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GrueMastermpoirier: ping - I updated bug 591941 with my own test results.  Summary:  fail.00:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 591941 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "SDHC card not recognized (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59194100:06
mpoirierGrueMaster: how many partition do you have on your SD card ?00:07
GrueMaster2.  Same as our pre-installed images.00:07
mpoirierweird - 'cause that error is not caused by the misbehaving card.00:08
GrueMasterOne thing I noticed is that the card I have been running Lucid on (same card I have used for this test in the past) indicates that the partitions are not on cylinder boundaries.  I am backing up the card and will reformat/recopy the data back & retest.00:10
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lagMorning Ogra07:55
lagDoes anyone still see bug 605488 on the Panda?08:04
ubot2Launchpad bug 605488 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "BUG: scheduling while atomic: mmcqd/46/0x00000002 (affects: 1) (heat: 177)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60548808:04
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zygahello08:14
* zyga starts to hate django :P08:14
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zyga_why_ oh _why_ didn't the authors provide a _standard_ and _supported_ RPC system :-(08:15
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hrwmogning08:25
kblintoo easy?08:42
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lagogra: ping10:24
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ogralag, i havent seen bug 605488 recently, but iirc it never showed up immediately10:33
ubot2Launchpad bug 605488 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "BUG: scheduling while atomic: mmcqd/46/0x00000002 (affects: 1) (heat: 177)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60548810:33
cooloneyogra, lag, me either10:34
lagogra: You ever seen this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/473947/10:34
lag--^ On XM10:35
ogralag, yeah, could be10:35
cooloneylag: i never saw that. could you try the latest upload.10:35
cooloneyoh, XM10:35
ogralag, that might be the memory bug in the XM10:35
ogralag, iirc rcn-ee has workaround patches for u-boot and the kernel somewhere10:36
ograuntil the final HW comes out10:36
ograi planned to pull the u-boot side of them into the next upload10:37
ograi dont exactly know how the memory bug manifests so i'm only guessing10:38
lagcooloney: Do you have XM?10:39
lagogra: Do you know when the new HW comes out?10:39
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ogralag, once all bugs are fixed :) no idea10:39
ogralag, #beagle might be of help10:40
cooloneylag: no10:46
cooloneylag: i just have beagle C3 and panda10:46
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rcn-eehey lag, yeap those are on my list. ;)12:42
dcordes_hi12:42
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lagrcn-ee: List?12:54
rcn-eebasicly every error on xm's boot.. say does your XM have Micron 512?12:57
rcn-eeNumonyx is the other possibility (working)..12:59
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rcn-eelag, if your's is a 512 model, make sure your x-load has this patch http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=b4c5ef7e0e06890b1369bfbd5c767820024adb21  (r15 from rcn-ee.net)13:05
lagrcn-ee: What's the easiest way to find out?13:10
rcn-eethere really isn't a good way.. no 'version' bumps, only way I know is the "rX" value angstrom auto addes to the file name..13:11
lagAnd what's the easiest way to find out if I have a Micron or Numonyx?13:12
rcn-eeconsidering Koen did the tweak 9 days ago... it might have been too quick specially with alpha 3..13:12
ogra_cmpcright, our x-loader doesnt have it yet13:13
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rcn-eeI'm hoping Numonyx sticks their logo on the memory module.. Micron should have a weird "M", i know Elpida sticks their name on it..13:13
lagYeah, I have an M with a circle round it13:14
