", and two kernels down it's 2, right?
[06:34] <PythonPup> Sounds dangerous, but it is your system, Yerushalmi
[06:34] <Yerushalmi> Why dangerous?
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, if you installing in VirtualBox install the Guest Additions!  totally different the real hardware.
[06:34] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, They do count.  That was why I said 2, and not 1.
[06:34] <Yerushalmi> Ah, so I gotta do 4.
[06:34] <wrenny> wait what?
[06:34] <Yerushalmi> Previous kernel didn't work, I went two back.
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> wrenny: is the ubuntu install in a virtualbox?
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, is you Ubuntu installed inside a VirtualBox VM?
[06:35] <wrenny> yea
[06:35] <wrenny> i already install Guest thing i think
[06:35] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, OK, 4 it is.  Don't worry about the update-grub.  It is not needed, and would probably erase your fix.
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, enable 3d support in the vbox configuration?
[06:35] <wrenny> where
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> wrenny: you can use an xorg.conf to get a larger display too
[06:36] <wrenny> guide me there please
[06:36] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, in the properties for the VM - in the main VBox window
[06:36] <Yerushalmi> Alright. Out of curiosity, why's gksudo nautilus dangerous?
[06:36] <wrenny> where
[06:36] <sudharsh> Hi all, I am trying to setup NFS in my local network. Have installed nfs-kernel-server in my server and nfs-kernel-common in my client. Have put entries in /etc/exports and the server starts fine. However, I am not able to mount the directories in my client. Keep getting " RPC Error: Program not registered".. Is there any diagnostics I can do to fix this?
[06:36] <PythonPup> wrenny, did you install the guest package from Synaptic.  It does not really help.  You need the installer from Sun.
[06:36] <wrenny> all i see is Machine  Devices  help at top
[06:36] <Wiesshund> same
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> wrenny: your ubuntu won't seen an nvidia video chip. It will see a virtualised chip so you can't install nvidia drivers there
[06:37] <sudharsh> ... and this is the server version. So do not have the luxury of gvfs
[06:37] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, right click on your ubuntu vm / settings / click Display - Enable 3d checkbox and increase the memory slider
[06:37] <ibrahim-kasem> Hi, If I want to update from 9.10 Karmic to 10.04 Lucid How much is the size of the update files because I have a slow internet connection kind of
[06:37] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, Because you could accidently edit other files.  I stay in a sudo command as little as needed.
[06:37] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: Ah. I see.
[06:37] <wrenny> I dont see settings
[06:38] <Yerushalmi> Anyway, awesome! I'm booting up, using an older kernel
[06:38] <wrenny> all i see is Machine  Devices  help at top
[06:38] <ubuntu_> i cant install ubuntu on my computer im stuck in step 4 of 8, could help me please?
[06:38] <razz11> how to add a user to suoders file, I created a new user and cannot use sudo!!
[06:38] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, not in that window.  in the main vbox window, you need to stop your current VM session to make any changes!
[06:38] <ZykoticK9> razz11, add them to the admin group
[06:39] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: If a new kernel shows up, will it appear automatically in Update Manager?
[06:39] <greezmunkey> sudharsh: did you restart the NFS daemon after your changes to /etc/exports ? If no, please do so.
[06:39] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, great.  Good luck a new kernel comes out every week or two.  Wait until the minor version number changes.  So, 2.6.32-25
[06:39] <Daemonvs> i cant install ubuntu on my computer im stuck in step 4 of 8, could you help me please?
[06:39] <psycho789> when i try to boot up the ubuntu disc i get a I/O Error -
[06:39] <Yerushalmi> *nod* And will it change the grub file back, or will I have to change it back to zero manually?
[06:39] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, yes, it shows up in update manager.
[06:39] <psycho789> it says error reading bood CD
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> razz11: use user management or cli to add the user to the admin group, then log it off then on, it will have sudo
[06:39] <Daemonvs> i cant install ubuntu on my computer im stuck in step 4 of 8, could you help me please?
[06:39] <wrenny> 3d is enabled
[06:39] <sudharsh> greezmunkey, i did yeah, on both the server and the client, /etc/init.d/nfs-(kernel-server|common)
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, then that's as good as your graphics are gonna get i'm affraid.
[06:40] <Daemonvs> i cant install ubuntu on my computer im stuck in step 4 of 8, could you help me please?
[06:40] <wrenny> how much Video memory should I set
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> wrenny, i set mine to max, it runs compiz poorly
[06:40] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, It will set it back to 0, unless you stop it.  I have to do that on one Maverick test system, because the default keral is a pae one which won't boot on my computer.
[06:40] <ibrahim-kasem> Daemonvs, what is the fourth step , please remind me, is it when building the file system ?
[06:40] <wrenny> does it make much of a diff with flash to set any more?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Daemonvs: did you md5 test the iso you downoaded? Did you burn the CD as slowly as you could? Have you tested your RAM? Did you test the CD for defects?
[06:41] <Yerushalmi>  I have no idea what that meant, but at least I know that things should work automatically from here on...
[06:41] <Yerushalmi> PythonPup: Awesome. You've saved the doctoral dissertation of somebody you've never heard of (not me - I'm just the editor). Thanks so much! :)
[06:41] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, keral -> kernel
[06:41] <Daemonvs> step 4 is the prepare partition
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: why don't you have a backup???
[06:41] <PythonPup> Yerushalmi, glad to help.  Good luck.
[06:41] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Oh, I do, but I don't have another computer :p
[06:42] <psycho789> what do i do if i keep getting an "error reading boot CD" when i try to start up. ive tried 2 diff CDs
[06:42] <ibrahim-kasem> ActionParsnip, as to me I have tested the iso file using md5 and evverything was fine but when building the file system the operation freezes on 5%
[06:42] <Daemonvs> i cant see hard drives on step 4
[06:42] <ibrahim-kasem> Daemonvs, yes I am having the same issue with 10.04 on my hp laptop
[06:42] <Sup3rkiddo> greezmunkey, showmount -e <ip> isn't helping either. Is there some command I can run to check is everything is alright, as in any troubleshooting steps?
[06:42] <Sup3rkiddo> .. and logs?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> ibrahim-kasem: did you test the cd for defects once first booted to?
 so what should i do?
[06:43] <PythonPup> psycho789, bad CD, cd drive, cable, or motherboard.  Swap components until you figure out which it is.  Hint:  Don't start with the motherboard.
[06:43] <Yerushalmi> Anyway, you all have a good day, folks. You guys make using Ubuntu a blast.
[06:43] <Daemonvs> forget 10.04 and install 9.xx?
[06:43] <greezmunkey> sudharsh: rpcinfo ?? man rpcinfo, use would be rpcinfo -p
[06:43] <ibrahim-kasem> ActionParsnip,  I have burned many cd's on many computers but sorry I don't know what are you talking about
[06:43] <Sup3rkiddo> greezmunkey, okie
[06:43] <PythonPup> Daemonvs, Always remember 10.04.  But, it does not work for a few things.
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> ibrahim-kasem: when the stickman shows up, press space then use cursors and enter to select "check CD for defects"
 should i install 9.xx instead?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> ibrahim-kasem: if you burn as slowly as you are allowed, the chance of this passing is greatly increased
[06:45] <ibrahim-kasem> ActionParsnip, which one is better upgrading my current or installing a new fresh copy ?
[06:45] <Sup3rkiddo> greezmunkey, http://dpaste.com/225169/ I suppose something is up with the client then?
[06:45] <PythonPup> Daemonvs, is your problem that you see no drives during the install?  If so, then sure try 9.10 and see if it works.  My guess is it won't do better, but it is possible.
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> ibrahim-kasem: neither is better, nor worse. Both have clear advantages
[06:46] <greezmunkey> Sup3rkiddo: check this thread b4 moving on: http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=8800.0
[06:46] <PythonPup> Daemonvs, If 9.10 see the drive, install it and then upgrade to 10.04.
[06:46] <Sup3rkiddo> greezmunkey, roger that
 i'll try that
 thanks
[06:46] <PythonPup> Daemonvs, but, you probably have a dead or unsopported component in the drive chain.
[06:47] <ibrahim-kasem> ActionParsnip, do you have an idea about the size of the update files please ?
 well im using the live and can browse the drives without problems
 live cd*
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> ibrahim-kasem: depends on how many packages you have installed. For example if you use abiword instead of whe whole bloated openoffice install, it will take a shorter amount of time as the data needed to install is less
[06:49] <ibrahim-kasem> ActionParsnip, yes I understand , thank you very much
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> ibrahim-kasem: in linux there are no hard and fast answers as the OS is so flexible. A server install running only print and samba servers will update in a fraction of the time someone with a full blown desktop + compiz + openoffice
[06:49] <hua_> #join ubuntu-cn
[06:50] <PythonPup> Daemonvs, that happens every so often.  Once installed, you should be fine.  The live CD does not have all the drivers.  I don't know if it is that some get downloaded during install or what.  Your other choice might be to use the alternate installer for 10.04.  That is what I'd do next.
[06:51] <ibrahim-kasem> Daemonvs, are you installing it on a laptop ?
[06:52] <Niglop> vim or emacs?
[06:52] <jussi> Niglop: not here please.
[06:52] <Niglop> jussi»  nobody ever talks in offtopic :( I just need a quick answer
[06:52] <Daemonvs> ibrahim-kasem, Desktop
[06:52] <jussi> Niglop: personal preferemce, they are free, try them :)
[06:53] <jussi> !poll | Niglop
[06:53] <Niglop> kk -.-
[06:55] <Gangosan>  ***  I am now away.  Reason: _____________HASHISH___________$~ + """].  ***
[06:58] <GarbageMobileDev> libimobiledevice sux sh!t
[06:58] <Daemonvs> lol
[06:58] <GarbageMobileDev> How come lazy forum admins do not delete old threads with old useless information?
[06:59] <GarbageMobileDev> Who puts a link to here via a website?
[06:59] <tensorpudding> Because there are too many forum threads, too few admins.
[06:59] <GarbageMobileDev> I am so freaking mad right now
[06:59] <GarbageMobileDev> Im two seconds away from uninstalling this garbage
[07:00] <GarbageMobileDev> I cant register on ubuntu forums
[07:00] <GarbageMobileDev> I get erros
[07:00] <tensorpudding> Which errors?
[07:00] <GarbageMobileDev> I forget
[07:00] <GarbageMobileDev> I cant login
[07:00] <GarbageMobileDev> says "logging in"
[07:00] <GarbageMobileDev> but it doesnt
[07:00] <GarbageMobileDev> Tried with Opera and FF
[07:01] <GarbageMobileDev> the forums on how to install libimobiledevice is outdated
[07:01] <tensorpudding> There's a lot of outdated articles on the Ubuntu forums.
[07:02] <GarbageMobileDev> Ya
[07:02] <tensorpudding> Generally speaking, they mention which version of Ubuntu it involves, and if it is more than one version in the past it won't work at all.
[07:02] <GarbageMobileDev> Im screwing up my new linux
[07:02] <jussi> GarbageMobileDev: please join #ubuntuforums for forums help
[07:03] <GarbageMobileDev> and gimp
[07:03] <GarbageMobileDev> people say yyou can open PSD
[07:03] <GarbageMobileDev> lies
[07:03] <GarbageMobileDev> all lies
[07:03] <tensorpudding> What's PSD?
[07:03] <GarbageMobileDev> photoshop
[07:03] <tensorpudding> Is that a Photoshop contrivance?
[07:03] <GarbageMobileDev> you cant open CMYK
[07:03] <jussi> !enter | GarbageMobileDev
[07:03] <GarbageMobileDev> so frustrating
[07:03] <tensorpudding> Gimp has never supported CMYK, to my knowledge.
[07:03] <GarbageMobileDev> lol
[07:03] <tensorpudding> This is a known failing
[07:04] <GarbageMobileDev> Well they said you can
[07:04] <jussi> this is an article for arch, but I guess its much the same: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CMYK_support_in_The_GIMP
[07:04] <tensorpudding> Gimp is not feature-complete via-à-vis recent Photoshop releases.
[07:05] <xangua> GarbageMobileDev: stop that please
[07:05] <GarbageMobileDev> oops
[07:05] <GarbageMobileDev> Thanks
[07:05] <studio_> fgfdgdf
[07:06] <GarbageMobileDev> I do grahpic design, and i thought i could switch to linux
[07:06] <jussi> !info gimp-plugin-registry
[07:06] <PythonPup> Gimp can open many psd files.
[07:06] <jussi> GarbageMobileDev: ^^
[07:06] <xangua> !coc > GarbageMobileDev
[07:06] <GarbageMobileDev> okay
[07:06] <LinuxGuy2009> Hello, I was wondering if I install a package, lets say VLC for example, within the gnome desktop, if I take all of the packages that were downloaded in the gnome environment, to a different installation that has KDE, fluxbox, etc, installed as the graphical desktop instead, or window manager, is there any chance that a dependency will be missing? For example maybe a library or package that is a part of the gnome desktop will be missing?
[07:06] <jussi> GarbageMobileDev: I think youll get a lot more joy with those plugins installed
[07:07] <GarbageMobileDev> ubottu
[07:07] <GarbageMobileDev> lololol
[07:07] <tensorpudding> LinuxGuy2009: Be more specific what you mean by "take all of the packages"
[07:07] <GarbageMobileDev> Is there anything else someone wants ME to do for THEM in here?
[07:07] <PythonPup> LinuxGuy2009, Certainly, there is a chance
[07:07] <jussi> GarbageMobileDev: read the guidelines
[07:07] <GarbageMobileDev> Okay lets talk about all of your feelings
[07:07] <jussi> !guidelines
[07:07] <GarbageMobileDev> before we get to my problem
[07:07] <GarbageMobileDev> Seeing "I" joined your network
[07:07] <GarbageMobileDev> Okay, ready..
[07:08] <jussi> GarbageMobileDev: basically we just ask you to abide by the rules, thats all.
[07:08] <GarbageMobileDev> Rules...
[07:08] <tensorpudding> LinuxGuy2009: If you make a list of all the packages you have installed in Ubuntu, and on this theoretical installation running KDE you use aptitude to install those packages again, it will manage the dependencies for you.
[07:08] <GarbageMobileDev> Who about you guyys clean your forums
[07:08] <GarbageMobileDev> and stop wasting peopels time
[07:08] <xangua> GarbageMobileDev: if you are not looking ubuntu support you can just keep quiet or leave
[07:08] <GarbageMobileDev> lolol
[07:08] <tensorpudding> LinuxGuy2009: It's highly likely that installing those GNOME packages will pull in a lot of GNOME libraries as dependencies.
[07:08] <jussi> GarbageMobileDev: as I mentioned, forums help is in #ubuntuforums
[07:08] <GarbageMobileDev> See your feelings
[07:08] <GarbageMobileDev> Blah, garbage
[07:09] <LinuxGuy2009> I would love a way to download a package along with 100% of dependency packages even the ones that are already on the system. So that I can use APTonCD and not worry about packages missing. Is there a command of some kind or a method to do this?
[07:09] <jussi> GarbageMobileDev: Ive attempted to help with your issue, and given a solution
[07:09] <tensorpudding> LinuxGuy2009: Such a package would likely be very large and difficult to use.
[07:10] <LinuxGuy2009> What?
[07:10] <GarbageMobileDev> Im just goig to sit her and have a BF
[07:10] <GarbageMobileDev> here*
[07:10] <PythonPup> LinuxGuy2009, You could write a program to do that, I am sure.  But, I don't know of one at this time.
[07:10] <tensorpudding> LinuxGuy2009: It'd need to be statically-linked to a large number of libraries, like what applications in Windows tend to be
[07:10] <xangua> LinuxGuy2009: you can just download the ubuntu DVD
[07:11] <LinuxGuy2009> nm thanks anyways
[07:11] <tensorpudding> Actually, think that's a lie, since a lot of Windows applications are dynamically linked to the Windows libraries
[07:11] <dr0id> I performed this command -> wget http://www.google.com but I don't understand where did it save the index.html file, I am running ubuntu 9.10 , any idea gguys?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: pwd
[07:12] <dr0id> ActionParsnip: and where's that ?
[07:12] <dr0id> ohh lol, thanks
[07:12] <GarbageMobileDev> And people who put web links to this network, are not too bright
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: it'll be in the directory you ran the command. Pwd == present working directory
[07:12] <GarbageMobileDev> What joy waiting 20 minutes while 20,000+ rooms load
[07:12] <PythonPup> People need to be patient.  I was about to tell LinuxGuy2009 about   apt-cache depends
[07:12] <dr0id> ActionParsnip: thanks, bud!
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: np
[07:13] <greezmunkey> dr0id: look in the directory you were in when you issued the command, perhaps a subdirectory named www.google.com, or the like.
[07:13] <GarbageMobileDev> Accually it frooze my browser
[07:13] <jussi> GarbageMobileDev: feedback about the network can be given to freenode staff in #freenode
[07:13] <dr0id> ActionParsnip: just another question
[07:13] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip: nice, how's it going?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Sup
[07:13] <dr0id> I don't want wget to download any files, can I do that ?
[07:13] <GarbageMobileDev> jej
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: on the way to my last day of 4, you ok?
[07:14] <dr0id> basically ,just open the url and done, no file download
[07:14] <PythonPup> dr0id, It is easy to make wget not download anything.
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: as far as I know it just grabs the html file
[07:14] <dr0id> yeah, and saving to /home
[07:14] <dr0id> I don't want it to do that
[07:14] <dr0id> because my cron job will run everyday
[07:14] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip: I installed a four node campus wireless WAN today, payment is in the form of a brand new laptop!
[07:15] <dr0id> and after a month I would have 30 files :P
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: oh so you want it to overwite?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: nice :)
[07:15] <dr0id> no, I don't want it to grab anything
[07:15] <dr0id> and fill up the filesystem
[07:15] <pepperjack> dr0id: what do you want it to do?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: then don't run the wget command.
[07:16] <aruntomar> hi! i want to aggregate 2 ppp connections for upload purposes. i've tried couple of ideas, but none of them are working. plz help.
[07:16] <dr0id> then how do I open a url from cron job ?
[07:16] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip: I increased their BW ten fold. Their pretty happy. So...I'd say I had a good day.
[07:16] <dr0id> open means processing
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: if you wget something and its available then wget will download it. That's what wget does
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: not too shabby. Mind you over wifi..thought it'd be slow
[07:17] <dr0id> ActionParsnip: seems like this works for me -> wget -S --spider http://www.google.com :)
[07:18] <pepperjack> wget -S google.com -O /dev/null    or something maybe
[07:18] <shizuyang> pervy_sage,
[07:19] <pervy_sage> Heya
[07:19] <pervy_sage> shizuyang: Heya
[07:19] <dr0id> pepperjack: anyways, that works perfect :)
[07:19] <pervy_sage> Whatup?
[07:19] <pervy_sage> shizuyang: RASENGAN!
[07:19] <greezmunkey> dr0id: ActionParsnip wget also works nicely for grabbing images from IP cameras...;)
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: oh absolutely ;)
[07:21] <dr0id> well
[07:21] <dr0id> in a cron job
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> If you use enough zoom in nautilus you can use the preview function on a few images to observe multiple ip cams
[07:21] <dr0id> if I add this -> >> /dev/null 2>&1
[07:22] <dr0id> what would this mean ?
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: it mean "don't output the usual system output to stdout, I'm not interested"
[07:22] <dr0id> well, does the output get saved anywhere ?
[07:23] <Onia>  ***  I am back.  Gone for 27mins 16secs  ***
[07:23] <pepperjack> that would redirect stderr and out but youd still get an index file
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: try it with a browser, one with the option, one without. You'll see what it does
[07:23] <dr0id> if yes, then is it cleared? or the filesystem keeps on filling up ?
[07:23] <dr0id> well, I tried one, no output was made in the terminal (ssh)
[07:23] <dr0id> and then I changed the path to a file created by me, and output was saved in that file
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: the output of the command doing its thing as it does it will go to stdout. You can pipe it to null to supress it
[07:24] <cgtobi> hi all, I have some issues getting my ubuntu to activate network on bootup. I tried removing NetworkManager.state but it didn't solve my issue. Is there a way to permanently activate networking at boottime?
[07:25] <dr0id> ActionParsnip: on piping it to /dev/null I think it gets stored there, is it cleared anytime then ?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> cgtobi: you can add network manager to the bootup scripts. This is default
[07:25] <DasEi> !fonts > DasEi
[07:25] <cgtobi> ActionParsnip: you mean it is added to bootup scripts by default?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: /dev/null is a blackhole. It doesn't store anything and is infinite
[07:25] <dr0id> aah, thank you :)
[07:26] <xangua> cgtobi: use wicd
[07:26] <greezmunkey> dr0id: I may be wrong, but /dev/null afaik is the "bit bucket" the computers black hole.
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> cgtobi: the network manager process is part of a standard startup for ubuntu
[07:26] <PythonPup> dr0id, /dev/null is a special device that immediately throws away everything sent to it.
[07:26] <dr0id> ok, thanks a lot :)
[07:26] <dr0id> can I add more than 1 email ids in MAILTO in a cron entry ?
[07:26] <greezmunkey> (I really have to learn to type, and look at the screen at the same time)
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> cgtobi: if you don't use 3G then i'd go with xangua and install wicd. It will automagically remove network manager and run at boot
[07:26] <Wiesshund> cp windows* /dev/null
[07:27] <Blue1> greezmunkey: it's tough some days...
[07:27] <PythonPup> greezmunkey, practice by walking and chewing gum.
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: not sure dude. Can't see why not
[07:27] <RAX_bg> hi guys i was wondering if i can share a folder in the internet, so I can use its contents
[07:27] <Blue1> Wiesshund: cp /dev/zero windows
[07:27] <dr0id> ok, thanks a lot, take care :)
[07:27] <dr0id> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot to you hehe :)
[07:27] <GarbageMobileDev> Im sorry for what i said, I dont think this is garbage OS. I think it can do well. I just want things to work
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: I type looking at the keyboard. I know whe I've messed up :)
[07:28] <dr0id> and others too ;)]
[07:28] <greezmunkey> PythonPup: I tried that, every time I looked down to check on my feet, the gum fell out of my mouth, so I gave up on it...
[07:28] <dr0id> I type looking at the tft tbh
[07:28] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, that is what Ubuntu One does for you.
[07:28] <dr0id> I don't look at the KB at all
[07:28] <xangua> RAX_bg: ftp, ubuntu one, dropbox, opera unite, etc¿¿
[07:28] <cgtobi> its a box with a wired connction, so so I guess xangua's suggestion is my way to go
[07:28] <cgtobi> thanks for your help
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> GarbageMobileDev: ubuntu isn't always the answer, other linux distros exist, as does BSD and BeOS
[07:29] <the_fool> anyone know if there is a way to change the wallpaper everytime I login?
[07:29] <PythonPup> BeOS is dead.  Try Syllable.
[07:29] <RAX_bg> xangua: i dont want smth like ftp i want a folder shared like i share it in my local network
[07:29] <tensorpudding> Haiku!
[07:29] <cgtobi> the_fool: use a shell script and run it each time you log in
[07:29] <Wiesshund> Blue1 now i have a yellow windows
[07:29] <tensorpudding> It's almost usable, Haiku is.
[07:29] <RAX_bg> xangua: i want to share a game and to start it from other pc outside my local network
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> cgtobi: if it never moves you can setup the connectioon in /etc/network/interfaces and remove all graphical network management apps as they aren't needed
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> cgtobi: unless you mess with vpn etc
[07:30] <RAX_bg> is this possible?
[07:30] <the_fool> cgtobi, thanks, that's a good idea - quick follow up - how hard do you think it would be to check the boarder of the image and set backround color?
[07:30] <Wiesshund> the_fool yes kind of
[07:30] <Blue1> Wiesshund: you weren't supposed to pee on it!  hmm maybe that's what pee cee stand for?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> RAX_bg: is the game 2D?
[07:30] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, Ubuntu One acts like a folder on your network.  Once you login, and you can do that automatically, it is a folder whose contents get synced with a server in the cloud.
[07:30] <Wiesshund> the_fool look in usr/share/backgrounds/cosmos a script file like that will change it through out the day
[07:30] <RealEyes> hey guys i was just wondering of some good themes and also wanted to ask whats good to do after I've got compiz set up?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> !theme | RealEyes
[07:31] <the_fool> Wiesshund, thakns, I'll look into it - think it would be hard to alter?
[07:31] <red2kic> RealEyes: Clearlooks. :)
[07:31] <Wiesshund> the_fool nope easy to alter. very simple format
[07:31] <RAX_bg> ActionParsnip: no, its 3d im talking about WoW
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> RealEyes: use your system is a good thing to do before after and during setting up compiz
[07:31] <RealEyes> whats clearlooks?
[07:31] <the_fool> Wiesshund, awesome well off i go :)
[07:31] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: I think this is what i want
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> RAX_bg: could be tricky, it'll lag like crazy
[07:32] <cgtobi> ActionParsnip: yeah, I thought about that but as I'll pass that installation(image) to a friend who is not that much of a linux guy he'll be better of with the gui version :)
[07:32] <RealEyes> i am using my system, eventhough i still use win7 to play SCII
[07:32] <cgtobi> ActionParsnip: but thanks for that suggestion
[07:32] <PythonPup> Try it.  It is free for 1 gig of data.  At least, I think that is the free limit.
[07:32] <Wiesshund> SCII?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> RAX_bg: you could run wine in a very small windowed desktop and run it over a forwarded ssh, or you could vnc. Either way its gonna suck
[07:32] <red2kic> RealEyes: "sudo aptitude install gnome-themes" -- Oh wait. You should have that installed already. Look in Themes (in Appearance).  Clearlooks.
[07:32] <DasEi> RealEyes: clearlooks is a theme for gnome
[07:33] <Wiesshund> RealEyes have you tried starcraft2 under wine?
[07:33] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: the other thing is that i want the folder to be visible from a windows based machine will that be possible with ubuntu one
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> cgtobi: if it never moves and will always use a wired link, the gui will never be used
[07:33] <RealEyes> clearlooks is ugly :/
[07:33] <RealEyes> I was thinking something dark maybe blue?
[07:33] <RealEyes> transparent
[07:33] <RealEyes> and I'd like to keep the open/close buttons on the left lol
[07:33] <cgtobi> ActionParsnip: true
[07:33] <RAX_bg> ActionParsnip: the client machine will be windows based so dont need of wine
[07:34] <PythonPup> RAX_bg.  I don't know.  I don't use windows.  The client is all in Python, so it should be possible.  Give me a minute and I'll see what I can find out.
[07:34] <RAX_bg> ActionParsnip: but how do i do it over ssh?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> RealEyes: there are lots of themes in the links ubottu gave, there's also the bisigi ppa with a few themes too
[07:34] <red2kic> RealEyes: shiki-brave-theme
[07:34] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: ty
[07:35] <Wiesshund> RAX_bg the load times etc in wow will be kind of crappy running the shared directory across the internet
[07:35] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, Evidently, it does nott work on Windows at present, but someone is working on it.  http://www.geek.com/articles/news/ubuntu-one-cloud-storage-coming-to-windows-20100125/
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> RAX_bg: the windows system will need putty and xming, xming must be running and putty to allow forwarded x apps. Openssh-server will need installing on the server side and port forwarding will be needed if you use a router
[07:35] <red2kic> What is the applet that allows me to add network up/down to Gnome Panel?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: nm-applet
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> ?
[07:36] <tik> hi
[07:36] <Wiesshund> red2kic the system notification widget does that
[07:36] <RealEyes> where can i find that shiki brave theme?
[07:36] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: That's for Notification Area?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: indeed
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: you can enable and disable interfaces as you need
[07:37] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, So, look at dropbox for now I guess.  I don't trust them as much as Ubuntu One.  You will have to evaluate them and see if you trust them.
[07:37] <xangua> RealEyes: in the repository
[07:37] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: An example --> http://tinyurl.com/24ckk3d
[07:37] <xangua> sudo apt-get install shiki-colors gnome-colors RealEyes
[07:38] <red2kic> Wiesshund: See what I mean? Traffic monitor.
[07:38] <Wiesshund> red2kic right click the bar theres one of those in the applets too
[07:39] <RealEyes> i feel like i've hit a wall with conky
[07:39] <RealEyes> <.<;
[07:39] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: ok ill check that
[07:39] <oops> wow
[07:39] <oops> chi
[07:39] <oops> oops
[07:40] <red2kic> Wiesshund: I don
[07:40] <Wiesshund> red2kic right click, add to panel , system monitor. set prefs network load
[07:40] <GarbageMobileDev> ActionParsnip Whats the best you think
[07:41] <red2kic> Wiesshund: I don't want charts. I want to see the numbers with my eyes. :o
[07:41] <mtm> Whats the best linux OS
[07:41] <mtm> besides Fedora
[07:41] <hermanlf> Anyone know how I can install the beam up animation plugin for compiz?
[07:41] <mtm> :)
[07:41] <PythonPup> mtm, the one that serves your needs.
[07:41] <red2kic> mtm: You're in #ubuntu -- We'll say Ubuntu. ;O
[07:41] <kvio04> Ubuntu is not letting me create new partitions in gparted. The error is "/dev/sdc1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!" however, dev/sdc1 does not exist
[07:42] <mtm> LOL
[07:42] <kvio04> Any way around it?
[07:42] <Gnea> kvio04: use a livecd
[07:42] <kvio04> Gnea: this /is/ a livecd :/
[07:42] <mtm> Okay, my needs are iphone and web design
[07:42] <xangua> hermanlf: just activate 'animations add-on' in compizconfig seting maanger
[07:42] <Gnea> kvio04: so what is /dev/sdc1 being used by?
[07:42] <PythonPup> kvio04, what do you get from    sudo fdisk /sdc
[07:43] <hermanlf> xangua: I have, but that animation doesn't seem to be there.  Let me double check.
[07:43] <PythonPup> kvio04, oops, make that    what do you get from    sudo fdisk /dev/sdc
[07:43] <xangua> animation¿
[07:43] <Gnea> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc perhaps?
[07:43] <kvio04> No devices are listed
[07:43] <PythonPup> Gnea, even better.  I usually run it and then do a p.
[07:44] <kvio04> No partitions, rather
[07:44] <kvio04> I see the columns but they're empty
[07:44] <hermanlf> xangua, well hell, there it is lol.  Now even more animations have shown up.  I could have sworn I only had a few just a minute ago.
[07:44] <PythonPup> Then gparted can't make a partition, because the system does not see the drive, kvio04
[07:44] <Gnea> kvio04: well something isn't right
[07:44] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: i looked for dropbox but wont it make a folder on botth machines which folder will sync automatically and always have the same contents
[07:44] <kvio04> The system does see it. The drive is listed, just no partitions
[07:44] <kvio04> I'll pastebin it
[07:44] <greezmunkey> *Q* is there an _accurate_ system monitor out there that doesn't scew results by virtue of its own overhead?
[07:45] <Gnea> probably an illusionary process
[07:45] <Wiesshund> red2kic apt://netmon-applet
[07:45] <`blackmk4`linux> is there a command to write the current mounting setup to fstab
[07:45] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, That is in fact the only thing it does.
[07:45] <red2kic> !info netspeed | Wiesshund Actio
[07:45] <Gnea> `blackmk4`linux: not in one fell swoop, no. it has to be done by hand.
[07:45] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: yes but this will cost me alot of disk space which the so called client machine doesnt have
[07:45] <`blackmk4`linux> christ.
[07:46] <`blackmk4`linux> i have 60 drives mounted
[07:46] <Gnea> `blackmk4`linux: the way it should be done, to avoid problems.
[07:46] <`blackmk4`linux> this will take forever
[07:46] <red2kic> Wiesshund: This was it. :O
[07:46] <kvio04> PythonPup, Gnea: http://pastebin.com/xS6jgSB8
[07:46] <Wiesshund> red2kic that one works too, other one is just s simple text in out
[07:46] <Gnea> `blackmk4`linux: you could possibly script it
[07:46] <RealEyes> I feel bored with ubuntu, any suggetions?
[07:46] <el_seano>  Go with arch!
[07:46] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, That part is right.  I did not know you had the disk limit problem.  I might look at sshd then.  I have not set one up yet, but it should do what you want.
[07:46] <`blackmk4`linux> if you are bored with ubuntu
[07:46] <el_seano> that's what I'm planning, anyway.
[07:47] <`blackmk4`linux> i hope you are making money doing it
[07:47] <el_seano> :(
[07:47] <`blackmk4`linux> because you know more than anyone else
[07:47] <kvio04> PythonPup, Gnea: Both drives are listed there -- just no partitions under sdc
[07:47] <Gnea> `blackmk4`linux: what's that supposed to mean?
[07:47] <kvio04> PythonPup, Gnea: I tried rewriting the MFT again from scratch, which also seems to make no difference
[07:47] <PythonPup> kvio04, OK, you just don't have a partition table.
[07:47] <`blackmk4`linux> what that means
[07:47] <`blackmk4`linux> is that if he is bored he isn't learning anything
[07:48] <Gnea> kvio04: that shows that /dev/sdc is a 320G disk that hasn't been used yet
[07:48] <greezmunkey> RealEyes: pick a project, then see it through - like learning bash scripting. That'll keep you thinking.
[07:48] <`blackmk4`linux> if he's not learning anything then either he isn't trying new things or he knows everything
[07:48] <PythonPup> kvio04, try   sudo fdisk /dev/sdc
[07:48] <kvio04> PythonPup: I've recreated the MFT five or six times trying to recover this thing
[07:48] <Gnea> RealEyes: tried any other distros?
[07:48] <kvio04> Gnea: The drive was being used, it had four partitions until today
[07:48] <RealEyes> I'm trying to learn bash but I don't know where to tart.
[07:48] <RealEyes> start* lol
[07:48] <kvio04> Gnea: rewrote the MFT for other purposes
[07:48] <PythonPup> kvio04, Are you trying to recover data on a drive that had some problem?
[07:48] <kvio04> PythonPup: This is a different drive from that one
[07:48] <RealEyes> It looks like art to me, the bash shell.
[07:48] <Gnea> kvio04: what's the MFT?
[07:48] <`blackmk4`linux> bash as in scripting?
[07:48] <kvio04> PythonPup: Same computer, different drive
[07:49] <RealEyes> I haven't tried other distros.
[07:49] <Gnea> RealEyes: try 'hello world'
[07:49] <RealEyes> I'd like to get conky working and -- whats hello world?
[07:49] <`blackmk4`linux> i suggest you write a motd that gathers some info from the system every time you ssh in
[07:49] <kvio04> Gnea: there were 4 partitions on here and a Ubuntu install failed, so we rebooted the machine from livecd and tried to create a new master file partition from gparted
[07:49] <Gnea> RealEyes: that's your problem. I suggest debian and slackware.
[07:49] <xangua> !ot
[07:49] <kvio04> Gnea: now it's like this on two different computers
[07:49] <RealEyes> Gnea, just curious why you're suggesting that?
[07:50] <Gnea> RealEyes: "hello world" is the most basic program in any programming language in the world.
[07:50] <`blackmk4`linux> they require more messing around to get up and running
[07:50] <Gnea> RealEyes: it's designed to print "hello world" to the screen and exit
[07:50] <Gnea> RealEyes: because you asked.
[07:50] <kvio04> PythonPup: http://pastebin.com/SSntbqs7
[07:50] <PythonPup> kvio04,   Run  sudo fdisk/dev/sdc    and choose option o to write a new partition table.  Depending on what it says, you may have to reboot as the next step.
[07:50] <Gnea> RealEyes: there's nothing wrong with suggesting it.
[07:50] <RealEyes> I mean, whats good about debian and slackware?
[07:50] <xangua> !ot
[07:50] <xangua> .......................
[07:50] <Gnea> xangua: shut up
[07:50] <xangua> better leaving
[07:50] <Gnea> RealEyes: what's wrong with them?
[07:50] <PythonPup> kvio04, I did not say to do a -l
[07:51] <xangua> Gnea: please stop
[07:51] <kvio04> PythonPup: ok, one moment
[07:51] <`blackmk4`linux> what is good about slackware, in particular, is that you aren't all given a happy fun time into linux
[07:51] <Gnea> xangua: welcome to /ignore
[07:51] <`blackmk4`linux> you get to learn how to configure the system from command line / figure out little niggles with hardware you have
[07:51] <RealEyes> I'm just asking, what're they all about? How are they different from ubuntu?
[07:51] <Wiesshund> I used to love slackware back in the day, had it living with dos (zipslack)
[07:51] <xangua> RealEyes: there is a channel called OFFTOPIC
[07:51] <Prohibited2> o,.o
[07:51] <xangua> !ot > RealEyes
[07:51] <kvio04> PythonPup: http://pastebin.com/JmqUvuva
[07:52] <Gnea> xangua: stop abusing the bot, and this is entirely on-topic, so stop trying to play channel god.
[07:52] <`blackmk4`linux> i'm glad we have a non op playing op
[07:52] <PythonPup> kvio04, now do a     w
[07:52] <kvio04> a and w, or a "w"?
[07:52] <KB1JWQ> Let us be civil, please.
[07:52] <kvio04> suppose just w
[07:52] <KB1JWQ> !ot
[07:52] <PythonPup> kvio04, just the       w
[07:53] <rww> Gnea: xangua is right. This channel is for Ubuntu support. Discussion of other distros is offtopic for it. Drop the attitude.
[07:53] <Gnea> RealEyes: may I PM you?
[07:53] <RealEyes> Yes :S
[07:53] <RealEyes> xD
[07:54] <Wiesshund> `blackmk4`linux that brings back memories. trying to figure out how exactly to make X work and make kde useful, doing most stuff at a console and thinking bitchX high color :)
[07:54] <kvio04> PythonPup: http://pastebin.com/cxx1QxBT -- still failing in gparted, though
[07:54] <guntbert> RealEyes: for your original question see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:55] <`blackmk4`linux> seriously, weiss
[07:55] <`blackmk4`linux> i loved those days
[07:55] <PythonPup> kvio04, reboot the computer now.  If that does not do it, your drive or controller is bad.
[07:55] <`blackmk4`linux> rofl
[07:55] <`blackmk4`linux> i learned a lot more back then, nothing worked right
[07:55] <RealEyes> guntbert, thx
[07:56] <kvio04> PythonPup: what about the DOS-compatible mode and the invalid flag warnings?
[07:56] <guntbert> RealEyes: have fun :)
[07:56] <PythonPup> kvio04, don't worry about them.
[07:56] <kvio04> PythonPup: any other suggestions in the event this doesn't work? drive is only a few weeks old, and it was working last night
[07:56] <Gnea> rww: my apologies, didn't see how it was OT since Ubuntu is based on Debian, but oh well.
[07:56] <kvio04> PythonPup: problems seem to have been spurred solely by gparted
[07:57] <RealEyes> i just typed in 'man intro'
[07:57] <RealEyes> lol
[07:57] <root__> hi
[07:57] <Wiesshund> `blackmk4`linux heh youd spend hours just trying to poke at your .bitchx and .ircrc to try to get it actualy usuable on more than one channel. if not days
[07:57] <PythonPup> How old is the computer, kvio04?  Could it have a bios that does not support LBA48?
[07:57] <`blackmk4`linux> ahaha
[07:57] <xangua> root__: not a goo idea entering as (sic) root
[07:57] <xangua> good*
[07:57] <guntbert> !ot | Wiesshund `blackmk4`linux
[07:58] <kvio04> PythonPup: the drive was working fine last night --- and now it's doing this on two machines of varied age and model
[07:58] <Wiesshund> yes ubottu :(
[07:58] <kvio04> PythonPup: can't be bios or else it wouldn't have worked in the first place, i presume
[07:58] <`blackmk4`linux> i really must wonder why people that aren't helping others do nothing but police the channel
[07:58] <PythonPup> kvio04, varied does not tell me much.
[07:58] <`blackmk4`linux> either way, fun times.
[07:58] <`blackmk4`linux> later, weiss
[07:58] <PythonPup> kvio04, I would probably run spinrite on the drive.  But, reboot first.
[07:59] <PythonPup> kvio04, spinrite is a commercial, proprietary app.  But, I build enough PCs that I bought a copy.
[08:00] <PythonPup> I wish there were something open that worked half as well as spinrite.  Beter would even be better, but it would be nice to have something basic.
[08:00] <ArghArgh200> Hey, I seem to have removed some categories from the Main Menu on the Desktop. How would I go about getting these back?
[08:01] <PythonPup> System/Preferences/Main Menu is what I'd use, ArghArgh200
[08:01] <ArghArgh200> ...I removed that...
[08:01]  * ArghArgh200 smacks his head on his desk
[08:01] <Wiesshund> ArghArgh200 right click, pick edit menu, click revert ?
[08:01] <xangua> ArghArgh200: right clic in the menu> edit
[08:01] <ArghArgh200> okay, I'll try that.
[08:02] <ArghArgh200> be right back
[08:02] <ArghArgh200> ...
[08:02] <ArghArgh200> It won't open a rightclick menu
[08:03] <rww> ArghArgh200: press Alt-F2, type   alacarte   in the box that comes up, run it
[08:03] <kvio05> PythonPup: sorry, I disconnected. two things did come to mind though
[08:03] <MACscr> anyone running colorzilla for firefox with their 64bit ubuntu system? Its driving me nuts that i cant get that plugin to work and i normally use it on a daily basis
[08:03] <kvio05> PythonPup: the specific partition it says is in use (/dev/sdc1) was a 500mb /boot partition before failure. also, the drive is USB. would either of those factors play a role?
[08:04] <PythonPup> kvio05, I don't see how.
[08:04] <kvio05> PythonPup: not possible that the livecd automatically is doing something with /boot on startup?
[08:05] <meral_k> hi all!
[08:05] <PythonPup> The live CD does not alter your hard drives automatically.  That would be a real big nono.
[08:05] <kvio05> PythonPup: if it were something simply just wrong with the drive itself..it seems odd to me that gparted would specifically identify /dev/sdc1 as the problem (even when there is no 1)
[08:05] <Wiesshund> kvio05 can you plug the drive in after boot?
[08:05] <LUCHO_2385> hellooooooooo :D
[08:05] <kvio05> Wiesshund: very good idea, i'll try that right now (or actually someone else will, i'm doing this all via teamviewer)
[08:06] <PythonPup> kvio05, did you reboot?
[08:06] <meral_k> i see new updates now "linux 2.6.32-24". but i already use this version of linux. so what should i do now ? can we check which version of linux i use from terminal ?
[08:06] <kvio05> PythonPup: was waiting on a response from the person physically there
[08:06] <Wiesshund> kvio05 i mean if you think the livecd is trying to do something with /boot on it. im thinking not but no harm in checking
[08:06] <kvio05> PythonPup: will respond with result shortly
[08:06] <razz11> i installed freenx and I see x11vnc  server under applications > internet, is that normal? and I already have a custom ssh keys setup between the server and the client. which I use regularly to connect to the server. I guess I will not need one more. can someone point me in the right direction as to how to set up freenx
[08:07] <PythonPup> meral_k,   uname -a   will show your current kernel.  It must be a minor update.
[08:07] <rww> meral_k: PythonPup's right, it is. It's a security update that came out today.
[08:07] <meral_k>  rww:  PythonPup: ok thanks!
[08:08] <Wiesshund> razz11 its normal to see x11vnc server there, cant answer the other
[08:08] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: sry smth happened with my internet
[08:09] <PythonPup> razz11, I have not used it recently, so I better let someone else help.  I use VNC all the time.  Freenx is preferred for remote control of remote systems, but I don't do that.
[08:09] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: anything found on my problem? I looked for sshd but it doesn't seem to be the kind of software i need
[08:09] <razz11> Wiesshund: thnx,
[08:09] <razz11> PythonPup: I use vnc, it's inefficient, and sluggish. even with compression
[08:10] <Wiesshund> razz11 x11vnc is the only one i found that would work with compiz and desktop effect
[08:10] <razz11> PythonPup: what server do you run, vino?
[08:10] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, There are several options.  Are these computer both at home or the same location?
[08:10] <razz11> Wiesshund: so freenx uses x11vnc. am I right?
[08:10] <Wiesshund> razz11 i believe so
[08:11] <razz11> k
[08:11] <PythonPup> razz1, I used the default one under System/Preferences/Remote Desktop.  On xubuntu, I setup vino.
[08:12] <Wiesshund> PythonPup only downside of that one is if the server is running compiz and desktop effects enabled, the screen doesnt update. If you can get the user to disable that stuff it works but..
[08:13] <PythonPup> razz11, freenx may fall back to vnc, but it's default protocol is much better.  That is why it is preferred for remote systems.  VNC control of a machine in a remote location can be painful.
[08:13] <LUCHO_2385> how can I edit a .pub file in ubuntu?
[08:13] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: no they both are part of one network but every computer of this network has real IP so i cant make something like LAN sharing, but what i want is to be able to see a folder like i see it when its shared in LAN because i want to use its contents without having the files on the client machine. is this possible?
[08:13] <KB1JWQ> LUCHO_2385: file $file.pub
[08:13] <KB1JWQ> What's it say?
[08:13] <LUCHO_2385> .pub is a publisher file
[08:13] <razz11> PythonPup: it's vino, I find it very sluggish even without any desktop effects? vinagre was shockingly buggy, so moved to remmina, its very good
[08:13] <PythonPup> Wiesshund, Yes, I disable compiz on machines I want to control.  Who needs it on a server, anyway?
[08:13] <KB1JWQ> OpenOffice perhaps.
[08:14] <ArghArgh200> I still can't restore the main menu items to my desktop...
[08:14] <LUCHO_2385> I cannot
[08:14] <xangua> LUCHO_2385: scribus maybe¿
[08:14] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, what is the ping time to the other machine?
[08:14] <LUCHO_2385> there's no option to open a .pub
[08:14] <xangua> ArghArgh200: right clic to the panel> add> menubar
[08:15] <LUCHO_2385> scribus dosn't have that option neither
[08:15] <PythonPup> razz11, I guess I'll have to try remmina.  Thanks.
[08:15] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: standat ping packet or a big one
[08:15] <aruntomar> is it possible to aggregate 2 ppp connections?
[08:15] <ArghArgh200> xangua, it doesn't work
[08:16] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, standard ping.  Let it do a few packets to get the average.
[08:16] <xangua> ArghArgh200: it doesn't work what¿ are you running netbook remix¿
[08:16] <RAX_bg> PING 85.217.188.5 (85.217.188.5) 1400(1428) bytes of data.
[08:16] <RAX_bg> 1408 bytes from 85.217.188.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=11.2 ms
[08:16] <RAX_bg> 1408 bytes from 85.217.188.5: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=11.0 ms
[08:16] <RAX_bg> 1408 bytes from 85.217.188.5: icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=9.98 ms
[08:16] <RAX_bg> this is with big
[08:16] <FloodBot2> RAX_bg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <ArghArgh200> xangua, yes
[08:16] <xangua> !panels | ArghArgh200
[08:16] <xangua> try to restore panel settings then ArghArgh200
[08:16] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: you can, mlppp is for that, but to be effective it needs to be done at both ends.
[08:16] <Wiesshund> PythonPup server no, but if your doing something like remotely helping an end user or helping the kid with a collage paper etc, sometimes your stuck with thier desktop effects
[08:16] <PythonPup> razz11, I did setup freenx for one person a couple of years ago.  It gave great performance, even though the computers were in different cities.
[08:17] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: well on packet size of 1400 bytes its around 10ms
[08:17] <LUCHO_2385> nobody???
[08:18] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, i tried doing that, the problem that i'm facing is that although i get the same gateway for both the ppp connections, what should be my default route and via which device
[08:18] <razz11> PythonPup: trying to setup nx, let you know when  I get it right, thnx
[08:18] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, That is a little slow.  You miight try setting up a samba server on the linux machine and sharing a directory to the other machine.  Depending on how much data you transfer, it might be OK.
[08:18] <LUCHO_2385> is opening .pub impossible in ubuntu?
[08:19] <RAX_bg> how to make the samba shared folder visible for the other machine
[08:19] <songer> hello
[08:19] <LUCHO_2385> hello songer
[08:19] <Wiesshund> ok im out, tired.
[08:19] <rgevaert> u
[08:19] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, I was afraid you might ask that.
[08:20] <LUCHO_2385> I need to open a .pub file... Any option???
[08:20] <RAX_bg> well im lets say noob
[08:20] <dr0id> btw, I hope I can run more than 1cron jobs anytime, right ?
[08:20] <greezmunkey> LUCHO_2385: check this thread: http://forums.techguy.org/linux-unix/870637-urgent-open-pub-documents.html
[08:20] <songer> how can i set dame album of a song?
[08:21] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, The remote machine is Windows.  Right, RAX_bg
[08:21] <songer> to see on my player?
[08:21] <LUCHO_2385> I'll check. thanks
[08:21] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: yes that's correct
[08:21] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: the mlppp process sets up a virtual interface. When the mlppp connection is up, check in ifconfig to see what the system calls it.
[08:22] <dr0id> btw, I hope I can run more than 1cron jobs anytime, right ?
[08:22] <balr0g> hello guys, can anyone help me? im having issues on updating my kernel to 2.6.35 ... this is my grub.cfg : http://pastebin.com/rSNfn4Tv and this is the error booting the new kernel: http://pastebin.com/HEUR71mG can anybody help me please ? any clues?
[08:22] <rww> dr0id: yes, you can have as many as you want
[08:22] <dr0id> rww: thanks , that's awesome :)
[08:22] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, there is no virtual interface, i guess, my isp doesn't support mlppp
[08:23] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: there is the proviso! Both ends, remember?!
[08:23] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, can i use linux bridging concept to achieve this ?
[08:23] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, So, on their side, they will just browse for a windows share.   Let's say your machine is 123.234.56.78 and you call the shared area gamespace.   There are several ways they can do it.  I usually go to a command prompt and type    net use k: //123.234.56.78/gamespace
[08:24] <rounder> alow
[08:24] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, or maybe they put the slashess the other way.
[08:24] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: if you are trying to increase bandwidth by cobbing two desperate internet connections together - don't waste your time. You will have no end of problems with it.
[08:24] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, On your side, you just install samba nad setup a share.
[08:25] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: its the other way in win. my way to connect from win host is go to run and type \\IP\foldername
[08:25] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: i shared it with right click->sharing options
[08:25] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, oh :(
[08:25] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: It's just the way it rolls.
[08:25] <RAX_bg> because when i tried to install samba it said its already the newest version
[08:26] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, i thought may be with some other networking concept i could achieve this
[08:26] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, OK, then do it that way.
[08:26] <RAX_bg> another question
[08:26] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: do i need to configure the router
[08:26] <balr0g> hey guys, can anyone help on solving update kernel issue?
[08:26] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: i mean what port is samba using
[08:26] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, Then, just edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and add your new share and you are set.
[08:27] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, basically the client saw this kind of setup somewhere, those guys are using different 3G usb devices, and combining the network bandwidth
[08:27] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, Router?  Do both machines have public IP addresses.  You said that earlier.
[08:27] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, now he wants us to combine 2 or more 3G usb devices for uploading purposes
[08:28] <RAX_bg> well the router im behind does and the client machine has its own public IP
[08:29] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: There are two concepts, aggrigation and load balancing - you want load balancing.
[08:29] <PythonPup> Samba is not the most secure thing.  I don't suggest people expose it over the internet.  I thought y'all were in the same building.
[08:29] <KB1JWQ> PythonPup: Could always VPN it, but that's still ugly.
[08:30] <PythonPup> KB1JWQ, That is better than exposing your samba server to the world.
[08:30] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, ok. let me reconfirm the steps with u for mlppp, let me know if i'm doing something wrong
[08:30] <KB1JWQ> Yeah, but it's still something of an ugly hack.
[08:30] <KB1JWQ> I'd rather use something else for sharing files across a WAN.
[08:31] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, If your router is good enough, you can set it to only allow the samba ports from his IP address.  That would be pretty safe.
[08:31] <LUCHO_2385> bye bye
[08:32] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: yes i can do that but what ports the samba uses
[08:32] <TiK> or iptables
[08:32] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, i created 2 different files via pppconfig and tested them individually and they are working, i then added multilink in the 2 files created earlier
[08:32] <giantpune> can somebody help a sister out with some ubuntu mimetype stuff?  i want to associate files with the extension ".dol" with a program i wrote.  but by default in ubuntu they show up as "vnd.microsoft.icon" files.  where does ubuntu get this from and where can i change it?
[08:32] <disse> can anybody help me? I'm on a live CD
[08:32] <disse> http://codepad.org/h6CBpz9W
[08:32] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, then i start the ppp connection on both the files via pon command
[08:32] <disse> why he doesn't knows lvm? lvm2 is installed
[08:32] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: also as i want to run online game do i need to forward its ports too
[08:32] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: you won't be using mlppp to do load balancing - it will be an iptables, or squid excercise
[08:33] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, samba uses Port 135/TCP, Port 137/UDP, Port 138/UDP, Port 139/TCP, Port 445/TCP
[08:34] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, i can do load balancing with iproute2 as mentioned in lartc, haven't tried it with iptables or squid
[08:34] <RAX_bg> PythonPup:  ty and last what about the smb.conf file what do i need to add there is it something like that [foo] 	
[08:34] <RAX_bg> path = /home/bar
[08:34] <RAX_bg> read only = no
[08:34] <RAX_bg> guest ok = yes
[08:34] <FloodBot2> RAX_bg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, m i following the steps for mlppp correctly? or m i doing something wrong there
[08:34] <PythonPup> RAX_bg, I see something about letting high ports outgoing through the firewall.  Most firewalls do that anyway.  I have not setup samba exposed to the internet.  Someone else may comment on that.
[08:35] <th0r> giantpune: I think that is defined in the mimetypes, so you might try starting there. But I have never edited them so I am not sure
[08:35] <RAX_bg> PythonPup: ok ill play around with it ty very much
[08:35] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, the point is that if mlppp works then it's great, but it doesn't , then what are my options, like iptables or squid
[08:35] <PythonPup> RAX_bg,  a bunch of stuff.  I don't have my samba template here.
[08:36] <giantpune> thats where im looking th0r.  buth theres liek 2000 different files and folders for mimetypes
[08:37] <giantpune> and the ones that are names vns.microsoft.blabla say "do not edit, this is automatically generated..."
[08:37] <balr0g> hey guys, anyone knows to solve kernel update issues?
[08:38] <xangua> balr0g: what issues¿
[08:38] <balr0g> xangua, im having issues on updating my kernel to 2.6.35 ... this is my grub.cfg : http://pastebin.com/rSNfn4Tv and this is the error booting the new kernel: http://pastebin.com/HEUR71mG can anybody help me please ? any clues?
[08:38] <xangua> balr0g: 2.6.35 ¿¿ are you compiling¿¿
[08:39] <balr0g> xangua, yes
[08:39] <xangua> i got 2.6.35 from a ppa
[08:39] <xangua> compiling for me is like........damn i am so lazy
[08:39] <balr0g> xangua, i need to compile to select special options from menuconfig
[08:39] <Aemaeth> Hey everyone, my phone used to work with the wireless manager in gnome, but now when i plug it in it doesn't do anything.  File transfer from phone to computer and vice versa works, so data should but there's no way for me to access the settings, what's going on here?
[08:40] <SwedeMike> balr0g: it couldn't find the root file system, there are a lot of different reasons why it wouldn't be able to do that so it's not nearly enough information.
[08:40] <disse> can anybody help me? I'm on a live CD
[08:40] <disse>   http://codepad.org/h6CBpz9W
[08:40] <disse>  why he doesn't knows lvm? lvm2 is installed
[08:41] <balr0g> SwedeMike, i just follow README instructions... i extract then i do... make menuconfig ... make ... make modules_install install ... reinstall grub ... its all
[08:41] <TiK> question: I have an asus laptop.. when I close it and reopen it the monitor is dark and I have to reboot.. why?
[08:41] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: when you asked if it was possible to "combine" two ppp links, I responded with "mlppp" - once you described your desired result I told you that mlppp is not the tool you need. You want to set up a load-balancing application with iptables. This is not a task for the faint of heart, but it does work.
[08:41] <SwedeMike> balr0g: try makig a kernel package instead, then you might get all initrd etc as well.
[08:41] <mikubuntu> my friend (who is 94) called me today to come over .. all of a sudden, his internet wasn't working.  he has some kind of 'support' contract (and i use the term loosely) and had already been on the phone with them, and they only wanted $130 to diagnose it for him.  i popped in the keychain usb i just made the other day, and set the bios to boot from the usb.  a minute later, we were running live, and online.
[08:42] <th0r> SwedeMike: did you update grub after installing the new kernel?
[08:42] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, thanx for ur help and giving me direction, i'll now focus my efforts on iptable load balancing
[08:42] <SwedeMike> th0r: wrong person.
[08:42] <balr0g> SwedeMike, can you point me on what or how do kernel package?
[08:42] <th0r> oops
[08:42] <balr0g> th0r, im the issue one lol
[08:42] <balr0g> th0r, yes i update it...
[08:43] <mikubuntu> i let him play around with firefox (he wanted to know where the internet's explorer was) and determined that he could prolly learn to live with 'filefox'.
