[00:04] <jaafar> PeterDrop: can you be more specific about your problem? What are you trying to accomplish, what did you do, and what happened?
[00:05] <PeterDrop> jaafar: hi, i have kubuntu 10.04, ho printer d1660, and i cant get the print work
[00:06] <jaafar> PeterDrop: can  you be more specific? For example, how do you know the printing is not working? What did you try that did not work?
[00:06] <PeterDrop> jaafar: i have hplip installed, in hp device manager, iam trying to print a "test page" and, says "starting job" and "job completed" but nothing happens
[00:07] <PeterDrop> jaafar: other think happens, "unable to communicate witj printer deskjet_d1660" Please check the pruinter and try again
[00:08] <jaafar> PeterDrop: is your Deskjet connected via usb or some other way?
[00:08] <PeterDrop> jaafar: usb
[00:08] <jaafar> When you do "lsusb" (in a terminal) do you see your printer?
[00:09] <PeterDrop> jaafar: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 03f0:7f11 Hewlett-Packard
[00:09] <PeterDrop> that says
[00:11] <jaafar> PeterDrop: that's good.  It seems like your problem is a common one.  Here is some possible help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467179
[00:11] <jaafar> PeterDrop: according to another thread the approach in post #3 (HP installer) worked
[00:11] <jaafar> PeterDrop: I don't have this printer so I don't think I can help you more
[00:12] <PeterDrop> jaafar: i read, that post already :( and follow the steps, no work
[00:12] <PeterDrop> jaafar: very txs for answer anyway man
[00:12] <jaafar> PeterDrop: np, good luck
[00:12] <PeterDrop> txs
[00:15] <HappyHitman> Hello
[00:16] <HappyHitman> I was wondering if someone could help me with audio problem please.
[00:25] <HappyHitman> Anyone here/
[00:25] <HappyHitman> ?*
[01:09] <ruben66> saludos soy novato alguien que me pueda orientar
[02:39] <pencil> After the last update, kubuntu rebooted into text mode... lost my gui... had nvidia driver.. how can i fix this?
[02:45] <gabriel9> how can you have Chromium which is using QT libs?
[02:46] <gabriel9> i use Arch and it is bleading edge, and your Chromium is looking nicer :)
[02:54] <crom> Hi...I'm trying to "hciconfig -a hci0 up" and I get the error "Can't init device hci0: Unknown error 132 (132)"     any idea?
[03:04] <Selfrich> hi
[03:05] <crom> Hi...I'm trying to "hciconfig -a hci0 up" and I get the error "Can't init device hci0: Unknown error 132 (132)"     any idea?
[03:09] <yan__> hi all, I'm trying to find the user configuration files of my menu
[03:09] <yan__> with all the applications in the menu
[03:09] <yan__> anybody knows where I can find it?
[03:15] <souji> hello is there any one
[03:15] <Lavi> hi
[03:15] <souji> hi
[03:16] <souji> is this lavi is talking here?
[03:16] <Lavi> can anyone tell me why I'm able to install the nonfree flash plugin and get flash videos to work but I have no sound?
[03:17] <souji> Can Any one is there to help me?
[03:18] <souji> What is this quassel irc
[03:19] <souji> this is like chatting only?
[03:19] <Lavi> quassel is the irc client
[03:19] <Lavi> it;s chatting/help
[03:19] <Lavi> but one is around though :/
[03:19] <Lavi> except us
[03:20] <yan__> Lavi
[03:20] <yan__> have u tried to restard the browser?
[03:20] <crom>  Hi...I'm trying to "hciconfig -a hci0 up" and I get the error "Can't init device hci0: Unknown error 132 (132)"     any idea?
[03:20] <Lavi> yes
[03:21] <Lavi> I tried in Firefox, Konq, restarted the browser, rebooted the computer, even though I knew it wouldn't do anything
[03:21] <yan__> hmm
[03:21] <souji> means is it only for help in subjects?