rcn-eeis it 512?13:14
rcn-eelooks back at pastbin..13:14
ogra_cmpcare there non-512 ones ?13:14
lagHang on13:14
ogra_cmpcit is13:14
ogra_cmpcall the ones we have are 51213:14
ogra_cmpcno need to check13:15
ogra_cmpcthough i'm surprised there are others13:15
rcn-eeyeap yours is like mine...  the Micron memory has been dropped till Micron figures why they dont' work properly, some boards work fine, some fail weirdly..13:15
lagSo will that patch help me?13:16
ogra_cmpcnope13:16
rcn-eeit'll only help the production Numonyx ones coming out in a week or two..13:17
ogra_cmpci might have one (not near it atm)13:17
ogra_cmpclag, you still got the same board you always had ?13:17
ogra_cmpcor was yours replaced too ?13:18
lagNot yet13:18
rcn-eethey were weird, according to gerald, some of the micron ones were fine (passed testing) but others had to be de-soldered and replaced, half yields..13:18
lagI think I'm just going to have to leave it until I get new HW13:18
ogra_cmpcwell, the mmc error isnt memory induced, is it ?13:19
rcn-eemyself, i'm just taking care of bugs i can.. cause as soon as i do an "aptitude update" or "update-initframs" my memory corrupts and takes the board down..13:20
rcn-eenope it isn't.. it seems config related, my 2.6.35+lots of patches custom config doesn't do it.. but my 2.6.35+xm does hit the error.. so more config testing this morning..13:21
ogra_cmpcyeah, i saw the lots of bugmail :)13:21
rcn-eei'm kinda supprised about the Bx/Cx hitting it too now.. that one should be solid..13:21
ogra_cmpcprobably its two different bugs13:22
* cwillu_at_work perks up13:22
ogra_cmpci at least have seen two issues i think, one is the -110 error, with the other one the card is found but readonly13:23
rcn-eespecially from atleast cwillu_at_work ;).. he's tested every card known to man..13:23
cwillu_at_workwell, I've tested c3 and c4 :p13:23
cwillu_at_worka dozen or so13:23
ogra_cmpcusing mainline kernels ?13:23
cwillu_at_workno, rcn13:23
ogra_cmpcright13:24
cwillu_at_workclose enough :p13:24
rcn-eeyeah the 'ro' is to parts, the xm the wp bit.. the bx/cx is a weird regression over possibly a broken implementation.. http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=ed8303fc111e58530e22bd29b0d7e08dced75999 (bisected..)13:25
rcn-eeif you revert that commit.. the 'ro' issue doesn't happen with bx/cx... But if you play with the wp slot on any SD card it's not even detected, which leads to the gpio mux on the wp line doesn't work..13:26
rcn-eeogra_cmpc, here's my 'ro' bx testing 2.6.34/2.6.35 SD card wp handle testing: http://pastebin.com/Hx08KR5G13:30
lagogra: What's meant to be in boot.scr in the new daily image?14:15
ogra_cmpclag, the file is in cleartext stored in /boot/boot.script14:30
ogra_cmpcin the rootfs14:30
lagWhat's the one in boot all about?14:32
lagI mean before first boot14:33
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ograthe one in /boot is the one the user uses to make changes14:54
ogralike /boot/grub/menu.lst14:54
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hrwuser usually tweak /etc/default/grub15:00
hrwlcuk: hi here15:00
lcukheya :)15:01
lagogra: The one in boot is full of 0x150 zeros!15:03
ogralag, i'll take a look after the call15:04
lagogra: Can't you multitask ;)15:04
ograno, i'm no girl :P15:05
lagReally? My mistake15:05
lagMust be the hair :)15:05
ograi might slowly grow big enough to wear a bra though ... working from home changes you ;)15:06
lag:)15:06
ografun :)15:10
ograhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-August/031073.html15:10
hrwogra: buy nice one ;d15:10
ograhrw, i'D never buy ugly underwear :)15:10
ogralag, my boot.scr looks proper (if i ignore the uboot header)15:29
lagOkay15:30
lagI'll re-dd15:30
lagProbably a dd error15:30
ograhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/474071/15:30
lagnp15:30
ogra(thats omap3)15:30
ograpanda looks a bit different15:30
lagcat your boot.scr from the new Panda image15:32
ograi need to dd that first15:32
ogralag, http://paste.ubuntu.com/474075/15:40
