[00:08] <ChogyDan> ZykoticK9: so what do you want to do?  The only thing that I can give hints on is to remove the package.  Since it is maverick, the package may just be broken atm.
[00:08] <ZykoticK9> ChogyDan, i think it's just broken right now.
[00:09] <ChogyDan> ZykoticK9: well, to remove, I would just delete the connman.postinst script, and then use whatever to remove the package
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> ChogyDan, thanks.  I'll try that out when i reboot into Maverick.
[00:10] <ChogyDan> gl
[00:30] <BUGabundo> I see white pillow in my short future .... nite everyone
[00:32] <almoxarife> I am thinking of upgrading just cause I enjoy the pain, how painful is it right now, loads of bugs or some?
[00:38] <Volkodav> not at all
[00:39] <Volkodav> anybody tried vlc with GPU acceleration? I am pretty sure it's just not working this thing - no drop on CPU usage whatsoever
[00:40] <almoxarife> cool, time to dive in then
[01:12] <wechat> so i saw the message that compiz-plugins-extra will be removed during upgrading to maverick And now desktop efects don't wanna turn on Where to find the solution?
[01:12] <wechat> !ping
[01:15] <Volkodav> wait till they fix I guess
[01:19] <wechat> nautilus-open-terminal - i want to change the words in right click menu Could I and where is the config file for the extension?
[01:20] <yofel> wechat: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra is broken currently, and might be for a while
[01:20] <wechat> ok dpkg -L I got it
[01:21] <wechat> yofel: you mean i DIDN'T do anything wrong?
[01:21] <yofel> no, dependencies are broken
[01:22] <yofel> bug 613340
[01:22] <wechat> yofel: by me ? can I on my own change them? I will follow the link
[01:23] <wechat> ty > yofel
[01:23] <yofel> wechat: not by you, compiz is 0.8.6 while the plugins are for 0.8.4, need to be updated
[01:31] <wechat> yofel: the latest question. Simply the are not the newest (0.8.6) version (they are not developed) of compiz-fusion-plugins-extra?
[01:32]  * wechat there are
[01:32] <yofel> no idea tbh. Point is that the package has the wrong version, regardless if they might work or not
[01:35] <wechat> it's ok ubuntu is growing gonna be alright
[01:39] <yofel> crimsun: ping, what would I file this against? I have a mute button on my thinkpad that has a led to indicate the state, now if I boot unmuted everything works as expected, but if I boot muted, then I get after login to KDE:
[01:40] <yofel> harware muted, software unmuted - pressing the button gives me: hardware unmuted, software muted - to get sound I first have to press the button to unmute the hardware and then go to the sound applet and unmute the now muted sowftware mixer
[01:54] <welinux> nautilus-open-terminal - i wanna change the words in right-click-menu in that package
[01:55]  * yofel -> bed
[03:40] <Volkodav> I added a new drive to the system and now I need to change hd2 to 3 in grub and root from sdc3 to sdd4 - I edit it on the fly in grub but I need to put it in permanently
[03:41] <Volkodav>  /boot/grub/grub.cfg once booted shows the correct settings
[04:19] <Jordan_U> Volkodav: Grub2 uses UUIDs and so should need no modification. I think there is more going on.
[04:39] <Volkodav> Jordan_U: more going on? what do you mean ?
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Volkodav: You should not need to change your grub.cfg when you add a new drive, so if you need to edit anything "on the fly" there is something else going on, like maybe you have an old grub installation that you're now booting.
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Volkodav: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[04:46] <Volkodav> ше шы ф туц штыефдд акщь ьфмукшсл
[04:46] <Volkodav> it is a new install though
[04:46] <Volkodav> let me try the script
[04:53] <Volkodav> http://pastie.org/1078874
[04:54] <Volkodav> I think I know what's up
[04:57] <Volkodav> I f I change in bios TO USE THE SDD  instead of sdb it should boot ok
[04:57] <Volkodav> right Jordan_U
[04:57] <Volkodav> ?
[05:03] <Volkodav> and I have grub on 2 drives too hmm
[05:19] <DanaG> ah, two drives, boot order? yeah, can cause major confusion.
[05:19] <DanaG> When I choose to boot from the "secondary" drive, it becomes hd0 in grub... yet is still sdb in kernel.
