[07:40] hey folks [07:40] many familiar face in here [07:40] Hoober, how may we help you [07:41] so like [07:41] this support channel? [07:41] nope [07:41] this would be the place to resolve bans from non-core channels [07:42] ok [07:42] too meta then? [07:43] wait [07:43] am i banned from a non-core channel [07:43] like women? [07:43] yes [07:43] yes [07:44] ok we should resolve that [07:44] and here is the person to discuss it with! [07:44] i don't see her [07:44] ok well [07:44] now i think i am hallucinating [07:45] Hoober: I think bazhang means me ;) [07:45] because these are too many ubuntu channels [07:45] and you all have similar names [07:45] Hoober, rww is a 'he' last I checked [07:45] rww: since when are you a her? [07:46] is it 9-11 [07:48] are you shy [07:48] maco? [07:48] i am going to meta [07:49] i am not getting any closer to sucking your titties my standing here maco [07:49] ok that i admit was a troll [07:50] no hard feelings? [07:50] emma [07:50] i like your name [07:50] it reminds me of that girl who cybered me, and wasn't a girl but just a person who wanted to know how i was hacking city of heroes [07:50] yeah [07:51] !ops | Hoober [07:51] Hoober: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, or nhandler! [07:51] !ops [07:53] Hoober: leave now. return in 72 hours [07:53] wait [07:53] good evening. [07:53] this is different channel [07:53] no waiting. that is it. [07:53] gosh darn [07:53] are you a girl atleast [07:53] oh god, I have ops in here, too? this cloak is crazy. [07:53] just tell me before i go [07:54] why is rww not allowed in -ops? [07:54] PLEASE [07:54] i am a boy [07:54] or man [07:54] he isn't a core op. but I think he should be [07:54] bazhang: *!*@ubuntu/member/* is on -irc's access list [07:54] would it help if i told you m y age [07:54] rww: yes, /lots/ of ops in here [07:54] bazhang: the only places I'm a named op are non-core channels [07:54] rww, that is silly [07:54] i was allowed in -ops before becoming an op in a core channe [07:54] *channel [07:55] i was only an op in #ubuntuforums and -women at the time [07:55] maco: the degree to which the rule's enforced has changed over time [08:09] What a pest. [08:11] not sure why he'd want to come back in 72 hours, though. He's not getting back in #ubuntu-women any time soon :\ [08:11] rww: he has been given a 72 hour window for the bans in other channels also. I figured it was a good round number [08:12] makes him 3 for 3 now [08:13] ah, okay, didn't know that [08:13] you would have if you were in -ops [08:13] :/ [08:13] yep [08:16] honestly, even some non-ops should be able to idle there, like mc44 [08:16] maybe I should put on my wiki page: "I would like to be an #ubuntu op so I can hang out in #ubuntu-ops, poke at the bantracker myself, and bend the Encyclopedia plugin to my will. It is concievable that would even op up in #ubuntu at some point too." [08:16] s/that would/that I would/ [08:16] * rww kids, somewhat [08:17] at the very least rww, and why don't you have it in -ot? [08:17] there are people on that list who are long gone, and some who I have never heard of , let alone seen. [08:17] I don't agree with the non ops being in -ops but I think that all ops in ubuntu namespace should be allowed, it could only benefit the community as a whole to have all the ops together. [08:18] people keep asking me this. I swear I remember being a pain in the backside in -offtopic for months [08:18] of course only if they want to join [08:18] certain people (as mentioned above) have invaluable insight and info [08:18] rww: you were lol but would still be a good op for that channel. [08:19] bazhang: the whole allowing certain non-ops into the channel creates a divide in the community. [08:19] IdleOne, not really [08:19] questions like " Why is he allowed and not me?" [08:19] you like him/favoritism and all that [08:19] he was allowed for ages and ages in the past [08:20] no schism burst forth then [08:20] in the past yes but the community has grown so much [08:20] which does not address my point [08:20] there are a lot of people who would be assets to the ops team. They should apply :) [08:21] then you should go convince the IRCC to ask for more ops ;P [08:21] * IdleOne pokes the IRCC [08:21] hehe [08:21] there is nothing stopping anyone from submitting an application to the IRCC now [08:21] well that boat has sailed. the ones who did idle and no longer do won't come back willingly. [08:22] no [08:22] the whole point is to have people outside of the team to take an unbiased and critical look. [08:24] anybody in the community is welcome to contact the IRCC if they have concerns or suggestions to make. [08:24] I made a couple before I became a op [08:24] moot at this point. [08:25] Anyway, I say rww should be allowed in -ops [08:25] * IdleOne makes a sign [08:26] yep. [08:36] IdleOne, do you have any concept of just how many people "all ops in the ubuntu namespace" is? [08:37] (psst, loco channels are in the ubuntu namespace) [08:37] I wonder what the intersection is of people who are ops in the ubuntu namespace and people who are banned from core channels [08:38] There's a rogues in the mix, yes. [08:38] *a few [08:38] Not enough to count on a hand afaik, but still, more than 0 [10:59] rww: btw your projected wiki entry, ops don't automatically get access to the bot :) [11:00] * topyli has no access === k1l_ is now known as k1l [16:00] elky: I don't see how the number of ops in a channel makes a difference. I admit the idea is not perfect. [16:01] IdleOne, the number of people in -ops is relevant when it comes to how people react in there. [16:03] oh you mean relevant to the user who is joining? [16:05] One day all the problems of the world will be resolved and we will have no need for governments [16:05] or in this case ops on irc [16:05] :) === radoe_ is now known as radoe === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang