[00:00] <phillw> Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg".
[00:01] <arlbee> I will try that Phill & come back
[00:09] <arlbee> I logged in on a text screen, then run what you said, it asked me for root pwd, then it didn't seem to do anything, at least no further text was displayed other than it going back to the $prompt......should I try to reboot ?
[00:13] <phillw> arlbee: if you have been asked for your password, and no  errors have been reported, I'd go for the re-boot; just please bear in mind that I'm not guaranteeing that will sort it for you (it should, but I've never used it).
[00:14] <arlbee> I just rebooted but it is still the same as before.....I am really stuck
[00:15] <phillw> hmm, let me have a look, you may need to remove the exisiting file and force it to make a new one... It will take a few minutes for me to get the instructions for that.
[00:16] <arlbee> Thanks.....I appreciate any assistance
[00:21] <phillw> arlbee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457616 has details on re-creatig the xorg file, that is along the lines of what I recall about things. The guys and gals over at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 would be better able to help you (the stickie is a good one to read) if you explain your problem there, they are far more up to speed on video matters.
[00:25] <arlbee> Thanks Phillw....I will read up & try
[00:26] <phillw> I'm sorry, but I am not a graphics card person. the people on that sub-forum certainly are though :-)
[01:49] <edlik> Please help, some of my usb ports appear to be not working
[02:16] <timh> hi.  my pager (window list manager on the lower panel) quit paging.  It is locked on Desk 1.
[02:19] <stlsaint> timh: try restarting gdm (or whatever DE you have)
[07:37] <darren__> how do you grab email from one ubuntu partition into the new one , ie. old ubuntu was 9.10 updated to 10.04 and i have just installed 10.04 from live cd. in install it only asks if you want to import from windoZe partition not other ubuntu or slackware partitions
[07:38] <darren__> bloody touchpad , i want to import emails from old ubuntu to new installed one
[07:40] <hobgoblin> with evolutiion you can do a backup then import that, t-bird you can copy the folder in /home
[07:41] <hobgoblin> possibly you can copy the evolution folder as well but I don't use it
[07:41] <darren__> ah cheers, i know how to backup and install, will do that
[07:42] <darren__> is there anywhere i can get a tutorial on config. and use of ORCA speech
[07:45] <hobgoblin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility http://live.gnome.org/Orca
[07:45] <hobgoblin> what do you mean by config?
[07:58] <darren__> setting voices that are easy to listen to,speed of voice, what get read, especially internet pages, what programs it works in etc
[08:01] <hobgoblin> oic - I can't help much with that then - check the links and/or wait for someone else
[08:01] <phillw> darren__: there is an accessibily sub area on the main forum at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=145 there is also a mailing list for them
[08:03] <phillw> the mailing list is ubuntu-accessibility.lists.ubuntu.com  although I would think you need to join ( I am a member of it, so if you need help doing so, please ask).
[08:05] <phillw> btw, good morning hobgoblin :-)
[08:06] <hobgoblin> morning phillw
[08:06] <IdleOne> darren__: #ubuntu-accessibility is also a good place for help with orca I believe
[08:07] <IdleOne> darren__: may or may not be active depending on time zone
[08:07] <hobgoblin> darren__: there you go - loads of people springing out of the woodowor :)
[08:08] <IdleOne> I just checked the channel does not have many users but I know that the team is actively working
[08:09]  * phillw there are excellent resources for accessibilty, it just may take a little while to get answers
[08:11] <darren__> sorry guys yer im still here was doing google search on topic
[08:13] <hobgoblin> it's ok this isn't some instant messenger thingy :)
[08:14] <phillw> darren__: the link to the sub-forum would be a good place to start ^^^
[08:15] <darren__> #ubuntu-accessibility, is that what you mean phillw
[08:17] <darren__>  ubuntu-accessibility.lists.ubuntu.com  - is this a webpage,  because i get server not found error
[08:20] <phillw> darren__: give me a moment
[08:21] <phillw> darren__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility
[08:31] <darren__> heh cheers phillw, i appreciate it, sometimes navigating around planet ubuntu is daunting
[08:33] <IdleOne> ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com I believe is the email list
[08:33] <IdleOne> that wiki page just above probably has a link to sign up
[08:35] <IdleOne> with that I bid you all a good whatever time zone appropriate greeting :)
[08:36] <hobgoblin> cya IdleOne
[08:38] <phillw> IdleOne: from that page you will get in contact with them, I'm not that active on it but do keep a check and interact with it http://forum.phillw.net/viewforum.php?f=14 holds my views
[10:51] <marcr> hey i havea problem trying to format my new external hard drive to fat32 so i can use it on my ps3, i can see the device in g parted but i am unable to select format, i tried to unmount the drive but the doesn't work, when i click the file sys that says ntfs, it tells me it cannot find the mount point, anyone know of a fix or what i have done wrong
[10:56] <phillw> marcr: does gparted report back that it cannot access it?
