mwhudson | thumper: can you look at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/launchpad/vostok-traverse-distro/+merge/31241 again? | 03:32 |
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thumper | ok | 03:32 |
thumper | mwhudson: do you have a few minutes for me to bounce some stuff off you? | 03:32 |
thumper | skype like? | 03:32 |
mwhudson | thumper: ok | 03:33 |
mwhudson | thumper: i'm online | 03:34 |
thumper | mwhudson: I'll have to defer for now, other people calling | 03:35 |
mwhudson | thumper: ok | 03:35 |
mwhudson | thumper: the call or the review or both? | 03:36 |
thumper | the call | 03:36 |
mwhudson | k | 03:36 |
mwhudson | thumper: NotFound is a zope thing | 05:56 |
mwhudson | it's not in lp.app.errors | 05:56 |
mwhudson | so i'm going to ignore that comment? | 05:56 |
thumper | um... | 06:03 |
mwhudson | thumper: NotFound != NotFoundError | 06:05 |
thumper | ah | 06:05 |
thumper | yeah | 06:05 |
thumper | I just worked that out | 06:05 |
mwhudson | for better or worse | 06:05 |
thumper | ok | 06:06 |
mwhudson | something inside traversal converts the latter into the former | 06:06 |
mwhudson | cool | 06:06 |
henninge | jtv: Why do you want to cache the incumbent message in the traits helper? | 07:23 |
* henninge is back to business ;) | 07:23 | |
lifeless | hi henninge | 07:23 |
jtv | henninge: good! :) | 07:23 |
henninge | Hi lifeless! ;) | 07:24 |
henninge | jtv: I am starting to see what Danilo meant by "heavy weight". | 07:24 |
jtv | henninge: those are the helpers, and as I said, those are a bit legacy in that they may not be needed any more. | 07:25 |
jtv | That's not the traits; it's what I extracted the traits out of. | 07:25 |
henninge | jtv: I understand but I would have expected that to go into the class that uses the traits. | 07:25 |
jtv | henninge: can't do that in the class that uses the traits. | 07:25 |
henninge | do what, the caching? | 07:26 |
jtv | The class that uses the traits can be a model class—not good to cache this sort of thing there. | 07:26 |
jtv | We can do it in the code. | 07:26 |
henninge | ok | 07:26 |
jtv | But as I said, this is just what's left after extracting the traits—the caching is the possible reason not to remove the helpers entirely once we have the traits. | 07:27 |
lifeless | do you guys know much about the API export stuff? | 07:27 |
jtv | And I'm not saying we need the caching, just that it's an appropriate and convenient place for it if we do. | 07:27 |
jtv | lifeless: not that much | 07:27 |
henninge | I see | 07:27 |
jtv | henninge: cleaning up the helpers is a possible next step, but the branch was big enough. :) | 07:28 |
henninge | Okay, so other users of the traits are not expected create helper classes, too? | 07:28 |
jtv | henninge: no, not at all | 07:28 |
jtv | As I explained yesterday: one class does it all, and the existence of an older helper class that I extracted them out of is merely a distraction in all this. | 07:29 |
jtv | Look at the actual TranslationSideTraits class: is that heavyweight? | 07:29 |
henninge | jtv: no, except ... | 07:30 |
henninge | ;) | 07:30 |
henninge | getCurrentMessage | 07:30 |
jtv | The implementation is a bit daft because of the transient mess with getImportedTranslationMessage and getCurrentTranslationMessage. I'd prefer to replace the "if" with separate methods. | 07:31 |
jtv | But that's all under the hood. | 07:32 |
henninge | jtv: which "if" ? | 07:34 |
jtv | henninge: inside getCurrentMessage… that's not what you meant? | 07:35 |
henninge | sorry, yes. | 07:35 |
henninge | jtv: Although I was wondering if a specific method like that belongs into the traits at all ... | 07:37 |
jtv | If we had all queries stormified and available from the interfaces, then no. But in the real world it's a primitive. | 07:37 |
henninge | jtv: what do you bean by "available from the interfaces"? | 07:38 |
jtv | The interfaces underneath wherever we need this. | 07:39 |
