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Andre_Gondimhi, I don't know if here is the place to say, but in maverick I can't install ubuntu-restricted-extras, 'cause ubuntu-restricted-addons is missing04:38
FlannelAndre_Gondim: #ubuntu+1 I imagine04:41
Andre_Gondimthanks Flannel04:41
zookoOkay we've announced that Tahoe-LAFS 1.8.0 final will be released Wed, Aug 11.06:04
zookoThis is because the Maverick Feature Freeze is Aug 12.06:04
zookoI'm hoping to get Tahoe-LAFS 1.8.0 into Maverick.06:04
zookoFolks: could anyone help me get my pyutil library packaged for Debian/Ubuntu?06:29
zookoIt would help with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfec/+bug/60602206:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 606022 in zfec (Ubuntu) "zfec dependencies are broken" [Undecided,New]06:29
zookoAlthough technically pyutil really isn't required for zfec, only for certain optional features of zfec.06:30
AnAntzooko: well, why put pyutil in Depends if it isn't really required ?06:52
AnAntzooko: you can put it in suggests instead06:52
zookoAs far as I understand it *isn't* actually in Depends at this time, but some people think that it should be since the Python packaging metadata of zfec specifies pyutil as an install_requires.06:53
AnAntzooko: I think they are right, since I see unconditional import'ing from pyutil (without even try catch)06:59
AnAntzooko: namely in filefec.py07:00
AnAntzooko: ok, so what help is needed ?07:04
AnAntzooko: so, where's your pyutil package ?07:08
zookoHi!07:11
zookohttp://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/pyutil07:12
AnAntzooko: oh, I thought you already prepared the package07:14
zookoSorry. Just a minute let me see how well this old tool works....07:15
zookoWell, AnAnt, I appreciate your help, but I'm way too sleepy to continue.07:24
AnAntok07:24
zookoIf you're around this weekend I might ping you again once I have some debian/ or DSC files or something.07:24
zookoI was intending to try the stdeb tool to generate those.07:24
zookohttp://github.com/astraw/stdeb07:24
zookoGoodnight!07:25
bilalakhtarM-o-m is down07:54
dupondjesince like 3 days :p07:59
bilalakhtardupondje: Really?08:20
bilalakhtarI noticed it today!08:21
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AnAntCould someone review this package: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/thawab ?08:48
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AnAntCould someone review this package: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/thawab ?10:04
AnAntbbl10:04
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X3hi guys im getting this on a lm-sensors build from new upstream https://launchpad.net/~x3lectric/+archive/experimental/+build/1908608/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.lm-sensors-3_1:3.1.2+5852~0ubuntu0~karmic1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz11:11
gesercheck if those patches are still needed (or applied upstream) and update the failing ones if necessary11:16
X3all patches needed this is a new lm-sensors build cutting edge11:18
X3how do i update the failing ones11:18
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ari-tczewtumbleweed: ping11:38
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geserX3: which patch system does it use?12:03
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ari-tczewgeser: do you have 64bit system?12:08
geserari-tczew: yes12:13
ari-tczewgeser: could you test build it? http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/sapwood/sapwood_3.1.1.debian.10+0m5-2.dsc12:14
geserari-tczew: not currently as I'm not a home12:15
ari-tczewaha12:15
geserari-tczew: why not upload to PPA?12:15
ari-tczewgeser: I don;t know12:15
vishcould someone upload : https://code.launchpad.net/~vish/ubuntu/maverick/acidrip/fix602693/+merge/3202912:52
ari-tczewvish: I think that your patch should follow upstream (Debian).12:56
Laneythe package isn't in debian12:57
vishari-tczew: it seems not in debian12:57
vishyeah , what Laney said :)12:57