[03:21] <Lavi> I get the startup and shutdown sounds, and animated sounded for the operating system
[03:21] <yan__> have you tried to listen to music via browser?
[03:21] <Lavi> yeah
[03:21] <yan__> some audio file on wikipedia
[03:21] <yan__> etc
[03:21] <yan__> it works?
[03:21] <Lavi> thats what I've been trying and doens't work
[03:22] <Lavi> youtube, hulu, ect
[03:24] <souji> who are all those chatting here?
[03:31] <adminpc> hello
[03:54] <souji> for comp;etion of any installation do we have to restart again?
[03:55] <souji> completion
[03:59] <souji> for completion of any installation do we have to restart again?
[04:02] <yan__> restart again what?
[04:02] <yan__> installation of what?
[04:02] <yan__> packages
[04:02] <yan__> I mean, programs
[04:02] <yan__> the whole system
[04:07] <souji> Thanx yan
[04:07] <souji> for giving reply
[04:08] <souji> I have installed adobe flash player
[04:08] <souji> its not working
[04:08] <souji> do I have to restart the system again?
[04:08] <well_laid_lawn> just restart the browser
[04:09] <souji> ok
[04:10] <souji> You need to upgrade your Adobe Flash Player to watch this video.
[04:10] <souji> this msg is displayed
[04:10] <souji> what should I do then?
[04:14] <well_laid_lawn> try installing
[04:14] <well_laid_lawn> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[04:16] <souji> mine is amd ultra
[04:16] <souji> isn't is installed here?
[04:18] <well_laid_lawn> try installing   flashplugin-nonfree
[04:19] <souji> where it is?
[04:19] <well_laid_lawn> In component multiverse - is the universe repository
[04:19] <well_laid_lawn> !repos
[04:32] <souji> thank you so much for ur help ubottu
[04:32] <souji> i tried but not getting
[04:32] <souji> i will try later
[05:10] <ubuntu> hi...I cant install kubuntu...the desktop version gives me an error and the alternate doesnt detect my cdrom somehow
[05:16] <harolddong> is your drive going out?
[05:43] <phoenix__> hello everyone
[05:44] <phoenix__> when i try to uninstall nvidia graphics driver , the system hangs. when i restart my computer i see the filesystem corrupted.
[05:47] <phoenix__> removed it successfully
[06:02] <colorsoundboy> how can i read the local mail in /var/mail?
[06:53] <mot_> quick question
[06:53] <mot_> i've got kubuntu installed on a 27" imac but the graphics drivers aren't installed so i boot up to a black screen
[06:53] <mot_> how do i kill the x session on the mac keyboard to drop to the cmd line?
[06:54] <mot_> or better yet, how do i boot to a command line and restrain x from starting at all?
[07:40] <phoenix__> i want to upgrade kde to 4.5 rc3
[08:05] <DarthFrog> phoenix__: If you want KDE 4.5 RC3, you'll have to compile it yourself.  It was released as source only: the Kubuntu dev team has decided to not package it, waiting for the official release next week.
[08:06] <phoenix__> DarthFrog: next week. where did you see that
[08:06] <DarthFrog> It was to be released this past week but has been post-poned.
[08:07] <phoenix__> DarthFrog: what is the reason
[08:07] <DarthFrog> No idea.  I just heard it was post-poned.
[08:08] <DarthFrog> Riddell was on channel this morning and that's what he said.  He's the big kahuna of Kubuntu.
[08:08] <phoenix__> DarthFrog: good info
[08:09] <phoenix__> DarthFrog: thanks
[08:09] <DarthFrog> Your welcome
[09:32] <dario_> kubuntu-it
[09:33] <dario_> ???