[11:00] <marcr> phillw warning
[11:00] <marcr> unable to find mountpoint
[11:00] <marcr> unable to read the contents of this filesystem!
[11:00] <marcr> because of this some operations may be unavailable.
[11:00] <marcr> this is all i get, the unmount optsion is available but not the format
[11:04] <phillw> hmmm, what does
[11:04] <phillw> sudo fdisk -l
[11:04] <phillw> report?
[11:05] <phillw> !pastebin
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[11:05] <phillw> !pastebinint
[11:05] <ubot2> Factoid 'pastebinint' not found
[11:08] <marcr> ok really dumb question do i need to acesses the HDD in the termial
[11:09] <phillw> if the hard drive is connected up, then fdisk -l should "see it"
[11:09] <phillw> possibly as /dev/sdb at the start of it
[11:10] <marcr> got it
[11:10] <phillw> now issue
[11:10] <phillw> df
[11:10] <phillw> is it on that list also?
[11:10] <marcr> yeah it is
[11:10] <marcr> huh
[11:10] <marcr> command df?
[11:11] <phillw> df - report file system disk space usage
[11:11] <phillw> df only reports back for areas that are mounted, the sudo fdisk -l digs a bit further
[11:12] <marcr> i have def sda1 and def sdf1
[11:12] <phillw> sdf would be a boot device?
[11:13] <marcr> no it's the iomega HDD
[11:13] <phillw> was it plugged in when you booted your computer?
[11:14] <phillw> booted == started / turned on
[11:14] <marcr> i was but has be disconnected and reconnect since
[11:14] <marcr> i know boot lol
[11:14] <phillw> okay, when you plug it in, the system should ask to mount it.
[11:15] <marcr> ok should i reboot and plug it in after?
[11:15] <phillw> if you do df, you should see an entry that starts /media
[11:16] <marcr> yes it did
[11:17] <phillw> I'm not in ubuntu atm, under adminstration do you have the option "Disk Utility"?
[11:19] <marcr> yeah
[11:19] <marcr> i'm in
[11:19] <phillw> under that you should have the option to select the disk, from there you can unmount it
[11:20] <marcr> yeah, i can also format it from here by the looks, or is g parted better?
[11:20] <phillw> they are both GUI's to the same command :-)
[11:21] <marcr> :)
[11:21] <marcr> well the unmounted it
[11:21] <phillw> just make sure you choose the correct disk, linux does not do "Are you sure" ;-)
[11:21] <marcr> i have read you got to fat32 and keep all the files
[11:22] <marcr> is that true
[11:22] <phillw> marcr: hey i havea problem trying to format my new external hard drive to fat32
[11:22] <phillw> when you press "nuke the drive" it will do
[11:23] <phillw> ahh, you want to format it for ps3?