ograndec, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/maverick/alpha-3/15:40
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ograasac, !15:42
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asacogra: !15:42
asacwhat can i do?15:42
ograsee #arm15:43
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rcn-ee_lptmpoirier, ping.. ;)19:39
mpoirierrcn-ee_lpt: hello !19:42
rcn-ee_lpthow's it going mpoirier any news in the deep depths of CONFIG_SOUND.. ;)19:43
mpoirierI also get the same result: CONFIG_SND_OMAP_SOC seems to be the culprit !19:43
mpoirierhow it related to sdhc card is a mystery.19:44
mpoirierI am currently rebuilding, just to make sure all the hours spend looking at config files havent' damaged my brain.19:44
zumbihrw|gone: do you mind to point me to your source packages?19:44
rcn-ee_lptno idea either, other then the possible SPI based sound card? or maybe we are getting hte same clocks?19:44
mpoirierremember that CONFIG_CPU_IDLE|FREQ are also curing the issue/19:45
mpoirierclock is definitively an option.19:45
mpoiriersound is going to sleep, the clock is killed...19:45
mpoirierand the sdhc card dies.19:46
rcn-ee_lptwhich if it just happens to be the same 'clock' on the xm.. (we get more clock sources with the dm37xx, some are still not being taken care off..)19:46
loolzumbi: It's probably late for hrw19:46
mpoirierdo you know for sure that sdhc and sound are on the same clock ?19:47
zumbilool: where are their sources? :)19:47
zumbis,their,his19:47
rcn-ee_lptno, i'm actually assuming... based on what seems like a direct link..19:48
mpoirierindeed - I was looking for a quick break.19:48
rcn-ee_lptdo you guys have better contacts at ti? maybe the dm37xx clock tree would give some hints.. (i'm thinking they inserted a new clock between to existing ones?)19:49
mpoiriernow that the problem seem to have been cornered, looking at code is the next step19:49
mpoirieryes, we have an open door to TI.19:49
mpoirierin a couple of sentence, what is hte dm37xx you're referring to ?19:50
rcn-ee_lptoh, that's what the xm's chip will be called...19:50
rcn-ee_lptdm replaces omap... (for this model)19:50
mpoirieryou mean the XM has a dm rather than omap ?19:51
rcn-ee_lptblaim it on marketing... the omap is now 'dm'....19:52
mpoirierok, but on your XM, do you have an omap3530 ?19:52
rcn-ee_lptthe omap3530 is only on the Bx/Cx.. the xm gets the improved omap3630 which then got tweaked/tuned and renamed into dm37xx19:53
mpoirierha. I get it thanks for the clarification.19:53
mpoirierseems like the clocks are the same though since the problem occur on both.19:54
rcn-ee_lptno problem.. it's a crazy nightmare... ;)19:54
mpoirierok, next I'll poke my TI contact and put them on the case.19:54
rcn-ee_lptcool, we had another user ask today, and they keep pointing to use the am3715 doc's.. so hopefully you guys have more push. ;)19:55
mpoirierI also have access to the original people who wrote the driver.19:55
mpoirierthey are in india.19:55
mpoirierI'll send them an email with our little findings.19:55
rcn-ee_lptit'll be interesting... do you think there's much point to retrying on 2.6.34 to see if maybe we can maybe bisect? i wouldn't go lower then that for the xm..19:58
mpoirieras far as I can tell, the problem started with 2.6.34, nope, no point going lower19:59
mpoirierbisect is also something to consider.19:59
mpoirierbut we still don't know that to look for.19:59
mpoirierwe have a better idea but...20:00
mpoirierthere would be a lot of bisects.20:00
rcn-ee_lpt4 minutes per build, 30 seconds to copy, 30 to boot..  i've done worse bisecting on a beagle (6hrs between..)20:01
rcn-ee_lpt;)20:01
lag_rcn-ee: mpoirier: Good work! Keep it up20:03
lag_;20:03
lag_;)20:03
mpoirierlag: you're supposed to be in a bar by this time20:04
lag_mpoirier: Meh!20:04
loolzumbi: I don't know20:04
lag_I'm working on something for myself (Bluetooth)20:04
rcn-ee_lptwhat, you guys don't drink and code?20:05
mpoirierlag: do you at least have a beer next to you ?20:05
lag_I'm 3/4 bottle of wine down ;)20:05
mpoirierfabulous !20:06