[09:34] <dario_> graziee
[09:35] <jussi> !it | dario_
[09:36] <dario_> ok grazie
[10:36] <heyboy> Problems connecting USB Modem even after installing usb-modeswitch
[10:43] <shahrooz> hi people
[10:43] <shahrooz> I really need your help
[10:43] <jussi> !ask
[10:44] <heyboy> Problems connecting USB Modem even after installing usb-modeswitch
[10:44] <shahrooz> okay thanks ^^ sorry I'm new. well I need to install skystar2 rev2.8 on ubuntu 9.10, I tried any tutorial I found in google but no one worked out
[10:46] <shahrooz> I have the driver package and tried the installation instruction in it too but only received errors
[10:49] <shahrooz> should I keep waiting ?
[10:50] <shahrooz> :( why no body answers me ?
[10:51] <shahrooz> bye
[13:03] <steve__> how do I use the cd command in terminal to change dir to a folder named using greek font?
[13:04] <steve__> ex. cd /home/steve/λήψεις
[13:04] <steve__> anyone please?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Hi
[13:28] <raksandjalpa> hi all
[13:45] <ubuntu> hi...I'm in the middle of a failed kubuntu install...it already formated /, so I'm kinda screwed :)
[13:46] <ubuntu> ubiquity says it can't unmount the /cdrom
[13:46] <AlexZion> what's up ubuntu ?
[13:47] <AlexZion> but have you already install it ?
[13:47] <ubuntu> nop...I'm on the livecd now
[13:49] <AlexZion> so let me understand, running the installation have you got an error after the formatting ?
[13:50] <ubuntu> exactly...the error is that it can't unmount the /cdrom....on the syslog it says the device is busy
[13:51] <AlexZion> of course is busy , if are installing.........
[13:52] <AlexZion> I mean , probably have you tried to open the cd-rom drive ?
[13:52] <ubuntu> nop...nothing is open....just installing
[13:53] <ubuntu> it opens
[13:53] <AlexZion> it's really strange .....
[13:53] <AlexZion> try again to install , probably something went wrong .....
[13:54] <ubuntu> why is it trying to unmount the /cdrom anyway?
[13:55] <AlexZion> I can't understand ......, anyway ,try again , and if it will happen again ,so there is surely a problem
[13:56] <ubuntu> I tryed for about 5 times....
[13:56] <AlexZion> ahh ok , so there is a problem .....
[13:57] <AlexZion> are you trying with Kubuntu 10.04 ?
[13:59] <ubuntu> yes....I tryed this for 5 times already with the same error
[13:59] <AlexZion> you pc, is a modern pc, or an old machina?
[13:59] <AlexZion> ops ...machine ...
[14:00] <ubuntu> modern...has 1year
[14:00] <AlexZion> laptop or desktop ?
[14:00] <ubuntu> laptop
[14:00] <AlexZion> do you have some strange hardaware connected ?
[14:00] <ubuntu> the cdrom :D
[14:01] <ubuntu> it's the only thing connected to it :)
[14:01] <AlexZion> do you mean it is an external drive ?
[14:01] <ubuntu> usb
[14:01] <AlexZion> ok , so probably the problem could be thisone .....
[14:02] <AlexZion> have you tried to install from a usb pendrive ?
[14:02] <ubuntu> I don't have one
[14:03] <AlexZion> because it could works better ....
[14:03] <ubuntu> but wait a sec...
[14:03] <AlexZion> otherwise could be a kernel problem.....
[14:04] <ubuntu> I have the phone mem card...I'll try to find the sd adapter
[14:04] <AlexZion> mhhh,i don't know if it's the same with a card reader .....
[14:05] <AlexZion> anyway , are you trying with Netbook version , or the normal ?
[14:06] <ubuntu> have faith ;) what is the name of that thing? unetbootin?
[14:06] <ubuntu> it's the normal version
[14:06] <AlexZion> but your pc is a netbook ?
[14:07] <ubuntu> it's a laptop....'till yesterday I had kubuntu running here just fine
[14:08] <AlexZion> laptop model ?
[14:08] <AlexZion> and the version of Kubuntu you had before was the same version ?