[11:23] <marcr> yes
[11:23]  * phillw slow
[11:23] <marcr> i put my media on already
[11:23] <phillw> give me a moment, my drive came ps3 ready
[11:23] <marcr> not knowing ps3 didn't do ntfs
[11:24] <marcr> just might save me a few hour if i can do it
[11:25] <marcr> my computer is a dinosaur
[11:26] <phillw> marcr: I've got some really bad news for you
[11:26] <phillw> The latest firmware upgrade for the bios apparently prevents any operating systems (such as Ubuntu) from being installed. So please avoid getting the new bios
[11:26] <phillw> So, I'm going to have to a bit of digging
[11:27] <marcr> yeah already did it, i just want to play the media on it thorough the ps3
[11:28] <marcr> i read that i need the file format to be fat32
[11:29] <phillw> marcr: I'm reading something far more scary :-\  http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/702626
[11:31] <phillw> but, it does discuss things. If you do not any joy on there, I can only suggest you ask over on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=93
[11:32] <marcr> i saw that but didn't get to far down the page, my label has a space also
[11:33] <marcr> i will just nuke the bugger
[11:34] <phillw> marcr: My new drive was "ps3" compliant *what ever that means*, from the bit I've read if it is fat32 formatted, when you plug it into your ps3, it will ask to reformat it.
[11:36] <marcr> ergh, well i can only muck around with it some more, you got me thru the format roadblock tho, i'm doing that now
[11:37] <marcr> would you like to know how it goes?
[11:37] <marcr> hmmm, a terrabyte will take some time huh?
[11:40] <phillw> I'd recommend you head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=93 I needed a new 2.5" drive and it came "PS3 ready", yeah, like I needed that - I just turned it into linux, you want to do the opposite thing :-)
[11:41] <phillw> marcr: I'd be delighted to know how you get on, but I'd really suggest you ask on that area of the forum
[11:43]  * phillw just a librarian, point people to the area of knowledge that they need. :-D
[11:45] <marcr> yeah, forum just take so long and i normally get few conficting solution, which lead to an online fight lol but i'll give it a crack if this doesn't work thank you phillw been an awesome help
[11:46] <phillw> that area I pointed you to, should be okay
[11:49] <phillw> good morning hobgoblin, i don't suppose you know of any PS3 people who are about this time of day?
[11:50] <marcr> ok interesting i put 1 video on it looks like i'll be on the forum, it now see the hdd but does not see the video
[11:50] <hobgoblin> phillw: nope sorry
[11:52] <phillw> marcr: you're going to have to hit the forum area. Sorry I cannot walk you through it, my knowledge of the way 2.5" disks and ps3 are limited to the fact that I know they work :-(
[11:53] <marcr> yeah just signing up to that one now
[11:53] <marcr> ergh gotta go afk need to get my son a dummy
[11:54] <phillw> ##ps3 exists, not sure how active it is. I'd still go for the forum.
[12:09] <phillw> hi pedro3005
[12:09] <pedro3005> hey phillw
[13:29] <_schism_> morning all
[13:29] <marcr> hello, any hdd and or ps3 experts in?
[13:31] <_schism_> can anyone help me with a small video problem? I have some movies of my kids I want to make into a dvd for the grandparents and cat seem to find a ubuntu solution that works.  devede converts it to a dvd but it doesnt burn. anyone have anywhere they can point me?
[13:31] <vangelis> anyone knows how to access recent documents (under places)?
[13:33] <hobgoblin> marcr: sorry - not me
[13:33] <hobgoblin> _schism_: I was under the impression that devede did that as well - but I will have a look
[13:34] <_schism_> hobgoblin, it looks like it does but I cant get the dvd image to burn to a dvd or even get the image to mount and play it there.  so looking for some other ideas while I am messing with devede
[13:39] <hobgoblin> _schism_: maybe pitivi - I know it is included by default now - but if you've not found these pages they might be of some help http://www.pitivi.org/ and the devede one http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[13:39] <hobgoblin> I am pretty sure that devede will do what you want - I just not used it - tbh I don't even have advd burner ;)
[13:39] <_schism_> hobgoblin, thanks I had not come accross that yet I'll go look at them now.
[13:40] <hobgoblin> vangelis: I'm not sure that you can - places is for 'places' recent documents could be in more than one 'place' I know mine are
[13:40] <_schism_> may be a setting I goofed up in devede I am still messing with it and although I have used nix for a couple f years I am a noob
[13:40] <hobgoblin> vangelis: though if your docs are all in one place you can drag that across
[13:41] <vangelis> hobgoblin: my docs are all in one place. what do you mean drag that across. I just need an easy way to access my recent docs and I was thinking to create a shortcut.
