| mars | lifeless, hey, still around? | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| lifeless | yeah | 00:04 |
| mars | lifeless, I have a minute or two. What's up? | 00:05 |
| mars | lifeless, we had a bunch of discussion today about the qa-shepherd thing - cut the scope down again, it should be ready sooner than what we expected before | 00:08 |
| mars | lifeless, now that we have done that, I can send you that email update you asked for | 00:10 |
| lifeless | mars: I was offering to dive in and help | 00:11 |
| lifeless | mars: rather than a status update | 00:12 |
| mars | lifeless, well, now we have the scope down to where the three of us have to worry about stepping on each-other's toes :) | 00:12 |
| lifeless | nice | 00:13 |
| mars | lifeless, thank you for the offer, I'll keep it in mind. I think we'll be fine for the first few days of next week. | 00:14 |
| lifeless | ok cool | 00:14 |
| lifeless | (I don't do 'status update requests' unless I -really- can't help it - just for clarity :) | 00:15 |
| mtaylor | lifeless: shouldn't you be on saturday? | 00:15 |
| lifeless | yes | 00:15 |
| mars | lifeless, makes sense :D | 00:15 |
| mars | mtaylor, it's not Saturday here, and he asked first :) | 00:15 |
| mtaylor | weird PPA build issue- only shows up on i386 lucid builder: | 00:15 |
| mtaylor | dpkg-deb: parse error, in file 'debian/drizzle/DEBIAN/control' near line 6 package 'drizzle': | 00:15 |
| mtaylor | `Depends' field, reference to `drizzle-server': version contains ` ' | 00:15 |
| mtaylor | mars: hehe. his fault then | 00:16 |
| lifeless | mars: so generally the fastest way to make something go faster is to help :- which is why I offered ;> | 00:16 |
| mtaylor | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53201197/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.drizzle_2010.08.1683-1ubuntu1~lucid0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz in case anyone wants to look | 00:16 |
| lifeless | mars: still around? | 00:23 |
| mars | lifeless, yep, thinking | 00:23 |
| lifeless | mars: so if there isn't anything sensible I can hop in and do; don't bother mailing me ;) | 00:24 |
| mars | lifeless, sound fair to me. | 00:24 |
| mars | sounds even | 00:25 |
| mars | need to run again | 00:25 |
| mars | lifeless, I'll ping you back with specifics if I get a moment back at the keys | 00:26 |
| mars | lifeless, at the keys, if you are still there, skype? | 00:44 |
| lifeless | mars: hi | 00:48 |
| mars | lifeless, yep? | 00:48 |
| lifeless | I amhere | 00:49 |
| mars | skype? | 00:49 |
| mars | it's faster, trust me | 00:49 |
| mars | lifeless, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ursinha/qa-tagger/setuptools-conversion | 00:53 |
| mars | lifeless, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~launchpad-qa/qa-tagger/devel | 00:54 |
| mars | lifeless, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-qa/qa-shepherd/devel/annotate/head:/shepherd/testing.py | 01:13 |
| mars | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ursinha/lp-qa-tools/lplib-fakes/files | 01:17 |
| lifeless | make check working for me now :) | 01:19 |
| mars | lifeless, btw, feel free to move the cards on the board if you get a chance to hack on something. That way we can pick or pass the work on Monday morning. | 01:24 |
| mars | "we" being those of us on the opposite side of the planet from you :) | 01:25 |
| lifeless | :) | 01:38 |
| cody-somerville | How can you tell when its more efficient to do separate queries and when its more efficient to just do a single query with joins | 23:26 |
| cody-somerville | ? | 23:26 |
| lifeless | the science of measurement | 23:27 |
| lifeless | also some context will help | 23:27 |
| lifeless | there are places where its always better to do it one way or another. | 23:27 |
| lifeless | e.g. per-object queries in an iterator for an api or web page -> always want one query ('build the table of data to show') | 23:28 |
| lifeless | this is a scaling question - ask yourself what happens when you have BigN (e.g. 400 people on one page) | 23:28 |
| cody-somerville | I was just wondering if there was a quick and easy way to tell... like look at the output of EXPLAIN and look for this or that. | 23:29 |
| wgrant | When's it going to be better to do multiple queris? | 23:29 |
| cody-somerville | re: buildd-master failure, 2010-08-07 23:26:24+0100 [-] exceptions.AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'email' | 23:32 |
| lifeless | cody-somerville: where do you get access to that ? | 23:33 |
| lifeless | escalating to phone. | 23:33 |
| wgrant | cody-somerville: Thanks. | 23:33 |
| wgrant | cody-somerville: Is there something before that indicating which build it's trying to send a failure message about? | 23:34 |
| lifeless | wgrant: different domain lookups that aren't related to each other | 23:34 |
| cody-somerville | 2010-08-07 23:26:24+0100 [-] Starting templates build trunk-3771906 for lp:docky. | 23:34 |
| cody-somerville | 2010-08-07 23:26:24+0100 [-] startBuild(Lucid, daily, gnome-terminator (on http://doubah.ppa:8221/)) | 23:34 |
| cody-somerville | 2010-08-07 23:26:24+0100 [-] Scanning failed with: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'email' | 23:34 |