[14:11] <ubuntu> Packard Bell EasyNote BG49 Limited Edition
[14:12] <ubuntu> in deed...10.04...the difference is that the previous was from upgrade....since 8.10
[14:18] <ubuntu> ok...unetbootin it running now....
[14:19] <AlexZion> yeah , could a kernel problem I think ...., you could try with 9.10 version for exmple
[14:21] <ubuntu> well...the reason I'm installing again is because I want a fresh install
[14:21] <ubuntu> not an upgrade
[14:22] <ubuntu> the sd card WILL WORK!!!
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, or try the alternate install cd , it worked for me when the std live cd wouldn't
[14:27] <ubuntu> also did...it loads the installer and then...guess what....can't find the cd :)
[14:29] <BluesKaj> ok. then your cdrom is probly failing
[14:30] <BluesKaj> some of the mfg installed cdroms are toast in 2 yrs
[14:30]  * James147 has given up on cd/dvds :)
[14:30] <ubuntu> it's not...I recently installed a netbook with it...easy peasy I think was the name...and went fine...it's not failing, there is some software problem around
[14:30] <ubuntu> ok guys...wish me luck :)
[14:30] <ubuntu> brb
[14:36]  * BluesKaj wonders what that software prob could be.
[14:42] <BluesKaj> I meant cdrom drive not the disk itself , ubuntu
[14:43] <James147> BluesKaj: he could have as well ^^ most netbooks dont have a cdrom drive so could ahve been an usb external
[14:44] <James147> also he quit  :)
[14:44] <BluesKaj> right,  James147
[14:45] <BluesKaj> yeah. I have the notifiers turned off
[14:46] <BluesKaj> not bad in here but #ubuntu gets filled up quickly with useless text
[14:47] <James147> BluesKaj: dont tend to go there because of that :)
[14:48] <James147> that and I cant follow it and do work at the same time :)
[14:51] <BluesKaj> well James147 , I have time on my hands today...it's raining so my trim project is on hold
[15:30] <ubuntu> how can I get a previous version of kubuntu_
[15:30] <ubuntu> ?
[15:31] <James147> ubuntu: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/    any reason why?
[15:31] <ubuntu> because 10.04 is not working properly
[15:31] <James147> ^^ better place http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[15:32] <ubuntu> thanx >(
[15:32] <ubuntu> :)
[15:33] <ubuntu> damn keyboard layout :D
[15:33] <ubuntu> Im unable to install any of the lucid versions
[15:34] <James147> what goes wrong?
[15:34] <ubuntu> I will try to upgrade
[15:35] <ubuntu> well...when installing the desktop version, it says it cant unmount the /cdrom partition, and fails to install
[15:36] <ubuntu> on the alternate, after running from the cdrom, selecting language and so, says it cant find the cd
[15:36] <ubuntu> or cant mount it
[15:37] <ubuntu> Im trying to install this since yesterday....getting pretty pissed with it
[15:38] <James147> ubuntu: have you tryed it using a usb flash drive?
[15:38] <ubuntu> also tryed to put the iso into an sd/card...all my adapters are broken :) today is one of those days :)
[15:38] <James147> :(
[15:39] <ubuntu> I miss the install from iso that I used in mandrake....
[15:40] <ubuntu> well Im hoping to successfully install 9.10 and then upgrade
[15:46] <btarik> hello world, i want to have a norma desktop under kubuntu and not the plasmoid version, how can i do that?
[15:46] <James147> btarik: ^^ what version of kde?
[15:47] <btarik> kubuntu 9.10
[15:47] <BluesKaj> plasmoid is the default- normal version now
[15:47] <ubuntu> btarik: go to the activity settings...then inthe activity tab, set the type to folder view
[15:48] <ubuntu> im using 10.04 so things might be in a slightly different place
[15:49] <James147> btarik: right clock the desktop > activity settings > Activity > change Type to "Folder view"
[15:49] <James147> click ^^
[15:51] <btarik> Thank you James147, and i want to change the default web browser into firefox i tried update-alternatives --config x-www-browser but in vain
[15:51] <James147> btarik: System settings > Default Applications
[15:51] <ubuntu> well...gonna try it now...
