| anon^_^ | Hi, question for devs. Recently a few patches were submitted to LKML to try and address a long standing issue with desktop responsiveness under heavy i/o disk activity | 00:14 |
|---|---|---|
| anon^_^ | any possibility that these patches will be backported for the next Ubuntu release? | 00:15 |
| anon^_^ | references | 00:15 |
| anon^_^ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131094 | 00:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 131094 in linux (Ubuntu) "Heavy Disk I/O harms desktop responsiveness" [Medium,Confirmed] | 00:15 |
| anon^_^ | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ3OQ | 00:15 |
| lifeless | #ubuntu-kernel may know more | 00:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i suspect plenty of people have probably already asked them the same question | 00:16 |
| anon^_^ | it's only been a few days since the initial post | 00:16 |
| anon^_^ | but yes, assume it might have been asked already | 00:17 |
| anon^_^ | will try ubuntu-kernel, thanks lifeless | 00:17 |
| === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq | ||
| weedar | I believe this package is synced from Debian, but if so why is the maintainer "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" and not the same as the Debian-maintainer? http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/lucid/openbios-sparc | 07:16 |
| ebroder | Because the "Maintainer" field on that page is automatically calculated based on what component the package is in | 07:17 |
| ebroder | See also the "Original Maintainer" field below it | 07:17 |
| ebroder | If you actually grab and look at the package, the maintainer field hasn't been changed | 07:18 |
| ebroder | If I had to guess, it's a measure to keep random users from e-mailing cranky DDs with Ubuntu problems | 07:19 |
| weedar | ebroder: Thanks :) | 07:21 |
| weedar | If I would like to become maintainer for the package in Ubuntu, should I mail the MOTU mailing-list or contact someone else? | 07:23 |
| micahg | weedar: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbios-sparc | 07:23 |
| micahg | weedar: we don't have maintainers in Ubuntu | 07:24 |
| micahg | well generally | 07:24 |
| ebroder | We do have a concept of per-package upload permissions, although getting those is generally less common than just joining MOTU | 07:25 |
| weedar | micahg: The source package you linked to has "Failed to build"-messages for all releases from Hardy to Maverick, and there is no installation-candidate for the binary version - naturally I want to fix this :-) | 07:26 |
| ebroder | weedar: That's great! You don't have to be the maintainer to do that, though | 07:26 |
| ebroder | weedar: File bugs against the package, develop patches, test them in a PPA, then go through the sponsorship process to get them uploaded by a MOTU | 07:27 |
| ebroder | !sponsorship | weedar | 07:27 |
| micahg | weedar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 07:27 |
| maco | weedar: you can bzr branch lp:ubuntu/openbios-sparc and then fix it and push it to lp:~weedar/ubuntu/openbios-sparc/buildnow or make a debdiff and attach it to a "ftbfs" bug and subscribe sponsors or ask in #ubuntu-motu | 07:28 |
| weedar | ebroder: sounds good :) | 07:28 |
| weedar | maco: I think I'll start by asking in #ubuntu-motu, but thank you for a summary of my options :) | 07:30 |
| maco | well asking in #ubuntu-motu is a way to find a sponsor | 07:31 |
| maco | /after/ you make changes in either a branch or a debdiff | 07:31 |
| ebroder | Ugh. I really need to get a trustworthy Ubuntu box running so I can do sponsorship again | 07:31 |
| maco | but folks in there can help you if you have questions while doing one of those | 07:31 |
| maco | ebroder: so in the midst of everything moving around... where is the sponsor queue based these days? | 07:35 |
| maco | i remember dholbach was working on a new one...where'd he put it? | 07:35 |
| micahg | maco: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 07:35 |
| maco | thanks | 07:35 |
| maco | im on a new laptop with no bookmarks set yet too :P | 07:36 |
| ebroder | Ugh. It's still impossible to find MOTU bugs in that list. Even "unseeded" isn't what you want | 07:38 |
| maco | its not? | 07:39 |
| maco | i thought in theory universe was now just anything-not-seeded | 07:39 |
| maco | though i guess maybe that only goes into effect for maverick now | 07:39 |
| ebroder | Unless it's gotten better in the last ~month or so, there are still unseeded packages in main/restricted | 07:39 |
| ebroder | I guess honestly I've been too busy with other stuff lately to pay good attention. So I'll stop whining until I make sure my information is current | 07:40 |
| maco | i see a distinct lack of motu things to sponsor though | 07:41 |
| maco | like...maybe 4? | 07:41 |
| maco | i see an unseeded branch for flash-kernel in main, so i guess you're right | 07:42 |
| tumbleweed | maco: yeah almost all the unseeded stuff that's left in the queue isn't actually sponsorable by MOTUs | 08:21 |
| ebroder | I can't remember - is anything that *is* seeded in main by definition? | 08:24 |
| ScottK | ebroder: If it's seeded for Ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Server, UNE, or Kubuntu yes. If it's seeded for other flavors, no. | 08:31 |
| ebroder | ScottK: So if something is seeded to, say, mythbuntu, that's a MOTU package? That's...even more confusing | 08:32 |
| maco | ebroder: i think mythbuntu is a "maybe" :-/ | 08:34 |