[13:42] <hobgoblin> vangelis: that is what it does - you can either bookmark - add in the nautilus toolbar or if they are in a folder for instance drag the folder to the left where into places
[13:43] <vangelis> yes, but I don't just want them under places. I want them under recent documents (which is under places). does this make sense?
[13:44] <hobgoblin> yes - not sure you can do that
[13:44] <vangelis> hobgoblin:yes, but I don't just want them under places. I want them under recent documents (which is under places). does this make sense?
[13:44] <hobgoblin> different places - I was talking about the sidebar in nautilus
[13:45] <vangelis> hobgoblin:yes, but recent documents have to be stored somewhere, no?
[13:47] <vangelis> hobgoblin:from my so far search, they are stored in ./recently-used.xbel
[13:48] <hobgoblin> if they are then create a shortcut
[13:49] <hobgoblin> mmm - not here they aren't
[13:50] <hobgoblin> I lied
[13:50] <hobgoblin> not sure that file will be much help
[13:50] <vangelis> hobgoblin:that's what I want to do. but I can't find the file :S
[13:51] <hobgoblin> it's .recently-used.xbel
[13:51] <hobgoblin> in home
[13:52] <vangelis> hobgoblin:lol...it's supposed to be, but it's just not there :(
[13:52] <hobgoblin> so you want to duplicate the recent docs you can see in the menu in nautilus
[13:52] <vangelis> hobgoblin:in a way, yes!!
[13:52] <hobgoblin> vangelis: you're one ./recently-used.xbel has a /
[13:53] <hobgoblin> but regardless I am not sure that file will be of any help
[13:53] <vangelis> hobgoblin:I'm using nautilus and go to home and trying to find it. on command prompt, it won't let me access it
[13:55] <hobgoblin> if the docs are in one place I would make that a bookmark - I don't know otherwise
[13:56] <vangelis> hobgoblin:OK. thanks very much anyway :)
[13:57] <hobgoblin> it might be hard coded into nautilus - in which case you'd need to fiddle with the code I guess
[16:25] <merge> hi! Is there a way to turn off/on the sound of specific programs? iow I want to have sound in Empathy but sowhere else.
[16:26] <merge> When I use the "no sounds" profile, can I turn the sounds for Empathy on?
[16:32] <IdleOne> hmm I think you want to keep the sound on system wide and  turn it off per application
[16:35] <merge> that would be fine when I can turn off the ubuntu login sound as well
[16:37] <IdleOne> I see what you are saying, the login manager at this point lacks features
[16:38] <IdleOne> sorry don't know what else to offer as a solution.
[16:49] <shpongle> merge, to turn off the login sound you can use Ubuntu Tweak
[16:56] <FenBo> tried to start phpmyadmin got this: Not Found  The requested URL /phpmyadmin/ was not found on this server. Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80   ... when i look at config.inc.php ii is empty. How do I setup phpmyadmin?
[19:13] <John__> Hi there
[19:16] <Schrodingerscat1> hello?
[19:18] <shpongle> Schrodingerscat1, hey there
[19:18] <Schrodingerscat1> Super noob question here, do you mind?
[19:18] <shpongle> Schrodingerscat1, i can surely try :)
[19:19] <IdleOne> hello Schrodingerscat1
[19:20] <shpongle> Schrodingerscat1, you don't need to be shy or to ask for asking, just ask.. no one will laugh at you, i promise you :)
[19:20] <Schrodingerscat1> Okay, so I recently had a pc die on me, pretty sure my boot drive is corrupted. I'm trying to boot from a ubuntu 10.04 liveDVD to save some files before I either reformat it or turf the drive. When i boot from the liveDVD it shows the ubuntu logo and "scrolling dots", but then it just gets to a corrupted screen that looks like static/white noise.
[19:20] <Schrodingerscat1> I haven't md5'd the dvd, but do you think that's the problem?
[19:21] <Schrodingerscat1> or perhaps a graphics driver/GPU issue?