[15:52]  * BluesKaj didn't like the plasma view and widget stuff at first , but it works for me now , vivsually and otherwise.
[15:53] <btarik> can we change the size of the plasmoid?
[15:54] <James147> btarik: mouse over it and handel should appear (assuming widgets are unlocked) on the handel there is a rezise button click and drag
[15:55] <James147> BluesKaj: has always liked that widget view :) mostly because I hate desktop icons so normally have a blank desktop
[15:55] <btarik> ah i had to click and drag...^^ thanks James147
[15:55] <James147> I have ^^
[15:58] <btarik> is it possible the show the plasmoid only in one virtual desktop?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> my desktop http://imagebin.ca/view/BXs99y0.html  , James147
[15:59] <James147> btarik: yes... cant remember what version of kde that was introduced, but you need to set up seperate activity for each desktop (think its in one of the options when you click the semicircle thing in one of the corners
[16:02] <James147> btarik: nice :) heres mine: http://imagebin.ca/view/Lt-IG14M.html
[16:03] <James147> BluesKaj: ^^
[16:03] <James147> dam tab complete
[16:06] <BluesKaj> James147, neat, interesting
[16:06]  * James147 really like the bespin window theme :D
[16:09] <BluesKaj> I tied cairo docks , but it wouldn't respond and would hide behind the panel
[16:09] <licensed> what the similar app to seahorse (frontend to gnupg)
[16:09] <James147> not tryed that one but have tryed some of the plasmoid docks, havnt liked any of them
[16:10] <James147> licensed: kgpg?
[16:11] <licensed> James147, i think yes, but my kgpg didn't open.. and no returns any error
[16:11] <James147> licensed: it opens to the tray
[16:12] <licensed> James147, oh man.. sorry =///////////// i'm a newbie
[16:12] <licensed> thanks
[16:12] <licensed> James147, i'm to trying change my user password (i use encrypted /home)
[16:13] <BluesKaj> bbl
[16:13]  * James147 dosnt know much about encrypted drives
[16:37] <ubuntu__> James147: kubuntu 9.10 failed me too :)
[16:37] <James147> :(
[16:37] <ubuntu__> well...there is always a way...I'm debootstraping now
[16:38] <James147> really not sure why...
[16:38] <ubuntu__> takes a while, but....hopefully will work
[16:39] <James147> ubuntu__: afraid I cannot help anymore, I have to go... cya
[16:39] <ubuntu__> c ya...thx
[17:03] <ep> On 10.04, I need to enable "unsupported updates" to install one package (kdevelop).  What are the consequences of enabling backports,  does this mean that a bunch of other packages will be "updated" to unstable of alpha packages as well?  I just want kdevelop.
[17:20] <BluesKaj> ep,is it's available from download site , but you have to compile it http://www.kdevelop.org/mediawiki/index.php/KDevelop_4/compiling
[17:22] <BluesKaj> ep, also there's chat here on freenode , #kdevelop , maybe they can help you further
[17:28] <albergio> helloo
[17:30] <ep> BluesKaj: thanks, seems easier to just enstall the package by enabling the backports or unsupported  updates.  I guess this is what I was asking about, the debian package system.  I don't understand it.   How will other packages be affected if I enable unsupported updates.   I don't want a bunch of my applications "updated" to unsupported releases.
[17:30] <ep> I just want kdevelop
[17:31] <albergio> which language is this chat?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> ep, just find the kdevelop repos or ppa , and copy iit to your sources.list , as long as you don't update the other deb repos you should be fine , but just to be sure ask in #kdevelop first
[17:34] <ep> ok thanks
[17:34] <BluesKaj> albergio, english as you can already see::)
[17:35] <albergio> okay ;-) ... i'm new here ...