[08:43] <Aemaeth> mikubuntu, chrome is probably the closest to IE
[08:43] <ugliefrog_> !ubotu
[08:43] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: I was doing some googlin' and found some "shortcuts" using iproute, don't waste your time there. That method is not reliable.
[08:43] <balr0g> th0r, here: http://pastebin.com/rSNfn4Tv you can see 2.6.35 recognized... but booting this is the error: http://pastebin.com/HEUR71mG
[08:44] <TiK> question: I have an asus laptop.. when I close it and reopen it the monitor is dark and I have to reboot.. why?
[08:44] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, oh :(
[08:44] <tensorpudding> Probably it interprets closing the lid a hibernating
[08:44] <Aemaeth> i have an asus too, when i close mine and it suspends the webcam light comes on
[08:44] <KB1JWQ> Disable that. :-)
[08:45] <xangua> TiK: system>preferences>screensaver , disable: block screen
[08:45] <ghoulsblade> hi, i've got a weird "find" process in top&ps ax with a long param list und user nobody, what can i do to find out where it comes from ?
[08:45] <xangua> no, that wasn't....
[08:45] <ghoulsblade> (it uses a lot of resources it seems)
[08:45] <Jordan_U> balr0g: Why are you trying to compile your own kernel?
[08:45] <llutz> ghoulsblade: updatedb running?
[08:46] <xangua> system>preferences>energy TiK
[08:46] <balr0g> Jordan_U, i need to activate some especial options to use BSD Process Accounting feature (ELSA)
[08:46] <Jordan_U> ghoulsblade: pstree may help
[08:46] <th0r> balr0g: according to the grub file you have the kernel installed on the second partition of the second drive (1,1) but the error says grub is looking on the first partition of the first drive (0,0)
[08:46] <cgtobi> gotta go, cya
[08:46] <balr0g> th0r, thata makes sense, how to solve it?
[08:46] <MaRk-I> balr0g: did you,   sudo update-initramfs -c -k 'yourkernelversion.3bla" before doing the grub update?
[08:46] <ghoulsblade> thanks, will give it a try.  updatedb : yes, two of them even, but i see it everytime i look, shouldn't be running all the time right ?
[08:47] <th0r> balr0g: that is the new grub file, so I don't know how it is defined. In the old days I would just edit menu.lst
[08:47] <balr0g> MaRk-I, no man, will try it...
[08:47] <mikubuntu> so, he decided he was ready to try the new system.  alas, when i started the installer, it would not get past the first partitioning, and i got a message that it could not set up the ext4 file.  i wish i had save the whole message, because it mentioned also something about raid apparently.  i spent about an hour in one of these channels, but couldn't make any headway on what the problem might be.  i've never had a hangup like this b
[08:47] <mikubuntu> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/473324/
[08:48] <aruntomar> greezmunkey, so if iptables is unreliable should i look for proxy load balancing via squid
[08:48] <mikubuntu> this is some output from a command they had me run today, but i don't know if its useful or not
[08:49] <TiK> xangua: ok thanks
[08:49] <greezmunkey> aruntomar: no, I said the iproute script shortcuts are unreliable. I finally found a good article for you, check this for iptables: http://serverfault.com/questions/93678/load-balancing-nat-ing-multiple-isp-connections-on-linux
[08:50] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, It looks like you have no free space to put linux.  You will need to add a new drive or wipe one of those or uses a live CD or use partition magic.
[08:50] <RealOpty> hi
[08:50] <TiK> xangua: i have no system / pref / energy
[08:50] <TiK> energy
[08:50] <RealOpty> what kind code is this lol? 0x102
[08:50] <RealOpty> is that hex or what?
[08:50] <KB1JWQ> RealOpty: That's a hex code.  Not a lol.
[08:51] <th0r> RealOpty: yes, that is hex
[08:51] <RealOpty> k
[08:51] <xangua> TiK: 'gestor de energía' here in spanish, i don't know how is it called in english
[08:51] <RealOpty> any one have a hex to asci link?
[08:51] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: i specified to wipe xp, and to use the whole disk for ubuntu, there shouldn't be any lack of space ??
[08:51] <PythonPup> Tik - use a little imagination.  Sustem /Preferences /Power Management.
[08:52] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, can you get in front of his system and still use IRC?
[08:53] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, Knowing the exact error would help.
[08:53] <mikubuntu> i'm home now, have to go back tomorrow nite.  i can get on irc using the livecd as i ws today
[08:53] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, the 4 gb drive is probably a pen drive.  Is that right?
[08:54] <greezmunkey> RealOpty: use the calculator, set it to "programming" then use the buttons at the top right to convert back and forth.
[08:54] <mikubuntu> guess the best bet will be to take my laptop over there tomorrow so i can check into the channel
[08:54] <TiK> PythonPup: thats the first place  looke settings seem to be correct
[08:54] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: yes, its a lexar 4gb usb
[08:54] <TiK> looked*
[08:55] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: its the first boot usb i ever made, and it runs live just fine
[08:55] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, I have not made a USB boot.  So, you are ahead of me there.
[08:55] <Aemaeth> is there a command like iwconfig for cell phones?
[08:55] <fishcooker> how access hidden share by pyneighboorhod
[08:55] <fishcooker> ?
[08:55] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: but can't get the install past the ext4 creation
[08:56] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, You probably picked the wrong option, but I am guessing.  You want remove all partitions and create default layout.
[08:56] <mikubuntu> PythonPup:   k, i check back in tomorrow when i'm in front of the machine again .. thanx!
[08:56] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, Now, I would do something else first.
[08:57] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: ok, whats that
[08:57] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, Is there data on either drive he wants to preserve?
[08:57] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: no data to preserve
[08:57] <balr0g> MaRk-I, it seems to be solved man... tks sudo update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.35 and sudo update-grub was the solution ...
[08:57] <MaRk-I> balr0g: nice
[08:58] <PythonPup> OK, then you are OK.  This is probably one of those dynamic raid setups that Windows supports.  mikubuntu, you need to erase the partitions on both drives.  That may be related to your problem.
[08:58] <yondie> hye , i found out in LTS 10.04 my X won`t start if there is no monitor attached to it
[08:58] <yondie> hwo can i solve it?
[08:59] <PythonPup> yondie, connect a monitor?
[08:59] <PythonPup> yondie, that was a trick question, right?
[08:59] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: what TWO drives?  does his machine have two drives?
[08:59] <Aemaeth> PythonPup, sometimes easier said than done, I had old soviet system, she was like landwhale, killed three men
[08:59] <yondie> nope
[08:59] <yondie> PythonPup:  i want to start it headlessly
[08:59] <yondie> but i need the X
[08:59] <yondie> to run
[09:00] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: is that RAID thing something that's on his drive that's impeding the setup?
[09:00] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, yes.  The fdisk -l shows two 80 gb drives.  If you open it and don't see two hard drives let us know.
[09:00] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, maybe.
[09:01] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: so, should i run 'darik's boot and nuke' on it before i try the install again?
[09:01] <Walex> yondie: configure it with an explicit X file. It does not start because by default it autodetects the monitor and autoconfigs it.
[09:02] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, you could.  The ubuntu installer should handle it, but wiping the drive could be a fallback position.
[09:02] <Antonio_> aloha folks..
[09:02] <PythonPup> yondie, Yes, that is what I was going to suggest.  create a xorg.conf file
[09:02] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: ok, i see you tomorrow .. thanks, i has to get to sleep
[09:02] <Antonio_> Is anyone familiar with a program that I can use to convert a dvd to an avi/mp4/etc...and allow me to select the individual chapters/scenes that I want?
[09:03] <PythonPup> mikubuntu, I won't be here Thursday, but others will be.
[09:03] <TiK> PythonPup: http://tinypics.com/r/2zxyrt/4
[09:03] <llutz> Antonio_: handbrake
[09:03] <mikubuntu> PythonPup: k, thx again
[09:03] <TiK> PythonPup: http://tinypic.com/r/2zxyrt/4 sorry
[09:03] <PythonPup> TiK, page not found
[09:04] <TiK> my browser keeps crashing
[09:04] <PythonPup> TiK, that page is asking me to upload a picture.
[09:04] <TiK> nevermind
[09:04] <TiK> :(
[09:04] <Benkinooby> the ubuntu netbook remix is just having a different unser interface... or are there also differences "under the hood"?
[09:05] <TiK> PythonPup: it was just a pic of power management.. dim display is unchecked
[09:05] <TiK> on AC
[09:05] <PythonPup> Benkinooby, a few changes, but mostly the same.
[09:05] <Jigal> Hello can someone tell me how to get rid of the annoying screen lock on 10.04 every 5 minutes or so int atuomatically locks the screen. Dont want that
[09:05] <PythonPup> Jigal, configure your screensaver.
[09:05] <Slart> Jigal: turn off the screensaver?
[09:05] <TiK> Jigal: power management
[09:06] <PythonPup> Jigal, System / Preferences / Screensaver
[09:06] <Benkinooby> PythonPup: i use a lenovo ideapad s12. don't think that there will be remarkable performance changes
[09:06] <PythonPup> 5 minutes is the default for screensaver, so it is probably that.
[09:06] <Jigal> PythonPup, Slart TiK thanks
[09:07] <PythonPup> Benkinooby, no remarkable changes.  Now, on the arm version they are working on, there are more changes.  That is because the arm has problems with some apps, like firefox.
[09:08] <PythonPup> TiK, I don't know where you are now.  Are you trying to get a picture up?  I don't really know your root problem.
[09:10] <PythonPup> Benkinooby, The main thing about the netbook remix is that it is designed to run one screen app at a time.  You can get around it, but normally, apps come up full screen.  That is nice for a netbook, usually.
[09:10] <kenwiliest> how do i see the root account in 10.04
[09:10] <Black_Prince> !sudo
[09:10] <Benkinooby> PythonPup: ok, thank you. i prefer to have serveral apps on my screen...
[09:11] <TiK> PythonPup: still goes dim// no big deal
[09:11] <PythonPup> Benkinooby, that is why I setup some netbook users with the standard Ubuntu.   Good luck.
[09:11] <massimo_> concert by the sea
[09:12] <PythonPup> TiK, I don't understand.  Are you saying the screen dims?  That is probably a screensaver setting.
[09:12] <gio1983> hello everyone :)
[09:12] <e-DIO-t> does anybody know why ErrorDocument 503 /some/html/page isn't working...even if when i try to load the "urlmappedinvhost.com" it gives me error 503?
[09:12] <PythonPup> TiK, under Power Management in the screensaver settings.
[09:13] <e-DIO-t> [ps: modify /error/HTTP_SERVICE....is not working anyway]
[09:13] <gio1983> I'm working on a minimalistic ubuntu environment, where most of the tools available in a standard ubuntu installation are not available
[09:13] <gio1983> I have the following problem
[09:13] <PythonPup> kenwiliest, As the bot said.  By default, there is no root user on an Ubuntu system.  It is safer that way.
[09:13] <TiK> PythonPup: what am I looking for again? :(
[09:14] <Walex> gio1983: have you had a look at ubuntu for netbooks?
[09:14] <gio1983> the system automounts usb storage devices, and I would like to be able to read the idVendor and idProduct
[09:14] <MaRk-I> yondie: read post #605 and below plus next page might give you an idea http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9244160#post9244160
[09:14] <gio1983> @Walex it's an ad-hoc thing not developed by us :\
[09:14] <kenwiliest> pythonpup, wow, i was too lazy to read that... thanks... reading hanbook right now...
[09:14] <gio1983> my problem is this
[09:14] <PythonPup> TiK, Go to screensaver preferences and look under power management.  I don't see the same options as you, because I am using a desktop machine.
[09:14] <gio1983> I have /proc and /sys
[09:15] <kenwiliest> i could fo swore in 8.04 or 9 series you could set a pass for root??
[09:15] <Slart> kenwiliest: setting a root password isn't supported in here
[09:15] <TiK> PythonPup: that was the first place I looked.. I give up
[09:15] <gio1983> I can list the mounted devices using /proc/mounts
[09:15] <Slart> !root | kenwiliest
[09:15] <gio1983> and, for example I can find out that /dev/sdb1 is a vfat partition
[09:15] <gio1983> coming from an usbkey
[09:16] <TiK> I think i's a bug
[09:16] <PythonPup> kenwiliest, The way root is used on Ubuntu has been the same since the first Ubuntu release.  You can setup a root account.  On servers, this is fairly commonly done.
[09:16] <gio1983> now, how can I find out idVendor and idProduct?
[09:16] <TiK> bc its switching from AC to battery power.........
[09:16] <gio1983> knowing this?
[09:16] <llutz> gio1983: lsusb
[09:17] <gio1983> but how can I make the binding /dev/sdb ---> Bus 002 Device 015: ID 0930:1400 Toshiba Corp.
[09:17] <PythonPup> TiK, is that your problem?  That it is switching from AC to battery.
[09:17] <star3am> hallo guys, anyone can hep with php5-mcrypt module ?
[09:17] <Benkinooby> PythonPup: i was wondering about the difference between ubuntu minimal install and ubuntu alternate install. i read about both of them, but i don't get the difference. looks like the minimal cd has only the most crucial packages, so everything has to be download from web for installation. the alternate cd is like the normal installation cd, but it runs with text interface and gives more chices during installation. is that coorect?
[09:17] <gio1983> lsusb does not tell which device file is associated to a certain device :\
[09:17] <Tohuw> is there a way to make an fstab include just for a certain user? e.g. user joe logs on and mounts everything in /etc/fstab, user john logs on and mounts everything in /etc/fstab AND another fstab-like file.
[09:17] <gio1983> does it?
[09:17] <llutz> gio1983: read "dmesg" output
[09:18] <Tohuw> Benkinooby: you are correct. The "extra choices" are related to setting up software RAIDs
[09:19] <PythonPup> Benkinooby, I think you have it.  The alternate gives you a full system.  It has more install options and is what I normally use.  The minimal install is used for servers and virtual machines, mostly.
[09:19] <gio1983> @llutz dmesg does not tell this info, unfortunately
[09:19] <TiK> PythonPup: Ive looked in the options under power managemet.. and when I am on AC I want it to be bright and when I lose my lid I want it to remain bright. when I a nnot on AC I want to display tobe dimmed so I checked "Reduce Backlight Brightness" under on battery per. Now whneer I close my lid and wakeup my computer "on AC power" its dim
[09:19] <Benkinooby> Tohuw: ok thank you.
[09:19] <TiK> lose/close
[09:19] <PythonPup> Benkinooby, the important option for me on the alternate installer is the ability to setup encrypted disks.
[09:19] <Slart> Tohuw: I think fstab is parsed when the machine boots.. not when a user logs in.. so no.. I doubt you'll be able to work with the fstab that way
[09:20] <TiK> seems lik a big to me pythonpup
[09:20] <TiK> bug
[09:20] <llutz> gio1983: here it does
[09:20] <Benkinooby> PythonPup: so if a want ubuntu with flxbox (and no gnome; fluxbuntu seems to be dead) best is to use alternate cd
[09:20] <Slart> Tohuw: you could write a script that runs at login which mounts drives and such
[09:21] <llutz> gio1983: after plugin the stick in,  dmesg logs lines like :[ 6494.035797] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 15753215 512-byte logical blocks: (8.06 GB/7.51 GiB)
[09:21] <Tohuw> Slart: that's what I assumed... is there a way to make an fstab entry only mount for a certain user? I need to shake off the brain-dust in this area, but I seem to remember you can specify for each mount instruction who can actually access it. The issue is that I have a cifs share I want to mount, but only one user should be able to get to it (the share mounts in their home anyway)
[09:21] <TiK> PythonPup: anyway tanks for trying I am posting this as a bug
[09:21] <gio1983> I get this for example
[09:21] <gio1983> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/AWMMNKES
[09:21] <MACscr> is there anything i can do to automatically keep my gnome ftp bookmark connections alive? Im constantly having to refresh the folder when i want ot open a file. Most of hte time i have to do it a couple times
[09:22] <TiK> Tohuw: make a script and allow them to mount with sudo
[09:22] <rgnr> bgj
[09:22] <TiK> idk...
[09:22] <llutz> gio1983: it only gives raw-device (sdc) in your case
[09:22] <Slart> Tohuw: I think your best option is to set permissions on the mounted drive so that only the specified user can access it.. ie it will still be mounted but only some user(s) will be able to read the files
[09:22] <TiK> thats what I'd do
[09:22] <sylon> hi my phone shows up as 2 mass storage drives on windows (phone internal memory and microSD card) but on linux it only shows one (the internal memory), any ideas whats up?
[09:22] <TiK> Slart: yeah good idea
[09:23] <ElBano> help!
[09:23] <PythonPup> Benkinooby, The alternate CD will install gnome.  The kubuntu alternate CD will install KDE.  You would want the server CD, probably.  Then there is a package called fluxbox.  I have not tried it lately.  The lubuntu setup is what I use for a light desktop.
[09:23] <ElBano> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294251
[09:23] <randhol>  Hi. I have setup to autoimport photos from camera, that works great. However, I get asked if I want to import from SD card every time I turn on the printer-scanner as it has a SD card inside. Is there a way to remove this question? I only want to import fram cameras automatically
[09:23] <gio1983> @llutz uhm that tells me the device [sdc] but it does not tell the usb bus thing where I can find idVendor etc..
[09:24] <Jordan_U> gio1983: "lsusb" or "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/"
[09:24] <Tohuw> Slart: over the course of our conversation, I've realized I'm worrying about a non-issue: it doesn't matter who logs in, this share is only accessible by this user (hence the stored credentials file) and the share point is only accessible by them. It doesn't matter that it mounts for everyone; they still can't get to it. File this in /mountains-out-of-molehills
[09:24] <PythonPup> TiK, sorry I could not do more.  I need a laptop handy, I guess.  I have one, but it has no battery, so it really acts like a desktop.
[09:25] <llutz> gio1983: there is no "one command" to show you all that info. you have to look at several places if you need it
[09:25] <Benkinooby> PythonPup: lubuntu... i'll have a look at it, thx for the hint. instead of using server, maybe the minimal install would be better, due to the fact that only the packages i explicitly choose are installed
[09:25] <gio1983> @Jordan_U I can't use lsusb but the other suggestion might be interesting
[09:25] <gio1983> @llutz I know unforttunately
[09:25] <gio1983> in a previous project I was using gudev
[09:26] <gio1983> but here I can't use it :\
[09:26] <gio1983> it's Android :P
[09:26] <Tohuw> Benkinooby: if you're aiming for a very lean system, and understand just what you want, the minimal install is perfect, I've found
[09:26] <ph8> hey all, anyone know how i can fix a corrupted MBR on an NTFS Drive from ubuntu?
[09:26] <llutz> gio1983: write an udev-rule to assign a fixed device to your usb-id
[09:26] <PythonPup> Benkinooby, the minimal install would be fine.  Just expect that you will be adding a lot of basic stuff.  That is a decent way to start.\
[09:26] <frogzoo> I get a protracted beep on shutdown at the message "unmounting temporary file systems" - didn't use to do this - any clues to fix it?
[09:27] <Tohuw> ph8, the best way to fix it is with the FIXMBR command on any WINNT or higher install CD. Other ways are not as "safe".
[09:28] <ph8> can i make fixmbr available in a normal install rather than only in the 'recovery console'?
[09:28] <Benkinooby> Tohuw, PythonPup : thank you. thought the alternate cd would also give me choice about the packages to be "initally" installed.
[09:28] <PythonPup> frogzoo, Did you add some samba mounts recently.  I know it takes longer to shutdown, if I don't unmount my samba share.  I don't remember a beep. though.
[09:29] <PythonPup> Benkinooby, nope.  No package install options.
[09:29] <frogzoo> PythonPup: no it's a different issue to yours - the beep is really loud & intrusive - I figure it as an alarm of some sort
[09:29] <Tohuw> Benkinooby: PythonPup: It's a shame though, because ubuntu-server does give you those options; the alt cd really should too
[09:30] <Benkinooby> Tohuw, +1 ;)
[09:30] <MaRk-I> gio1983: lshw ??
[09:30] <Tohuw> frogzoo: it may be completely unrelated to unmounting the shares. have you tried fsck'ing, checking temperatures of CPU/hardware, checking fan states, etc.?
[09:31] <Tohuw> s/shares/drives
[09:31] <PythonPup> Tohuw, The alternate installer just uses the standard debian installer.  I like it the way it is, but if you want a change, you would need to convince debian, not ubuntu.
[09:31] <Tohuw> frogzoo: a memtest may also be in order. PythonPup: thank you for that information; I didn't know that.
[09:32] <PythonPup> The alternate installer disk has memtest.  Or, it did the last time I looked.
[09:32]  * Tohuw acknowledges that "ubuntu" is an African word for "I can't configure Debian"
[09:32] <frogzoo> Tohuw: I guess a fsck may well be in order, tks
[09:32] <Jordan_U> gio1983: This is really the wrong channel :)
[09:32] <Tohuw> PythonPup: It's on the Live CD as well
[09:33] <PythonPup> memtest is small.  I am glad they include it.
[09:33] <gio1983> @Jordan_U I know, but since android is basically linux with some minor change
[09:33] <jihad> Has anyone been able to use itunes and mount an itouch or iphone?
[09:33] <frogzoo> debian has no one to blame but themselves for ubuntu stealing their thunder
[09:33] <gio1983> I was trying to understand if some one had a similar issue
[09:33] <gio1983> in linux
[09:33] <gio1983> since in android it is more difficult to find answers
[09:33] <Jordan_U> gio1983: No, android is an operating system that happens to use the linux kernel :)
[09:34] <Tohuw> gio1983: this is not an Android support channel. Android has many major differences from Ubuntu. You would be best off pursuing an Android-specific support channel.
[09:34] <frenzied_coder> Is there a driver for broadcom 4357 wireless (64bit)? Didn't find it here http://is.gd/e3OLJ or on broadcom's website.
[09:34] <gio1983> sure
[09:35] <gio1983> however thanks for the good insights :)
[09:35] <gio1983> you were all very kind
[09:36] <Kozzy_> hi what is the faster version of ubuntu or ubuntu based distro still active today?
[09:36] <thebandoffice> THERE'S A PENIS IN MY BUTT HELP ME
[09:36] <thebandoffice> WHAT'S THE COMMAND TO REMOVE IT
[09:36] <Jordan_U> gio1983: I wasn't joking by the way, other than the kernel android shares almost nothing in common with a normal GNU/Linux system.
[09:36] <FloodBot2> thebandoffice: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <ikonia> thebandoffice: calm down
[09:36] <ikonia> thebandoffice: drop the language and that attitude
[09:36] <Kozzy_> im trying to get a quick one for my toshiba nb305
[09:36] <ikonia> thebandoffice: this channel is for ubuntu support ONLY
[09:36] <ikonia> !coc > thebandoffice
[09:36] <MaRk-I> !broadcom | frenzied_coder
[09:37] <ikonia> !guidelines > thebandoffice
[09:37] <gio1983> @Jordan_U well it's not totally true, many of thepieces are there, we ported many applications too
[09:37] <Kozzy_> any help?
[09:37] <gio1983> @Jordan_U but you're right in saying that there are also many differences
[09:38] <uncle_sin> hello
[09:38] <Kozzy_> guess not :(
[09:39] <bullgard4> '~$ locate gdm-simple-greeter.schemas; /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gdm-simple-greeter.schemas; /usr/src/gdm-2.30.0/gui/simple-greeter/gdm-simple-greeter.schemas.in; /usr/src/gdm-2.30.2.is.2.30.0/gui/simple-greeter/gdm-simple-greeter.schemas.in'. The »file« command in all 3 cases says: "ASCII English text." What does the file name extension '.in' stand for?
[09:39] <ikonia> bullgard4: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[09:39] <ikonia> bullgard4: extensions cacn mean anything you want
[09:40] <psycho789> if youre running wubi is it just running an application inside of windows
[09:41] <bullgard4> ikonia: hm
[09:41] <dhecode> huy
[09:42] <PythonPup> Jordan_U, The guy in charge of Android is big on Java.  He wanted everything to run under their own version.  I have seen one netbook that offered a choice of Android or Ubuntu.
[09:44] <psycho789> if you install ubuntu from wubi are you really just running an application inside of windows
[09:44] <psycho789> or is it really ubuntu
[09:44] <dhecode> hello
[09:45] <mtm> the real deal
[09:45] <psycho789> so its no different?
[09:45] <mtm> not really
[09:45] <dhecode> hello
[09:46] <mtm> you choose what to boot in
[09:46] <mtm> ubuntu is in c:/ubuntu
[09:47] <psycho789> is it slower
[09:47] <mtm> depends what you have
[09:47] <psycho789> ok
[09:47] <psycho789> thanks
[09:48] <spencer> Hello, I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a good Antivirus for Ubuntu
[09:49] <decomp> hello all!
[09:49] <spencer> and how susceptible[?] the OS is to viruses
[09:49] <jussi> !virus | spencer
[09:49] <jetienne> q. is there a way to automatically  install all the dependancies of a .deb (not in a repository)
[09:49] <mtm> hi jussi
[09:50] <jussi> hi mtm
[09:50] <mtm> guess what. i know what i did wrong
[09:50] <jussi> :)
[09:50] <decomp> Hi all, I changed me display manager to wdm and then back to gdm and now no display manager starts at all. I tried dpkg reconfigure-gdm, and opening synaptic and reinstalling gdm. no change. Can anyone please help?
[09:50] <mtm> its 1.0.2 now
[09:50] <spencer> okay, and is there any risk of a virus caught on Linux, to spread to Windows?
[09:51] <mtm> i installed 1.0.1 and i insralled in seperate files
[09:51] <Tohuw> spencer: the whole point is you won't "catch" a virus on Linux, unless you do something silly, like run an unknown executable as root
[09:51] <mtm> and the all that time for something stupid
[09:52] <spencer> I can't get viruses from the internet?
[09:52] <PythonPup> spencer, look at clamav.  If you use it, be sure to install freshclams to get updated signatures.
[09:52] <mtm> ..
[09:52] <PythonPup> spencer, Linux can get viruses.  But, it is much less likely than a Windows system.  Windows practically encourages them.
[09:53] <spencer> Pythonpup, so true.
[09:53] <decomp> Hi all, I changed me display manager to wdm and then back to gdm and now no display manager starts at all. I tried dpkg reconfigure-gdm, and opening synaptic and reinstalling gdm. no change. Can anyone please help?
[09:54] <spencer> Alright thanks all, I'm out. Night
[09:54] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: *sigh* Same old agruement. The security model in Vista and above does not "encourage" users, in fact it's the best it's ever been. The majority of virues on Windows are now PEBKAC type errors, i.e. phishing and trojans.
[09:54] <NightKhaos> Anyways:
[09:54] <kenwiliest> decomp, you probably have to edit/add a line to a file like rc.conf or some shit
[09:55] <NightKhaos> Is it possible to do a multiple alais... i.e. I want to alais all binaries start with arm-none-eabi to arm-elf.
[09:55] <kenwiliest> decomp, i suggest you direct your attention to something like... the ubuntu documentation emphasizing  that topic
[09:55] <PythonPup> spencer, I just removed rootkits that had been installed on 30 Linux systems.   So, Linux can get them.  I don't know how they got in.  Someone else is doing the backtracking on that.
[09:56] <jetienne> q. i got a source package .dsc, _source.build, _source.change, and .targz, how can i recompile it ?
[09:56] <decomp> kenwiliest: The rc.conf file (/etc/rc.conf) is the core system configuration file used in Arch Linux.
[09:56] <mtm> So theres nothing suspicious about not having any trojans for over a year?
[09:56] <decomp> is that also used in ubuntu?
[09:56] <kenwiliest> decomp,  yes....
[09:56] <PythonPup> NightKhaos, I was being a little metaphorical.  Saying Vista is the most secure Windows is not a very high standard.  They still include IE, so they are not serious about security.
[09:56] <kenwiliest> also in freebsd too
[09:56] <kenwiliest> i think it's a universally vital file.
[09:57] <frenzied_coder> MaRk-I, thanks. works now.
[09:57] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: I'll grant you that, however IEs security model is improving.
[09:57] <kenwiliest> i've never even used arch linux
[09:57] <MaRk-I> frenzied_coder: yw
[09:57] <kenwiliest> what's arch linux's emphasis?
[09:57] <jasonwryan> kenwiliest: rc.conf in ubuntu? really?
[09:58] <decomp> anyone else having trouble logging into ubuntu forums?
[09:58] <PythonPup> kenwiliest, arch is for Linux users that want package management like BSD.  That seems to be the dominant, but not only characteristic.
[09:58] <mtm> lol
[09:58] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: still got more holes in it than swish cheese, but IE8 can throw punches in terms of security with Firefox. However, there are other reasons (rendering) that mean I discourage the use of IE anyways. It could be the most perfectly secured, sandbooked browser out there, however if they don't fix their rendering engine... meh.
[09:58] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: however, Offtopic... aliases, any ideas?
[09:58] <kenwiliest> pythonpup, as in ports?
[09:58] <mtm> Opera #1
[09:59] <jasonwryan> kenwiliest: as in pacman...
[09:59] <PythonPup> NightKhaos, I am sorry.  I missed the first part about aliases.  I am in favor of them, but that is not your problem, I bet.
[10:00] <KrisWood> Hello everyone
[10:01] <PythonPup> NightKhaos, So, could you repeat the original question?
[10:02] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: multiple alasies... I have two precompiled twochains on different machines, one of which I don't have admin access too so I can't update the toolchain. On one they are called arm-none-eabi-, however on the other they are called arm-elf-. I don't want to have to create a whole lot of symlinks in /usr/local/bin if I can avoid it, but I want to make sure that when I execute arm-elf-gcc it points to arm-none-eabi-
[10:02] <NightKhaos> gcc for example, that or do you know a way to make my makefiles contextual (i.e. it terms which gcc is valid and then uses that one)
[10:02] <PythonPup> kenwiliest, yes, as in ports.
[10:02] <kenwiliest> pythonpup, what are they called in arch?
[10:02] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: sed s/twochains/toolchains/ ... some typo.
[10:02] <jetienne> dpkg-source -x blabla.dsc was my answer :)
[10:02] <kenwiliest> pythonpup, the ports that is
[10:03] <KrisWood> I've got a silly question... I'm trying to download themes off the gnome-look and they're all in archives without any file extension to indicate what format they're in... Any ideas?
[10:03] <ogunay> hi, i use ubuntu lucid, i've some torrent files, and i could't change their ownership from root to user via #chown -hR <username:groupname> <torrentfile>
[10:03] <PythonPup> kenwiliest, That detail is too small for me to remember.  It has been 6 months since I tries arch.  I try a lot of Linux distros.
[10:03] <NightKhaos> ogunay: where you root (or at least sudoing) when you executed that chown?
[10:03] <erUSUL> ogunay: where are those torrent files stored ?
[10:03] <kenwiliest> pythonpup, which is your favorite?
[10:04] <jasonwryan> kenwiliest: ABS (Arch Build System) and they are called pkgbuilds
[10:04] <alsem> Does anyone have experience with Ubuntu file sharing on a wireless network?
[10:04] <kenwiliest> jasonwryan, thanks a lot.
[10:04] <ogunay> erUSUL: these are on /Torrents , i've changed the location to anohter partition /media/disk
[10:04] <jasonwryan> kenwiliest: np
[10:04] <jasonwryan> alsem what's up?
[10:04] <erUSUL> ogunay: what filesystem ?
[10:05] <ogunay> erUSUL: ext4
[10:05] <PythonPup> kenwiliest, For most uses, I pick Ubuntu.  It is what I use as my main desktop and once I make a few tweaks, it does quite well.
[10:05] <kenwiliest> PythonPup, IC. nice
[10:05] <erUSUL> ogunay: what error do you get from chown ?
[10:05] <ogunay> erUSUL: no error, i've checked the file, the same ownership (root)
[10:06] <KrisWood> ah ha, it's a gzip archive, just had to right click for properties :)
[10:06] <PythonPup> NightKhaos, The only thing I would suggest is to write a script to create the symlinks for you.  Then, it is not much effort to keep it up to date.  Have the script inspect the  arm-none-eabi list to be sure it creates all the needed symlinks.
[10:06] <alsem> I have two computers both running U10.04.  I have followed the instructions on "SimpleHelp".  I have the infoamous little hand under the file.  But when I go to Places --> Network I don't see any files at all.
[10:07] <erUSUL> ogunay: very odd; but without an error message or some other clue i can not know what is going on ...
[10:07] <jasonwryan> alsem: are you using nfs?
[10:08] <ogunay> erUSUL: if i try it via gksudo nautilus, i change to user, then the menu becomes again to the root :\
[10:08] <alsem> Jasonwryan:  I am using the regular U10.04 files.  I think nfs would be on a Windows system?
[10:08] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: for bin in /usr/local/arm/bin/arm-none-eabi*i; do ln -s $bin /usr/local/bin/${bin:-none-eabi-=-elf-}; done ?
[10:08] <jasonwryan> alsem: no, nfs is for 2 linux boxes: http://mybeni.rootzilla.de/mybeNi/2007/how_to_set_up_nfs_and_how_to_share_files_in_a_local_network_with_ubuntu_linux/
[10:08] <azlon1> how can i enable vnc?
[10:08] <azlon1> !vnc
[10:08] <ralf_e> what is the easiest way to create a .deb package from a checked out source project (with patches), f.e. http://git.gnome.org/browse/gedit/ , for installation in my own ubuntu system?
[10:09] <Gnea> alsem: NFS is actually a unix component, SMB/CIFS is windows networking
[10:10] <PythonPup> NightKhaos, Something like that.  I don't know your need or how the list changes to know if you need to remove the existing symlinks first.  Are items likely to disappear from the list?
[10:10] <erUSUL> !checkinstall
[10:10] <alsem> Jasonwryan:  Let me go play with that page and see if I can get anywhere.  Thanks I'll let you know later how it worked out.
[10:10] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: fairly unlikely to change. I'll know if/when I upgrade the toolkit, so I can redo the links and delete the broken symlinks.
[10:10] <jasonwryan> alsem: np: it works for me
[10:11] <__goo__> Hey, which ubuntu distro is best suited for a 256 mb RAM system?
[10:12] <iceroot> __goo__: lubuntu
[10:12] <Gnea> __goo__: xubuntu
[10:12] <PythonPup> azlon1, System/Preferences/Remote Desktop to enable the server.   Install xvnc4viewer on the client side.
[10:12] <iceroot> __goo__: not xubuntu, its taking the same as ubuntu
[10:12] <__goo__> Gnea, i dont like XFCE
[10:12] <__goo__> iceroot, ah ok
[10:12] <Gnea> __goo__: neither do i
[10:12] <Gnea> ah, didn't know about lubuntu
[10:13] <iceroot> __goo__: have a look at lubuntu (lxde)
[10:13] <PythonPup> __goo__, I use regular ubuntu on systems with 256 meg of ram and they seem fine to me.
[10:13] <justin22885> i have a question... id like to install ubuntu command line with a light weight desktop to a USB flash drive of 16gb, what would be the recommended filesystem setup for this?
[10:13] <__goo__> PythonPup, even 10.04?
[10:13] <jasonwryan> __goo__: Crunchbang
[10:14] <PythonPup> __goo__, If I was going to make heavy desktop use of one, I would look at ubuntu or crunchbang.
[10:14] <TiK> hey
[10:14] <Gnea> PythonPup: with gnome? surely you jest
[10:14] <PythonPup> __goo__, yes, even 10.04
[10:14] <__goo__> its not heavy desktop use
[10:14] <__goo__> I just wanna get my mom to use Linux
[10:14] <__goo__> and the PC is just a 800 mhz 256 mb RAM system
[10:14] <justin22885> anyone know the best way to install ubuntu to a flash drive?
[10:15] <iceroot> !usb | justin22885
[10:15] <justin22885> no iceroot.. install it TO a usb drive, not FROM, i was wondering what the optimal filesystem would be
[10:15] <the_fool> Hello all i'm working on a quick bash script to change my wallpaper on startup. Anyone know why: http://pastie.org/1076979  would return: arithmetic expression: expecting primary: "  % (24 + 1) "  ?
[10:15] <iceroot> justin22885: reread the text from ubottu
[10:15] <el_seano> man, ubottu is awesome.
[10:15] <PythonPup> Gnea, full blown gnome.  Startup is a little slow, but once it gets going, it is fine.  The system is an 800 MHz via and can't take more than 256 meg of ram.  I have a similar system with a P3/933 and 256 meg of ram and it is also ok.
[10:16] <__goo__> But i want it the distro to be easy to use, for a person shifting from Windoze
[10:16] <__goo__> PythonPup, which one u talking about
[10:16] <alsem> Jasonwryan:  I read through the article.  How will this affect smb and smbfs?  I was "using" Samba so can this run along side?  Do I need to undo Samba?
[10:16] <KrisWood> Ok new theme, I'm able to get the appearance preferences to correctly see the theme in the install menu if I rename the file with a .tar.gz extension, but it still doesn't show up in my available themes, what could cause this?
[10:16] <iceroot> justin22885: i am using ext2 on a ssd, because of the missing journal
[10:16] <PythonPup> __goo__, try ubuntu out and see what you think.  The biggest problem I have is first starting apps.  Firefox is a little slow to load, but does fine after that.
[10:17] <geese> salut tous le monde
[10:17] <__goo__> PythonPup, okie
[10:17] <jasonwryan> alsem: you only need samba if you want a windoze box o your network
[10:17] <el_seano> Firefox is always sort of slow to start.
[10:17] <el_seano> mostly why i made the jump to chrome.
[10:17] <geese> j'espere qu'il y a quelqu'un qui parle français
[10:17] <__goo__> el_seano, FF 4 is much faster
[10:17] <dlandau> Firefox 4 starts up faster.
[10:18] <bacon> chrome's search bar is more powerfull.
[10:18] <tkahn6> LOAD -e "/home/tkahn/Desktop/google.pl"
[10:18] <tkahn6> thank you xchat
[10:18] <__goo__> bacon, but FF automatically loads the best result
[10:18] <PythonPup> el_seano, true, but the security on Firefox is so much better, I would not use anything else as my main web browser.
[10:18] <el_seano> i will admit i like that FF's search bar instantly grabs your bookmarks though, rather than the quick search
[10:18] <__goo__> bacon, i dont find that in chrome, it just does a google search
[10:19] <el_seano> PythonPup: Security in what regard, if I may ask?
[10:19] <alsem> jasonwryan:  I have a windows box on the network BUT when I go to Places --> Network --> Windows  I get an error message that it can't mount the server  or get some file from it.  So I thought I'd try something simple like a Ubuntu to Ubuntu machine.
[10:19] <justin22885> apparently id need to disable journaling on ext4, add the noatime option to fstab, and use /tmp in RAM
[10:19] <bacon> __goo__: i don't know if it exist in FF, but with chrome you can search directly on the website you need with a tabulation after the site's url
[10:20] <PythonPup> el_seano, Chrome has nothing like noscript.  Chrome does not have the hooks it needs.  Browsing the web without something like noscript is just crazy.
[10:20] <bacon> __goo__: I like how browsing and search are fast with it
[10:20] <KrisWood> Hmmm is gtk2 installed by default in the latest ubuntu? no idea why these themes aren't working :-/
[10:20] <jasonwryan> alsem: sorry, I can't help with samba - I only run Linux...
[10:21] <__goo__> bacon, i c, but check out FF 4's new features - Tab Candy is pretty useful esp as i have 50 - 100 tabs open usually
[10:21] <alsem> jasonwryan:  thanks anyway!
[10:21] <PythonPup> alsem, can you post your smb.conf file for me to look at?
[10:21] <bacon> __goo__: I have maxi 15 tabs opened, but I'll try it for sure ! I don't like using all the google services (:
[10:21] <justin22885> iceroot, i am reading an article about how ext4 without the journaling is more efficient than ext2
[10:21] <bacon> __goo__: mail, reader, browser...
[10:21] <jasonwryan> alsem: s'ok: someone here will have samba chops...
[10:22] <__goo__> bacon, ok
[10:22] <justin22885> found another article giving me a list of things to edit in fstab to tweak ext4 to work properly with it
[10:22] <el_seano> PythonPup: I just heard about noscript today, actually.  What do you mean by the hooks?  That Chrome couldn't support something like noscript?
[10:22] <bacon> justin22885: may you give me a link please?
[10:22] <sussler> hey dudes
[10:23] <sussler> are there any intermittent lockup problems with intel gfx on ubuntu lucid lynx
[10:23] <azlon1> where is the .vnc folder?
[10:23] <fredfall> Is alpha 3 released?
[10:23] <sussler> i am kind of getting pissed at suse
[10:23] <alsem> PythonPup:  Where is the smb.conf file located?  Myabe I can cut and paste it?  (In case you haven't figured yet I'm kind of new to this Ubuntu)
[10:23] <PythonPup> el_seano, Yes, the developer of noscript looked at Chrome and talked to people at Google.  Chrome cannot support noscript, but may do so in the future.
[10:23] <PythonPup> alsem,   /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:23] <Gnea> alsem: most configuration files are kept in /etc
[10:24] <justin22885> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=215109
[10:24] <nebula_> help !
[10:24] <justin22885> that gives a list of tweaks, that a forum, im going to try those and disable journaling and see how it works, im using a 16gb kingston datatraveler right now with ubuntu 10.04
[10:24] <sussler> dudes, any gfx problems on lucid lynx
[10:24] <sussler> intel , 2.6.34 kernel
[10:24] <nebula_> the besy  musc player for ubuntu ?
[10:24] <el_seano> neat!
[10:25] <erUSUL> !best
[10:25] <justin22885> exaile
[10:25] <nebula_> the best ....  musc player for ubuntu ?
[10:25] <erUSUL> !player | nebula_
[10:25] <nebula_> 100x
[10:25] <alsem> PythonPup:  This is a big file but here goes=
[10:25] <PythonPup> justin22885, that may be right.  Due to my own testing, I won't use ext4 on anything other than a test system.
[10:25] <alsem> #
[10:25] <alsem> # Sample configuration file for the Samba suite for Debian GNU/Linux.
[10:25] <alsem> #
[10:25] <alsem> #
[10:25] <alsem> # This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read the
[10:25] <FloodBot2> alsem: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:25] <PythonPup> alsem, stop
[10:25] <nebula_> !net
[10:25] <justin22885> my vote goes to exaile if youre using gnome, or gtk based desktops like lxde.. or amarok if youre using KDE
[10:25] <Gnea> justin22885: looking forward to your results
[10:25] <nebula_> !firewall
[10:26] <Gothack> ...
[10:26] <PythonPup> alsem, use a pastebin.  Go to pastebin.com and post your contents.  Then put a link here in irc..
[10:27] <azlon1> does anybody know where the .vnc folder is located?
[10:27] <Gothack> so many ones
[10:27] <PythonPup> nebula_, yatm
[10:27] <shai> Hi :) I just installed Ubuntu and noticed that /etc/network/interfaces just has 'lo' defined and not eth0 ... so where is eth0 defined by default?
[10:27] <erUSUL> shai: Network Manager manages all connections
[10:28] <PythonPup> alzon1, in your home directory.
[10:28] <shai> erUSUL, I have a headless server.... where is that in a file...?
[10:29] <Gnea> shai: ubuntu-server?
[10:29] <erUSUL> shai: if you are on a server use interfaces. just add the definitions you need
[10:29] <alsem> PythonPup:  I think I pasted to large a file in here and got disconnected for a while.  Did you get the file?
[10:29] <PythonPup> nebula_, but I use vlc and a player I am writing the most.
[10:29] <GDG> hi,
[10:29] <PythonPup> alsem, use a pastebin.  Go to pastebin.com and post your contents.  Then put a link here in irc..
[10:29] <PythonPup> alsem, no I did not get it.
[10:30] <shai> Gnea, not a server per say ... just a station that I use via SSH. erUSUL I understand that I can edit /etc/network/interfaces... but currently, where is eth0 defined for the pc to be available via eth0 using DHCP? It must be written somewhere in a file, no?
[10:31] <alsem> PythonPup:  where is pastebin.com?  Is it obvious how to put a link in the irc?
[10:31] <GDG> how can I install an older version of gcc on my Ubuntu?
[10:31] <PythonPup> Use you web browser and look.  It is really obvious, alsem.
[10:31] <erUSUL> shai: no; Network manager uses gconf so maybe it is in afile somewhere but you have to use gconftool-2 or gconf-editor
[10:32] <KrisWood> This is getting incredibly frustrating....
[10:32] <the_fool> Can anyone help me with this bash script: http://pastie.org/1076979 ? I'm Learning as I go and can't figure out why I'm getting this error: /home/max/Pictures/wallpapers/.wallpaperchanger.sh: 5: arithmetic expression: expecting primary: "  % (24 + 1) "
[10:32] <mamooth> Hi there
[10:33] <justin_> anyone know how to disable journaling?
[10:33] <justin22885> annoying.. anyway, anyone know how to disable journaling?
[10:34] <mamooth> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 - With thunderbird, could someone point how to create an IMAP account. I really don't see where in the account configuration process I can select IMAP instead of POP3
[10:34] <llutz> justin22885: isn't it "noload" boot-option?
[10:34] <GDG> how can I install an older version of gcc on my Ubuntu 10.4?
[10:34] <el_seano> Can anyone recommend me some good documentation or a tutorial regarding devices and how to mount them and get information and so on?
[10:34] <llutz> mount-option*
[10:34] <justin22885> i dont know
[10:35] <justin22885> ive never disabled journaling before
[10:35] <erUSUL> the_fool: this « length=34 ; a=$(( $RANDOM % ($length + 1) )) ; echo $a » works here
[10:35] <PythonPup> justin22885, did you go to http://lmgtfy.com/ and put in disable journaling ext4
[10:35] <alsem> PythonPup:  I pasted in the message box.  the URL is  http://pastebin.com/56d8D8Xd
[10:36] <Gothack> does anybody know how to install openoffice?
[10:36] <the_fool> erUSUL, I'll try that. MInd if i keep pestering you though? Because I'll need the script to get the number for length on the fly
[10:37] <erUSUL> the_fool: #bash may be a better place to ask
[10:37] <justin22885> i have to use tune2fs to do it i believe
[10:37] <the_fool> erUSUL, ... ^_^" that's a good idea
[10:37] <PythonPup> alsem, are you going to be online a while?
[10:37] <Gothack> what does it mean...........
[10:38] <el_seano> Gothack: From the terminal, type sudo apt-get install openoffice
[10:38] <llutz> !info openoffice.org > Gothack
[10:39] <PythonPup> el_seano, The package is openoffice.org
[10:39] <el_seano> whoops, my bad.
[10:39] <KrisWood> ah ha! I need the "emerald theme manager" whatever that is... *googles it*
[10:39] <alsem> PythonPup:  Not sure how long "a while is"  It is 2:20am here so probably not very long.  If you wish you can send it to my eMail  at  alsemus@yahoo.com
[10:39] <Gothack> yeah,openoffice.org
[10:40] <Gothack> i'm learning to use xchat.....this'is my first time use ubuntu
[10:40] <PythonPup> alsem, It is 4:40am here.  You need to add a whole section at the bottom of the file.  I have that at home, and not here.  If you are still here, I'll post it to you when I get home.  It will take about 45 minutes.
[10:41] <Gothack> it is 5:40pm here..................
[10:41] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     36 2010-08-05 19:36 arm-elf-gcc -> /usr/local/arm/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc ... got it work via for file in /usr/local/arm/bin/*; do sudo ln -s $file /usr/local/bin/arm-elf-${file#/usr/local/arm/bin/arm-none-eabi-}; done
[10:41] <azlon1> when i remote (vnc) into my ubuntu machine, the vnc window on the other machine doesnt update
[10:42] <abhijit> Namaste!
[10:42] <abhijit> :)
[10:42] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: took me a while to find # operator. :(
[10:42] <PythonPup> NightKhaos, If I understood that right, then good.
[10:42] <MaRk-I> azlon1: disable compiz
[10:42] <alsem> PythonPup:  Thanks.  If I'm not here, might have gone back to bed, then just e-mail me please.   Thanks.........   Al
[10:42] <MaRk-I> azlon1: on the remote machine I mean
[10:42] <PythonPup> NightKhaos, I usually write Python scripts, not bash scripts, so I did not notice the error.
[10:43] <azlon1> MaRk-I: on the client? the client is running windows 7...
[10:43] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: figures, with the name and all.
[10:43] <PythonPup> alsem, How would I do that, alsem?
[10:43] <MaRk-I> azlon1: ah nvm then
[10:43] <rocket16> Hello all
[10:43] <PythonPup> NightKhaos, That is a pretty good clue.  I was putting together a spin of Puppy Linux with Python added.  Thence, this nickname.
[10:44] <shin_> why if I try to connect via SSL with XCHAT receive the error * Connessione fallita. Errore: self signed certificate.? (18)
[10:44] <zhang> hello,i'm new here
[10:44] <alsem> PythonPup:  Use the email   alsemus@yahoo.com
[10:44] <Gothack> zhang? are you chinese?
[10:44] <zhang> yes
[10:44] <ShapeShifter499> how do I enable my controller in ubuntu?
[10:44] <Gothack> oh my dear
[10:45] <zhang> how
[10:45] <azlon1> MaRk-I: you were right, but the problem was compiz on the host machine... thanks!
[10:45] <PythonPup> ShapeShifter499, just tell your wife she can use it.
[10:45] <Gothack> so am i
[10:45] <PythonPup> alsem, noted.
[10:45] <ShapeShifter499> PythonPup: HAHAHAHAHHAAAA    btw I'm 16
[10:45] <MaRk-I> azlon1: ahh good to know and yw
[10:45] <ShapeShifter499> xD
[10:45] <azlon1> MaRk-I: is there a way to disable compiz only when a machine connect via vnc, then restore compiz when the user disconnects?
[10:45] <alsem> PythonPup:  Thanks a lot.
[10:46] <shin_> I try to connect to irc.explosionirc.net in SSL whit port 6697 and I receive the error "self signed certificate.? (18)"
[10:46] <rocket16> !hi | zhang
[10:46] <MaRk-I> azlon1: there was a way but I dont remember ATM you can search it... has to do with some -xnodamage thing
[10:46] <Gothack> 都有多少中国的。。。。
[10:46] <zhang> thank you
[10:47] <zhang> 我是中国的
[10:47] <MaRk-I> !cn
[10:47] <PythonPup> azlon1, probably.  Look at gconf and see if there is a key to control it.  You can script changing those.
[10:47] <ShapeShifter499> MaRk-I beat me to it
[10:47] <ShapeShifter499> xD
[10:47] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: hehe, I'm getting quite good at doing inline for loops. It freaks a couple of people out cause they tend to be like "wtf did you just do?"... to quote a friend of mine "my shell foo is strong"
[10:47] <PythonPup> NightKhaos, That is a handy skill.
[10:48] <zhang> my English is very poor
[10:48] <rocket16> zhang: No problem, we all can understand you well, :)
[10:48] <PythonPup> azlon1, the program gconftool-2 is what you would call in such a script.
[10:48] <zhang> thank you
[10:48] <ShapeShifter499> zhang: your fine
[10:48] <zhang> thanks
[10:49] <zhang> Who can teach me English
[10:49] <abhijit> zhang, join ##english
[10:49] <Gothack> mine is poor... too
[10:49] <NightKhaos> PythonPup: my freakest one to date was: for file in *.s; do mv $file ${file}.old; sed s/';'/@/ ${file.old} > $file; done
[10:49] <Gothack> ##english
[10:49] <abhijit> Gothack, type /j ##english
[10:50] <MaRk-I> azlon1: read post #11 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/353126
[10:50] <Gothack> i get ie
[10:51] <sangi> Can anyone suggest a document to install ubuntu from windows
[10:51] <ShapeShifter499> how do I use my game controller in ubuntu and wine?
[10:51] <NightKhaos> sangi: in a VM or outside?
[10:51] <abhijit> !wubi | sangi
[10:51] <rocket16> sangi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[10:51] <sangi> i want to install through iso image
[10:52] <rocket16> sangi: Just use an emulator, like Nero, which supports Virtual Drive. Load the ISO, and install using Wubi.
[10:52] <zhang> I've always wanted to learn English,but always learn bad
[10:52] <NightKhaos> rocket16: or Oracle VirtualBox... :P
[10:53] <abhijit> !ot | zhang  type /j ##english
[10:53] <rocket16> NightKhaos: Certainly, :) but Virtual OSes share same RAM, hence a performance-decrease is sure, :)
[10:53] <encoder> hi all, i would like to copy my files to a FTP server (shared hosting) using a cron job. How do i pass the authentication to a script guys?
[10:53] <NightKhaos> rocket16: meh... not a problem on either of my machines.
[10:53] <NightKhaos> rocket16: but yes, that is a valid concern.
[10:54] <NightKhaos> rocket16: 4GiB and 6GiB.
[10:54] <rocket16> NightKhaos: I see.\
[10:55] <JamesWStubbs> Hello, I'm doing an Ubuntu port to the iPhone, I'm having a problem with screen rotation using Fbdev and evtouch. Both will work fine in portrait, but for screen estate reasons I need it to be landscape before I can release my images. I've added Option "Rotate" "CW" to xorg.conf, which will rotate the screen when X starts but as soon as the screen is touched the X server closes. I've also tried adding Mode "480x320" to the Display section of xorg.conf bu
[10:56] <abhijit> i installed kubuntu to external usb hdd. it shows os missing errror i need to edit grub. so where is grub in my usb?
[10:56] <abhijit> help
[10:57] <MaRk-I> abhijit: when you were installing you were supposed to add the grub to the usb to have it in the usb
[10:57] <tim__b> Anyone knowing a plugin for audacious to remove songs shorter than a given time from the playlist (like removing all songs with a playtime less then 2 minutes to get rid of intros/outros/interludes)?
[10:57] <gws> Hi, I installed latest 10.04 ubuntu release. I have Logitech wireless mouse and it does not work properly...it stucks, sometimes I can not click anywhere. Also some apps show me this error: "Could not grab the mouse". Can you help me with this problem please?
[10:57] <abhijit> MaRk-I, installing means i write kubuntu iso using unetbootin. sorry my mistake.
[10:58] <abhijit> i write kubuntu iso to external usb hdd using unetbootin. it shows os missing errror i need to edit grub. so where is grub in my usb?
[10:58] <abhijit> help
[10:58] <JamesWStubbs> Hello, I'm doing an Ubuntu port to the iPhone, I'm having a problem with screen rotation using Fbdev and evtouch. Both will work fine in portrait, but for screen estate reasons I need it to be landscape before I can release my images. I've added Option "Rotate" "CW" to xorg.conf, which will rotate the screen when X starts but as soon as the screen is touched the X server closes. I've also tried adding Mode "480x320" to the Display section of xorg.conf bu
[10:58] <MaRk-I> abhijit: ahh well it should be there if done correctly
[10:58] <abhijit> MaRk-I, it shows error operating system missing
[10:59] <kancerman> *has unetbootin -- needs to figure out how to use it ;)*
[11:00] <MaRk-I> abhijit: hhmm you should re-install it if its new, just make sure you format the usb as FAT32 and unebootin will do the rest
[11:00] <abhijit> MaRk-I, okk
[11:00] <ronank> I'm trying to boot a Eee from Ubuntu Netbook Edition on a USB stick, so that I can fix the messed-up installation on the SSD in the device, but it halts at "GRUB loading" with Error 15. Can anyone help sort this out?
[11:02] <user9> join us
[11:04] <red> hey, whats a decent mp3 encoding app? gui preferred
[11:04] <Amber_> my sudo is all messed up
[11:04] <JamesWStubbs> I've left the room
[11:04] <Amber_> can anyone help me /
[11:04] <KrisWood> hmmm I seem unable to use any emerald themes even with the theme manager....
[11:04] <demoneye> how to increase the screen resolution on ubuntu 10.04? System > Preferences > Monitor > etc. It only has 800x600, I would like it to be more then 1000x.. Can anyone be kind to assist me with it?
[11:04] <JamesWStubbs> Hello, I'm doing an Ubuntu port to the iPhone, I'm having a problem with screen rotation using Fbdev and evtouch. Both will work fine in portrait, but for screen estate reasons I need it to be landscape before I can release my images. I've added Option "Rotate" "CW" to xorg.conf, which will rotate the screen when X starts but as soon as the screen is touched the X server closes. I've also tried adding Mode "480x320" to the Display section of xorg.conf bu
[11:04] <AshyIsMe> hi
[11:04] <Laggie> Hi, I have a question about the nano editor, I have a strange problem, the text is visibly placed wrong, when I edit a line it is actually the line above I am writing on, so there is some kind of error
[11:05] <AshyIsMe> how do i enable the 64bit kernel in ubuntu 10?
[11:05] <user9> hi
[11:05] <JoshuaL> demoneye, install the hardware drivers: System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers
[11:05] <erUSUL> AshyIsMe: installing the 64 bit version of ubuntu
[11:05] <KrisWood> ah there we go, lovely :D
[11:05] <AshyIsMe> erUSUL, haha bugga
[11:06] <gws> Hi, I installed latest 10.04 ubuntu release. I have Logitech wireless mouse and it does not work properly...it stucks, sometimes I can not click anywhere. Also some apps show me this error: "Could not grab the mouse". Can you help me with this problem please?
