[03:26] paultag: no problem :) [03:26] :) [10:28] Good Morning :) [10:34] good morning [10:40] * nigelb waves to cz [10:40] gah, czajkowski [10:40] morning duanedesign, rather frightfully early today ? [10:55] nigelb: not to bad [10:55] 5 am [10:55] why so early [10:56] i just like to get up early. [10:56] :) [13:22] hiya [13:25] nigelb: only 90%? [13:26] Pendulum: yeah. I need to go submit it. [13:26] ah [13:26] so it's all the stuff you can do now [13:26] (a) I got lazy today. (b) Every time I stepped out, it started raining. [13:26] Once I submit it, it takes like 2 weeks [13:27] I'll probably take a day off on tuesday to do it. [18:57] I wonder which blog popey was talking about [18:58] nigelb: what did he say? [18:58] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-35-year-old-with-neck-beard.html [18:58] ah, *that* one [18:58] when he said "he'd rather gouge his eyes out with a rusty spoon" [18:58] I see he removed his post/copy of it from planet Ubuntu [18:58] yeah that's been all over the ubuntu twitter/dentisphere this morning [18:59] he pasted it to the planet!? [18:59] yup [18:59] jeeez [18:59] it's been removed about an hour now or so [18:59] possibly two seeing as I've been away actually [18:59] Not really what I'd expect to read on the planet tbh [19:00] http://humphreybc.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/dude-youre-a-35-year-old-with-a-neck-beard/ was on the planet [19:03] * nigelb votes blacklisting [20:10] * vish silently removes nigelb vote ;p [20:12] popey: topyli's comment was nice and to the point! :) [20:16] popey: thanks for updating the sounder description :) [20:17] that list makes me facepalm frequently, but somehow the pedanticism of some of the members has kinda grown on me, they're such characters [21:00] great commen from zooko http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-35-year-old-with-neck-beard.html#comment-67017538 [21:13] Oh wtf [21:13] I'm a 21 year old with a neck-beard [21:13] haters gana hate [21:15] * AlanBell is now a little bit tempted to grow a neck beard [21:16] akgraner: clearly women dont count in his books we don't have beards [21:16] do it! :) [21:17] paultag: I am 35 too [21:17] Oh man! [21:17] that's perfect AlanBell! [21:18] sometimes I want to help Ben to be a better person, other times I just want to rip his arms off and slap him about with the soggy ends [21:18] AlanBell: see that;s the dad in you [21:18] help a boy grow [21:18] not all boys grow up [21:18] * czajkowski mutters [21:19] * paultag waves [21:20] http://twitter.com/humphreybc definitely leaning towards the arms option at the moment [21:44] * cjohnston cant grow a beard [21:45] I think everyone who can should turn up to UDS with a neck beard [21:45] +1 [21:45] I could try for that [21:46] Oh! And get a picture of Ben as Che on an acid wash T [21:46] neck wigs could be provided for the genetically neck-hair challenged [21:46] I found out yesterday I'm on call for a trial the entire week of UDS [21:46] and not jury duty.. to testify [21:46] boo! [21:47] I'm gonna try to get outta it since im on vacation [21:47] and its for work [22:08] heh , upstreams are pissed at that post! [22:08] not surprised [22:08] I have a neckbeard! [22:08] tbh the post was tl;dr for me [22:09] now that was removed from the planet they are questioning " i didn't see the post removed that called us (gnome icon theme maitainers) idiots " [22:09] vish: where? [22:09] had to mention the OMG and planet are on same [22:10] vish: ah, slippery slope [22:10] s/on/not [22:10] didn't he have some interview where he mentioned macking on ladies or something? [22:10] yup, that was last week [22:10] jcastro: yeah , that line was removed [22:11] classy! [22:11] jcastro: tl;dr ? [22:11] AlanBell: the gnome icons post was one of an earlier post on OMG , iirc that was joey [22:11] czajkowski: "too long; didn't read" [22:11] jcastro: ahh:) thank you [22:11] I think part of ben's problem is that he's full of hopes and dreams. [22:12] He hasn't been using linux long enough to be a beaten down piece of pulp [22:12] lol! [22:12] jcastro: It's not even that, he just is young immature and lacks cop on and respect, that post insults Many many people [22:12] jcastro: he also has another 15 years to grow a neckbeard [22:13] I don't think he'll ever grow a neckbeard [22:13] you can tell [22:14] I can see that post as being rather damaging in terms of perception of Ubuntu by upstreams [22:15] is omg!ubuntu on an ubuntu.com domain? [22:15] no [22:15] it is omgubuntu.co.uk [22:15] right [22:16] so like, why is ubuntu in the name? etc. [22:16] good question [22:16] its a fan base for Ubuntu, but not really much fo a fan when it posts shite like that [22:17] and some supporting such posts :s [22:17] czajkowski: it is an add supported publication, they are making money from it [22:17] thats even worse then :( [22:18] AlanBell: really? there was a comment from someone among them that he is not doing it for profit [22:18] right, so like would we care if it was softpedia or webupd8 or some other site without "ubuntu" in the name? [22:18] meh we can all give out about out, we all dont like it, chances of his apologising are slim and none. whats the point. [22:18] tbh I am not that bothered about OMGUbuntu as a concept, they are learning journalism on the job, slowly, and they do put out some good articles [22:19] besides, if you want more news on ubuntu you can always read plaanet fedora! [22:19] jcastro: for me, i see it as an Ubuntu member slagging off the majority of people who have developed and worked on Ubuntu and open source in rather poor taste [22:19] Ben has noticed that he gets rewarded with more readers and comments and probably add views when he posts that kind of article [22:19] czajkowski: so say something! [22:19] well, not to me [22:20] but then it will just cause more pain [22:20] I am more concerned about it being on planet.ubuntu.com as an Ubuntu member and representing the project [22:20] so you don't [22:20] (I do this all the time) [22:20] AlanBell: that is a good point [22:20] jcastro: I don't get you? [22:20] czajkowski: like, you could respond with something [22:20] AlanBell: he removed it within an hr of it being on the planet [22:20] but then there would be a retort [22:20] and then other people would retort [22:20] and then it would be even worse [22:21] jcastro: I've tried in the past to reason with ben and it didn't happen so I just gave up [22:21] yeah, that is the "don't feed the trolls" thing [22:21] czajkowski: right, so you just put him in the "done with that pile" and move on [22:21] I didn't blog it, I spoke to him in pm and meh. exactly move on build a bridge and get over it :) [22:21] czajkowski: doesn't matter so much that he removed it from the planet, he is an Ubuntu member either way [22:21] aye [22:24] I think the person zooko wrote the bext reply on the comments with the dear Ben I am a 35.... [22:24] I am 35! [22:25] so when he says on twitter about Maia Kozheva "Yeah, seriously, you should find her blog post. I just want to tell her to fuck off." I think that is kinda unacceptable [22:25] you can grow a beard :) [22:26] silverfox wrote a detailed bug report over the fonts wasn't it [22:26] lucidfox [22:26] ahh [22:26] yes [22:26] I don't see why he's upset about that bug [22:27] he's not [22:27] she is [22:27] he's upset she filed the bug [22:28] I don't see why he would care, the bug was worth it just so mark can explain why the font is what it is [22:28] (I posted the same kind of thing on her blog) [22:28] yeah [22:30] hmm, so hey [22:30] yup [22:30] z'actly [22:30] the dell store started selling desktops again [22:30] and I priced one for about $1000 USD [22:30] feck ye over in USa ye can get them! [22:30] today I find the same one in a store [22:30] with higher specs [22:30] * czajkowski can only get a mini over here [22:30] for 799, with windows 7! [22:31] ugh [22:31] so I ask if they have the 7100n in stock, of course they've never heard of it [22:31] though I think the next laptop I get will be a system 76 shipped to mate in Canada - pending I get a job of course [22:32] so basically, if I buy from their online store I am out the 500gb and 2gb that's in the store model + no ubuntu ootb [22:32] (disk and ram spec, respectively) [22:33] at least they will let you buy it [22:33] good point [22:34] did you see my conversation with them in the UK? [22:34] yea [22:34] loltastic [22:35] AlanBell: hey at least you didn't have to give them a geography lesson, she tried to tell me I was in the UK [22:35] now they only sell them over the phone, one of the guys in the UK loco phoned them up and got basically the same "you must buy windows" that I got online [22:35] I really wish other manufacturers sold with Ubuntu on them [22:35] czajkowski you are proper foreign [22:38] am I proper rebel then? [22:39] AlanBell: I'm a mixutre alright :) [22:40] bedtime reading czajkowski http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy [22:40] I've not broken any.. [22:41] jcastro: with a name like yours claiming to be a rebel is a capital offence in some countries :) [22:41] czajkowski: ireland isn't part of the UK? [22:41] IdleOne: yeah! [22:41] highvoltage: ooh. treading on dangerous ground there [22:41] * highvoltage backs off [22:41] * IdleOne grabs popcorn and watches czajkowski rip highvoltage a new one [22:42] highvoltage: I'm one of the few folks who don't mind it. I'm half English being born over there and dad is English, in fact he calls me a turn coat as I gave up british passport 12 years ago. [22:43] * czajkowski kicks highvoltage just the same [22:43] highvoltage: you can chair the next two emea board meeting just for that [22:43] :p [22:43] ouch :)