ari-tczewLaney, vish: "2" before ubuntu in version confused me, sorry12:58
Laneyvish: there is a bug with a patch on it for acidrip12:58
Laneycould you look at including that?12:58
vishLaney: hmm , not sure , i'm just making simple changes not an expert at packaging12:59
Laneyor unmark it as a patch, ... whatever12:59
AnAntcould someone review this package: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=thawab ?13:06
ari-tczewgeser: I can't upload this package to PPA, because it's rejected: The signer of this package is lacking the upload rights for the source package, component or package set in question.13:27
wgrantari-tczew: You didn't upload it to a PPA -- you uploaded it to the primary archive.13:28
wgrantOr possibly a PPA with an odd permission setup that you don't have access to -- there was a bug about that recently.13:28
tumbleweedari-tczew: pong13:30
ari-tczewtumbleweed: interested in sync sponsoring13:31
ari-tczew?13:31
tumbleweedari-tczew: sure, in the queue?13:31
ari-tczewtumbleweed: ye13:31
tumbleweedk, I'll look in a minute13:31
ari-tczewok13:32
ari-tczewtumbleweed: do you have 64bit system?13:50
tumbleweedari-tczew: yup13:53
tumbleweedsorry, got caught up fixing a bug :)13:53
ari-tczewtumbleweed: so syncs won't go?13:54
tumbleweedno, uploading sgb sync now13:54
ari-tczewaha13:55
ari-tczewLaney: are you going to join core team?13:56
Laneyi've got no plans to do that13:56
sebnerLaney for core-dev \o/13:56
LaneyI've got upload to everything I need13:56
LaneyDD next :)13:58
AnAntREVU cannot extract bz2 orig tarballs  ?13:58
sebnerLaney for DD \o/13:59
tumbleweedAnAnt: it can't excrat source fomat 3, full stop13:59
AnAntah13:59
tumbleweedstill running hardy13:59
AnAntok14:00
ari-tczewtumbleweed: do you use hardy?14:01
tumbleweedari-tczew: no, the box behind REVU does14:01
tumbleweedari-tczew: I have boxes running etch, does that count? :)14:01
ari-tczewtumbleweed: I only ask :P14:02
AnAnttumbleweed: would you  review thawab: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=thawab ?14:05
tumbleweedI still doesn't have revu advocation rights (any revu admins alive?)14:06
tumbleweedbut I can look14:06
AnAntthanks14:07
tumbleweedAnAnt: I see it's a debian package, waiting for sponsorship?14:08
AnAntyup14:08
tumbleweedaah, our old friend waqf. Have you got any waqf-licenced packages into debian yet?14:09
AnAnttumbleweed: you know about it ?14:10
AnAnttumbleweed: yes, there are about 2 or 3 packages14:10
tumbleweedAnAnt: I followed the flamewar, and helped with some of english translation tweaks14:10
ari-tczewtumbleweed: also masqmail if you could :)14:12
AnAntI see14:12
AnAntI gotta run now14:13
AnAnttumbleweed: looking forward for your review14:13
AnAntbye14:13
AnAntHello15:24
AnAnttumbleweed: sorry that I had to leave quickly, what translation bits were you talking about ?15:25
tumbleweedAnAnt: can't remember, something to do with some english wording in debian/copyright on the first waqf package15:28
AnAntah yes15:29
AnAntoh, so it was you who suggested to Jakub Wilk ?15:29
tumbleweedAnAnt: yes :)15:31
AnAntthanks15:31
AnAntas for the package, it doesn't need to install to public namespace indeed, but that's how upstream does it15:31
AnAntcan setup.py be modified to install private modules ?15:32
AnAnttumbleweed: ^15:33
tumbleweedAnAnt: yes, you can call it with --install-lib=/usr/share/PACKAGENAME15:35
AnAntah, and how will the app find it ? should I change it somehow ?15:36
tumbleweedyes, you'll have to either set PYTHONPATH in a wrapper shell script, or insert it into sys.path15:37
AnAntas for the doc, I cannot *move* it to /usr/share/doc, but I can create a symlink15:39
tumbleweedI guess that works15:40
AnAntas for the POT thing, I think that's a problem with the release tarball (POT file was not refreshed before tarball release)15:52
AnAnttumbleweed: a workaround would be removing the thawab.pot target in po/Makefile15:53
* tumbleweed doesn't know how this is normally dealt with...15:56
ari-tczewtumbleweed: thanks for syncs. interested in merging? :P15:56
