[00:22] <ScottK> neversfelde: I think Ubuntu Tweak is still an open question.  I'd just reply to the thread with what you said here.
[00:30] <neversfelde> ScottK: k, will do
[00:30] <neversfelde> thanks
[00:37] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ping
[00:38] <Quintasan> Hmm, our Todo is pretty much greed
[00:38] <Quintasan> green*
[00:44] <Quintasan> Riddell: Trying updating on Lucid
[01:03] <CIA-98> [kubuntu-firefox-installer] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100807000342-58pgwyemsxj2ydu7 * (8 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[01:03] <CIA-98> * Apply patches in debian/patches, and remove debian/patches * Switch to source
[01:03] <CIA-98> format 3.0 (native) since quilt packages must have an orig tarball, and we can't
[01:38] <ScottK> Riddell: Now that the Kopete icon is gone, how is one supposed to get to the setting for the application?  That seems a bit of a problem.
[01:41] <ScottK> Riddell: Nevermind.  Combination of appmenu, messag indicator, and hidden systray icon was just a little too obscure for me.
[01:41] <ScottK> Figured it out.
[03:14] <FloridaGuy> is there a repo right now for 4.5
[03:20] <lubun2> FloridaGuy, kubuntu-ppa/beta but only rc2
[03:20] <FloridaGuy> dang....been useing 3 in mandriva
[03:20] <lubun2> get the maverick if you want 4.5.0
[03:22] <FloridaGuy> whats the maverick
[04:10] <CIA-98> [kubuntu-firefox-installer] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100807031035-eoxb7oa66zo06rj7 * (4 files in 2 dirs) * Since qapt-batch handles authorization, there is no need to use kdesudo * Remove dependency on kdesudo in debian/control
[04:59] <CIA-98> [muon] jmthomas * 1160112 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Only go in to download or commit mode if Muon has asked to do so, otherwise we may start displaying progress for example qapt-batch and crash because we haven't made our download or commit widgets yet
[04:59] <JontheEchidna> only caught that one after software-properties-kde was ported to qapt-batch :P
[05:00] <JontheEchidna> once the buildd's catch up there should be no more reverse-depends for install-package
[05:00] <JontheEchidna> I've booted it off the CD too
[05:11] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: I've uploaded a new libdebconf-kde, so perhaps tomorrow (todayish now, I suppose) you could take another look at it.
[05:11] <JontheEchidna> and if everything's all published, install-package can be removed from the archive, too.
[07:35] <pushkaraj> hello, i am getting -> error : Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_library" while compiling kate
[07:35] <pushkaraj>  do anyone know about this ? I am reffering - http://kate-editor.org/get-it/ point #5
[07:36] <pushkaraj> anyone here???
[07:38] <pushkaraj> heloooooooo?
[09:02] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: ping
[09:43] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100807084326-lc2olsh7qjk4g1z9 * src/ (6 files in 3 dirs) mergery
[12:27] <pushkaraj> hello everybody
[12:28] <pushkaraj> I am facing error while compiling kate, - while executing command - cmake ../kate -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=fulldebug -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/kde/usr
[12:28] <pushkaraj> it is saying 
[12:28] <pushkaraj> CMake Error at app/CMakeLists.txt:33 (kde4_add_library):
[12:28] <pushkaraj>   Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_library".
[12:29] <pushkaraj> pushkaraj@laptop:~/kde/build$ echo $CMAKE_MODULE_PATH 
[12:29] <pushkaraj> /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/
[12:29] <pushkaraj> I have $CMAKE_MODULE_PATH set  to  /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/
[12:30] <pushkaraj> Can anyone tell me in which package the function - kde4_add_library is present?
[12:30] <Riddell> pushkaraj: needs to be   ..   not ../kate
[12:30] <Riddell> the kate directory isn't set up to be a top level directory for compiling
[12:31] <Riddell> then you can do   cd kate; make  if you only want to compile that part
[12:38] <pushkaraj> Riddell: as per http://kate-editor.org/get-it/; I have following structure ~/kde/ is parent containing kate/ & build/ dir, and I am executing the command from build directory
[12:38] <pushkaraj> following directory strucutre*
[12:38] <Riddell> kate moved to git?
[12:39] <Riddell> pushkaraj: well you probably need the kdelibs developer package for your distro
[12:39] <pushkaraj> yes i guess
[12:39] <pushkaraj> yeah I have installed it
[12:39] <shadeslayer> weekend.. finally \o/
[12:40] <pushkaraj> apt-get install says - kdelibs5-dev is already the newest version.
[12:41] <ari-tczew> Riddell: can you help me with package konversation?
[12:43] <Riddell> pushkaraj: what distro are you on?
[12:43] <Riddell> ari-tczew: what needs helped?
[12:43] <pushkaraj> Riddell: kubuntu 10.04
[12:43] <Riddell> nice choice :)
[12:43] <Riddell> pushkaraj: let me try
[12:44] <ari-tczew> Riddell: I'm preparing a merge this package and in debian/control exist line Replaces
[12:44] <pushkaraj> Riddell: okey
[12:44] <ari-tczew> I don't know what I have to put there. I tried to install built'ed package, but it's not possible to install
[12:46] <Riddell> ari-tczew: what happens when you install?
[12:47] <ari-tczew> Riddell: Breaks existing package 'konversation' dependency konversation-data (= 1.3.1-0ubuntu2)
[12:48] <Riddell> pushkaraj: you presumably have this file?  /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/KDE4Macros.cmake
[12:50] <Riddell> ari-tczew: what are you doing to install it?
[12:51] <ari-tczew> Riddell: 2x click on .deb file 
[12:51] <ari-tczew> so use gdebi to install
[12:53] <Riddell> ari-tczew: that won't work you need to install the -data and the other one together
[12:53] <Riddell> sudo dpkg --install *deb
[12:55] <pushkaraj> Riddell: Yes i have
[12:59] <pushkaraj> Riddell: I read on some forum; to add - find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED) in CMakeLists.txt 
[13:01] <ari-tczew> Riddell: ok, but what I need have in debian/control? The different between ubuntu and debian is following: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mRmrfy3J
[13:01] <pushkaraj> Riddell: this is the output of the cmake http://paste.ubuntu.com/474489/
[13:03] <Riddell> pushkaraj: do you have /usr/lib/automoc4/automoc4.files.in  ?
[13:03] <pushkaraj> Riddell: there is something vital thing i am missing in configuration!!! :S
[13:06] <Riddell> ari-tczew: hard to say it depends when the relevant file was moved about, I'd go with the higher version number to be sure
[13:07] <ari-tczew> Riddell: so keep Replaces field from Ubuntu? Replaces: konversation (<< 1.3.1)
[13:08] <pushkaraj> pushkaraj@laptop:~/kde/build$ ls /usr/lib/automoc4/automoc4.files.in 
[13:08] <pushkaraj>  /usr/lib/automoc4/automoc4.files.in
[13:08] <pushkaraj> Riddell: Yes I have
[13:09] <Riddell> ari-tczew: yes
[13:10] <ari-tczew> ok
[13:10] <Riddell> ari-tczew: may as well add the Breaks too though
[13:12] <Riddell> pushkaraj: dunno.  I try a  sudo apt-get install --reinstall automoc
[13:12] <Riddell> automoc is the start of your errors
[13:17] <Quintasan> urgh
[13:17] <Quintasan> Riddell: no kwin for me as for now
[13:17] <Riddell> ?
[13:18] <shadeslayer> ohhh this is awesome...
[13:18] <Quintasan> Riddell: kwin is broken with lucid packages somehow
[13:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: apachelogger you guys ever watched House MD? 
[13:19] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Who haven't?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> me :P
[13:19] <shadeslayer> im watching it right now :D
[13:19] <shadeslayer> with PIM is compiling :P
[13:19] <Quintasan> KWin: Library /usr/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so is not at window manager plugin
[13:19] <Quintasan> Riddell: ^
[13:25] <pushkaraj> Riddell: the reinstall didnot solved it :(
[13:25] <Quintasan> krrr
[14:29] <shadeslayer> :O
[14:30] <shadeslayer> i fixored the patch :P
[14:30] <shadeslayer> kdepim done
[14:32] <Quintasan> It's your fault shadeslayer 
[14:32] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: whut? 
[14:32] <Quintasan> My KWin broke once again :/
[14:32] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yeah same thing happening here
[14:32] <Quintasan> Someone has to blamed, right? :P
[14:32] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i blame kwin guys :p
[14:33] <shadeslayer> -./usr/lib/kde4/kabc_groupwise.so -./usr/lib/libtemplateparser.so and -./usr/share/man/man1/kabcclient.1 << do i need to install all of these? ( the so file i think yes )
[14:33] <shadeslayer> not sure about manpage
[14:34] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: are those files in not-installed file?
[14:34] <shadeslayer> and then theres the issue of where to put those kabc files 0_o
[14:34] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yeah
[14:34] <Quintasan> mas shall be ignored
[14:35] <shadeslayer> errr
[14:35] <Quintasan> well
[14:35] <shadeslayer> no.. they are from B10
[14:35] <Quintasan> damn you shadeslayer 
[14:35] <Quintasan> check not-installed file in debian/
[14:35] <Quintasan> are those files mentioned there?
[14:35] <shadeslayer> not there
[14:35] <Quintasan> so you want to install them
[14:36] <Quintasan> the manpage can be ignored as we told you earlier
[14:36] <shadeslayer> templateparser is there tho
[14:36] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yeah i guessed we can leave that out
[14:36] <Quintasan> in not-installed?
[14:36] <shadeslayer> yep
[14:36] <shadeslayer> so only the kabc file
[14:36] <Quintasan> so we probably want only kabc file
[14:37] <shadeslayer> which install file tho....
[14:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: your window borders disappear abruptly too?
[14:38] <Quintasan> not abruptly
[14:38] <Quintasan> they just do not start
[14:38] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: have you been using oxygen-transparent
[14:38] <shadeslayer> well... they abruptly vanish here and then come back to life
[14:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yes :P
[14:39] <Quintasan> that's the cause probably
[14:39] <shadeslayer> but i installed it and resinstalled the files it uninstalled
[14:39] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: how do you reinstall all your kde :P
[14:40] <Quintasan> I'm waiting for Riddell to confirm if it occurs or not
[14:40] <Quintasan> It might be something with our packages
[14:40] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I would personally do sudo dpkg --force-all --purge <kde packages>
[14:40] <shadeslayer> :O
[14:40] <Quintasan> and then sudo aptitude reinstall <kde packages>
[14:41] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: we does not have aptitude any more
[14:41] <shadeslayer> well.. in default install
[14:41] <Quintasan> and that was the worst choice
[14:42] <Quintasan> aptitude is my right-hand until Muon gets in shape
[14:42] <shadeslayer> hmm... no stalcup here 
[14:43] <Quintasan> hmm
[14:43] <Quintasan> gotta get some food
[14:43] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: kabc first
[14:43] <shadeslayer> tell me where to put it 
[14:44] <shadeslayer> oh ha
[14:44] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: found it kdepim-groupware.install
[14:44] <shadeslayer> bazinga
[14:47] <Riddell> Quintasan: kwin all good here using 4.5.0b
[15:21] <Quintasan> Riddell: :<
[15:23] <Quintasan> Now I'm missing Oxygen window decoration
[15:23] <Quintasan> I wonder why
[15:30] <Quintasan> hmm
[15:30] <Quintasan> purging whole KDE
[15:52] <Quintasan> Riddell: can you upload that kde3_oxygen.so somewhere?
[16:16] <Riddell> Quintasan: it's from kde-window-manager_4%3a4.5.0b-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1_amd64.deb
[16:56] <Quintasan> Riddell: this doesnt cut it
[16:56] <Quintasan> I wonder what is wrong
[16:57] <Riddell> Quintasan: are you on i386 or amd64?