[19:21] <IdleOne> md5 first and make sure the image is good
[19:22] <IdleOne> also I did not know Ubuntu had Live DVD
[19:22] <Schrodingerscat1> well, i only had blank dvd's, so i found a dvd image in the "alternate downloads" section
[19:23] <Schrodingerscat1> i think it's the same thing as the live cd only with multiple languages
[19:24] <IdleOne> Schrodingerscat1: you got a link?
[19:24] <Schrodingerscat1> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[19:24] <Schrodingerscat1> scroll to the bottom
[19:27] <IdleOne> ok, well I suggest you always md5sum to start. Also believe the live cd/dvd use generic graphics drivers so that should not be an issue
[19:27] <IdleOne> I found that I get better burns when I burn at the slowest speed possible
[19:27] <Schrodingerscat1> yes, I definitely did that, but thanks for reminding me
[19:28] <Schrodingerscat1> Question though, does checking "verify" after a burn do an md5sum?
[19:28] <IdleOne> for anything more specific you could try asking in #ubuntu also
[19:28] <IdleOne> Schrodingerscat1: I don't believe so
[19:28] <IdleOne> md5 checks if the file you have is equal to the file the server has
[19:29] <Schrodingerscat1> yes, true, good point :)
[19:29] <IdleOne> so save a disc and md5 before burning :)
[19:29] <Schrodingerscat1> okay, well I think what I'll try to do is go burn a cd instead of a dvd on a separate laptop, and hope that works
[19:29] <Schrodingerscat1> and while that's happening I'll md5 this dvd just to see what happens
[19:30] <IdleOne> sounds good.
[19:30] <Schrodingerscat1> thanks very much for your time
[19:32] <IdleOne> Always feel free to ask questions anytime. you may not get an answer right away but you will never get an answer if you don't ask :)
[19:33] <Schrodingerscat1> Haha, good point. Thanks a lot, have a good day.
[20:18] <suprengr> I've this on #ubuntu but no reply, so trying here [especially as the likes of ikonia appear to be here atm]... Anyone got any thoughts re Firestarter vs. GUFW? .. reason for asking is that I've heard 'rumours' re Firestarter's insecurity?  Although I now use GUFW I really did like the capabilties of Firestater and would love tob switch back... if safe.
[20:19] <suprengr> *to switch
[20:20] <aveilleux> suprengr, As far as I know Firestarter and GUFW are just frontends to the same firewall
[20:20] <aveilleux> suprengr, I could be wrong though
[20:21] <IdleOne> they are both frontends to iptables
[20:22] <suprengr> I know they both config iptables but FS gave so much more as well... then there were rumours re FS being hackable?
[20:22] <pleia2> gufw is a front end for ubuntu fireweall (ufw) which is a pretty common things these days
[20:22] <IdleOne> use which ever you like, keep updated and you should be fine
[20:22] <pleia2> I don't know about firestarter
[20:22] <suprengr> hi there idleone
[20:23] <IdleOne> hey
[20:23] <suprengr> 3rd time you've offered me help/opion.... thanks
[20:23] <IdleOne> heh I try
[20:23] <pleia2> suprengr: I'd recommending using gufw simply because it's the more common/supported one in the community
[20:23] <pleia2> recommend
[20:24] <IdleOne> I would go with pleia2's recommendation seeing how she is just awesome
[20:24] <IdleOne> like a Rock Star
[20:24] <IdleOne> but more cool
[20:24] <IdleOne> with less glitter
[20:24] <IdleOne> lol
[20:24] <pleia2> oh, "ufw" is "uncomplicated firewall"
[20:24] <pleia2> well, it's the one ubuntu uses anyway :)
[20:24] <suprengr> pleia2 IdleOne : ok, cool - will do
[20:24] <pleia2> I don't use either :\
[20:25] <IdleOne> me either
[20:25] <IdleOne> hack me all you want all you will find is pictures of my babies
[20:25] <suprengr> ..butn who uses glitter, hu?