henninge | Sorry for being pita about this but I want to make sure I understand why I am on your side with this ... ;-) | 07:39 |
jtv | No worries. It's good. | 07:39 |
jtv | What I mean is, sometimes we'll need to ask for the current message for a given potmsgset, template & language on a given side. | 07:40 |
jtv | If we could just return a Storm object for the right condition, then getFlag(TranslationMessage) would probably do the trick. | 07:40 |
jtv | Of course we could also do that and go straight to Storm to ask for the current message, but that seems a bit messy. | 07:41 |
henninge | jtv: You lost me on the last sentence | 07:43 |
henninge | And you literally mean "getFlag(TranslationMessage)"? | 07:43 |
henninge | I mean, on the class. | 07:44 |
jtv | I mean: we could probably do without getCurrentMessage if we were willing to do something like Store.of(TranslationMessage).find(traits.getFlag(TranslationMessage)).one() | 07:44 |
jtv | Yes | 07:44 |
henninge | jtv: is there another class that will have the flags? | 07:44 |
jtv | Yes, there might be a ClassAlias in Storm. | 07:45 |
henninge | I'd like to see Store.of(TranslationMessage).find(traits.current_flag).one() | 07:45 |
henninge | Oh | 07:45 |
jtv | Well what you just said is actually a very good way to formulate it. | 07:45 |
lifeless | as long as its not one per-row-per-page :) | 07:46 |
jtv | *If* we only have the one class, of course | 07:46 |
henninge | jtv: I'd provide both. | 07:47 |
henninge | a "current_flag" attribute for most use cases | 07:47 |
henninge | and a "getCurrentFlag(cls)" for the alias case. | 07:47 |
jtv | lifeless: maybe you know this one... I just evaluated TranslationMessage.is_current_ubuntu and ubuntu_traits.getFlag(TranslationMessage). They both return the same PropertyColumn object. Yet a Storm query will work with the former and not with the latter. | 07:48 |
henninge | oh, it does not? | 07:48 |
lifeless | so the former is a class attribute | 07:48 |
jtv | Yes | 07:48 |
lifeless | is the latter perhaps returned a securityproxied object? | 07:48 |
jtv | I think the __repr__ would have told me… in both cases it says: | 07:49 |
jtv | <storm.properties.PropertyColumn object at 0xbcc7b3c> | 07:49 |
jtv | But there must be _something_ with proxies, because the error says: | 07:49 |
jtv | CompileError: Don't know how to compile type zope.security._proxy._Proxy of <storm.expr.Eq object at 0xc332fac> | 07:49 |
lifeless | ahha yes | 07:49 |
lifeless | :) | 07:49 |
lifeless | print dir(thing), and thing.__class__ | 07:50 |
jtv | Heh... if I removeSecurityProxy then the query does work. Madness reigns. | 07:50 |
henninge | jtv: no, it does not | 07:51 |
jtv | lifeless: the __class__ are the same for both | 07:51 |
lifeless | thats interesting | 07:51 |
henninge | it's because you regeistered TranslationSideTraitsSet as a securedutility. | 07:51 |
henninge | "does not" referred to madness reigning, btw. | 07:51 |
jtv | henninge: okay, but then why don't I see the proxy? | 07:51 |
jtv | Right, took me a while to figure that out :) | 07:52 |
henninge | jtv: that's waht proxies do. They pretend to be the real thing. | 07:52 |
jtv | Okay, but this is an incredibly effective pretense! | 07:52 |
jtv | At least, I had a memory of the proxies showing up when I printed objects in "make harness" | 07:53 |
jtv | But yes, dir() exposes the difference. | 07:53 |
henninge | jtv: another thing I wonder about it "other_side" | 07:55 |
jtv | henninge: would you prefer something like "other_side_traits"? | 07:56 |
jtv | Or would you prefer it to be a TranslationSide that you'd use to look up the traits? | 07:56 |
henninge | jtv: no, I don't wonder. ;) | 07:57 |
henninge | anymore | 07:57 |
jtv | oh ok :) | 07:57 |
henninge | jtv: but "other_side_traits" seems preferable. | 07:57 |
jtv | OK | 07:57 |
henninge | My wondering was about it not being set but I saw that it happens in TranslationSideTraitsSet.__init__. | 07:57 |