[11:06] <demoneye> JoshuaL: I'll give a go
[11:06] <demoneye> give it*
[11:06] <red> hey, whats a decent mp3 encoding app? gui preferred.
[11:06] <erUSUL> red: ripping too ? or only encoding ?
[11:06] <user9> heloo
[11:07] <demoneye> JoshuaL: It says "No proprietary drives are in use on this system"
[11:07] <JoshuaL> demoneye, then I have no idea, sorry
[11:10] <demoneye> JoshuaL: Ok.
[11:10] <demoneye> Anyone eles could help me with it?
[11:11] <JamesWStubbs> Hello, I'm doing an Ubuntu port to the iPhone, I'm having a problem with screen rotation using Fbdev and evtouch. Both will work fine in portrait, but for screen estate reasons I need it to be landscape before I can release my images. I've added Option "Rotate" "CW" to xorg.conf, which will rotate the screen when X starts but as soon as the screen is touched the X server closes. I've also tried adding Mode "480x320" to the Display section of xorg.conf bu
[11:11] <Amber_> My Sudo is all messed up can anyone help me with it ? sudo: must be setuid root
[11:12] <ShapeShifter499> JamesWStubbs: omg to iphone
[11:12] <JamesWStubbs> ShapeShifter499: Yes
[11:12] <JamesWStubbs> ShapeShifter499: Currently only the 2G and 3G
[11:12] <ShapeShifter499> JamesWStubbs: ubuntu on an idevice would be soo win
[11:12] <JamesWStubbs> It's works nicely in landscape if I use evdev for input
[11:12] <JamesWStubbs> Works fast using icewm for the window manager
[11:13] <hiddenpearls> hey guys, this Ubuntu has mad me
[11:13] <hiddenpearls> damn, it is not installing on my laptop
[11:13] <hiddenpearls> anyone here can help me ?
[11:14] <MaRk-I> Amber_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1467656&postcount=4
[11:15] <ShapeShifter499> JamesWStubbs: too bad ipt aren't supported atm, if they were I would switch in a hartbeat
[11:15] <JamesWStubbs> ShapeShifter499: I have the iPod Touch 1g Working fine.
[11:15] <JamesWStubbs> ShapeShifter499: I need to finish sound support
[11:16] <demoneye> how to increase the screen resolution on ubuntu 10.04? System > Preferences > Monitor > etc. It only has 800x600, I would like it to be more then 1000x.. Can anyone be kind to assist me with it?
[11:16] <demoneye> hiddenpearls: why not?
[11:16]  * ShapeShifter499 has teh crappy 3gen, no iboot jailbreak, and no linux alternative os  :D
[11:16] <ShapeShifter499> *D:
[11:16] <ShapeShifter499>  D:
[11:17]  * ShapeShifter499 wants a iphone 3gen or 4 OR an android
[11:17] <Minas1> I am using Ubuntu, and 3G USB modem, how to find the modem to install?
[11:18] <neil_ubuntu> demoneye, you should install video drivers first, lspci first to verify video card
[11:18] <bibo> does anyone know why the Ubuntu forums aren't updating?
[11:19] <jpds> bibo: Howso?
[11:19] <bibo> Well I only see posts from nine hours ago
[11:19] <demoneye> neil_ubuntu: thank you, i'll give it a try
[11:19] <hiddenpearls> I have downloaded ubuntu and put it on USB and also on virtual CD
[11:20] <bibo> I've cleared my cache and gone to it on multiple computers and it still hasn't updated
[11:20] <hiddenpearls> but whenever I try to run demo
[11:20] <Somelauw> I created an alias like:  alias netbeans=~/netbeans-6.9/bin/netbeans
[11:20] <hiddenpearls> it asks me to reboot system
[11:20] <hiddenpearls> and when I reboot
[11:20] <hiddenpearls> and ubuntu starts loading
[11:20] <hiddenpearls> and it takes forever
[11:20] <Somelauw> But when I do ls netbeans it says ls: cannot access netbeans: No such file or directory
[11:20] <demoneye> running the first time, it might "take forever"
[11:21] <Somelauw> Yes, I did source .bashrc
[11:21] <Minas1> I am using Ubuntu, and 3G USB modem, how to find the modem to install?
[11:21] <ashiswin> hello
[11:21] <ashiswin> i need some help
[11:21] <hiddenpearls> demoneye: why ?
[11:21] <shamil> anyone want lubuntu 64 bit?
[11:21] <shamil> i sort of made an iso
[11:21] <ashiswin> my ubuntu, for the password fields, it should show big black circles. but now those are small. how do i make them big again
[11:21] <hiddenpearls> I tried it many times .. everytime it sucks like that
[11:22] <demoneye> I'm not sure myself
[11:22] <hiddenpearls> demoneye: how I can install it then ?
[11:22] <ashiswin> my ubuntu, for the password fields, it should show big black circles. but now those are small. how do i make them big again. Anyone has any idea?
[11:23] <neil_ubuntu> Minas1, you can try lsusb to verify modem model
[11:23] <bibo> ashiwin: are you talking about how it hides your password with the circles?
[11:23] <ashiswin> ya
[11:23] <ashiswin> the circles are now tiny instead of big
[11:23] <bibo> is that an issue?
[11:23] <Minas1> neil_ubuntu,  how can I do it?
[11:23] <ashiswin> yes bibo. sometimes i cant see if im typing
[11:24] <neil_ubuntu> Minas1, open terminal type lsusb :)
[11:24] <ashiswin> any idea how to fix it bibo?
[11:25] <bibo> certain themes do that. You could also go into your gdm as root and probably change the font size
[11:25] <aga^_^> anyone can help me to configure freeradius on ubuntu 10
[11:25] <ashiswin> bibo, im using the default theme
[11:27] <demoneye> neil_ubuntu: i typed 'lscpi' in terminal, it replyed some stuff.. USB, VGA etc etc. What am I look for?
[11:27] <Minas1> mine is netbook. I have problem with charge, how to fix it?
[11:28] <tama> hello
[11:28] <MaRk-I> Minas1: go to terminal and type: sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch , unplug the usb plug it back and unmount the folder that appears on the desktop then go to network manager it shoud appear
[11:29] <bibo> ashwin: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow
[11:29] <bibo> then logout
[11:29] <ashiswin> what will that do?
[11:29] <MaRk-I> demoneye: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:30] <bibo> it opens up the appearance settings for the login screen. You could change the font size
[11:30] <Minas1> MaRk-I,  where is the terminal? it is my first day on ubuntu
[11:30] <liuwang> what is there
[11:30] <Somelauw> I created an alias like:  alias netbeans=~/netbeans-6.9/bin/netbeans
[11:30] <Somelauw> But when I do ls netbeans it says ls: cannot access netbeans: No such file or directory
[11:30] <bibo> then when you log back in put this in a terminal
[11:30] <bibo> sudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop
[11:31] <MaRk-I> Minas1: the console/terminal
[11:31] <ashiswin> k thx bibo
[11:31] <ashiswin> i'll try that
[11:31] <Minas1> MaRk-I,  do I have to turn of the copm?
[11:31] <MaRk-I> no
[11:32] <Minas1> (
[11:32] <Minas1> I do not know the console place
[11:32] <demoneye> MaRk-I: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
[11:32] <MaRk-I> Minas1: go to menu, first entry then look for "terminal" o "gnome terminal"
[11:32] <Minas1> MaRk-I,  ok :)
[11:32] <MaRk-I> via ufff
[11:33] <bibo> you could also hit Ctrl+Alt+T to bring up the terminal
[11:34] <Gyro54> I have just removed the top panel? Don't ask why! Anyone help me put it back please.....
[11:35] <pyost> I've got a problem with UbuntuForums, could anyone confirm that it's not just me?
[11:35] <Minas1> I see
[11:35] <bibo> pyost: forums haven't updated? I'm having that problem
[11:35] <TiK> !panel
[11:36] <bibo> Gyro: If you have a panel left, right click on it, and there should be an option for new panel
[11:36] <TiK> !help
[11:36] <Gyro54> I have added a new panel but I cant find how to add the original toolbars
[11:36] <pyost> Well, that too, it seems... When I logged in, it just threw me into an infinite refresh loop :\
[11:36] <TiK> !gnome-panel
[11:36] <TiK> i forgetthe command
[11:36] <bibo> you'll have to add them in add to panel
[11:36] <hiddenpearls> anyone can help me in installing Ubuntu ?
[11:36] <TiK> Gyro54: there is a way t do it with 1 command
[11:36] <MaRk-I> demoneye: pastebin the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:37] <bibo> pyrost: servers are probably down
[11:37] <demoneye> MaRk-I: that file is empty
[11:37] <TiK> Gyro54: http://www.celsius1414.com/2006/08/31/how-to-reset-gnome-panel-to-default-in-ubuntugnome2
[11:37] <bibo> hiddenpearls: what do you need help with?
[11:37] <pyost> great, just when I needed help... thanks, bibo, at least I know I'm not the only one :)
[11:38] <Gyro54> TiK: You are a life saver!  Thanks for your help
[11:38] <bibo> pyost: hehe I actually came on here for that very reason
[11:38] <demoneye> MaRk-I: On /etc/X11, I dont seen a 'xorg.conf' file :(
[11:38] <Minas1> MaRk-I,  may I PM ?
[11:38] <bavbat> Q: i do this to compress a directory with ALL its files (incl. hidden): tar cvfz test.tar.gz /home/me/NetBeansProjects/test ... but in the created archive it contains the "me" and "NetBeansProjects" directories - how can i avoid that?
[11:38] <hiddenpearls> bibo: I boot with USB
[11:38] <k0sh> why o why when i pxeboot my ubuntu it tells me that it didnt found /lib/modules/2.6.32-21generic/modules.dep even tho that file exists in nfs exported dir, plus other distros netboot just fine, only ubuntu gives e such error and goes into kernel panic
[11:38] <MaRk-I> Minas1: PMs are blocked sorry
[11:39] <Minas1> MaRk-I,  ok
[11:39] <pyost> bibo: unfortunately, my problem is of such nature that it probably can't be solved through irc :D
[11:39] <TiK> cd into the dir first
[11:39] <hiddenpearls> bibo: it takes forever to load from USB ot CD
[11:39] <TiK> k0sh: cd into tedir first
[11:39] <Minas1> MaRk-I,  I typed apt-get install usb-modeswitch
[11:39] <TiK> the*
[11:39] <Minas1> it asked are you root?
[11:39] <hiddenpearls> bibo: I tried both methods
[11:39] <Minas1> I typed yes
[11:39] <vak> hi all
[11:40] <MaRk-I> Minas1: it's:    sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch      <<<<
[11:40] <k0sh> TiK: what?
[11:40] <Minas1> ok
[11:40] <bibo> hiddenpearls: It takes a long time depending on your computer. Just wait a while and then you should be able to install it (~15 minutes max I've had for an old computer)
[11:40] <TiK> k0sh: cd into the dir you want to compress or the one before it
[11:40] <justin22885> well everyone... i made the neccessary FSTAB changes, and tweaked ext4 for running on a USB drive
[11:40] <reverse821> hello
[11:40] <hiddenpearls> bibo: I have 1.86 dual core + 4GB ram
[11:40] <bibo> pyost: it'd be easier to solve on irc though
[11:40] <k0sh> TiK: ????
[11:41] <hiddenpearls> and it took 2 hours
[11:41] <reverse821> anyone wanting to help me fix my BT headset? 8)
[11:41] <k0sh> TiK: why o why when i pxeboot my ubuntu it tells me that it didnt found /lib/modules/2.6.32-21generic/modules.dep even tho that file exists in nfs exported dir, plus other distros netboot just fine, only ubuntu gives e such error and goes into kernel panic
[11:41] <hiddenpearls> and nothing but loading with background
[11:41] <MaRk-I> demoneye: S3 VIA cards are how can I say it barely supported and tricky you can reconfigure your X but might leave you without it if you dont do it right
[11:41] <TiK> k0sh: cd /home/me/NetBeansProjects/ && tar cvfz test.tar.gz test
[11:41] <bibo> hiddenpearls: How long did you wait? It takes a while, but once it's installled it's very fast
[11:41] <hiddenpearls> bibo: not asking any option just loading with background
[11:41] <justin22885> theres actually an immediate change in performance, EASILY noticed
[11:41] <vak> Kino captures DV-video OK, but exports(encodes) it into ugly interlaced video. Did anyone successfully cope with it?.. Does de-interlacing really work in Kino?...
[11:41] <k0sh> TiK: how does it relate to pxebooting???
[11:42] <TiK> eeer
[11:42] <TiK> i ment bavbat
[11:42] <hiddenpearls> bibo: it took 2 hours
[11:42] <k0sh> lol
[11:42] <TiK> sorry k0sh
[11:42] <k0sh> :D
[11:42] <k0sh> k, np
[11:42] <pyost> bibo: well, it doesn't seem to be that common, since I couldn't google a solution - to cut a long story short, I had to cancel a burning task in Brasero because it got stuck, and now the drive is dead in both ubuntu and windows
[11:42] <TiK> :D
[11:42] <fredfall> When does alpha 3 come?
[11:42] <demoneye> MaRk-I: oh ok
[11:42] <hiddenpearls> bibo: I was giving it a try from USB and CD
[11:42] <bibo> hiddenpearls: You may have a bad burn. Try burning the .iso on the slowest speed possible. I've had that issue before.
[11:42] <aswin> in our computer networking lab in college we connect to a server(running redhat) using telnet nd thn use vi editor for writing client and server..is ther a similar way for me to do the same in my ubuntu syste,
[11:42] <bullgard4> [GNOME, Ubuntu 10.04.1] Why are there on one computer 2 processes gconf-helper, gdm-session-worker and gdm-simple-slave each? Ubuntu created them automatically. On another computer only 1 each.
[11:43] <MaRk-I> demoneye: check this   http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9450721
[11:43] <hiddenpearls> bibo: i see
[11:43] <aswin> i want to try out the programs before i go to the lab..but i dnt have ny server here to telnet to..so can i use my laptop nd telnet to itself and try out the program
[11:44] <bavbat> TiK: thanks (:
[11:44] <k0sh> why o why when i PXEBOOT my ubuntu it tells me that it didnt found /lib/modules/2.6.32-21generic/modules.dep even tho that file exists in nfs exported dir, plus other distros netboot just fine, only ubuntu gives me such error and goes into kernel panic, dir is exported via nfs v3
[11:44] <bibo> hiddenpearls: what's your hardware? It may be incompatible. Also you may just have had a bad bootup. I had that with Lubuntu, but then I tried again and it worked
[11:44] <bibo> *may not be compatible
[11:44] <experiMENTAL> hi. how to install vusb?
[11:44] <hiddenpearls> bibo: I am at windows7 + dual core 1.86 + 4gb RAM + dell laptop
[11:45] <bibo> aswin: what programs?
[11:45] <MaRk-I> demoneye: also check this one might help  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1488040&highlight=openchrome
[11:45] <k0sh> why o why when i PXEBOOT my ubuntu it tells me that it didnt found /lib/modules/2.6.32-21generic/modules.dep even tho that file exists in nfs exported dir, plus other distros netboot just fine, only ubuntu gives me such error and goes into kernel panic, dir is exported via nfs v3
[11:45] <hiddenpearls> bibo: you know what , when I install it from USB/CD it starts copying in C: drive
[11:45] <bibo> hiddenpearls: ???
[11:45] <demoneye> MaRk-I: sure looks confusing, I will, thank you :)
[11:46] <hiddenpearls> bibo: and after copying, it starts downloading from torrent
[11:46] <aswin> we write c programs like a chat system,retreving date nd time etc etc
[11:46] <justin22885> hey everyone
[11:46] <bibo> hiddenpearls: Are you doing a Wubi install?
[11:46] <hiddenpearls> bibo: Yes
[11:46] <hiddenpearls> wubi.exe is there
[11:47] <vak> is any one here experienced with miniDV video encoding?
[11:47] <bibo> hiddenpearls: Are you trying to run it by clicking on Wubi?
[11:47] <justin22885> im noticing an immediate change in performance when i tweaked fstab to run ext4 on my USB flash drive...
[11:47] <hiddenpearls> bibo: Yes
[11:48] <MaRk-I> demoneye: on the 2nd link read post #3   that looks like it might help
[11:48] <justin22885> its running faster, smoother, and optimized to write as little as neccessary to the actual drive
[11:48] <hiddenpearls> bibo: and then I tried both options demo and install inside windows
[11:50] <bibo> hiddenpearls: you could try setting it up as a dual boot
[11:50] <hiddenpearls> bibo: how to set it dual boot ?
[11:51] <bibo> hiddenpearls: First I have to ask, do you have a backup of Win7?
[11:51] <hiddenpearls> bibo: no
[11:51] <justin22885> first step is to load a liveCD, "tune2fs -o journal_data_writeback /dev/sdx1", then under fstab i used "/dev/sdx1 / ext4 noatime,nodiratime,data=writeback,nobh 0 0"
[11:52] <justin22885> then also under fstab added /var/log, /tmp, and /var/tmp to operate under tmpfs
[11:52] <hiddenpearls> bibo: I can try this on my other PC
[11:52] <hiddenpearls> bibo: which have winxp
[11:52] <leon> dd
[11:52] <hiddenpearls> bibo: though I have tried this there too but damn the same situation
[11:53] <hiddenpearls> bibo: it starts loading with background and continues forever
[11:53] <bibo> hiddenpearls: wubi is known to have problems, you could try reinstalling it, or to set up as a dual boot just put the live cd in the tray, shut down the system, and turn it back on, and it'll boot into the disk. Then there will be an option to easily create a partition for Ubuntu.
[11:53] <Guest90501> anybody hear
[11:54] <hiddenpearls> bibo: wubi extracts when I make ISO readable via magicISO
[11:54] <hiddenpearls> or form USB
[11:54] <arzhar> whats the name for png library ? libpng12-dev ?
[11:55] <waltercool> libpng?
[11:55] <hiddenpearls> bibo: partition is necassary to create ?
[11:55] <ramontayag> hey guys. would anyone know why a windows share asks for a password when viewing via ubuntu, and it doesn't ask for a password when i'm viewing via another windows machine? i tried entering no password, my the guest's password, but it doesn't let me though.
[11:55] <bibo> arzhar: libpng, it should be installed by default
[11:55] <matrix> Hello guys
[11:55] <matrix> i cant use some icons theme on my ubuntu
[11:55] <matrix> why
[11:55] <lunavorax> Hi everybody !
[11:55] <matrix> Linux matrix-laptop 2.6.32-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 28 05:14:15 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:55] <hiddenpearls> bibo: for ubuntu
[11:55] <waltercool> arzhar, are you developing something with libpng or you need it for an app?
[11:55] <lunavorax> Why is the line "force_color_prompt=yes" is commented in the .bashrc file ?
[11:55] <matrix> my ubuntu cant use some art icons theme
[11:56] <arzhar> bibo: it is, but trying to compile E gives me this Check if Evas was compiled with png module enabled and all required dependencies exist.
[11:56] <bibo> matrix: I've had that same issue. Go to gnome-look.org and there's several icon sets that actually do work
[11:56] <Laggie> I have some strange problems with the nano editor, the text is moved visibly one line too high, so when I start editing I edit the wrong line. To see the correct text on the line I need to use the right arrow key and punch through all text that I want to see correct first.
[11:56] <arzhar> im gonna try again with the dev package
[11:56] <Tecna> "Failed to retrieve share list from server" Somebody please help me figure out what's wrong with my samba server?   CLI output: http://pastebin.com/j3n4niis
[11:57] <bibo> arzhar: Oh yeah you're right, I had to get that package for something, I just can't recall what
[11:57] <arzhar> bibo: so if i want to compile something i need the dev package ?
[11:58] <MaRk-I> hiddenpearls: here's a step by step http://www.hackourlives.com/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[11:58] <bullgard4> [GNOME, Ubuntu 10.04.1] Why are there on one computer 2 processes gconf-helper, gdm-session-worker and gdm-simple-slave each? Ubuntu created them automatically. On another computer only 1 each.
[11:58] <demoneye> MaRk-I: I paste'ed this on xorg.conf, what should be the next thing? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/aKz6mPwZ
[11:58] <k0sh> why o why when i PXEBOOT my ubuntu it tells me that it didnt found /lib/modules/2.6.32-21generic/modules.dep even tho that file exists in nfs exported dir, plus other distros netboot just fine, only ubuntu gives me such error and goes into kernel panic, dir is exported via nfs v3
[11:58] <aronaliaga> hola
[11:58] <aronaliaga> no me funciona
[11:58]  * demoneye is *blur*
[11:58] <aronaliaga> el chat en español
[11:58] <bibo> hiddenpearls: Well if you're dual booting, Ubuntu needs part of a harddrive specifically for itself. I don't know much about Wubi, I couldn't get it to work so I just dual booted.
[11:58] <aronaliaga> alguien me ayuda?
[11:59] <aronaliaga> q ocurre?
[11:59] <io> !es | aronaliaga
[11:59] <MaRk-I> demoneye: next step is to restart X,   just log out and back in
[12:02] <bibo> anyone out there?
[12:03] <waltercool> bibo, whats wrong?
[12:03] <ashiswin> ?
[12:03] <bibo> nothing, it just got quiet
[12:03] <ashiswin> lol
[12:03] <waltercool> hahaha
[12:05] <hiddenpearls> bibo: I am trying it more
[12:05] <livindaylight> Greetings Ooboontoo people
[12:05] <bibo> yo
[12:05] <bibo> hiddenpearls: trying what?
[12:05] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there a way I can tell the version of grub that ubuntu installs not to search for any other os?
[12:05] <demoneye> MaRk-I: Thank a lot, it worked!
[12:06] <demoneye> thank/thanks*
[12:06] <MaRk-I> demoneye: cool yw
[12:06] <demoneye> ;)
[12:06] <hiddenpearls> bibo: trying to install it again on my pc by dualbooting with USB
[12:06] <bibo> hiddenpearls: Ah ok
[12:06] <hiddenpearls> it did again :( same as loading ..
[12:06] <jrib> !grub2 | Cyber_Akuma
[12:07] <hiddenpearls> bibo: I might have a bad burn on my USB ?
[12:07] <se_tools> good morning/afternoon/evening (depending where you are lol)
[12:07] <jrib> Cyber_Akuma: disable /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[12:07] <bibo> Cyber_Akuma: Yeah it doesn't exactly change
[12:08] <bibo> hiddenpearls: I'd go with a CD, Live USBs have been a problem for me.
[12:08] <Cyber_Akuma> jrib: wouldent the next kernel and/or grub update revert that though?
[12:08] <jrib> Cyber_Akuma: no, why would it?
[12:08] <hiddenpearls> bibo: I see, how if I read ISO file with magicISO , a virtual CD ?
[12:08] <Cyber_Akuma> last time I modified 30_os-prober to 09_os-prober so windows owuld be the first entry the next update reinstalled 30_os-prober
[12:08] <Cyber_Akuma> giving me a 09_os-prober and 30_os-prober and two windows entries
[12:09] <jrib> Cyber_Akuma: updates should not touch your config files unless you tell them to
[12:09] <Cyber_Akuma> The reason being im going to chainload, so I only want the grub that ubuntu installs to load ubuntu
[12:09] <bibo> hiddenpearls: When you burn the .iso in Windows open up the media player, click on data disc, and burn as image. I can't tell you the exact location because I haven't used Windows in a while.
[12:10] <prodigel> hi all. Anyone prolific in iptables? If you have the last rule in a chain -j DROP will that drop all packets, or just exit the chain?
[12:10] <Cyber_Akuma> Speaking of which, is there a way to tell it to install to a partition instead of the mbr during install? grub I mean
[12:11] <bibo> Cyber_Akuma: to do what?
[12:11] <Cyber_Akuma> To chainload
[12:11] <Cyber_Akuma> the other distro im installing uses an older version of grub that is incompatible
[12:12] <jrib> Cyber_Akuma: there should be an option in the install (or at least there was at some point)
[12:12] <Cyber_Akuma> Going to use a standalone bootloader to chainload the partition-installed grub of the different distros
[12:12] <Cyber_Akuma> .... once I figure out how
[12:13] <ramontayag> hey guys. would anyone know why a windows share asks for a password when viewing via ubuntu, and it doesn't ask for a password when i'm viewing via another windows machine? i tried entering no password, my the guest's password, but it doesn't let me through.
[12:13] <tranzistor> hi guys ... im looking for someone who knows something about satelite channels encryption
[12:13] <tranzistor> dont you know about some irc channel ?
[12:14] <bibo> Cyber_Akuma: you just blew my mind
[12:14] <se_tools> i have a question if anyone isnt busy answering another question........it is a networking question.
[12:14] <bibo> tranzistor: Are by chance doing anything illegal?
[12:16] <jrib> se_tools: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:16] <jrib> tranzistor: that isn't really related to ubuntu...
[12:16] <tranzistor> whole world is relative ilegall...
[12:16] <alex_> hello guys
[12:16] <tranzistor> i know
[12:16] <tranzistor> but im new to irc
[12:16] <jrib> tranzistor: ok, well it's offtopic here
[12:17] <tranzistor> and i dont know how to find some irc channel like that
[12:17] <tranzistor> so i will ask something else .... how can i find some irc channel in ubuntu :D
[12:17] <se_tools> is it possible to use a ubuntu desktop as an internet source? and have it scan all of the virus/spyware etc. so the other computers dont have to have the softwares installed?
[12:17] <alex_> who likes Gnome 3?
[12:17] <io> !channels | tranzistor
[12:18] <tranzistor> thx
[12:18] <tranzistor> !channels
[12:18] <io> tranzistor: That above is a list of Ubuntu IRC channels, if you are looking for another channel then use "/msg alis help list" or ask in #freenode.
[12:18] <io> And there was no need to do that.
[12:19] <bibo> alex_: The gnome shell looks bad, but it may be useful. Who knows
[12:20] <sproaty> in a terminal, alt+backspace will delete the previous word, like ctrl+delete in a text editor. is there a way to make ctrl+left/right move forwards/backwards through words, too?
[12:20] <theRealRon> Hello everyone, can anyone help with an openssh connection rest by peer fault I'm having?
[12:21] <alex_> how do I insert some name from available?
[12:21] <jrib> sproaty: what shell do you use?
[12:21] <alex_> like bibo inserted mine
[12:21] <erUSUL> sproaty: bash has emacs keybindings by default you can tweak the bindings if you want. see "man readline" or "man bash"
[12:22] <alex_> hey bibo :)
[12:22] <sproaty> jrib, default ubuntu one :P
[12:22] <erUSUL> sproaty: the bindongs you mention work here by default
[12:22] <Mit_> where can i find more programing related ubuntu channel
[12:22] <sproaty> erUSUL, thanks, shall check it
[12:22] <Mit_> i know there is one
[12:22] <Mit_> just forgot name of it
[12:22] <erUSUL> Mit_: #ubuntu-motu ubuntu-packaging ubuntu-devel etc etc
[12:22] <sproaty> woah it is working actually, hmm
[12:22] <sproaty> pretty sur eit doesn't do that at home heh
[12:22] <bazhang> Mit_, you are running windows
[12:23] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[12:23] <Mit_> yes i am
[12:23] <bazhang> Mit_, those channels wont help with hardware/windows issues
[12:23] <llvllonk> anyway to fix my wireless adapter?  can't dhclient...gives error "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[12:23] <llvllonk> "
[12:24] <erUSUL> llvllonk: what chip does that wifi adapter use?
[12:24] <aswin> tell me a way to telnet to my own system..i have laptop running ubuntu 10.04
[12:24] <matrix> Dusersen sende yanarsın lean (Sago) :P
[12:24] <llvllonk> it's dell studio...i believe it's broadcom
[12:24] <erUSUL> llvllonk: System>Admin>hardware drivers show anything about your wifi ?
[12:25] <theRealRon> On a clean ubuntu 10 install ssh -vvv user@host give the following trace:
[12:25] <theRealRon> http://pastebin.com/dE5PLs3e
[12:25] <llvllonk> it's recognized...but doesn't seem to work...
[12:25] <glxark> how coult I find Network Management ?
[12:25] <llvllonk> sec, let me check...thanks
[12:25] <glxark> to open
[12:25] <theRealRon> I can ssh with putty so I don;t think it's a hardware or network faul?
[12:26] <yangyl> Hello~
[12:26] <yangyl> 阿三
[12:26] <bazhang> !cn | yangyl
[12:27] <yunle96> !cn | bazhang
[12:27] <llvllonk> hrm....i can't even find the device in Devices-Control Center..
[12:28] <ChrisMorgan> After upgrading to 10.04, I discovered the Sun Java plug-in had been replaced with IcedTea, and now I've got to the stage where I really need to switch back, as certain applets just aren't working in IcedTea.  I've ticked the "partner" repository, but I'm being told that "Sorry, 'Sun Java 6.0 Plug-in' is not availabel for this type of computer (amd64)."  Any ideas?
[12:28] <bibo> ChrisMorgan: Try downloading the deb from somewhere else
[12:28] <ChrisMorgan> Such as?
[12:29] <glxark> bibo how may I open network management?
[12:29] <erUSUL> llvllonk: if it does no appear in ther then you have to use b43 driver. if you are connected to internet via wired in the machine just do « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter »
[12:29] <llvllonk> thanks erUSUL....I'll try that now
[12:30] <erUSUL> llvllonk: if the installation finish without issues reboot the machine
[12:30] <jrib> ChrisMorgan: you must not have partner enabled, sun-java6-plugin is certainly in partner for amd64
[12:30] <bibo> glxark click on the icon in the top right that either looks like network bars or a radar or something (top right, top panel) and there's your network management
[12:30] <ChrisMorgan> jrib: the entry I enabled shows in Software Sources as "archive.canonical.com/ubuntu karmic partner".
[12:30] <welinux> ChrisMorgan: I have installed java from ofsite I now I have the freshest java upgrade 21
[12:30] <jrib> ChrisMorgan: erm, why karmic if you are on lucid?
[12:30] <ChrisMorgan> Hmm, good point.  Wonder why it's like that.
[12:31] <ChrisMorgan> So that wasn't upgraded.  Thanks for spotting that for me :D
[12:32] <ChrisMorgan> That's the problem with calling it "karmic" and "lucid" rather than "9.10" and "10.04".  If it had been the numbers I would have spotted it but with the names I didn't look quite closely enough to recognise that.
[12:33] <welinux> ChrisMorgan: http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com
[12:33] <bibo> ChrisMorgan: yeah the animal names are annoying
[12:33] <jrib> karmic and lucid aren't animals :P
[12:33] <ChrisMorgan> I still reckon an April Fools Day joke should have been made about changing the default browser in lucid LYNX.
[12:34] <ChrisMorgan> You could make a brilliant article about it... speed benefits, increased security, greater accessibility...
[12:34] <bibo> jrib lol whatever
[12:34] <ChrisMorgan> ... sun-java6-plugin requires the package firefox :-(
[12:34] <ChrisMorgan> But I don't want that!  I've got firefox-4.0!
[12:35] <bibo> ChrisMorgan: There was already a bunch of complaining about the buttons moved to the left, that would just make people cry :D
[12:35] <ChrisMorgan> And I *really* don't understand why they call it "Light"... when it's dark.
[12:35] <welinux>  ChrisMorgan: I have mozilla nightly builds of firefox 4 and common firefox 3.6 together
[12:35] <ChrisMorgan> welinux: but I don't *want* firefox 3.6.
[12:36] <bibo> ChrisMorgan: I've tried some of those old school programs that apparently make you so efficient...after you learn them in a year
[12:36] <welinux> ChrisMorgan: you have remooved it already?
[12:36] <bibo> ChrisMorgan: I only use emacs because it has games on it
[12:37] <ChrisMorgan> For myself I've stayed with a nice green tinted Human-Clearlooks - Human as it was in 8.10 (and still in 9.04?).  Didn't like Human of 9.10, don't like Light of 10.04, in my opinion Ubuntu is getting worse with its themes.
[12:37] <ChrisMorgan> welinux: yep, I removed the firefox package some weeks ago.
[12:37] <welinux> I'm using bisigi themes
[12:37] <JoshuaL> I am using Radiance, I like it :)
[12:38] <bibo> ChrisMorgan: Yeah I saw the new lucid wallpaper, and I changed in seconds. Their themes suck, at least you can change everything about it.
[12:38] <gezegenci> Hi every one when release new version of ubuntu netbook edition
[12:38] <JoshuaL> !release
[12:38] <bibo> welinux: hehe same here, I use a combo of Aquadreams for my titlebars, and Airlines for my controls
[12:38] <ChrisMorgan> Is there any way to get around a package dependency?  I want to avoid getting firefox and firefox-branding if I can, I don't need them.
[12:39] <welinux> ChrisMorgan: after installing java by instructions from the site you will make a symlink to your Minefield 4.0b3pre folder
[12:39] <bibo> ChrisMorgan: there's an add on for firefox that let's you have multiple versions of it
[12:40] <ChrisMorgan> The point is I don't want to install the firefox package in the first place...
[12:40] <theholder> can anyone suggest a good program for clustering ubuntu server please?
[12:40] <welinux> bibo: I'm using gnome step into freedom
[12:40] <ChrisMorgan> And there's more mess, umlet depends on the OpenJDK JRE rather than any JRE... *sigh*
[12:40] <llvllonk> rebooting....both adapter not listed
[12:40] <bibo> Plan8
[12:41] <bibo> *9
[12:41] <theRealRon> can ony one suggest anything  I can try to debug my ssh connection rest problem? http://pastebin.com/dE5PLs3e Shall I try a debian install?
[12:41] <bibo> welinux: I went with a silver theme, but now I just everything all colorful. Cairo dock, gnomenu, and Compiz really spice it up
[12:41] <welinux>  ChrisMorgan: my firefox is in ".minefield version 4.0b3pre" folder in my home folder
[12:42] <ChrisMorgan> Seems like if I use apt-get I can get things to ignore their dependencies.
[12:42] <welinux> !aptitude
[12:42] <theholder> use apt-get install -f
[12:42] <theholder> fixes dependances
[12:42] <theholder> :)
[12:43] <welinux> apt-get -f install
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get -f install
[12:43] <gezegenci> !release
[12:43] <se_tools> anyone know if i can use my ubuntu computer as an internet source and use it to scan incomming files for other computers?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> se_tools: sure
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> !ics | se_tools
[12:44] <figure002> Q: How do i copy the content from one file to another existing file from the terminal? I know it's supposed to be something with >> newfile.txt
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> se_tools: and/or setup a squid proxy :)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> figure002: you can use cat file1 > file2   or: cp file1 file2
[12:45] <figure002> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> glxark: I'm using webchat.freenode.net
[12:45] <se_tools> how would i go about setting it up...i am having an issue with computers getting bogged down because of the antivirus/spyware programs i have to run and would like my linux to do all of that for me
[12:45] <glxark> ActionParsnip,  :))
[12:45] <MaRk-I> glxark: ?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !ics | se_tools
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> se_tools: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[12:46] <welinux>  ChrisMorgan: you're without java at all?
[12:46] <ChrisMorgan> No, I currently have the openjdk one.
[12:47] <ChrisMorgan> But I rather suspect that the two will be mutually exclusive, at least somewhat.
[12:48] <TiK> anyone here use gyachi?
[12:48] <Perun_> hi all
[12:48] <TiK> hi
[12:48] <MaRk-I> TiK: I do
[12:48] <TiK> im getting an eror on the ppa.. hw did you install it?
[12:48] <bibo> ChrisMorgan: I think that Ubuntu only gets the openjdk one
[12:48] <TiK> I compiled a version on my own but the webcam doesnt work
[12:49] <MaRk-I> I compiled from source
[12:49] <ChrisMorgan> bibo: the Sun one is in the partner repository, and that's what I'm trying to set up now... just for the sake of the browser plugin :-(
[12:49] <MaRk-I> TiK: your webcam works on cheese/other programs?
[12:49] <TiK> herm does your webcam work?
[12:49] <TiK> yes
[12:49] <experiMENTAL> is anyone using vusb?
[12:49] <MaRk-I> then it should work
[12:49] <TiK> I get an error...
[12:49] <TiK> (
[12:49] <TiK> :(
[12:50] <TiK> like 5 window pop up sayig my cams broken
[12:50] <welinux> ChrisMorgan: I had to use update-alternatives command and some guys helped me to choose the sun version of java
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Can somebody please tell me what package provides /lib/libgcc_s.so.1  thanks
[12:50] <MaRk-I> and from the PPA what's the error?
[12:50] <TiK>  gyachi: Depends: gyachi-data (= 1.2.9-0.1~lucid1) but it is not installable
[12:50] <TiK> E: Broken packages
[12:50] <TiK> i've installe from there before and the webcam worked
[12:50] <TiK> installed
[12:51] <TiK> he says thre i a data deb on there...
[12:51] <MaRk-I> TiK: there's packages for lucid?
[12:51] <TiK> yes
[12:51] <bibo> Tik: do you have it installed? You might have to reinstall it
[12:51] <welinux> ChrisMorgan: in repo there'is update 18 java version but the latest is update 21.
[12:51] <TiK> bibo: no
[12:51] <TiK> bibo: well es the one i compiled
[12:51] <TiK> without webcam support
[12:51] <Perun_> are there somewhere debs with xen hypervisor 4.0 and xen dom0 kernel for ubuntu? or does someone use the debian pkgs with ubuntu 10.04?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> welinux: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-install-sun-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html     tried that?
[12:51] <glxark> MaRk-I,  how could I get last version sykpe?
[12:52] <MaRk-I> glxark: from skype's website... and btw I'm using mirc for linux ;^)
[12:52] <glxark> MaRk-I,  skype 2.1 has not web cammera
[12:52] <ChrisMorgan> welinux: I don't care about the updates, it's purely that the IcedTea plugin doesn't work for something I absolutely /need/ it for.  So if I fail with getting the Sun JRE and plugin working, I'll need to use my Windows testing VM.... *shudder*
[12:52] <TiK> glxark: um skype works in linux with webcam support
[12:52] <glxark> MaRk-I,  :)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> welinux: you can always install using the .bin file but you will need to manually update it. Its a great way to get native 64bit java if your system is 64bit
[12:53] <MaRk-I> glxark: try version again you'll see
[12:53] <TiK> MaRk-I: do you still have to compile data?
[12:53] <TiK> maybe you can make a dep for me
[12:53] <TiK> deb
[12:53] <TiK> if you have time
[12:54] <glxark> tik I downloaded skype2.1 from Ubuntu software centre, but it does not have video call
[12:54] <welinux> ActionParsnip: a part of it -- I got the command "java -version" from that site but I was installing by the instructions directly from java.com
[12:54] <MaRk-I> TiK: hhmm no when you compile from source it's just one
[12:54] <TiK> or tar everything up and dcc it t me
[12:54] <TiK> glxark: add skypes PPA
[12:54] <glxark> TiK,  ok :)
[12:54] <TiK> MaRk-I: owe
[12:54] <bibo> Tik: Couldn't you get Skype's deb or PPA or something?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> welinux: thats where I get java from on my 64bit. I use that guide for 32bit
[12:54] <JoshuaL> How can I make the OpenOffice Quickstarter match the theme I am using?
[12:54] <MaRk-I> TiK: i'm not on ubuntu ATM...
[12:55] <glxark> Tik how to get skype PPA?
[12:55] <TiK> MaRk-I: oh ok
[12:55] <TiK> hold on
[12:55] <bibo> JoushuaL: the loading screen?
[12:55] <welinux> ActionParsnip: what does your java -version shows? 18 or 21?
[12:55] <TiK> glxark: 1 sec
[12:55] <glxark> TiK ok:)
[12:55] <welinux> ActionParsnip: I'm 32bit
[12:55] <darknemesis> i need to recall the printed output of my last console session how can i do this?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> welinux: i'm at werk now, so cannot test. I used that guide for my 32bit lappy so it will give whatever it gives
[12:55] <welinux>  ChrisMorgan: why you don't want to use .bin file?
[12:55] <TiK> im gonna msg you the info
[12:56] <bibo> darknemesis: hit the up key
[12:56] <ChrisMorgan> What .bin file?
[12:56] <welinux> yes
[12:56] <JoshuaL> bibo, no the quickstart systray icon
[12:56] <welinux> ActionParsnip: ok
[12:56] <darknemesis> bibo: not the command i typed the output from that command
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> welinux: the packages file seems to say its 6.20dlj-1ubuntu3
[12:57] <bibo> JoshuaL: The icon?
[12:57] <MaRk-I> TiK: btw I see 2 PPA which one did you use, loell's or bautista's?
[12:57] <JoshuaL> bibo, yes, it now shows some ugly colour behind it instead of the colour from the them itself.
[12:57] <welinux> ActionParsnip: I think you can give some good advices to ChrisMorgan to use .bin file
[12:58] <bibo> darknemesis: Oh yeah sorry. I don't know, I don't think you can
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> welinux: go for it dude
[12:58] <utilitytrack> hello, somebody here had troubles with ubuntuforums.org site?
[12:59] <bazhang> utilitytrack, try #ubuntuforums
[12:59] <bibo> utilitytrack: yes, the forums haven't been update in hours for somer reason
[12:59] <mun> hi
[12:59] <MaRk-I> TiK: found this.... For 10.04 loell ppa won't work, you need latest ppa from Darwin Bautista at https://launchpad.net/~baudm/+archive/ppa
[12:59] <_Deko_> linux para seres humanos
[12:59] <utilitytrack> bibo!!!! that is it!!!
[12:59] <mun> i'm trying to setup compose key so that I can use my own combinations. is it necessary to set GTK_IM_MODULE to xim?
[12:59] <psycho789> why is linux better for programming
[12:59] <MaRk-I> !es | _Deko_
[12:59] <welinux> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1237/ I was using QuickJava plugin and it didn't show my java was working so I decided to install java from their site
[13:00] <utilitytrack> bibo please said how often was this troubles?
[13:00] <bibo> utilitytrack: yeah I'm having that same problem. I cleared my cache and everthing, but when I tried it on a different computer I realized something was wrong
[13:00] <welinux> psycho789: Anteru’s blog » Switching to Linux: A Windows developer’s view 	http://anteru.net/2009/09/14/604/ :)
[13:01] <bibo> utilitytrack: wait...wut?
[13:01] <bazhang> !ot | welinux
[13:01] <_Deko_> mark-i Sorry
[13:01] <ChrisMorgan> Before I go any further trying to get sun-java working, if anyone who's got it would like to see if http://www.beadsproject.net/examples/Lesson10_Interaction/applet/index.html works with Sun Java, that'd be nice (and it's a fascinating applet, too).
[13:01] <bazhang> utilitytrack, this is ubuntu support ; try #ubuntuforums
[13:01] <utilitytrack> where you clean cache?? in browser?)
[13:02] <bibo> psycho789: It feels more comfortable, there's a lot of developer tools
[13:02] <bibo> utilitytrack: yeah, but it didn't make a difference. I think the servers are down or something and it's just showing a cached page on the servers
[13:03] <utilitytrack> bibo, I think as the same exactly
[13:04] <utilitytrack> bibo, thank you because I'm not worried now
[13:04] <bibo> utilitytrack, I'm sure they'll be up soon
[13:04] <MaRk-I> TiK: did you read my last post?
[13:04] <bibo> utilitytrack, hehe yeah I came on here for that very reason, then stayed to help people
[13:05] <welinux> psycho789: http://tinyurl.com/358tkoh
[13:05] <TiK> MaRk-I: no :)
[13:06] <TiK> MaRk-I: sory I was helping someone what did you say?
[13:06] <MaRk-I> TiK: there's 2 PPA loell's are broken.... For 10.04 loell ppa won't work, you need latest ppa from Darwin Bautista at https://launchpad.net/~baudm/+archive/ppa
[13:07] <TiK> aaaahh
[13:07] <TiK> ok
[13:09] <TiK> MaRk-I: dumb quetion.. how do i remove the other PPA?
[13:09] <MaRk-I> TiK: third party software select loells and untick then delete
[13:10] <MaRk-I> TiK: system/admin/software sources
[13:10] <TiK> ok
[13:10] <TiK> thanks
[13:10] <MaRk-I> yw
[13:11] <JoeMaverickSett> is it ok to remove the header/image .deb files from a compiled kernel,if i no longer need them?
[13:11] <TiK> yay works
[13:11] <TiK> MaRk-I: where did you find this info? I googled for an hour
[13:12] <bibo> JoeMaverickSett, I wouldn't do it, it might mess with the updater
[13:12] <MaRk-I> TiK: lol I googled gyachi PPA saw 2 of them and then this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9408761&postcount=9
[13:13] <bibo> how do you change your name in xchat?
[13:13] <JoeMaverickSett> bibo, oh! okie. so, i should just leave those, right? wouldn't it take up my hard disk space?
[13:13] <TiK> MaRk-I: thanks man
[13:13] <MaRk-I> TiK: yw
[13:13] <TiK> I ven emailed the dude
[13:14] <TiK> even
[13:14] <MaRk-I> bibo: /nick  yournewnick... or click your nick  lol
[13:14] <aioobe> so, can I "safely" compare strings in scala using "==" or should I still stick to .equals?
[13:14] <bibo> JoeMaverickSett, how big are they and how big in your hard drive?
[13:14] <TiK> and he said everything was fine :)
[13:14] <Pici> aioobe: This is #ubuntu, you probably want #scala
[13:14] <aioobe> sorry
[13:14] <MaRk-I> TiK: you know voice only works in rooms and not in PMs right?
[13:15] <JoeMaverickSett> bibo, i don't know how big they are but my hard disk got 320GB, so i think i better just leave those, right?
[13:15] <Craig_Dem> 320 GB is fine.
[13:15] <Legendary_Bibo> JoeMaverickSett, right click, properties. Yeah I would just leave them
[13:16] <Craig_Dem> If you were that bothered about space, you could recompile the kernel without debug and support for other machines.
[13:16] <TiK> MaRk-I: well my webcam doesnt work either and the other PPA's vesion was 9
[13:16] <TiK> :(
[13:16] <JoeMaverickSett> Legendary_Bibo, okie. thanks.
[13:16] <Legendary_Bibo> yw
[13:16] <experiMENTAL> is anyone using vusb?
[13:17] <MaRk-I> TiK: hhmm strange make sure no other program is using the webcam
[13:17] <cached> is there a good, minimal graphical text editor that doesn't require something like gnome or kde?
[13:17] <cached> i'm thinking something like gedit - gnome
[13:17] <TiK> hm
[13:17] <MaRk-I> cached: nano, jed, vim
[13:17] <TiK> the webcam is not in ue but skype isloaded
[13:17] <TiK> use
[13:17] <cached> MaRk-I: graphical
[13:17] <jrib> !editor | cached
[13:18] <Butch1281> fter I restart my VM, trying to ping from VM -> another machine always gives me "Destination Host Unreachable".  If i reboot the entire machine, the VM can ping fine on startup.  As soon as i ping out from the vm, to say www.google.com, the VM can then be seen by the entire network/can ping the network.  It's a perplexing problem.
[13:18] <jrib> cached: hmm, well gvim is graphical if you like vim
[13:18] <Legendary_Bibo> cached, use gedit, kate, notepad through wine
[13:18] <TiK> Butch1281: NAT or Bridged?
[13:18] <bihari> Good evening to all
[13:18] <Legendary_Bibo> cached, emacs is better
[13:18] <Butch1281> TiK: Bridged
[13:18] <imanc> does anyone know why I can't ssh into my server with thsi new user (is it to do with the shell or group?)  externalaccess:x:1005:1006::/home/externalaccess:/bin/sh
[13:18] <TiK> Butch1281: hmm
[13:18] <Diverdude> what would be a reason to recompile the kernel?
[13:18] <cached> i was hoping for osmething more lightweight than emacs, but i think that's what i'll end up using
[13:18] <ChrisMorgan> Don't know why the gvim package is "GVim" though - "gVim" is the correct form.
[13:19] <TiK> Butch1281: are you using VMware or VirtualBox?
[13:19] <Butch1281> TiK: I can't SSH into the VM, but i can use vncviewer to get in
[13:19] <Butch1281> TiK: KVM
[13:19] <TiK> never heard of it
[13:19] <Legendary_Bibo> cached, what are planning to do? You can use gedit, and get plugins for it. It becomes a very versatile text editor, and lightweight
[13:19] <TiK> you might want to check out VirtualBox by sun I recommend 3.1
[13:19] <cached> Legendary_Bibo: was planning on editing files on a server through x tunneling
[13:20] <Butch1281> TiK: It's the official linux VM, included directly in the kernel now
[13:20] <Butch1281> TiK: I'll check out virtualbox though, thanks
[13:20] <Legendary_Bibo> cached, you can try to find a plugin with gedit, but emacs would probably be easier
[13:20] <Butch1281> TiK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[13:20] <Pici> imanc: Whats happening when you try?
[13:20] <TiK> Butch1281:  though VM was just built into the kernel.. VM software is different it just uilizes it
[13:20] <cached> Legendary_Bibo: it's on a vps and i'd prefer not to use 200 megs for a text editor =)
[13:21] <Legendary_Bibo> Diverdude, if you're making a custom one
[13:21] <imanc> Pici: I'm getting permission denied.  I have set the pwd twice with usermod -p pass externaluser
[13:21] <Butch1281> TiK: Well, no, there is full virtualization, paravirtualization.. etc
[13:21] <TiK> Butch1281: idunno.. I just know VirtualBox is the sh*t
[13:21] <MaRk-I> Butch1281: did you read "warning 2" on that page you posted?
[13:21] <Butch1281> TiK: virtualization that runs in user-space, kernel-space, it can get confusing =)
[13:22] <Butch1281> MaRk-I: warning 2?  No, i dont see that on the page..
[13:22] <cached> Legendary_Bibo: i guess opening it up remotely through a local gedit works
[13:23] <MaRk-I> Butch1281: Warning 2: Bridged networking does not work by default. Since the release of kernel 2.6.18 in Sep 2006
[13:23] <Butch1281> MaRk-I: ah, under networking i see that
[13:23] <TiK> heheh
[13:23] <Pici> imanc: Does that user's home directory exist?
[13:23] <Butch1281> MaRk-I: Oh, I know.  I configured bridged networking however, its just not turned on by default.
[13:23] <TiK> as I said I recommend VB
[13:23] <imanc> pico - probably not
[13:23] <Legendary_Bibo> cached, yeah gedit seems easier to work with personally, it just needs plugins and some wrappers
[13:23] <imanc> adding now
[13:23] <MaRk-I> Butch1281: ok just checking
[13:23] <ramontayag> hey guys. would anyone know why a windows share asks for a password when viewing via ubuntu, and it doesn't ask for a password when i'm viewing via another windows machine? i tried entering no password, but it doesn't let me through.
[13:24] <TiK> MaRk-I: in all versions  get the error "htmlview" not found (in gyachi) when i try to click on links
[13:24] <rambo3> I am falllwoing a tutorial on postfix and I am stuck at postmap line. No such command. What package does have postmap ?
[13:24] <bihari> Hellow mark
[13:25] <Legendary_Bibo> ramontayag: why don't you just enter the password? You might not have set up the permissions to allow your Ubuntu computer
[13:25] <MaRk-I> TiK: when you click links inside gyachi?
[13:25] <TiK> rambo3: just enter the users login and passwd?
[13:25] <MaRk-I> hi bihari
[13:25] <TiK> MaRk-I: yah
[13:25] <imanc> Pici:  still no dice, odd.
[13:25] <TiK> sh:
[13:25] <TiK> is hat an extena program  instal?
[13:25] <bihari> long time no See MaRk-I
[13:25] <MaRk-I> TiK: what's your default browser?
[13:25] <TiK> MaRk-I: is that an external program  install?
[13:25] <MaRk-I> bihari: ;^)
[13:26] <Pici> imanc: Can you add the -v argument to ssh and see if the error is coming out of ssh or that user's shell?
[13:26] <TiK> MaRk-I: sh: htmlview: not found (firefox)
[13:26] <imanc> Pici: OK
[13:26] <rambo3> TiK, what
[13:26] <bihari> MaRk-I,  https://launchpad.net/~l-botnet Look :p
[13:26] <MaRk-I> TiK: no, go to setup/options tab and top right select firefos %U %s  i think
[13:26] <bihari> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bihari MaRk-I  this one also
[13:27] <TiK> MaRk-I: that is an emty ppa?
[13:27] <TiK> empty*
[13:27] <TiK> ok hold
[13:27] <imanc> Pici: it is saying: debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password
[13:27] <imanc> Permission denied, please try again.
[13:27] <imanc> what is freaking me out
[13:27] <imanc> is i have created loads of accounts nad had no issues before
[13:27] <MaRk-I> bihari: congrats
[13:28] <imanc> doing to try a basic pwd now
[13:28] <bihari> MaRk-I,  Thanks
[13:28] <imanc> Pici: I just changed the pwd with: usermod -p testing externalaccess
[13:29] <TiK> MaRk-I: haha I changed it to firefox and it crashed
[13:29] <TiK> hahah
[13:29] <Pici> imanc: Can you check /var/log/auth.log , perhaps theres something relevant logged there.
[13:29] <ramontayag> Legendary_Bibo, unfortunately the owner of the pc doesn't want to share their account password with me. however, he didn't put a password in the shared folder though.
[13:29] <ramontayag> guess i'll just have to login w/ windows
[13:29] <imanc> Pici: OK
[13:29] <TiK> anything I change too it crashes.. brb reoving and installing 10
[13:29] <bihari> MaRk-I,  There is an option in Application Password and encruption key ? how can i use this option
[13:30] <experiMENTAL> is anyone using vusb?
[13:30] <MaRk-I> TiK: you have to select "use my web browser to view profiles"  and then right below type this:  firefox %U %s &
[13:30] <imanc> Pici: Aug  5 13:29:29 localhost sshd[2557]: Failed password for externalaccess from 81    <- mostly that. So wtf
[13:30] <MaRk-I> bihari: where?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:31] <experiMENTAL> is anyone using vusb?
[13:32] <Legendary_Bibo> experiMental: what do you need help with?
[13:32] <experiMENTAL> Legendary_Bibo: how to run it?
[13:32] <bihari> Application<Accessories<passwords and encruption key
[13:32] <k0sh> how to enable nfsv3 modules in initramfs?
[13:33] <bihari> MaRk-I,  Application<Accessories<passwords and encruption key <<
[13:33] <darknemesis> MaRk-I: hi, was told you can help perhaps i need to get my passowrd form a console session
[13:33] <darknemesis> MaRk-I: can you help?
[13:34] <imanc> Pici: it was usermod -p that didnt' work. passwd externalaccess worked fine. Hmm.]
[13:34] <Pici> imanc: Can you change that user's password with passwd instead of usermod?  I'm looking through the usermod manpage and it looks like it expects an encrypted password there.
[13:34] <bihari> Darknemesis yes he wil help you be calm
[13:34] <Legendary_Bibo> experiMental: have you tried typing in the bin name in the terminal? Such as vusb
[13:34] <Pici> imanc: Yes, that :)
[13:34] <imanc> Pici: yeh, figured it'd want the pwd pre-encrypted
[13:34] <imanc> Pici: I'm sure I have been here before. Doh! Thanks for your help!
[13:34] <experiMENTAL> Legendary_Bibo: i download a file, unzipped, but i don't know how to install it or where to put files. i tried vusb on terminal.
[13:35] <Pici> imanc: Sure.
[13:35] <MaRk-I> !ask | darknemesis
[13:36] <MaRk-I> bihari: I have no Idea... brb
[13:36] <bihari> ok MaRk-I  np
[13:36] <Legendary_Bibo> experiMENTAL: sudo make, sudo make install
[13:36] <Legendary_Bibo> experiMENTAL: There might be a readme also
[13:36] <MaRk-I> darknemesis: explain your problem, what do you mean get your password?
[13:37] <darknemesis> MaRk-I: umm basiclly i paid for a vpn, i set up a password generated in my console, i forgot it as i cut and pasted something after i closed the console so, i need to what the recall the console printed
[13:37] <ceceka> i just updated ubuntu. my soundcard is onboard IEC958. Since the update, Pulse only shows digital output in the menue, no analog output, and i got no sound on my analog output because of that. any idea how to configure pulse manually to activate analog output? it worked before.
[13:37] <darthsitius> Does lubuntu have a wubi ?
[13:37] <experiMENTAL> Legendary_Bibo: there is nothing useful in readme file.
[13:38] <Legendary_Bibo> darthsitius: it should, but the one way to know is to burn a live cd and pop it in
[13:39] <darthsitius> Legendary_Bibo, I dont have a blank cd, so i thought if it does , i could just mount as ISO and install
[13:39] <MaRk-I> darknemesis: you can review your command history, not sure about your password tho
[13:39] <darthsitius> Legendary_Bibo, Was lazy :-) basically so I thought I'll ask here basically
[13:40] <darknemesis> MaRk-I: history gives the commands, i was hoping to perhaps have help getting it from ram
[13:41] <MaRk-I> darknemesis: hhmmm not really
[13:42] <arvind_khadri> hi, i am installing sogo on my machine, if i have to connect to mysql, i need to edit its profile. could anyone who has used it, tell me where can i find its profile file??