[18:10] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm trying to connect a gsm modem with knetworkmanager...my configs seem right but it doesn't connect...where can I check the errors from networkmanager?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> 1gsm |m_tadeu
[18:44] <BluesKaj> !gsm
[18:45] <BluesKaj> !modem
[18:49] <m_tadeu> BluesKaj:  thax
[18:50] <Badegakk> Hi, how to i kill X so i can install the newest Nvidia driver,  i have tryed several commands but i had no luck
[18:50] <BluesKaj> Badegakk, hang on
[18:50] <Badegakk> ok
[18:53] <BluesKaj> Badegakk, http://www.pastebin.ca/1913350
[18:54] <Badegakk> hmm i tryed sudo service kde stop nothing happend, il try it out once more
[18:54] <BluesKaj> kdm stop
[18:55] <BluesKaj> it won't respond . it just stops
[18:55] <Badegakk> ok
[18:55] <Badegakk> il try, thx :)
[18:55] <BluesKaj> Badegakk, which nvidia card do you use ?
[18:56] <Badegakk> nvidia gtx 275
[18:59] <IdleOne> Any op around who could unban MetaBot please?
[19:01] <IdleOne> *!*@unaffiliated/ljl/bot/metabot
[19:19] <tinus_> Hi, I'm on Kubuntu 10.04. I can't shutdown or reboot (except by calling shutdown or reboot directly). When i push the button in Kickoff the countdown dialog comes up but once the coundown is over (or i push the button) nothing happens!
[19:19] <tinus_> can anyone help?
[19:20] <tinus_> fresh install btw
[19:22] <m_tadeu> how can I change the filesystem code page?
[19:32] <Kimimaro001> Hello is Windows viruses not compatable with Linux because theirs a hacker who uses windows and targeting sites I am at and I'm afraid I will be affected but I am on linux and he's using windows
[19:46] <jtheuer> no
[19:46] <Dragnslcr> Kimimaro001- it's nearly impossible for a Windows virus to affect a Linux system. However, it isn't impossible to have malware that targets Linux, so you should still be careful
[19:46] <Kimimaro001> yeah I know. Does keyloggers affect Linux?
[19:47] <Dragnslcr> You could have one that is written to target Linux
[19:47] <Kimimaro001> Is their any firewall or anything I can add to protect linux system?
[19:48] <Dragnslcr> You shouldn't need a firewall, since there aren't many ports that are open for no good reason
[19:48] <Dragnslcr> But you can easily install one if you need to
[19:49] <Dragnslcr> !firewall
[19:50] <Kimimaro001> is it built in to be default on?
[20:05] <thechris> I am having issues runing "konsole"
[20:06] <thechris> konsole no longer runs
[20:38] <slow-motion> n8
[21:08] <tracy> Hi
[21:19] <bng007> hi all, is it possible with cron to periodicaly launch an application but not in background?
[21:21] <bng007> i just wish I could launch a graphical application with it periodicaly
[21:21] <tempos> cute... have never been here before...
[21:23] <Viperisthebest> Anyone know the command line for updating Kubuntu from the server?
[21:26] <Viperisthebest> the command to upgrade Kubuntu to 10.04?
[21:32] <Viperisthebest> What is the command to update to 10.04 from the server?
[21:32] <tempos> IT shoud have requested update itself... did you reject the update?
[21:34] <Viperisthebest> it never requested update
[21:34] <tempos> what version do you have now?
[21:34] <Viperisthebest> my brother said there is a command that you can type in konsole and it will start updating from the server
[21:34] <Viperisthebest> i have 9.10 now
[21:35] <Dragnslcr> Viperisthebest- are you in KDE, or do you only have a terminal?
[21:36] <Viperisthebest> im in KDE
[21:36] <Dragnslcr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[21:38] <Viperisthebest> that only gives the way to update it from adept manager
[21:38] <Viperisthebest> my brother said there is a command u can type in terminal to update from the server
[21:43] <Dragnslcr> Viperisthebest- sure, you can upgrade from a terminal, but if you're in KDE, why would you need to
[21:46] <Viperisthebest> What is the command to upgrade from a terminal?
