[03:40] <litropy> Hi, peeps. In Unity's applications finder, the search feature doesn't work well. For instance, even though I have chatzilla(seamonkey), and it does appear within the INternet category, when I search for "Chatzilla", the program shows up under the second line, which needs a plus sign click to see. Search should returen program name matched first.
[04:18] <Volkodav> http://pastebin.com/QJqM8yiV can someone look what's wrong here in splash and wallpaper lines please ?
[06:50] <Volkodav> looks like vlc 1.1.2 supports GPU acceleration finally
[06:50] <Volkodav> and xine too
[08:08] <Volkodav> but the best performance so far I noticed on smplayer - the lowest CPU usage of all on GPU acceleration !
[10:52] <om26er> can I upgrade a lucid machine to maverick alpha3 from cd?
[10:53] <om26er> *without booting from cd
[10:53] <SwedeMike> om26er: yes?
[10:54] <SwedeMike> om26er: update-manager -d like always?
[10:54] <om26er> SwedeMike: I dont want to download stuff as I have the cd
[10:54] <om26er> update-manager -d asked to download
[10:55] <yofel> hm, you could mount the cd and copy the .debs from there, like that you won't have to download everything
[10:55] <SwedeMike> om26er: ah, I got confused by the *, thought you wanted to replace "from cd"
[10:57] <SwedeMike> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=339068 talks about "apt-cdrom", you could start looking from there?
[12:25] <penguin42> anyone seeing issues with metacity sometimes coming up without all your workspaces?
[13:21] <Glowball> The "Please offer me non-open-source software if it is needed for a better experience" thingie, will it actually install packages or just activate the multiverse/partner repositories?
[13:26] <ZykoticK9> Glowball, i'm not sure where you see that - but i'm guessing that might be driver related?  (it's not partner for sure)
[13:28] <Glowball> ZykoticK9: from this screenshot of the new installer for Maverick: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/TF3q8eEADMI/AAAAAAAAJM4/MKImVVXDDoE/s1600/Install_016.png
[13:28] <Glowball> (Source: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/redesigned-installer-lands-in-maverick.html)
[13:29] <ZykoticK9> Glowball, i didn't even notice that.  but it suggests MP3 codec, not sure what else that applies too.
[13:30] <Glowball> Adobe Flash? Sun Java (or should I say Oracle now? That doesn't sound too well) instead of IcedTea? Maybe libdvdcss2?
[13:30] <Glowball> Can think of a couple of things
[13:48] <BUGabundo> guud afternoon
[13:49] <BUGabundo> Jordan_U: funny enough there was an update on avidemux today
[14:23] <BUGabundo> $  ffmpeg -formats FFmpeg version 0.6-4:0.6-2ubuntu2, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers  built on Jul 12 2010 01:02:52 with gcc 4.4.4
[14:23] <BUGabundo>   configuration: --extra-version=4:0.6-2ubuntu2 --prefix=/usr --enable-avfilter --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-vdpau --enable-bzlib --enable-libgsm --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-vaapi --enable-pthreads --enable-zlib --enable-libvpx --disable-stripping --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-x11grab --enable-libdc1394 --enable-shared --disable-static
[14:23] <BUGabundo>   WARNING: library configuration mismatch
[14:23] <BUGabundo> this can't be a good thing, can it ?
[14:24] <penguin42> doesn't sound good
[14:24] <penguin42> be nice if it told you which one
[14:25] <BUGabundo> I wonder if this has something to do with my enconding probs
[14:26] <BUGabundo>  D  aac             raw ADTS AAC
[14:26] <BUGabundo> this surelly doesn't help
[14:26] <BUGabundo> hence Unknown encoder 'libfaac'
[14:27]  * penguin42 is currently trying to build a FreePascal program - I haven't touched pascal in years
[14:28] <BUGabundo> penguin42: protip NO ONE has
[14:28]  * BUGabundo hides
[14:28]  * yofel last touched it list about 5 years ago ^^
[14:28] <yofel> -list
[14:28] <penguin42> BUGabundo: I would have agreed; but there is a hamradio logging program (cqrlog) that my dad was trying to use and it had a slight UI issue he didn't like and I thought - sounds an easy one to fix - and then found it was written in Pascal
[14:29] <penguin42> it was only written ~3 years ago as well
[14:29] <yofel> penguin42: where's the code, now I'm curious ^^
[14:30] <penguin42> yofel: http://www.cqrlog.com/?q=node/4   and get the cqrlog_0.9.4_source.tar.gz
[14:32]  * penguin42 is hitting library and compiler version issues building it; it builds with Free Pascal and an environment called lazarus both of which are in ubuntu repos; but the Free pascal is newer than it expects, and it also needs two non packaged libraries that I've built; unfortunately it looks like one is newer than it was expecting
[14:32] <BUGabundo> penguin42: yofel: before some one else does it: !offtopic :P
[14:32] <penguin42> erm I'm trying to build it on Maverick?