henninge | That's good. | 07:57 |
jtv | henninge: I renamed other_side and also removed MessageSideHelper.getFlag (because that code moved to the traits in its entirety) | 08:19 |
henninge | jtv: all the calls to "removeSecurityProxy" in your test - are they a result of abel's work? | 08:39 |
jtv | henninge: it's not unthinkable that they contributed, but the main thing is as in the cover letter: using Zope in tests that didn't use it before. | 08:39 |
jtv | Sorry: it's not unthinkable that *it* contributed. | 08:40 |
henninge | 653 external_template = self.factory.makePOTemplate() | 08:40 |
henninge | 654- external_template.productseries.product.official_rosetta = True | 08:40 |
henninge | 655+ product = external_template.productseries.product | 08:40 |
henninge | 656+ removeSecurityProxy(product).official_rosetta = True | 08:40 |
henninge | jtv: how is zope involved here that was no before? | 08:41 |
henninge | And I wonder why "official_rosetta" is not settable in the first place ... | 08:42 |
jtv | henninge: layer change | 08:42 |
henninge | Oh, I did not know that affected how the factory creates objects. | 08:42 |
jtv | AIUI it doesn't, directly, but it means no proxies. | 08:43 |
jtv | Correction again: running Zopelessly means no proxies. | 08:44 |
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henninge | jtv: why is "test_getFlag_and_setFlag" one test? | 09:49 |
jtv | henninge: because it tests consistency between the two, more than either one of them specifically. Not very imaginative, sorry. | 09:50 |
henninge | jtv: ok, I see it now. | 09:50 |
jtv | (There are two separate tests in the concrete test classes that tie the internal consistency of the traits to the reality of the two flags) | 09:50 |
* jtv tries DSL again… | 09:51 | |
jtv | Well that was disappointing. Still no DSL. Wonder if a bill got lost again. | 10:00 |
stub | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~stub/launchpad/cronscripts/+merge/31934 | 10:13 |
stub | adeuring: ^^ | 10:14 |
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adeuring | stub: sure; let me just finish a review for james_w | 10:14 |
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jtv | henninge: thanks! | 10:59 |
henninge | jtv: welcome | 10:59 |
henninge | you were gone to check DSL when I wanted to tell you. Is it working again now?? | 11:00 |
jtv | henninge: nope | 11:00 |
adeuring | stub: r=me | 11:08 |
stub | ta | 11:21 |
jtv | henninge: can't lend using edge… I'll try again. | 11:24 |
jml | james_w, I'll take a look at your no-more-sampledata-2 branch. | 12:23 |
jml | (next week, I'm going to do less coding stuff, promise) | 12:23 |
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bac | morning adeuring | 12:40 |
adeuring | hi bac! | 12:40 |
bac | adeuring: many takers today? | 12:41 |
adeuring | bac: a few. Could be worse ;) | 12:41 |
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bac | jml: can you do a db review if i don't get it done before stub goes EOD? | 12:52 |
james_w | thanks adeuring and jml | 13:09 |
jml | bac, sure. | 13:13 |
jml | james_w, done! | 13:29 |
james_w | jml: did you get bored? :-) | 13:32 |
jml | james_w, not so much bored as struck with a desire to come up with many ways of saying the same thing :) | 13:33 |
adeuring | james_w: r=me for another branch, again one minor nitpick ;) | 14:03 |
james_w | adeuring: thanks, though the last one wasn't so minor :-) | 14:03 |
james_w | adeuring: I thought the same thing about isinstance, but the test proved me wrong. Maybe something needs to be imported for the monkeypatch to happen? | 14:04 |
adeuring | james_w: interesting that you need to remove the proxy: IIRC zope.security.porxy or somesuch directly changes the built in isinstance function. | 14:06 |
adeuring | But anyway, if you must remove the proxy, then be it so. But perhaps gary_poster knows a bit more? | 14:06 |
gary_poster | no, isinstance is not modified | 14:07 |
