[00:52] <xubuntu216> hy
[00:53] <charlie-tca> !hi | Alexzander
[00:53] <Alexzander> charlie-tca.. tel me hot tu use Wine :|
[00:53] <charlie-tca> !wine
[00:54] <charlie-tca> Just click the link to the help wiki
[00:54] <charlie-tca> Those people in #winehq will know a lot more than I do, too
[00:54] <Alexzander> ok
[00:54] <Alexzander> thnx
[01:46] <Gooseheaded> Hello. Absolute newbie, heree.
[01:46] <Gooseheaded> I've been trying to install Xubuntu on another computer for half an hour now, and teh installation simply stalls.
[01:46] <Gooseheaded> I'm transitioning form Windows to Xubuntu. Is there anything specific I should do... ?
[01:47] <Gooseheaded> Yes, I've taken a look at the forums, but I can't seem to find a fit solution to my problem.
[01:52] <Gooseheaded> Is there a help channel or somethign similar I can go to... ?
[01:52] <Gooseheaded> something*
[02:49] <Gooseheaded> ...anyone around?
[02:56] <well_laid_lawn> it's quiet time in here mostly at this time of day...
[02:56] <well_laid_lawn> but ask away :]
[02:58] <Gooseheaded> Well
[02:58] <Gooseheaded> I've been trying to install Xubuntu on another computer for half an hour now, and the installation simply stalls.
[02:59] <Gooseheaded> I've looked around the forums, but I haven't found a solution yet.
[02:59] <well_laid_lawn> any errors mentioned at all?
[02:59] <Gooseheaded> Nope.
[02:59] <Gooseheaded> After the "7 stesp" (keyboard, location, username, etc)
[02:59] <Gooseheaded> It just shows me the xubuntu logo
[02:59] <Gooseheaded> And after a minute, I get a black screen.
[02:59] <Gooseheaded> :/
[03:00] <Gooseheaded> The computer has Windows XP, but I'm going to overwrite it.
[03:00] <well_laid_lawn> done the md5 check from the cd menu?
[03:00] <well_laid_lawn> bad cd burns do that sort of thing
[03:01] <Gooseheaded> Alright, I don't actually knwo hwo to do that.
[03:01] <Gooseheaded> I'm not an absolute newbie when it comes to software. I know 'how' to do stuff, but I don't knwo what.
[03:01] <Gooseheaded> So, how do I check that?
[03:01] <Gooseheaded> know*
[03:02] <Gooseheaded> Is it the "main menu option", "Check for disc errors" ?
[03:02] <Gooseheaded> (Sounds a bit obvious, but, I don't want to lose any more time)
[03:03] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[03:04] <Gooseheaded> Alright. Letting it run.
[03:04] <Gooseheaded> So why do -you- use xubuntu? I'm a "loyal" Windows user, just because I'm a gamer.
[03:04] <well_laid_lawn> I like how it looks and it is very configurable - I right click the desktop to open the menu
[03:06] <Gooseheaded> I'll have to admit, I've always loved the look of some unix-based OSs
[03:06] <Gooseheaded> especially Fedora. Fedora is gorgeous.
[03:06] <Gooseheaded> A bit too complex for me, though. :P
[03:07] <well_laid_lawn> fedora is pretty bloated
[03:08] <Gooseheaded> Ah, finally. "installing system" window. Sweet.
[03:08] <Gooseheaded> And, well, according to some ofm y friends, Fedora is really powerful
[03:08] <Gooseheaded> Hard to use, but very customizable.
[03:08] <Gooseheaded> I wouldn't know. :P
[03:09] <Gooseheaded> I'm just going to install xubuntu, install mysql, php, torrentflux, and what not...
[03:09] <Gooseheaded> Then leave the computer turned on for the rest of eternity, with no mouse, keyboard, or monitor
[03:10] <well_laid_lawn> xfce4 comes with it's own compositor for some eyecandy stuff :]
[03:10] <well_laid_lawn> o k
[03:18] <Gooseheaded> :]
[03:18] <Gooseheaded> There's an effect that, when you drag windows around, they look like jelly-ish. They wobble around. Any iddea of what that 'plugin' or 'effect' is called?
[03:19] <well_laid_lawn> that's compiz's wobbly windows - a seperate window manager
[03:19] <well_laid_lawn> it's easy enough to use
[03:19] <well_laid_lawn> !compiz
[03:20] <Gooseheaded> Ty. :D
[04:05] <Gooseheaded> Yay, installed.
[04:06] <Gooseheaded> I'll set up a render farm in a year
[04:06] <Gooseheaded> For now, I'll just use it as local network storage.
[04:06] <Gooseheaded> Thank you, mister well_laid_lawn.