[20:25] <suprengr> *huh
[20:26] <pleia2> well, on my firewall I just write the iptables
[20:26] <pleia2> and on my netbook I just don't run services, so there isn't much *to* break into
[20:26] <pleia2> s/services/external services
[20:28] <slidinghorn> same here -- nothing worth stealing  -- kinda like my apt
[20:28] <slidinghorn> but I still protect my apartment ;-)
[20:29] <pleia2> I don't have stuff worth stealing, just have multiple networks at home and a VPN to work so I need to route my traffic appropriately
[20:29] <pleia2> (this is what happens with a work-from-home sysadmin and a network engineer live together)
[20:30] <IdleOne> heh
[20:30] <suprengr> :-D
[20:30] <IdleOne> So before you moved in you two sat down and had to figure out the network situation?
[20:31] <pleia2> IdleOne: yeah
[20:31] <pleia2> there is a diagram
[20:31] <IdleOne> Your packets are getting in my way!!!
[20:31] <pleia2> I don't want to go out on your reverse dns!
[20:35] <shahan> Is there any one who have downloaded the file directx_feb2010_redist.exe
[20:35] <shahan> ?
[20:35] <shahan> how MegaByte is the file is?
[20:38] <aveilleux> shahan, the DirectX Redistributable package from Microsoft? Why do you ask?
[20:39] <shahan> aveilleux: I wanna install it in wine...
[20:39] <aveilleux> shahan, use Winetricks to install it
[20:39] <shahan> aveilleux: ya... I am installing this....
[20:39] <aveilleux> http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[20:39] <shahan> aveilleux: directx_feb2010_redist.exe is downloading for a long time....
[20:40] <aveilleux> shahan, I don't know how large it is. Wget should tell you.
[20:40] <shahan> aveilleux: not finishing yet... already downloaded 40 MB
[20:40] <shahan> aveilleux: how to ask Wget?
[20:40] <aveilleux> shahan, It should be somewhere around 150 MB iirc
[20:41] <squaregoldfish> shahan: 104Mb
[20:41] <squaregoldfish> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0CEF8180-E94A-4F56-B157-5AB8109CB4F5&displaylang=en
[20:41] <shahan> squaregoldfish: hmm
[20:42] <shahan> squaregoldfish: tnx
[20:42] <shahan> aveilleux: tnx
[20:43] <shahan> It has downloaded 45.5 MB
[20:43] <shahan> already
[20:43] <shahan> If I now turn off my PC, will it be paused or cancelex
[20:43] <shahan> canceled?
[20:44] <squaregoldfish> shahan: Assuming the server supports it, wget will pick up where it left off. Check the man page to see if you should pass it any special flags, but I don't think so.
[20:44] <squaregoldfish> (Assuming you're using wget, that is...)
[20:46] <voxyn> Hello
[20:46] <squaregoldfish> Hello
[20:46] <voxyn> I understand that here are all the linux geeks to help you :P?
[20:46] <squaregoldfish> Some of them - just ask a question and if we know we'll answer
[20:47] <voxyn> Well i'm installing ubuntu dekstop on my netbook currently but it is possible to switch between the netbook remix skin and the normal ubuntu enviroment?
[20:50] <aveilleux> Voxyn, Not that I know of
[20:51] <shahan> squaregoldfish: I am using winetricks to download the directx_feb2010_redist.exe
[20:52] <shahan> squaregoldfish: and downloaded the winetricks by wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
[20:52] <shahan> wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
[20:53] <suprengr> squaregoldfish: it was included / tried in UNR 9.x... useful if not often used..; now [appaently] dropped.
[20:56] <suprengr> very sorry squaregoldfish wrong tab - daughter got to the keyboard
[20:57] <suprengr> voxyn:  it was included / tried in UNR 9.x... useful if not often used..; now [appaently] dropped.
[21:00] <squaregoldfish> shahan: I think you'll be OK. The script is set up to continue previous downloads. It should also skip any files you've already downloaded :)
[21:08] <voxyn> Thanks for hte help anyway ;0
[21:45] <Schrodingerscat1> Hi everyone, question
[21:47] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1, maybe answer
[21:47] <Schrodingerscat1> Thanks!