[13:42] <darknemesis> MaRk-I: so... basiclly pay again? - there is no password reset on the site
[13:43] <urzk> hi. does anyone know where rhythmbox stores playlist files when one creates a playlist?
[13:43] <Legendary_Bibo> darknemesis, you could e-mail them and ask
[13:43] <MaRk-I> darknemesis: they should have one, make sure again
[13:44] <cached> why does darthsitius' name appear in italics on pidgin?
[13:44] <bihari> arvind_khadri,  may be this articale help full for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1176077
[13:44] <darknemesis> Ipredator - Questions and Answers <https://www.ipredator.se/faq/qna/>  apparently not
[13:44] <hay> hi all... after upgraded kernel via Software Management - Upgrade, when I choose kernel 2.6.31-24-generic, the system simply hangs... the same is also when I choose -22... It only works when I choose -20 as I am using now... how can I solve this issue? big thanks!
[13:45] <darknemesis> Registration/Unregistration Q: What do I do if i lose my username and/or password? A: Since we don't save your social security number (SSN) or any similar information there is no way for us to verify that you are the owner of a specific account. This means that if you loose any account informatinon that account will be disposed and you'll have to register and pay again.
[13:45] <geirha> urzk: ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/
[13:45] <arvind_khadri> bihari, thanks a lot
[13:47] <arvind_khadri> bihari, am not compiling sogo, anyways thanks for the help
[13:48] <Aaron1> Hey guys I've downloaded Ubuntu installation disk (10.04) and it will not boot up ( I am getting a blank screen right after I click "try ubuntu.." or if I enable the advance settings (by trial and error: "nomodeset") it will show the loading screen but then will stuck (clicking F1 shows it stops right after "setting sensors limit [ok])) Any Idea how can I solve this ?
[13:48] <bihari> arvind_khadri,  your welcome
[13:49] <urzk> geirha: thank you
[13:50] <livindaylight> Aaron1: did you check the disc for defects?
[13:51] <woocyfear> Hello
[13:51] <woocyfear> I need some help
[13:51] <Aaron1> yes , I did that , I also tried both 32bit and 64bit same results
[13:51] <livindaylight> Aaron1: you have dl from windows?
[13:51] <TiK> MaRk-I: thanks for the help
[13:51] <arvind_khadri> anyone who has used sogo here ??
[13:52] <MaRk-I> TiK: yw
[13:52] <woocyfear> how can i configure grub graphically
[13:52] <Aaron1> if "dl" stands for download , yes I have downloaded it from windows
[13:52] <livindaylight> Aaron1: and burnt to cd using nero or sumthin... and when you check disc it appears to be ok, it returns test with 0 defects?
[13:53] <woocyfear> i remember on debian there were a graphical interface, where i could change the boot menu
[13:53] <woocyfear> but now, i cant't find it on ubuntu 10.04
[13:53] <MaRk-I> darknemesis: yeah there's no way and in ther QA says you have to pay again....
[13:53] <Aaron1> livindaylight: I have used "Infrarecorder" , I have checked the disc from the boot menu
[13:54] <livindaylight> Aaron1: consider trying to put iso on usb-stick. I can't say why, your cd is not working
[13:54] <woocyfear> can somebody help me?
[13:55] <livindaylight> Aaron1: you've done md5sum test of iso, burnt it to cd, checked for defects but get blank screen why you click on 'install' what can one say?
[13:55] <hughszg> is it possible to check how longh as my ubuntu existed on my computer?
[13:55] <jayeola> does anyone here run nagvis? is it any good?
[13:55] <livindaylight> Aaron1: try another cd ? alternatively, try usb, I don't know what else to suggest
[13:55] <cached> livindaylight: a four letter word of choice? :)
[13:56] <Aaron1> livindaylight: alright , I will try USB-stick , thank you for your help
[13:56] <livindaylight> cached: yea, won't help much though :)
[13:56] <TiK> Aaron1: drop into console and se if you get sr0 errors.. I had to install from a USB flashdrive
[13:56] <MaRk-I> woocyfear: what do you mean graphically?  sudo gedit /etc/default/grub   ?
[13:56] <lee__> hey people how are you
[13:56] <livindaylight> Aaron1: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ don't know if you know this site
[13:56] <TiK> Aaron1: I had the same problem.. a USB drive will help
[13:57] <evox> ciao
[13:57] <TiK> livindaylight: ubuntu comes with sftwae to mak a bootable usb  dive youcan instal from it's called "Create Startup Disk"
[13:57] <livindaylight> TiK: he's in windows
[13:58] <TiK> oooh
[13:58] <livindaylight> evox: ciao ragazzo
[13:58] <Alanatiir> I'm having a problem with Lucid Lynx.  Everytime I shutdown my computer, using the power button, the PC speaker lets out a sharp beep.  Using a Gateway W350A laptop (if that helps solve this issue).  I tried looking it up in google, and found that pcspkr is already blacklisted (so adding it to fix the issue is...ineffective?)  Any ideas?
[13:58] <saml> hey, how can I mount davfs as normal user? I get mount: only root can do that
[13:58] <saml> i dont' want to do sudo
[13:58] <TiK> livindaylight: ubenetbootin is a goo choice or vrtualbox te iso and create te startup disk :)
[13:59] <TiK> good choice or installing via virtualbox i mean*
[13:59] <Alanatiir> saml: Give users the ability to mount within Administration/Users and Groups?
[13:59] <livindaylight> TiK: I don't follow, VB route?
[14:00] <TiK> livindaylight: instal virtualbox on windowsand then mae an ubuntu box.. use the create startup disk and then rboot
[14:00] <saml> Alanatiir, i checked Give User to Mount userspace filestytems.. but still no mount
[14:01] <XunZi> my Ubuntu install can not play full hd movies w/o lags. what can be the cause? here is the spec: C2D E8400 3GHZ, Nvidia 7300GT , 6GB ram
[14:01] <livindaylight> By the way people I'm enjoying Opera 10.60 with integrated chat capabily. nice, clean and fast
[14:01] <XunZi> is my hardware too slow for full hd play back?
[14:01] <Aaron1> Tik & livindaylight : I am unable to find my USB-stick will ipod will do ? also is it safe for the ipod ?
[14:01] <livindaylight> TiK: sheesh... that sounds like the long route :)
[14:01] <TiK> hehehe
[14:01] <gomesp> hey guys, I'm having some issues with some ruby installation on ubuntu. perhaps someone could give me a quick help?
[14:01] <livindaylight> Aaron1: good question: I don't know :)
[14:01] <TiK> Aaron1: you will lose all your data
[14:02] <Aaron1> Tik : its empty , but I want to use it later as MP3 player
[14:02] <TiK> then just reformat it :P
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> hi, i am installing sogo on my machine, if i have to connect to mysql, i need to edit its profile. could anyone who has used it, tell me where can i find its profile file??
[14:02] <Alanatiir> saml: If 'Mount user-space filesystems (FUSE)' didn't work, try (temporarily) selecting 'Administer the system'.  Not something I'd want to leave on at all times, mind you, but if it lets you do what you need to do without restoring to sudo...*shrugs*
[14:02] <gomesp> I am trying to setup the thin web server to run on my ubuntu box, and every time I do a *thin start* I get the following: pablo@pablo-vm:~$ thin start
[14:03] <gomesp>  /var/lib/gems/1.9.1/gems/thin-1.2.7/lib/thin.rb:6:in `require': no such file to load -- openssl (LoadError)
[14:03] <saml> Alanatiir, is it safe to edit /etc/fstab?
[14:03] <Alanatiir> saml: Because at that point you might as well make all users admins, which is a very blunt (and risky) workaround.
[14:03] <chrizthop> halo there
[14:03] <asazine> hi :)
[14:04] <Alanatiir> saml: No idea re: /etc/fstab.  I'm not an ubuntu veteran.  Just a novice that's still learning (recently a Windows XP user) and is waiting for anyone who might have an answer to my initial question.
[14:04] <AviMarcus> Hello. Can anyone explain the DISPLAY=:0.0 ? Stuff keeps showing up on my left, secondary screen, when I want it to be on the main. Setting it to 1.0 or even .1 result in an error, and I can't find any docs on it.
[14:04] <MaRk-I> saml: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/davfs2/+bug/459998  answer is in post #2
[14:05] <Alanatiir> Again, my problem right now is that sharp beep that occurs each time I shutdown Lucid.  Blacklisting pcspkr does nothing to help me (Lucid comes with that blacklisted already). :(
[14:05] <saml> MaRk-I, thanks
[14:06] <MaRk-I> saml: yw
[14:07] <jessicaBR> Hello everybody great music here, check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRL0bRup-0s
[14:07] <squidy> Do you know a ppa or a package to mod auth ntlm winbind ? I'm not getting to find that... Please help me :-)
[14:07] <Pici> jessicaBR: This is a support channel, please don't do that.
[14:07] <woocyfear> Hello,  I need some help
[14:08] <arvind_khadri> !sogo
[14:08] <Alanatiir> Ok, I'll log back in later, it seems no one is ableto help me right now, and I just got done with a 10 hour overnight shift at work...really tired and I'll just have to deal with that loud beep for the time being.  Good night.
[14:08] <livindaylight> Aaron1: might not be the best idea. Had any other opinions?
[14:08] <woocyfear> how can i configure grub graphically? i remember on debian there were a graphical interface, where i could change the boot menu. I cant't find it on ubuntu 10.04
[14:09] <jimb> I am experiencing some problems with logging into MSN from empathy.. anyone else experiencing problems with that at the moment?
[14:09] <io> jimb: What problem?
[14:09] <TiK> whats the ! command to shw the command to reset gnome-panel?
[14:09] <Aaron1> livindaylight: I am still trying to find my USB-stick but I have located only my 512MB and unfortunately it is not enough
[14:09] <woocyfear> please, somebody help me
[14:10] <bazhang> !resetpanels > TiK
[14:10] <bihari> woocyfear,  say you problem
[14:10] <jimb> io, i can log on fine from my mac, but empathy refuse connection and say network problem
[14:10] <AviMarcus> bazhang, is > for PM?
[14:10] <io> bihari: He already did.
[14:10] <bazhang> AviMarcus, yep
[14:10] <AviMarcus> cool.
[14:10] <livindaylight> Aaron1: its best to use a pendrive. I asked in #linux and #ubuntu-uk and couple people say it might not be a good idea. Maybe don't want to risk it
[14:10] <bazhang> AviMarcus, alternatively /msg ubottu factoid
[14:10] <se_tools> anyone ever get avast to install and register?
[14:11] <AviMarcus> yes, but you triggered it for someone else, bazhang
[14:11] <livindaylight> Aaron1: wouldn't want you to hate ubuntu afterwards :)
[14:11] <Aaron1> livindaylight : Ok my other option is MicroSD 2GB on a cardreader but I think it will be slow
[14:11] <TiK> Aaron1: anyhting will work as long as you can fix the files on it
[14:11] <woocyfear> i want to add one more OS to grub menu
[14:11] <TiK> Aaron1: I don't know microsd
[14:12] <Aaron1> TiK: well I would give it a try I am creating it now
[14:12] <chadi> woocyfear: I would use os prober to generate the menu entry, then add it manually in another file
[14:13] <TiK> Aaron1: you can boot off an SD card?
[14:13] <woocyfear> where to add, because there is no menu.lst
[14:13] <pipas> hello ppl
[14:13] <bihari> woocyfear,  have you gon through this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalGrubConfig
[14:13] <Aaron1> its a card-reader and it function as a drive in my windows I think I might be able to (its USB-connected)
[14:13] <pipas> i'm having trouble connecting 3G usb modem
[14:13] <CkhiKuzad> I installed Half-Life today in wine, and now it is saying i need service pack 3 or above (which does not make sense, considering H-L was made for windows 95 originally) but wine apparently doesnt allow me to emulate SP3. is it possible to do so?
[14:14] <livindaylight> Aaron1: i'd like to know whether that works out
[14:14] <TiK> Aaron1: well if you ca boot off it it will work ;)
[14:14] <pipas> i have usb_modeswitch
[14:14] <pipas> and 3G stick is detected fine
[14:14] <bihari> pipas, which version of ubuntu you are using?
[14:14] <pipas> but when it connects...it's says modem hangup
[14:15] <pipas> bihari; lucid lynx 10.04
[14:15] <wildman> hello there. I've just inadvertently removed the applet having the speaker, bittorent status, etc. from my upper panel on 10.04, how can I add it back?
[14:15] <pipas> any tips?
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[14:15] <FloodBot3> glxark: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[14:16] <Aaron1> TiK , livingdaylight : I am going to give it a shot and if it works I will make sure to report here hehe
[14:16] <bihari> pipas, try this $ sudo vi /etc/udev/rules.d/15-huawei-155x.rules
[14:16] <glxark> I have ran the resetpanel command and I still Do not see Applications / Places / System
[14:16] <TiK> Aaron1: cool.
[14:16] <pipas> bihari: i have that file too
[14:17] <MaRk-I> woocyfear: /etc/grub.d/40_custom   check this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[14:17] <bihari> pipas, check this article http://franklinchua.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/huawei-e1550-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[14:17] <livindaylight> Aaron1: kewl, good luck ;)
[14:17] <pipas> bihari: thx, i'm gonna read
[14:18] <bihari> pipas, and aso try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1492523
[14:18] <bihari> pipas,  you welcome  :) my freinds
[14:18] <se_tools> anyone know how to get avast to register?
[14:18] <erfiug>  
[14:18] <darknemesis> !vpn
[14:19] <glxark> I have ran the resetpanel command and I still Do not see Applications / Places / System
[14:19] <MaRk-I> se_tools: did you register in the avast page?
[14:19] <bihari> se_tools,  ? avast ?
[14:19] <Ego_Proctor> can anyone tell me what the maximum limit is for memory allocation per process in ubuntu 10.04x64 bit?
[14:19] <Snandy> Can I get Live CD to burn a DVD if I only have 1 DVD player?
[14:20] <MaRk-I> Snandy: dvd players can read cd...?
[14:20] <Snandy> Yes, but that player is running the Live CD currently
[14:20] <kat_> hello, i have windows vista and ubuntu in my computer, but ubuntu doesnot work, how can i recover my files? thanks
[14:21] <MaRk-I> Snandy: ah... you could try... you mean burn the .iso in a dvd?
[14:21] <kat_> snandy what if you keep the files and then burn a cd?
[14:22] <bihari> kat_, try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide may be it will help you a bit about you problem
[14:23] <Snandy> Well, I should state my goals, and maybe someone knows a better solution: I need to get to my RAID hard drives, so I was going to install an OS temporarily so I can get access to all my drives and prep for a permanent OS (either Ubuntu or Win7) Ubuntu Live CD won't recognize my raided or SATA hard drives. I could mayble also install to a USB stick and run it from there
[14:23] <AviMarcus> is there a way I can see/edit the current folder path in nautilus?
[14:23] <guntbert> Snandy: you could run the live system from an usb stick...
[14:23] <kat_> bihari i read that and i dont know what to do
[14:24] <Snandy> guntbert: I might do that. I need to install raid drivers so I can see my other partitions and so I can clear off C and prep it for an OS
[14:24] <wildeja> Hi all, I am running amd64 desktop version of Ubuntu 10.04 on my netbook.  I have been reading about netbook remix and was wondering if i could get the communities general feelings please. Thank you
[14:24] <bihari> kat_,  ok wait
[14:24] <AviMarcus> wow. luckyBackup is so much faster than grsync. Unless it's playing me.
[14:24] <MaRk-I> AviMarcus: click the paper and pencil icon on top, it will show the path
[14:25] <guntbert> Snandy: wait a moment, I'm gonna try something (about your first question)
[14:25] <AviMarcus> that sounds familiar, but I don't see it now, MaRk-I . Might I have hidden it somehow?
[14:26] <MaRk-I> AviMarcus: it's right below the "back arrow"
[14:27] <agronholm> hi! could somebody explain to me how I can configure a static ip in ubuntu?
[14:27] <bihari> kat_ you have both vista and ubuntu? right? but ubuntu doesnot working
[14:27] <miso_h>  hi all!!!
[14:27] <agronholm> the network manager does not seem to want to work with manual settings
[14:27] <rek> i,can i print something with a shared printer in a win pc ?
[14:27] <Pici> AviMarcus: ctrl-l should also work.
[14:27] <kat_> bihari, that's it
[14:27] <MaRk-I> se_tools: you're gettin auto ignored stop PMing
[14:27] <wildeja> Is there any reason to change from ubuntu 10.04 40 netbook remix?
[14:27] <guntbert> Snandy: my idea didn't work - so create a stick from the live system, then boot from that...
[14:28] <wildeja> 40, sorry to
[14:28] <bihari> what error are you getting? when you start ubuntu?
[14:28] <AviMarcus> Pici, ctrl-L does work. thanks. But I remember that pencil, but I can't find it now.
[14:28] <gsal> hello, I'm trying to use xvnc, I can connect, but a screen comes with X sign with no gdm, I suspect that there is a limitation of gdm for peers connecting from outside of the network. I'm routing to the server right now
[14:28] <kat_> bihari, it says something like: there's no wubildr
[14:28] <miso_h> i use 32 bit ubuntu. i will install winrar (latest version) with wine. but i am not sure if i have to install it as 32 or 64 bit. Because wine can install both of them. Which will work faster on me ?
[14:28] <ayekat> kat_: you could boot from the Ubuntu live CD and access the harddisk containing the data that should be recovered...
[14:28] <ayekat> ... then put them somewhere else
[14:29] <thune3> wildeja: UNR has a desktop interface optimized for small screens. It is otherwise a normal 32-bit ubuntu. If you are having trouble navigating the desktop due to your screensize, then you might consider UNR
[14:29] <kat_> ayekat, i tried to use the livecd, but i cannot find my files
[14:29] <se_tools> ok whats autoignore? how does that work?????
[14:29] <gsal> any idea ?
[14:29] <ayekat> kat_: what files are you actually trying to recover?
[14:29] <Snandy> Hmmm  LIve CD so far is burning the DVD. I thought I'd attempt, at worst I have another coaster among many
[14:29] <AviMarcus> whatever, maybe it will reappear. Thanks Pici
[14:29] <kat_> ayekat, text files, i had them kept in /usr
[14:30] <bihari> kat_, which version of ubuntu you have?
[14:30] <Oer> miso_h, why do you think 64 bit if your OS is 32 bit ?
[14:30] <ayekat> kat_, and now they aren't there anymore?
[14:30] <wildeja> thune3, Not having any problems with screen size. and am currently using 64bit desktop version so would you say i'm better off where i am then?
[14:31] <miso_h> Oer:  i just asked ... i dont know. im thinking...
[14:31] <miso_h> Oer: maybe wine will work with it better...
[14:31] <kat_> bihari, i had ubuntu 9.10, then i ¿actualized? to 10.04
[14:31] <ayekat> Hi, how can I get the raw binary data from an ISO file? For example to make a floppy disk image?
[14:31] <bihari> kat_,  try this https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/478717
[14:31] <MaRk-I> kat_: post #4  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515803
[14:31] <thune3> wildeja: if everything is running OK, i would not change anything.
[14:31] <kat_> ayekat, no, they are not there
[14:31] <glxark> I do not see "Applictaion'' button on the top, how to see?
[14:31] <Oer> miso_h, on your 32 bit OS, only 32 bit application can be run. on any 64 bit OS, you can run 32 + 64 bit applications
[14:32] <bihari> glxark,  ? huh you dont see ?
[14:32] <theRealRon> hello - sorry to be posting the same Q - I'm stumped  ssh command line aborts with "connection reset by peer" Not the remote server - can connect from a different box, putty GUI on this box works. ssh debug: http://pastebin.com/dE5PLs3e
[14:32] <kat_> bihari, mark-i, ayekat thanks, i'm goint to read that
[14:32] <glxark> bihari,  there is not applictaion button on the top )
[14:32] <wildeja> Second Question then. On this hard drive i also have the backup and windows 7 partitions that the machine came with.  All i did when i got the machine was shrink them to make space for ubuntu. Is there any downside to keeping those partitions or should i be devoting the whole drive to Ubuntu?
[14:33] <miso_h> Oer: wine can open 64 bit windows softwares. but wine is something like emulator.
[14:33] <bihari> glxark, go to system<preference
[14:33] <miso_h> Oer: i can open 64 bit exe so . it is better to install them or not ?
[14:33] <Oer> miso_h, yes, wine can open 64 bit, if your OS is 64 bit.
[14:33] <theRealRon> (if it helps I also tried a basic Debian install and got same problem)
[14:33] <miso_h>  Oer: hmm....
[14:33] <bihari> glxark, go to system<preference<appearance
[14:34] <miso_h>  Oer: sorry for that. i didn know it..
[14:34] <Oer> miso_h, so you are bound to 32 bit winrar, why do you not use rar non-free from the repository's ?
[14:34] <distant2> what package manager does ubuntu use?
[14:34] <miso_h> Oer:  there is no a good software on linux with gui :( for compressing ...
[14:35] <ayekat> distant2 | dpkg - and apt or aptitude as frontend
[14:35] <miso_h> Oer:  we have just peazip but it has some problem .. maybe i will try it 1 year later...
[14:35] <Oer> miso_h, when installed, rar is available in filemanager nautilus menu/mouse-menu
[14:35] <bihari> MaRk-I,  can i pm you.
[14:35] <distant2> what's more important in a linux distro, the package manager or the desktop environment?
[14:36] <MaRk-I> bihari: yes
[14:36] <jgcampbell300> I am looking for something to replace Adobe Master Collection 4 to run on Ubuntu 10.04 ... anyone have link to more info ?
[14:36] <bihari> i think package manager
[14:36] <miso_h>  Oer: i know that. but it can not compress the files by level i want (high level, normal or store...) :(
[14:36] <Commodore> Hello?
[14:36] <miso_h>  Oer: this is the most important think.. :(
[14:36] <agronholm> jgcampbell300: doesn't it work with the latest wine then?
[14:37] <thune3> wildeja: unless you are experiencing diskspace issues with ubuntu, there is no downside to leaving those partitions as is.
[14:37] <jgcampbell300> agronholm: I am trying to get away from Adobe , but It does work on Virtual Box
[14:37] <Commodore> Who uses Xubuntu?
[14:37] <Commodore> I can't seem to enable themes in Emerald... Someone help?
[14:37] <wildeja> thune3, Thank you for your time :)
[14:37] <distant2> so is the pm linked to the de or is it independent, can gnome and kde run the same pm for exampl?
[14:37] <agronholm> jgcampbell300: there is no comprehensive replacement suite
[14:37] <Aaron1> Tik , livindaylight: it did not work :( but I've noticed a "wubi" installer when I created the USB , is this installer install ubuntu completely ?
[14:38] <agronholm> for photoshop, there is gimp
[14:38] <Commodore> I can't seem to enable themes in Emerald... Someone help?
[14:38] <Commodore> I can't seem to enable themes in Emerald... Someone help?
[14:38] <Commodore> I can't seem to enable themes in Emerald... Someone help?
[14:38] <kat_> mark-i, that post seems right, i was downloading some episodes with bitorrent, do you think my episodes will be in root.disk?
[14:38] <FloodBot3> Commodore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <rek> i,can i print something with a shared printer in a win pc ?
[14:38] <agronholm> for illustrator, there is inkscape
[14:38] <ayekat> distant2 | yes
[14:38] <ResQue> jgcampbell300: i hate adobe to
[14:38] <gsal> guys, what happens just after vnc connects ? supposed a graphical interface appears. but it appears nothing, only X sign with gray background.  like gnome didn't start
[14:38] <ayekat> distant2 | i mean, there's no difference between kde or gnome - thy both use dpkg
[14:38] <miso_h> Oer: am i right ?
[14:38] <agronholm> no replacement for Flash, obviously
[14:39] <jgcampbell300> agronholm: bummer ... I am wondering if there are indvidual packages I could move to like .. well gimp i have for photos but need to replace dreamweaver and a few of the others
[14:39] <MaRk-I> kat_: most likely, try the work around and keep a copy of it just in case
[14:39] <jgcampbell300> individual
[14:39] <kat_> mark-i, thanks very much
[14:39] <arun__>  i want to access internet through proxy server. How it setup using it when using firefox ?
[14:39] <ResQue> agronholm: i think there is a 3rd party unofficial flash player, and its opensource, i could be wrong though
[14:39] <kat_> bihari, thanks a lot
[14:39] <distant2> ayekat: some distro says it uses 'conary' on gnome
[14:39] <kieran> afternoon
[14:39] <distant2> ayekat: not ubuntu.
[14:39] <bihari> you welcome >:D< kat_
[14:39] <Oer> miso_h, i am looking for a howto to use rar and compressionlevels, can't find a easy howto :(
[14:40] <iceroot> !gnash | ResQue agronholm
[14:40] <kieran> any1 know how to play .mev files on ubuntu??
[14:40] <agronholm> what the heck are those
[14:40] <bihari> arun_ ?
[14:40] <ResQue> agronholm: also with HTML5 i think flash with be used less and less
[14:40] <blue_> hi
[14:40] <jgcampbell300> well anyone know of a replacement for DreamWeaver ?
[14:41] <fencepost> Hi guys, Can someone tell me the equivalent to "eselect opengl" on ubuntu?
[14:41] <agronholm> ResQue: that's BS, html5 can barely do 15% of what Flash can, and there are *NO* developer tools to harness even that much easily
[14:41] <TiK> jgcampbell300: yeah dreamweaver in a VM unless you like editing text :)
[14:41] <fencepost> I need to get mesa running instead of the nvidia gl
[14:41] <miso_h> Oer: that is the problem. :( i was searching for it at least 2-3 mouths. the best program on linux with gui is peazip. but it has many many big problems now. (we have disscuss for compress softwares on many forums)
[14:41] <kieran> movie file on usb hd, would like to play it within ubuntu not win7
[14:41] <jgcampbell300> ha ha ha
[14:41] <jgcampbell300> ok well looks like i will stay with adobe for now
[14:42] <jgcampbell300> thanks for the info all
[14:42] <TiK> kieran: what format?
[14:42] <kieran> anyone please
[14:42] <TiK> kieran: have you mounted thedrive?
[14:42] <kieran> yes
[14:42] <agronholm> iceroot: gnash is a flash *player*, not an editor
[14:42] <TiK> s pla it :)
[14:42] <kieran> can see file, doesnt reconise extension
[14:42] <TiK> play..
[14:43] <ayekat> distant2 | there might exist distros where conary is used as package manager - but there's no real special relationship between a GUI like GNOME and the package manager itself
[14:43] <TiK> wat media type is it?
[14:43] <iceroot> agronholm: correct, did not read a flash editor is needed
[14:43] <Oer> miso_h, the manual gives many options > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/rar.1.html
[14:43] <sandywin> hello
[14:43] <TiK> kieran: try opening it in VCL or whatever mediaplayer you use
[14:43] <kieran> .mev extension
[14:43] <sandywin> it is very good
[14:44] <kieran> i'll try vcl
[14:45] <ayekat> distant2 | i have for example a debian without any GUI (i kicked gnome from the machine), and still the package manager works alright... the GUI is simply a program that can be installed or removed like any other
[14:45] <miso_h> Oer: this is just for rar. i use many types most 7z rar and zip..
[14:45] <miso_h> Oer: i will not take you time.
[14:45] <miso_h> Oer:  thank you very much...
[14:45] <Oer> miso_h the option -m (0-5) compressionrate ?
[14:46] <miso_h> Oer:  i have to leave now...
[14:46] <livindaylight> TiK: has Aaron showed up yet( i gotta go, just wondered whether that was success or fail)
[14:46] <agronholm> has anyone tried to configure a static ip with networkmanager?
[14:46] <agronholm> I can't get this crap to work
[14:46] <sussler> agronholm: easiest of ways: get rid of it and use classic ifup/ifdown
[14:47] <TiK> livindaylight: i he can bot off of it im sure he is installing happily :)
[14:47] <TiK> er boot
[14:47] <sussler> for a while that p** craps out on several distros on me, don't care to know why
[14:47] <agronholm> sussler: I wonder why it stays broken year after year without anyone bothering to fix it
[14:48] <rek> Dr_Willis,
[14:48] <sussler> i think because it is the usual "works for me" kind of thing to be honest
[14:48] <blueonyx> hey, i got this smart error: http://pastebin.com/uQ9hb4k8 how to investigate it further? thune3?
[14:48] <agronholm> probably
[14:48] <sussler> all i know that is only let live the fittest of foss projects on my box; if something pisses me off, it dies. Period.
[14:48] <thune3> blueonyx: checking...
[14:48] <sussler> especially when i read WONTFIX in bug trackers
[14:48] <blueonyx> thune3: thanks :)
[14:49] <arun__> when I tried using with a proxy I am unable to access gmail. Any experience using proxies!!
[14:49] <ResQue> arun__: a private or public proxy?
[14:50] <arun__> ResQue: cant really differentiate from them :P I just tried a proxy from samair.ru ! it should be public proxy right?
[14:51] <distant2> ayekat: in foresight linux, it uses conary (they say it's powerful and whatnot), but for the gui it uses packagekit, a software used i believe by other package managers. this is very confusing as to the difference between pms.
[14:52] <phil42> what's in 2.6.32-24.39 ?
[14:52] <livindaylight> distant2: foresight linux is lol
[14:52] <ResQue> arun__: yes that is what i mean by a public proxy, something from a public list that anyone can access
[14:52] <distant2> livindaylight: is lol?
[14:52] <ResQue> arun__: i would say gmail is blocking the IP address, most of these public proxy list get scanned and blocked every day becuase of how many people abuse them for spaming
[14:53] <ayekat> distant2 | is packagekit a program with a GUI? because on Ubuntu there is also a program named "Synaptic" which is like a graphical frontend to dpkg.
[14:53] <livindaylight> distant2: they have been bragging about their package manager for years; now foresight linux is not even on 100 distrowatch list. Maybe the revoluton will come soon
[14:54] <phil42> i found it, thanks anyway
[14:54] <livindaylight> distant2: its very slow development basically. They been promsing a gui front end for conary for a long time too now. Seems like its just a couple part time hackers workingon that project on the weekend
[14:54] <distant2> ayekat: "designed to provide a consistent and high-level front end for a number of different package management systems"
[14:54] <bazhang> !ot | livindaylight distant2
[14:55] <livindaylight> bazhang: well spotted
[14:55] <distant2> yeah
[14:55] <raven> how to install ubuntu via network
[14:55] <littlepenguin> debootstrap raven
[14:55] <ResQue> livindaylight: whats the project?
[14:56] <livindaylight> ResQue: their distro
[14:56] <arun__> ResQue: ok. thnx
[14:56] <distant2> well conary has a gui frontend after all.
[14:56] <armence> Hello all. I have an odd issue. My internet is working fine (setup is ethernet cable directly to modem) but, the network manager under Wired Networks, says: device not managed.
[14:56] <FoolsRun> Ridiculous question time!  So I know that Google offers Google Apps Directory Sync, which is neat and all; it syncs your Google Apps users with an LDAP server. Does anyone know of a way to do the reverse of this? A way to give Google Apps authoritative whatever so that my LDAP server was updated to reflect my GApps users?
[14:57] <ayekat> distant2 | ok, it's some kind of a frontend... but i guess there is something below... like in Ubuntu APT (Terminal) underlying Synaptic (GUI)
[14:57] <neiliob1973> help...Dell laptop was fine, now no grub, just tty1! Tried Googling, but no luck.
[14:57] <armence> FoolsRun: And the connection to ubuntu is?
[14:57] <ayekat> distant2 | but I've never used Foresight Linux, so I probably can't help you
[14:57] <FoolsRun> armence: I want to do this with an Ubuntu server running slapd?
[14:58] <bazhang> distant2, conary has nothing to do with ubuntu support; please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:58] <armence> FoolsRun: That is tenuous at best since most likely your issue is effectively with the Google Apps API.
[14:59] <bavve> ciao
[14:59] <bavve> kualkuno konosce kualke programmino haker?
[15:00] <Nairik> join star wars
[15:00] <FoolsRun> armence: right, well I'd still need something to communicate with the Google Apps API, and I wondered if anyone knew of such a tool.
[15:00] <bazhang> !it | bavve
[15:00] <FoolsRun> But I appreciate your willingness to help and how you keep your disdain and feelings of superiority out of your tone\
[15:00] <FoolsRun> It's refreshing
[15:01] <neiliob1973> help...Dell laptop was fine, now no grub, just tty1! Tried Googling, but no luck. help!
[15:01] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: did you recently run updates?
[15:01] <littlepenguin> neiliob you tried the repair?
[15:01] <zdown> 1001111010111110011111011100011100111
[15:01] <neiliob1973> FoolsRun, yes. friend laptop, but he even asked me if he should run it.
[15:02] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: did it work after the updates, or are the updates what broke it?
[15:02] <neiliob1973> I can, do a Live boot ok.
[15:02] <neiliob1973> it worked fine BEFORE the updates.
[15:02] <zdown> dsdsd
[15:02] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: You get a non-graphical login prompt? Can you log into it?
[15:03] <Pici> zdown: Please stop.
[15:03] <neiliob1973> yes...on boot-up, I get a "tty1 prompt for username-laptop"
[15:03] <armence> FoolsRun: It has nothing with disdain and superiority. There are thousands of topics such as yours which are only marginally connected to ubuntu. If everyone who had a question about one of them, asked it here, this channel would become unusable. You need to find a channel about google apps and ask there.
[15:03] <rek> Pici,  can i print something with a printer connected to a win pc in my home?
[15:04] <TiK> FoolsRun: that happened to me. I ha to do a complete reinstall. GUI would load with a terminal and it would be the same for a new user.. I was stumped
[15:04] <littlepenguin> yes rek you need to share it and then connect to it with the needed drivers
[15:04] <rek> from ubuntu
[15:04] <rek> what sw ?
[15:04] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: can you log in at the prompt and then type "gdm" and see what happens?
[15:05] <littlepenguin> share it on win machine in your network..then from ubuntu you need to access that share and connect the printer
[15:05] <littlepenguin> @rek
[15:05] <rek> how
[15:05] <TiK> hmm
[15:05] <rek> i knew it
[15:05] <rek> i know ther was a sw
[15:05] <littlepenguin> @rek http://www.watchingthenet.com/connecting-to-shared-printers-on-windows-computers.html
[15:05] <neiliob1973> FoolsRun, giving it a shot now...give me a moment
[15:06] <carod> There is a way to define constantes like (#define THIS) with g++ at compilation time?
[15:06] <topyli> rek: do you want to print remotely over the internet, or just share the printer in your home network?
[15:06] <rek> littlepenguin, i noticed i'haven't been able to bt a file to my pc....for a long period... what's happening
[15:06] <littlepenguin> rek see topyli question
[15:06] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: my guess is that your video drivers got screwed up and that X is failing to start
[15:07] <rek> topyli, both one day ,now just the 1st
[15:07] <rek> the 2nd topyli sorry
[15:07] <littlepenguin> the 2nd is fine with the tut i gave u rek
[15:07] <rek> in my home only...
[15:07] <rek> tut?
[15:07] <littlepenguin> the link i meant
[15:07] <rek> i need a software i think
[15:08] <Pici> rek: No you don't. Everything that you need to do that is already built in to Ubuntu,
[15:08] <topyli> rek: it's just basic windows sharing, ubuntu handles it out of the box
[15:09] <littlepenguin> yes topyli
[15:09] <raven> possible debootstrap with lubuntu?
[15:09] <littlepenguin> but maybe the driver is needed @topyli
[15:09] <rek> littlepenguin,  topyli Pici but if i want to use the printer when windows is down and my printer is connected throught my alice gate access point things are different i think
[15:10] <neiliob1973> FoolsRun, here's the error I get "** (gdm-binary:1760): WARNING ** Failed to acquire org.DisplayManager; could not acquire name; bailing out"
[15:10] <rek> however i'll try
[15:10] <littlepenguin> rek can you share th eprinter through the router=?
[15:10] <xckpd7> bye
[15:10] <xckpd7> whoops
[15:10] <neiliob1973> FoolsRun, that was run as SUDO
[15:10] <szonek> how can i check in script in which directory this script is?
[15:10] <rek> littlepenguin, with win-win i can do it yes...
[15:10] <topyli> rek: the windows box has to be running
[15:10] <sascha84> hallo kann mir jemand helfen???
[15:10] <rek> i've already done it
[15:11] <Pici> !de |  sascha84
[15:11] <topyli> rek: oh, the printer is actually connected to the router, not the windows box?
[15:11] <rek> windows discover that under alice gate there's a printer connected...
[15:11] <littlepenguin> rek maybe your router has the option to share the printer on the routers ip ..depends on modell and feature
[15:11] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: what about without sudo?
[15:11] <littlepenguin> raven dunno if it works with lubuntu
[15:12] <neiliob1973> same error, but also tagged with "not allowed to own due to security policies in config file"
[15:12] <ebi> Hi all. I have a problem with xbmc-live which is based on ubuntu so I tought that's the best place to ask. If I try to change my X conf it's beeing reset as soon as I start X. I saw there is /etc/gdm which has XFailsafe so I removed that directory but still the config gets overwritten. Any other place I could look for?
[15:12] <rek> topyli, now it's connected to the win box however i'd like to connect it to the gate to use it even if win is down...
[15:13] <carod> There is a way to define constantes like (#define THIS) with g++ at compilation time?
[15:13] <rek> later i'll try if i can find it through the router
[15:13] <FoolsRun> What's that command that lets you reconfigure X from the command line? I always forget
[15:13] <rafael54> hello
[15:13] <rafael54> is there
[15:13] <rafael54> anyone
[15:13] <rafael54> ?
[15:13] <FloodBot3> rafael54: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:13] <neiliob1973> FoolsRun, is there any way to copy the drivers/files/etc from the LiveCD to a mounted HD, and make it work?
[15:13] <rafael54> online i mean
[15:13] <carod> just 1541 people haha
[15:13] <rek> rafael what was that
[15:13] <rafael54> ok
[15:13] <topyli> rek: ok, that's what i do in fact. my router runs samba and it works like a charm. not sure how your printer likes to do the sharing, but as a rule of thumb, it should work out of the box
[15:13] <Pici> carod: ##c++ would be a more appropriate channel.
[15:14] <carod> thanks you pici, I was lost :)
[15:14] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: unlikely. I think you need to fix X and GDM
[15:14] <rek> what do you mean topyli that i can try to find it?
[15:14] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: try running gdmsetup or sudo gdmsetup from command line
[15:14] <rek> how can a gate be running samba?
[15:15] <neiliob1973> FoolsRun, great! "(gdmsetup:1932): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display"
[15:15] <ironfoot495> hello is there someone who could help to get rid of destroy remove Darwin Streaming Server. I have searched for a way  everywhere!!!
[15:16] <FoolsRun> Does anyone here have kick powers? I just got this in PM:  rafael54> Do You Want to be an OPERATOR in #ubuntu ? copy/paste this-> //write   $decode(b24gMTp0ZXh0OiphKjojOnsgLmlnbm9yZSAkbmljayB8IC50aW1lcq  .... etc. etc.  Not entirely sure what this does, pretty sure it's spam/attack.
[15:16] <rek> has anyone bluetooth problems like me?
[15:16] <somethinginteres> hi all, I've made 3 partitions during install 1 for '/' one for /home and one for swap and the computer wouldn't boot. No errors were thrown, it just wouldn't do anything.. I reformated and reinstalled using the option 'erase and use whole drive' and it booted first time, no issues. Pointers?
[15:16] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: did it run, or did it fail with that error?
[15:16] <rek> fraqtive is an amazing software
[15:16] <neiliob1973> no, failed with that error
[15:17] <ironfoot495> it shuts down my localhost!!!
[15:17] <hardlined> how can I change the icons on the desktop of the livecd? I'm trying to customize a livecd, but when I mount the squashfs filesystem the /home dir is empty.
[15:17] <kbrosnan> FoolsRun: probably base 64 http://www.motobit.com/util/base64-decoder-encoder.asp
[15:17] <Pici> FoolsRun: Please don't run that.
[15:18] <Pici> FoolsRun: He was already banned from here.
[15:18] <FoolsRun> Pici: I know
[15:18] <FoolsRun> Pici: that is, I know not to run it
[15:18] <FoolsRun> Didn't know he was banned :)
[15:19] <Snandy> My screen is all wiggly (bad video drivers still) how many characters are needed for log in name?
[15:19] <kris756> somebody here>?
[15:19] <FoolsRun> Nope.
[15:20] <kdefreak> win 20
[15:20] <erUSUL> !anybody | kris756
[15:20] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: was the upgrade your friend did a distro upgrade or just a regular update?
[15:20] <kris756> i need help i just installed ubuntu 10.04  and the internet desnt work
[15:21] <neiliob1973> regular update...why this is so weird.
[15:21] <jeroendv> how do i get the number of package upgrades to be mention in the motd? /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available and /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available is present on my system, but apparently they are not used/executed, because the package info is not part of my motd
[15:21] <FoolsRun> kris756: desktop or laptop? Wired or wireless?
[15:21] <neiliob1973> FoolsRun, regular update...why this is so weird.
[15:21] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: is there any chance he shut down before the upgrade was finished? Because it looks like it's pretty seriously hosed.
[15:21] <kris756> laptop both of them dont work wireless or wired
[15:22] <anirvana> PLEASE HELP: I am getting this error while booting to ubuntu 9.04 "Minimal BASH like line editing is supported..."
[15:22] <FoolsRun> kris756: in a terminal, type ifconfig  is there any result? Does it think it has network cards?
[15:22] <anirvana> I can't boot into my ubuntu :'(
[15:22] <neiliob1973> FoolsRun, idk. other options before I Live-boot, copy his files, and reinstall the OS?
[15:23] <Mjuksel> yo guys
[15:23] <kris756> im a newb i just put ifconfig in terminal thats it?
[15:23] <erUSUL> anirvana: the usefull message should have appeared before the one about "Minimal BASH like .... "
[15:23] <Mjuksel> i have a problem
[15:23] <kdefreak> kris756: Yes.
[15:23] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: That might be faster. If you're comfortable with the command line you can back up his /home/hisname directory to a USB drive and reinstall
[15:23] <Mjuksel> everytime i reboot my windows are f*d up
[15:23] <FoolsRun> kris756: yeah, just type it in a terminal and press "enter"
[15:23] <Mjuksel> my maximize/minimize buttons are gone
[15:23] <Mjuksel> so the title bar
[15:23] <anirvana> erUSUL : GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta 4
[15:23] <kris756> ok
[15:24] <anirvana> erUSUL : ^^ apeared before
[15:24] <neiliob1973> FoolsRun, THNX! I appreciate you taking some time!
[15:24] <FoolsRun> neiliob1973: sorry I couldn't actually help :(
[15:24] <erUSUL> anirvana: anything else? about a device not found or something ?
[15:24] <FoolsRun> kris756: if the results are really long, use http://pastebin.com/ to show them.
[15:25] <ksbalaji> my gdm is corrupt. I joined channel from a livecd. While I get command prompt, which app do I use to join channel? What is command line for xchat sans GUI?
[15:25] <kris756> yeah its long but im conected in another computer i cant copy paste
[15:25] <bacon> hi please i'd like to know if it was possible to, when i'm building a .deb, to have precompiled sources inside this .deb ?
[15:25] <bacon> I need to have precompiled and not compiled packages :o
[15:25] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: you can install and use irssi in command line
[15:25] <anirvana> erUSUL : "For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions.Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/file completions"
[15:25] <FoolsRun> kris756: I'm not sure I follow. You're remotely connected to the machine?
[15:26] <anirvana> erUSUL : It happended, due to a power failure :(
[15:26] <Xaratas> hi, we tryed a dist upgrade from lts 8 to lts 10.04, but the do-release-upgrade --proposed fails and gives much errors about broken packages. but we dont know why
[15:26] <anirvana> erUSUL : It happened*
[15:26] <kris756> no  im in my widows laptop  and im having trouble with another laptopt the linux one
[15:26] <frxstrem> is it possible to make Unicode characters by holding down ALT (or some other key) and pressing a numeric code, like on Windows?
[15:26] <FoolsRun> kris756: ahh, that makes sense. Of course you can't pastebin from a machine without internet.
[15:27] <kris756> yeah i cant do anything without internet so what i do?
[15:27] <FoolsRun> kris756: reading the ifconfig output, you see eth0 or eth1?  Somewhere in that mess of information should be an IP address --do you see one?
[15:28] <jimmy__> 大家好吖
[15:28] <littlepenguin> jimmy theres a chinese ubuntu room
[15:28] <jimmy__> 有没有人在这里吖
[15:28] <anirvana> erUSUL : what should I do now?I have a lot of work inside my ubuntu
[15:28] <kris756> no i dont see it i see a hwaddr?
[15:29] <figure002> !jp | jimmy__
[15:29] <figure002> !cn | jimmy__
[15:29] <jimmy__> I am very happy to come here
[15:30] <FoolsRun> kris756: it should be something like eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0dblah blah blah           inet addr:192.168.1.5
[15:30] <ironfoot495> is there a way to get rid of DSS?
[15:30] <littlepenguin> what is DSS?
[15:30] <bacon> jimmy__: :-)
[15:30] <littlepenguin> !DSS
[15:30] <ironfoot495> yes please!
[15:30] <anirvana> PLEASE HELP: I am getting this error while booting to ubuntu 9.04 "Minimal BASH like line editing is supported..." :'(
[15:30] <littlepenguin> ironfoot what you mean with DSS??
[15:31] <ironfoot495> Darwin Streaming Server!!
[15:31] <bazhang> !repeat | anirvana
[15:31] <littlepenguin> iron foot get rid of it??
[15:31] <anirvana> bazhang : what?
[15:32] <jimmy__> hi
[15:32] <littlepenguin> @ironfoot open up synaptic search for darwin streaming server and remove it with right klcik remove
[15:32] <jimmy__> can i help you
[15:32] <FoolsRun> jimmy__: nope, I'm good.
[15:32] <jimmy__> he he
[15:33] <jimmy__> I am good too
[15:33] <FoolsRun> kris756: still there?
[15:33] <kris756> yeah the adress is 00:1b:24:af:41:07
[15:33] <figure002> jimmy__: was that japanese or chinese you just typed? i wasn't sure...
[15:33] <anirvana> PLEASE HELP: I am getting this error while booting to ubuntu 9.04 "Minimal BASH like line editing is supported..." I can't boot my ubuntu anymore!
[15:34] <jimmy__> chinese
where are you from
[15:34] <figure002> jimmy__: ah.. ok
[15:34] <jimmy__> nice to meet you
[15:34] <FoolsRun> kris756: are you sure it says that next to "inet addr: "?  Because that looks like your MAC address.
[15:34] <bazhang> !ot | jimmy__
[15:35] <PooDoc> Noob Question but I deleted my network manager applet from the top bar on gnome by accident on 10.04. How do I get it back on there?
[15:35] <PooDoc> nm-applet does not seem to do anything
[15:35] <JamesWStubbs> I need a hand. I'm trying to compile a evdev from source, I had the .diff.gz that Ubuntu supplies and a .diff from a site, how would I merge them?
[15:35] <jimmy__> figure002,,he he
[15:35] <bazhang> jimmy__, this is not the chat channel.
[15:36] <kris756> base adress?
[15:36] <jimmy__> what this channel is ?
[15:36] <deanimean> I have an interfaces file and NM is NOT enabled at startup but it still has a process running, why?
[15:36] <trineox> PooDoc: right click on taskbar, and select add to taskbar
[15:36] <FoolsRun> kris756: if inet addr: isn't in thre... hmm...
[15:36] <bazhang> jimmy__, ubuntu support only.  chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:36] <trineox> PooDoc: the re-add your applet
[15:36] <kris756> ohh ok found net addr-        127.0.0.1
[15:37] <FoolsRun> kris756: you're on the wired network now? Does the network jack have a link-light?
[15:37] <FoolsRun> aha!
[15:37] <jimmy__> bazhang,oh thanks
[15:37] <kris756> my bad im new to all this
[15:37] <FoolsRun> kris756: Okay, your computer doesn't think it's connected to a network. Can you physically look at the jack you plugged the network cable into and tell me if there's a light on it?
[15:38] <jimmy__> how to make to ubuntu-more beautiful
[15:38] <bazhang> !themes | jimmy__
[15:38] <kris756> i dont have a cable now im on a wifi spot can u work with that?
[15:38] <FoolsRun> kris756: we'll probably need to get it on wired first
[15:38] <bihari> JImmy through apperance option thats in system-preference
[15:38] <FoolsRun> kris756: depending on the wireless card you may need to install proprietary drivers, which you need to get from the internet.
[15:39] <zachary> how do i execute a .so file?
[15:39] <bihari> jimmy__, through apperance option thats in system-preference
[15:39] <FoolsRun> kris756: so is there a cable anywhere you can use?
[15:39] <kris756> let me see if i can find one brb
[15:39] <jimmy__> bazhang,there all in english ,I don't understand,do you have the chinese
[15:40] <bazhang> jimmy__, try in #ubuntu-cn
[15:40] <jimmy__> o k
[15:40] <ksbalaji> erUSUL, I tried to install irssi but got lot of error msgs: http://pastebin.com/Ak3XhFWW  Is my upgrade recoverable?
[15:40] <jimmy__> thanks
[15:40] <jimmy__> bazhang
[15:41] <ksbalaji>  I tried to repair upgrade but got lot of error msgs: http://pastebin.com/Ak3XhFWW  Is my upgrade recoverable?
[15:41] <brontos> have you guys seen any issues with this pulseaudio error and the X crashing? pid.c stale pid file overwriting
[15:42] <fishcooker> how to browse hidden share on pyNeighboorhod
[15:42] <fishcooker> ?
[15:42] <littlepenguin> brontos try to rename home folder .pulse
[15:42] <brontos> littlepenguin, I have done that
[15:42] <littlepenguin> brontos check if pulse is running
[15:42] <littlepenguin> brontos try pulseaudio -k
[15:43] <kris756> i conected the computer t the cable and the internet wrk so its only the wireless that doesnt wotk
[15:43] <brontos> littlepenguin, it is running right now
[15:43] <littlepenguin> so 2nd pulse isnt needed
[15:43] <FoolsRun> kris756: great!
[15:43] <FoolsRun> kris756: go to System\Administration\
[15:43] <FoolsRun> er
[15:43] <FoolsRun> kris756: go to System\Administration\Hardware Drivers
[15:44] <brontos> littlepenguin, it has gotten so bad 5-6 times a day I went ahead and reloaded ubuntu on the laptop and I am still getting this
[15:44] <FoolsRun> kris756: let it detect
[15:44] <brontos> littlepenguin, it was running fine for months and months but Monday this started
[15:45] <kris756> ok
[15:45] <jeroendv> Question: how can I enable the scripts in /etc/update-motd/ to be run automatically?
[15:46] <FoolsRun> kris756: does Hardware Drivers find anything?
[15:47] <anirvana> PLEASE help me with this error : Minimal BASH like line editing is supported.For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions.Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/file completions
[15:47] <littlepenguin> brontos you have added some new hardware to the system?
[15:48] <brontos> littlepenguin, not new hardware.  Well I had my screen replaced last week
[15:48] <brontos> littlepenguin, should be the same screen just one with working pixels
[15:49] <littlepenguin> yes brontos i thought of a new audio device for example
[15:49] <Sonic> hi
[15:49] <Nara00> Hi can someone tell me a description of each of the groups?  I've tried searching the man pages but can't find anything
[15:49] <brontos> littlepenguin, no new audio device I am aware of
[15:49] <littlepenguin> brontos is it working now?
[15:50] <kris756> its still searching for available drivers  i just wait ?
[15:51] <FoolsRun> kris756: yeah. You confirmed that you have internet?
[15:51] <littlepenguin> brontos is your new monitor connected via hdmi??
[15:51] <kris756> yeah only with the cable
[15:51] <brontos> littlepenguin, the laptop works normally  just all of a sudden out of the blue X restarts and I check /var/log/messages and see the above error as well as: main.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus: Connection refused
[15:52] <brontos> littlepenguin, it is the laptop screen I had replaced
[15:52] <littlepenguin> brontos your local interface running and up??
[15:52] <jgcampbell300> hello again, I need to know if it is possible to upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 32bit ..... to Ubuntu 10.04 64bit ... with out losing any of the data or installed apps ?
[15:52] <jgcampbell300> i need the extra ram
[15:52] <bazhang> jgcampbell300, how much ram
[15:53] <FoolsRun> kris756: most wireless cards require proprietary drivers, which is what that tool is looking for. What model is the computer?
[15:53] <jgcampbell300> well im useing 3g right now but thats kuz its 32bit ... i have 4g
[15:53] <brontos> littlepenguin, local interface meaning my display? if so yes
[15:53] <bazhang> jgcampbell300, you could install the pae kernel for 32bit and get all 4
[15:53] <littlepenguin> no brontos i meant if you type: ifconfig in terminal does it show eth0 and lo interface??
[15:54] <jgcampbell300> pae kernel .. is that a flavor of ubuntu or something else all togather ?
[15:54] <abhijit> hello
[15:54] <abhijit> :(
[15:54] <purpzey> Can someone tell me how to upgrade wine to 2.1 in Jaunty?
[15:54] <brontos> littlepenguin, it does show it.
[15:54] <bazhang> jgcampbell300, a kernel, available in the package manager
[15:54] <littlepenguin> purpzey wine actual version is 1.3
[15:54] <guampa> is there a ppa or other repo with newer kernels than the official?
[15:54] <io> !info wine
[15:54] <pkkm> How to browse Ubuntu One account in Nautilus?
[15:54] <bobthebuilder> can anyone help me out for a minute, i just updated to the new kernel and my laptop is all messed up i can't boot
[15:54] <bazhang> jgcampbell300, install linux-generic-pae and it will pull in the rest
[15:54] <jgcampbell300> so if i install pae will it change any of the files installs etc on my computer ... i have alot of stuff installed
[15:55] <littlepenguin> io Darwin Streaming Server
[15:55] <bobthebuilder> when i go in to a shell off a live cd fsck -l is not found
[15:55] <littlepenguin> sry io wrong
[15:55] <bazhang> jgcampbell300, no it wont hurt anything
[15:55]  * guampa dreams of easily installing 2.6.35
[15:55] <bobthebuilder> where is fsck? /usr/bin???
[15:55] <jgcampbell300> cool thanks much
[15:55] <io> !fsck | bobthebuilder
[15:55] <jgcampbell300> gona give it a shot ... is there a way to back up before i try ?
[15:55] <FoolsRun> guampa: I admit ignorance, what will 2.6.36 get you that you need?
[15:55] <FoolsRun> er... .35
[15:56] <bobthebuilder> io : i see its in /sbin/fsck but it won't run on my laptop
[15:56] <littlepenguin> brontos have you changed the config somehow?
[15:56] <bobthebuilder> io : im locked out, can you help me :D
[15:56] <bazhang> jgcampbell300, sure; /msg ubottu backup for some links, but its perfectly safe
[15:56] <aguitel> jgcampbell300, you have /home separate partition?
[15:56] <guampa> FoolsRun: a sweeter kernel :)
[15:56] <io> bobthebuilder: Explain your problem.
[15:56] <jgcampbell300> home is on the same partition
[15:56] <brontos> littlepenguin, I did not change the config originally.  but like I said I went ahead and wiped my drive and reloaded ubuntu
[15:57] <bazhang> jgcampbell300, it wont be affected
[15:57] <bobthebuilder> io:i installed todays update through update manager, when i reboot it says file system errors and to run fsck manually
[15:57] <FoolsRun> guampa: but day-to-day, are there features you need, or are you compulsively early-adopting? :)
[15:57] <jgcampbell300> kk thanks
[15:57] <aguitel> jgcampbell300, you need to backup your data before
[15:57] <bobthebuilder> io: the old kernels in grub don't work either
[15:57] <guampa> FoolsRun: the latter, obviously.
[15:57] <bazhang> aguitel, for installing the pae kernel with 32bit? not really
[15:57] <jgcampbell300> k going to look for backup solutions now ... thanks for the help
[15:57] <littlepenguin> brontos that should not harm your setting normally
[15:57] <bobthebuilder> io: all tell me to do fsck manually, but i put in ubuntu server cd and a USB boot thing and I cannot run fsck off it
[15:57] <Xaratas> hmpf
[15:57] <mbeierl> how do I change the iTunes backup location in gtkpod?  If I change it in the UI and click apply, then exit and restart gtkpod, it's back to its old location.  If I delete the repo and recreate it, it goes back to its old location.
[15:57] <littlepenguin> brontos in pulse log sthg found?
[15:58] <aguitel> bazhang, i am talking to change 32 to 64 bits system
[15:58] <bazhang> aguitel, I was talking about using the pae kernel with 32bit
[15:58] <FoolsRun> guampa: haha! "But why do you need it?"   "Because it's _more awesome!_"
[15:58] <aguitel> bazhang, a ok
[15:58] <Xaratas> anyone has problems of broken dependencies while upgrading the release?