[04:06] <Gooseheaded> :P
[04:06] <well_laid_lawn> :] np
[04:59] <xubuntu509> spanish?
[04:59] <Gooseheaded> ?
[05:07] <Mahmoud> how to turn LED on/off depending on keyboard toggled layout
[05:08] <Mahmoud> when I do alt_shift, and my input keyboard layout toggles to "fr", for example, I want to turn on the light of "mic mute" as I don't really use it
[05:08] <Gooseheaded> I'm a new guy, sorry, <:/
[05:09] <Gooseheaded> But, good luck with your issue
[05:09] <Gooseheaded> :]
[05:09] <Mahmoud> xubuntu/ubuntu has a stupid user community
[05:27] <nexus6__> does anybody here use jDownloader on xubuntu?
[08:03] <nikolam> nexus6__, I use tucan sometimes, it is very nice, also
[08:07] <Ileden> Hi! I'm encountering a REALLY weird problem on my Acer Aspire one netbook. My screen is all mangled up, it's like the pixels have gone on a party or something. It affects fonts (same characters are mangled up in a same way) and window decroations - but icons seem ok. Reboot fixes. Never happened before with Ubuntu, now happened twice with Xubuntu. Both times after somewhat "intense" use. Questions: 1) Is there a way to try to fix this without rebooting, and thus l
[08:08] <Sysi> cutted after: and thus l
[08:09] <Ileden> Questions: 1) Is there a way to try to fix this without rebooting, and thus losing all open windows. On gnome, I could do "metacity --replace" to fix some prolems, is there a similar thing for xfce? 2) What on earth is causing this weirdness? :D
[08:31] <francisco> hi
[08:32] <francisco> can someone help me? I replaced my Ubuntu to Xubuntu but I don't know how to mark some files for executable now, I don't have any option =/
[08:32] <Ileden> francisco: how did you do it in ubuntu?
[08:33] <Ileden> francisco: from terminal, it's always the same: chmod u+x <file>
[08:33] <francisco> Ileden: I pressed (propiedades), I'm spanish, like settings I think of that file, then I marked it as executable, but I don' have any mark now for executable >,< xD
[08:34] <francisco> oh kk
[08:34] <francisco> thank you Ileden =)
[08:53] <Ileden> Hi! I'm encountering a REALLY weird problem on my Acer Aspire one netbook. My screen is all mangled up, it's like the pixels have gone on a party or something. It affects fonts (same characters are mangled up in a same way) and window decroations - but icons seem ok. Reboot fixes. Never happened before with Ubuntu, now happened twice with Xubuntu. Both times after somewhat "intense" use.
[08:54] <Ileden> Questions: 1) Is there a way to try to fix this without rebooting, and thus losing all open windows. On gnome, I could do "metacity --replace" to fix some prolems, is there a similar thing for xfce? 2) What on earth is causing this weirdness? :D
[09:07] <well_laid_lawn> Ileden: I wonder if your vid caed is dying? - you can try xfwm --replace for xfce4
[09:07] <well_laid_lawn> s/caed/card
[09:07] <well_laid_lawn>  /
[09:07] <Sysi> in xubuntu that doesn't kill compiz
[09:08] <well_laid_lawn> didn't see compiz mentioned
[09:08] <well_laid_lawn> but won't that at least restart the wm?
[09:08] <Sysi> yup
[09:09] <well_laid_lawn> bbiab
[09:52] <Ileden> well_laid_lawn: it could be it's dying, but I doubt it, since symptoms appeared only after switching to xubuntu
[09:52] <Ileden> Sysi: no compiz in use
[09:54] <Ileden> s
[09:54] <Ileden> well_laid_lawn: xfwm4 --replace didn't help
[09:57] <well_laid_lawn> Ileden: is there a .xsession-errors file or similar?
[09:58] <Ileden> well_laid_lawn: yes
[09:59] <Ileden> well_laid_lawn: What should I look for there?
[10:00] <well_laid_lawn> Ileden: I have no idea - I've never encountered graphics playing up like that
[10:01] <Ileden> I'll try to get it into pastebin...
[10:01] <well_laid_lawn> Ileden: is there a new monitor - it might be refresh rates
[10:02] <Ileden> well_laid_lawn: Nope. Same attached lcd screen.
[10:02] <well_laid_lawn> k
[10:02] <Ileden> well_laid_lawn: and the problem only has appeared twice
[10:03] <well_laid_lawn> Ileden: that makes me think it's hardware - fan dying maybe..?
[10:06] <Ileden> well_laid_lawn: hmm, could be... I'll have to monitor the fan speeds
[10:06] <Ileden> well_laid_lawn: funny thing is, after the problem appears, it persists whether continuing "intense" use or not, until i reboot.