james_w | jml said that you can "from zope.security.proxy import isinstance as zope_isinstance" | 14:07 |
gary_poster | it's not called that | 14:07 |
jml | gary_poster, we have code in Launchpad that does exactly that. | 14:08 |
gary_poster | at least I don't think so (and I use the one from zope.proxy) | 14:08 |
adeuring | gary_poster: thanks -- seems that I am somewhat confused... | 14:08 |
gary_poster | but that's the right idea | 14:08 |
gary_poster | ok, jml, fair enough. that's certainly the right idea, as I said. zope.proxy has the more general functions with which I am more familiar | 14:08 |
jml | gary_poster, more general functions sounds like a good idea :) | 14:09 |
gary_poster | :-) well, looks like my memory is just faulty. The general functions are there that work with the core proxy stuff, but there's not a direct isinstance equivalent. (Available functions are listed in eggs/zope.proxy-3.5.0-py2.6-linux-x86_64.egg/zope/proxy/interfaces.py fwiw) | 14:12 |
gary_poster | a function called "zope_isinstance" offends my naming sensibilities ;-) | 14:13 |
adeuring | so, importing from zope.security.proxy would be the roght way? | 14:13 |
gary_poster | yes, adeuring | 14:13 |
gary_poster | sorry for being confusing | 14:13 |
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james_w | adeuring: hello again, could I get an incremental review of https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~james-w/launchpad/soyuz-factory-improvements/+merge/31890 ? | 14:53 |
adeuring | james_w: sure | 14:53 |
james_w | oh, conflicts, I need to merge devel | 14:53 |
james_w | done | 15:05 |
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bac | jml: can you do a db review for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/db-bug-613442/+merge/31955 ? | 15:21 |
jml | bac, sure, after this call. | 15:22 |
bac | thx | 15:22 |
adeuring | james_w: again r=me. nice work! | 15:25 |
james_w | adeuring: thanks | 15:25 |
jml | bac, approved. | 15:45 |
bac | thanks jml | 15:45 |
bac | adeuring: may i get a code review for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/db-bug-613442/+merge/31955 ? | 15:58 |
adeuring | bac: sure | 15:58 |
bac | thanks | 15:58 |
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adeuring | bac: why didn't you add a column for bug tracking? | 16:17 |
adeuring | (and for code hosting, for projects) | 16:17 |
bac | adeuring: bug tracking and code hosting can be properly derived from other pillar data. | 16:18 |
bac | adeuring: it is better to have a derived attribute than a column in the db that may become out of sync | 16:18 |
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adeuring | bac: what about "bugs are tracked elsewhere"? | 16:19 |
bac | adeuring: that would be indicated by having an external bug tracker noted | 16:19 |
bac | adeuring: this email thread lays out much of the thinking, dense as it is: https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg03952.html | 16:20 |
adeuring | bac: Ah, right. And these is at present no need to indicate this in the comuted attribute? | 16:20 |
bac | adeuring: i don't understand your question. | 16:20 |
adeuring | sorry, my usual typing problems... | 16:20 |
adeuring | bac: shouldn't the value "bugs are tracked elsewhere" being returned by bug_tracking_usage? (for porjects which do that) | 16:21 |
adeuring | gah, that's done | 16:22 |
adeuring | sorry, I was reading the diff for distros... | 16:22 |
* adeuring should read the entire diff before asking pointless questions... | 16:23 | |
adeuring | bac: r=me | 16:26 |
bac | thanks abel | 16:27 |
EdwinGrubbs | jelmer_: do you have time to answer some of my questions on the branch you're reviewing? | 16:34 |
jelmer_ | EdwinGrubbs, sure | 16:42 |
jelmer_ | EdwinGrubbs: I don't see a followup from you after my last reply | 16:43 |
EdwinGrubbs | jelmer_: oh, sorry, I didn't see your reply before. | 16:43 |