| ScottK | Mythbuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu are built out of Main and Universe (and in the case of Mythbuntu and Ubuntu Studio, Multiverse too). | 08:34 |
| ebroder | Oww | 08:34 |
| ScottK | Mythbuntu also has a package set, so some of it is (IIRC) only uploadable by Mythbuntu or core-dev. | 08:34 |
| ScottK | We should be building Kubuntu Mobile images soon. Those will come from Main, Restricted, and Universe. | 08:35 |
| ScottK | There's also Lubuntu that's built from Main, Restricted, Universe, and Multiverse. | 08:35 |
| ScottK | But wait, there's more. | 08:36 |
| ebroder | So what I think you're telling me is...the sponsorship queue gives me NO information about what I can and can't upload | 08:36 |
| ScottK | No. It doesn't. | 08:36 |
| ebroder | :-/ | 08:36 |
| maco | insentive to become a core dev? | 08:37 |
| maco | "so the sponsor queue stops wasting my time" | 08:37 |
| tumbleweed | ebroder: also, it seems to misdetect seeding when a pacage has migrated into / out of main | 08:37 |
| * micahg hopes that the new installer really doesn't say Please off me non-open-source software | 09:08 | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq | ||
| pkkm | When will bookmarks synchronization in Ubuntu One be up? | 13:27 |
| Yura87 | Hi. | 15:12 |
| Yura87 | Ubuntu (at least back at 8.x) has the user to find out the mac address for eth# setup. Puppy Linux has it nicer. | 15:13 |
| Chipzz | Yura87: heh? | 15:14 |
| Yura87 | In Puppy, it retrieves the mac address automatically, you just click "eth0" > "static" and change "my IP", "gateway" and "DNS 1" according to your LAN setup. | 15:14 |
| Yura87 | #puppylinux | 15:15 |
| Chipzz | Yura87: 1) 8.x is stable, and stable support is in #ubuntu; 2) what on EARTH are you talking about??? AFAIK you do NOT have to enter your MAC address anywhere??? | 15:15 |
| Chipzz | Yura87: 8.x is oldstable even | 15:16 |
| Yura87 | I didn't look at recent releases, so idk. But manuals for april-8 stable say you must take mac address from cmdline or something, to paste to eth# setup | 15:17 |
| Chipzz | heh? | 15:17 |
| Chipzz | ifconfig doesn't even take a mac adress as an argument | 15:17 |
| Chipzz | and ubuntu has a GUI for setting up networking | 15:17 |
| Chipzz | please paste the link to where you read that?? | 15:18 |
| Yura87 | it was several days ago... something found when looking for "network setup ubuntu" on google | 15:18 |
| Chipzz | and you claim that is the ubuntu manual? | 15:19 |
| Chipzz | I severly doubt that | 15:19 |
| LucidFox | Blimey | 15:19 |
| LucidFox | Do we really need FIVE different Gmail notifiers for GNOME? | 15:19 |
| Yura87 | it's a third-party manual for ubuntu | 15:19 |
| Chipzz | Yura87: and how is a third party manual relevant here? | 15:20 |
| Chipzz | Yura87: if I write a manual about puppylinux that you have to configure your network via the command-line, does that make it the correct way to do it? I wouldn't think so... | 15:20 |
| Yura87 | well, and in Ubuntu 8 (my LiveCD), I didn't even figure out where "network setup" is. In Puppy, right-click the desktop > setup > network setup > eth# | 15:21 |
| Yura87 | so i got to inet on puppy - ok, but not on ubuntu | 15:22 |
| Chipzz | Yura87: if you want support on how to connect to the internet, take it to #ubuntu pls, it is highly off-topic here | 15:23 |
| Chipzz | and third party manuals are irrelevant | 15:24 |
| Chipzz | although I would like to see a link to it ^^ | 15:24 |
| Chipzz | to apply a cluebat to the author :P | 15:24 |
| === hrw|gone is now known as hrw | ||
| hrw | hi | 17:28 |
| hrw | I have a problem with PPA build: "/usr/bin/pkgsanitychecks: inconsistent /CurrentlyBuilding file, Package: value is armel-cross-toolchain (should be linux) | 17:28 |
| hrw | I have a problem with PPA build: "/usr/bin/pkgsanitychecks: inconsistent /CurrentlyBuilding file, Package: value is armel-cross-toolchain (should be linux)" - the problem is that I need to do builds of other packages during build of mine. | 17:29 |
| geser | pitti: ^^ any idea on this? | 17:39 |
| geser | hrw: you need to wait on pitti coming back from weekend | 17:40 |
| james_w | hrw: set NO_PKG_MANGLE=1 during those other builds, or something like that | 17:41 |
| geser | right, I guess that's a valid use-case for this variable too | 17:42 |
| james_w | PKG_IGNORE_CURRENTLY_BUILDING=1 perhaps | 17:43 |
| james_w | NO_PKG_MANGLE=1 it is | 17:43 |
| james_w | maybe set both to be sure | 17:43 |
| geser | pkgsanitychecks is only executed when NO_PKG_MANGLE is empty | 17:44 |
| hrw | james_w: thx | 17:53 |
| hrw | thx guys | 17:53 |
| PingJocky | is this the chanel to ask about 10.10 issues? | 17:59 |
| nigelb | that would be #ubuntu+1 | 18:00 |
| PingJocky | thanks | 18:01 |
| pitti | geser, hrw: right, you have to disable the mangler for such build; it's really an invalid file on the buildd, I'm afraid | 18:40 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| hrw | pitti: no, its my package - I am cross building binutils/eglibc/gcc/linux to build my package. I call dpkg-buildpackage 7 times | 18:55 |
| === hrw is now known as hrw|gone | ||
| === pkkm_ is now known as pkkm | ||
| janimo | hello, does anyone know why gdb is included on the liveCD (lucid)? | 21:27 |
| highvoltage | janimo: apport-gtk depends on it | 21:28 |
| highvoltage | *sigh* I hate it when people leave just as I start talking to them | 21:29 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!