[05:28] <Volkodav> PITA
[05:30] <Jordan_U> DanaG: Most BIOSs make whatever drive you booted from the first one because window's bootloader used to ignore the value passed to it by the BIOS and just assume that the first drive was the drive it needed to read from. Now we're stuck with it (once the kernel starts the BIOS is out of the picture and the kernel does its own enumeration of devices).
[05:31] <DanaG> I wish HP's UEFI implementation weren't broken... then I'd use UEFI boot mode.
[05:31] <Jordan_U> DanaG: I don't think there is any implementation of UEFI that isn't broken :)
[05:31] <Volkodav> So what's a better solution here ?
[05:32] <DanaG> I also wish I knew somebody on HP's business-notebook group -- then I'd give suggestions.
[05:32] <DanaG> Like, the addition of rubber bumpers in certain places.
[05:32] <DanaG> Oh yeah:
[05:33] <DanaG> er, digging up bug link.
[05:35] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/612432
[05:40] <Jordan_U> DanaG: Sounds like it is solved by the recent newreloc work, which I expect will make it into maverick before release.
[05:41] <Jordan_U> DanaG: IIRC the problem is that on 64 bit systems the initramfs is sometimes being loaded at > 4 GIG even though the kernel is started in 32 bit mode and thus can't access it.
[05:43] <DanaG> Ah, perhaps you can comment on that, and I'll edit the description to say more precisely "newreloc"
[05:44] <DanaG> Oh, and earlycon doesn't seem to work with uefi.
[05:44] <DanaG> And grub-efi serial hangs.
[05:46] <DanaG> Oh, and my framebuffer claims to be at 0x0 if you try to use GraphicsOutputProtocol.... confuses Windows, as well.  Intel Wifi gives "unable to allocate resources" in Windows.
[05:46] <DanaG> Random single off-topic link: http://promotions.newegg.com/Sweepstakes/Teach/index.html?cm_sp=Homepage_lb-_-Sweepstakes/Teach-_-http%3a%2f%2fpromotions.newegg.com%2fSweepstakes%2fTeach%2f980x130.jpg
[05:46] <Volkodav> What's confusing here is that it says hd2 and sdc3 for root so in kernel eyes it is sdc so the BIOS should read from sda for this setup to work ?
[05:47] <DanaG> Better to use UUIDs, or at least labels.  I finally went around and renamed all my partitions to stop confusing myself:
[05:47] <DanaG> win7 (on ssd).  ssd-docs.  ssd-boot. ssd-root. hdd-docs.  hdd-boot. hdd-root.
[05:47] <Volkodav> I have them labeled
[05:49] <DanaG> Worst boot thing I've seen, in some Dell Precision workstation: boot menu had only one option for "sata hard drive".  Had to DISABLE port 0 drive to boot port 1 drive!
[05:53] <DanaG> Two "showstopper" bugs for me on Maverick: brightness control doesn't work, and it treats my middle button as a left button.
[05:53] <DanaG> So to press the middle button, I have to press... the middle button and the right button.
[05:56] <almoxarife> DanaG: brightness control works here
[05:56] <DanaG> hmm, for me, it stops working once I hit max or min.
[05:57] <almoxarife> DanaG: can't duplicate it here
[05:57] <SandGorgon> lol... did anyone look at Miguel de Icaza's proposal for a "non tribal" linux site ? http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Aug-05.html
[05:57] <DanaG> It happens for me both on my netbook and my fglrx laptop.
[05:58] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/HB3eeeXT
[06:00] <DanaG> executing /usr/sbin/gnome-power-backlight-helper --get-brightness retval: 0
[06:00] <DanaG> failed to set using xrandr, falling back to HAL
[06:00] <DanaG> Funny, how the heck can it "fail to set using xrandr" when it wasn't even TRYING to set using xrandr?
[06:02] <DanaG> And that "cache" is bogus, too... always says 100.
[06:06] <DanaG> I see... the "use xrandr" method silently fell back to the "helper" method.
[06:59] <DanaG> argh, stupid Realtek wifi card... doesn't work with native OR ndiswrapper!
[07:00] <DanaG> And ndiswrapper kernel panics on unload.
[08:03] <SwedeMike> hi, what's the odds that mdadm 3.1.3 that was just released, will be included in 10.10 ?