[21:48] <Schrodingerscat1> I recently burned a 10.04 live cd, and I can't get it to work
[21:48] <Schrodingerscat1> I did an md5sum of the iso and the cd after I burned it, both of them checked out
[21:48] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Define "Can't get it to work"
[21:48] <Schrodingerscat1> haha, yes, that would be useful wouldn't it?
[21:49] <Schrodingerscat1> so, the livecd starts up, i see the ubuntu text/logo and loading bar beneath it, but then it just goes to a screen that looks like lines of white noise and static
[21:50] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: What speed did you burn the disc at?
[21:50] <Schrodingerscat1> 4x
[21:50] <Schrodingerscat1> I made sure to do it very slowly
[21:51] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Do you have another computer to test the disc in?
[21:51] <Schrodingerscat1> I do, which I was thinking of doing next, but it is a mac
[21:52] <Schrodingerscat1> so i'm not sure this helps me isolate what the problem is necessarily, although I guess it could tell me if my cd is good
[21:53] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Is it an Intel mac?
[21:53] <Schrodingerscat1> Yes it is
[21:53] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Then it'll work to test
[21:54] <Schrodingerscat1> Okay then. Well, it's the computer I'm currently using, so i'll have to log off to test it. What do you think could be the problem with the pc if it works on my mac?
[21:54] <Schrodingerscat1> some sort of video driver issue?
[21:54] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Not sure. I get that sometimes when I boot up on my Thinkpad (HDD install), so try again?
[21:55] <Schrodingerscat1> Mmm. I haven't actually done a full install, this is just booting straight from the cd
[21:56] <Schrodingerscat1> I think my HDD is failing though, hence trying to use the live cd to dump the files off it before i format the drive
[21:56] <Schrodingerscat1> would that affect it?
[21:56] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Probably not.
[21:56] <Schrodingerscat1> That's what I thought. Such an odd issue.
[21:56] <bobo123> I think the ubuntu-cd should work ok even if your harddisk goes completetly dead
[21:57] <Schrodingerscat1> Yeah that's what i thought
[21:57] <Schrodingerscat1> I guess I'll try it on my mac and see what happens
[21:57] <Schrodingerscat1> I'll probably be back :P
[21:57] <bobo123> ok
[21:57] <Schrodingerscat1> Thanks a lot guys, appreciate your help
[22:26] <aveilleux> How did it go?
[22:26] <Schrodingerscat1> Well, the cd seems to work perfectly on my laptop
[22:26] <Schrodingerscat1> but I still get booting to the corrupted screen right after the "Try ubuntu" selection on the pc
[22:27] <Schrodingerscat1> (Laptop = mac)
[22:27] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Could be a video driver issue
[22:27] <Schrodingerscat1> Yes, i was thinking that
[22:27] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Realized that :P
[22:27] <Schrodingerscat1> but it's a pretty mainstream nvidia card
[22:27] <Schrodingerscat1> anything I could do to overcome this?
[22:29] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Hm, not sure. On the disc, can you set it to safe graphics mode?
[22:29] <Schrodingerscat1> interesting, is there a specific set of boot parameters for that?
[22:29] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: I don't have a liveCD right now, so I don't know the procedures
[22:29] <Schrodingerscat1> argh, let me prowl the wiki
[22:29] <aveilleux> schrodingerscat1: Give me a minute, I have fast Internet. I can get the ISO and look at it in VBox
[22:29] <Schrodingerscat1> Thanks so much :D
[22:30] <aveilleux> schrodingerscat1: (after exiting BioShock on the other computer xD )
[22:30] <Schrodingerscat1> lol, such a great game
[22:32] <Schrodingerscat1> This is the page I was looking at, fyi
[22:32] <Schrodingerscat1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootParameters
[22:32] <Schrodingerscat1> I tried replacing quiet splash, and this way it let me watch the loading process with a lot of text readout for a minute or so, but it still ended up at the corrupted screen after that
[22:35] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: There's a way to boot into safe graphics mode (generic driver) without manually modifying the boot parameters. Let me boot into the LiveCD and see.....