[14:32] <BUGabundo> ahah
[14:32]  * BUGabundo steps back
[14:33] <penguin42> (Ok OK - so I don't think it's any different on Maverick from Lucid...)
[14:33] <BUGabundo> ehe or any Ubuntu release .:P
[14:34] <penguin42> well, it might have been easier in Karmic and earlier before fpc 2.4.x came along
[14:35] <BUGabundo> "Note: The libavcodec-extra-52 package for Lucid and Karmic do not support AAC or AMR formats. I recommend using libavcodec-extra-52 from the Medibuntu repository. See option C. Medibuntu."
[14:35] <BUGabundo> MAUAUAUA
[14:35] <BUGabundo> I have it, and still doesn't work
[14:36] <penguin42> yofel: It was one of those things where I grabbed that source tar, untared it and went wth....
[14:39] <BUGabundo> Done. The new package has been installed and saved to
[14:39] <BUGabundo>  /home/bugabundo/x264/x264_0.104.1688+git0b36c6d-1_amd64.deb
[14:39] <BUGabundo> ok, lets see if this help
[14:39] <yofel> ah, the naming is just great 'MenuItem10' up to 'MenuItem82'  (*faint headbanging can be heard...*)
[14:40] <penguin42> yofel: Oh, I think that's because it's from an IDE - the lazarus-ide seems to be pretty neat
[14:40] <BUGabundo> wow having to compile enconders....
[14:40] <BUGabundo> never though I would eventually come to a point I would have to grab something from source in Ubuntu just to encode a video :(
[14:41] <BUGabundo> sad day this is
[14:41] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Not in a medibuntu repo?
[14:41] <BUGabundo> I have it
[14:41] <BUGabundo> and doesn't fix my prob
[14:41] <BUGabundo> so its either wrong compiled version
[14:41] <BUGabundo> or bug in WDTV firmware
[14:43] <BUGabundo> ERROR: libvpx decoder version must be >=0.9.1
[14:43] <BUGabundo> mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[14:43] <BUGabundo> can't even follow a step by step
[14:45] <penguin42> anyone know how to get svn log to show the actual diffs?
[14:46] <BUGabundo> svn log rev1 rev2 ?
[14:46] <penguin42> that shows what changed and the messages but not the actual diff
[14:46] <yofel> I don't think that's possible, use svn diff
[14:47] <yofel> svn diff -r 10:11
[14:47] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, you might want to use the built-in vp8 decoder in ffmpeg rather than the external libvpx
[14:48] <penguin42> pity, I just wanted to browse backwards through this interface until I could understand what had happened
[14:48] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[14:48] <bjsnider> whatever tickles your funny bone
[14:49]  * BUGabundo googles wdtv passthrough videos run fast and audio out of sync
[14:50] <BUGabundo> ahh http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=331.msg2061#msg2061
[14:51] <BUGabundo> |  + Default duration: 41.708ms (23.976 fps for a video track)
[14:52] <BUGabundo> doesn't help, video is already 24fps
[14:53] <yofel> oh great, they splitted lazarus-ide into lazarus-ide/lazarus-ide-qt4/lazarus-ide-gtk2 in debian but messed up: lazarus-ide-qt4 can't be used without lazarus-ide-gtk2 because it depends on a symlink only created by the gtk package *-.-
[14:54]  * yofel goes to bugs.debian.org
[15:00] <yofel> erm, wait...
[15:00] <yofel> it actually seems like the qt4 ide is missing from the package...