tumbleweedari-tczew: yes, I'm working through the queue (but slowly, because I'm watching some debconf talks)15:57
ari-tczewaha15:57
ari-tczewok15:57
AnAnttumbleweed: is it that important ?16:23
zookoGood morning, AnAnt!16:44
tumbleweedAnAnt: no, there's no simple solution16:48
AnAntzooko: evening here16:57
AnAnttumbleweed: ok, I re-uploaded16:57
tumbleweedAnAnt: I see no orig.tar16:59
AnAntoh, seems REVU doesn't support diff only re-uploads !16:59
AnAnttumbleweed: ok, re-uploaded17:02
AnAntdebhelper 8 released17:14
ari-tczewAnAnt: are you going to merge?17:15
highvoltagewhoah I'm still getting used to 7! :p17:22
AnAntari-tczew: I don't mind17:23
ari-tczew:)17:24
AnAnthighvoltage: I don't really know yet what's the difference between 7 & 817:24
zookoDear Ubuntu people: where do I go to request that Ubuntu leaders contact someone else and remind them of the code of conduct? I'm thinking of this article, to which I just posted a reply myself: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-35-year-old-with-neck-beard.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28Omg!+Ubuntu!%2917:32
zookoBy the way, I totally know this isn't the perfect channel. I guess I'm asking what is the perfect channel.17:33
Laneythere are no leaders to do that17:33
zookoReally? Mark Shuttleworth's recent blog entry said otherwise: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/43917:34
macoyou can email the CC17:34
macothey deal with issues of the members and the CoC17:35
LaneyWhere does that say there's an Ubuntu blog police?17:35
macoLaney: posts on planet must follow the CoC17:35
zookoMore relevant to this channel: AnAnt: here is my first crude attempt at packaging pyutil: http://tahoe-lafs.org/~zooko/pyutil-1.7.9-7.tar.bz217:36
zookoLaney: I was thinking of the part that said "When someone who calls herself “an Ubuntu fan” stands up and slates the work of another distro we quietly reach out to that person and point out that it’s not the Ubuntu way of doing things.".17:36
zookoIf there is nobody who wants that job, that's fine with me.17:36
Laneyyes, you can do that yourself :)17:36
macoLaney: a copy of that post was posted to planet17:36
Laneyit's everybody's job17:36
zookoI've done my best already, but I thought that someone who's name Benjamin already knew might make him think harder about it.17:36
zookoThat is: someone who he already feels loyal to because they are producing part of the distro that he loves and he already knows them.17:37
zookoAnyway.17:37
AnAntari-tczew: working on it17:39
ari-tczewAnAnt: nice!17:39
ari-tczewtumbleweed: Around?17:43
tumbleweedyes17:43
highvoltagezooko: that article is rather unfortunate17:43
ari-tczewtumbleweed: ah, nothing, nevermind :P17:44
ari-tczewI'd like to please you sync package, but it;s in main.17:45
tumbleweedheh17:45
ari-tczewbdrung: around?17:45
tumbleweedvish: ping?17:46
vishtumbleweed: hey17:46
tumbleweedvish: can I drop two columns of whitespace from the acidrip description?17:47
vishtumbleweed: sure17:47
zookoWould anyone like to tell me what is wrong with my packaging of pyutil? http://tahoe-lafs.org/~zooko/pyutil-1.7.9-7.tar.bz2 . Oh, maybe I should go ahead and upload it to REVU?17:47
ari-tczewzooko: bingo!17:48
AnAntzooko: I expect an orig tarball, debdifff & dsc file17:49
oojahI'm trying to create a package that creates multiple binaries for the first time.18:18
oojahI want to create a binary package for a shared library and another for a binary that links to the shlib.18:19
oojahI've added the shlib as a Depends entry for the binary, but when dpkg-shlibdeps runs, it complains it can't find the library.18:20
oojahAny suggestions one what I might be doing wrong?18:20
AnAntari-tczew: are you a core-dev ?18:21
ari-tczewAnAnt: no18:21
ari-tczewAnAnt: propose to ask cjwatson about upload18:23
AnAntLP #61478718:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 614787 in debhelper (Ubuntu) "Candidate revision debhelper 8.0.0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61478718:24
ari-tczewtumbleweed: are you still working on sponsors-queue ?18:25