[22:00] <Scunizi> Viperisthebest: upgrade from one release to another or simply upgrade the existing system for security patches and program updates?
[22:03] <uahmed> hellow
[22:05] <Viperisthebest> im trying to upgrade to the latest version 10.04 Scunizi
[22:06] <Scunizi> Viperisthebest: from what version?
[22:06] <Viperisthebest> 9.10
[22:06] <Scunizi> Viperisthebest: ubottu has several suggestions.. gui and cli based.. hang on.
[22:06] <Scunizi> !upgrade
[22:09] <Scunizi> Viperisthebest: Looks like "sudo do-release-upgrade -d for desktop upgrade.. if it's a server use the last link ubottu gave you
[22:13] <Viperisthebest> i did the one for desktop upgrade
[22:13] <Viperisthebest> it just aborts at the end
[22:13] <Scunizi> Viperisthebest: that's quick.. do you have a fast connection?
[22:14] <Viperisthebest> i have 7 mbps
[22:14] <Viperisthebest> its cable internet
[22:14] <Scunizi> not bad.. but still .. there's usually a ton to download and then it runs through the install process
[22:15] <Viperisthebest> at the end it says
[22:15] <Viperisthebest> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[22:15] <Viperisthebest> The package 'kubuntu-desktop-kde3' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist.  This can be caused by: * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu  If none of this applies, then please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bug report.
[22:16] <Viperisthebest> it says what that error calculating can be caused by
[22:16] <Scunizi> Viperisthebest: you should do a full update prior to upgrading.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... turn off any 3rd party repos and revert any binary video drivers to stock..
[22:17] <Viperisthebest> so the stock binary video driver is vesa
[22:17] <Scunizi> that's fine.. sometimes you have issues if you're running the nvidia or ati binary from them direct.
[22:17] <Viperisthebest> but i can do a full upgrade in adept manager
[22:18] <Scunizi> probably.. I don't use adept.. just apt-get
[22:18] <Viperisthebest> when i go into adept manager it says i can do a full upgrade
[22:19] <Scunizi> Viperisthebest: go for it
[22:19] <Viperisthebest> if i switch the driver to vesa and then do it will the nvidia driver not be affected
[22:20] <Scunizi> did you install the nvidia driver using the hardware drivers tool in Kubuntu or did you download it from nvidia/
[22:20] <Scunizi> ?
[22:20] <Viperisthebest> i downloaded it
[22:22] <Scunizi> after the upgrade you'll have to re-install the driver.  so make sure you have already downloaded the driver you want to reinstall to make things easier.. if something happens during the upgrade and leaves you with a terminal prompt it can be a pain navigating the web with a cli browser. and using wget to download the binary.
[22:23] <Viperisthebest> k i have to go now
[22:24] <Scunizi> good luck.. sometimes it's easier just to reinstall fresh using your old /home with all your data
[22:41] <twobitsprite> so, I'm running ubuntu, but I installed the kubuntu desktop. When I log out, and then log in with KDE, my wireless network doesn't come up... am I missing like a KDE version of the network manager thing or something?
[22:43] <well_laid_lawn> twobitsprite: there's knetworkmanager for kde as default
[22:44] <twobitsprite> ok, I have that installed
[22:45] <twobitsprite> but I don't see an icon or anything
[22:49] <well_laid_lawn> it should be in kmenu
[22:50] <well_laid_lawn> or in the taskbar
[22:50] <draik> Anyone know of a channel for assistance with IMAP via TELNET?
[22:53] <amichair> does anyone know how to fix video tearing on a twinview setup?
[22:54] <draik> amichair: I had an issue with the dual monitor setup that I had. I just rebooted and everything was working again.
[22:54] <amichair> draik: I have tearing for months now...