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bac | jml: you approved the db review of my branch. what should i do about patch number? next sequential? how do i know there is no conflict? | 17:35 |
bac | jml: i assume stub has a Big Chief Tablet where he coordinates the numbering | 17:35 |
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jml | bac, I don't have answers to any of your questions, I'm afraid :( | 17:53 |
bac | jml: well i'll pick the next and cross my fingers. (after looking at the unlanded MPs first) | 17:54 |
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jml | bac, that seems like the best approach | 17:55 |
sinzui | bac: I have a branch that move the registration slot. | 17:55 |
bac | sinzui: ok | 17:56 |
bac | sinzui: are you going to get a UI review too? | 17:56 |
sinzui | I was hoping rockstar could look at the picture and say this is agreeable to him, me, and henninge | 18:00 |
* rockstar looks up | 18:00 | |
rockstar | sinzui, what picture? | 18:01 |
sinzui | rockstar, the picture listed in https://code.launchpad.net/~sinzui/launchpad/launchpad-header-1/+merge/31975 | 18:02 |
rockstar | sinzui, ui=rockstar | 18:04 |
rockstar | sinzui, I still hate that we feel that should go at the top of the page. | 18:04 |
sinzui | yes. Maybe I will take a week off and write an alt-css that allows launchpad to get that non-sense out of the way | 18:05 |
benji | speaking of, is there any way to remove the "Registered by" slot for a project? Every time I visit the page for my little project Manuel I'm slightly jarred by the fact that it says "Registered 2010-01-13 by Björn Tillenius" | 18:09 |
benji | (he registered it to work on some branches for Manuel before I used LP) | 18:09 |
bac | sinzui: r=bac | 18:13 |
sinzui | thanks bac. thanks rockstar | 18:13 |
bac | benji: no. why do you find it objectionable? it is a true statement. | 18:14 |
rockstar | benji, no, and that's why I think it should just go away. It can be misleading. | 18:14 |
rockstar | bac, it's a true statement, yes. But it's almost worthless to put right at the top. | 18:15 |
benji | bac: it's strange (or misleading as rockstar says); it's odd to place such an unimportant bit of information in such a prominant place | 18:15 |
* benji assigns rockstar as his spokesman on this topic. | 18:16 | |
rockstar | bac, it has some useful information sometimes, but it's not information that should go at the top. | 18:16 |
benji | I can only assume that it was done that way initially to reward people for registering projects in LP, but I think we're beyond that now. | 18:17 |
sinzui | I look at who registered a project, bug, question, and mirror every day. It is not important, but it is information users actually want to know | 18:17 |
rockstar | In most cases, the registrant is the same as the owner. In other cases, it's just misleading. In a few cases, you actually need to know it. Those people can go hunting on the page for it. | 18:17 |
sinzui | Not that you can so anything about someone who reports a bug that launchpad causes flatulence in donkeys | 18:18 |
benji | bug, question, and mirror make sense to me, but it's not really that interesting to know that I registered the Firefox project if I don't really have anything to do with the project itself | 18:18 |
* benji goes looking for high-profile projects that aren't yet represented in LP in a "Registered by" landgrab. | 18:19 | |
sinzui | If you are looking for missing upstream information, the registrant is one of the people you want to contact | 18:20 |
sinzui | Most projects are missing information about upstream services | 18:20 |
benji | oh, don't get me wrong, I think the information should be recorded and visible, but I don't see why regiterer should be more prominent than homepage, owner, driver, etc. | 18:22 |
bac | rockstar: i updated to PG8.4 so i could cleanly make new sample data. by the time i got ready to do it, there was a new version...made with 8.3. i give up | 18:23 |