[10:07] <Ileden> well_laid_lawn: also, it wasn't *that* intense, that's why the quotes :)
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> Ileden: the only way to see if it is that is to look :]
[10:08] <Ileden> here's .xsession-errors http://ubuntu.pastebin.org/450524
[10:12] <well_laid_lawn> k
[10:13] <well_laid_lawn> Ileden: from that vlc and thunar have minor issues
[10:14] <well_laid_lawn> but nothing else major
[10:15] <well_laid_lawn> !info sensors
[10:15] <well_laid_lawn> well
[10:16] <well_laid_lawn> !sensors
[10:16] <MagicSata> hey
[10:17] <MagicSata> is there a way to change from ubuntu to xubuntu and keep my /home without backing up?
[10:18] <Sysi> !xubuntu
[10:18] <MagicSata> !xubuntu-channels
[10:19] <MagicSata> is there a way to change from ubuntu to xubuntu and keep my /home without backing up?
[10:19] <Sysi> install package xubuntu-desktop
[10:20] <MagicSata> i installed xfce4 and select from start
[10:20] <MagicSata> do i do xubuntu-desktop as well?
[10:21] <Sysi> they should be same
[10:21] <MagicSata> ok
[13:20] <nexus6__> hi, i have a NAS (buffalo linkstation duo). how can i mount it on xubuntu?
[13:21] <psycho_oreos> how is it connected?
[13:22] <nexus6__> its plugged in into the w-lan router
[13:25] <psycho_oreos> hmm needs something that can mount cifs/smbfs, I don't know of the frontend tools for that but the type of filesystem I mentioned I think can help you
[15:24] <crazygir> hiya, so I'm upgrading my system and am at the dreaded update menu.lst step. I usually have problems with this if I don't pay attention and/or trust xubuntu too much, and then have to go fix the entries. The first thing I noticed in comparing the two versions is that the UUIDs are not the same for the old/new menu.lst entries
[15:24] <crazygir> thoughts?
[15:28] <TheSheep> crazygir: uuids change if you formatted the disks
[15:46] <crazygir> TheSheep: I haven't
[15:54] <crazygir> the updater is just wrong
[15:55] <crazygir> why is this?
[17:58] <nexus6__> xfce4-volumed needs 90% cpu... how comes?
[17:58] <nexus6__> 102% cpu... o0
[18:04] <nexus6__> hello?
[18:07] <charlie-tca> bug
[18:07] <charlie-tca> Not sure where it comes from, though
[18:09] <nexus6__> well i just "sudo apt-get remove xfce4-volumed"... but that no a clean solution :(
[18:09] <charlie-tca> bug 607474
[18:10] <charlie-tca> click the top line, Does this bug affect you?
[18:10] <nexus6__> top line?
[18:10] <charlie-tca> Just click the pencil in the circle next to that and mark it yes
[18:10] <charlie-tca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/607474
[18:11] <charlie-tca> Well, not top line, I guess
[18:11] <charlie-tca> but above the "Affects   Status   Importance" line
[18:21] <nexus6__> i dont have a yes option there ...
[18:23] <charlie-tca> When you click the yellow circle next to the "does this bug affect you?" line?
[18:23] <charlie-tca> Then add a comment that the bug affects you also
[18:35] <nexus6__> it looks like i need to be registered
[18:39] <charlie-tca> Oh, yeah. You need to be registered. You need that anyway, so you can report bugs you find
[18:40] <nexus6__> hmm i suppose i will switch back to windows xp... i am not so satisfied with xubuntu
[18:40] <charlie-tca> I see
[18:41] <nexus6__> i need to think about it...
[18:41] <nexus6__> could it be that the xubuntu wlan driver make my wlan slow?
[18:44] <charlie-tca> Not that I know of. Could be that it is trying ipv6 though
[18:44] <nexus6__> some of my customer websites i am managing take incredible long for uploading files via the browser
[18:45] <nexus6__> or some rendering in firefox
[18:45] <nexus6__> could be a firefox issue though
[20:06] <datacrusher> im wondering in xubuntu wiki, but didnt found a nice guide about installing nvidia drivers on xubuntu, is it too different than ubuntu?
[20:17] <TheSheep> datacrusher: no, it's identical
[20:17] <TheSheep> datacrusher: go to system->hardware drivers
[20:28] <datacrusher> hm thanks
[20:38] <datacrusher> hmm actually i dont got nvidia graphics, check my lsusb and lspci - http://pastebin.com/rN6nyBma
[20:38] <datacrusher> is there a way to improve the driver?
[22:21] <maxwellian> Hi all, just upgraded to Xubuntu 10.04 and now I'm having trouble booting.
[22:24] <manbra> Are you ubootuing?
[22:24] <maxwellian> ubootuing...I don't know what that is, so I'd guess not?