[15:01] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[15:35] <penguin42> Is anyone getting Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1  after every apt-get ?
[15:36] <yofel> yep
[15:36] <Ian_corne> Same here penguin42
[15:37] <penguin42> ah, it's 613412
[15:39] <BUGabundo> penguin42: me
[15:40] <BUGabundo> its reported
[15:41] <yofel> iirc you can install packagekit-backend-aptcc and the message should go away
[15:42] <BUGabundo> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:42] <BUGabundo>   bzr-dbus{u} libavfilter1{u} libgnomecups1.0-1{u} libgnomeprint2.2-0{u} libgnomeprintui2.2-0{u} python-bugbuddy{u} python-evince{u}   python-evolution{u} python-gnome2-desktop{u} python-gnomedesktop{u} python-gnomeprint{u} python-gtop{u} python-mediaprofiles{u} python-metacity{u}   python-totem-plparser{u}
[15:42] <BUGabundo> don't think that's a GOOD idea
[15:43] <yofel> nice :D
[15:45] <pvandewyngaerde> recently i noticed python updated,  now when i do sudo add-apt-repository i get : /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py:114: DeprecationWarning: Attribute 'FindI' of the 'apt_pkg.Configuration' object is deprecated, use 'find_i' instead.
[15:45] <pvandewyngaerde>   value = apt_pkg.Config.FindI(softwareproperties.CONF_MAP[option])
[15:45] <pvandewyngaerde> /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py:43: DeprecationWarning: Attribute 'FindDir' of the 'apt_pkg.Configuration' object is deprecated, use 'find_dir' instead.
[15:45] <pvandewyngaerde>   sourceslistd = apt_pkg.Config.FindDir("Dir::Etc::sourceparts")
[15:49]  * BUGabundo teachs pvandewyngaerde about pastebin
[15:51] <yofel> pvandewyngaerde: bug 594368 ?
[15:52] <yofel> and bug 593484
[15:53] <pvandewyngaerde> i was running on terminal
[15:53] <yofel> doesn't matter, same library
[16:01] <penguin42> anyone done kernel ppas ?
[16:02] <pvandewyngaerde> i just tried to add a kernel ppa
[16:05] <BUGabundo> not recently
[16:09] <penguin42> they don't seem to use quilt or anything similar - do you just patch it and use debuild ?
[16:19] <penguin42> The ubuntu-kernel guys are saying they prefer to wait for my patch to hit 2.6.35.1 rather than put it in as an ubuntu patch which is kind of annoying since that means I have to rebuild for each prior version
[16:19] <penguin42> subsequent even
[16:26] <BUGabundo> taking a quick look at installed local and obsolete, it frees up 1.7GBs :S
[16:27] <BUGabundo> then again I had like 8 kernel in there
[16:31] <duffydack> BUGabundo, got your mkv sorted yet
[16:32] <BUGabundo> nope
[16:32] <BUGabundo> tried your tip, and didn't work either
[16:32] <BUGabundo> complains on libfaac
[16:32] <BUGabundo> manage to compile all from source (it was missing a dir) still no go
[16:32] <BUGabundo>  D  aac             raw ADTS AAC
[16:33] <duffydack> must be something off with the source file then
[16:33] <BUGabundo> $  ffmpeg -formats FFmpeg version 0.6-4:0.6-2ubuntu2, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers  built on Jul 12 2010 01:02:52 with gcc 4.4.4
[16:33] <BUGabundo> configuration: --extra-version=4:0.6-2ubuntu2 --prefix=/usr --enable-avfilter --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-vdpau --enable-bzlib --enable-libgsm --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-vaapi --enable-pthreads --enable-zlib --enable-libvpx --disable-stripping --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-x11grab --enable-libdc1394 --enable-shared --disable-static
[16:33] <BUGabundo> WARNING: library configuration mismatch
[16:33] <BUGabundo> let me pastebin the mmg of it
[16:33] <duffydack> built on jul 12?  I made mine yesterday
[16:34] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/474991/
[16:34] <BUGabundo> duffydack: that was stock ffmpeg
[16:34] <BUGabundo> so yeah, maverick archive are a bit old
[16:37] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, --disable-libvpx
[16:37] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: for ?