rockstar | bac, you should blame on that and see who did that. | 18:24 |
bac | is it me, or is PG8.4 much slower for 'make schema'? | 18:26 |
sinzui | benji, I think we all agree. The heading was design by canonical's design team to address the need of projects and people to see their identity prominently as a means to encourage adoption | 18:26 |
* sinzui did not ask for permission to change the header | 18:26 | |
sinzui | benji, I disabled about 5000 projects that were not appropriate. Most land grabs last a few hours | 18:35 |
jelmer_ | sinzui: wow, 5000? That's quite a few. | 18:43 |
sinzui | I have these numbers because I started writing a summary of project review. What you need to know is that I temporarily exceeded your record for linking projects to packages | 18:48 |
jelmer_ | sinzui: ah, thanks | 19:00 |
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deryck | Hi, bac. I have an easy one-line change to versions.cfg for your review, if I may get in line. | 19:43 |
bac | sure | 19:44 |
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deryck | thanks, bac! The diff is large because I'm also re-enabling some reverted work. All that is new is the change to versions.cfg in the diff. | 19:44 |
deryck | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~deryck/launchpad/update-storm-17-add-back-dupe-changes/+merge/31983 | 19:44 |
bac | sinzui: your name in the queue was leftover, right. you have nothing outstanding for review? | 19:44 |
sinzui | right, but I will add it back in 30 minutes | 19:45 |
bac | deryck: one line or 1296 lines? | 19:45 |
bac | deryck: which one of those lines do you want reviewed? | 19:45 |
bac | should i just pick one? | 19:45 |
bac | i approve of line 157. it is poetry. r=bac | 19:46 |
benji | lol | 19:46 |
deryck | bac, the change at line 1293 of the diff is all that is new. I'm just being lazy and adding back previous work that was reverted as I update the version of Storm. | 19:47 |
deryck | heh | 19:47 |
deryck | bac, I noted the actual line in scrollback if you really didn't see. Line 1293. :-) | 19:49 |
bac | deryck: wow. ok, it looks fine given that explanation. | 19:49 |
deryck | bac, great, thanks. | 19:49 |
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sinzui | bac: do you have time for a cache fix: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~sinzui/launchpad/registry-cache-4/+merge/31998 | 21:07 |
bac | sinzui: sure | 21:07 |
sinzui | bac I see a bad comment. in the second test. I wait for you challenge to make it a sensible comment | 21:08 |
sinzui | bugger, I lost my bug id to | 21:11 |
bac | sinzui: so line 51 should be miss. is that what you're referring to? | 21:12 |
sinzui | yes | 21:12 |
bac | with that change it looks fine to me | 21:12 |
bac | r=festus | 21:12 |
sinzui | thanls | 21:13 |
bac | any gunsmoke fans in the house? | 21:13 |
sinzui | thanks bac | 21:13 |
benji | bac: I would have gotten the reference if you'd picked any other popular US series from the 70s; not into Gunsmoke | 21:23 |
* benji has a sudden desire to watch The Rockford Files. | 21:24 | |
bac | benji: "Who was Micah" for 20 points? | 21:40 |
benji | I think I need to phone a friend | 21:40 |
bac | no "Gunsmoke" or "The Rifleman"? | 21:42 |
bac | Hoss Cartwright? | 21:42 |
bac | Joe Friday? | 21:42 |
benji | not really into westerns | 21:43 |
benji | I'm down with Joe Friday; my son would vote for Reed and Malloy (Adam 12) | 21:43 |
bac | for some reason i preferred "Emergency!" | 21:44 |
benji | I tend to favor comedies from the 70s, most of the "action" series are pretty slow and linear by today's standards. | 21:49 |
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bryceh | benji, my wife is a Rockford Files fanatic | 23:09 |
bryceh | we found out that netflix has the full run of Rockford in their online instant view thingee, so she can watch it whenever she wants. | 23:11 |
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