[08:04] <knittl> hi. g-p-m segfaults when starting
[08:05] <knittl> i couldn't find a bug on launchpad for it
[08:10] <IdleOne> report a bug :)
[08:11] <IdleOne> !info mdadm
[08:11] <SwedeMike> mdadm - v2.6.7.1 - 15th October 2008
[08:11] <knittl> IdleOne: i don't want to create dupes ;)
[08:12] <IdleOne> knittl: you said you didn't find a bug
[08:12] <knittl> http://paste2.org/p/940498
[09:50] <ior3k> anyone know what's up with the latest packages? glib failed to install, X doesn't start, network manager doesn't start...
[09:52] <ior3k> updated yesterday, everything was fine
[09:52] <ior3k> updated today, all hell broke loose
[09:53] <jibel> ior3k, see bug 614240
[09:54] <ior3k> jibel: thanks, saw that
[09:54] <ior3k> jibel: does that affect X, though?
[09:54] <ior3k> ah, I see it has more comments now
[09:54] <jibel> ior3k, it affects all the gtk programs on i386.
[09:54] <knittl> yousa
[09:55] <knittl> *** buffer overflow detected ***: gnome-terminal terminated
[09:55] <knittl> so restarting ain't a good idea right now :D
[09:55] <jibel> ior3k, the workaround is to downgrade to glib to 2.25.11-3ubuntu1
[09:57] <JoshuaL> no problems with amd64 :)
[09:58] <knittl> how do i do a downgrade with apt-get?
[09:59] <jibel> knittl, check first if you still have the previous packages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:00] <knittl> i guess so
[10:00] <knittl> libglib
[10:00] <knittl> jip
[10:03] <jibel> knittl, then downgrade with dpkg -i libglib2.0-0_2.25.11-3ubuntu1_i386.deb libglib2.0-bin_2.25.11-3ubuntu1_i386.deb libglib2.0-data_2.25.11-3ubuntu1_all.deb libglib2.0-dev_2.25.11-3ubuntu1_i386.deb libglib2.0-doc_2.25.11-3ubuntu1_all.deb
[10:04] <ior3k> no such luck for me
[10:06] <jibel> ior3k, try to downgrade with apt-get install libglib2.0-0=2.25.11-3ubuntu1
[10:07] <jibel> ior3k, if that doesn't work get the deb from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/ , they are still available on the mirror.
[10:07] <knittl> jibel: ok, thanks
[10:07] <knittl> jep, works again :)
[10:07] <ior3k> jibel: thanks
[10:15] <ior3k> jibel: it worked, thanks
[10:15] <jibel> ior3k, you're welcome
[11:08] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy. Is it time for ambitious end-users to start testing Meerkat yet?
[11:10] <vega> has there been any significant increase in boot speed in MM ? compared to lucid
[11:24] <om26er> vega, I dont see any faster boot in M
[11:25] <om26er> but might change once upstart(?) finish
[11:27] <vega> finish?
[11:27] <vish> lol , finish!
[11:34] <[4-tea-2]> Does Maverick come with a KDE 4.5 release candidate? (I recently pulled 4.4.92 from the kubuntu PPA and wonder if I will have to downgrade applications)
[11:36] <[4-tea-2]> Bueller?
[11:37] <[4-tea-2]> Anybody?
[11:37] <yofel> currently is has the 4.5 pre-release
[11:37] <[4-tea-2]> Excellent, tyvm
[11:38] <[4-tea-2]> I found a data-destroying bug in digiKam and I hope to get fixed in time if it's in MM, too.
[11:39] <[4-tea-2]> (It seems too late to fix it for the KDE release, at least it seems the digiKam developers are trying not to notice my bug report *g)
[11:39] <yofel> I didn't follow digkam much, maybe ask in #kubuntu-devel if it's known
[11:39] <[4-tea-2]> Good advice, I'll do that, thanks.
[12:09] <gnomefreak> anyone know how to disable "automaticlly remember current running application" from System->preferences->startup applications->options
[12:10] <gnomefreak> i hit the button not the checkbox
[12:41] <coz_> hey guys ...is the new font finished and available yet?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> nice to wake up to Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.25.12-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  403  Forbidden
[12:48] <gnomefreak> 5 mirrors give same thing
[12:56] <coz_> so is there a way to get the beta font for testing?  I apparenlty dont have permission to view the private ppa for it
[12:58] <gnomefreak> coz_: talk to the person/persons that run the PPA
[12:59]  * gnomefreak be back
[13:34] <timhelpplease> I have a problem with 10.10 apt-get update crahed and now it reboots to tty and when i run it again i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:34] <timhelpplease> anyone help?