[16:58] <Quintasan> amd64
[17:03] <Quintasan> Riddell: it seems this is caused by installing oxygen-transparent
[17:07] <Riddell> ah hah
[17:08] <Quintasan> Hm?
[17:09] <Quintasan> It overwrites some files but shouldn't dpkg -i --force-overwrite on our packages solve the thing?
[17:10] <Riddell> overwrites files?  erk
[17:11] <maco> er... you mean it has conflicting files
[17:11] <Quintasan> yes
[17:11] <Quintasan> http://pastebin.com/aqFVLpJ8
[17:32] <shadeslayer> i hate building PIM :/
[17:32] <shadeslayer> my hardware is sloooow :(
[17:33] <debfx> Riddell: have you seen my messages regarding packagekit?
[17:34] <Riddell> debfx: no, on the bug?
[17:36] <debfx> Riddell: basically when you upgrade from lucid to maverick packgekit doesn't work anymore
[17:37] <debfx> because packagekit-backend-apt is installed so it doesn't install packagekit-backend-aptcc
[17:38] <Riddell> it should still work with packagekit-backend-apt
[17:38] <Riddell> although I haven't tested it
[17:39] <debfx> Riddell: yes, but you need to change the config
[17:39] <debfx> it doesn't automatically fall back to another backend
[17:39] <Riddell> oh, hmm
[17:40] <Riddell> that'll be an issue then
[17:46] <debfx> ideally each packagekit backend would register itself and we could assign priorities
[17:48] <debfx> but as that's not the case we need to make it depend (or at least recommend) backend-aptcc
[17:51] <pushkaraj> James147: Hello James I am back
[17:51] <James147> Hi pushkaraj
[17:53] <pushkaraj> as you said before, I have git cloned kate in a seperate folder in ~/kde1
[17:53] <pushkaraj> and then I have created a build folder; and from build folder I did run the cmake (modified one)
[17:54] <pushkaraj> James147: this is the modified command referring to kde1 -> cmake ../kate -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=fulldebug -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/kde1/usr
[17:55] <pushkaraj> this way the cmake is completed, but there are warnings 
[17:56] <James147> pushkaraj: what I tend to do is: "git clone ..." then "cd kate" then "mkdir build && cd build" then "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/kde1/usr" then "make && make install"
[17:56] <pushkaraj> this is the output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/474594/
[17:56] <James147> pushkaraj: sorry, add a .. to the end of the cmake
[17:56] <pushkaraj> yes thats what i did but in 'kde1' folder instead of 'kde'
[17:57] <pushkaraj> np
[17:57] <James147> pushkaraj: try doing it without the -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=fulldebug
[17:58] <pushkaraj> the output pasted at - http://paste.ubuntu.com/474594/ are some of the last lines printed, which has the warning
[17:58] <pushkaraj> check if that is okey?
[17:58] <pushkaraj> till that time let me try without fulldebug
[17:59] <pushkaraj> without the fulldebug is also successful, but with the same warnings which came up with the fulldebug :)
[18:01] <James147> pushkaraj: should be safe to ignore them if you follow the rest of the instruction on that page
[18:09] <pushkaraj> James147: thanks James!! you made my weekend today I can sleep with satisfication!
[18:10] <pushkaraj> James147: I was trying this from last 3 days
[18:36] <sheytan> Hey guys
[18:36] <sheytan> i can't run update-notifier-kde
[18:36] <sheytan> it wasn't installed, so i installed it, but still command not found :D
[18:36] <sheytan> lucid here
[18:37] <yofel> sheytan: tried dpkg -L update-notifier-kde to see where the executable is? maybe it's in /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/
[18:38] <shadeslayer> kdepim is such a PITA :/
[18:38] <sheytan> yofel there even isn't a exec
[18:38] <pushkaraj> yofel: what is update-notifier-kde used for?