mpoirierrcn-ee_lpt: i'll checkout 2.6.34-rc1 to rc7 and try to isolate where the problem was introduced.20:06
mpoirierfrom there I'20:07
mpoirierI'll start a bisect.20:07
rcn-ee_lpti got my machine going too.. just gota tweak the one patch for 2.6.34..20:07
rsavoyercn-ee: hey, did you see that error log I pasted last night ?20:10
rcn-ee_lptyeah rsavoye although it was on my other machine..20:11
rsavoyeok. hope it was useful20:11
rcn-eeyeah... http://paste.ubuntu.com/473807/  i've been fighting that one too on my normal beagles..  plenty of ram, and swap.. but it starts oom'ing..20:14
rsavoyeI tried using -O0 tp reduce stress, but no such luck20:14
rsavoyeafter a few dozen of those stack dumps, my XM often hangs completely20:15
rcn-ee_lptyeap after the first one it's just a matter of time...  i'm kinda hoping either the ramz or ram-defrag stuff takes care of it in 2.6.35.. i know cwillu_at_work was fighting it too..20:16
rsalvetircn-ee_lpt: have you ever tested ramz on beagle? don't know how stable or unstable it is20:26
rsalvetiI heard from ogra that was quite unstable, with bugs20:26
rsalvetibut no more than that20:26
rcn-ee_lptsorry, been to busy with the xm, so other then enabling it, haven't really tested it..20:27
rcn-ee_lptit's based of the compcache ubuntu's been shipping for awhile right?20:27
rcn-ee_lptnope.. pre 2.6.34: [    4.296813] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card20:29
rsalvetiyep, but it's disabled for omap, I believe20:32
prpplaguesomeone refresh my memory, where is the location in ubuntu (x86 desktop) to tweak the removable media settings?20:34
XorAprpplague: I think they ate it20:35
XorAprpplague: I dont have the gnome removable media tool in my menus by default20:35
prpplagueXorA: seems like there is a command line you cna issue20:35
rcn-ee_lptyeah it's gone..  right a script for and pray the device id never changes. ;)20:36
XorAor run KDE :_)20:36
XorAnot that I would wish that hell on anyone20:37
prpplaguercn-ee_lpt: i just don't want it to pop up a window every time it mounts20:37
rcn-ee_lptyeah, it's annoying.. not sure how to take care of that, i know my 'setup_sd.sh' flashes the pop up 4-5 times..20:38
* prpplague has done it before20:43
prpplagueahh found it20:47
rcn-ee_lptprpplague, give https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/30501 a try.. gconf-editor has a media_automount_open..20:47
prpplaguercn-ee_lpt: if you open a window browsing the contents, you can go edit preferences and there are some options there20:48
rcn-ee_lptcool. i see it too.. disabled..20:50
GrueMasterNCommander: Should we enable netboot images for omap4?21:43
mpoirierrcn-ee_lpt: did you try 2.6.35-rc1 to rc5 ?21:54
mpoirierrcn-ee_lpt: meant 2.6.34-rc1 to rc521:54
GrueMastermpoirier: Not sure how difficult it would be, but have you taken the omap kernel config and tried it on the Working Lucid kernel?21:56
GrueMasterOr is there no significant changes in the config?21:56
NCommanderGrueMaster: that can be done with a little fiddling to DI, assign me a bug21:57
GrueMasterNCommander: Not sure if it is already part of the preinstalled image blueprint.  Need to check there first.21:57
rcn-ee_lptmpoirier, i went as low as 2.6.34-rc7 anything else won't post on the Xm..21:58
mpoirier2.6.34-rc1 to rc5 don't output anything on the console21:58
mpoirierhere's the kicker: 2.6.33.rc8 works fine.21:59
rcn-ee_lptthat's funny...21:59
mpoirierand the next booting tag, 2.6.34-rc6 is broken.21:59
rcn-ee_lptso it's somewhere between 2.6.33-rc8 - 2.6.34-rc721:59
rcn-ee_lptthis is on the Bx right?22:00
mpoirier2.6.33-rc8 and 2.6.34-rc622:00
mpoirierCx22:00
rcn-ee_lptc4.. i mean.. i'm the only one with old stuff22:00
mpoiriersomewhere in there...22:00
mpoirierbut it is impossible to find since the kernel won't boot.22:01
mpoirierhence you can't bisect that.22:01
mpoirierI just asked about the r1 to rc5 in #beagle but nobody replied.22:02
rcn-ee_lptmpoirier, yeah #beagle doesn't really care unless it's angstrom's kernel.. ;) ..22:04
rcn-ee_lptone small problem... http://pastebin.com/APevgWD622:04