[16:37] <bjsnider> it will build the internal ffvpx or whatever it's called instead
[16:37] <BUGabundo> that's what ever ubuntu has *ǹow*
[16:38] <duffydack> its not compiled with libfaac
[16:38] <BUGabundo> what about lame?
[16:38] <BUGabundo> can I use it ?
[16:38] <sinurge> by default the sound button is mute on the mm alpha3 version....is this by design?
[16:38] <duffydack> FFmpeg version SVN-r24737, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers
[16:38] <duffydack>   built on Aug  7 2010 20:14:12 with gcc 4.4.3
[16:38] <duffydack>   configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-nonfree --enable-postproc --enable-pthreads --enable-libfaac --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --enable-x11grab
[16:38] <bjsnider> and disable libvorbis too
[16:39] <BUGabundo> sinurge: actually *today* sound was UNmuted
[16:39] <BUGabundo> for the 1st time since before A1
[16:39] <bjsnider> acually got that backwards, use enable libvorbis and --disable-encoder=vorbis
[16:39] <BUGabundo> so if A3 is older then today, it was *finally* fixed
[16:40] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: so should we file a bug to update the ffmpeg source and enable both options?
[16:40] <bjsnider> hahaa
[16:40] <bjsnider> it's always about filing bugs with you
[16:40] <BUGabundo> well, its all I can do
[16:40] <bjsnider> run ./configure--help
[16:40] <BUGabundo> I don't usually go much further then that
[16:40] <bjsnider> run ./configure --help
[16:41] <bjsnider> and look for ffvpx or ffvp8
[16:41] <BUGabundo> and really want to use stock as much as I can, so I can help make Ubuntu better
[16:41] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: already did that.... compiled from source, following the forum thread
[16:41] <BUGabundo> still, the files I made, would NOT play fine in my WDTV
[16:42] <BUGabundo> and ins some combinations libfaac would not work
[16:42] <duffydack> your ffmpeg doesnt have it
[16:43] <BUGabundo> you never saw _mine_
[16:43] <BUGabundo> what I posted as from stock
[16:43] <bjsnider> he's using the build flag to enable libfaac
[16:44] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, what are you actually trying to accomplish?
[16:44] <BUGabundo> I'm using what ever ubuntu maverick (or medibuntu) provides
[16:45] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: reenconde a video file in passthrough mode so I can change the audio from DTS 6.1 to stereo in any kind of format supported by WDTV media player
[16:45] <duffydack> I assumed what you posted up there was yours (why wouldnt I )   well, idk then.. I just compiled mine with all in inc libfaac and it worked..
[16:45] <BUGabundo> 1st shot was with avidemux
[16:45] <BUGabundo> but fixed gets acelerated and audio glitchs
[16:46] <bjsnider> what is wdtv media player?
[16:46] <BUGabundo> duffydack: I have all the sources compliled here, I can reinstall if you want to see
[16:46] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/wdtv/
[16:46] <bjsnider> if it doesn't support dts you should send it back and buy a popcorn hour instead
[16:47] <bjsnider> that's ridiculous
[16:47] <BUGabundo> it does
[16:47] <BUGabundo> just doesn't support more then stereo
[16:47] <bjsnider> pch does
[16:47] <BUGabundo> there 2gen devices do too
[16:48] <BUGabundo> but mine is older
[16:48] <BUGabundo> http://www.wdc.com/en/products/index.asp?cat=30
[16:48] <bjsnider> dts isn't even supposed to come in anything less than 5.1
[16:48] <duffydack> BUGabundo, can you cut me a 1-2 min sample off your source file to try an encode myself...
[16:48] <BUGabundo> if I use the optical output I can use it in a decoder
[16:48] <BUGabundo> but I have none
[16:48] <BUGabundo> duffydack: ofc
[16:49] <BUGabundo> what's the best way to split it without damaging its props?
[16:49] <BUGabundo> I would just use "split" but will miss some frames
[16:49] <duffydack> ugh, ill have to look at the options in ffmpeg for snippin.