[13:35] <timhelpplease> wrote it up here too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9684795#post9684795
[13:35] <repete> timhelpplease, try `dpkg -C`
[13:35] <repete> timhelpplease, that should tell you if any packages are broken (haven't installed properly)
[13:36] <timhelpplease> yes there are laods
[13:36] <timhelpplease> and libglib2.0-0 is only half configured
[13:37] <repete> timhelpplease, try `sudo dpkg --configure`
[13:37] <timhelpplease> ok two secs
[13:39] <timhelpplease> what am i configuring?
[13:40] <repete> timhelpplease, sorry run `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[13:40] <repete> timhelpplease, that should finish the installation for all the half installed updates
[13:41] <timhelpplease> thanks just running now
[13:41] <repete> timhelpplease, ok.  ping me if that is unsuccessful.
[13:42] <timhelpplease> processing was halted beacuse there were to many errors
[13:42] <timhelpplease> must be a dozen things that had errors
[13:43] <gnomefreak> it will not work. use --fix-missing so other apps install first
[13:43] <repete> timhelpplease, hmmm... you might have to use a Live CD (or USB) to rescue the system.
[13:44] <repete> timhelpplease, have you tried `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`?
[13:44] <timhelpplease> --fix-missing gave same error (1)
[13:44] <repete> timhelpplease, that might install any needed stuff as well as configure the broken stuff
[13:44] <timhelpplease> yes i have
[13:45] <timhelpplease> same error
[13:45] <timhelpplease> i have live disc yes
[13:45] <timhelpplease> shall i boot it>?
[13:45] <repete> thinking if that will help...
[13:46] <Dimmuxx> will libva be updated to 1.0.3 so that h264 acceleration on intel ironlake will work in maverick?
[13:46] <repete> timhelpplease, not sure that will help actually
[13:47] <repete> timhelpplease, can you try the `sudo dpkg --configure ` command but append individual package names?
[13:47] <timhelpplease> i didnt think could repair from boot disc
[13:47] <timhelpplease> which packages
[13:47] <repete> timhelpplease, well, you can, but it is usually needed when you cannot boot
[13:47] <timhelpplease> ok
[13:47] <repete> timhelpplease, start with libglib2.0
[13:48] <aliendude3500> Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble with my system, but because I know how to manually connect to the internet with dhclient, it's only a bit of an annoyance. My system has two volume control icons in the notification bar instead of just one, and I have no networking icon. Firefox is always stuck in "offline" mode, and even though I'm on a wired ethernet connection, Ubuntu doesn't even attempt to connect me to the interne
[13:48] <aliendude3500> t when it starts up, so everytime I get on my computer, I have to go into terminal, type sudo dhclient, open firefox, and put it in online mode (every time I open it, even though I have internet access at this point), just to browse the web. It's been like this for a while. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[13:49] <repete> aliendude3500, run `nm-applet` and that should allow you to connect to the Internet.  This will also tell Firefox you are on the Internet.
[13:49] <repete> aliendude3500, start with that and see if it helps
[13:50] <aliendude3500> repete: That's just about the same thing as running dhclient, but it's not an ideal solution, since it's on a session by session basis...
[13:50] <aliendude3500> just ran that -- says "Networking Disabled".
[13:50] <aliendude3500> I'm on the computer that has the issue right now. Networking obviously works.
[13:51] <timhelpplease> i get no package named libglib2.0 is installed, cannot configure
[13:51] <repete> aliendude3500, right click on the network applet and see if you can re-enable networking
[13:52] <repete> timhelpplease, might be libglib2.0-0
[13:52] <repete> you have to be annoyingly accurate
[13:53] <timhelpplease> yep gave errors status 134
[13:54] <aliendude3500> repete: ah, that seems to have worked.
[13:54] <aliendude3500> Also, I still have two volume sliders, one of which is _always_ muted, even though I'm playing sound just fine now...
[13:55] <repete> aliendude3500, Are you running Desktop or Netbook Edition?
[13:55] <aliendude3500> At first I thought it might be because I'm on 5.1 surround sound, but my rear channels and subwoofer work fine...
[13:55] <aliendude3500> Desktop edition
[13:57] <repete> aliendude3500, hmmm... that usually happens if 1) you have just done an update and the gnome volume applet is running twice or 2) you are using both sys tray and the sound indicator.