[15:58] <pkkm> How to browse Ubuntu One account in Nautilus?
[15:58] <iceroot> Xaratas: no
[15:58] <bazhang> !ubuntuone > pkkm
[15:58] <brontos> littlepenguin, pulse is logging to syslog.  I will grep messages for sthg
[15:59] <jgcampbell300> oh one more question ... i made the mistake of installing crome ... how do i get my system to reconize that crome is gone and firefox is master
[15:59] <littlepenguin> no brontos i meant something obvious that shows where the error is
[15:59] <joofl> Hey guys do wine have an irc?
[15:59] <Xaratas> no?
[16:00] <guampa> FoolsRun: yes i know, actually i like to lurk the new configs and all, but i haven't got the time as of now to configure a vanilla kernel.org kernel and maybe try to patch it
[16:00] <bazhang> joofl, #winehq
[16:00] <coz_> joofl,   #winegq
[16:00] <coz_> joofl,  no  sorry
[16:00] <bobthebuilder> io: did u see that stuff?
[16:00] <joofl> thank you
[16:00] <coz_> joofl,  #winehq
[16:00] <aguitel> bazhang, kernel pae is better ?
[16:00] <brontos> littlepenguin, I do not see anything obvious other than the lines: Aug  5 10:24:31 brontos pulseaudio[14436]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
[16:00] <brontos> Aug  5 10:24:32 brontos pulseaudio[14436]: main.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-3wi8LQu2cf: Connection refused
[16:00] <coz_> joofl,  make sure it is #winehq
[16:00] <HHx> hi gals/guys. Can someone suggest a networking channel...i have router type questions.
[16:01] <karim88> slt
[16:01] <bazhang> aguitel, a less messy way to get the 4GB recognized than reinstalling with 64bit
[16:01] <brontos> littlepenguin, I can post my messages someplace if you think it will help
[16:01] <guampa> HHx: #networking
[16:01] <HHx> guampa, THANKS
[16:01] <coz_> brontos,   pastebin.com
[16:01] <joofl> Noone is answering me there :(
[16:01] <guampa> np
[16:01] <coz_> joofl,  for the wine channel ???
[16:01] <FoolsRun> rhetorical question: is it me or does ebox mostly suck?
[16:01] <joofl> Yeah coz
[16:02] <abhijit> !patience | joofl
[16:02] <coz_> joofl,  ok where you type here  type   /join #winehq
[16:02] <aguitel> bazhang, only to work with more ram ?
[16:02] <joofl> I'm definitely in the right channel coz
[16:02] <littlepenguin> brontos im looking for it..but i need to go now ..
[16:03] <joofl> It's just a mouse mapping bug i'm experiencing. I guess i'll have to wait.
[16:03] <bobthebuilder> can anyone help me out? my system tries to run fsck and then all these errors just scroll and it stops
[16:03] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: what format is the drive you're trying to fsck?
[16:03] <bobthebuilder> ext4
[16:04] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: okay, that was my only idea ;)
[16:04] <bobthebuilder> Buffer I/O Error on device /dev/sda1
[16:04] <littlepenguin> brontos try to kill pulseaudio and start it manually from terminal and see if error persists..
[16:04] <brontos> littlepenguin: http://pastebin.com/p2FsNeRt
[16:04] <bobthebuilder> i dont get when i boot off a USB or DVD i can't run fsck
[16:04] <purpzey> Can someone help me out, I was trying to install something and now when I type "sudo add-apt-repository" I am getting "env: add-apt-repository: No such file or directory"
[16:05] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: it sounds like your drive is having problems
[16:05] <coz_> purpzey,  how about apt-add
[16:05] <rdavila> Anyone has tried to run firefox-4 with tab candy?
[16:05] <brontos> and its not like the problem persists all day it is just randomly throughout the day
[16:05] <kagekage> When using empathy, is there a way to separate contacts by the protocol they use, or what account they're associated with, similar to what Pidgin automatically does?
[16:05] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: yeah... i want to try running fsck while its not mounted but I am having trouble doing so
[16:05] <welinux>  rdavila: I do (tabs on top)
[16:06] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: I had buffer errors on an external drive, the problem was the enclosure.
[16:06] <purpzey> coz_: Same thing "env: add-apt-repository: No such file or directory"
[16:06] <coz_> rdavila,  not yet but my curiositly has been peaked let me search it
[16:06] <abhijit> kagekage, yes you can categorise them e.g. friend,work, etc
[16:06] <rdavila> I've download the special version of firefox, but when I execute the firefox binary it launch the normal version of firefox installed in my system
[16:06] <FoolsRun> piqued
[16:06] <coz_> purpzey,   which application did you install and how?
[16:06] <jgcampbell300> so if i am to back up everything i have changed on this computer i could say use rsync to copy my home folder and everything in it ... and if i restore that directory to a new build it will install all the software doc's files etc back to the way i have it now ?
[16:06] <purpzey> coz_: "add-apt-repository: No such file or directory"
[16:06] <jgcampbell300> oh and config files
[16:07] <welinux>  rdavila: firefox -P
[16:07] <FoolsRun> purpzey: the command is apt-add-repository
[16:07] <purpzey> coz_: I was trying to install wine...So I could get ies4linux going...I took a lot of steps so far none of them successful.
[16:07] <brontos> coz_, did you get that pastebin?
[16:07] <coz_> brontos,  no I didnt sorry
[16:07] <brontos> coz_, http://pastebin.com/p2FsNeRt
[16:07] <coz_> purpzey,  and did you  just  sudo apt-get install wine??
[16:08] <rdavila> welinux: I've tried this but launch the normal version (3.6) again
, is there anyway to automatically do that for all of a particular protocol (e.g. Facebook chat) or do I have to individually do it for each contact
[16:08] <purpzey> coz_: That is an older version...I am trying to get the newer version.
[16:08] <coz_> purpzey,  hold on
[16:08] <jasonmchristos> how do i expand an lvm?
[16:08] <joofl> Does noone know anything about mouse mapping for wine :( winehq is ignoring me.
[16:08] <FoolsRun> purpzey: the command is apt-add-repository, not add-apt-repository
[16:08] <coz_> purpzey,  did you use this    https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[16:09] <abhijit> kagekage, you have to do individually create new lable e.g. work and then you have to manualy add each contaact to proper lable/filter etc
[16:09] <jasonmchristos> i installed lucid on 20gb encrypted lvm on 80 gb hd how do i expand it?
[16:09] <bobthebuilder> can anyone tell me how to run fsck from a usb bootable?? fsck = /bin/sh command not found
[16:09] <coz_> brontos,   sorry  ...what were you doing with this?
[16:09] <kagekage> Okay, thanks
[16:09] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: what about trying a GPARTED bootable disk? That should have disk repair tools on it.
[16:09] <brontos> coz_, trying to determine why pulse is crashing my X
[16:09] <anirvana> help : Minimal BASH like line editing is supportedFor the first word, TAB lists possible command completions.Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/file completions :(
[16:09] <coz_> brontos,  pulse??
[16:10] <brontos> coz_, yeah pulseaudio
[16:10] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: doesnt the installation cd have a live thing on it? or am i mistaken
[16:10] <coz_> brontos,  oh   sorry... ok I am not the person to help with this issue...and if no one here can  try the #alsa channel  maybe  there is  #pulseaudio channel as well let me check
[16:10] <purpzey> coz_: But I am running 9.04...These instructions are for Karmic...I can't find instructions for 9.04...
[16:10] <coz_> brontos,  there is indeed  #pulseaudio
[16:11] <brontos> coz_, ok thanks
[16:11] <coz_> purpzey,  oh ok hold on
[16:11] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: it does, I'm just trying to think of ways you could fsck your disk without banging your head against the live environment any more :)
[16:11] <welinux> rdavila: it Must work what's wrong with your version? http://itmages.ru/image/preview/47860/83ce54a2
[16:12] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: i dont get why my usb live environment doesnt have fsck lol
[16:12] <coz_> purpzey,  actually  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa   just  where it says  "Overview of all packages published in"  there is a pulldown menu for  ubuntu versions there
[16:13] <rdavila> welinux: It works right now, the problem was that I've to close other firefox related programs(DownloadThemAll)
[16:13] <welinux> rdavila: fine
[16:13] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: did you try apt-get install fsck?
[16:13] <coz_> rdavila,  well isnt firefox 4  beta ?
[16:14] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: i didnt only cause it didnt detect my network config, but ill try that now
[16:14] <rdavila> coz_: yes it's, but you have to download a special build: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tryserver-builds/edward.lee@engineering.uiuc.edu-acd6f0c0fdaf/tryserver-linux/
[16:14] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: im trying to run this live system off a server edition, so it thinks im hardwired
[16:14] <mtm> Morning
[16:14] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: i think atleast
[16:15] <coz_> rdavila,  yes  understood...but it may not integrate well into the system  because it is beta  and therefor probably buggy as heck
[16:15] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: well... have a less complicated set up next time! ;)
[16:15] <mtm> jussi
[16:15] <welinux> rdavila: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473567/ I even wrote a script for nightly builds downloadings
[16:15] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: ;/
[16:15] <rdavila> coz_: yep, for that reason, you don't have to make it your main browser
[16:15] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: seriously though, a gparted livecd (http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php)  would probably do you.
[16:15] <coz_> rdavila,  understood :)
[16:16] <mint> Any way to un format  drive? Clicked wrong one on GParted amazed im not having heart attack yet
[16:16] <rdavila> welinux: cool ;)
[16:16] <FoolsRun> mint: there isn't, no.
[16:16] <welinux> thank you
[16:16] <mint> OH-SHOOT
[16:17] <FoolsRun> backup?
[16:17] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: does it have X i dont know gparted commands well, just curious
[16:17] <mint> Oh well needed to reinstall anyway, i suppose
[16:17] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: yes, it has X
[16:17] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: ok ty im gunna hafta try that
[16:18] <mint> Anything salvageable?
[16:18] <PhilMather> -nicks
[16:18] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: fsck.ext4 -y /dev/sda1 is producing some output i havent seen yet, dunno if thats good or bad! lol
[16:18] <blackxored> how i can get chrome window border style for all my gtk/kde apps?
[16:18] <blackxored> is it possible?
[16:19] <welinux> lackxored: for what?
[16:19] <xangua> blackxored: there is an emerald amd metacity theme inspired by that
[16:20] <xangua> blackxored: here they are :) http://gnome-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=solifex&action=contents
[16:20] <blackxored> xangua, and kde apps?
[16:22] <xangua> blackxored: no idea, you can try the emerald theme with compiz
[16:22] <xangua> ask in #kubuntu maybe¿¿
[16:22] <rpeterson> hey all, I am trying to recover my Grub2 partion here and wanted to make sure I assign the right mount points to things. is root ( / ) or /boot what I should assign to the main drive I had partioned to run Ubuntu from?
[16:23] <Minas> Is it possible by port scanner to find out in which port is eggdrop or bopm, if it is possibke by which scanner can I do?
[16:23] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: now its booting with no errors and hanging after the checks, awesome
[16:24] <bihari> question: i have downloded this http://www.metasploit.com/releases/framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run
[16:24] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: hanging after the whatnow?
[16:24] <bihari> and i have used this command in my terminal chmod +x framework-3.4.0-linux-x86_64.run
[16:24] <coz_> bihari,  what is thi for?
[16:24] <Oer> bihari i think metasploit is not supported in #Ubuntu
[16:24] <bihari> i got this message "chmod: cannot access `framework-3.4.0-linux-x86_64.run': No such file or directory
[16:24] <FoolsRun> "metasploit" sounds super legit
[16:24] <bihari> "
[16:25] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: i was able to run fsck.ext4 -y /dev/sda1, right after it enables like virtual box modules now its hanging
[16:25] <blackxored> xangua, ok i'll try that
[16:25] <sinurge> lol @foolsrun
[16:25] <sinurge> bihari: what is it that you are trying to run
[16:25] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: try recovery mode?
[16:25] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: but i just pressed ESC and i see ubuntu loading bar moving so hopefully it will get me in...
[16:25] <coz_> bihari,  right click the sh file  go to properties  then Permissions tab  and tick the executable box and try again
[16:25] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: yea thats my next try i guess after this progress bar fills and does nothing
[16:25] <fancybit> where can I find the map relationship of the harddisks && /dev?
[16:26] <coz_> bihari,  do you have a web link for that  so I can check it out?
[16:26] <bobthebuilder> fancybit: 'df' in ur shell i think is wut u want
[16:26] <bihari> yes it yes wait
[16:26] <bihari> wait
[16:26] <welinux> bihari: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ sho the commands there
[16:26] <glaucous> Is there a repository for Peazip?
[16:26] <fancybit> thaks it works!
[16:26] <Minas> Is it possible by port scanner to find out in which port is eggdrop or bopm, if it is possibke by which scanner can I do?
[16:26] <mint> Any way to copy an entire iso to a USB
[16:27] <abhijit> bihari, first make it executable chmox +x ./filename.bin
[16:27] <aeon-ltd> mint: dd
[16:28] <figure002> glaucous: don't think so, i haven't found one so far
[16:28] <Gibby13> What is the CLI to launch the network gui manager?
[16:28] <guampa> mint: there's a gui tool in system -> administration
[16:28] <lunavorax> Hi everyone !
[16:28] <coz_> lunavorax,  welcome
[16:28] <glaucous> figure002: Hm okay.
[16:28] <lunavorax> I have a problem w/ Ubuntu 10.04 on my MacBook Pro 5,3
[16:29] <abhijit> !details | lunavorax
[16:29] <lunavorax> It appears that the trackpad acts strangely, so I would like to deactivate the "drag and drog" functionnality of the trackpad.
[16:30] <bihari> now plz check this my status
[16:30] <bihari> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:30] <opij> the text on this page http://www.ubuntu.com/how-can-it-be-free is very lite and hard to read. can someone fix this for the benefit of the community?
[16:30] <lunavorax> abhijit, I told you : Ubuntu 10.04 x64 on MacBook Pro 5,3
[16:30] <bihari> http://img706.imageshack.us/i/10324007.png/ screenshot
[16:30] <Oer> lunavorax, maybe this page is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-3/Lucid
[16:30] <Gibby13> What is the CLI to launch the network gui manager?
[16:30] <io> !terminal | Gibby13
[16:30] <kingofabsinthe> бу
[16:31] <lunavorax> Oer I already been there a couple of times, there's no help about this problem
[16:31] <kingofabsinthe> привет люди
[16:31] <Oer> lunavorax, it gives install instructions on your bmc5974
[16:31] <bihari> http://img706.imageshack.us/i/10324007.png/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/473571/
[16:31] <lunavorax> It's impossible  to deactivate drag and drop ?
[16:31] <lunavorax> Oer I've done it already
[16:31] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: how's it going?
[16:31] <opij> !flood | Pici
[16:31] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me why this will not work ? ssh://username:password@192.168.1.71:422/home/username/backups/nextdir
[16:31] <aeon-ltd> Gibby13: network-manager or gnome-network-manager why can't you launch it via gui?
[16:31] <welinux> kingofabsinthe: инглиш
[16:31] <binzoo> are there any good Web Application Security Testing Tools that can be run on ubuntu
[16:31] <opij> !ru kingofabsinthe
[16:31] <chadi> how do I make an ISO out of a CD?
[16:32] <Gibby13> i am in xfce for mythbuntu using NX since it is headless and it is not where it is supposed to be
[16:32] <opij> !ru | kingofabsinthe
[16:32] <kingofabsinthe> ку
[16:32] <kingofabsinthe> хоть кто то рууский
[16:32] <kingofabsinthe> )))
[16:33] <welinux> bihari: you are working from root?
[16:33] <Pici> opij: I'll be done soon.
[16:33] <marek_> hey guys, i am a real noob in ubuntu. i installed savage 2 and some parts of the screen go white. i checked the forums and they said it is a problem with texture compression. tried to fix it using tutorials but it doesnt work
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> chadi: cd ~; dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/image.iso
[16:33] <bihari> yes roo0t
[16:33] <sinurge> welinux i do not think so
[16:33] <bihari> this one not root
[16:33] <sinurge> bihari pls use sudo chmod...
[16:33] <chadi> ActionParsnip: any specific included app can do that by the way?
[16:34] <lunavorax> Seriously, no help for my touchpad problem ?
[16:34] <sinurge> sudo chmod +x <filename>
[16:34] <welinux> yes :) sudo chmod +x ./binary.bin
[16:34] <welinux> or *.run
[16:34] <marek_> anybody has a different idea?
[16:35] <bobthebuilder> FoolsRun: hey whats your opinion on this: ubuntu progress bar is 100% for a long time doing nothing, it's not frozen tho
[16:35] <bihari> chmod: cannot access `framework-3.4.0-linux-x86_64.run': No such file or directory
[16:35] <cr333d> does anyone know a good way to sync iphone in lucid lynx?
[16:36] <bobthebuilder> bihari: locate framework-3.4.0-linux-x86_64.run
[16:36] <sinurge> bihari: do u see the file when u do ls
[16:36] <bihari> wait
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> chadi: included app? dd is part of a standard install
[16:36] <mpreacher> Hi, I have set up vnc and remote desktop on my desktop at work to be able to access it over vpn from home. Network wise it's fine as I can see the login screen from both tools, but when I am not allowed to put in a password in either one of them as i see the password field being filled in with rubbish automatically and hence can't authenticate ... any idea?
[16:36] <welinux> bihari: maybe begin from that? http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html#skills1
[16:37] <chadi> ActionParsnip: Input/output error
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> chadi: try with sudo then.
[16:37] <chadi> ActionParsnip: I did
[16:37] <bihari> nops its not in ls
[16:37] <bihari> now i understand
[16:37] <cr333d> i read http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-connect-iphoneipod-touch-using-usbin-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html but is slow
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> chadi: run: sudo lshw -C drive; sudo lshw -C disk     make sure you use the right name for the optical drive, you will see the /dev names in the output for the CD drive
[16:37] <sinurge> welinux: the link is pretty good
[16:38] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: sit on it
[16:38] <FoolsRun> bobthebuilder: or try CTRL-ALT-F2
[16:38] <welinux> bihari: sudo find yourfile.run /
[16:39] <chadi> ActionParsnip: /dev/scrom
[16:39] <chadi> cdrom*
[16:39] <welinux> sinurge: ok thanks
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> chadi: ok, cool. adjust ;)
[16:39] <sacarlson>  mpreacher I have done that before remote over VNC and it did work on Ubuntu 8.04.  can't you just backspace if it's already filled in
[16:40] <chadi> ActionParsnip: I did that from the beginning: sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=CD1.iso
[16:40] <sciamano> hello
[16:40] <bihari> Humm its a nice article http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html#skills1
[16:40] <Pici> bihari: Also offtopic.
[16:40] <bihari> yes :p
[16:40] <welinux> bihari: right click in firefox downloading box on your file and choose open the downloading directory
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> chadi: burning apps also had image burners, I believe
[16:40] <bihari> yes i did that welinux
[16:41] <bihari> be right back
[16:41] <Aneglus> ><
[16:41] <chadi> ActionParsnip: can you list a few of these apps?
[16:42] <tesuji> on a mostly idle system i have constant disk accesses - how can i find out what;s doing it?
[16:42] <welinux>  Pici: look at that it's about ubuntu it's not offtopic yet http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html#skills2 (But in 2006-2007, an actual best choice emerged: Ubuntu.)
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> !burning | chadi
[16:42] <cristian_> ciao raga siete italiani?
[16:42] <chadi> ActionParsnip: thank you :)
[16:42] <Pici> welinux: this channel is only for Ubuntu support. Other topics belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:42] <welinux> cristian_: #ubuntu-it?
[16:43] <Pici> !it | cristian_
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> welinux: ubuntu is not best in all situations
[16:43] <welinux> Pici: ok the rules
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> welinux: thus not best
[16:43] <chadi> brasero outputs toc and cue files .. not iso :/
[16:43] <welinux> ActionParsnip: I know but it's the first for newbies
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> welinux: i'd disagree. Ubuntu is the first to say its for Linux virgins. but its offtopic as pici says
[16:45] <cristian_> io non sono italiano !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:45] <mtm> Fedora is better
[16:45] <io> !it | cristian_
[16:45] <mtm> but thats IMHO
[16:45] <abhijit> !ot
[16:46] <mtm> Does any other linux have a bible app then ubuntu?
[16:46] <mtm> out of the box
[16:46] <jrib> mtm: probably christian ubuntu
[16:46] <Oer> mtm bible is open source, not maintained.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> mtm: churchpup
[16:46] <mtm> lol
[16:47] <mtm> Im not knocking it
[16:47] <mtm> Im just ssayin
[16:47] <mtm> Listen
[16:47] <mtm> I know this guy who uses ubuntu too and he reads the bible
[16:47] <xangua> stop please mtm
[16:47] <mtm> Ive never seen the bible in linux out of the box
[16:47] <mtm> okay...
[16:47] <xangua> !ot > mtm
[16:48] <SandGorgon> what app do you guys use (non coomandline) to encrypt data ?
[16:48] <mtm> Wtf?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> mtm: churchpup is an alternative, also quit hammering ENTER, you are scrolling the channel
[16:48] <abhijit> SandGorgon, truecrypt
[16:48] <mtm> what is xangua's problem
[16:48] <mtm> are we not talking about linux?
[16:49] <jrib> mtm: this channel is specifically for ubuntu support, not anything about linux/ubuntu
[16:49] <BGL-[b]> how fast of a cpu/machine do i need to run HD flash? :/
[16:49] <abhijit> mtm join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:49] <welinux> mtm: rules are the strength
[16:49] <SandGorgon> abhijit, i thought trucrypt was commandline on linux
[16:49] <mtm> lol anythign to control
[16:49] <abhijit> SandGorgon, i dont think so. just check their web site
[16:49] <mtm> now i cant talk
[16:49] <mtm> lmao
[16:49] <jpds> SandGorgon: You can use cryptsetup, which has graphical frontends.
[16:50] <mtm> I dont feel like going to that room
[16:50] <jrib> mtm: that's fine, you don't have to.  But in this room please keep the discussion related to ubuntu support (and stop using enter to break up your sentences)
[16:50] <jpds> SandGorgon: Such as the Disk Utility program in System → Admin.
[16:50] <mtm> Ill do what i please
[16:50] <mtm> THANKS
[16:50] <mtm> lol
[16:53] <welinux> mtm: we all working for solving https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> welinux: I'm not
[16:53] <Pici> welinux: Hes gone.
[16:54] <welinux> ActionParsnip: and for what this channel for ?
[16:54] <piercedwater> Hello. I am getting the following error, which prevents me from booting: "initL ureadahead-other main process (687) terminated with status 4" I have read that this is an fstab issues. Can anyone help?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> welinux: supporting ubuntu.
[16:54] <welinux> I mean that
[16:55] <ikonia> !topic > welinux
[16:55] <Archdave> Topic in #ubuntu is Topic in #ubuntu is !topic > welinux
[16:55] <Archdave> Topic in #ubuntu is !topic > welinux
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> welinux: you lost me, it's also offtopic
[16:56] <franta> Hi! Anyone knows how to switch webcam to outdoor mode in ubuntu ?
[16:56] <ikonia> franta: depends if your driver supports it
[16:56] <franta> it works in windows...
[16:56] <piercedwater> Anyone?
[16:56] <ikonia> franta: you're not using windows though
[16:56] <ikonia> !anyone > piercedwater
[16:57] <anirvana> I have a dual boot system, what should be 'root=/dev/XXX ro 3' what should be XXX for me? Please help, I am loading the kernel :
[16:57] <ikonia> anirvana: are you using 10.04 ~?
[16:57] <Black_Prince> anirvana pastebin your fdisk -l
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> piercedwater: boot to livecd and fsck your partitions
[16:57] <anirvana> I am using 9.04 ikonia
[16:57] <ikonia> anirvana: ok, so the /dev/xxx should be the device file for your root file system, eg: /ev/sda1
[16:58] <franta> ikonia: I know...:) but I think I have switched it earlier but I can't remember how... v4l2ucp doesn't show anything related ... it's genius ilook 111 it uses gspca driver
[16:58] <piercedwater> ActionParnsip: do I have to format?
[16:58] <anirvana> ikoni , are you sure xxx=sda1
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> piercedwater: no, just make sure the partitions are healthy
[16:58] <piercedwater> ActionParnsip: ok, I'll try that
[16:59] <anirvana> ikoni , Actually I tried this but when I tried boot command I couldn't the filesystem devices
[16:59] <sacarlson> anirvana you would have to run fdisk or gparted to find out what your disk are called but sda and sdb is what I see  so sda1 or sda2 if you only have one disk
[16:59] <anirvana> ikoni , Actually I tried this but when I tried boot command It couldn't load the filesystem devices
[16:59] <franta> ikonia: what would one use to switch it ? v4l2ucp ?
[16:59] <ikonia> anirvana: what's the exact error
[16:59] <ikonia> franta: I have no idea
[16:59] <zulgaban> my old p4 my wife called it a "door-stopper" has been revived and now runs ubuntu lucid lynx complete as an isp-level mail server for my own family use XD. i thought it was dead after 10 years being a "door-stopper"...
[16:59] <anirvana> ikonia : I am fixing this "Minimal BASH like line editing is supportedFor the first word, TAB lists possible command completions.Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/file completions"
[17:00] <chadi> how can I know if ubuntu is recognizing my IR receiver?
[17:00] <anirvana> ikonia : thus I am loading the grub manually
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> zulgaban: linux on average uses less resources than windows, specially in the installation footprint ;)
[17:00] <mr_hai> is b43-fwcutter installed in 10.04 ?
[17:00] <Black_Prince> anirvana type ls in grub rescue menu
[17:00] <ikonia> anirvana: the device file needs to be the device file for the root file system, thats all it should be
[17:00] <sacarlson> anivana I also had to modify my /etc/fstab to not use that id number and just use the /dev/sdaX
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> mr_hai: i believe its optional but should be on the install CD
[17:01] <anirvana> Black_Prince : I did that
[17:01] <Black_Prince> So what do you get?
[17:01] <zulgaban> ActionParsnip: i am glad i learned linux esp. ubuntu a few years back XD
[17:01] <anirvana> Black_Prince : (loop0) (hda0) (hda..) ( )...
[17:01] <Black_Prince> do you have any other operating systems installed?
[17:01] <zulgaban> nope.
[17:01] <ikonia> anirvana: are you sure it's not hd0 and not hda0
[17:02] <cristian_> chi siete??????
[17:02] <ikonia> anirvana: grub references hd0 not hda, and for the root devices it should be sdx(something)
[17:02] <Black_Prince> hd0 is hda1
[17:02] <anirvana> Black_Prince , ikonia : sorry, Its hd0
[17:02] <Black_Prince> hd1 is hda2
[17:03] <Black_Prince> Sorry my mistake, hd0 is hda and hd1 is hdb
[17:03] <ikonia> Black_Prince: don't reference hda/hdb
[17:03] <anirvana> so what should I do now?
[17:03] <ikonia> Black_Prince: 9.04 uses a later libata which references ALL disks as scsi, so sda, sdb, sdc etc
[17:03] <franta> isn't it like hd(0,1) ?
[17:03] <franta> for hda 1
[17:03] <franta> hda1
[17:04] <piercedwater> How do I remove an Fstab entry if ubuntu won't boot?
[17:04] <Black_Prince> What grub version does 9.04 use? Legacy or v2 ?
[17:04] <jrib> piercedwater: live cd
[17:04] <piercedwater> ok thanks
[17:04] <sacarlson> piercedwater ya live cd will do it
[17:04] <aguitel> Black_Prince, legacy
[17:04] <franta> or maybe single user mode?
[17:05] <anirvana> Black_Prince , ikonia : I have a dual boot system, so I am going to restart to find the output of fdisk command.Any other command I should try?
[17:05] <abhijit> Namaste!!!!!
[17:05] <abhijit> :D
[17:05] <Kevin07> Hello all!
[17:05] <Kevin07> I have a user question / issue
[17:05] <Black_Prince> anirvana
[17:05] <Aaron2> hey guys , I have installed ubuntu (fresh 10.04) from USB (after it wont boot from CD or USB , usb boots only with nomodeset parm) now screen goes black after choosing ubuntu from grub and system seems to be up (can hear startup audio playing) yet screen is blacked out. (with "nomodeset" on from grub I get CAPSLOCK and SCROLLLCOK leds blinking and system hang black screened) what can I do to fix that ?
[17:05] <Kevin07> I guess when I installed or created my main user I had a typo?
[17:05] <abhijit> !ask | Kevin07
[17:05] <sacarlson> anirvana gparted works also if you have a x11 system up
[17:05] <Kevin07> My fault
[17:05] <anirvana> Black_Prince , ?
[17:06] <Black_Prince> sorry
[17:06] <Black_Prince> I didn't want anything
[17:06] <Black_Prince> try booting off live cd if you have it
[17:06] <Kevin07> Well, you can see the issue here: kevin:x:1000:1000:kevin,,,:/home/kevin:/bin/bash
[17:06] <Kevin07> the three commas
[17:06] <anirvana> sacarlson , what do you mean? :(
[17:06] <Kevin07> They show up when I mail ppl
[17:06] <sacarlson> anirvana but fdisk will work in any command window and that's all you need
[17:06] <s0crates> hi I was wondering how to get internet address of an audio stream that I get via flash. Can I monitor http traffic and see where a connection is established when I hit play?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Aaron2: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/caps-lock-and-scroll-lock-flashing-47433/
[17:06] <scott__> I have an issue with xorg that I can't seem to solve. First, I have no xorg.conf file anywhere on my system, and when I try to run xorg -configure I get told to basically go fish. Can someone please help me?
[17:06] <Kevin07> How can i get rid of the commas? I didn't dare just delete them from the passwd file
[17:07] <ikonia> Kevin07: delete it from the password file, or delete the user totally and re-add it
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> scott__: run: Xorg --configure    in a root recovery console, should be fine
[17:07] <bihari> oki guys i have downloded this "framework-3.4.1linux-i686.run in my root directory folder and when i am using sudo chmod +x framework-3.4.0-linux-x86_64.run i getchmod: cannot access `framework-3.4.0-linux-x86_64.run': No such file or directory
[17:07] <bihari>  
[17:07] <Kevin07> It will not give me a problem logging in right?
[17:07] <mr_hai> ActionParsnip, will it require an internet connection to activate the drivers for the bcm chip?
[17:07] <scott__> thats from the boot menu?
[17:07] <anirvana> Black_Prince , sacarlson : After typing fdisk -1 , what should I look for? How do I find XXX from its output?
[17:07] <Kevin07> I believe that section is just an 'alias' for the user
[17:07] <sacarlson> anirvana all you need as super user is fdisk -l  to get a list of disk that you system sees
[17:07] <Kevin07> And changing it shouldn't do anything bad
[17:07] <aeon-ltd> bihari: double check, cd into that folder again and use tab completion to reduce errors
[17:07] <Black_Prince> can you copy it?
[17:08] <kagekage> Kevin07, you can also go here http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-change-rename-user-name-id/
[17:08] <ikonia> Kevin07: it's not an alias
[17:08] <dublinchore> hi.  can someone help me out with this boot problem. i installed the b43 broadcom driver on my netbook but my boot still hangs on this line 3/4 of the time : b43-pci-bridge 000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[17:08] <ikonia> Kevin07: /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow are the real files that hold your real user data
[17:08] <kagekage> Kevin07, that should allow you to change your login-name easily
[17:08] <Kevin07> Now that is nice
[17:08] <Kevin07> usermod
[17:08] <Kevin07> To be ran with root permissions im sure
[17:08] <anirvana> cya
[17:08] <sacarlson> anirvana just send us what you see you should see the sdaX  that are seen on your system
[17:09] <kagekage> Yes, with root
[17:09] <anirvana> ok
[17:09] <bihari> aeon-ltd,  its says "Could not open the file /home/roo0t/framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run."
[17:09] <bihari> gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[17:09] <bihari> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[17:09] <bihari> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.
[17:09] <Kevin07> You do know that i can normally just login with 'kevin' , i don't need the commas to login
[17:09] <pondera> could anyone direct me to a guid on installing ubuntu server on vmware
[17:09] <Aaron2> ActionParsnip: the system wont even finish booting will stuck right after "..sensors limit [OK]"  and its a clean install .. what actions should I take ?
[17:10] <Kevin07> I think it a 'real name'
[17:10] <pondera> !vmware
[17:10] <bihari> ?
[17:10] <Kevin07> with the commas
[17:10] <littlepenguin> pondera start vmware create new machine insert iso for boot and install
[17:10] <justinstalledluc> i have just installed ubuntu 10.04 . I liked the chat widget in top right panel. Is there anyway to get my frnds list without starting empathy?
[17:10] <pondera> no special settings littlepemgiom ?
[17:10] <Pici> !who | Kevin07
[17:11] <littlepenguin> pondera you should adjust the amount of ram aso
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Aaron2: hold down shift before grub loads and select root recovery, you can do stuff there
[17:11] <pondera> littlepenguin thanks alot
[17:11] <Kevin07> ubottu: Good idea, Im in terminal so I cannot tell how large really...i do see lots of typing though
[17:11] <blinkyb> gwibber doesnt play sound when someone leaves me a message. settings are already on for sounds. what could be wrong??
[17:11] <littlepenguin> !iq
[17:12] <bihari> ? any one here? who can help me
[17:12] <littlepenguin> whats up bihari
[17:12] <littlepenguin> just ask
[17:12] <dublinchore> anyone can help me with the broadcom b43 drivers?
[17:12] <xangua> blinkyb: i see no gwibber sound notification option
[17:12] <piercedwater> I booted from Live CD, after verifying the CD's integrity, it rebooted and my system still won't boot passed the BIOS, even with Live CD inserted.
[17:12] <bihari> NOne special without this metaspoilt frame work
[17:12] <littlepenguin> hah <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iq
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom  | dublinchore
[17:12] <justinstalledluc> I just installed lucid lynx. I liked the chat widget in top right panel. Is there anyway to get my frnds list without starting empathy?
[17:12] <xangua> blinkyb: only visual notification
[17:12] <bihari> i am trying to install this metaspoilt on ubuntu
[17:12] <blinkyb> xangua: empathy sorry
[17:13] <justinstalledluc> right from desktop istelf?
[17:13] <littlepenguin> yes biahari wehats the problem
[17:13] <xangua> blinkyb: sorry, i don't use empathy
[17:13] <Black_Prince> piercedwater have you setup your bios boot from cd before booting from hard drive?
[17:13] <bihari> framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run i have downloded this
[17:13] <sacarlson> piercedwater: does your screen go black or do you see an error?
[17:13] <bihari> and i dont know what to do next
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> bihari: http://www.metasploit.com/redmine/projects/framework/wiki/Install_Ubuntu
[17:14] <piercedwater> Black_Prince: Yes. When I remove my USB HDD it boots to CD. I think it is something with my USB HDD
[17:14] <xangua> justinstalledluc: is not a chat widget, it's for posting new updates to your soccial accounts
[17:14] <welinux>  bihari: find aaa.run /
[17:14] <littlepenguin> yes bihari open a terminal go into folder where the script is and type ./framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run
[17:14] <pepper_haze> does anyone here know how you can add commands to the command line?
[17:14] <bihari> ActionParsnip,  i just go through it
[17:14] <justinstalledluc> xangua: thnx :) so can I see my online frnds list right from there?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> pepper_haze: you can use aliases in ~/.bashrc or make executable files in $PATH
[17:14] <littlepenguin> pepper you mean own conmmands??you can do it with alias
[17:14] <Black_Prince> !aliases
[17:15] <bihari> ok
[17:15] <xangua> justinstalledluc: no
[17:15] <Black_Prince> piercedwater you are using USB hard drive?
[17:15] <piercedwater> Yes, I have internals as well
[17:15] <Black_Prince> What is your bios?
[17:15] <justinstalledluc> xangua: ok
[17:15] <bihari> bash: ./framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run: Permission denied << it says
[17:16] <pepper_haze> ActionParsnip, what is ~/.bashrc?
[17:16] <piercedwater> Black_Prince AMIBIOS 2001
[17:16] <littlepenguin> bihari make it executable first with sudo chmod +x framework.-...-i686.run
[17:16] <Kevin07> Kagekage: Im not trying to change the login name of the user, as I can login normall with just 'kevin'.  The annoyance i have here is when i email some1 it shows up as 'kevin,,,@myserver.com'
[17:16] <Kevin07> kagekage: kevin:x:1000:1000:kevin,,,:/home/kevin:/bin/bash
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> pepper_haze: open it in gedit, you will see the aliases already defined for you
[17:17] <Kevin07> kagekage: the login is good but the second name is no good
[17:17] <bihari> chmod: cannot access `framework.-...-i686.run': No such file or directory
[17:17] <Pici> Kevin07: chfn
[17:17] <pepper_haze> ActionParsnip, what path is it located in?
[17:17] <littlepenguin> bihari you should name the file correctly
[17:17] <Pici> bihari: You need to put in the actual name of the file there.
[17:17] <scott__> how do you get to the recovery menu upon boot?
[17:17] <scott__> I pressed escape and got squat
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> pepper_haze: ~/.bashrc is the absolute file
[17:18] <Oer> scott__, press left SHIFt at boot.
[17:18] <scott__> thank you oer
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> pepper_haze: or /home/$USER/.bashrc    or $HOME/.bashrc
[17:18] <piercedwater> Can I run fsck from the netinstall CD?
[17:18] <Kevin07> pici: chfn?
[17:18] <marginoferror> Hello.  Can anyone help me figure out why control-alt-F* does not switch to console in my 10.04 install?
[17:18] <anirvana> fdisk command isn't working.How do I find XXX now?
[17:18] <PinkSombrero> Heya
[17:18] <PinkSombrero> Im new here
[17:18] <Pici> Kevin07: Its a cli command to change your fullname information.
[17:18] <PinkSombrero> Could i get some help?
[17:18] <scott__> I'm sure I'll be back, been bashing on this dang this for over an hour just trying to get xorg to give me a frakking config file
[17:18] <Pici> !ask | PinkSombrero
[17:19] <PinkSombrero> Oh, okay ^^
[17:19] <PinkSombrero> I didnt want to be intrusive
[17:19] <Black_Prince> piercedwater is your bios like this one? http://obrazki.elektroda.net/67_1235056901.jpg
[17:19] <PinkSombrero> Well, ive been trying to install ubuntu for the past while
[17:19] <anirvana> I repeat my question, what should be XXX for 'root=/dev/XXX ro 3' I am loading my kernel
[17:19] <PinkSombrero> As in, noon yesterday
[17:19] <ghatu> hello using karmic when i connect gsm phone to pc via usb to connect to net, no problem i can browse. i want to know when i connect usb to pc it shows some messges " GSM Network Disconnected you are now ofline " what does this messg mean ?
[17:19] <Rada> Hi, i'm trying to pull a prank at the office and for this I need an app that can draw me a grid of any size. Also it should be easy to paste text into this grid.
[17:19] <piercedwater> Black_Prince: similar, yes
[17:19] <Kevin07> Pici: when i chfn it actually doesn't let me change the fullname it skips that, but it shows just Kevin then goes on
[17:19] <anirvana> and fdisk -1 isn't valid
[17:19] <Black_Prince> And is CDROM first boot device?
[17:19] <Rada> Anybody got an idea?
[17:19] <bihari> is it a right command "sudo chmod +x framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run"
[17:19] <piercedwater> Yes Black_prince
[17:20] <Black_Prince> Strange
[17:20] <piercedwater> Black_PrinceL I disconnected the USB HDD and now I can boot into Netinstall CD. I dont know what to do from there?
[17:20] <littlepenguin> yes bihari if its the right name of the file you want to make executable
[17:20] <Pici> Kevin07: Try: chfn -f "Kevin Lastname"
[17:20] <IdleOne> !details | PinkSombrero
[17:20] <PinkSombrero> Im typing my question up right now ??
[17:20] <bihari> roo0t@root-0s:~$ sudo chmod +x framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run roo0t@root-0s:~$
[17:21] <PinkSombrero> *^
[17:21] <bihari> nuthing happen
[17:21] <PinkSombrero> **^^
[17:21] <littlepenguin> yes biahri its done
[17:21] <littlepenguin> now its executable
[17:21] <sacarlson> PinkSombrero:  all I know is you want to install ubuntu so what have you done?
[17:21] <PinkSombrero> Im typing mah question up, give me a minute
[17:21] <IdleOne> ok
[17:21] <bihari> ./framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run << now this one
[17:21] <littlepenguin> now use ./framework....-i686.run
[17:21] <littlepenguin> yes
[17:21] <anirvana> sacarlson , Black_Prince : fdisk not working :(
[17:21] <welinux> pepper_haze: add aliases there http://itmages.ru/image/preview/47874/e46440af
[17:22] <Rada> oh nevermind
[17:22] <HHx> Is there a way to save updates to disk (due to no internet) rather than using apt-get?
[17:22] <Black_Prince> anirvana have you booted from Live CD?
[17:22] <sacarlson> anirvana: you must be super user
[17:22] <anirvana> Black_Prince : no
[17:22] <sacarlson> anirvana: try sudo fdisk
[17:22] <anirvana> sacarlson I get the error 'invalid command'
[17:23] <bihari> Error: The installer must be executed as the root user. its says at the bottom
[17:23] <pondera> if i install ubunterserver with a bridges network using vmware can i access it from the internet using portforwarding ?
[17:23] <sacarlson> anirvana: did you try sudo fdisk and get that?
[17:23] <anirvana> sacarlson I didn't try with sudo
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> bihari: use tab to complete the name of the file
[17:23] <Black_Prince> anirvana on what system are you now?
[17:23] <IdleOne> bihari: sudo ./framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run
[17:23] <littlepenguin> pondera its handled as an own machine in the network
[17:23] <PinkSombrero> And it isnt working very well. The download keeps screwing up and stuff. It ends up stopping halfway through and not starting up again, or it only downloads like half of it yet says its downloaded completely so I decided to ignore that and see if it would work anyways, but it wouldnt. So ive decided to download it again so that i can burn the iso to my flash drive and boot my netbook up from the flash drive, since thats apparentl
[17:24] <pondera> koo
[17:24] <sr_rules> @ pondera ya its possible
[17:24] <PinkSombrero> Shit, thats one wall of text.
[17:24] <piercedwater> How do I get to a terminal window from the Net Install CD?
[17:24] <anirvana> I got this error :Minimal BASH like line editing is supportedFor the first word, TAB lists possible command completions.Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/file completions and I am at grub prompt| sacarlson Black_Princ
[17:24] <anirvana> I got this error :Minimal BASH like line editing is supportedFor the first word, TAB lists possible command completions.Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/file completions and I am at grub prompt| Black_Prince
[17:25] <PinkSombrero> :/
[17:25] <IdleOne> !usb > PinkSombrero
[17:25] <Black_Prince> piercedwater https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[17:25] <bihari> yes thanks ActionParsnip  and IdleOne
[17:25] <IdleOne> !md5 > PinkSombrero
[17:25] <Black_Prince> is that maybe what you are looking for?
[17:25] <Black_Prince> anirvana, do you have Ubuntu Live CD?
[17:25] <sacarlson> anirvana: this is as far as you get in a boot CD?  you must only get to grub command prompt
[17:26] <piercedwater> wow you guys are a real big help
[17:26] <anirvana> Black_Prince : No
[17:26] <Black_Prince> anirvana do you have other operating systems on that machine?
[17:26] <anirvana> sacarlson : No I didn't, after a power failure when I restarted I got this error
[17:27] <anirvana> Black_Prince : yes, windows(I am using it right now)
[17:27] <Black_Prince> Was windows installed before or after Ubuntu?
[17:27] <mythril> update-grub has been stalling every time I try to update my Kernel (via the graphical Update Manager), how do I find out what is going wrong?
[17:27] <Kevin07> Pici: permission denied!
[17:27] <sacarlson>  anirvana: sounds like you need a live boot and do a fsck thing to fix you boot disk
[17:28] <anirvana> sacarlson : what should I do now?
[17:28] <bihari> roo0t@root-0s:~$ sudo chmod +x framework-3.4.1- << this will execute the file? right
[17:28] <sacarlson>  anirvana: try a live cd boot
[17:28] <Kevin07> pici: and when i sudo to do it, nothing changed within passwd
[17:29] <anirvana> sacarlson I don't have live cd :(
[17:29] <bastid_raZor> bihari: no, it will make the file able to be executed
[17:29] <sacarlson>  anirvana: is there any other boot partions on any of you disks?
[17:29] <c3l> how do I link to a file /foo/bar in my http server that has its root at /var/www?
[17:29] <SuperL4g> 甘えん坊なネコほか
[17:29] <SuperL4g> sorry
[17:29] <Black_Prince> anirvana have you installed ubuntu before or after windows?
[17:30] <anirvana> sacarlson : I have installed ubuntu on my windows, I never created a new free partition for ubuntu
[17:30] <sacarlson>  anirvana: without at least a single user boot not much you can do
[17:30] <anirvana> Black_Prince : over windows(after)
[17:30] <bihari> ./framework-3.4.1-linux-i686.run << now this one
[17:30] <Black_Prince> you may try using sda5 in kernel line
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> bihari: as long as that is the 100% correct filename, including case, yes
[17:30] <Kevin07> I see my problem is within the User ID section
[17:30] <sacarlson>  anirvana: ok then use window to download a boot disk or maybe you have an iso file already to burn or try
[17:31] <Kevin07> kevin:x:1000:1000:kevin,,,:/home/kevin:/bin/bash
[17:31] <Black_Prince> root (hd0,4)
[17:31] <Kevin07> I need to change that to just kevin
[17:31] <Kevin07> user ID info
[17:31] <bihari> ok i have writeen this command in my copy :p so that i can remeber thats why i am asking again
[17:31] <bihari> :p
[17:31] <ikonia> Kevin07: a.) use the gui b.) use usermod
[17:31] <anirvana> Black_Prince : ?
[17:31] <Black_Prince> kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda5 ro
[17:31] <Black_Prince> initrd /initrd
[17:31] <Black_Prince> boot
[17:31] <Kevin07> ikonia: no gui (ubuntu server)
[17:31] <Black_Prince> try this in grub rescue menu
[17:31] <Kevin07> ill check usermod
[17:32] <ikonia> Kevin07: then you need to learn how to admin a server
[17:32] <mhb> my Wireless cant Work on Ubuntu 10.10
[17:32] <Kevin07> ikonia: I never had this problem before
[17:32] <ikonia> Kevin07: usermod will allow you to change user credentials from the command line
[17:32] <ikonia> mhb: 10.10 discussion in the #ubuntu+1 channel please
[17:32] <mythril> update-grub is stalling for me, is there anywhere I can look to find out what is going wrong?
[17:32] <lighter> hii, i would like to know if there is a way to send files over lan...... please let me know, if you know any :)
[17:33] <sacarlson> mhb: that sucks hope you don't have broadcom wifi device.  I never got mine to work but they say they will
[17:33] <anirvana> Black_Prince , sacarlson : I am trying those commands http://pastebin.com/bUNTkwuA
[17:33] <ikonia> lighter: many ways, can you provide more detail of what you want
[17:33] <bihari> mhb, check this out https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/115066
[17:33] <io> Kevin07: That isn't something you have done wrong, it often inserts commas. What difference does it make?
[17:33] <Black_Prince> try this
[17:33] <Black_Prince> http://pastebin.com/bUNTkwuA
[17:34] <Black_Prince> whoops thats yours, anirvana try these http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/YiJtzQXa
[17:34] <Kevin07> io: well when i email it shows up and thats weird ie: kevin,,, (kevin@mydomain.com)
[17:34] <Kevin07> who the heck wants taht?!?
[17:34] <Kevin07> and also i noticed that when i installed mysql it put ",,," after it also
[17:34] <batshwa> hi, everybody.  i've got a problem with mandb: the processes man[-]db freeze my pc whenever they run in the background (which happens quite often per default).  the cpu is not at 100% but the system takes no input at all.  after 4-5 minutes the system recovers, dmesg showing a i/o error at some sector on my hard drive.  does anybody know how to look for a solution to this problem?
[17:34] <Kevin07> mysql:x:105:111:MySQL Server,,,:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/false
[17:34] <ikonia> Kevin07: what are you talking about ??
[17:34] <ikonia> Kevin07: you said you wanted to change your user credentials, now you're referncing your email from address ??
[17:35] <sacarlson> anirvana:  If you are looking to find a working boot I think I would try a supergrub boot disk
[17:35] <Kevin07> its not email from address
[17:35] <Kevin07> its in passwd file
[17:35] <io> Kevin07: "usermod -c "FirstName LastName" <user>".
[17:35] <ikonia> Kevin07: what command are you using ?
[17:36] <sacarlson> anirvana: this is the broken after power fail so that might find a fix for you  supergrub
[17:36] <io> Likely that his e-mail client fetches the real name field from the user credentials, same as irssi etc.
[17:36] <Kevin07> ikonia: whats good?
[17:36] <ikonia> Kevin07: I didn't say anything about good
[17:36] <Euthanatos> is there some way i can record libvisual into an MPEG stream?
[17:36] <ikonia> Kevin07: I asked what command you are using to change the credentials (exactly what command)
[17:36] <sacarlson> anirvana:  otherwize try the ubuntu live cd boot with fsck to test the disk for errors
[17:36] <io> Kevin07: The command is above, anyhow.
[17:37] <Kevin07> io: that you, that worked
[17:37] <anirvana> sacarlson what is supergrub boot disk?
[17:37] <pondera> i just installed ubuntu server,  is there a gui i can access or is it all command prompt ?
[17:37] <io> Kevin07: Yes, the man pages also tend to work.
[17:37] <Kevin07> io: im in them
[17:37] <iceroot> pondera: ssh, why installed ubuntu-server if you want a gui?
[17:37] <littlepenguin> pondera server is without xserver
[17:37] <Kevin07> io: for man chfn
[17:37] <xangua> pondera: comand, that's why it's server
[17:37] <Kevin07> i was trying chfn -f
[17:37] <ikonia> pondera: why did you not install ubuntu desktop ?
[17:37] <ikonia> pondera: that comes with a lot of tools ready to go ?
[17:38] <pondera> i just wanted to mess around with the server i though it had been like for instance windows server that has a gui
[17:38] <Kevin07> Thank you for help, I didn't appreciate the harshness but I have a hard shell
[17:38] <littlepenguin> pondera fe you could install webmin and access the webgui through network
[17:38] <anirvana> Black_Prince : Are those the complete commands? just /initrd
[17:39] <ikonia> pondera: the desktop and the server are the same core package, using the desktop version would be a better learning tool
[17:39] <iceroot> pondera: ubuntu-server is the same as the normal ubuntu but without x-server ad with pae-kernel
[17:39] <mamat> hi, how can i get a list of installed packages? like 'dpkg -l' but with just package names of installed ones
[17:39] <pondera> i seee
[17:39] <iceroot> pondera: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to have the gui
[17:39] <ikonia> pondera: I suggest you install the desktop version, it's just as good a product for a home user and has a lot of useful tools to help you learn
[17:39] <Black_Prince> anirvana /initrd is symlink to /boot/initrd.img-2.6.xx-xx-generic
[17:39] <iceroot> pondera: but remeber, a real server does not need a gui, its just a useless waste to have a gui on a server
[17:40] <pondera> ausome thanks so much for the info
[17:40] <Black_Prince> whoops it is /initrd.img
[17:40] <anirvana> Black_Prince : Ah ok and just 'ro' not 'ro 3' ?
[17:40] <pondera> iceroot good point , but i should learn in the gui first
[17:40] <Kevin07> ikonia: Many learning users have been BOLDLY told to install ubuntu-server because "ubuntu-desktop" is less secure.
[17:40] <ikonia> Kevin07: no it's not
[17:40] <Kevin07> and for a server...most of them don't have monitors
[17:40] <ikonia> Kevin07: the desktop version is not less secure than the server version
[17:40] <iceroot> Kevin07: never heard someone saying that
[17:40] <littlepenguin> but the version depends on the needs
[17:41] <pondera> right
[17:41] <ikonia> Kevin07: you don't need a monitor for the desktop version
[17:41] <Black_Prince> I just used ro
[17:41] <ikonia> Kevin07: but as he's asking for a gui - I'm assuming he has a monitor
[17:41] <anirvana> ok
[17:41] <Black_Prince> change initrd line to "initrd /initrd.img"
[17:41] <anirvana> Black_Prince : brb after restarting and trying those commands
[17:41] <Kevin07> Agreed, VNC does exist as well
[17:41] <sacarlson> !supergrub
[17:41] <abhijit> hello
[17:42] <dreamer000> hello
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Kevin07: lots of apps have web interfaces so vnc often isnt needed
[17:42] <scott__> ok this thing can't be any more difficult. I can't get my recovery console to show because the frakking graphics won't work. Xorg is hosed and I can't get to any point ppl are telling me to fix it. HELP!!!! I am stuck in 800x600 resolution on a 1920x1600 screen!!!!!!
[17:42] <ikonia> Kevin07: that still doesn't change the fact of he doesn't need the sever install
[17:42] <ikonia> scott__: that low resolution is usable to fix the issue
[17:43] <chadi> ActionParsnip: dd didn't work because it's an audio CD, fyi :)
[17:43] <scott__> yeah no kidding .... how do I get out of it??  it won't change and I can't see the recovery console to run xorg --configure
[17:43] <ikonia> scott__: first of all, what video card do you have ?
[17:44] <scott__> I have the intel package for g43/g45 and I have the xorg-intel package AND it says its installed (but obviously not working)
[17:44] <ikonia> scott__: what exact video card do you have
[17:44] <scott__> intel g43/g45 integrated
[17:44] <ikonia> scott__: ok - so this is a laptop ?
[17:45] <scott__> no, desktop
[17:45] <scott__> asus
[17:45] <ubuntu_> ksdahflksahf
[17:45] <ikonia> scott__: ok, can you open a terminal on your messed up resolution ?
[17:45] <ikonia> scott__: (I assume this is a 10.04 install)
[17:45] <scott__> yes, 10.4 ... I can open a terminal now under this 800x600
[17:46] <ikonia> scott__: great, first to "ls -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf" does it return a file ?
[17:46] <Kevin07> ikonia: When exactly would you recommend the server install, if you don't mind me asking? Or is it completely worthless to you?
[17:46] <Euthanatos> i can't be the first to want to do this but i can't find anything anywhere on recording visualizations from libvisual to an mpeg stream
[17:46] <ikonia> Kevin07: on enterprise class server hardware
[17:46] <Kevin07> and im really not trying to be a dork
[17:46] <scott__> no it does not
[17:46] <ikonia> scott__: that's good
[17:47] <scott__> I'll take your word for it at this point ;-)
[17:47] <ikonia> scott__: so what you need is a very basic xorg configuration and then to force the xorg.conf to use the "intel" driver
[17:47] <scott__> yes
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> chadi: ok the burning aps may work. Ive not made an ISO in tiiiiime
[17:48] <ikonia> scott__: if you do an "sudo init 1" it will drop you into single user mode and you can then do your xorg -configure line
[17:48] <scott__> thru terminal?
[17:48] <scott__> now?
[17:48] <ikonia> scott__: correct
[17:48] <scott__> ok, stand by ... I'll be back! lol
[17:48] <chadi> ActionParsnip: yeah, using k3b right now
[17:48] <Kevin07> ikonia: so, basicly a brand new server w/ 6 core processor, 8GB ram ,etc in a true server case or a rack mounted machine in a climate controlled environment would be a candidate for ubuntu-server?
[17:48] <mamat> hi, how can i get a list of the names of the packages i have installed?
[17:48] <Kevin07> other than that...go desktop?
[17:49] <ikonia> Kevin07: doesn't have to be brand new, just a true server architecture, or a real requirment for a stripped back server install on supported hardware
[17:49] <ikonia> mamat: dpkg -l
[17:49] <bastid_raZor> ubottu: tell mamat about clone
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> chadi: it uses qtlibs so you wil have pulled down a whole bunch of extra gumf, if it fits the bill then I guess the hit is sanctioned
[17:50] <mamat> bastid_raZor: nice thx, looks like the kinda stuff i'm trying to do
[17:50] <Kevin07> ikonia: a machine that will handle a heck of a lot of load doing many different tasks, running 50% cpu utilization quite often...im getting what your saying
[17:50] <bastid_raZor> mamat: you're welcome.
[17:50] <sacarlson> mamat:  dpkg --get-selections
[17:50] <Kevin07> stripped back so it can fully dedicate its cpu to doing what it needs to do
[17:51] <sheza> anyone know why my 10.04 desktop randomly corrupted /dev/hda1 my default hardrive
[17:51] <Kevin07> ikonia: you're an alright person, i like you.  i thought you were attacking me before, my apologies
[17:51] <ikonia> Kevin07: no, load has nothing to do with it, the desktop will handle that load just fine
[17:52] <ikonia> Kevin07: but your in the right area in that a "professional" use
[17:52] <sheza> gnome failed, boot failed, test said corrupted
[17:52] <hron85> Hi! how can i tell gdm to keep started up even if xorg not running? I would like create a headless vnc server, but gdm stops working so i cannot use as login manager
[17:52] <Kevin07> roger that
[17:52] <XBMC|User> Hello, Everyone
[17:52] <XBMC|User> Hello, Everyone
[17:52] <XBMC|User> Hello, Everyone
[17:52] <XBMC|User> Hello, Everyone
[17:52] <FloodBot3> XBMC|User: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:52] <mamat> bastid_raZor: your aptitude command just uses /var/lib/dpkg/status? i've got a backup version of the file from a crashed harddrive... i can just copy the file in temporarily?