[16:50] <duffydack> unless avidemux has it
[16:50] <duffydack> idk i dont use
[16:50] <BUGabundo> duffydack: FYI I have not prob in using *any* of the video tools, and making a playing video, in Ubuntu. totem, mplayer, vlc all work... just won't in WDTV
[16:50]  * BUGabundo opens avidemux
[16:51] <duffydack> ffmpeg -i input.mkv -vcodec copy -acodec copy -t 00:01:00 output.mkv might do it
[16:52] <BUGabundo> Encoder (codec id 0) not found for output stream #0.2
[16:52] <BUGabundo> ehe missed subs
[16:52] <BUGabundo> -scodec copy
[16:52] <BUGabundo> [matroska @ 0x1a21030]st:1 error, non monotone timestamps 85 >= 85
[16:52] <BUGabundo> av_interleaved_write_frame(): Operation not permitted
[16:53] <duffydack> wow, i just tried it with an avi and the outut audio was screwed
[16:53] <Volkodav> http://pastebin.com/GnCenhzZ  I ran this script and it seems I boot using the grub from sdb since it is marked first in BIOS - now I edit /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme for wallpaper and splash - the file seems ok to me http://pastebin.com/Dein1Asd but no changes are really made so I think I am editing the wrong grub?
[16:53] <duffydack> that 23fps might be the problem then... this avi is 23
[16:55] <BUGabundo> well avidemux does nothing either
[16:56] <BUGabundo> set selection to a 1 min sample and everything else in copy mode
[17:02] <duffydack> I`ll try avidemux
[17:07] <BUGabundo> running avidemux in console, and logging the output
[17:11] <duffydack> well I could do the avi in avidemux mainly because the audio is vbr and it indexed it..
[17:12] <BUGabundo> [lavc] Cannot parallelize deblocking type 1, decoding such frames in sequential order
[17:12] <BUGabundo> [lavc] Err: 894, size: 894 [lavc] error in FFMP43/mpeg4!: got picture
[17:12] <BUGabundo>  ***oops*** [lavc] Err: 37, size: 37
[17:13] <BUGabundo> duffydack: $ pastebinit avide  http://paste.ubuntu.com/475004/
[17:34] <duffydack> what happens when you ffmpeg -i input.mkv -vn -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ab 128k -t 00:01:00 out.mp4
[17:34] <duffydack> whats the audio like..(audio only0
[17:35] <duffydack> using 'copy' to get a sample I get bad audio, must be the vbr thing, but if I encode it its fine...
[17:42] <duffydack> ok, you can try the split command.  split -b 10M input.mkv     (will make a lot of files!) but the first 10meg file is playable.. for me
[18:01] <BUGabundo> bbl
[18:03] <PingJocky> was there any change to any intel graphics drivers from Alpha 2 to alpha 3?
[18:05] <penguin42> PingJocky: I can see in the current kernel changelog there was a recent revert of an i915 thing
[18:05] <penguin42> actually a few in the last week
[18:07] <PingJocky> ok, thanks... my intel is working in alpha 2 but x fails to start in alpha 3
[18:08] <PingJocky> looks like its bug report time... thanks for the help
[18:09] <Volkodav> N: Ignoring file 'ricotz-ppa-maverick.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[18:10] <Volkodav> I am getting this error on almost all third parties repos ?
[18:13] <geser> it's from the backup copies of those sources.list entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:13] <penguin42> Volkodav: Yeh I got that, the update has dumped a lot of .save files in the apt dirs
[18:14] <geser> if you are sure that you don't need those copies anymore you can remove them and the notice (N:) will be gone
[18:14] <Volkodav> well if there aRE both deb abd source then all good
[18:14] <Volkodav> if only deb without source it errors out
[18:18] <penguin42> hmm curious, just started a kvm guest and my screen has gone blank and X stopped - machine still seems to be running though
[18:19] <Daekdroom> Volkodav, that bug has been reported already.
[18:19] <Daekdroom> Should be fixed soon.
[18:24] <penguin42> hmm that's a very odd crash
[18:24] <Volkodav> http://pastebin.com/GnCenhzZ  I ran this script and it seems I boot using the grub from sdb since it is marked first in BIOS - now I edit /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme for wallpaper and splash - the file seems ok to me http://pastebin.com/Dein1Asd but no changes are really made so I think I am editing the wrong grub?