[13:57] <repete> aliendude3500, 1 can be solved by just rebooting and for 2 you will have to remove one or the other
[13:57] <repete> timhelpplease, any luck?
[13:57] <timhelpplease> no
[13:57] <timhelpplease> yep gave errors status 134
[13:58] <timhelpplease> gave errors status 134
[13:58] <repete> timhelpplease, \o/
[13:58] <repete> timhelpplease, hurray for arcane errors
[13:58] <timhelpplease> lol
[13:58] <aliendude3500> I'll see if it disappears when I reboot
[13:59] <aliendude3500> both are in the same applet
[13:59] <aliendude3500> there's only one mail icon
[13:59] <timhelpplease> can i just reinstall all packages from disc?
[14:00] <repete> aliendude3500, the mail icon (messaging indicator) is a special icon that only lives in one applet.  Sound indicator is a new applet that replaces the gnome-volume-applet from the sys tray.
[14:01] <repete> timhelpplease, tough one...
[14:01] <timhelpplease> yeah
[14:01] <timhelpplease> I have a feeling that i should have prob stayed at 10.04 for my work pc
[14:01] <timhelpplease> lol
[14:02] <repete> timhelpplease, yea, though things are fairly stable by this stage it can be rather thorny... I recommend deja-dup for this reason. :-)
[14:03] <repete> timhelpplease, you can try re-booting with the live CD and I'll send you a link with instructions on recovering you system.
[14:03] <repete> timhelpplease, otherwise, I'm afraid you may need to re-install :-/
[14:03] <timhelpplease> yeah ill dig out a disc
[14:03] <timhelpplease> does need to be a 10.10 disc?
[14:04] <timhelpplease> and yes backup would have been a good idea
[14:06] <timhelpplease> ok dsic in could i please have that uel
[14:07] <timhelpplease> url even
[14:10] <repete> timhelpplease, I can't find the one I wanted, but try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[14:11] <timhelpplease> ok cheers ill try
[14:11] <repete> timhelpplease, np.  If you have an external drive I recommend you backup your home directory while in the live environment.  That way you can re-install if you need to.
[14:25] <yofel> timhelpplease: bug 614240 ?
[14:26] <jwatt2> I'm using update-manager to try to update from 10.04 to 10.10, but I'm getting this error:
[14:26] <jwatt2> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.25.12-1ubuntu1_i386.deb 403  Forbidden
[14:27] <[4-tea-2]> I bet it's already well known that fglrx doesn't work any longer, right?
[14:27] <jpds> jwatt2: Blacklisted package (see: https://launchpad.net/bugs/614240).
[14:27] <yofel> Pici: worth putting in the topic?
[14:27] <jwatt2> jpds: if it's blacklisted, it seems weird that the update manager is trying to use it
[14:28] <Pici> yofel: I'm sure there are other ops that can take care of that ;)
[14:28] <jpds> jwatt2: No.
[14:28] <jwatt2> jpds: thanks for the info though
[14:28] <yofel> jpds: a thx ;)
[14:28] <yofel> Pici: sry ^^
[14:28] <Pici> yofel: Its fine. I was watching the channel anyway.
[14:28] <jpds> jwatt2: APT will always try to get the latest version of a package, unforatunatly it's a broken one in this case.
[14:29] <yofel> jwatt2: it's still in the package list so apt thinks it's available, only the binary was locked on the server
[14:29] <jpds> jwatt2: And to make sure that your system is still bootable, steps were taken to prevent the package from being downloadable.
[14:31] <jwatt2> that make good sense
[14:31] <jwatt2> shame APT doesn't figure out or give an option to choose a previous version in that case
[14:32] <jwatt2> is there anything I can I do to continue with installing a 10.10 alpha for the time being?
[14:32] <jpds> jwatt2: When a package is updated, the previous version is removed from the package listings.
[14:33] <jwatt2> jpds: sure, I'm just saying in passing that maybe the system could be changed to be smarter about these things
[14:33] <yofel> jwatt2: just wait a bit, there was an upload to revert the package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/glib2.0/2.25.12.is.2.25.11-0ubuntu1
[14:33] <jwatt2> I'm new to ubuntu and linux, so not familiar with the system just yet though
[14:34] <jwatt2> yofel: cool - how long would you guess "a bit" is?
[14:34] <Pici> 1/8 of a byte.