[22:25] <manbra> Oh, I was kidding, sorry, I can't help : (
[22:25]  * manbra stumbles around linux just as much
[22:26] <Sysi> maxwellian: any more details?
[22:26] <maxwellian> Sysi: Sure, I just didn't want to flood this channel if no one was here. :)
[22:27] <maxwellian> I get to some kind of Xubuntu splash screen, and I'm given the option to "Continue to wait, press S to skip mounting, or M for manual recovery"
[22:27] <maxwellian> I think it's doing mountall at that time.
[22:28] <Sysi> how many partitions do you have?
[22:29] <maxwellian> But I've waited ten minutes and nothing happens.  If I press S (to skip mounting) it just goes to a blank screen.  If I press M (for manual recovery) it asks me to enter the root password (which doesn't exist).
[22:29] <maxwellian> Hmm, how do I figure out the partitions?
[22:29] <Sysi> do you have dualboot?
[22:29] <maxwellian> Sysi: Yes.
[22:30] <maxwellian> With Windows.
[22:30] <Sysi> hmm, you should maybe use livecd, if it's just fstab
[22:31] <maxwellian> What do you mean, if it's just fstab?  If fstab is the problem?
[22:33] <Sysi> if there aren't more broken things
[22:34] <maxwellian> What would I do with the LiveCD?  I know I can boot from it, but how will it help me fix the problem?
[22:34] <Sysi> mount your xubuntu-partition and fix fstab (where are mounted devices)
[22:35] <maxwellian> Sysi: How do I fix it?  I don't know what's wrong with it, if anything.
[22:35] <maxwellian> Can I pastebin my fstab?
[22:35] <Sysi> that's what i'm talking about
[22:38] <maxwellian> Sysi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/474249/
[22:38] <Sysi> maxwellian: from the broken xubuntu?
[22:39]  * maxwellian nods
[22:41] <maxwellian> I just realize that I didn't mention that I'm able to boot with the previous kernel.  That's how I'm here right now.
[22:41] <Sysi> so it isn't fstab
[22:41] <maxwellian> On the previous kernel I can press S (to skip mounting) and Xubuntu launches.
[22:41] <Sysi> hum, interesting
[22:42] <Sysi> could you pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l'
[22:43] <maxwellian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/474251/
[22:45] <maxwellian> When I use the previous kernel and press S (to skip mounting) it gives a couple of errors: "Mounting none on /dev failed; no such device"
[22:45] <maxwellian> And "chroot cannot execute /etc/apparmor/initramfs: No such file or directory"
[22:46] <Sysi> replace UUID=numbers with /dev/sdaX
[22:48] <charlie-tca> Sysi: what about replacing /dev/hda1 with sda1 on line 12?
[22:48] <charlie-tca> or does it matter?
[22:48] <Sysi> charlie-tca: i think it's not needed, at least for fixing xubuntu :P
[22:49] <maxwellian> That's my Windows partition.  I think it was sda1 at some point in the past, but I don't know for sure.
[22:49] <Sysi> charlie-tca: could it be something very other than fstab?
[22:49] <maxwellian> Sysi: How would I know which numbers to use for X in sdaX?
[22:50] <charlie-tca> I don't think so. The new kernels though care about what is in fstab. If LVM is used, UUID won't let it boot at all
[22:50] <Sysi> it's there on the abowe line
[22:50] <charlie-tca> I think you are on the right track, but I am learning too.
[22:51] <maxwellian> Not using LVM, for the record.
[22:51] <maxwellian> I'll try those renames in fstab.
[22:53] <maxwellian> Is there a known problem with using UIDs, or are we just trying this out?
[22:53] <maxwellian> UUIDs, rather.
[22:53] <charlie-tca> I sure would. Sysi knows these things better than me
[22:53] <Sysi> i've heard about uuids changing in update
[22:54] <maxwellian> It seems weird that the older kernel can figure it out though?
[22:55] <Sysi> that's why i'm not sure it's fstab
[22:55] <Sysi> IDK how uuids work
[22:57] <Sysi> but that change won't break anything
[23:01] <maxwellian> Is it a problem that the last line in my fstab doesn't actually seem to do anything?  I.e., /mnt/ntfs does not exist.
[23:02] <Sysi> does it boot to windows?
[23:03] <maxwellian> Yes.
[23:03] <maxwellian> Well, at least it came out of hibernation for Windows.
[23:04] <maxwellian> Windows had been hibernated, but I assume it would work if it weren't.
[23:05] <Sysi> folders can be created automatically
[23:06] <maxwellian> I understand that, but assuming that during boot the system tries to mount everything in my fstab, it seems that it didn't succeed.
[23:09] <Sysi> i also don't actually know how other broken entries affect others