rcn-ee_lpti need to dig thru my sdhc cards...22:04
hrw|gonezumbi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~hrw/+archive/arm-cross-compiler/22:06
mpoirierrcn-ee_lpt: what is this link you just sent ?22:07
rcn-ee_lptthat is the same micro sd card.. that fails on my Xm... but not on my Bx... (Bx needs a Micro to BIG convertor)22:08
rcn-ee_lptyeah, i was asleep during 2.6.34 develment, i can't find any notes about the console in my old trees..22:14
rcn-ee_lptguys kridner just posted the xm schematics: http://beagleboard.org/hardware/design22:23
rsalvetinice22:25
rcn-ee_lptokay back in businness, found a pny sdhc card that fails on my bx "mmc0: error -110"22:36
GrueMasterWho do I ping with spelling errors in the XM manual? (And if they used OpenOffice it would have already found these.)22:38
GrueMaster:P22:38
rcn-ee_lptgerald on beagleboard.org..22:38
GrueMasterGrumble.  4 years of college and all I really know is how to proofread.22:39
loolOh there's an A2 now22:41
hrw|gonelool: xm a2?22:43
rcn-ee_lptmpoirier, 2.6.34-rc5 is bad.. this patch will take care of most of 2.6.34-rc's.. http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/testing/patch-2.6.34-rc.diff22:45
rcn-ee_lptyeap the xm A2 is the first production one..22:45
mpoirierare you tacking our little mmc problem or the console not coming out ?22:45
rcn-ee_lptthe patch is a console patch... earlyprintk (serial boot) was converted in that rc cycle..22:46
rcn-ee_lptomap specific to generic conversion...22:46
mpoirierfantastic - I was actually bisecting between 2.6.33-rc8 and 2.6.34-rc1 to find what broke the console output.22:47
loolhrw|gone: Yeah22:55
rcn-ee_lptcrap, for 2.6.34-rc2, remove the omap_vram/dss2 stuff.. it breaks..22:57
rcn-ee_lptmpoirier, for 2.6.34-rc2 you'll need: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=5c1f96f423:03
mpoirierconsole again ?23:03
rcn-ee_lptvram.c failes to compile.. so 2.6.34-rc2 won't build..  (2.6.34-rc3 fails mmc -110)23:03
rcn-ee_lpt2.6.34-rc2 fails.. i really hope it isn't the rc1 merge...23:07
rcn-ee_lptfor 2.6.34-rc1 we need: (for serial) http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=21b903423:11
rcn-ee_lptcrap 2.6.34-rc1 fails...  so that leaves 2.6.33-rc8 -> 2.6.34-rc1...23:17
rcn-ee_lptmpoirier, are you guys sure 2.6.33 failed?  there was a large omap conversion from 2.6.33->34-rc123:28
mpoirier2.6.33-rc8 works.23:28
mpoirierrc2 fails,23:29
mpoiriertherefore it is between 2.6.33-rc8 and 34-rc123:29
rcn-ee_lptyay.. ;) crabs another beer... there's lots of config changes..23:32
mpoirieryou're always one step ahead of me.23:34
mpoirieri'm currently compiling 34-rc1 after cherry-picking 21b903423:35
rcn-ee_lpt;) it's just easier when you have all the patches from the last time i had to build it for real..23:35
mpoirierand a lot of experience doing it.23:36
mpoirierdo you know how many patches between 33-rc8 and 34-rc1 ?23:36
rcn-ee_lptwell, i'm just trying to get 2.6.33 built right now.. (and praying to rule out rc1) but alot of the config names changed...23:37
mpoirierrcn-ee_lpt: still no console output on 34-rc1, even after cherry picking 21b9034.23:43
mpoirierdid i miss something ?23:43
rcn-ee_lptfor rc1 you need 21b9034 (merge rc2) and then the previous one too...23:44
rcn-ee_lptthis is the 'pervious' one mimized as much as possible http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/testing/patch-2.6.34-rc-take2.diff23:45
mpoirierok, let me try23:46
rcn-ee_lptsure.. well 2.6.33 works...  i'll post my config in second just incase i ended up remving too much..  but itlooks like 2.6.33 -> 2.6.34-rc..23:47
mpoirieryou mean 33-rc8 -> 34-rc1 ?23:48
rcn-ee_lpthttp://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/testing/2.6.33-config23:48
rcn-ee_lptwell i got 2.6.33 to boot (no problems with mmc card...) but i'm going to double check the config.. incase oldconfig removed too much23:48
mpoirieryou can go all the way to 33-rc8 if you want.23:49
mpoirierok, got console output on 34-rc1.23:51
rcn-ee_lptcool23:51

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