[14:34] <jwatt2> har har ;)
[14:34] <jpds> jwatt2: gb.archive will update in ~20 minutes.
[14:34] <jwatt2> great, thanks!
[14:38] <timhelpplease> no fail
[14:38] <timhelpplease> reinstall it is
[14:39] <timhelpplease> thanks though repete
[14:39] <repete> timhelpplease, sorry I couldn't help more :-/
[14:39]  * repete hands timhelpplease a beer
[14:40] <timhelpplease> its ok things happen
[14:40] <timhelpplease> so where in the world are you anyway?
[14:44] <jpds> jwatt2: Can you try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[14:44] <jpds> jwatt2: The fixed package should be there now...
[14:54] <hifi> umm, quick steps to get aptitude working again?
[14:54] <hifi> dpkg install the newer binary?
[15:06] <jwatt2> jpds: using "pachage-manager -d" to get 10.10 now seems to be working
[15:06] <jwatt2> at least it's now past the download stage and has begun the install stage :)
[15:09] <sebsebseb> Hi
[15:14] <wechat> http://itmages.ru/image/preview/48048/76f91871 all day crashes Can I fix them or to have a patient because of non-stable version?
[15:46] <wechat> !зштп
[15:46] <wechat> !ping
[15:53] <yofel> wechat: erm what crashes in what way? (I can't read cyrillic :/)
[15:56] <wechat> yofel: simply programs in  ubuntu after yesterday began to crash (even Screenshot Tool) some times -- It probably cases when i'm closing the apps. It's not annoying but Is it my mistake or it's just not so ideal in maverick for now?
[15:57] <yofel> wechat: dunno, could be related to the glib mess currently
[15:57] <yofel> try to update and if it isn't fixed by today evening, file the crashes
[16:00] <wechat> yofel: coz i wanna understand the situation -- where to wait to be fixed and where to read man's Ok let the developers do their work -- not a pitty that i had upgraded anyway
[16:01] <wechat> yofel: ty for brinning some light to the situation
[16:06] <wechat> yofel: what do you mean "file the crashes"? launchpad ? i think it's not a big problem in *developing* version
[16:09] <atrus> knows issue with gnome-session depending on a version of gnome-session-bin that's not available? can't log into my gui any more :)
[16:12] <jconnolly> anyone test-drive ubuntu-netbook alpha3 on VirtualBox yet?
[16:12] <jconnolly> i don't get a menu for grub2, just skips into booting default.  anyone know how to force a menu?
[16:12] <Pici> Hold down shift?
[16:12] <jconnolly> duh
[16:12]  * jconnolly tries
[16:13] <jconnolly> and voila
[16:13] <jconnolly> thx
[16:13] <Pici> No problem.
[16:26] <yofel> wechat: well, generally no, but we maverick users are supposed to file bug reports when something goes wrong, if you need help with that go to #ubuntu-bugs - btw, if you could somehow get me an english error message I might be able to tell you more :/
[16:28] <aliendude3500> My system seems to crawl to a halt when there is almost no memory left, and I am doing several tasks at once. I have a fairly powerful CPU, and 2 gigs of ram, is there anything I can do to improve my performance?
[16:29] <wechat> yofel: ok. all right and some problems with sound from mpg123 - but I believe I understand you about glib (?) - everything is clear. There a lot of other problems not my Don't worry
[16:29] <aliendude3500> It may be relevant that I don't have a swap file, as writing to my RAM is much faster than writing to my hard disk
[16:31] <yofel> aliendude3500: actually I think I experience the same a while ago (no swap either). I had iotop open as I was debugging something else and IIRC *many* applications suddenly started reading from disk as I got close to out of memory
[16:31] <yofel> didn't investigate much further yet
[16:31] <yofel> (and my system came to a grinding halt so that I could barely move the mouse and had to use sysrq+k to do something again
[16:31] <yofel> )
[16:36] <atrus> okay, this may be a silly question... where is nm-applet under maverick? i can't seem to find any of my notification icons... nm-applet, xchat-gnome, and a few others don't seem to support the indicator yet...
[16:37] <JoshuaL> atrus, what happens if yuo start nm-applet from the terminal?
[16:38] <JoshuaL> i believe there was a bug where it would be only 1px in certain cases.
[16:42] <atrus> JoshuaL: no errors, but it doesn't seem to display anything.
[16:43] <atrus> but the other application i know uses the systray isn't showing up etither.