AnAntoojah: care to paste the problem in pastebin ?18:27
oojahAnAnt: The error text, or something more?18:28
tumbleweedari-tczew: I took a supper-cooking break18:28
AnAntoojah: maybe the whole buildlog ?18:28
ari-tczewtumbleweed: Today was a rich harvest18:30
oojahAnAnt: http://pastebin.com/EvDQ8xL218:33
tumbleweedari-tczew: that's because DDs are jumping to get squeeze freeze-exceptions18:34
AnAntoojah: are you sure that libmosquitto got installed in the proper package (usually during dh_install)18:36
ari-tczewtumbleweed: I mean also about syncs. I found yet some possible syncs.18:36
ari-tczewI thought that everything is only to-merged18:36
oojahAnAnt: That points me in the right direction - the install file for the library was missing the SO number so wasn't getting picked up.18:41
oojahThanks very much.18:41
AnAntoojah: usually the lib<whatever>.install has this line:18:42
AnAntusr/lib/lib*.so.*18:42
oojahAnAnt: I meant the name of the install file... :)18:47
M68000hello18:47
AnAntah18:47
M68000how do i submit my application for the ubuntu repositories?18:48
ari-tczew!REVU | M6800018:49
ubottuM68000: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU18:49
M68000ill take a look thanks ari-tczew18:49
ari-tczewin the other way, you can own maintaining package in Debian and then sync to ubuntu18:50
M68000which method would you recommend?18:51
tumbleweedari-tczew: ddd: where's the icon?18:51
ari-tczewtumbleweed: ddd-3.3.12/ddd.desktop and ddd-3.3.12/icons/ddd.xpm18:52
tumbleweedari-tczew: I mean in the binary package18:52
ari-tczewtumbleweed: hmmm?18:53
tumbleweedI don't see it in the binary package18:53
ari-tczewtumbleweed: binary is /debian/ ?18:54
ari-tczewtumbleweed: do you need a screenshot? :D18:55
zooko<AnAnt> zooko: I expect an orig tarball, debdifff & dsc file18:57
zookoAnAnt: that is what I provided, in http://tahoe-lafs.org/~zooko/pyutil-1.7.9-7.tar.bz218:58
AnAntzooko: could you upload to REVU please ?18:58
tumbleweedari-tczew: http://paste.debian.net/82484/18:59
zookoAnAnt: ok19:00
ari-tczewtumbleweed: hmmm, seems to debian/ddd.install is not completed19:03
zookoHm, reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU makes me wonder if I should instead work on getting pyutil into Debian.19:03
tumbleweedzooko: yes. maintaining in debian is best19:04
AnAntzooko: if you want it in maverick, then I don't advise you to do so, since maverick will feature freeze on Thursday19:04
tumbleweedwhat AnAnt says, too19:05
AnAntzooko: otherwise, going for Debian is the best path19:05
zookoHm, I've logged into REVU but I don't see anyway to upload packages.19:07
zookoPerhaps I don't have that privilege.19:07
zookoOh19:08
* zooko reads the fine https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU19:08
zookoNap time. Back in a bit.19:09
AnAntdput revu package_version-revision_source.changes19:10
ari-tczewtumbleweed: 14 sponsorships done :) thanks!19:27
tumbleweedbdrung still has me by a factor of 2 on hall-of-fame :)19:29
ari-tczewtumbleweed: btw. bdrung has done ~80 sponsorships for me19:31
tumbleweedyeah, he's busy like that... :P19:31
ari-tczewnext devel cycle I'm going to open a broadcast our community on Polish LoCo19:33
ari-tczewmaybe this step will bring new contributors19:34
ari-tczewtumbleweed: do you working on celestia?19:45
tumbleweedyeah, it's big :)19:46
ari-tczewtumbleweed: ddd's merge I'll prepare tomorrow.19:47
ari-tczewI'm going out for beer. see you later19:47
tumbleweedenjoy19:48
zookoIs anyone interested in upgrading Tahoe-LAFS for Maverick?20:24
zookoThere is a new stable release of Tahoe-LAFS out with many improvements.20:24
zookohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tahoe-lafs/+bug/60975521:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 609755 in tahoe-lafs (Ubuntu) "please upgrade to tahoe-lafs v1.7.1" [Undecided,New]21:13
zookoIn a related story: http://identi.ca/notice/45386923 Tahoe-LAFS v1.8.0c1 serves files five times as fast as Tahoe-LAFS v1.7.1 does.21:14

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