[17:53] <sheza> dont wanna reinstall, i CAN get all of the stuff back as i have backups on my server
[17:53] <sheza> but im not sure why it would happem
[17:53] <sheza> when nothing at the time had root
[17:54] <Kevin07> ikonia: Honestly, I did it mostly so that I could learn from the bottom up, and I have learned quite a bit so far with much more to come. I appreciate you're patience with me. Thanks again!
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> sheza: boot to livecd and fsck the partition, you can use the -a switch to make it autofix stuff
[17:54] <hron85> anyone?
[17:54] <Kevin07> ikonia: i Do run ubuntu desktop for my main machine at home
[17:54] <sheza> ActionParsnip: already done
[17:54] <kayvan> hi
[17:54] <KaiForce> i have a script that mounts a USB drive and starts SAMBA because the location of the mount is a SAMBA share.  Frequently, when I run the "unmount" script, it won't let me unmount because it says it is in use.  I stop samba before I unmount, and lsof reveals nothing.  Any idea what I can do to cleanly unmount this?
[17:55] <sheza> fsck -a ; fsck -y ;
[17:55] <irule> what is the correct way to use 2 nics with a wingle IP address?
[17:55] <bastid_raZor> mamat: i do not know.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> KaiForce: is the pwd in the same location as the mount? This will also tie up the device ;)
[17:55] <walilo> hi, plese help i've some problems with my keybords (hp dv6 1253) , i want to configure my remot conrol an now some keys aren"t work
[17:55] <bjhaid> i am trying to create a workgroup between my ubutntu 9.10 machine and an xp machine, the xp machine connects but i cannot ping, can anyone help please
[17:56] <KaiForce> ActionParsnip - hmmm, i should have thought of that.  Let me see....
[17:56] <Slart> irule: have you checked out "network interface bonding" ? not really sure if that's what you're looking for but it might be a start
[17:56] <kayvan> hi everybody
[17:56] <kayvan> i wana chat with Persian
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> bjhaid: what can't ping what?
[17:56] <scott__> Ikonia -- no luck. Graphics went rainbow on me and I couldn't see anything to type. I tried blind typing it, and it sounded like it was doing something, then nothing. No file generated
[17:57] <fishcooker> i've got problem on the ntp...
[17:57] <walilo> how could i return to the defaut configuration
[17:57] <laur> hy...who helps me pls ?
[17:57] <fishcooker> actually i wanto syncronice the subnet to the one server onthe subnet
[17:57] <ikonia> scott__: in that case hang on
[17:57] <scott__> will do
[17:57] <walilo> how could i return to the defaut configuration of the keyboard
[17:57] <pondera> littlepenguin may i pm u ?
[17:57] <laur> hy...who helps me pls ? pls prv me
[17:57] <laur> pls
[17:57] <littlepenguin> yes for sure
[17:57] <azm> Hi, I have loaded iwl wifi module but cant run master mode with intel wireless
[17:58] <paul_____> hi, I'm getting a 'failed to mount /etc/fstab' error on mount that I can just skip and it works, can anyone take a look at my fstab file?
[17:58] <azm> I thought this issue is solved for 10.04
[17:58] <KaiForce> Action_Parsnip:  I don't think pwd was same as mount, but I added some code to the script to make sure.
[17:58] <xangua> laur: use plain english please
[17:58] <irule> slart I guess so thanks Ill look it up
[17:58] <ikonia> scott__: darn, I've not got my intel one to hand, you need someone in here with a generic /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin it fo ryou, so you can put it on your box and use it as a bass
[17:58] <xangua> !help | laur
[17:59] <ikonia> scott__: you may also get one from the guys in the #xorg channel
[17:59] <nsd> paul_____: sure, just put it in the ubuntu pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:59] <scott__> you mean as in paste and create one by hand, then edit it?
[17:59] <nsd> anyone know the software sources program executable name? I don't have it on this system and need to install it
[17:59] <fishcooker> any pointer to setting ntpserver on the subnet?!
[18:00] <paul_____> nsd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473608/ here it is
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> azm: tried configuring it in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:00] <sacarlson> nsd:  I think you must mean synaptic?
[18:01] <paul_____> nsd: i changed the uuuid but i was getting the same problem
[18:01] <Slart> nsd: it's called "software-center" on my system..
[18:01] <nsd> sacarlson: no, not synaptic -- there's another program that lets you just set software sources graphically -- if you could ls /usr/bin | grep sources that'd be great
[18:01] <azm> ActionParsnip, nope, I did not found wiki page about it. This file now just contains: auto lo and iface lo
[18:01] <nsd> Slart: I don't think it's that
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/network-time-protocol-ntp-server-and-clients-setup-in-ubuntu.html
[18:02] <fishcooker> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/network-time-protocol-ntp-server-and-clients-setup-in-ubuntu.html
[18:02] <walilo> please how can i return to the defaut configuration of the keyboard
[18:02] <wineuser> Hi, how do I know which nVidia driver to use for my card (which one from the repos I mean)
[18:02] <Slart> nsd: you mean the Ubuntu software center.. user friendly synaptic.. searching for apps and installing them?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> azm: thats normal, you havent added any config
[18:02] <fishcooker> but it cant synchronize, action*
[18:02] <mugwort13> does xorg have 3d support for Intel NM10 Express?
[18:02] <paul_____> um...anyone else care to take a look at my fstab and tell me why i'm getting a 'could not load fstab' error on startup? http://paste.ubuntu.com/473608/
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> azm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode
[18:02] <anirvana> Black_Prince : why did you set hd0,4 ?
[18:02] <xangua> wineuser: system>administracion>hardware support, wich one recomends¿
[18:03] <Slart> !info software-center | nsd
[18:03] <thune3> nsd: it's software-properties-gtk
[18:03] <anirvana> Black_Prince : grub says, It doesn't exist
[18:03] <Black_Prince> I forgot which version of GRUB is 9.04 using
[18:03] <sheza> ActionParsnip: any ideas on why?
[18:03] <Slart> nsd: ooh.. you mean to edit the sources.list.. I see.. sorry for being a bit daft =)
[18:03] <Black_Prince> on legacy sda5 is hd0,4 and on v2 is hd0,5
[18:04] <anirvana> Black_Prince : Shouldn't it be (loop0) ?
[18:04] <scott__> the xorg channel is just telling me to go to a website and submit forum stuff .... arrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh
[18:04] <fishcooker> actionparsnip: should i remove the default config
[18:04] <fishcooker> ?
[18:04] <EdwardIII> hey
[18:04] <azm> ActionParsnip, yea Iv read this and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/iwlwifi_Intel_3945_4965/gutsy
[18:04] <nsd_> my connection went all flaky
[18:04] <walilo> who can help please i need to know how to get the defaut keyboard configuration
[18:04] <EdwardIII> how can i get networkmanager to stop altering my custom settings in resolv.conf?
[18:04] <azm> ActionParsnip, it does not answer question
[18:05] <sacarlson> paul_____: the fstab file looks ok maybe a grub problem?  fdisk show that those partitions exist?
[18:05] <bihari> i have a question
[18:05] <Black_Prince> anirvana you should really try to get Ubuntu Live CD or SuperGrub as sacarlson said
[18:05] <scott__> can anyone provide me with a base xorg.conf file I can copy and use to create one for myself with, since xorg blows and won't do it itself????
[18:05] <nsd_> sacarlson: I recommended that he try fdisk -l, idk if he did
[18:05] <pepee> !ask | bihari
[18:05] <anirvana> Black_Prince : what is Supergrub and how do I get it?
[18:05] <bihari> TCP/IP fingerprinting (for OS scan) requires root privileges.
[18:05] <bihari> QUITTING! when i use this command nmap -A -O
[18:05] <azm> ActionParsnip, ipw driver is not included in 10.04 anymore
[18:05] <azm> it should just work
[18:06] <wineuser> xangua: I don't have 'hardware support', but have 'hardware drivers support' (I believe it invokes 'jockey-gtk')
[18:06] <pepee> bihari, how old are you?
[18:06] <bihari> 18
[18:06] <azm> with iwl as default working driver
[18:06] <remu> Hello everyone. I have installed likewise-open and joined my Ubuntu box to the Windows domain at work. I am able to log in with my domain account, and my credentials are passed on properly when I browse different shares. I would like to share my "Public" folder in my profile with write privilege for my domain account, and read privilege for "domain\Domain Computers". I can't seem to get it working though.
[18:06] <bastid_raZor> EdwardIII: you can set nameservers in network manager too.. so it will populate resolv.conf the way you want.
[18:06] <bihari> pepee,  ? does it has to do anything with age?
[18:06] <wineuser> xangua: But it doesn't recommend any. I had the wrong driver (swapped an FX 5200 for a GeForce 6200)
[18:06] <scott__> can anyone provide me with a base xorg.conf file I can copy and use to create one for myself with, since xorg blows and won't do it itself????
[18:06] <pepee> bihari, ahh, ok. read the output...
[18:07] <pepee> bihari, use sudo
[18:07] <bihari> whear?
[18:07] <Jordan_U> anirvana: It's a CD with grub on it that will detect your operating system and allow you to boot it, you can download it here: http://prdownload.berlios.de/supergrub/super_grub_disk_hybrid-1.98s1.iso
[18:07] <Black_Prince> anirvana: what it is http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/super-grub-disk-fix-windows-linux-boot.html
[18:07] <remu> http://pastebin.com/XuKYmw3b that is my smb.conf
[18:07] <bihari> pepee,  :p now i got it
[18:07] <scott__> can anyone provide me with a base xorg.conf file I can copy and use to create one for myself with, since xorg blows and won't do it itself
[18:07] <wineuser> scott__: You mean 'X -configure' doesn't work?
[18:07] <anirvana> Black_Prince : omg my dvd drive isn't wrking too :(
[18:08] <paul_____> sacarlson: i'm not sure..it just started showing up, here's the paste from the fdisk -l command http://paste.ubuntu.com/473611/
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> azm: if you construct an interfaces file you can set it as a static IP and be in master mode
[18:08] <Jordan_U> anirvana: You can put Super GRUB2 Disk on a USB drive or floppy also.
[18:08] <anirvana> Black_Prince : Isn it possible to fix my errors with some commands from the grub prompt
[18:08] <scott__> no ... my graphics are defaulting to 800x600 and I can't see anything, not even in recovery
[18:08] <fishcooker> jordan_u: what size of the file
[18:08] <fishcooker> ?
[18:09] <scott__> it won't generate a .conf file, so I need to make a basic one
[18:09] <paul_____> sacarlson: i made some changes to another hdd other then that ubuntu resides on and it's been like this ever since, is there a way to auto-generate the fstab?
[18:09] <Black_Prince> anirvana, let's try one more time ... pastebin full output of GRUB command "ls"
[18:09] <biri> hi there
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> azm: http://pastie.org/1077747     for example
[18:09] <walilo> some one can help please i don't have inetrnet for too much time
[18:09] <walilo> please
[18:09] <anirvana> Black_Prince : (loop0) (hd0) (hd0,3) (hd0,5) (hd0,1)
[18:10] <wineuser> scott__: What do you mean it won't generate a xorg.conf file?
[18:10] <thune3> scott__: not that this helps, but if you want to customize some sections of xorg.conf, you only need to add *those* sections to xorg.conf, everything else will remain autoconfigured.
[18:10] <Black_Prince> anirvana, you are now in Windows, right?
[18:10] <biri> i would like to switch easily between network manager and wicd. Now i've got both installed, but when closing wicd and running nm-applet it says network manager is not running
[18:10] <walilo> how can return to the defaut configuration of the keyboard
[18:10] <biri> should it?
[18:10] <Jordan_U> fishcooker: about 1.4 meg.
[18:10] <anirvana> Black_Prince : yes, I remember that uotput
[18:10] <Nairik> some french people here?
[18:10] <Black_Prince> anirvana, tell me ... do you have any other Disk Drives in My Computer
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard | walilo
[18:10] <scott__> when I go to recovery or even single user mode, my graphics go rainbow and I can't see to type. xorg hasn't and won't create a .conf file, and I have none on here, so I am stuck with these basic graphics
[18:10] <Black_Prince> except for windows system drive
[18:11] <Oer> walilo, select the properiate keyboard from system menu ?
[18:11] <xangua> !fr > Nairik
[18:11] <Nairik> !fr
[18:11] <scott__> I need a .conf file first before I can add to it
[18:11] <Jordan_U> anirvana: So you installed Ubuntu "within windows" with wubi?
[18:11] <Oer> walilo, i asume USA international with dead keys
[18:11] <anirvana> Jordan_U yes
[18:11] <sacarlson> paul_____: I have had supergrub boot disk fix things like this /dev/sda1 sounds like your Ubuntu root partition
[18:12] <nullp0inter> i have a tiny issue with my terminal, when i have a few tabs open, and all i do is simply focus on the terminal by clicking the mouse, a terminal tab pops out into a new window,..SUPER annoying
[18:12] <Jordan_U> anirvana: It's a known bug with wubi and 9.10, I'll get you a link to the fix in a minute.
[18:12] <anirvana> Black_Prince : what do you mean by any other disk drive?
[18:12] <nsd_> scott__: try looking up how to edit your grub or grub2 configuration to set your graphics mode; if the grub-pc package is installed, you have grub2, otherwise you have grub legacy. You'll have to follow different directions to set your terminal graphics mode with one or the other
[18:12] <azm> ActionParsnip, I see, well Im going to try it
[18:12] <azm> thanks
[18:12] <anirvana> Jordan_U Please find it :) I am waiting
[18:12] <TommyThaGun> what is the fastest way to get files from my computer to a mac on my server?
[18:12] <walilo> 0er, all keys work before loging in after i've some keys that doesn't work
[18:13] <walilo> all was fine before
[18:13] <walilo> :s
[18:13] <TommyThaGun> to a mac on my network*
[18:13] <joat1> setup a dropbox on your mac
[18:13] <scott__> no offense, but that meant nothing to me ... I'm new to linux and frankly losing confidence in it rapidly. I can't even solve a damn graphics problem on it
[18:13] <TommyThaGun> joat1, what do you mean? I'm talking gigs and gigs of files
[18:13] <ownage> hey
[18:13] <Jordan_U> anirvana: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/grub2/+bug/477104/comments/90
[18:14] <joat1> oh
[18:14] <sacarlson> paul_____: as nds_ shows someone make sure you know what grub version to use after ubuntu 8.X you will need grub2 unless you upgraded and didn't let it change
[18:14] <thune3> scott__: you tried booting with "xforcevesa" in grub line? to maybe try to get temporary functional graphics?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> scott__: then try websearching what is said..
[18:14] <scott__> how do I do that? what is the exact cmd line
[18:14] <scott__> I know how to get to the boot menu
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> scott__: you can use this guide to make the boot use the framebuffer driver: http://www.namanb.com/2010/05/changing-bootup-resolution-plymouth-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[18:16] <anirvana> Jordan_U brb after restarting
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> scott__: hold shift at boot, then select recovery mode, then select root
[18:16] <scott__> root wasn't an option
[18:16] <salvatore> i have a problem with xchat on adding servers
[18:17] <shact> Can someone please help me install my wireless card? It came with a tarball but "make install" fails with "error 2" (file not found)
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> scott__: it  is, scroll down off the bottom of the menu
[18:17] <headkase314> salvatore, do you have X-Chat or X-Chat-GNOME installed?  Go to Help > About and post the version.
[18:17] <xangua> what wireless card shact ¿
[18:17] <thune3> scott__: hover over grub selection and press 'e' and then add xforcevesa after 'quiet splash' ctrl-x to boot
[18:17] <rooks> how to assign network interface to a custom name based on interface's original mac address ?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> shact: is there a makefile in the pwd?
[18:17] <scott__> ok, thanks will try that
[18:17] <nullp0inter> anyone else have a problem with the tabs in terminal? every once in a while a tab will pop out into its own window...and its getting on my nerves
[18:18] <shact> It's Edimax EW-7711UAn : http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/Driver_Utility/Wireless/NIC/2009/RT3070_Linux_STA_v2.0.1.0.tar.zip
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> nullp0inter: use tilde instead :)
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> nullp0inter: or yakuake
[18:18] <nullp0inter> ActionParsnip: whats that
[18:18] <shact> Man, this chat moves fast!
[18:18] <rooks> how to assign network interface to a custom name based on interface's original mac address ?
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> nullp0inter: its a quake like drop down terminal which shows / hides using a hotkey
[18:19] <shact> ActionParsnip; there is a make file, yes
[18:19] <abhijit> help
[18:19] <abhijit> cant login to postgresql error: psql: FATAL:  Ident authentication failed for user "administrator"
[18:19] <rooks> how to assign network interface to a custom name based on interface's original mac address ?
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> nullp0inter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPT1nJP8ogw    its great if you use terminal a lot
[18:19] <llutz> rooks: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[18:20] <rooks> thx
[18:20] <skrite> hey all
[18:20] <anirvana> Jordon_U , you are a champion, Finally your link helped me getting out of that error, thanks :) :)
[18:20] <skrite> i have a ruby process running that is hogging all my processor, but cannot tell what script it is. top just says ruby1.8, any way i can find out what exactly is the hang up (literally)
[18:21] <shact> Is there an IRC client which can hide people who aren't talking to me?
[18:22] <shact> xangua: it's an Edimax based on the RT3070 chip. http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/Driver_Utility/Wireless/NIC/2009/RT3070_Linux_STA_v2.0.1.0.tar.zip
[18:22] <dowxp> skrite: try lsof and grep for ruby
[18:23] <skrite> dowxp, thanks
[18:24] <shact> Anyone?
[18:25] <wessel_> hello
[18:25] <wessel_> I wish to install unbuntu on my old laptop
[18:25] <wessel_> is it possible that ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386 is only 25 MB?
[18:25] <shact> wessel_: that's probably an online installer
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> wessel_: no chance, the kernel is nearly that big no its own
[18:25] <headkase314> shact, so you've executed: "./configure" then "make" and you're having trouble with "make install"? Are there any errors from the first two and are you typing "sudo make install" for the last one?
[18:25] <mbeierl> wessel_: do you mean install it in a 25m ram system?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> wessel_: the minimal ISO is around that sort of size
[18:26] <sacarlson>  wessel_: I think you need at least 4 gig for a full ubuntu
[18:26] <wessel_> no I donwloaded a file, its only 25 MB :-/
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> wessel_: the desktop ISO will come in at arout 700Mb
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> wessel_: its a bad file
[18:26] <wessel_> hmm, I'll download it again
[18:26] <sacarlson>  wessel_:  25meg is even too small for something like DSL  (dam small linux)  that is about 50 meg
[18:26] <shact> headkase314: there's no ./configure, but yes the issue is on "make install". I think it's this issue here (solved): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1208438
[18:27] <shact> ...but i don't follow
[18:27] <tucemiux> wessel_, if you want some advice on how to install linux on your laptop you can send me a PM
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> wessel_: when you get a near 700Mb file, md5 test it so you know its good. If you use torrents then it will help you get a good image
[18:27] <headkase314> shact, does "make" give any errors at all?
[18:28] <shact> headkase314: it gave some warnings, but nothing that looked important
[18:28] <mcnellis> my window borders crashed is there a command to restart the program that diplays them?
[18:28] <mcnellis> i know logging out and back in would be easiest but I don't want to lose my session
[18:28] <wessel> now I googled ubuntu download, and clicked 32-bit - Recommended for most users
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> mcnellis: metacity --replace; compiz --replace    run it in al ALT+F" dialogue
[18:28] <wessel> now = no*
[18:28] <wessel> but maybe the download failed or something
[18:29] <headkase314> shact, warnings are usually ok what you are interested in is the last line there should be no error message at the very end.  Is that the case?
[18:29] <mcnellis> ActionParsnip: alt+f" dialogue?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> !torrents | wessel
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> mcnellis: ALT+F2   forgot to take finger off shift
[18:31] <shact> headkase314: i did "make" again and it gave loads of error this time.
[18:31] <mcnellis> oic figured but couldn't figure out what the " could be with a shift hehe I guess we have different keyboard layouts :) thanks for the help ActionParsnip
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> mcnellis: all good?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> mcnellis: yeah, UK keyboard
[18:32] <headkase314> shact, I believe you should type "make clean" between makes, I think that is the command to reset the make process
[18:32] <jm2k> help: i can't login via gnome desktop login dialog but i can login via terminal (recovery mode). after login via gnome desktop it returns back to login.
[18:33] <headkase314> shact, I think that's the command I hope I'm not wrong!
[18:33] <Guest18001> hi i want to know how to install multiple Linux os can some one plz guide me ...
[18:33] <jgcampbell300> what kernal was i going to install on ubuntu 10.04 to bring it from 32bit to 64bit ?
[18:33] <mast`> umm, the Ubuntu Forums are going crazy here. as soon as I log in they start refreshing constantly, under firefox and chrome also
[18:34] <xangua> !pae | jgcampbell300
[18:34] <Slart> jgcampbell300: you can't just install a 64bit kernel and make your distro 64bit.. you'll be better off reinstalling
[18:34] <jgcampbell300> thanks
[18:34] <llutz> jgcampbell300: its not that easy, you have to reinstall to get 64bit-sys
[18:34] <Slart> jgcampbell300: or use PAE if you just want to use more than 3-4 GB of memory
[18:34] <jm2k> guest18001: if you're not considering VM then try this: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-run-multiple-linux-distros-without-virtualization/2009/08/11
[18:34] <jgcampbell300> !pae
[18:35] <tuxifier> jgcampbell300: I wouldn't recommend PAE kernel - seems to be a bit crappy to me
[18:35] <jgcampbell300> tuxifier: whats wrong with it ?
[18:35] <llutz> tuxifier: theres nothing crappy with PAE, it just has some limitations
[18:35] <shact> headkase314: make clean was right, but still loads of errors
[18:35] <jgcampbell300> umm what kind of limitations ?
[18:36] <tuxifier> jgcampbell300: what I tried to say is you are better of with 64Bit
[18:36] <jgcampbell300> is there a way i can reinstall and get all of my settings and files and sutch back easly ?
[18:36] <EdwardIII> hey chaps - any window manager other than metacity (e.g. icewm) doesn't show up centered on screen. how can i fix this?
[18:37] <tuxifier> jgcampbell300: depends on what you call easy ;) No if you reinstall your disk will be "reformatted"
[18:37] <headkase314> shact, do you have all the dependencies installed for the package you are trying to install?  Usually the error messages will give clues to this if that is the case.  They will say along the lines of "missing, not found, etc." "./configure" if it was part of this package is really good for telling you if you are missing dependencies.
[18:37] <jgcampbell300> hmm what about getting a list of everything i have installed ... and there config files ?
[18:38] <headkase314> shact, when compiling from source you need a lot of "<package>-dev" packages installed.
[18:38] <tuxifier> jgcampbell300: just a second
[18:38] <bastid_raZor> !clone | jgcampbell300
[18:38] <muthu> any shortcut key are there now...?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: you will need to manually grab the configs
[18:38] <tuxifier> jgcampbell300: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/clone-your-ubuntu-installation.html
[18:39] <shact> headkase314: just a min :)
[18:39] <headkase314> shact, ok
[18:39] <muthu> Any shortcut keys are available on the ubundu
[18:39] <tuxifier> jgcampbell300: configs must be saved manually
[18:39] <jgcampbell300> cool ... thanks ... i will start reading up on those options now
[18:39] <Snandy> How can I make a new slide show for my desktop?
[18:39] <thune3> jgcampbell300: i would examine your motives, what you are trying to accomplish, and ask if upgrading to 64-bit ubuntu would serve any reasonable purpose. (if you are just doing it for kicks, then fine)
[18:40] <wad> Under windows I can adjust the sensitivity of the touchpad on my lenovo laptop. Is there a way to do that under Ubuntu? It's driving me nuts. If, while typing, my hand just get's close, the darn thing moves my moves the pointer and clicks, and my typing starts flowing in the wrong place.
[18:40] <tom_> Is there a Fortran2003 compiler for Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:40] <jgcampbell300> well i need more ram for VM and other apps ... let me ask you this ... is 32bit more stable than 64bit ?
[18:41] <econdudeawesome> jgcampbell300 Not in my opinion, but that is an anecdote coming from direct use
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: both are equally stable
[18:41] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:41] <Mjuksel> hi
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> !hi | wildc4rd
[18:42] <econdudeawesome> jgcampbell300: John at schneider BAS, is that you?
[18:42] <jgcampbell300> well i guess i should go ahead and upgrade it and get it over with
[18:42] <tuxifier> jgcampbell300: I just have some flash issues on my 64bit sys
[18:42] <Mjuksel> hello all
[18:42] <Mjuksel> i have a question
[18:42] <jgcampbell300> no
[18:42] <econdudeawesome> jgcampbell300: fair enough
[18:42] <Mjuksel> my minimize/maximize (so title bar i guess) disappeared for all programs :S
[18:42] <jgcampbell300> why ?
[18:42] <thune3> jgcampbell300: so you have more memory on your system than 32-bit ubuntu can utilize?
[18:42] <jgcampbell300> yes 4g
[18:42] <xangua> Mjuksel: alt+f2 > metacity --replace > enter
[18:42] <econdudeawesome> jgcampbell300: He is a fellow Ubuntu acolyte that I haven't met in awhile ;-)
[18:42] <jgcampbell300> its my notebook
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: its called the window decorator
[18:43] <jgcampbell300> oh i see
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: do you use an nvidia video card?
[18:43] <jgcampbell300> sorry nope ... jeff
[18:43] <Mjuksel> ah okay
[18:43] <Mjuksel> yeah i have nvidia
[18:43] <econdudeawesome> Mjuksel: you can try opening gconf-editor, going to metacity, and changing "button layout". Easiest thing to do: Google Ubuntu left side buttons and follow the same thing to "move to the right"
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649480
[18:43] <Mjuksel> i know how to move them , thank you
[18:43] <Mjuksel> but sometimes they just tend to dissappear
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: you need that in your cxorg.conf
[18:44] <econdudeawesome> Mjuksel: weird. I don't know then. ActionParsnip is on hte scene tho ;-)
[18:44] <JasenAngelov> Enter text here...04450435043b043f
[18:44] <JasenAngelov> help
[18:44] <jgcampbell300> hmm guess i am going to start reading now ... hmm one more question ... if i copy all my config files in 32bit and replace in 64 bit ... is that gona jack it up
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: if you install emerald then press ALT+F2 and run: emerald --replace    you can use that instead
[18:44] <jm2k> help: i can't login via gnome desktop login dialog but i can login via terminal (recovery mode). after login via gnome desktop it returns back to login.
[18:44] <econdudeawesome> Are there any open source compilers for fortran2003 in UBuntu?
[18:44] <JasenAngelov> i have sirius problem whit ubuntu
[18:44] <Mjuksel> i dont have emerald installed ActionParsnip :)
[18:44] <thune3> jgcampbell300: i'm not sure what the complaints against the pae kernel are, but pae kernel should be an easy transistion. I recommend trying that first.
[18:44] <muthu> hi... which packages are used for the java programming....? may any one help me...
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> !info g77
[18:45] <jgcampbell300> ya i problaby will ... since i would have to format anyways ... gona copy tons of stuff to my server first tho lol
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: grab it
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> !info emerald
[18:46] <Mjuksel> ok how do i install it ?
[18:46] <Mjuksel> using terminal or packet control ?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: same as ANY software
[18:46] <Mjuksel> or software centre OR ubuntu tweak lol :p
[18:46] <Aidar-Nagato> hi) i forget command that shows me all the time i use my system (not uptime), could someone help me to remember it?
[18:46] <jgcampbell300> well i am really out this time ... thanks for all the advice
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: sudo apt-get install emerald    will do it, or you can use software centre
[18:46] <tuxifier> Aidar-Nagato: last ?
[18:46] <muthu> please help anyone help me...?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> !java | muthu
[18:47] <kagekage> Aidar-Nagato: Are you referring to time of processes? If so, top
[18:47] <Mjuksel> ok after that do i need sudo apt-get install/upgrade?
[18:47] <Aidar-Nagato> tuxifier, no... it's like uptime
[18:47] <karthee> muthu: enna prachna ?
[18:47] <tuxifier> muthu: sun-java6-jdk
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: you should be fully upgraded anyway
[18:48] <kagekage> Aider-Nagato: how is what you want to do different than uptime
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: then run: emerald --replace      in an ALT+F2 dialogue and the decorators will be red, you can then get an emerald theme and apply it
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: it'll look like this: http://video.linux-noob.com/screenshots/ubuntu/7.04/post-1-1178480994.png
[18:49] <Aidar-Nagato> kagekage, it shows sum of all uptime =)
[18:49] <welinux> Mjuksel: Compiz Config Settings Manager > Windows Decoration - change or not the command below
[18:49] <Mjuksel> ok well i installed emerald now
[18:49] <tuxifier> Aidar-Nagato: ? never heard of
[18:49] <Mjuksel> but nothing changed
[18:49] <Mjuksel> so i can remove emerald right away :p
[18:50] <Mjuksel> ah it uses gtk-window-decorator
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: did you run the command?
[18:50] <Mjuksel> yes i did
[18:50] <simar> when the tp stops working, VT switch away and run evtest against the
[18:50] <simar>  device to see if you a) still have the device and b) still see events from
[18:50] <simar>  it.  What is VT here?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: ok then launch it in a terminal, see what it says
[18:50] <Mjuksel> start emerald in terminal
[18:51] <Mjuksel> im running emerald --replace now
[18:51] <Mjuksel> takes some time
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: personally I'd run:   sudo nvidia-xconfig   then add the extra options I gave in the link earlier, nvidia sometimes need those options
[18:51] <Aidar-Nagato> tuxifier, i saw it in wikipedia, but i forget it and can't find it now. if i'm not wrong it's short and prints something like "XXXh YYm"
[18:52] <Mjuksel> ActionParsnip, VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[18:52] <simar> ActionParsnip: I hope you could help me. Actually i'm writeing some documenation
[18:52] <simar> what does VT mean
[18:52] <headkase314> simar, Virtual Terminal?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Mjuksel: the command will make an xorg.conf for you
[18:53] <th0r> video terminal
[18:53] <wad> Is it possible to turn off the "tap to click" functionality of my touchpad? I can't see anything about this in the System menus.
[18:53] <JasenAngelov> Enter text here...i have sirius LAG problem with  ubuntu can any one help me ?
[18:54] <th0r> wad: look at synclient (I think that is the name)
[18:54] <wad> Oh, nevermind, I found it. It's under "mouse".
[18:54] <JasenAngelov> i have sirius LAG problem with  ubuntu can any one help me ?
[18:54] <wad> th0r, thanks!
[18:54] <nullp0inter> JasenAngelov: do you run compiz?
[18:54] <JasenAngelov> no
[18:55] <simar> headkase314: thanks,
[18:55] <headkase314> simar, You're welcome! ;)
[18:55] <leifw> grub problem, possibly: I have a fresh hard drive, with a bunch of partitions (three OS, one swap, one data), and ubuntu is installed on the first partition, with all of / mounted there as reiserfs.  the other OS partitions are empty, and the data partition is jfs.  I've run "update-grub" and "grub-install" countless times, and still, grub fails to load the menu and sticks me in a shell instead.  why does grub-install fail?
[18:55] <muthu> <tuxifier thank you..
[18:56] <Mjuksel> reb00t =)
[18:56] <leifw> rather, grub-install says it works fine, but grub is clearly not installed correctly
[18:56] <nixbox> i have compiled a vanilla kernel from kernel.org, without using debian/ubuntu specific tools for kernel compilation, is there a way to create a DEB out of it?
[18:56] <leifw> I read somewhere that if grub has to read farther than 1K cylinders into the disk or something, it'll fail, and I should repartition, but I'd rather not go through that hassle
[18:57] <headkase314> nixbox, http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/using-checkinstall-build-packages-source
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> nixbox: use checkinstall
[18:57] <econdudeawesome> !info fortran
[18:57] <econdudeawesome> !info gfortran-4.4
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89571
[18:58] <tuxifier> Aidar-Nagato: is it rstat?
[19:00] <abhijit> hello!
[19:00] <abhijit> :D
[19:00] <abhijit> solved!!!!!
[19:01] <Aidar-Nagato> tuxifier, no
[19:02] <sdwrage> Hey all
[19:02] <nullp0inter> JasenAngelov: please keep the convo in here
[19:03] <nullp0inter> and i have no idea what that error message is from
[19:03] <JasenAngelov> Help i have problem i run compiz anf it say: WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXCreatePixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug! WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXDestroyPixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug!
[19:03] <sdwrage> I need a bit of help with a dual booted system. I have Windows 7 and Ubuntu dual booted with GRUB... only problem is... I want to also have VMWare Workstation on windows to load up the ubuntu partition when I need it... but there is no loader on the ubuntu partition thus workstation complains about No OS... any suggestions?
[19:04] <JasenAngelov> Help i have problem i run compiz anf it say: WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXCreatePixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug! WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXDestroyPixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug!
[19:04] <littlepenguin> the installed ubuntu should be virtualised?
[19:04] <littlepenguin> z
[19:05] <littlepenguin> @sdwrage
[19:05] <E8newallm> Does anyone else have a GT 540 phone?
[19:05] <nullp0inter> JasenAngelov: compiz will slow down your computer even more...i only asked if you were using it before and you said no
[19:06] <JasenAngelov> so can tou help me whith my problem ?
[19:07] <nullp0inter> JasenAngelov: i dont know anything besides that your computer is lagging
[19:07] <nullp0inter> you need more detail
[19:08] <JasenAngelov> me too
[19:08] <nullp0inter> well what part...terminal, web browser, everything, etc
[19:08] <JasenAngelov> tel me som program that can help me identyifay my problem
[19:08] <JasenAngelov> evriting
[19:08] <E8newallm> This sounds like a troll.
[19:09] <JasenAngelov> a wat ?
[19:09] <nullp0inter> lol how do you not know what your problem is
[19:09] <E8newallm> A troll
[19:09] <headkase314> !troll | JasenAngelov
[19:09] <JasenAngelov> what is a troll
[19:10] <tucemiux> JasenAngelov, what problem are you having with your computer?  ask again, ****all in one line*** and wait for an answer
[19:11] <irule> this looks recent, I tried it and I see bond0 get an IP address, routing tables look ok with it, but there is no communication, any thoughtS? thanks http://blog.brightbox.co.uk/posts/howto-do-ethernet-bonding-on-ubuntu-properly
[19:11] <antreas> hello i have a problem with my packard bell EasyNode: the camera is not working :( does anyone have a solution to this? thanks
[19:12] <abhijit> hey
[19:12] <welinux> JasenAngelov: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/433488 but I don't find a solution
[19:12] <abhijit> i can create database now but i cant after i close pgadmin then i cant access them?
[19:12] <abhijit> HELP
[19:12] <JasenAngelov> OK i hawe LAG in evry menu and program evry few seconds evryting stops my PC have desant parametars so i dont know whear is the problem so please can any one give som aidea ?
[19:13] <tucemiux> JasenAngelov, are you using compiz?  what type of computer do you have?
[19:13] <th0r> JasenAngelov: if you turn off compiz does everything work ok?
[19:13] <nullp0inter> welinux: he said he doesnt have compiz...then he showed me an error message, so i dont know if he uses compiz or not
[19:13] <welinux> JasenAngelov: what did you do before
[19:14] <headkase314> JasenAngelov, If you are using Ati hardware with proprietary drivers then this may appy: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/fix-compiz-slowness-for-proprietary-ati.html MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE IT APPLIES TO YOU BEFORE TRYING.
[19:14] <headkase314> *apply
[19:14] <JasenAngelov> No i dont use comiz  my PC is P4 1GB ram Hitachi 640 hard ATI X1950GT
[19:14] <welinux> JasenAngelov: the same for metacity https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/560082
[19:15] <tucemiux> JasenAngelov, look at headkase314 post, it could be the ATI drivers are making your machine slow to a crawl
[19:16] <headkase314> JasenAngelov, tucemiux IT DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU.  Proprietary drivers for an Ati X1950GT are not available for Ubuntu 10.04, JasenAngelov Are you on Ubuntu 10.04?
[19:16] <JasenAngelov> yas
[19:16] <headkase314> JasenAngelov, Ok, then disregard the link I gave! Sorry!
[19:17] <tr8dr> hi, Q.  ACPI does not appear to be fully enabled for ubuntu server (64bit).   wondering whether anyone has encountered or suggestions on how to enable (i.e. suspend to ram does not work)
[19:17] <JasenAngelov> can i do somting ?
[19:17] <nullp0inter> JasenAngelov: you need to provide more details, otherwise no one can help
[19:17] <JasenAngelov> srry i dont have more details
[19:17] <fission6> ami going to regret getting a 630 dolalr laptop and putting ubuntu on it for programming, web surfacing, and word processing if the machine only has a dual core 1.3ghz processor
[19:18] <tucemiux> JasenAngelov, it could be your hard drive is about to die -- you can test by running a live CD on your machine, it could also be your motherboard, it could also be your trolling
[19:18] <nullp0inter> fission6: your getting ripped off...i paid 300 for a new laptop with better specs
[19:18] <fission6> link me
[19:18] <BluesKaj> fission6, seems like a rather slow cpu for 600bucks
[19:19] <fission6> was it thin and slick design, that matetrs to me too, yes i know its superifical
[19:19] <nullp0inter> fission6: do you have a microcenter near you?
[19:19] <fission6> microcenter?
[19:19] <dragenov> which one ubuntu 10.04 or mint 9 ????
[19:19] <Slart> dragenov: we only support ubuntu here..
[19:19] <c3l> how do I show the permission for a folder/file in octal (xxx)?
[19:19] <Slart> dragenov: try the live cd's first.. use the one you like
[19:20] <BluesKaj> fission6, or is that 1.3 ghz each core?
[19:20] <kagekage> c3l, try this ls -l | awk '{k=0;for(i=0;i<=8;i++)k+=((substr($1,i+2,1)~/[rwx]/)*2^(8-i));if(k)printf("%0o ",k);print}'
[19:20] <Wavesonics> hey i got a transmission server running, what permissions does a directory need for transmission to be able to download to it?
[19:21] <kagekage> It displays the octal form, followed by the normal ls -l output
[19:21] <nullp0inter> fission6: its a store
[19:21] <tuxifier> kagekage: nice one :P
[19:21] <tucemiux> fission6, a machine with a dual core?? that's overkill!!!  What you should worry about is to make sure your video and sound card work with ubuntu, if you dont care about audio and video and all you want is programming then just pick a laptop with the fastest processor, ubuntu should run fine on it, just do a search on a specific brand and model once you decide what laptop you want to buy
[19:21] <c3l> kagekage: thats just awesome, but awkward, thanks!
[19:21] <nixbox> with checkinstall, what if i have already done a "make" and do not want to do checkinstall again, is there a way to build a package then, without recompiling everything?
[19:21] <Freudlund> anyone inhere got perl working on LAMP? getting 500 errors nomatterwhat i do
[19:21] <fission6> sorry its this, http://www.amazon.com/UL30A-A2-Light-13-3-Inch-Silver-Laptop/dp/B002P3KMNU/ref=dp_cp_ob_pc_title_3
[19:21] <dragenov> slart: it isn't  the matter of happiness  it is the matter of perfection . and does n't ubuntu+debian=mint so mint =ubuntu
[19:21] <hotstew> Hey guys, I'm a bit confused to why so many program can only be found in launchpad but not in the official Ubuntu repository. Obviously they're trying to work with you. Also I wanted to know if there's an easier way to navigate through those launchpad program because I already actively use three of them.
[19:22] <Slart> dragenov: mint is based on ubuntu afaik but it's offtopic here.. we only support ubuntu
[19:22] <headkase314> nixbox, even though I gave a link I've never used checkinstall so can't help there... ;)
[19:22] <Pici> !mintsupport | dragenov
[19:22] <kagekage> c3l, if you have to do it often, consider editing ~/.bashrc
[19:23] <c3l> kagekage: ah nice :)
[19:23] <tucemiux> fission6, if you want to use that laptop for programming then it should be good. BEWARE:  you ***could*** have issues with the video card and maybe the sound card
[19:23] <leifw> it looks like, when I tabcomplete /boot/grub/grub.cfg inside the grub prompt, it thinks there are some extra nonsense bytes at the end (smiley faces and such)
[19:23] <thune3> hotstew: do you have an example one?
[19:23] <fission6> is it 1.3ghz in each core?
[19:23] <leifw> which would explain why it doesn't load it
[19:24] <leifw> but this is not the case once I boot
[19:24] <leifw> the filename is clean
[19:24] <tucemiux> fission6, ask in ##hardware
[19:24] <dragenov> ubottu: dear friend ; I do not look for support I need just opinion of the choice which  one is actually better?
[19:24] <fission6> already did haha
[19:24] <tucemiux> fission6, then you are trolling
[19:24] <Slart> dragenov: this is a support channel.. . only.. you could try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[19:25] <fission6> sorry
[19:25] <fission6> im fone
[19:25] <fission6> done
[19:25] <hotstew> thune3: I use XBMC for example which is really the only media player that can play any media out of the box.
[19:25] <dragenov> slart: ok sure
[19:25] <kinjeta> Can someone assist me with something, I am toootally noobing out over here
[19:25] <Slart> kinjeta: describe your problem or ask your question
[19:25] <tucemiux> !someone | kinjeta
[19:25] <kinjeta> :P
[19:26] <welinux> !ask  | kinjeta:
[19:26] <Shact1> headkase314: sorry, empathy went a bit nuts and now has no menu bar, so i installed xchat
[19:26] <Freudlund> could anyone please pastebin me their unchanged /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default, i messed up mine, trying to get perl working
[19:27] <headkase314> Shact1, are you still having error messages when you do the "make"?
[19:27] <kinjeta> I want to install windows 7. I have the ISO on my HD. I was searching the web for a method that would allow me to somehow install windows from the ISO without having to burn it to a disc or USB drive or anything. Is there a way this could work? If so, can you please walk me through it
[19:27] <kinjeta> Side note, if the windows installation wipes out ubuntu thats fine
[19:27] <Shact1> headkase314: yeah same old. how come i can't use a repo to get all the bits for me?
[19:27] <JoshuaL> Freudlund, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4105698&postcount=2
[19:27] <Slart> kinjeta: afaik there's no such way.. you'll have to burn it to a cd or usb stick..
[19:27] <Danawar> !ftp
[19:28] <kinjeta> I've also created some unallocated HD space in case i need to create some other partitions or w/e
[19:28] <Freudlund> JoshuaL, thx
[19:28] <sum> Hi!
[19:28] <th0r> kinjeta: what has this to do with ubuntu?
[19:28] <headkase314> Shact1, do this: "make clean" "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" "make > tempfile" "pastebinit tempfile" And post the link "pastebinit tempfile" gives.
[19:28] <Shact1> ok
[19:29] <tucemiux> kinjeta, ask in ##windows
[19:29] <headkase314> Shact1, then you can "rm tempfile"
[19:29] <kinjeta> I'm using ubuntu as an OS ..
[19:29] <kinjeta> atm
[19:29] <thune3> hotstew: ppas are precicely for these niche apps that update frequently
[19:29] <tucemiux> kinjeta, you can ask in windows but if youre using ubuntu you can install windows 7 inside ubuntu using virtualbox
[19:29] <th0r> kinjeta: well, you can mount the iso to a directory using fuseiso
[19:30] <th0r> kinjeta: or you can burn it to a dvd/cd with brasero
[19:30] <hotstew> fair but is the browser the only way to find these programs?
[19:30] <tucemiux> kinjeta, did you download the windows 7 trial version ISO ?
[19:30] <sum> isos can be mounted via mount -o loop foo.iso /taret/dir
[19:30] <hotstew> or is there a general launchpad repository?
[19:30] <kinjeta> tucemiux: No it's a full version Iso
[19:30] <Saevar> kinjeta, mount -t iso9660 -o loops <iso_path> <where to>
[19:31] <Shact1> headkase314:  pastebin.com/9sLpFmrQ
[19:31] <headkase314> Shact1, ok, let me look at that...
[19:31] <thune3> hotstew. no. you add an app specific repository (ppa), such as https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ppa
[19:32] <kinjeta> Thanks for the assistance all, I'll try using virtualbox to install it
[19:32] <welinux> kinjeta: or try WMware Player
[19:32] <hotstew> okay thanks, I wish there was a more organized way to navigate through programs in launchpad
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | hotstew
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> hotstew: a search box good enough?
[19:34] <welinux> hotstew: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[19:34] <headkase314> Shact1, when you did "make > tempfile" did you see anything output on the screen?  You should have seen nothing, if you did see output then the redirect to a file (">") didn't capture it all?  I say that because I see no error messages in what you posted?  Perhaps someone else can post how to capture a complete "make" output if so?
[19:35] <kinjeta> With the utilization of virtualbox...once windows is installed, is removing Ubuntu and retaining windows an option?
[19:35] <Shact1> headkase314:  yes some stuff came up on screen
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> headkase314: just go oldschool and copy / paste
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Shact1: what are you compiling?
[19:36] <headkase314> Shact1, ok, that sounds good!  Then pastebin that!
[19:36] <abhijit> anyone can list some great free open source databases? e.g. postgres?
[19:37] <Basket> ciao
[19:37] <Basket> !list
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: mysql
[19:37] <welinux>  kinjeta: VirtualBox is living IN Ubuntu NOT OUT OF Ubuntu
[19:38] <linguini> abhijit, mysql, sqlite
[19:38] <headkase314> Shact1, ActionParsnip can help too!  ActionParsnip Edimax based on the RT3070 chip. http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/Driver_Utility/Wireless/NIC/2009/RT3070_Linux_STA_v2.0.1.0.tar.zip
[19:38] <Shact1> headkase314: http://pastebin.com/30NDmzVe
[19:38] <jeroendv> what would be the best way to run a script every 6 hours or so ??
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> headkase314: I would but my battery is dying. Webbrowsing will zap it good
[19:38] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, is mysql in repo?
[19:38] <linguini> jeroendv, cron
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> !sql
[19:38] <abhijit> linguini, ok
[19:38] <jeroendv> anacron seems to have a minum period of 1 day, nothing shorter :-s
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> jeroendv: use gnome-schedule as a gui to creon
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> jeroendv: there is no best anything
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> S/creon/cron
[19:39] <tensorpudding> You can run scripts more often than a day using cron
[19:40] <c3l> what ftp server is most widely used? im having a hard time deciding what server to use, any suggestions?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> jeroendv: cron can run every second if you wish
[19:40] <jeroendv> linguini:  doesn't cron specify a specific time, and there fails if your laptop is off at that time?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> !ftp | c3l
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> !ftpd
[19:40] <LinoSP> hiii someone that has made work an nvidia 4200Ti
[19:40] <LinoSP> could help me?
[19:40] <jeroendv> ActionParsnip: every second, every 60 seconds you mean?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> jeroendv: can be every 7 seconds if you want
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> jeroendv: cron is pretty sweet
[19:41] <tensorpudding> 4200 Ti, that's like seven or eight years old isn't it?
[19:41] <c3l> ActionParsnip: yeah, there are loads to chse from, Im wondering which one to use
[19:41] <scannie> Hello. I can't mount HDDs/USB Flash Drives... They don't show in the "computer" icon, and if i try to mount them I get "mount: según mtab, /dev/sdb1 ya está montado en /" [according to mtab it's already mounted]... any ideas?
[19:41] <marcoss> how can I start samba ?
[19:41] <tensorpudding> It should surely work with the default driver fine.
[19:41] <headkase314> Shact1, I'm sorry - I don't know what to do, the output isn't descriptive enough for me to figure out what to do as the next step... :(  I don't know, perhaps someone else can help?
[19:42] <tensorpudding> I doubt nvidia's blob driver supports it anymore though
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> c3l: try a few, see which you like. Ftp is widely supported but not very secure. Ssh supports sftp which is more secure
[19:42] <LinoSP> yeah I also have a Geforce 2 MX 100/200
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> !samba | marcoss
[19:42] <Shact1> headkase314: ok, thanks for looking. I'm going to have to come back to this as it's very uncomfortable on the floor
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> scannie: run: mount ,it will show you what is mounted and where
[19:43] <headkase314> Shact1, for reference for everyone, trying to compile: Edimax based on the RT3070 chip. http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/Driver_Utility/Wireless/NIC/2009/RT3070_Linux_STA_v2.0.1.0.tar.zip with pastebin output here: http://pastebin.com/30NDmzVe
[19:43] <tensorpudding> Might nouveau or whatever support it?
[19:43] <LinoSP> I have installed the propietary drivers but I see 640x480 as max resolution
[19:43] <jm2k> help: login screen returns to login after i login with user/pass.
[19:43] <c3l> ActionParsnip: yeah, but I want to allow downloads via the browser, afaik no browser has ssh support
[19:43] <ZykoticK9> c3l, i'm personally with ActionParsnip on this one - sftp would be a lot better.  But i've used proftpd succesfully in the past (it's fairly easy to setup, and powerful as well)
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> LinoSP: try running: sudo nvidia-xconfig ,then reboot. This will force the use of the proprietary driver
[19:44] <jeroendv> ActionParsnip: but doesn't cron have the problem that it doesn't work if your laptop if not on?
[19:44] <ZykoticK9> c3l, if it's only download and not upload you want - perhaps you could you a web server apache instead?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> jeroendv: well, yeah. No power = cpu is off so no scheduler will run if the system is off in any OS
[19:44] <headkase314> Shact1, when you come back describe what I just said to you!  That will get you started again good!
[19:45] <c3l> ZykoticK9: no uploads will be needed too
[19:45] <llutz> jeroendv:  anacron exists
[19:45] <jeroendv> ActionParsnip: well ok obviously, but will cron realise that it missed an action and perform it when the laptop is turned off?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> LinoSP: your cards sound like they will be supported by the nouveau driver rather than the proprietary driver
[19:46] <orion_X11> how do I configure volume applet panel to show its bar in a vertical mode, instead of horizontal? I do not like horizontal mode to put volume up and down
[19:46] <jeroendv> llutz: yeah, thought of that but its smallest period is 1 day, while i would rather have somthing like 6 or 12h
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> jeroendv: no, the scheduler will rerun at boot and the schedule will be re-examines and continued
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> jeroendv: if your bios supports it you can schedule a power on
[19:46] <jeroendv> ActionParsnip: turned ON, i mean
[19:46] <jm2k> how do you enable auto-login via terminalo?
[19:48] <abhijit> jm2k, autologin to what?
[19:48] <bastid_raZor> jm2k: you could look  in .xsession-errors to see a possible reason why you're not able to complete the login
[19:48] <jm2k> abhigit: my gnome login screen kicks me back to login after i enter my user/pass correctly.
[19:48] <jeroendv> ActionParsnip: so theoretically I could prevent cron from ever doing anything if I turn it off just before it should be executing? seems fischy
[19:49] <gh> after last upgrade(10.04), no sound, and I cannot restart or shutdown my box from inside of gnome or gdm.
[19:49] <xtknight> jm2k, it's usually a per-user error. if all else fails you can try creating another user or check /home/failinguser/.xsession-errors
[19:49] <abhijit> jm2k, ok. i thought that some other probem. ok you follow what xtknight and bastid_raZor are saying
[19:49] <cawnc> Hello, i am a newbie, can you tell me how to make a program start up when you log in? basicly how do I add programs to the startup list?
[19:49] <jru898> Does anyone know how to sharpen the image from a logitech webcam once I've got the image?
[19:50] <xtknight> cawnc, system-> preferences ->startup
[19:50] <abhijit> cawnc, System=>Preferences=>Startup Aps
[19:50] <bastid_raZor> !startup | cawnc
[19:50] <ZykoticK9> cawnc, System / Preferences / Startup Applications
[19:50] <xtknight> jru898, in what context?
[19:50] <k0sh-mobile> Aj
[19:50] <jru898> I.e., I have the webcam working, and I have it running in several flash-based applications
[19:50] <jru898> But the image is extremely grainy
[19:50] <sanguisdex1> so I just installed ubutntu onto a win7 machine for a dual boot and now I can't get past the file system check when booting into win 7. any sugestions
[19:50] <jru898> And dark
[19:50] <ZykoticK9> bastid_raZor, the !startup factoid need to be updated for 10.04 me thinks.
[19:50] <jru898> I'd like to increase the exposure
[19:50] <bastid_raZor> that factoid is outdated for 10.04 :\
[19:51] <bastid_raZor> ZykoticK9: agreed.
[19:51] <elyos>  
[19:51] <tuxifier> I just want to say that haproxy is a pretty fancy tool :)
[19:51] <jru898> And cheese doesn't offer the options I need
[19:51] <k0sh-mobile> rooks: hi, remember me?
[19:51] <xtknight> jru898, usually it needs more lighting. but im not sure there's a way to put a filter at the driver level other than modifying the source code. unless it has options already. there might be a V4L2 option in it, but sadly most apps dont expose access to these so readily
[19:52] <cached> so is there a difference between apt-get and aptitude
[19:52] <xtknight> cached,  aptitude installed recommended applications, apt-get does not... i believe
[19:52] <ZykoticK9> cached, yes - aptitude has actually been removed from default Maverick FYI
[19:52] <abhijit> ZykoticK9, which was last version having that Session menu?
[19:52] <gh> heh, serious hand holding goes on in here
[19:52] <ZykoticK9> abhijit, not sure... 9.04?
[19:52] <jm2k> xtknight: you're awesome! i did have a syntax error. i'd like to offer you my first-born :) thanks
[19:52] <abhijit> ZykoticK9, ok
[19:53] <xtknight> jm2k lol
[19:53] <AviMarcus> heya. I'm trying luckybackup / rsync to synchronize two external drives. But it's only adding, not deleting files. What should I use to sync with deleting?
[19:53] <tesuji> i don't want to use the gnome keyring - can i just delete the files?
[19:53] <jm2k> bastid_raZor: thanks too.
[19:53] <greph> why we have to install all the 30 mb of kernel when needs even a mirror update ? (i know that linux is consisted from hundreds of packages, so it is not enough to install just the updated package ? )
[19:54] <grendal_prime> anyone any good with virtualbox?
[19:54] <grendal_prime> networking that is?
[19:54] <xtknight> greph,  most of the space is debug info (annotated code to help developers debug issues)
[19:54] <Snandy> How can I get Ubuntu to "see" my raid drives?
[19:54] <ZykoticK9> !anyone | grendal_prime or see the #vbox channel
[19:54] <DasEi> grendal_prime: not sure, just ask
[19:54] <xtknight> Snandy, software or hardware raid?
[19:55] <SimonSayez> tesuji, gnome-keyring is a pain in the ass
[19:55] <Snandy> Hardware, on the motherboard
[19:55] <abhijit> ZykoticK9, i submitted factoid update. let see what ops do to it? :)
[19:55] <greph> xtknight: sorry but i can not understand what you mean. i dont know if i have problem with my system. can you explain the reason of that easy.
[19:55] <DasEi> Snandy: load dmraid
[19:55] <DasEi> !info dmraid
[19:55] <xtknight> Snandy, usually you can setup your device with device-mapper and it'll be in /dev/mapper/xxxx
[19:55] <ZykoticK9> abhijit, well from the channel - thanks ;)
[19:55] <abhijit> ZykoticK9, :)
[19:55] <Snandy> !info dmraid
[19:55] <tesuji> SimonSayez, i noticed - but what happens i delete it
[19:55] <jm2k> back to my project with a deadline. thanks all for the help.
[19:55] <xtknight> greph, no you don't have a problem with your system, sometimes updates are just big
[19:56] <DasEi> !info dmraid > Snandy
[19:56] <Snandy> Thanks
[19:56] <greph> xtknight: big like 30 mb ? :)wow so developers are working fast :D
[19:56] <tesuji> i don't want to use the gnome keyring - can i just delete the files?
[19:56] <SimonSayez> tesuji, Delete those Gnome files in your home directory and leave the gnome keyring pasword field blank
[19:56] <ZykoticK9> tesuji, is key ring coming up everytime for nm_applet?
[19:56] <DasEi> Snandy: install i, read its man - output for usage
[19:56] <DasEi> it*
[19:57] <tesuji> ZykoticK9, my wifi wont work until i enter password
[19:57] <DasEi> grendal_prime: what's on with vboxnetwork ?
[19:57] <xtknight> greph, yeah sort of, but most of that size is not new code
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> tesuji, move rather then delete the current keyring settings - then the next time keyring should re-prompt, choose the Insecure storage option and it will stop asking.
[19:57] <k0sh-mobile> rooks: are you there?
[19:57] <Snandy> DasEi: Thanks, installed and reading now
[19:57] <xtknight> greph, ubuntu does not support delta like fedora or suse yet, it installs the whole new package.
[19:57] <polar|grr> sorry for the disconnection... I found something odd. I have a 80GB drive on /dev/sda, and a 160gb drive on /dev/sdb ... /dev/sdb1 WAS mounted on /, and that's ok, but 'mount /dev/sda1' says "/dev/sdb' is already mounted... any ideas? o_O
[19:58] <greph> xtknight:  ok. thank you!
[19:58] <DasEi> polar|grr: output of mount without any parameters ?
[19:58] <Snandy> How do I add slides for my desktop? Like the default Cosmos
[19:59] <tesuji> ZykoticK9, move? where?  why?
[19:59] <ZykoticK9> Snandy, use Cosmos script as a base, and TRY to adapt it to your own files.  I personally failed at it, good luck.
[19:59] <jeremyn> how can i verify that i am using the nvidia driver? System > Administration > Hardware Drivers say I am using nvidia, but System > Administration > NVIDIA X Server Settings says I am not
[19:59] <tesuji> does anybody use dropbox?
[20:00] <DasEi> jeremyn: stop gdm and run : sudo nvidia-settings first one time
[20:00] <jeremyn> DasEi: you mean log out and then login through the command line and run that?
[20:00] <abhijit> hello
[20:00] <abhijit> how to know if what filesystem i have? just to check?
[20:00] <drale2k> Hey guys, please help! I am gonna kill my hoster
[20:00] <drale2k> I have bought a server at host-europe, ubuntu
[20:01] <muelli> abhijit: type "mount". Or "cat /proc/$$/mounts"
[20:01] <llutz> abhijit: blkid
[20:01] <DasEi> jeremyn: yes, or just sudo service gdm stop (logs you out!) , start after issuing above command to restart gdm again
[20:01] <cawnc> I havent used Ubuntu since 8.04, does it still have Compiz Fusion?
[20:01] <drale2k> its running Plesk and Virtuozzo, preinstalled
[20:01] <jeremyn> abhijit: cat /etc/fstab
[20:01] <Pici> !enter | drale2k
[20:01] <muelli> !enter | drale2k
[20:01] <abhijit> muelli, jeremyn llutz thanks. :)
[20:01] <jeremyn> DasEi: thanks
[20:01] <DasEi> cawnc: yes, and you can directl y upgrade to lucid
[20:01] <cawnc> DasEi what is lucid?
[20:01] <DasEi> !lucid
[20:02] <muelli> !enter | muelli
[20:02] <cawnc> oh, i know thats what i just installed
[20:02] <polar|grr> DasEi: http://pastie.org/1077983
[20:02] <cawnc> haha
[20:02] <rooks> is there an xchat-gnome plugin or irssi plugin to send out nice xorg popups/notifications when something was said when i was offline?
[20:02] <dekelev> hi
[20:02] <cawnc> !compiz
[20:02] <DasEi> rooks: pidign has
[20:02] <drale2k> Now if i access the server via FTP as user and upload something (f.e. wordpress.zip) and then go into with SSH as root and unzip it, i can`t use the file anymore because the server "cant use, find, see.. whatever" the file
[20:02] <cawnc> !compiz fusion
[20:02] <dekelev> how do you set usb headset as default sound device through a command line
[20:02] <welinux> rooks: libnotify?
[20:03] <dekelev> ?
[20:03] <dekelev> or alsa-base
[20:03] <rooks> welinux, i guess ill have to write it myself, but was looking for sth readymade :P
[20:03] <grendal_prime> DasEi, well im trying to dest-nat port 80 to the virtualbox and its not working.
[20:03] <DasEi> polar|grr: so that's what is actually mounted now, please also paste out from : sudo fdisk -l
[20:03] <cdavis_> What is the best choice for squid log analysis if we want to track individual users web usage? I already have ident working correctly
[20:04] <polar|grr> DasEi, http://pastie.org/1077992
[20:05] <DasEi> polar|grr: and now you want to mount the sda ntfs ?
[20:05] <polar|grr> yes sir
[20:05] <plunder> does anyone know if the package 'iw' enable packet injection when satisfying the aircrack-ng dependency?
[20:06] <jeremyn> DasEi: i tried the sudo nvidia-settings thing but it complained with "The control display is undefined"
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> !info iw
[20:06] <DasEi> polar|grr: sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[20:06] <jeremyn> DasEi: btw, isn't nvidia-settings the same as System > Administration > NVIDIA X Server Settings?
[20:06] <DasEi> polar|grr: sudo mount /dev/sda1  /media/sda1
[20:06] <picard1421> hey guys..
[20:07] <plunder> ActionParsip: i read that already i wasn't sure as it didn't mention
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> jeremyn: yes its the same
[20:07] <DasEi> jeremyn: no, you run it once to get the config written
[20:07] <polar|grr> DasEi, i'll assume i have to create /media/sda1
[20:07] <SimonSayez> install bleachbit to clean up Ubuntu Linux browser files and tmp files too
[20:07] <picard1421> does ubuntu support the lenovo w510 laptop... what i mean by that can u use the touch screen and multi touch track pad with ubuntu?
[20:07] <DasEi> polar|grr: yep, see above
[20:07] <tomhoo> Hy
[20:07] <polar|grr> oh, sorry, didn't see it... that worked
[20:07] <polar|grr> thanks a bunch
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> SimonSayez: wactch the settings in browsers though or it'll clean settings you want
[20:08] <ncurses> hey guys
[20:08] <DasEi> grendal_prime: you want to make the vm being reachable as a server ?
[20:08] <polar|grr> now any idea how to make it automatically mount stuff again?
[20:08] <SimonSayez> ActionParsnip, Right I always make sure I read the boxes before I click them
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> SimonSayez: also close as many apps as you can to unlock files
[20:08] <Yoska> Hi,It is first time that i am here,at last i have entered this raum via pidgin
[20:08] <abhijit> !hi | Yoska
[20:08] <ncurses> just a quick question... what do i need to install first since im planning on dual booting freebsd and ubuntu???
[20:09] <bipolar> Has anyone else noticed a lot of interface lag and temporary hanging when you have a lot of programs running at once, copying files around, or compiling something? I looked into it and ended up changing the default scheduler, which make my UI much more responsive. If anyone else is having the same issues, I'd like you to try the same thing I did and see if it clears up.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> SimonSayez: you can also remove old kernels to save space
[20:09] <abhijit> Yoska, try to use proper irc client if possible (my personal opion) e.g. xchat
[20:09] <SimonSayez> ActionParsnip, I never have my browser record my session and I use google-chrome in incognito mode on start up #google-chrome --incognito
[20:09] <Yoska> ok,thnk friend
[20:09] <Snandy> Is PlayOnLinux a good app? Is it a must have for a semi-novice?
[20:10] <DasEi> ncurses: can use grub for both, so no real matter, I'd go bsd-ubuntu, cause ubuntu has better support
[20:10] <jeremyn> Snandy: depends on what you're trying to do i suppose
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> SimonSayez: what does incognito do? I hope you aren't rrunning it as root
[20:10] <picard1421> anyone know?
[20:10] <grendal_prime> DasEi, ya.  webserver
[20:10] <picard1421> if the w510 touch and multi touch feature are supported?
[20:10] <grendal_prime> from the host wich is also a router.
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> picard1421: check the hcl
[20:10] <picard1421> hc1?
[20:11] <picard1421> what is that?
[20:11] <Snandy> jeremyn: I am wanting to play PC games in Ubuntu. I am searching for WineX apps, and many more popped up than I expected
[20:11] <SimonSayez> ActionParsnip, Download Google-Chrome and install it and make a Desktop launcher and go to Properties and add --incognito to /usr/bin/google-chrome --incognito and your history never gets recorded
[20:11] <DasEi> grendal_prime: I assume you have a dynamic IP on the host, so you have to set up a (free) account like dyndnscom and then use a client on the vm to resolve the host(the vm itself in this case)
[20:11] <piercedwater> will someone link me to the lib and rtorrent respoistory for ubuntu?
[20:11] <abhijit> !hcl | picard1421
[20:11] <piercedwater> i cant find it on google
[20:11] <jeroendv> llutz: seems like fcron will get it done
[20:11] <grendal_prime> DasEi, i was assuming that i would just dest-nat anything coming in on port 80.
[20:11] <SimonSayez> ActionParsnip, of course not, I would never run a web browser as root
[20:11] <jeremyn> Snandy: i've found wine by itself is decently usable. occasionally i've had trouble with wine and tried to use playonlinux but it still wouldn't work
[20:12] <grendal_prime> umm the host is a register domain name
[20:12] <DasEi> piercedwater: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[20:12] <SimonSayez> ActionParsnip, Do you run Google-Chrome web browser too ?
[20:12] <jeremyn> Snandy: i am not a hardcore PC gamer though
[20:12] <tesuji> i am trying to config networkmanager to static my host - i fill in the entries but the "apply" button is greyed out - what am i doig wrong?
[20:13] <Snandy> Chrome and Firefox, and even the most recent IE can go into private browsing mode by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+P
[20:13] <Snandy> jeremyn: If I do get PlayOnLinux, won't I still need WineX, as it sayt it is just a front end.
[20:13] <tesuji> i am trying to config networkmanager to static my host - i fill in the entries but the "apply" button is greyed out - what am i doig wrong?
[20:13] <DasEi> piercedwater: torrent, i386 or 64 bit ?
[20:13] <piercedwater> i386
[20:13] <piercedwater> this link is almost impossible to find
[20:13] <ncurses> DasEi, thanks...
[20:13] <picard1421> i dont see on that ubuntu link... where it says laptop comatabilities?\
[20:13] <SimonSayez> Snandy, I needed to configure Google Chrome to start in incognito mode everytime I clicked on to the desktop launcher
[20:13] <kagekage> Snandy, if you download PlayOnLinux it will download WINE to fill the dependency, I believe
[20:14] <jeremyn> Snandy: if you install playonlinux from the repositories, it will install wine if you don't already have it
[20:14] <tesuji> i am trying to config networkmanager to static my host - i fill in the entries but the "apply" button is greyed out - what am i doig wrong?
[20:14] <Snandy> Thanks both of you
[20:14] <DasEi> piercedwater: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[20:14] <picard1421> i see this
[20:14] <picard1421> http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201005-5732/
[20:14] <tesuji> i am trying to config networkmanager to static my host - i fill in the entries but the "apply" button is greyed out - what am i doig wrong?
[20:14] <picard1421> but that does not tell me if it supoports the touch screen etc???
[20:14] <SimonSayez> recording browser History seems stupid anyway thats how people profile you
[20:15] <jeremyn> speaking of games btw, has anyone gotten everquest (the first one) to work on ubuntu? i can't even get it to start up
[20:15] <piercedwater> DasEi: um, Im looking for rtorrent and the lib for ubuntu server
[20:15] <piercedwater> in the repository
[20:15] <karlo> where we can say our ideas for ubuntu ?
[20:15] <piercedwater> not actual ubuntu :P
[20:15] <tesuji> i am trying to config networkmanager to static my host - i fill in the entries but the "apply" button is greyed out - what am i doig wrong?
[20:15] <DasEi> piercedwater: oh, the app ?
[20:15] <piercedwater> right
[20:15] <piercedwater> I dont wnt to compile
[20:15] <DasEi> !info rtorrent
[20:15] <SimonSayez> Linux Games are just not as polished as Windows games
[20:15] <welinux> SimonSayez: google-chrome --incognito
[20:16] <cablop> i need some help i need to be able to reinstall my nvidia drivers, it's not working after i changed my board
[20:16] <The_Thing|Laptop> How do I find which version of Ubuntu I use? Specifically, I forgot whether I'm using the 32-bit or the 64-bit.
[20:16] <tesuji> does anyone know how to config ubuntu for static ip?
[20:16] <grendal_prime> SimonSayez, you have never played savage2 then
[20:16] <cablop> but it's the same AGP card
[20:16] <abhijit> The_Thing|Laptop, uname -a
[20:16] <DasEi> The_Thing|Laptop: lsb_release -a
[20:16] <tesuji> does anyone know how to config ubuntu for static ip?
[20:16] <DasEi> tesuji: sure..
[20:16] <SimonSayez> welinux, Thats what I did if you right click on the Google Chrome launcher on your desktop and that to the command line it starts up in incognito mode every time
[20:17] <coz_> tesuji,   try here   http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[20:17] <DasEi> tesuji: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[20:17] <Snandy> Where would I find manuals/text files at? The dmraid manual is eluding me.
[20:17] <piercedwater> uh thanks
[20:17] <SimonSayez> grendal_prime, I played Savage2 a longtime ago
[20:17] <The_Thing|Laptop> abhijit: Thanks!
[20:17] <abhijit> :D
[20:17] <abhijit> :P
[20:18] <tesuji> coz_, how do iset up wifi?
[20:18] <fs_> how do I download a vim plugin from vim.org from the terminal. wget url downloads the html but i need the redirect
[20:19] <tesuji> coz_, i want to use networkmanager to enable wifi but not use dhcp
[20:19] <coz_> testi,  mm goog question  hold on
[20:19] <coz_> tesuji,   so you are using wireless  ...yes?
[20:19] <welinux> fs_: wget --help
[20:20] <tesuji> coz_, yes and netman has settigs for static but the apply button is greyed out
[20:20] <mleger> Hello all, I'm having issues finding lightning and gdata provider extensions for my Thunderbird 3.0.6 running Lucid 64 bit. Can anyone drop be a link for compatible addons? Thanks!!
[20:20] <fs_> I checked the help before but didn't find the right switch
[20:20] <coz_> tesuji,  ok to be honest I am the "doof"  of networking solutions :)   I would think others here are more qualified than I ...or  go to ##linux channel if no one here knows
[20:20] <fs_> I'll check again
[20:21] <abhijit> !wifi | tesuji
[20:21] <psycho789> does LVPM work with latest ubuntu version
[20:22] <mleger> Anyone? Surely someone else has been struggling with the same issue!
[20:22] <SimonSayez> The problem with Google-Chrome is it is no good for long downloads and you cant pause your downloads
[20:22] <DasEi> grendal_prime: I still don't get the whole scenario, if your host is already reachable, can use dnsmasq to point it to the vm
[20:22] <munis> hi everybody
[20:22] <tesuji> abhijit, my wifi works - the problem is configuring networkmanager
[20:22] <abhijit> mleger, try in #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[20:23] <DasEi> !hi | munis
[20:23] <mleger> abhijit: will do, thank you!
[20:23] <SimonSayez> However Google Chrome appears to be much faster than FireFox
[20:23] <abhijit> tesuji, i am also not expert. but just repeat your question.
[20:23] <abhijit> mleger, :)
[20:23] <DasEi> tesuji: edit interfaces, that also overides nm
[20:24] <cawnc> Is open office the best Free linux supported word processor?
[20:24] <cablop> i can't enable my nvidia card to work, can i get some help?
[20:24] <fs_> Anybody know how to follow a redirect with wget. I tried the --help and a few commands but can't seem to find the right one
[20:24] <kagekage> cawnc: you may want to check out Abiword. I haven't used it, I prefer OpenOffice, but some like it more
[20:24] <munis>  hi
[20:24] <DasEi> cawnc: best is a poll, it's very huge and has a big footprint, but many features, I like Abiword for common officejobs
[20:24] <psycho789> userJDownloader for long downloads
[20:25] <abhijit> cawnc, my local language fonts dont work properly on open office but they work good on abiword. oo is best but not in all cases.
[20:25] <cablop> how can i reinstall my graphics card?
[20:25] <welinux>  fs_: what's the adress of the file?
[20:25] <DasEi> cablop: which nvidia ?
[20:25] <fs_> http://www.vim.org/scripts/download_script.php?src_id=11006
[20:25] <fs_> something like that
[20:25] <cablop> geforce 6200 dasei
[20:25] <fs_> but I always end up downloading the php file
[20:25] <cablop> and it was working before i moved it to a different board
[20:26] <DasEi> cablop: the standard will work there, first uninstall all nvidia stuff via synaptic, reconfigure graphics, then use hardwaredrivers
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> cablop, if you currently have an xorg.conf - "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig" then you could restart and be using Nouveau.  If you want to retry nvidia - "sudo nvidia-xconfig".  Good luck.
[20:26] <cablop> then what do i have to uninstall?
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> cablop, i'd try it first without uninstalling anything.
[20:27] <DasEi> cablop: call synaptic, search for nvidia
[20:27] <cablop> ZykoticK9: ah i see
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> cablop, IF you have nvidia enabled in Hardware Drivers
[20:27] <cablop> i moved the xorg.conf file
[20:27] <cablop> and started x
[20:27] <cablop> and i'm now in synaptic and searched for nvidia
[20:27] <DasEi> cablop: try ZykoticK9 first, might be faster , if not totally borked
[20:27] <abhijit> hey friends there was an option for show only text or text with icon or only icon. but now just i reinstall my lucid and i cant have that option in right click desktop>background prefenreces
[20:27] <abhijit> help
[20:29] <cablop> ZykoticK9: DasEi i entered the synaptic a while ago, then removed the nvidia things and hen removed the xorg.conf file, i can enter in ugly graphics mode... so what's your reommendatrion now?
[20:29] <ZykoticK9> abhijit, it might be an option in ubuntu-tweak... can't check right now in wrong Ubuntu
[20:29] <abhijit> ZykoticK9, ohh ok.
[20:29] <DasEi> cablop: same or other machine currently speaking from ?
[20:29] <welinux> fs_: it's a zip file anyway You can unzip it or just rename it to *.zip
[20:29] <ZykoticK9> cablop, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" then restart x again
[20:30] <wessel> hello, I'm installing Ubuntu on my old laptop from an USB stick
[20:30] <cablop> different machine
[20:30] <wessel> after it loads the * * * * *, the screen goes gray
[20:30] <DasEi> cablop: sudo service gdm stop
[20:30] <Saevar> Hello everybody...anybody can help me write bootable iso of another os to flashdisc ? actual os is ubuntu 10.04 x64. want to make bootable flash disc of solaris live
[20:30] <ZykoticK9> cablop, use Hardware Drivers instead of synaptic, if you don't have nvidia installed
[20:30] <abhijit> !unetbootin | Saevar
[20:30] <DasEi> cablop: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:30] <wessel> In the bios I only have the usb-device set as bootable, is this what causing the ubuntu installation to crash?
[20:30] <cablop> ok
[20:31] <Saevar> abhijit, not working, tried
[20:31] <DasEi> cablop: sudo service gdm start
[20:31] <abhijit> hey that factoid is changed?
[20:31] <crom> hi all....anyone knows how to get "dund"
[20:31] <abhijit> Saevar, whats the error?
[20:31] <cablop> then i'm going to restart the x ZykoticK9 DasEi
[20:31] <DasEi> see above, cablop
[20:31] <Saevar> abhijit, no error but data are not on flash
[20:31] <tomhoo> echo -s
[20:31] <cablop> didn't started it through gdm
[20:31] <abhijit> Saevar, you tried unetbootin?
[20:31] <Saevar> abhijit, yep
[20:31] <cablop> i think i have to kill it them startx
[20:31] <crom> chilenooooooooo
[20:31] <crom> jeje
[20:31] <abhijit> Saevar, partition with fat32?
[20:32] <Ping_Floyd> sabee
[20:32] <Saevar> abhijit, yep
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> crom, you need to restart if you installed nvidia FYI
[20:32] <psycho789> where do i find a program ive installed
[20:32] <abhijit> Saevar, ohhh :(
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> cablop, see my message above!
[20:32] <haresh> how to ceheck a MD5 for a burned cd ?
[20:32] <abhijit> psycho789, whereis <packagename>
[20:32] <DasEi> psycho789: /usr/bin mostly
[20:32] <Saevar> abhijit, i'm trying to make bootable flash disc of opensolaris live...nothing works...dd,unetbootin,native iso writer...
[20:32] <cablop> the one saying sudo service gdm  stop??
[20:32] <cablop> the one saying sudo service gdm  stop?? ZykoticK9 ?
[20:33] <abhijit> Saevar, try in #opensolaris
[20:33] <ZykoticK9> cablop, if you've installed nvidia - there is a kernel module installed that requires a Reboot!
[20:33] <psycho789> abhijit, thanks
[20:33] <abhijit> psycho789, :D
[20:33] <haresh> how to ceheck a MD5 for a burned cd ?
[20:33] <crom> hi all....anyone knows how to get "dund"
[20:33] <unimatrix> sound doesn't work in wine / Lucid... is there a known bug about it?
[20:33] <abhijit> once again :P
[20:33] <cablop> ZykoticK9: ok, i'll reboot then
[20:33]  * abhijit is just kidding..... :D
[20:33] <DasEi> !md5sum | haresh
[20:34] <Saevar> abhijit, tried, this is not problem of opensolaris, this is problem of actual os to write data :P
[20:34] <DasEi> haresh : just md5sum >SomeFile<, then compare
[20:34] <abhijit> Saevar, hmm. cant help.
[20:34] <Ping_Floyd> hey ZykoticK9  how about dd if='file.img' of=/dev/<usb device>
[20:34] <Snandy> I am completely and totally lost what to do with dmraid. Does anyone know of a dmraid for dummies guide somewhere?
[20:34] <pandaren> hi i am using pidgin with torsocks how can i be sure that i am anonymous?
[20:34] <haresh> ok thenks guys
[20:35] <DasEi> Ping_Floyd: that won't boot (caspar, other bootloader)
[20:35] <wessel> are there any known causes of unbuntu going gray during installation on old laptops?
[20:35] <abhijit> crom, sudo apt-get install bluez-compat
[20:35] <haresh> can i burn it on a dvdrw ??
[20:35] <DasEi> haresh: a dvd iso yes, not a cd iso
[20:35] <ZykoticK9> Ping_Floyd, ? i don't do too much ISO/USB stuff like that.  Saevar
[20:35] <abhijit> crom, this what ubuntu tell me when i try to run command dund in terminal: The program 'dund' is currently not installed.  To run 'dund' please ask your administrator to install the package 'bluez-compat'
[20:35] <Ping_Floyd> holis
[20:35] <maco> wessel: when a window goes grey, thats like "not responding" -- doesnt mean its crashed, just that its too busy to respond to clicks
[20:35] <ratcheer> haresh: Yes
[20:35] <haresh> if i were to burn a cd iso on a dvd it will not work right
[20:35] <maco> wessel: so, it might just be really busy with installiing
[20:36] <ZykoticK9> haresh, yes
[20:36] <DasEi> haresh: Is my experience least
[20:36] <Saevar> abhijit, thank's for trying
[20:36] <ratcheer> DasEi: I have successfully burned and used many CD iso's to DVD RW
[20:36] <abhijit> Saevar, yah.
[20:36] <wessel> oh
[20:36] <wessel> I terminated it xD
[20:36] <wessel> how long do I need to wait?
[20:36] <wessel> I waited like 3 minutes
[20:37] <haresh> no wonder was getting the error unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[20:37] <DasEi> haresh : anyway, usb is faster, if machine boots it and stick got least 1 gb, and saves a medium
[20:37] <maco> wessel: installation itself takes 15minutes to an hour depending on the hardware...
[20:37] <wessel> I'm now doing run ubuntu from usb
[20:37] <wessel> it goes gray again
[20:37] <maco> wessel: like after you hit the "go ahead" (or whatever it says) button at the end of the install wizard
[20:37] <wessel> after the * * * * * {o} screen
[20:37] <unclemantis> ok i need a dumb answer. How do i view my apache server log file and when an error is written view the update
[20:37] <unclemantis> you know, scrolling like
[20:38] <Pici> unclemantis: Can you rephrase that question? I'm not sure what you're asking.
[20:38] <DasEi> cablop: does it work after a reboot ?
[20:38] <ZykoticK9> maco, i interpret wessel's * to mean Plymouth, perhaps X is failing to start?
[20:38] <Snandy> When using dmraid, I can't use any triggers, it keeps telling me "ERROR: you must be root"  So how do I gain root to mess around in terminal?
[20:38] <unclemantis> i want to view the contents of error.log as well as any updates to it
[20:38] <unclemantis> monitor it
[20:38] <Pici> Snandy: sudo -i
[20:38] <DasEi> Snandy: sudo as a prefix it
[20:38] <wessel> maco: I start my pc, it boots from usb, asks options like start from usb, or install ubuntu to hard disk
[20:39] <Pici> unclemantis: tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log
[20:39] <maco> ZykoticK9: oooh
[20:39] <wessel> i hit start from usb
[20:39] <DasEi> Snandy: sudo dmraid -a
[20:39] <Snandy> Pici: Thanks   What is "sudo"?
[20:39] <unclemantis> tail... right
[20:39] <Pici> !sudo | Snandy
[20:39] <DasEi> !sudo
[20:39] <unclemantis> thanks :)
[20:39] <wessel> it shows the ubuntu symbol --> {o} and 5 red dots * * * * *
[20:39] <maco> wessel: is it using an intel 8xx graphics chip?
[20:39] <DasEi> hehe
[20:39] <wessel> starts loading, and bam, gray
[20:39] <wessel> maco I think so
[20:39] <Snandy> !sudo
[20:39] <ZykoticK9> wessel, try selecting "try ubuntu" to get into Live Mode to see if that works, if it does, select the Install icon on the desktop
[20:39] <wessel> its centrino I think
[20:40] <Pici> Snandy: Just look at what ubottu said above ^^
[20:40] <maco> wessel: can you use an alternate install cd?
[20:40] <Snandy> ahhh
[20:40] <abhijit> !bot > Snandy
[20:40] <Snandy> SOrry, the text is going so fast here, I got lost
[20:40] <wessel> maco I don't have a cd burner here
[20:40] <DasEi> Snandy: also can /query ubottu, so keep the channel readable
[20:40] <maco> wessel: you might be hitting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes if its an intel 8xx (umm... before 2004 or so)
[20:40] <tesuji> has anyone configued wifi without using networkmanager?  OR have you used networkmanager with a static?
[20:41] <Snandy> Thanks, makes sense now. I don't like just learning commands, I like learning why and how, so things make sense.
[20:41] <wessel> Inspiron 510m, Pentium M 755 (2.0 GHz, 2MB, 400MHz), 15.0” SXGA+ LCD Screen
[20:41] <wessel> its this
[20:41] <pandaren> f
[20:41] <DasEi> Snandy: in that info, factoids can be evoked just by their name, so !sudo here there is just sudo
[20:41] <Pici> DasEi: It doesn't hurt if you use the ! in pm.
[20:41] <ZykoticK9> maco, i'd really encourage wessel to try a live environment to see if it works (would indicate a problem/get solution prior to actual install)
[20:42] <tesuji> has anyone configued wifi without using networkmanager?  OR have you used networkmanager with a static?
[20:42] <wessel> ZykoticK9: what you mean live mode?
[20:42] <DasEi> Pici:but then I would be faster ;-)
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> wessel, like a LiveCD or in your case a LiveUSB
[20:42] <wessel> don't I have this already?
[20:42] <tesuji> has anyone configued wifi without using networkmanager?  OR have you used networkmanager with a static?
[20:42] <wessel> it asks "run ubuntu" from usb..
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> wessel, yes select Try Ubuntu instead of install
[20:42] <wessel> I did, goes gray
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> wessel, then "run ubuntu" my bad
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> wessel, right - you have an xorg issue for sure.
[20:43] <wessel> xorg? :-/
[20:43] <DasEi> tesuji: again, edit inerfaces
[20:43] <maco> ZykoticK9: well a live one wont boot :P in cases where that happens, alternate is the only way to go, then you can repair from there
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> wessel, maco intel issue may apply
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> maco, true
[20:43] <maco> wessel: xorg = the graphics system
[20:43] <wessel> k
[20:43] <tesuji> DasEi, that's good for setting up a wired link but wifi needs a key
[20:43] <wessel> can this be fixed?
[20:44] <ZykoticK9> maco, just recommending downloading another ISO if not required, is kinda...
[20:44] <maco> wessel: the screen where it asks...looks fully graphical? or is a solid screen with a list of options?
[20:44] <wessel> where it asks what?
[20:44] <wessel> boot from usb?
[20:44] <abhijit> tesuji, i dunno but thsi can be any help? I am not sure but just look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZeroConfNetworking
[20:44] <wessel> looks normal
[20:45] <maco> wessel: is it a window on top of a purple background?
[20:45] <wessel> looks very similar to this
[20:45] <DasEi> tesuji: wpa ?
[20:45] <wessel> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Ubuntu-Server-USB.jpg
[20:45] <wessel> ofcourse not with server
[20:46] <ZykoticK9> wessel, do you happen to know what version of ubuntu you are installing?
[20:46] <tesuji> abhijit, that's for ad-hoc.  what i need is to use networkmanager to discover and link to the wifi, but not accept dhcp settings
[20:46] <erkan^> who have blogtk too?
[20:46] <abhijit> tesuji, ok
[20:46] <wessel> http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/sshot110.png
[20:46] <wessel> like this!
[20:46] <wessel> its with USB
[20:46] <abhijit> hello erkan^
[20:46] <FloodBot3> wessel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <DasEi> tesuji: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[20:46] <erkan^> hey abhijit
[20:46] <erkan^> :-)
[20:46] <abhijit> :)
[20:47] <erkan^> which blogprogram have you now/
[20:47] <wessel> ZykoticK9: the latest
[20:47] <wessel> ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386
[20:47] <abhijit> erkan^, no one. just using browser only. :)
[20:47] <DasEi> tesuji: after installing wpa support, can start it from interfaces, but I avoid wireless, so might find someone more common with it
[20:47] <erkan^> ok
[20:47] <erkan^> :-)
[20:47] <erkan^> !blogtk
[20:47] <abhijit> erkan^, have you solved that drivel issue?
[20:47] <erkan^> I search a HTML-code for IMG SRC
[20:48] <erkan^> i use blogtk now, ahmad
[20:48] <erkan^> abhijit,
[20:48] <abhijit> erkan^, so you dont found any solution for drivel?
[20:49] <erkan^> i have well found, but it is unstable
[20:49] <erkan^> you have need : ppa for Debian
[20:49] <wessel> I'm now running memory test works fine
[20:49] <erkan^> I can not rembemer
[20:49] <abhijit> !pm | lvlnx
[20:49] <wessel> I'll try and get my camera and make some photos
[20:50] <abhijit> erkan^, ok.
[20:50] <erkan^> (-:
[20:50] <qwert666> when i`m mounting a device i have a certain default icon, how do i change it ? i can do it in properties but it`s only a temporally solution ... any clues ?
[20:50] <abhijit> lvlnx, PLEASE READ WHAT UBOTTU SAYS
[20:51] <kenwiliest> the commadn for turnning of the system via shell?
[20:51] <lvlnx> How may I be protected from ddos?
[20:51] <maco> !caps | abhijit
[20:51] <oCean_> abhijit: you can also just /ignore him
[20:51] <abhijit> maco, yes you can read it. but he cant.
[20:51] <maco> lvlnx: by not being online
[20:51] <abhijit> oCean_, yah
[20:51] <haresh> when i run the cd tp install ubentu it just stop at unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[20:51] <wessel> maco: yes the background is purple
[20:51] <kenwiliest> maco, the command to shutdown system via shell??
[20:52] <frxstrem> is it possible to remotely lock a computer through SSH?
[20:52] <maco> kenwiliest: "sudo halt" or "sudo shutdown -h now"
[20:52] <lvlnx> Nobody can disconnect me by ddos?
[20:52] <maco> wessel: hmm so xorg might, in some way, be working.... ZykoticK9 do you know when X kicks in?
[20:52] <digitalfiz> anyone have the vmware player .deb? I cant get vmware to send me the email. I got an account created email but it just wont send the email with the links for vmware player
[20:52] <tensorpudding> your ISP might disconnect you if you get DDoSed
[20:52] <littlepenguin> snort can detect some sorts of ddos attacks lvlnx
[20:52] <maco> lvlnx: you cant be DDoS'd if you're not online.  if you are online, you certainly can be
[20:52] <abhijit> lvlnx, dear you are welcome in this channel. just ask your questions here in main channel. thanks
[20:53] <Lemmiwinks>  Hi there, I've got a pretty nasty problem with my Ati radeon 8500 under Jaunty, using the radeon driver. The xserver randomly fails to start, resulting in a black screen.
[20:53] <Lemmiwinks>  I found out that it could have something to do with the AGP Mode.I played around a lot with the bios settings that are somehow related to AGP but with no luck.
[20:53] <ZykoticK9> wessel, is your mouse working when you see this background?  if so xorg is working.  maco
[20:53] <wessel> I made some photos
[20:53] <wessel> i'll upload them
[20:53] <Lemmiwinks> I did the same in xorg.conf (AGP Modes, AGPfastwrite...) but with no luck too.Anyone an idea?
[20:54] <haresh> help pls
[20:54] <lvlnx> I heard that it is possible to make ping receive fiewer like 40 bytes/sec by console, is it true?
[20:54] <Pici> !ot | lvlnx
[20:54] <jNovice> how to instal amarok 2.3 at ubuntu 9.04? I just have amarok 2.1
[20:54] <erkan^> abhijit, ?
[20:54] <erkan^> <img src> ?
[20:54] <erkan^> for image
[20:54] <wessel> could you look here please? http://devio.us/~wessel/dell510/
[20:54] <wessel> http://devio.us/~wessel/dell510/IMG_1326.JPG
[20:55] <abhijit> erkan^, yes?
[20:55] <wessel> http://devio.us/~wessel/dell510/IMG_1328.JPG
[20:55] <wessel> http://devio.us/~wessel/dell510/IMG_1329.JPG
[20:55] <wessel> etc
[20:55] <erkan^> have you learned: HTML-basic 4.1, abhijit ?
[20:55] <wessel> ZykoticK9: no I don't have a working mouse
[20:55] <abhijit> erkan^, dunno the version but i know little bit about it. still i am not expert. :)
[20:55] <wessel> I'll try plug in a mouse
[20:55] <erkan^> ok
[20:56] <abhijit> erkan^, what your question?
[20:56] <oCean_> JimmyJ: would you be so kind not to public change your nick when you're away/back?
[20:56] <erkan^> i want make a blog. i add a image too but i don't konow what is good HTML-code for a image. --> IMG
[20:56] <welinux> digitalfiz: can't get wmware player?
[20:57] <wessel> ZykoticK9: when I plug in a mouse into the USB, it does not light up (receive power)
[20:57] <abhijit> erkan^, come in pm
[20:57] <komputes> Is there something special that needs to be done to have links clicked in thunderbird focus the firefox window upfront instead of in the background?
[20:57] <wessel> maco: do you need any other screens? ? http://devio.us/~wessel/dell510/
[20:57] <digitalfiz> welinux, i cant get the email with the download stuff in it. i dunno why. I got the account creation email
[20:57] <wessel> this is the purple screen I get: http://devio.us/~wessel/dell510/IMG_1332.JPG
[20:57] <Snandy> Why is Ubuntu asking me for passwords on Windows network shares that are not passworded?
[20:58] <kbmaniac> hi, ubuntu one, new installof 10.04, sync complete but still not synced all files as displayed on web interface, any  ideas ?
[20:58] <ZykoticK9> wessel, maco that's only Plymouth that's purple, not xorg.
[20:58] <slow-motion> hi
[20:58] <welinux> digitalfiz: I'll try to I like VMWare player
[20:58] <digitalfiz> welinux, thank you :D
[20:58] <maco> ZykoticK9: the wallpaper in X is purpley...
[20:58] <wessel> I'm not really sure what to do from here...
[20:58] <wessel> install suze? XD
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> maco, see the screenshot ;)
[20:59] <haresh> any one can help
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> maco, this one http://devio.us/~wessel/dell510/IMG_1332.JPG
[20:59] <wessel> ZykoticK9: its not a screenshot, its a photo with a photo camera
[20:59] <maco> ZykoticK9: oh i see
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> wessel, of course!  you'd need a framebuffer screenshot program running before the system started!  impossible.
[21:00] <maco> wessel: this is called geeks forgetting about the world taht existed before computers ;-)
[21:00] <haresh> when i run the cd tp install ubentu it just stop at unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[21:00] <abhijit> haresh, just repeat your questions after some apprx 10 min rather than saying 'anyone can help'
[21:00] <haresh> okei
[21:00] <maco> ZykoticK9: in this new world of booting that has the "try" option in a window instead of on the boot splash plymouth thingy... is it possible to modify kernel boot parameters?
[21:00] <maco> ZykoticK9: if so, wessel could try disabling kms
[21:01] <DasEi> haresh: you burned the md5sum-checked cd on a cd-medium ?
[21:01] <haresh> yeah
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> maco, hold shift on Grub2 and enter "text" as a kernel parameter
[21:01] <maco> ZykoticK9: er... there's grub on the cd?
[21:01] <DasEi> haresh: did you try the cd's self-test also ? verify medium ?
[21:02] <haresh> yeah i did
[21:02] <haresh> it passed
[21:02] <ZykoticK9> maco, LOL good point!  not sure?  oops
[21:02] <pieter_> hello
[21:02] <jimdefied> greetings!
[21:02] <DasEi> haresh: so you can try some bootoptions, still, starting with ACPI=OFF
[21:02] <maco> ZykoticK9: to turn off kms you need:  i915.modeset=0       <-- that added to end of kernel boot params, but i dont know how to do that on lucid CDs :-/
[21:03] <haresh> hmm ok
[21:03] <haresh> brb
[21:03] <Watson516> After grub loads, my numlock turns off for all operating systems installed. Is this a grub fix or bios fix I should be looking for?
[21:03] <jimdefied> I'm curious if anybody has heard of an issue with lshw on 10.10
[21:03] <oCean_> jimdefied: maverick discussion in #ubuntu+1
[21:03] <jimdefied> thank you
[21:03] <hobbsc> i've got ufw turned off and i'm running motion.  it's listening on ports 80 and 8081. i can connect to both ports locally, but not from another machine on the same subnet.  i can ssh into the machine from other boxes on the same subnet, though
[21:03] <wessel> its still running windows still fine xD
[21:03] <wessel> windows XP
[21:03] <hobbsc> anyone have any idea how i can open those ports so that other boxes can get to it
[21:04] <trism_> maco: it's the same as on other cds, you just need to hit some button to get the menu back (maybe escape?)
[21:04] <pieter_> can anyone tell me if its possible to see how much power a usb device is drawing?
[21:04] <wessel> when I boot from hard disk that is, so I'm not sure about this grafics controller talk, ... but seems to me I should get a different version of ubuntu
[21:04] <ZykoticK9> maco, i just tested in VM Lucid LiveCD hold shift bring up the "boot graphics" option.
[21:04] <wessel> a version of unbutu that has different graphic drivers
[21:04] <ZykoticK9> maco, and kernel parameters
[21:05] <maco> trism_: previous CDs and the kubuntu cd have a "options" menu at the bottom if you hit f6
[21:05] <liaoshengshu> 都说英文
[21:05] <maco> !cn | liaoshengshu
[21:05] <maco> ZykoticK9: can you tell wessel how to get to that?
[21:07] <grendal_prime> nevermind DasEi. I figured it out . just some stupid firewall issue had nothign to do with my configs at all...crap..ok done now though
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> wessel, hold SHIFT down after selecting your boot device (right after BIOS by default) you should get a menu choice.
[21:07] <wessel> yes
[21:07] <DasEi> !yay | grendal_prime
[21:07] <wessel> where I do this?
[21:07] <wessel> in the bios?
[21:07] <wessel> for me its F12
[21:07] <wessel> to select bootable device
[21:07] <trism_> maco: I'm pretty sure that is still there, it's just that the isolinux/syslinux menu isn't shown by default, you have to hit some button that I can't remember to get to it on the purple screen (I originally needed nomodeset, which was in the f6 menu)
[21:08] <cilly_> okay I'm trying to get the z35 driver to work.  According to the tutorial, I type /usr/lib/cups/backend/z35 at the terminal and the output should be direct z35:/dev/usb/lp0 “Lexmark Inkjet color printer” “Lexmark Printer”  It returns nothing.  Anyone know whats going on?
[21:08] <maco> wessel: dont go *into* the bios
[21:08] <wessel> ZykoticK9: I'm selecting USB
[21:08] <wessel> and then I'm gonna hold shift
[21:08] <maco> wessel: just after you see the bios thing, hold shift down so that the ubuntu catches that while it's booting
[21:08] <wessel> so I hold shift before I get the choice screen
[21:08] <AviMarcus> darn. only 20 minutes of scrollback. I'd like software to sychronize two folders, which also deletes files. Any suggestions?
[21:08] <wessel> k
[21:08] <ZykoticK9> wessel, after bios - you should see "Load boot graphics" if you held shift properly.
[21:09] <wessel> nope didn't get it
[21:09] <wessel> and I was pretty fast
[21:09] <ZykoticK9> wessel, don't tap, hold shift down is my only hint
[21:09] <wessel> it just goes to "automatically boot in 5 seconds"
[21:10] <wessel> I'm now in the choice menu, "run ubuntu from this USB" etc
[21:10] <wessel> I need press shift before this right?
[21:10] <cablop> ZykoticK9, DasEi i just reboted now... now i got screen again, ut i guess it's not the nvidia driver... also it's whowing the spalsh screen... butt i told it to not to do... weid
[21:10] <wessel> [Installer boot menu]
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> wessel, autoboot hit enter - then try holding shift down
[21:10] <haresh> still the same bro
[21:11] <ZykoticK9> cablop, proprietary nvidia destroys Plymouth (boot splash) - fact of life i'm affraid.
[21:11] <DasEi> cablop: good enough to edit a file ?
[21:11] <wessel> hmm
[21:11] <wessel> its booting windows
[21:11] <wessel> I need to go in bios xD
[21:11] <DasEi> !who | haresh
[21:11] <wessel> and change boot order
[21:11] <FloodBot3> wessel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:11] <cablop> in fact i want to remove that plymouth thing
[21:11] <haresh> sorry
[21:11] <haresh> DasEi, still the same
[21:12] <Snandy> Is there an app that will burn an ISO from a network share?
[21:12] <digitalfiz> welinux, i finally got it but its a .bundle i habe no idea what to open it with lol
[21:12] <DasEi> haresh: So.. wrong architecture maybe (386/64 ?)
[21:12] <cablop> ZykoticK9: then next step is... i think i have no nvidia drivers, and no way to detect if i have nvidia...
[21:12] <wessel> k I got it
[21:12] <SCD[Eire]> Hey guys. Cheese can see my webcam but no other program can. How can I fix this? :P the webcam is located in /dev/video0
[21:12] <haresh> DasEi, 386
[21:12] <DasEi> cablop: good enough to edit a file ?
[21:12] <ZykoticK9> Snandy, any app could, but you're likely to run into issue burning across a network, unless it's real fast!
[21:12] <cablop> yep, i can edit a file
[21:12] <wessel> what I type there?
[21:12] <wessel> SYSLINUX 3.86
[21:13] <welinux> digitalfiz: I'm only downloaing :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[21:13] <DasEi> haresh: that should run on both, so then try the alternate cd, that boots on "exotic" hardware easier
[21:13] <wessel> Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot
[21:13] <Snandy> I have burned off of the network plenty of times. But the default burner just told me "not supported by backend"
[21:13] <wessel> boot: _
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> cablop, System / Admin / Hardware Drivers
[21:13] <cablop> i thought that the kernel upgrade did that.... maybe... i'll stick to security updates only then :(
[21:13] <haresh> my spec is a old spec
[21:13] <cablop> ZykoticK9: yes, i'm in that place, but it's not detecting my card
[21:14] <DasEi> cablop: no need, dkms will take care of it
[21:14] <Spec> haresh: Well, here, I'm a new spec.
[21:14] <DasEi> !alternate | haresh
[21:14] <wessel> ZykoticK9, maco: I'm in the menu [SYSLINUX], now what?
[21:15] <haresh> DasEi, http://ubentu.pastebin.com/z2tgdv8c my spec
[21:15] <karlo> I created account on ubuntu one (on web-site), but I do not know how to log in ubuntu one on my computer (system/preferences/ubuntu one)
[21:15] <welinux> digitalfiz:  sudo chmod +x ./VMware-Player-2.5.1-126130.i386.bundle  && gksudo bash ./VMware-Player-2.5.2-156735.i386.bundle
[21:16] <DasEi> haresh: nothing too exotic, though your ati will only support fglrx
[21:16] <haresh> DasEi, so what do u recommand me to do ?
[21:16] <DasEi> haresh: also desktop should work there, but as said, alternate supports wider variety, so try that
[21:16] <newbli> hi all
[21:16] <newbli> svn-server-sent-unexpected-return-value.html
[21:16] <newbli> any help?
[21:17] <DasEi> haresh: there is no usb-thumb in your range ?
[21:17] <haresh> DasEi, what do u mean
[21:17] <cablop> well, my problem is no nvidia card in hardware drivers...
[21:17] <DasEi> haresh: have you got a usb-stick of least one GB ?
[21:17] <haresh> nope
[21:18] <DasEi> haresh: k, then d/l the alternate iso and burn again on slow speed
[21:18] <digitalfiz> welinux, ty :)
[21:18] <wessel> "maco, i just tested in VM Lucid LiveCD hold shift bring up the "boot graphics" option."  <-- I don't have no boot graphics option
[21:18] <cablop> how good could be to use the linux-server kernel in a desktop cmputer?
[21:18] <maco> wessel: do you have an option to modify kernel parameters?
[21:18] <maco> wessel: or the boot line?
[21:18] <haresh> DasEi, is this the file http://mirrors.cytanet.com.cy/linux/ubuntu/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-alternate-i386.iso
[21:18] <maco> wessel: something like that?
[21:18] <wessel> boot line
[21:18] <DasEi> haresh: yes
[21:18] <wessel> ls, could not find kernel ls..
[21:18] <wessel> boot:
[21:19] <haresh> DasEi, ok thanks
[21:19] <DasEi> cablop: no problem, but that won't be your problem
[21:19] <DasEi> !headers
[21:19] <welinux> digitalfiz: where is Linux version to download ? lol ^)
[21:19] <karlo>  I created account on ubuntu one (on web-site), but I do not know how to log in ubuntu one on my computer (system/preferences/ubuntu one)
[21:19] <cablop> i'm tryoing to setup a computer as temporary development station and after a few time move to files server
[21:19] <wessel> maco, boot:
[21:19] <wessel> maco: boot ls
[21:19] <cablop> then i think i can update the server...to mmm
[21:19] <wessel> maco: Could not find kernal image: ls
[21:19] <cablop> anyway
[21:20] <digitalfiz> welinux, once you get the email the link it gives will send you to the page where you have a choice of different windows and linux versions
[21:20] <DasEi> cablop: I suggest that, also build-essential, then d/l driver from nvida, then same again (out of x nvidia-config, reboot)
[21:20] <maco> ZykoticK9: uhhh do you know what to do next? ive not done this before...
[21:20] <DasEi> cablop: shall we try it ?
[21:20] <abhijit> ok. bye all! :)
[21:20] <thune3> karlo: did you go through all instructions in https://one.ubuntu.com/support/installation/  ?
[21:20] <cablop> let me understand all the steps
[21:20] <DasEi> cablop: I'll guide you step by step ..
[21:21] <cablop> i think i'll enable a few repos here, then installla server jkernel, then reboot and then do what you are telling me, does that sound ok?
[21:21] <DasEi> cablop: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[21:21] <Hoober> hello i have a problem. Where is ubuntu software to meet hot chix? i already customized my ubuntu desktop, so i am pretty much in fashion
[21:21] <welinux> digitalfiz: too long                                   anyway happy you've it
[21:21] <DasEi> cablop: 32 or 64 bit ?
[21:22] <cablop> 32bit
[21:22] <Hoober> I have Ubuntu LTS 10.04
[21:22] <cablop> and old hardware
[21:22] <Hoober> how do i access hot girls
[21:22] <Hoober> from software center
[21:22] <cablop> sudo apt-get install sex-apeal XDDDDD
[21:22] <Hoober> do they
[21:22] <Hoober> have a profile too
[21:22] <Hoober> like i want to meet them
[21:23] <DasEi> cablop: call in browser : http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-256.44-driver.html
[21:23] <Oer> !ot | Hoober
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> maco, it sounds like wessel is at a grub boot prompt - i'm really not sure how to proceed from there!  My Lucid CD seems to get a very differnt kernel boot option then wessel is getting?
[21:23] <Hoober> This is a ubuntu problem
[21:23] <Oer> hoober, no it is not.
[21:23] <DasEi> cablop: d/l to desktop
[21:23] <Hoober> trust me i installed ubuntu for this purpose
[21:23] <Daekdroom> !troll | Hoober
[21:23] <wessel> ZykoticK9: so where I download this Lucid CD?
[21:23] <DasEi> cablop: say when done
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> wessel, maco - sorry that's right!
[21:23] <cablop> DasEi, give me a sec, i need to move it from the netbook to the pc
[21:24] <maco> ZykoticK9: clearly i need to buy more broken hardware so i can learn how to fix this stuff...
[21:24] <DasEi> sure
[21:24] <Hoober> so that is what a troll is
[21:24] <Hoober> i never would of known
[21:24] <wessel> maco: omg, my hardware is not broken..
[21:24] <kenwiliest> why... why does pkg_add keep freezing... and every time i make install clean a x11/ gnome2/ etc etc port (dealing with graphics) it never works...
[21:24] <DasEi> !support > Hoober
[21:24] <wessel> it runs windows fine
[21:25] <maco> wessel: i dont mean broken-support-in-linux
[21:25] <wessel> ZykoticK9: what is Lucid CD anyways...
[21:25] <ZykoticK9> maco, and example boot line would be like "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash noapic nolapic" which you could add the i8 intel fix too - but i'm not sure how you find the kernel info for wessel's system to put in there.
[21:26] <maco> wessel: ive been buying explicitly-linux-compatible hardware long enough that my what-to-do-when-its-not-supported-right pile of knowledge is like 3 years out of date
[21:26] <wessel> I think I ran suze once
[21:26] <wessel> on this laptop
[21:26] <wessel> without any problem
[21:26] <SCD[Eire]> Hey guys. Cheese can see my webcam but no other program can. How can I fix this? :P the webcam is located in /dev/video0
[21:27] <Snandy> dmraid will not activate my raids. Is there another option for a hardware based raid?
[21:27] <wessel> ZykoticK9: can't find boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7
[21:28] <cablop> DasEi:downloading the driver, and installing new kernel
[21:28] <ZykoticK9> SCD[Eire], someone last night had a similar issue and fixed it by running "qcset /dev/video0 compat=dblbuf"
[21:28] <wessel> or kernel image... I can't read this fast
[21:28] <kenwiliest> when i startx, i have a basic tribox gui with a login/xterm/xterm box... how do I get it to look normal???
[21:28] <alynn> hi, how can i transfer files from pidgin to yahoo messenger?
[21:28] <haresh> how to erase a dvdrw  ah ??
[21:28] <ZykoticK9> wessel, that isn't right for your system.  the kernel part /boot/vmlinux-BLAH
[21:28] <DasEi> cablop: when done : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:28] <DasEi> haresh : use k3b
[21:29] <fenix> =)
[21:29] <SCD[Eire]> Thanks ZykoticK9, I'll try it now
[21:29] <cablop> DasEi: which prefered repositories? ubuntu-security or ubuntu-updates?
[21:29] <ZykoticK9> wessel, that was only an example - some changes would need to be made, for example root=/dev/hda1 is probably incorrect as well.
[21:29] <DasEi> haresh: or are you on windows ?
[21:29] <chrislabeard> hey guys, I'm trying to run a LAMP server and I cannot figure out how to allow apache to write to files in my directory, If i make the owner of the directory _www it works but then I can't add or edit files. Any ideas?
[21:29] <haresh> Ubentu
[21:29] <tweepcat_> hey
[21:29] <DasEi> cablop: both
[21:29] <haresh> DasEi, on ubentu
[21:30] <fenix> right =)
[21:30] <DasEi> haresh: sudo apt-get install k3b && k3b
[21:30] <fenix> good look bye =)
[21:30] <ZykoticK9> SCD[Eire], someone else suggested turning cheese on (to turn the camera on) - then try other programs
[21:30] <haresh> DasEi, thanks
[21:31] <cablop> dasei, i disabled proposed and backports for stability, but  synaptic prefers one o the ones i left there... or ubuntu or security... cause it'lll be a server in the future i won't stress on keeping it up to date rather to keep it stable
[21:31] <jd__> <---Question if anyone is available
[21:31] <Black_Prince> !ask | jd__
[21:31] <jd__> if a laptop employing vm workstation7 is limited to 4 gigs of ram, would a dedicated swap file be possible to use as a means of increasing the guest's resources?
[21:31] <tweepcat_> i need some help: gparted isn't reading any partitions, so i cant install ubuntu - look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=165569&d=1281038904
[21:31] <DasEi> cablop: sounds fine
[21:31] <SCD[Eire]> Neither worked ZykoticK9
[21:31] <tweepcat_> the partitions are there, but gparted doesn't see them
[21:31] <DasEi> cablop: does apt complain now ?
[21:31] <mysterydesigner> join #elementary
[21:32] <DasEi> cablop: when done : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade               < runs through fine ?
[21:32] <ZykoticK9> SCD[Eire], sorry man that's all i got - it was from someone else last night.  good luck.
[21:32] <cablop> dasei, so maybe to keep security as prefered would be ok, apt? no, i'm still installing the kernel... that grub update takes much time :(
[21:32] <SCD[Eire]> Cheers anyway man <3 :)
[21:32] <cablop> heh?
[21:32] <DasEi> cablop: sure
[21:32] <f0g> On my fresh install, after reboot, the system just sits at a blank screen with a flashing cursor.  No grub menu ever shows up, but grub-install /dev/sda (booted into a livecd to do it) works fine.
[21:32] <f0g> No errors.
[21:32] <tweepcat_> anyone?
[21:32] <Lisa__> hi im having trouble with a hard drive that i think is faulty. im trying to use cp -r to copy files from one diretory on the hard drive to another hard drive but get errors saying cannot stat /media/...  is there anything i can do to work around this? i want backup all the files i can off the possibly faulty hard drive
[21:33] <DasEi> !grub2 | f0g
[21:33] <tweepcat_> i need some help: gparted isn't reading any partitions, so i cant install ubuntu - look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=165569&d=1281038904
[21:33] <DasEi> f0g: there you find a way, you can boot live cd ? want a walkthrough on re-installing grub ?
[21:34] <alynn>  how can i transfer files from pidgin to yahoo messenger?
[21:34] <f0g> DasEi: I can boot a live cd. I've reinstalled grub... three times.
[21:34] <f0g> No go.
[21:35] <ZykoticK9> tweepcat_, in future if you need to post screencast perhaps using  imagebin would be better (no login required).  From the !paste factoid "To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin"
[21:36] <AviMarcus> hey. I'm trying to bridge my wifi to my wired.. but it seems my wired disapeared. What did I do to it and how do I get it back?
[21:36] <Hoober> bored. Gonna DDOS cia.gov
[21:36] <DasEi> f0g: you used mount bind, chroot and also tried a recheck ?
[21:37] <DasEi> Hoober: please join #ubuntu-offtopic, support only here
[21:37] <tweepcat_> http://i37.tinypic.com/2wp4195.png
[21:37] <andrew_2> I'm about to move my /home, but I also want to keep it backed up. Do you think it's ok to dropbox it?
[21:37] <tweepcat_> can anybody help me - gparted isn't working
[21:37] <andrew_2> tweepcat_: Sup with it?
[21:38] <tensorpudding> You want to put your /home under dropbox?
[21:38] <tweepcat_> look at the screen shot - no partitions are showing, but if i run sudo fdisk -l they show
[21:38] <XunZi>  /home dir under dropbox, not a bad idea
[21:38] <erkan^> I am very satisfied with BlogTK, abhmetji
[21:38] <tweepcat_> gparted isn't showing any partitions, which means i cant install ubuntu
[21:39] <systemd0wn> andrew_2, if you're just using it for a backup i would make a script that compresses the home directory and then puts that file into the dropbox folder
[21:39] <andrew_2> systemd0wn: Just what I was asking ;p
[21:39] <XunZi> I just installed handbrake-gtk but the command still can not be found.
[21:39] <tweepcat_> anybody??
[21:39] <andrew_2> But I realise I also have a seedbox slice that'd probably be better suited for backing up to, to be fair
[21:40] <Lisa__> i have folders with names like "My Own Photos" how can i enter names like these into the cp command?
[21:40] <DasEi> XunZi: did you compile it from source ?
[21:40] <tensorpudding> Lisa__: you need to backslash escape the spaces
[21:40] <tensorpudding> like My\ Own\ Photos
[21:40] <XunZi> DasEi, nope, I added the handbrake dailysnapshot ppa
[21:40] <Oer> tweepcat_, fdisk is showing fine, why won't gparted show any ? did you use 'sudo gparted' ??
[21:40] <systemd0wn> tweepcat_, does it recognize the HDD just not the partitions?