[16:43] <aliendude3500> yofel: I had to do the same thing -- I frequently end up using SysRq + K to unfreeze my system, which is a pain, as I mainly use my system for software development in Java, and NetBeans is a _huge_ resource hog, but Eclipse is a pain to use, and it's not easy to set-up.
[16:44] <jconnolly> anyone successfully boot into the netbook x86 alpha3 image?
[16:44] <atrus> what else uses the notification area, that I could try to confirm?
[16:44] <kkojiband> i want to develop gcc 4.5 plugin in maverick. i already installed gcc-4.5 and gcc-4.5-plugin-dev. but i can't find header files that are used for compiling my plugin source code
[16:44] <JoshuaL> atrus, transmission (after enable it in settings)
[16:45] <atrus> JoshuaL: no, that goes in the indicator-applet.
[16:45] <JoshuaL> ohw
[16:45] <JoshuaL> nvm me then :)
[16:45] <jconnolly> i get some nasties upon gnome-desktop start: http://pastebin.com/zVN6WfNc
[16:45] <jconnolly> polkit broken maybe?
[16:46] <om26er> did anyone tried alpha3 with Wubi?
[16:51] <atrus> okay, damn. eggcups, xchat-gnome, nm-applet, mail-notification.... nothing's showing up in the notification area any more.
[16:52] <atrus> i know there was talk about the notification area being deprecated... is this by design?
[16:53] <wechat> jconnolly: i was said that there are some problems with glib for now Maybe because of that
[17:01] <xaba> there is indeed a serious issue affecting glib2
[17:02] <xaba> a workaround is to revert to glib2.0-0_2.25
[17:02] <wechat> thnx | xaba
[17:03] <xaba> wechat: you're welcome
[17:03] <wechat> hope it will be solved soon
[17:04] <xaba> here is the wget: wget mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.25.11-3ubuntu1_i386.deb mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-data_2.25.11-3ubuntu1_all.deb
[17:04] <wechat> I find new style of volume control in da mix wuth Rhythmbox buttons
[17:04] <xaba> and of course sudo dpkg -i libglib2.0-0_2.25.11-3ubuntu1_i386.deb b libglib2.0-data_2.25.11-3ubuntu1_all.deb
[17:05] <wechat> xaba: well, I need to install gli2 deb?
[17:05] <atrus> hrm. notification area came back when i moved it to a horiz. panel, then added something to it. weird.
[17:05] <xaba> wechat: well reverting back
[17:06] <wechat> xaba: quick solution :) just dpkg -i OR remove the previous package before installation?
[17:07]  * wechat privious
[17:07] <xaba> it might be needed to do an "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in case you had an incomplete upgrade
[17:07]  * wechat privious
[17:07] <xaba> wechat: dpkg -i should be enough
[17:08]  * wechat previous
[17:09] <wechat> good &&  thanx for the answering
[17:12] <xaba> and of course it is a good idea to refrain from upgrading glib2 until they manage to sort the mess
[17:13] <xaba> fyi bug # is 614240
[17:13] <xaba> wechat: np
[17:24] <yofel> glib should be fine by now on most mirrors, at least as long as you get version 2.25.12.is.2.25.11-0ubuntu1
[18:59] <JoshuaL> empathy all of the sudden does not remember the settings I have made :o
[19:14] <jwatt> does anyone know if the extra information in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/607643 makes the issue more or less likely to be a problem with plymouth?
[19:15] <mikeconcepts> wondering if the free level of ubuntu one permits sync of firefox bookmarks once the associated plugin is installed
[19:15] <Pici> mikeconcepts: #ubuntuone would be a better place to ask that.
[19:16] <mikeconcepts> Pici: thanks
[19:17] <jwatt> or does anyone know how I might bypass the problem with plymouth (it that's where the problem lies) and manage to boot my boot 10.10 a3 install?
[19:19] <almoxarife> jwatt: I can't recommend removing plymouth, but, I did and have not missed a thing
[19:23] <Volkodav> http://pastie.org/1080101 how do I fix the grub since I have to edit hd2 to hd3 and sdc3 to sdd3 on the fly and it boots should I install it to sda and uninstall the other 2 or just leave them there ?
[19:24] <jwatt> almoxarife: I've no idea how to remove plymouth - I'm new to linux
[19:24] <jwatt> any pointers?