[22:35] <Schrodingerscat1> okay, thanks very much
[22:45] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: Apparently safe-graphics-mode is no longer available on the 10.04 LiveCD... I can't imagine why, though
[22:45] <Schrodingerscat1> nooooooo
[22:45] <Schrodingerscat1> odd
[22:46] <Schrodingerscat1> well then. Any other suggestions?
[22:47] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: I seem to have found a solution: http://my.opera.com/sjosul/blog/2010/05/14/ubuntu-10-04-installation-and-upgrade
[22:48] <Schrodingerscat1> Oh wow, i see this comment: Anonymous writes: 100% agree with the easier way being left in... I have this same problem with an Nvidia card in my desktop. The last few years livecds have *all* crashed without using safe graphics mode.
[22:48] <Schrodingerscat1> i also have an Nvidia card
[22:48] <Schrodingerscat1> could be the problem
[22:48] <Schrodingerscat1> let me try
[22:53] <Schrodingerscat1> oh wow, just got some prompts about safe graphics mode :O
[22:54] <aveilleux> Yay
[22:54]  * phillw have you tried nomodeset in grub ?
[22:54] <Schrodingerscat1> splash screen!
[22:54] <Schrodingerscat1> I have not tried nomodeset yet, no, but it looks like it's working now
[22:54] <Schrodingerscat1> desktop!
[22:55] <Schrodingerscat1> wow, aveilleux, thank you so much
[22:55] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscsat1: Thank the woman who taught me how to use Boolean logic
[22:55] <aveilleux> Schrodingerscat1: (better known as Google-fu)
[22:56]  * phillw you got to love + ;-)
[22:57] <Schrodingerscat1> hahah, yes, i could have googled it i'm sure, but being a linux newb I wouldn't have known what to look for
[22:57] <Schrodingerscat1> ugh, after all that it can't mount the hard drive I expected to be dead
[22:58] <Calbertha> Hey all. Need some help!
[22:58] <Schrodingerscat1> Going to go, thanks so much everyone
[22:59] <Calbertha> Anyone here to help me out?
[22:59] <phillw> Calbertha: just ask :-)
[22:59] <Calbertha> Oh thanks!
[22:59] <phillw> !topic
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[22:59] <Calbertha> I loaded up my machine two days ago to the message error: the symbol 'grub_device_open' not found. grub rescue>
[22:59] <Calbertha> I have no idea what to do
[22:59] <phillw> Calbertha: one moment :-0
[22:59] <phillw> :-)
[23:00] <Calbertha> Kk
[23:04] <phillw> Calbertha: is it new installation?
[23:04] <Calbertha> I installed it about a week and a half ago and its worked fine until now
[23:05] <phillw> hmm, all I can find is for old installations, do you still have your installation CD?
[23:06] <Calbertha> Yes
[23:06] <phillw> I'd go for re-installing Grub, as to what caused it, idk, but a re-installation of grub will "un-confuse it"
[23:07] <Calbertha> How do i do this?
[23:07] <phillw> #13 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[23:08] <Calbertha> Alright I'll give it a shot. Thanks! I may be back
[23:08] <phillw> you can get grub to work from the grub rescue prompt, but IMHO a re-install of grub is actually quicker :-)
[23:09] <Calbertha> Sweetness! Alright thanks a ton.May be back. Later!
[23:19] <phillw> hi stlsaint:-)
[23:19] <stlsaint> phillw: sup
[23:20] <phillw> going okay here, how's things with you?
[23:21] <stlsaint> cool
[23:28] <pedro3005> hey stlsaint
[23:29] <stlsaint> pedro3005: hey man
[23:39] <pedro3005> stlsaint, how's Python?
[23:47] <stlsaint> python is python is python :D
[23:51] <stlsaint> pedro3005: im taking a different apporach to learning
[23:52] <pedro3005> stlsaint, how so?
[23:52] <stlsaint> pedro3005: reading up on art of programming instead of just python writing
[23:54] <pedro3005> stlsaint, yeah, that's good
[23:56] <stlsaint> pedro3005: any good links you could provide
[23:58] <pedro3005> stlsaint, sure, lots. PM?
[23:58] <stlsaint> pedro3005: yep yep