[18:38] <shadeslayer> it builds in clean chroot but not in cowbuilder
[18:39] <yofel> sheytan: oh, from the description: " This is a dummy package to help with upgrades, and can be safely removed."
[18:39] <sheytan> yofel can this be becouse i removed kpk?
[18:40] <yofel> might be, I think kpk is supposed to handle updates nowadays
[18:46] <pushkaraj> James147: can you do me one more favor
[18:46] <James147> pushkaraj: ?
[18:47] <pushkaraj> everything is completed as per the document - now the ./run.sh is getting exitted without starting kate
[18:47] <pushkaraj> it just says - kbuildsycoca4 running...
[18:47] <pushkaraj> thats all is printed on console
[18:47] <James147> link the page again
[18:47] <pushkaraj> http://kate-editor.org/get-it/
[18:49] <James147> pushkaraj: are you running the scrip via "./run.sh kate"?
[18:49] <pushkaraj> nope should i?
[18:49] <sheytan> yofel this sucks :D I can't get it to work
[18:49] <James147> yes
[18:49] <sheytan> update-manager-kde and update-notifier-kde dont have exec
[18:49] <pushkaraj> what does @@ mean?
[18:50] <pushkaraj> $@ * sorry
[18:50] <James147> pushkaraj: or at the end of the script type the location of kate you want to run
[18:50] <sheytan> is there a way to upgrade to maveric from terminal?
[18:50] <yofel> sheytan: actually I don't think they even exist anymore, iirc kpk handles the notification
[18:50] <maco> sudo do-release-upgrade --d
[18:50] <maco> er
[18:50] <maco> -d
[18:50] <pushkaraj> James147: hmm okey so they are the command line parameters .. 
[18:50] <pushkaraj> ok
[18:51] <yofel> JontheEchidna might know more 
[18:51] <sheytan> maco thank you :)
[18:51] <pushkaraj> James147 rocks!! it worked like charm
[18:55] <pushkaraj> James147: the page says - to run - ~/kde/run.sh kate
[18:55] <pushkaraj> James147: I didnot read it properly, my bad
[19:12] <sheytan> Hey, will we have bluedevil with the kde 4.5 upgrade for lucid?
[19:13] <Riddell> bluedevil isn't part of the software compilation
[19:19] <sheytan> Riddell but it's a default bluetooth stack for kde
[19:19] <sheytan> i think you should package it :)
[19:19] <sheytan> would be cool :)
[19:32] <ScottK> sheytan: It's just been uploaded to Debian and we'll sync it from there.
[19:32] <ScottK> Speaking of which...
[19:32] <sheytan> ScottK thaaaaaaank you :D
[19:32] <ScottK> Riddell: did you sync libbluedevel?
[19:36] <shadeslayer> ScottK: probably stuck in new if he syncd it :D
[19:40] <DarkwingDuck> ScottK: Got out yesterday. :)
[19:46] <Riddell> ScottK: yes
[19:46] <ScottK> Riddell: Cool.
[19:46] <ScottK> bluedevil itself is still in New I think.
[19:46] <Riddell> ScottK: although libbluedevel's packaging is modified from upstream because the packager mistook the licencing
[19:47] <ScottK> Hopefully that'll get fixed by him soonish then.
[19:47] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: pong
[19:48] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: bug 614610 could you review?
[19:48] <JontheEchidna> sure
[19:48] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: please leave a message/comment, I'm going out. thanks!
[19:51] <shadeslayer> ^ forgot to thank him there
[19:51] <shadeslayer> i was supposed to do that :(
[20:23] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: any idea why digikam pulls in konqueror along with it?
[20:24] <JontheEchidna> kipi-plugins recommends it
[20:25] <shadeslayer> why? 0_o
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> one of its plugins needs KHTML
[20:26] <shadeslayer> ohh i see
[20:26] <JontheEchidna> bug 349955
[20:26] <JontheEchidna> for the whole story
[20:26] <JontheEchidna> bbl
[20:28] <shadeslayer> ohh 
[20:28] <shadeslayer> thanks