[21:41] <andrew_2> Lisa__: Do what tensorpudding said, or you can wrap in "
[21:41] <cablop> dasei give me a few minutes, i'll try to apt pin lkucid before updatng it
[21:41] <tweepcat_> i dont know
[21:41] <Lisa__> so "My\ Own\ Photos" ? ah ok thanks
[21:41] <DasEi> XunZi: I just looked it up, yes, there is a repo
[21:41] <thune3> tweepcat_: i could be wrong, your fdisk -l is weird sda3 has same start as sda5 and sda3 overlaps both sda5 and sda6. what am *I* misunderstanding here?
[21:41] <AviMarcus> where oh where did my eth0 go, oh where o where could it be? Some help, please?
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> systemd0wn, it shows it as unpartitioned space atucally.
[21:41] <tensorpudding> Lisa__: no, not both
[21:41] <jd__> if a laptop employing vm workstation 7 is limited to 4 gigs of ram, can a dedicated swap file (or something of that nature) be used to increase guest performance?
[21:41] <tensorpudding> Lisa__: either use the backslash escape, or put it in double quotes
[21:41] <systemd0wn> ZykoticK9, ah. well uhh.. he should make some partitions
[21:41] <systemd0wn> :)
[21:41] <tweepcat_> okay, how can i wipe the hard drive with all of it's partitions?
[21:42] <ZykoticK9> systemd0wn, "sudo fdisk -l" shows a bunch ;)
[21:42] <DasEi> XunZi: can you find it in the apps menu ?
[21:42] <systemd0wn> haha
[21:42] <Lisa__> ah yea i was trying to seperate that piece from the rest of my message thats why i used quotes.  thanks. im trying to copy files from a hard drive to another one but getting lots of errors
[21:42] <f0g> Just tried to reinstall grub again.
[21:42] <f0g> Still nothing.
[21:42] <f0g> What's going on!? :(
[21:42] <DasEi> fog:how you go ?
[21:42] <systemd0wn> Java Programmers here?
[21:42] <andrew_2> Lisa__: Spaces == new paramater, is what most CLI systems see.
[21:42] <f0g> DasEi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[21:43] <Lisa__> systemd0wn, yes but only basicish
[21:43] <tweepcat_> how can i wipe the hard drive with all of it's partitions - the partitions are messed up and i have all data backed up
[21:43] <XunZi> DasEi, I found it. thx for the efford
[21:43] <DasEi> XunZi: get the brakes
[21:43] <c3l> every time I try to download a file via firefox I get this error /tmp/6N+jpP8M.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.
[21:43] <systemd0wn> Lisa__, i'm just looking to compile a project i found online. I know some C programming but I'm not sure what compiles are common for java, etc
[21:43] <tweepcat_> guys, please help me
[21:44] <DasEi> f0g: boot live cd open a terminal
[21:44] <AviMarcus> $ sudo modprobe -r ssb -- FATAL: Module ssb is in use. How do I disable it?
[21:44] <Lisa__> systemd0wn, if you looking an easy option just use an application like eclipse
[21:44] <krzysztof> hi, can wnyone help me with installing intel gma 4500 drivers on ubuntu please
[21:44] <tweepcat_> how can i wipe the hard drive with all of it's partitions?
[21:44] <f0g> DasEi: Done.
[21:44] <mbeierl> Has anyone here tried to install the VMware infrastucture client under Wine?  I'm getting "err:msi:ACTION_CallDllFunction failed to load dll L"C:\\users\\mbeierl\\Temp\\msi9932.tmp" (998)" on the screen that asks me to select the destination folder and it never proceeds beyond that.  Is there something simple that I've overlooked?
[21:44] <DasEi> tweepcat_: I just followed with one eye, but a live cd, as you can't do partitions on a mounted drive
[21:44] <XunZi> DasEi, the command for handbrake is ghb :\
[21:44] <XunZi> it used to be handbrake
[21:44] <systemd0wn> Lisa__, I thought of eclipse I just wanted an easy command line like with C. :\
[21:45] <Lisa__> systemd0wn i have never used commands so couldnt help you if thats what you wanted. the java site does have good documentation thought
[21:45] <jd__> Lise_ : Try Anjunta
[21:45] <mbeierl> tweepcat_: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX where sdX is sda, sdb, etc for the device of the drive
[21:45] <deanimean> tweepcat_,  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count =1 will wipe out the mbr and partition table.
[21:45] <krzysztof> hi, can wnyone help me with installing intel gma 4500 drivers on ubuntu please
[21:45] <DasEi> f0g: sudo fdisk -l
[21:45] <Lisa__> well if you have java on your machine javac is the command you want
[21:45] <DasEi> !paste
[21:45] <DasEi> f0g^
[21:45] <deanimean> gah, no space in count=1
[21:46] <Fluturas> pls can anyone help me ?
[21:46] <M1TE5H> how to take mbr backup
[21:46] <DasEi> !ask | Fluturas
[21:46] <c3l> every time I try to download a file via firefox I get this error /tmp/6N+jpP8M.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read." what could this be?
[21:46] <systemd0wn> Lisa__, I do appreciate it, ill try it out. rarely see a woman in the CS field. *thumbs up*
[21:46] <DasEi> M1TE5H: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[21:47] <nexus6__> is there a german ubuntu channel?
[21:47] <mbeierl> deanimean: tweepcat_ - the difference in the two commands is deanimean will wipe out the partition table, yes, but if you are looking for complete erasure of the whole drive (although forensic specialists can still get to the history somehow), you should "zero out" the whole device
[21:47] <jd__> can a dedicated swap file be used to increase vm guest performance in w/ workstation 7?
[21:47] <DasEi> !de | nexus6__
[21:47] <M1TE5H> DasEi: Thanks
[21:47] <DasEi> f0g: paste the out from sudo fdsik -l
[21:48] <DasEi> f0g: (l is lower L)
[21:48] <Fluturas> pls can anyone help me ?
[21:48] <filosofixit> My two internal NIC's went dead so I have put in two new NIC's, but they wont appear in ifconfig and the "old" NIC's are still there. I have disabled them in BIOS. Any ideas....
[21:48] <DasEi> f0g: paste the out from sudo fdisk -l  ,typo^
[21:49] <DasEi> filosofixit: does lspci show them ?
[21:49] <filosofixit> DasEi : Yes it does.
[21:49] <thune3> jd__: i personally don't see how it could increase the performance of the vm itself (unless the VM has fixed memory and is running out). Limiting the memory and setting dedicated swap (if your vm does that), would seem to be a way of preventing the vm from taking over your system memory, which reduces the performance outside the vm.
[21:50] <DasEi> filosofixit: kinda nics ? drivers needed or standard ones ?
[21:50] <f0g> On my fresh install, after reboot, the system just sits at a blank screen with a flashing cursor.  No grub menu ever shows up, but grub-install /dev/sda (booted into a livecd to do it) works fine.
[21:50] <DasEi> f0g: please follow instructions, so I canhelp
[21:50] <DasEi> f0g: paste the out from sudo fdisk -l  ,typo^
[21:50] <filosofixit> DasEi : Realtek PCIe 1000mb... should work fine
[21:50] <DasEi> filosofixit: yes
[21:51] <DasEi> filosofixit: not shown in ifconfig you say ?
[21:51] <f0g> The partitions are fine.  Grub is installed.
[21:51] <f0g> I wish it was that easy.
[21:51] <jd__> Thune3 : Agreed--- I looking to expand usable memory beyond that of it the guest's allocation. Say a 4 gig laptop
[21:51] <filosofixit> DasEi : nope... and the old ones appear in ifconfig still... weird
[21:52] <DasEi> f0g: obviously not, so let's recheck grub
[21:52] <DasEi> f0g: paste the out from sudo fdisk -l  ,typo^
[21:52] <krzysztof> does anyone know how to instal intel graphic drivers on ubuntu?
[21:52] <f0g> DasEi: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mRqrpQxN
[21:53] <guntbert> krzysztof: 10.04 should be working with intel from the start
[21:54] <krzysztof> guntbert: how can i check if it is installed correctly?
[21:54] <filosofixit> DasEi :How can ifconfig "see" a NIC that has been disabled in bios?
[21:55] <guntbert> krzysztof: what is your problem?
[21:55] <filosofixit> DasEi : Should I reset my motherboard perhaps?
[21:55] <cablop> DasEi: well... i upgraded the kernel and i lost the graphic interface
[21:55] <cablop> sigh!
[21:55] <AviMarcus> any ideas on how to get back my eth0? perhaps ssb is an issue again, I don't know how to turn it off
[21:55] <DasEi> filosofixit: most prbly from interfaces
[21:55] <DasEi> f0g: so sdb is your main ubuntu ?
[21:56] <DasEi> filosofixit: let's just try to add the two nics
[21:56] <thune3> jd__: sounds worth trying. limit the vm memory to 2-3gig (let's say), and give it a big swapfile. (if your vm supports this). Worth a try I would say.
[21:56] <DasEi> filosofixit: dhcp ?
[21:56] <krzysztof> guntbert: some basic games looks shit, cant watch HD clips on youtube
[21:56] <Shact2> guys, how come I can't log is as root?
[21:56] <filosofixit> DasEi : yup
[21:56] <Shact2> i resent being locked out of my own system
[21:56] <cablop> DasEi: well, i rebooted and got gui again... this thing is so weird
[21:56] <DasEi> filosofixit: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:56] <f0g> DasEi: Yes.
[21:57] <guntbert> !language | krzysztof
[21:57] <DasEi> f0g: let me finish filos.. , brb
[21:57] <filosofixit> DasEi : I've tried that and doing "ifconfig ethX up" manually
[21:57] <DasEi> filosofixit: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:57] <Shact2> also, how do i unencrypt my home folder?
[21:57] <DasEi> filosofixit: open ?
[21:57] <Snandy> Is there version of linux that supports raid drives better? It has been 4 hours of trying and I can not get Ubuntu to mount my raid hard drives
[21:57] <Fluturas> pls can anyone help me ?
[21:57] <DasEi> Fluturas: see above
[21:57] <DasEi> !ask
[21:58] <krzysztof> guntbert: when i was on windows i was able to watch 1080p clips without problems
[21:58] <filosofixit> DasEi : My interfaces-file should be correct... I've tried eth0-5... nothing works :(
[21:58] <cablop> DasEi: done,
[21:58] <cablop> iu[pdated u[pgraded just with security packages, dunno how to pin now
[21:59] <krowten> whats the best data recovery tool to use to recover ubuntu files on another hard drive, using ubuntu os?
[21:59] <filosofixit> DasEi : I will try to do a reset on my motherboard so any "old" settings will be removed.... thanks anyways :)
[21:59] <DasEi> filosofixit: entries for eth0 -3 there ? like auto eth0 / iface eth0 inet dhcp    with "/" as a new line ?
[22:00] <guntbert> krzysztof: sorry, I am no expert with video performance
[22:00] <filosofixit> DasEi : Yup... it's all there
[22:00] <DasEi> cablop: sudo gdm stop
[22:00] <DasEi> filosofixit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[22:01] <DasEi> filosofixit: or has it no inet yet ?
[22:01] <DasEi> cablop: cd /home/$USER/Desktop
[22:01] <cablop> stopped... moving
[22:01] <DasEi> cablop: ls                    <<file nvidiablah.sh there ?
[22:01] <cablop> to the lication of the driver, right?
[22:01] <DasEi> y
[22:02] <cablop> yes it's there
[22:02] <ubuntu_> hello
[22:02] <DasEi> cablop: sudo sh nvidiabalah.run
[22:02] <ubuntu_> hi guys
[22:03] <DasEi> cablop: trowing erros ?
[22:03] <cablop> yes
[22:03] <DasEi> as ?
[22:03] <cablop> it says nouveau is enabled and i need to disable nouveau in order to continue
[22:03] <ubuntu_> how do i xubuntu..?
[22:04] <DasEi> cablop: sudo apt-get remove --purge nouveau-firmware
[22:04] <thune3> krowten: depends on what the problem with the hard-drive/filesystem is. This page (and many others elsewhere) show some strategies: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[22:04] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: say wut?
[22:05] <cablop> mmmm, DasEi it wasn't installed
[22:05] <DasEi> cablop: first see what apt suggests by : sudo apt-get remove nvidia* --dry-run
[22:05] <krowten> thanks thune
[22:05] <DasEi> filosofixit: has the machine any inet at all now ?
[22:06] <converge> when is the next release of ubuntu?
[22:06] <DasEi> !maverick
[22:06] <kc8pxy> what can make my ubuntu "Randomly" kill the Xserver? sometimes it won't get past gdm,  other times it dies in the middle of an app,  other times, i'm only clicking on my mail icon. a few times it's died as my desktop is loading..   what is causing this?   CLI is fine.
[22:06] <cablop> DasEi: it selects a lot of nvidia packges but doesn't suggest anything
[22:06] <converge> DasEi, tks
[22:06] <DasEi> cablop: first see what apt suggests by : sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[22:07] <filosofixit> DasEi : sorry... tryin somehing here now... will be back soon :) thanks for the help so far :)
[22:07] <cablop> and it's not suggestng anything
[22:07] <DasEi> cablop: sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[22:07] <DasEi> f0g: so now we go
[22:07] <kc8pxy> it keeps "rebooting" back to a gdm prompt.  what could be in charge of these resets?
[22:07] <cablop> there's nothing to remove
[22:08] <DasEi> cablop: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_gone
[22:08] <DasEi> cablop: sudo touch  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:08] <AviMarcus> hiya. uhm.. any ideas why my eth0 is missing? It worked fine with the live cd, when first installed, etc..
[22:08] <cablop> the installer didn't  finished, do i need to reboot?
[22:08] <llvllonk> is there no driver for Dell Studio 15 Wireless adapter Broadcom?
[22:09] <DasEi> f0g: terminal live cd open ?
[22:09] <converge> my nm-applet (network manager) do not reconnect, just connect the first time, in the second one i need delete the network and try again. its a know issue?
[22:09] <DasEi> cablop: no nouveau and no nvidia-packages installed and installer stopping ? strange.. try again after a reboot
[22:10] <cablop> i think it had something similar
[22:10] <DasEi> cablop: already in reboot ?
[22:10] <cablop> yes
[22:11] <DasEi> k, let go , then alt-ctrl-F1
[22:11] <thune3> AviMarcus: missing from network-manager only or missing from "ifconfig" output too?
[22:11] <Freudlund_> I did a bad thing, installed nvidia-185-glx, on top of modified driver that i modified, now i can't get to nvidia-xconfig, monitors OR Nvidia X server config
[22:12] <DasEi> cablop: sudo init 1
[22:12] <cablop> DasEi: `rebooted retrying to install driver
[22:12] <DasEi> f0g : ??
[22:13] <DasEi> cablop: where are we now ?
[22:14] <thune3> kc8pxy: what video chip do you have? "lspci | grep VGA"
[22:15] <cablop> DasEi: i'm in the folder of the nvidia driver installer
[22:15] <cablop> i can either retry the install or try the init 1...
[22:15] <DasEi> cablop: try init 1 one, case of broken packages
[22:15] <no--name> what are ~/Public and ~/Templates for?
[22:16] <DasEi> once*
[22:16] <Freudlund_> I remember when I tried to get my nvidia card setup, i blasklisted the nouveau driver somewhere, where might that have been?
[22:18] <Snandy> In DMRAID, when trying to mount my raid, it tells me "nvidia: wrong # of devices in RAID set" I have followed 5 guides now, they all end up in that error and no mount
[22:20] <DasEi> Freudlund: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:20] <no--name> what are ~/Public and ~/Templates for?
[22:21] <thune3> no--name: you can put empty documents (set up how you want them) in ~/Templates. If you right click on desktop you can select "Create Document" and choose one of those files. ~/Public is a vestage for sharing files (if all other stuff in ~/ was locked down except ~/Public)
[22:21] <no--name> thune3: is it safe to delete them?
[22:21] <thune3> no--name: if you don't plan on using them, you may delete them.
[22:21] <no--name> ok cool =)
[22:22] <Freudlund_> DasEi, thx...
[22:22] <DasEi> cablop: so ran dpkg repair.. and then try the installer again ?
[22:25] <neil_ubuntu> reklamo talib :)
[22:25] <cablop> DasEi: i'm getting many errors give me some seconds... i'm reading some srst faild
[22:27] <CT1> Hi.  How can I disable middle click when I press left and right mouse buttons?  ie, I want middle click to be triggered ONLY when I actually click the middle button, not when I click left+right.
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> CT1:  thats a setting called 'mouse cording' (or chording), not sure where its set these days of No Xorg.conf
[22:28] <CT1> Thanks I'll try googling that
[22:29] <DasEi> cablop: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 if the driver won't install
[22:29] <cablop> the driver didn't install
[22:33] <JonathanYC> Hello! :D
[22:33] <JonathanYC> My ubuntu installation says Tcl is installed
[22:33] <JonathanYC> but I can't execute tcl scripts using tcl <scriptname>
[22:33] <JonathanYC> Could anyone help me with this?
[22:33] <cablop> dasei ok, i restarted this thing... then sudo init 1
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> JonathanYC:  and the error it gives is ?  output of 'tcl --version' is ?
[22:34] <cablop> but init 1 throw me that useless [plymouth thing!!!
[22:34] <JonathanYC> Dr_Willis: It says the tcl command is not present
[22:34] <JonathanYC> command not found :/
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> JonathanYC:  then sounds like TCL is not installed..
[22:34] <DasEi> cablop: boot safemode from grub then
[22:34] <JonathanYC> Dr_Willis: Yet it is
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> JonathanYC:  and what did you install?
[22:34] <JonathanYC> I just uninstalled it and reinstalled it twice. What more do you want? 8D
[22:35] <JonathanYC> Tcl of course
[22:35] <JonathanYC> This: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/tcl
[22:35] <cablop> ok dasei booting in recovery mode
[22:35] <JonathanYC> So the command would obviously be
[22:35] <JonathanYC> sudo apt-get install tcl
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> JonathanYC:  what was the exact package name you installed?
[22:35] <enzotib> JonathanYC: tclsh is the same?
[22:35] <JonathanYC> enzotib: No, tclsh is installed
[22:36] <JonathanYC> Dr_Willis: As I have already said, tcl.
[22:36] <JonathanYC> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/tcl
[22:36] <haresh> DasEi, bro when i try it it say unable to mount cdrom
[22:36] <cablop> dasei repaired
[22:36] <DasEi> cablop: netroot
[22:36] <DasEi> cablop: try installing again
[22:36] <magicianlord> what is a good cli radio station player for music?
[22:37] <tesuji> what's a pastebin site that accepts binary files?
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> the 'tcl' package does not comntain a /bin/tcl or anytjhing named tcl -it has 2 binaries in it. (checking package manager)
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> JonathanYC:  try the command 'tcl8.4 whatever.tcl' perhaps?
[22:38] <JonathanYC> Also, the tcl version provided by the repository seems to not be able to run this TI provided script
[22:38] <JonathanYC> Dr_Willis: Yeah, tclsh seems to work
[22:38] <tesuji> pastebin oughta be called pastetext :) what's a pastebin site that accepts bins?
[22:38] <haresh> DasEi, bro keep getting stuck on detect and mount cd-rom
[22:38] <magicianlord> what is a good cli radio station player for music?
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  'bin
[22:38] <cablop> dasei, the downloaded installer or the other one?
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  'bin' as in 'tash can' perhaps.
[22:38] <DasEi> haresh: strange, faulty drive ?
[22:39] <tesuji> magicianlord, http://jango.com
[22:39] <magicianlord> tesuji: that works in console?
[22:39] <DasEi> cablop: try the d/l first
[22:39] <haresh> cant be it can load cds
[22:39] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i do not understand you
[22:39] <haresh> DasEi, cant be i can load other and run windows all using it
[22:39] <DasEi> haresh: the cd starts bootin, then stops ?
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  the term 'bin' = 'a container'
[22:40] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i need a pastebin site for binaries
[22:40] <JonathanYC> Fine, I'll actually ask the whole question:
[22:40] <purpleHaze> h
[22:40] <haresh> DasEi, it gose thru but then stuck on the mounting part and ask me to look for the path
[22:40] <JonathanYC> Has anyone here had success working with the eZ430 on ubuntu?
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  i use drop.io  for that . or  ubuntu one. but i rarely need tio share binaries
[22:40] <cablop> it says it can't run in runlevel 1 dasei
[22:40] <tesuji> dr_willis what about for screen shots to do diagnostics?
[22:41] <DasEi> cablop: ah sure, the modules won't be laoded there, exit, resume normal boot, log in in cmd line
[22:41] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, will pastebin work with drop.io
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  drop.io can do that.  and no drop.io is more then jsut a text pasteing service..
[22:42] <cablop> ok, in shell now and installing... DasEi
[22:42] <DasEi> cablop: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 if the d/l won't install
[22:42] <cablop> ok
[22:42] <Beastmode> hi guys, What do you reccommend I install on a 10 year old desktop with intel p4 1.5ghz and 256 rd ram? Should I install the normal ubuntu or do I need to install one of the other variations of ubuntu for it to be able to run smoothly? I would like to use the machine for web browsing and some word processing in another room for my dad to use. Thanks
[22:43] <cablop> DasEi: it seems to have been installed, no
[22:43] <cablop> w... dm start or reboot?
[22:44] <DasEi> cablop: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:44] <DasEi> cablop: afterwads sudo reboot
[22:44] <magicianlord> why does nvidia screw up the boto?
[22:44] <cablop> the installed ran it at the end... f that's the thing to create a xorg.conf
[22:44] <haresh> DasEi, it gose thru but then stuck on the mounting part and ask me to look for the path
[22:44] <magicianlord> when will this be fixed
[22:45] <th0r> magicianlord: just as soon as nvidia supplies sufficient information for some programmer to write a decent driver. Feel free to contact them and request that
[22:45] <cablop> magicianlord: i think it's not an nvidia problem, but ubuntu forcing all of us to use plymouth
[22:45] <DasEi> haresh: that's a little weird, I have no idea for now, apart from:
[22:45] <DasEi> !bootoptions
[22:45] <magicianlord> [thor]: we plan to conference call with nvidia about that
[22:46] <magicianlord> cablop: that is a big problem. ubuntu is no longer about choice
[22:46] <cablop> :(
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> The boot animation is a big problem?
[22:46] <cablop> yes, it is
[22:47] <cablop> not all of us need it, it interfers tooooooo much when trying to figure out what's happening to your drivers or boot or kernel at boot up
[22:47] <bogeyd6> Where can I go to see the list of updates for a particular ubuntu version, preferably in date order.
[22:47] <cablop> and if it crashes while you are dealing with a video broken dribver, it could leave your card into a non good state
[22:48] <haresh> DasEi, will this be the path for the cdrom when installing also /media/cdrom0 ??
[22:48] <Aemaeth> How do i get multiple wallpapers for each of my desktops
[22:48] <Aemaeth> using compiz
[22:48] <cablop> DasEi: i see a gui... but no effects enabled as before :S
[22:48] <Aemaeth> or any
[22:49] <DasEi> haresh : yes, but maybe the intrd or the kernel is not found
[22:49] <cablop> DasEi: wooooohooooo! thanks a lot, it's working now!
[22:49] <DasEi> cablop: rebooted already  ?
[22:49] <DasEi> cablop: hehehe
[22:50] <cablop> i lost all my compiz settings, but as long as i can work it's not a big deal!
[22:50] <DasEi> cablop: good vies then
[22:50] <DasEi> views
[22:50] <bogeyd6> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lucid-changes/
[22:51] <mun> hi
[22:51] <mun> does anyone know which file gconf-editor modifies?
[22:51] <Aemaeth> so anyone heard of being able to have different wallpapers per desktop?
[22:52] <cablop> hehe, i have my system up and runningagain... an old computer running compiz and working as a server :D
[22:52] <ddilinger> Can anyone suggest a good tool for browsing an svn revision history in a web browser?  something similar to that used at code.google.com project hosting would be plenty
[22:52] <Aemaeth> tried several options/programs and haven't found anything with the configuration capabilities
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> Aemaeth:  in kde its easy.. in gnome.. its not..
[22:53] <trism> mun: the files in ~/.gconf
[22:53] <rooks> i want to disable nfs v3 and make only nfs v4 available, any ideas on how to do it?
[22:54] <mun> trism, do you know which ones are for the gnome panel?
[22:54] <Dante123> hi there.....1gb of memory.....how big should swap file be?
[22:55] <erUSUL> Dante123: 1 GiB
[22:55] <Dante123> not twice that?
[22:55] <erUSUL> Dante123: not needed
[22:55] <Dante123> ok
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> Dante123:  it depends on your ussage.. if you use hibnernate/suspend - perhaps 1gb or more..
[22:55] <Dante123> it is a laptop
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> Dante123:  if you got 1000000GB of HD space.. does it matter :)
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> Dante123:  so it all depends on how you are going to use it. I would say 1gb then.
[22:56] <Dante123> only have 30 gb to play with for /, /home and swap
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> Dante123:  at a min. 512mb. if HD space is tight.
[22:56] <Dante123> i think i will go 1gb....might use suspend/hibernate
[22:57] <Dante123> thanks for advice
[22:57] <nexus6__> is there a channel where you can talk about windows and linux without getting called a fanboy?
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> Dante123:  i never have hibernate/suspend work right for me. :()
[22:57] <Dante123> what size would you give the / directory with the os
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> nexus6__:   thats a ratjher broad topic...  theres alwyas #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:57] <nexus6__> ahh ok thanks
[22:57] <DasEi> nexus6__: #linux
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> Dante123:  i find my big systems / is about 10gb
[22:58] <Goldblade0> hi. alguuien q hable español?
[22:58] <Dante123> would 3gb get me by....
[22:58] <DasEi> !es
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> Dante123:   I would say 8gb at a min.
[22:58] <Dante123> si yo hablo espanol
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> Dante123:  it really SUCKS when / fills up
[22:58] <Dante123> private chat Goldblade0
[22:58] <Goldblade0> hola mira
[22:58] <thune3> Dante123: with only 30GB to play with, i might just put / and home on a single partition.
[22:58] <Goldblade0> tengo este problema con ubuntu q no me deja ver la web en apache en modo wan
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> Dante123:  i agree with thune3 ,  not much to gain with a /home/ in your case.
[22:59] <Dante123> okay
[22:59] <BluesKaj> !es | Goldblade0
[22:59] <rooks> i want to disable nfs v3 and make only nfs v4 available, any ideas on how to do it?
[23:00] <c00lryguy> Can someone help me out? I was following the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization#Cleanup and everything went fine until I got to the Cleanup section. When I ran `sudo umount edit/dev` It tells me that the device is busy
[23:01] <Aemaeth> i guess it's time to admit i'm probably never using kde, so any gnome fix?
[23:01] <Goldblade0> I have Windows 2003 as host, I have installed vmware server with ubuntu 9.10 to ubuntu you install apache and mysql, the problem is locally q webi let me see no problems, but not so wan, router ports and redirect the host,
[23:02] <Goldblade0> now vmware I have put in either nat as in bridge mode but in no way reveals the wan web, try opening all ports but not if it is safe for q ubuntu shows no open port. 2 days ago I walk with this problem and have not found the solution.
[23:02] <linux_op> HI
[23:02] <Goldblade0> excuseme my bad english
[23:02] <rooks> i want to disable nfs v3 and make only nfs v4 available, any ideas on how to do it?
[23:02] <Dasda> hi guys, What do you reccommend I install on a 10 year old desktop with intel p4 1.5ghz and 256mb rd ram? Should I install the normal ubuntu or do I need to install one of the other variations of ubuntu for it to be able to run smoothly? I would like to use the machine for web browsing and some word processing in another room for my dad to use. I will also be connecting to the internet using a wireless adapter. Th
[23:02] <Dasda> e machine has run windows xp in the past 5 years or so. Thanks
[23:02] <c3l> whats the difference between the permission 750 and 0750?
[23:02] <haresh> DasEi,  i try all the ways i can please help
[23:03] <linux_op> DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW CONVERT OUTLOOK CSV TO THUNDERBIRD BIRD CALANDARD?
[23:03] <DasEi> haresh: next look would be bios, if the cd can be set in another way, like scsi or ide
[23:03] <linux_op> LIKE SDB OR ICS?
[23:03] <cage_raphel> c3l: pls follow http://meinit.nl/linux-permission-system-explained ..
[23:04] <DasEi> !caps| linux_op
[23:04] <linxeh> linux_op: you can probably do that with gmail if it helps
[23:04] <Aemaeth> Dasda, i would try xubuntu
[23:04] <KB1JWQ> linux_op: I THINK THAT THERE'S A CONVERT AVAILABLE IF YOU GOOGLE FOR IT. BY THE WAY, WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?
[23:04] <haresh> bios i did all the setting whihc i think can work its still now working
[23:04] <KB1JWQ> converter*
[23:04] <linux_op> didn't notice caps was on
[23:04] <linux_op> but
[23:04] <kermit> what's the typical motive for someone to submit patches?
[23:04] <Gto286> Dasda,  i have the Gnome(default) gui on a even older machine that's a 900mhz amd 512 ram. works just fine
[23:04] <linux_op> is there a software that can do it?
[23:04] <linux_op> my calandar is huge
[23:05] <will_> guys, my laptop fans is always running on low speed, even though I could cook an egg on it, can anyone help me
[23:05] <Dasda> Gto286: are you using 10.04?
[23:05] <Gto286> yes
[23:05] <Dasda> also what do you really loose when using xubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[23:05] <c3l> cage_raphel: thanks
[23:05] <kc8pxy> thune3:  ati radeon hd4350
[23:05] <thune3> 256MB is a tough squeeze for any variation of ubuntu. Of x/k/ubuntu, xubuntu would be the only one that might work. If there is any way to get to 512MB/1GB (cannibalize another machine), that would help greatly.
[23:05] <Gto286> no i,m using the ubuntu. no X
[23:05] <cage_raphel> c3l: you are welcome!
[23:05] <fidess> hi from Abidjan
[23:06] <Aemaeth> Dasda, he has 512, with 256 i'm not sure if ubuntu will even install, xubuntu needs less ram for install
[23:06] <Dasda> thune3: would creating a swap file work? the pc does have 2 hdds in it. One being 120gb and other is 250gb
[23:06] <kc8pxy> thune3:  it's an rv710
[23:07] <Dasda> same question for you Aemaeth, would a swap file work?
[23:08] <thune3> kc8pxy: is that one that supports fglrx?
[23:08] <Gto286> Dasda,  i would reccommend you try the Xubuntu on that machine since you so low on the memmory on that machine.
[23:08] <gra5si> is there a realtime-kernel which is as up 2 date as the vanilla kernel? nouveau is not supported in current rt-kernel...
[23:08] <Patric3> Can someone using lucid try a "ps aux |grep compiz" and let me know whether compiz is running with any args on their system ?
[23:09] <gra5si> Patric3: which version is lucid?
[23:09] <cage_raphel> Dasda: i would suggest u run " puppy Linux" .. it runs well on machines with low memory
[23:09] <Aemaeth> i have an old rack mounted server that had 256 and ubuntu wouldn't even install without it being xubuntu
[23:09] <Patric3> gra5si: 10.04
[23:09] <Gto286> i have puppy. but i find it more a ultility then a o/s
[23:09] <Dasda> Gto286, yea i will give xubuntu a try instead then. really would have loved to run ubuntu b/c of the tremendous suppor available as I will need it as a new user
[23:09] <cablop> ok, time to rest for a while
[23:09] <cablop> see you
[23:09] <cablop> and thanks
[23:09] <Aemaeth> maybe you could play with settings after the xubuntu install if you feel it's missing something from ubuntu, but idk if it could gnome, felt pretty much the same
[23:10] <Gto286> well Dasda  up the anty to at least 512. then you can run the reg ubuntu
[23:10] <kc8pxy> thune3:  yes.. i had fglrx runnign for at least a week now.    i recently upgraded from 8.04  and yesterday was the first update manager notice since. now i have the random resets.
[23:10] <gra5si> Patric3: i don't seem to use compiz... sorry
[23:10] <Patric3> np
[23:10] <cage_raphel> Dasda: did u try the " Damn Small Linux "
[23:10] <Dasda> Gto286: the mobo only supports rd ram and that has been discontinued
[23:10] <haresh> how to edit my source.list
[23:10] <Gto286> ah! ok
[23:11] <Dasda> <cage_raphel: no haven't tried anything yet, I just use xp for now
[23:11] <gra5si> is it possible to revert to an old package that has been updated?
[23:12] <gra5si> i think an update of the usb-libs has screwed my sound-stuff... and would like to go back before that libusb-update on 10.4
[23:12] <iceroot> gra5si: if you have the old package, yes
[23:12] <Dasda> i'lll run xubuntu on vmware on my windows 7 machine to see how it is
[23:12] <cage_raphel> Dasda: i seriously recommend damn small linux.. i have an another machine with 128 MB ram.. and a celeron processor..  damn small linux goes zooom on mine!
[23:12] <Aemaeth> rd ram? dell?
[23:12] <iceroot> gra5si: but normally you will have big fights with dependencies
[23:12] <gra5si> iceroot: the question is, do I have the old package..
[23:12] <gra5si> iceroot: it was just a minor security update...
[23:12] <Dasda> Aemaeth: no it was a custom build about 10 years ago, it was from rambus in partnership with intel
[23:12] <iceroot> gra5si: the repo dont have the old package, so you have to find the old version
[23:12] <Gto286> for me tho i have no dvd support :( i get errors like mpeg ect spit at me...
[23:13] <gra5si> iceroot: guess it was installed when i used the cd
[23:13] <thune3> kc8pxy: it sounds like X is crashing, and one prime suspect is video drivers. I might try reinstalling video drivers, but I can't think of a rational reason why that might help. You might also boot into the kernel that existed before updates (hold shift during boot and select older kernel) to see if that helps
[23:13] <gra5si> iceroot: thanks anyway
[23:14] <radi> hello
[23:14] <gra5si> hi
[23:14] <radi> does anyone here use kiba dock ?
[23:14] <Aemaeth> i use awn
[23:14] <sirwallis> hello
[23:14] <kc8pxy> thune3: rrrrrrrrrrrrr..... imo updates should not break things... but i hear you.
[23:14] <radi> Aemaeth: im asking for kiba, not awn
[23:14] <BluesKaj> Gto286, install ubuntu-restricted-extras , the medibuntu repository www.medibuntu.org , then install libdvdcss2
[23:15] <Aemaeth> what does kiba offer?
[23:15] <radi> funny physics
[23:16] <radi> is there a repo for lucid ?
[23:16] <thune3> kc8pxy: what does this output "lshw -c video 2>/dev/null | grep driver"
[23:16] <radi> i cant compile it ..
[23:16] <radi> i get this error
[23:16] <radi> /usr/bin/install: will not overwrite just-created `/usr/local/include/kiba-dock/kiba-desktop-icon.h' with `kiba-desktop-icon.h'
[23:16] <radi> and i cant find any info on the net
[23:17] <LinuxGuy2009> Is there any command line tool to download a package from the repositories along with every dependency. Ignoring the fact that some may already be installed on the system, I need every dependency to make a complete package repository CD/DVD.
[23:17] <BluesKaj> !repository | radi
[23:17] <kc8pxy> thune3: fglrx_pci
[23:17] <c3l> cage_raphel: so how do I print the sticky bit?
[23:17] <radi> i prefer to compile it actually
[23:17] <radi> anyone know how to fix that error ?
[23:17] <Goldblade> como es la sala en español?
[23:18] <Goldblade> xD
[23:18] <magicianlord> come estas?
[23:18] <magicianlord> como
[23:18] <BluesKaj> radi, compile a repository ?
[23:18] <BluesKaj> !es | magicianlord
[23:18] <radi> no BluesKaj , compile kiba
[23:19] <c3l> LinuxGuy2009: why dont you just list the dependencies?
[23:19] <Guest88088> hi all ,how can i install new thems for my ubuntu 10.4 ?
[23:20] <LinuxGuy2009> c3l: Listing is ok if I want to manually download each one. Is there any way to feed the list of deps to download them all?
[23:21] <Aemaeth> Guest88088, depends on the themes, can try right clicking the desktop to get your appearance settings, or use the system tab, and it has a section for importing themes
[23:21] <c3l> LinuxGuy2009: you want to foreceinstall dependencies that are already there? I dont think there is something that does that by default, I guess theres a better solution to your problem
[23:21] <thune3> kc8pxy: i feel there is a better answer and I haven't found it
[23:22] <LinuxGuy2009> c3l: Well no I dont want to re-install them at all. I just need a way to download a package, for example, VLC media player, and have it download to a folder along with every single dependency.
[23:22] <c3l> LinuxGuy2009: what is it you want to achieve?
[23:22] <BluesKaj> !kiba
[23:23] <kc8pxy> thune3:  thanks for responding to my plee for help. ubuntu works pretty nice,  but comming here to get help usually feels as simple, easy, and painless as pulling teeth from a shark.
[23:24] <LinuxGuy2009> c3l: I want to make an offline repo CD/DVD with APTonCD that contains Gnome, KDE, fluxbox, etc, along with many apps, and I want to make sure that no matter which desktop environment I install that non of the dependencies were missed when making the disk.
[23:25] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: i'd start from a minimal install with none of them, then install ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, fluxbox, and the other apps, then point aptoncd at your /var/cache/apt/archives/
[23:25] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: sudo aptitude install --download-only foo   <--- thatll download without installing
[23:25] <thune3> kc8pxy: just requires patience, you might try again in 15 minutes! if you can look at logs dmesg /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg.0.log after an incident you _might_ find some clues. You might just run updates again, just in case.
[23:25] <kermit> what's the typical motive for someone to submit patches?
[23:25] <haresh> can i install ubuntu without any cd or usb ???
[23:26] <maco> kermit: because it doesnt work and they want it to
[23:26] <maco> haresh: yes, pxe installs are supported
[23:26] <haresh> how can i go about doing that ?
[23:26] <thune3> kc8pxy: all the issues I could find don't seem to apply to your specific case.
[23:26] <will_> Guys, Ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop crashes to a blinking cursor after a while and my caps lock led starts blinking, can anyone help me with this?
[23:26] <erUSUL> kermit: becouse it is cool to say that you have a patch in the kernel ;P
[23:27] <c3l> maco: it seems that doesnt grab all dependencies, as I guess LinuxGuy2009 ran taht
[23:27] <maco> will_: that's a kernel panic. it's a bug
[23:27] <kermit> i'm still confused as to how all this software comes about :/
[23:27] <maco> c3l: it wont grab ones already installed. thats why i said start at a minimal install
[23:27] <magicianlord> kermit: what
[23:27] <Brack10> Hey
[23:27] <maco> kermit: #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for this
[23:27] <Brack10> Booting Ubuntu on different hardware than I installed it on.  Ethernet is missing.  How can I get it back?
[23:27] <kc8pxy> thune3:  yeah..  i seem to get that alot. it's probably a reason i use gentoo most often. all the problems in the system are then my fault,  and not the result of an "update" :-(
[23:28] <maco> kermit: but i suggest reading "Just For Fun" and "The Cathedral and the Bazaar"
[23:28] <will_> maco: that's what I tought, but is there a way to fix that, is it specific to some systems
[23:28] <kermit> maco: i thought this was the entire point of ubuntu
[23:28] <erUSUL> Brack10: lspci | grep -i net
[23:28] <husimon> hey i have an image someone gave me and when I try and load it up with kvm i get "kvm: unhandled exit 4400   kvm_run returned -22"
[23:28] <husimon> any ideas?
[23:28] <kermit> maco: ...if thats off-topic, then i'm even more confused
[23:28] <maco> will_: itll likely be a bug in how the kernel supports *your specific hardware* yeah.  so you need to file a bug
[23:28] <c3l> maco: ah, but there must be a way to do it without installing  a new system
[23:28] <maco> kermit: this channel is only for tech support
[23:28] <husimon> err i guess this is a bit off topic but i'm running it in ubuntu :P
[23:28] <kermit> maco: oh
[23:28] <Brack10> erUSUL: do you want the output or something?
[23:28] <maco> c3l: vm?
[23:28] <erUSUL> Brack10: yep
[23:28] <c3l> maco: still
[23:29] <will_> maco: well ok i'll do that, thanks :)
[23:29] <Brack10> erUSUL: It found my Ethernet card.  Too long to type
[23:29] <delaney_> hi
[23:29] <Brack10> Intel 82545EM Gigabit Ethernet
[23:29] <maco> c3l: there are tools to get dependency graphs. could feed one of those into aptitude's --download-only
[23:30] <LinuxGuy2009> maco: Biggest issue I think I may run into is if I use APTonCD to make a repo disk with apps installed on gnome environment, and then strip ouyt gnome and throw on KDE, that when I go to install one of the packages I put on the disk when I was in gnome, then maybe KDE might say hey your missing some stuff.
[23:30] <c3l> how do I show the 'special permissions' , the zeroth field in the octal number?
[23:30] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: thats why im saying to start at a minimal install. that is, one that doesnt yet have even X on it
[23:30] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: *just* ubuntu-minimal
[23:30] <erUSUL> Brack10: « sudo modprobe e1000 »
[23:30] <haresh> how can i go about doing that ?
[23:30] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: then your repo cd will have everything that goes on top of it
[23:30] <LinuxGuy2009> maco: Ok that sounds like a bulletproof way of doing it.
[23:31] <maco> will_: you can file a bug with "ubuntu-bug linux"
[23:31] <LinuxGuy2009> maco:  Thank you.
[23:31] <pradeep> hi everyone
[23:31] <maco> will_: have a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Apport#How%20to%20enable%20apport for how to enable the crash-detector
[23:32] <maco> will_: if you use that, there's a chance itll catch a dump of what went wrong with the kernel which you can include in the bug report next time it happens
[23:32] <erUSUL> Brack10: does eth0 appear now ?
[23:32] <Brack10> erUSUL: not in ifconfig...
[23:33] <erUSUL> Brack10: "dmesg | tail -n20" shows any error ?
[23:35] <Brack10> erUSUL: no, it says a bunch of profile_load actions for network related stuff
[23:35] <Brack10> no errors
[23:35] <will_> maco: my comp just crashed again
[23:36] <will_> maco: I just finished rebooting
[23:36] <maco> will_: is there any method to the madness?
[23:36] <erUSUL> well according to http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/E1000.html e1000 is the driver for you nick; dunno why it does not work
[23:36] <LinuxGuy2009> maco: Whats the easist way to strip ubuntu down to minimal? tasksel and uncheck everything? Or aptitude?
[23:36] <digitalfiz> can anyone tell me where the nautilus scripts are stored?
[23:36] <will_> maco: sorry, what?
[23:36] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: i think just installing a minimal vm will be the easiest thing
[23:36] <maco> !mini | LinuxGuy2009
[23:36] <c3l> LinuxGuy2009: easiest way is to insatll a new minimal install
[23:37] <coz_> LinuxGuy2009,   mm  well  you could start in synaptic to uninstall things
[23:37] <maco> will_: is there a pattern to when it crashes?  like, when your hard disk is in heavy use? high network traffic? connecting to wifi? starting open office?
[23:37] <coz_> LinuxGuy2009,  other than that  I believe there is a version of ubuntu that is stripped down I cant recall its name
[23:37] <DasEi> LinuxGuy2009: use minimal installer, expert install, install no soft at all, then afterwards just desired packages from cmd-line
[23:37] <DasEi> !minimal
[23:37] <will_> maco: not really
[23:38] <coz_> DasEi,  ah yes that is a good way :)
[23:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok yeah minimal in a Vbox would make it very easy to do this. Thanks thats a great idea.
[23:38] <DasEi> there you go
[23:38] <SH-Chris> Hi, i seem to have a problem when i start ubuntu
[23:38] <SH-Chris> My display cuts out whenever i load ubuntu but teh audio works
[23:38] <maco> will_: darn. ok well file the bug, and someone will show up asking for more info and to try different things and whatnot as they try to sort out whats wrong
[23:38] <richthegeek> hey, my system is using 82% of RAM as a cache - considering I have 8gb of RAM, this seems excessive... I'm not doing any disk writes (so no bursting), but am playing a DVD
[23:39] <DasEi> SH-Chris: which g-card ?
[23:39] <will_> maco: i'll file it and hope people will help
[23:39] <SH-Chris> DasEi: GeForce 6150 LE
[23:39] <coz_> richthegeek,  dvd accounts for some of it but that does seem excessive
[23:39] <will_> maco: thanks a lot for caring
[23:39] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Built in chipset
[23:39] <richthegeek> coz_: yes indeed - also happens when I've got an NTFS drive mounted
[23:39] <DasEi> richthegeek: look up htop, sort pid's for mem to track the "eater"
[23:40] <DasEi> (F6)
[23:40] <coz_> richthegeek,  mm let me do external with ntfs and see if I get the same thing hold on
[23:40] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Funny how GRUB works though xD
[23:40] <llvllonk> anyone know how to get Broadcom wireless adapter to work?  Getting this error message: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" ....my chip is  14e4:4315
[23:40] <DasEi> SH-Chris: propitary driver installed ?
[23:41] <pittstains1> there's a command to monitor when devices (USB, etc) are plugged in or unplugged, but i can't remember what it is
[23:41] <DasEi> !broadcom | llvllonk
[23:41] <pittstains1> or maybe i'm supposed to tail a certain file
[23:41] <pittstains1> anyone?
[23:41] <erUSUL> llvllonk: if you are connected via wired do « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter » reboot
[23:41] <DasEi> pittstains1: lsusb ?
[23:41] <coz_> richthegeek,  well its not using much of anything here  when I attache an external with ntfs   or ext4 or fat32 for that matter
[23:41] <SH-Chris> DasEi: I think so, i dont have any spare video cards and its a built in chipset with teh motehr board itself
[23:41] <erUSUL> pittstains1: tailf /var/log/messages
[23:41] <llvllonk> I did that yesterday, didn't work for me
[23:41] <will_> maco: crashed again :( I'm glad it's fast to boot
[23:42] <DasEi> SH-Chris: system>admin>hardwaredrivers or jockey-gtk as root from terminal
[23:42] <will_> maco: just like that, could it be due to overheating
[23:42] <maco> will_: possibly, yes
[23:42] <maco> will_: check the fan/heatsink for dust?
[23:42] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Im not on Ubuntu now, im on windows
[23:42] <erUSUL> llvllonk: maybe the device is blocked? what does  « sudo rfkill list » say ?
[23:42] <richthegeek> coz_: seems to be rhythmbox which is looking at my music on an ntfs drive
[23:42] <will_> maco: I just realized that my fan runs terribly slow
[23:43] <coz_> richthegeek,  ah that may account for alot of memory use
[23:43] <will_> maco: for my comp temperature
[23:43] <Aemaeth> i found out how to have multiple wallpapers on gnome
[23:43] <llvllonk> oh yea...it said my adapter only works in PIO mode for now?
[23:43] <DasEi> SH-Chris: this card is supported, can also d/l a driver from nv-homepage
[23:43] <basemonkey> is there a irc channel for damnvulnerablelinux?
[23:43] <Aemaeth> it's easy, why would someone tell me otherwise? INTERNET!
[23:43] <basemonkey> or is anybody here familiar with dvl?
[23:43] <richthegeek> coz_ but I have killed rhythmbox now and it's still major cache
[23:43] <ikonia> basemonkey: please don't be stupid in here
[23:43] <basemonkey> #linux forwarded me here
[23:43] <richthegeek> coz_ will now umount the drive
[23:43] <erUSUL> basemonkey: /msg alis list *searchterm*
[23:43] <ikonia> basemonkey: this channel is for serious ubuntu discussion only
[23:44] <coz_> richthegeek,  ooo  then I am puzzled  ...if no one can help here try the ##linux channel...someone there may be able to hunt down the culprit
[23:44] <llvllonk> sudo rfkill list ? command doesn't work
[23:44] <mtm> When is ubuntu going to make a website widgits people can use to list rooms on IRC so they dont have to wait to load 25,000 chatrooms?
[23:44] <SH-Chris> DasEi: I have teh driver for windows but how in teh world will i be able to do that with ubuntu if i can even see anything. As soon as ubuntu loads teh display cuts out and i can only hear sound
[23:44] <coz_> richthegeek,  do you have htop installd?
[23:44] <ikonia> mtm: ubuntu doesn't make the irc clients, so ask the client developers
[23:44] <richthegeek> coz_ yes
[23:44] <mtm> Its hould be thier resposibility
[23:44] <logankoester> Does anyone know how to change the size of the NotifyOSD (libnotify) popups?
[23:44] <mtm> Shouldnt
[23:44] <coz_> richthegeek,  check in that to see what is using it up
[23:45] <mtm> I think, its retarded i have to wait15 minutes ot join this network
[23:45] <DasEi> SH-Chris: you can do that from commandline only, the hp also provides als ahowto
[23:45] <DasEi> also a *
[23:45] <pittstains1> erUSUL: that's what i was looking for, thanks
[23:45] <richthegeek> coz_: cache doesnt show up in mem usage, afaik
[23:45] <will_> maco: is there any ways I can manually change my fan's speed
[23:45] <ikonia> mtm: it's not their responsiblilty - talk to the irc client developers
[23:45] <mtm> A proper listing of support chatrooms you guys provide on here
[23:46] <ikonia> mtm: I'll tell you one more time it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:46] <SH-Chris> DasEi: How an i supposed to access it through teh command line, through teh boot disk?
[23:46] <slow-motion> n8
[23:46] <maco> will_: that, i dont know. you can install software to tell you how hot your cpu is getting...
[23:46] <mtm> Its not Mirc developers to orginize your IRC support channels
[23:46] <will_> maco: any example
[23:46] <SH-Chris> mtm: If you dont understand as to who supports an irc client, then you shouldnt be on irc, period.
[23:46] <maco> will_: actually for fan speed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480
[23:46] <DasEi> SH-Chris: ctrl-alt-F1 for a command line, or use vesa in first hand to have acces to desk first
[23:47] <rideh> Quick question regarding xinerama. I'm using my second monitor rotated (portrait) and I'm trying to setup the y-axis offset to line it up horizontally with my landscape screen.  The settings dont seem to stick. Something special?
[23:47] <ikonia> rideh: are you hardcoding it in your xorg.conf ?
[23:47] <will_> maco: I'll check that soon
[23:47] <rideh> ikonia: yes
[23:47] <will_> maco: thank a lot
[23:47] <DasEi> SH-Chris: ctrl-alt-F1 , then do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should bring to a working (vesa) desktop least
[23:47] <phillip> Hey guys. I need some help tweeking my system.
[23:47] <ikonia> rideh: thats odd, and it's not remembering the settings ?
[23:47] <maco> will_: for cpu temperature checking https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[23:47] <maco> oh too late
[23:47] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Where exactly?
[23:48] <DasEi> SH-Chris: after the bootup
[23:48] <DasEi> SH-Chris: or bootsafemode
[23:48] <SH-Chris> DasEi: After teh bootup i get grub, after grub i get a shut off display
[23:48] <rideh> ikonia: thats what i thought too, but perhaps i'm doing it wrong?     Option         "metamodes" "DFP-2: 2048x1152 +0+540"
[23:48] <DasEi> SH-Chris:there then
[23:49] <SH-Chris> DasEi: But how will i be able to know what im doing if i cant even SEE what im doing :(
[23:49] <ikonia> rideh: I don't see anything wrong, and even if it is wrong, it should remember the wrong settings
[23:49] <DasEi> SH-Chris: tty mostly works
[23:50] <SH-Chris> DasEi: ?
[23:50] <DasEi> SH-Chris: as does booting recoverymode, then use it's root-tty
[23:50] <DasEi> !tty
[23:50] <rideh> ikonia: agreed, also when i setup a static setting it seems to through openGL rendering off.  If i open a game later i get a margin from the top (virtual screen perhaps?) that I cannot correct for.
[23:50] <marienz> 81
[23:50] <marienz> err, gah. Sorry.
[23:50] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Forgot to mention: Tried recovery, same thing :|
[23:50] <rideh> ikonia: but that is by far a 2nd priority
[23:51] <xtasy> How do I make bluetooth always off until i turn it on? it always comes on automatically when i login and i want to save battery
[23:51] <unimatrix> what's wrong with this page? http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/
[23:51] <DasEi> SH-Chris: then goto use live-cd and chroot in
[23:51] <coz_> xtasy,  you could remove it from startup applications
[23:52] <Aemaeth> coz_, sounds reasonable
[23:52] <xtasy> would that turn the radio off?
[23:52] <SH-Chris> DasEi: So i sleect teh boot from cd option? I had to use teh alternate install
[23:52] <DasEi> unimatrix: wrong html as it seems, look at it in tamperdata
[23:52] <octavio> do anybody knows how to install lxdream in ur system i downloaded wat next
[23:52] <datacrusher> anyone suggests a nice screen capture app for gnome?
[23:52] <rideh> ikonia: i'm going to work with it some more, I just noticed these DFP numbers don't seem to coordinate
[23:52] <rideh> datacrusher: hit print screen
[23:52] <DasEi> SH-Chris: on alternate and try repair option, fix x-server
[23:53] <ikonia> rideh: I'm still worried why it doesnt remember though
[23:53] <coz_> datacrusher,  there is already on under application/accessories :)
[23:53] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Allright, ill try taht :)
[23:53] <DasEi> SH-Chris: safer bet is live cd and a chroot in the hd-os
[23:53] <DasEi> !chroot
[23:53] <coz_> datacrusher,  unless you want a screencasting software
[23:53] <SH-Chris> DasEi: IF it doesnt work, expect me back xD
[23:53] <DasEi> hehe
[23:53] <coz_> datacrusher,  if that's the case... gtk-recordmydesktop
[23:53] <rideh> ikonia: because i think i'm changing values not associated with the display mode it is in. I think i'm changing the wrong ones, though there aren't many to choose from
[23:53] <xtasy> thanks coz_
[23:54] <ikonia> rideh: ahhh
[23:54] <Aemaeth> recordmydesktop is ok
[23:54] <octavio> do anybody know how to install lxdream
[23:54] <coz_> xtasy,   no problem...see if that works for you :)
[23:54] <coz_> octavio,  never heard of it but let me google
[23:54] <rideh> datacrusher: hitting alt +printscreen will get the active window
[23:54] <octavio> dreamcast 4 ubuntu
[23:54] <datacrusher> i wanna screencast my desktop
[23:54] <datacrusher> ill grab a look in gtk-recordmydesktop
[23:55] <octavio> coz dreamcast emu 4 ubuntu
[23:55] <igms> 10.04 - ati card - live cd boots but gives me a black screen. Managed to boot with radeon.modeset=0 xforcevesa. Does this get resolved with the installation of official ATI drivers?
[23:55] <coz_> octavio,  ok I have the source package let me take a look hold on
[23:55] <DasEi> igms: which ati ?
[23:55] <rideh> ikonia: if i wanted to align the bottom of my 1920x1080 with the bottom of my 1152x2048  i'd want to +1920 + 1080 right?
[23:56] <ikonia> rideh: I'd have to work it out, I've not done a hardcoded dual screen layout for a long time now
[23:56] <octavio> coz i get a paper after extracting
[23:56] <rideh> ikonia: dont worry bout it, i can play with it :)
[23:56] <igms> DasEi: radeon HD 5670
[23:56] <Aemaeth> recordmydesktop can be ok with the right settings, datacrusher, i think i had best luck with encode-on-the-fly
[23:56] <coz_> octavio,   what do you mean?
[23:56] <ikonia> rideh: once you work out the maths it's easy, but you need to sit and properly work it out
[23:56] <jeeves_Moss> how can I force remove or repair a package?  I have a broken install of icedtea6-plugin and I've tried "apt-get remove icedtea6-plugin", "apt-get remove --purge icedtea6-plugin" and "apt-get -i install"
[23:57] <octavio> coz i downloaded then i extracted it and get a paper thats it cant run
[23:57] <coz_> jeeves_Moss,  did you open synaptic pakcage manager and under  Edit menu  "Fix broken packages" ?
[23:57] <DasEi> igms: though things change and change, this card is half-supported, though not by official ati drivers, but yes, there is some support from opensource for that
[23:57] <coz_> octavio,  did it extract for you?
[23:57] <jeeves_Moss> coz_, tried it.  it fails with an exit code of 1
[23:57] <octavio> coz yup but then i a sheet
[23:58] <coz_> jeeves_Moss,  ok and in synaptic hit Search   type icedtea  and try removeing it?
[23:58] <DasEi> jeeves_Moss: apt-get -f install
[23:58] <jeeves_Moss> DasEi, tried it, same crash
[23:58] <Patric3> Does Ubuntu use cron or anacron ?  How do catchup jobs happen if just cron is being used (i.e. if the machine is powered off)
[23:58] <jeeves_Moss> coz_, tried it
[23:59] <coz_> jeeves_Moss,  mmm  this is puzzling... how did this happen ....do you remember what you were doing / installing / removing at the time?
[23:59] <jeeves_Moss> coz_, I did an apt upgrade, then rebooted
[23:59] <octavio> coz i get a sheet is a deb folder too and it should install na
[23:59] <jeeves_Moss> coz_, "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/icedtea6-plugin_6b18-1.8-4ubuntu3_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[23:59] <rideh> ikonia: Too bad twinview doesnt support rotation :/
[23:59] <elvipolar> clear
[23:59] <igms> DasEi: thanks