[18:25] <Ian_corne> could be you have to rerun grub
[18:25] <Ian_corne> so it creates the correct /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[18:27] <Volkodav> weird thing is that when I edit grub some things change and some don't
[18:28] <penguin42> you have to run update-grub
[18:28] <Volkodav> i did obviously
[18:28] <Ian_corne> I thought wallpapers and stuff were disabled upstream
[18:28] <penguin42> ok
[18:28] <Ian_corne> something I heard
[18:28] <Volkodav> oh that explains that then
[18:29] <Volkodav> nothing to worry about then
[18:50] <penguin42> wth is libvirt trying to access /dev/fb0
[18:50] <Volkodav> GPU acceleration on smplayer beats all other players
[18:51] <Volkodav> I have 1080p now with CPU averaging around 20% - used to be in 70's
[18:54] <penguin42> anyone know of a simple sdl test?
[18:56] <penguin42> ok, that's weird - sdl kvm broken
[18:59] <LucidFox> Volkodav> That's not smplayer's achievement, smplayer is merely a frontend for mplayer :)
[18:59] <LucidFox> if you use VA-API/VDPAU, you can offload your CPU even more
[19:00] <Volkodav> right - and it has vdpau output
[19:00] <Machtin> hm, can i somehow check if TRIM is working?
[19:01] <Volkodav> Machtin: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-812509-highlight-ssd+trim.html
[19:02] <Volkodav> try this but trim needs time idling to do garbage collection
[19:02] <Volkodav> it does not happen immediately]
[19:02] <Machtin> will check, thanks
[19:07] <coz_> hey guys.... is sudo update-manager -d  ok for upgrading and... I am on edubuntu...last time I did update-manager -d  of course some of the edubuntu stuff was not upgraded
[19:07] <coz_> any way around that?
[19:08] <mhb> how to upgrad ubuntu 10.4.to 10.10
[19:09] <mhb> how to upgrad ubuntu 10.4.to 10.10
[19:09] <charlie-tca> !upgrade
[19:09] <Volkodav> Ian_corne: so at some point closer to beta or rc the theming and all should be enabled right ?
[19:09] <charlie-tca> coz
[19:10] <charlie-tca> coz_: Not sure there is any way some of it not upgrading. Most of it is added to the existing desktop, isn't it?
[19:11] <charlie-tca> with or without sudo should result in the same applications upgrading or not upgrading
[19:11] <coz_> charlie-tca,  well last time I did this in edubuntu some things were gone ...edubuntu plymouth  and a few other things...not big issues just irrittaing things :)
[19:12] <charlie-tca> yup. It really gets a bit frustrating, too, at times.
[19:12] <coz_> charlie-tca,  :)
[19:19] <Ian_corne> Volkodav: What i've heard (and it's a while back) is that it's really upstream
[19:19] <Ian_corne> so nothing ubuntu does changes it
[19:21] <Volkodav> define upstream pleaee
[19:24] <philip___> now upgrading. Good luck to me :)
[19:30] <Daekdroom> Volkodav, upstream means the work is done at the project. Downstream means the work is done at the distribution
[19:31] <Daekdroom> Volkodav, when he said it's really done upstream, he means that ubuntu doesn't do anything to change it
[19:31] <Volkodav> ok thanks
[19:38] <Volkodav> Daekdroom: we are talking about grub2 right ?
[22:26] <jamalta> Hi, I am trying to get Maverick running on my netbook but I am having some difficulty getting the Live USB to boot. It basically gets to the Ubuntu logo with the dots, and then stops.
[22:26] <jamalta> How can I get more information as to what could be crashing to help me figure out a solution?
[22:26] <jamalta> Oh, just realized that ctrl+alt+f1 throws me in a terminal
[22:28] <jamalta> Could someone help me figure out what to do to get it to start gdm? service gdm restart fails
[22:37] <robin0800> jamalta try startx
[22:38] <jamalta> robin0800: hm. i get a bunch of squashf errors
[22:38] <jamalta> squashfs_read_data failed to read block 0x22b71f7b
[22:38] <jamalta> could that mean that my usb image is broken?
[22:39] <robin0800> jamalta or disk errors
[22:40] <jamalta> well if i'm booting from the live usb, shouldn't it be trying to read from there?
[22:40] <jamalta> the harddrive on the laptop doesn't even have ubuntu
[22:40] <jamalta> or do you mean in the actual usb drive?