[19:25] <jwatt> ah, nm
[19:25] <almoxarife> jwatt: look at synaptic , its equiv to control panel program/add-remove
[19:25] <jwatt> there seem to be some google results for that
[19:25] <jwatt> ok, thank you
[19:26] <jwatt> almoxarife: although that sounds like I need to be able to boot, and right now I can't get past plymouth
[19:29] <almoxarife> jwatt: the second boot option takes you to a prompt, from there you may be able to remove plymouth, I don't know that the issue is plymouth though, and you will have to use the terminal method of removing/adding which is apt-get
[20:01] <natesm> I have just installed maverick a3 and my username does not appear in gdm (no usernames appear), but  my user/pw works fine, is there a way to enable username/password box like it used to be? can't  find it in gconf and I have no idea where ubuntu hides gdm.conf
[20:06] <natesm> oh, got it, didn't stick with gconf-editor for some reason but gconftool-2 worked fne
[21:54] <shadow> Yeah! They made That The Application Center with really big screenshots! Theye're real guys!
[23:05] <Volkodav> where did they move Shared folders ?
[23:09] <faheyn> anyone know where i can get a working vlc for 10.10
[23:09] <BUGabundo> what the......
[23:09] <BUGabundo> I need sudo to change bright ?
[23:13] <Volkodav> faheyn: just install it from repos
[23:13] <Jordan_U> faheyn: What about vlc from the main repositories isn't working for you?
[23:28] <faheyn> libmpcdec3 is missing from dependencies system has libmpcdec6 instead
[23:36] <Volkodav> faheyn: that has been fixed - either wait it change the mirroe
[23:36] <Volkodav> mirror
[23:36] <Volkodav> or change* looks like your mirror is behind that's all
[23:39] <jpds> faheyn: Which mirror are you using?
[23:40] <faheyn> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-updates main restricted
[23:41] <BUGabundo> anyone know who I can talk to, about avidemux?
[23:41] <BUGabundo> (or maybe gstreamer)
[23:42] <BUGabundo> recoding video to change just audio, is putting it out of sync
[23:44] <jpds> faheyn: You know you'd probably get better speeds from ie.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[23:44] <faheyn> move to main one to ensure I was getting latest updates as ie mirror was taking its time updating
[23:44] <jpds> Heh.
[23:45] <jpds> But you'd be hammering the machines which the mirrors world-wide are trying to sync from.
[23:47] <faheyn> valid point moving back to local mirrors
[23:47] <BUGabundo> or do it like I do
[23:47] <BUGabundo> till the day jpds kills me
[23:47] <BUGabundo> and use *3* set of server
[23:48] <BUGabundo> two local and main
[23:48] <Daekdroom> BUGabundo, putting up duplicates in sources.list?
[23:48] <BUGabundo> triples
[23:48] <Daekdroom> yeah, that's what I meant
[23:49]  * jpds ✁ BUGabundo 
[23:49]  * BUGabundo bleeds
[23:49] <jpds> BUGabundo: You know having: "deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt lucid main restricted universe multiverse" in your sources.list will do the same thing?
[23:50] <BUGabundo> if that wasn't suppose to work, it wouldn't work :p
[23:50] <BUGabundo> jpds: no...what does that do ?
[23:50] <BUGabundo> lucid??
[23:50] <jpds> Whatever.
[23:50] <jpds> BUGabundo: It uses GeoIP to redirect people to mirrors in their country.
[23:50] <BUGabundo> haah that has even MORE then me .P
[23:50] <jpds> Still in testing phase, but works.
[23:51] <jpds> BUGabundo: It only uses one at a time
[23:51] <BUGabundo> I can add that
[23:51] <BUGabundo> let me sed it
[23:51] <BUGabundo> works with maveric?
[23:51] <jpds> Yes.
[23:51] <jpds> Support for it was added in lucid.
[23:52] <BUGabundo> $ pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/474274/
[23:52] <jpds> BUGabundo: Yeah; now: sudo apt-get -o Debug::Acquire::mirror=true update
[23:53]  * BUGabundo follows blindly
[23:54] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/474276/
[23:55] <jpds> So it worked.
[23:55] <BUGabundo> yes
[23:55] <BUGabundo> there should be PPA mirrors :(
[23:55] <jpds> Hahahaha, no.
[23:55] <BUGabundo> can't I bride you to push that ?
[23:57] <jpds> BUGabundo: It's hard enough trying to manage Ubuntu mirrors.