| cody-somerville | lifeless, devpad | 23:34 |
| wgrant | Aha. | 23:35 |
| lifeless | cody-somerville: where - /srv/ somewher e? | 23:35 |
| * wgrant prepares the SQL. | 23:35 | |
| cody-somerville | lifeless, /srv/launchpad.net-logs/soyuz/cesium/buildd-manager.log in this case, yea | 23:35 |
| lifeless | cody-somerville: thanks | 23:35 |
| lifeless | elmo will be around shortly | 23:36 |
| elmo | 23:36 | |
| cody-somerville | wgrant, would having a launchpad admin set a preferred e-mail address for the requester work? | 23:36 |
| wgrant | cody-somerville: It might, but we could also just suspend the build to preserve the evidence. | 23:36 |
| lifeless | suspend it please | 23:36 |
| lifeless | we need to fix root causes | 23:36 |
| cody-somerville | I've ran into this issue myself with scripts that use the launchpadlib | 23:39 |
| cody-somerville | I had assumed that every user had preferred email address I could grab. | 23:39 |
| wgrant | elmo: SELECT * FROM buildqueue, job, branchjob WHERE buildqueue.id = 3771906 AND job.id = buildqueue.job AND branchjob.job = job.id; | 23:39 |
| cody-somerville | Part of the issue is that you have to get the actual e-mail address from an attribute on the user that doesn't exist if there is no preferred e-mail address available | 23:41 |
| wgrant | (I really don't know why a translations job dispatch would be trying to acesss an email address) | 23:41 |
| cody-somerville | wgrant, its a recipe build thats causing it to die | 23:41 |
| cody-somerville | wgrant, line 66 lib/lp/code/model/recipebuilder.py | 23:41 |
| wgrant | Oh, recipe build logging is fucked. | 23:42 |
| cody-somerville | lifeless, are you going to own the incident report? | 23:43 |
| lifeless | cody-somerville: thanks for volunteering :) | 23:44 |
| wgrant | elmo: You should have a cancel button on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnome-terminator/+recipe/daily/+build/515 | 23:44 |
| cody-somerville | lol, alright. :P | 23:44 |
| elmo | man, seriously | 23:45 |
| elmo | this is Ng's fault? | 23:45 |
| lifeless | its a bug in translations somewhere | 23:45 |
| wgrant | No, it's not. | 23:45 |
| wgrant | The logs are just misleading. It's actually a recipe build. | 23:45 |
| elmo | wgrant: I do? | 23:45 |
| elmo | wgrant: sorry | 23:45 |
| elmo | wgrant: I do. hit it? | 23:45 |
| lifeless | wgrant: oh, grah | 23:45 |
| wgrant | elmo: Please. | 23:45 |
| cody-somerville | wgrant, the recipe build belongs to Ng | 23:46 |
| lifeless | anyhow, bug, not user error, right ? | 23:46 |
| wgrant | lifeless: The first two lines of that log that cody-somerville pasted are equivalent, but for different job types. Yay for consistency. | 23:46 |
| wgrant | cody-somerville: It is, yes. | 23:46 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Right. | 23:46 |
| elmo | wgrant: done | 23:46 |
| cody-somerville | wgrant, sorry, misread you | 23:46 |
| wgrant | We're 20 seconds in... let's see if it sticks. | 23:47 |
| wgrant | Apparently not. | 23:48 |
| wgrant | Is there another build appearing in the logs now? | 23:50 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 23:50 |
| wgrant | The other two builds are now at the head of the queue. | 23:51 |
| elmo | 2010-08-07 23:50:38+0100 [-] startBuild(Maverick, daily, gnome-terminator (on http://muntries.ppa:8221/)) | 23:51 |
| elmo | 2010-08-07 23:50:38+0100 [-] Scanning failed with: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'email' | 23:51 |
| wgrant | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnome-terminator/+recipe/daily/+build/516 and https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnome-terminator/+recipe/daily/+build/517 need destruction. | 23:51 |
| wgrant | Yep. | 23:51 |
| elmo | done | 23:51 |
| wgrant | 40 seconds in. Looking good. | 23:53 |
| elmo | I'm tailing the log looking for noe | 23:53 |
| elmo | noNe | 23:53 |
| elmo | will this happen again tomorrow? | 23:53 |
| wgrant | Possibly. | 23:54 |
| elmo | awesome | 23:54 |
| wgrant | The API won't tell me who requested them :( | 23:54 |
| wgrant | Hmm. | 23:55 |
| wgrant | I guess it probably uses the recipe owner for daily builds. | 23:56 |
| wgrant | So it might be a good idea to disable daily builds of that recipe for now, or it will indeed happen again tomorrow. | 23:56 |
| elmo | do you know the url for that offhand? | 23:56 |
| elmo | or even pointers to it | 23:57 |
| wgrant | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnome-terminator/+recipe/daily/+edit | 23:57 |
| wgrant | There should be a checkbox. | 23:57 |
| elmo | WTF | 23:57 |
| elmo | that says *I'm* the owner | 23:57 |
| wgrant | Oh no, not that bug... | 23:57 |
| elmo | that's either an awesome troll by Ng or an epic UI bug in LP | 23:57 |
| wgrant | It's a known bug, yes. | 23:57 |
| wgrant | Either find someone in the team to do it, or just twiddle the flag manually. | 23:58 |
| elmo | manually == SQL? | 23:58 |
| wgrant | Yeah. | 23:58 |
| * elmo rolls his eyes | 23:58 | |
| wgrant | Sorry :( | 23:58 |
| elmo | it's not your code | 23:58 |
| elmo | (I assume) | 23:58 |
| wgrant | Heh, no. | 23:59 |
| wgrant | And we have logtails... so everything's working again for now. Thanks. | 23:59 |
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