[00:14] <anon^_^> Hi, question for devs. Recently a few patches were submitted to LKML to try and address a long standing issue with desktop responsiveness under heavy i/o disk activity
[00:15] <anon^_^> any possibility that these patches will be backported for the next Ubuntu release?
[00:15] <anon^_^> references
[00:15] <anon^_^> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131094
[00:15] <anon^_^> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ3OQ
[00:15] <lifeless> #ubuntu-kernel may know more
[00:16] <chrisccoulson> i suspect plenty of people have probably already asked them the same question
[00:16] <anon^_^> it's only been a few days since the initial post
[00:17] <anon^_^> but yes, assume it might have been asked already
[00:17] <anon^_^> will try ubuntu-kernel, thanks lifeless
[07:16] <weedar> I believe this package is synced from Debian, but if so why is the maintainer "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" and not the same as the Debian-maintainer? http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/lucid/openbios-sparc
[07:17] <ebroder> Because the "Maintainer" field on that page is automatically calculated based on what component the package is in
[07:17] <ebroder> See also the "Original Maintainer" field below it
[07:18] <ebroder> If you actually grab and look at the package, the maintainer field hasn't been changed
[07:19] <ebroder> If I had to guess, it's a measure to keep random users from e-mailing cranky DDs with Ubuntu problems
[07:21] <weedar> ebroder: Thanks :)
[07:23] <weedar> If I would like to become maintainer for the package in Ubuntu, should I mail the MOTU mailing-list or contact someone else?
[07:23] <micahg> weedar: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbios-sparc
[07:24] <micahg> weedar: we don't have maintainers in Ubuntu
[07:24] <micahg> well generally
[07:25] <ebroder> We do have a concept of per-package upload permissions, although getting those is generally less common than just joining MOTU
[07:26] <weedar> micahg:  The source package you linked to has "Failed to build"-messages for all releases from Hardy to Maverick, and there is no installation-candidate for the binary version - naturally I want to fix this :-)
[07:26] <ebroder> weedar: That's great! You don't have to be the maintainer to do that, though
[07:27] <ebroder> weedar: File bugs against the package, develop patches, test them in a PPA, then go through the sponsorship process to get them uploaded by a MOTU
[07:27] <ebroder> !sponsorship | weedar
[07:27] <micahg> weedar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[07:28] <maco> weedar: you can bzr branch lp:ubuntu/openbios-sparc and then fix it and push it to lp:~weedar/ubuntu/openbios-sparc/buildnow or make a debdiff and attach it to a "ftbfs" bug and subscribe sponsors or ask in #ubuntu-motu
[07:28] <weedar> ebroder: sounds good :)
[07:30] <weedar> maco: I think I'll start by asking in #ubuntu-motu, but thank you for a summary of my options :)
[07:31] <maco> well asking in #ubuntu-motu is a way to find a sponsor
[07:31] <maco> /after/ you make changes in either a branch or a debdiff
[07:31] <ebroder> Ugh. I really need to get a trustworthy Ubuntu box running so I can do sponsorship again
[07:31] <maco> but folks in there can help you if you have questions while doing one of those
[07:35] <maco> ebroder: so in the midst of everything moving around... where is the sponsor queue based these days?
[07:35] <maco> i remember dholbach was working on a new one...where'd he put it?
[07:35] <micahg> maco: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/
[07:35] <maco> thanks
[07:36] <maco> im on a new laptop with no bookmarks set yet too :P
[07:38] <ebroder> Ugh. It's still impossible to find MOTU bugs in that list. Even "unseeded" isn't what you want
[07:39] <maco> its not?
[07:39] <maco> i thought in theory universe was now just anything-not-seeded
[07:39] <maco> though i guess maybe that only goes into effect for maverick now
[07:39] <ebroder> Unless it's gotten better in the last ~month or so, there are still unseeded packages in main/restricted
[07:40] <ebroder> I guess honestly I've been too busy with other stuff lately to pay good attention. So I'll stop whining until I make sure my information is current
[07:41] <maco> i see a distinct lack of motu things to sponsor though
[07:41] <maco> like...maybe 4?
[07:42] <maco> i see an unseeded branch for flash-kernel in main, so i guess you're right
[08:21] <tumbleweed> maco: yeah almost all the unseeded stuff that's left in the queue isn't actually sponsorable by MOTUs
[08:24] <ebroder> I can't remember - is anything that *is* seeded in main by definition?
[08:31] <ScottK> ebroder: If it's seeded for Ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Server, UNE, or Kubuntu yes.  If it's seeded for other flavors, no.
[08:32] <ebroder> ScottK: So if something is seeded to, say, mythbuntu, that's a MOTU package? That's...even more confusing
[08:34] <maco> ebroder: i think mythbuntu is a "maybe" :-/
[08:34] <ScottK> Mythbuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu are built out of Main and Universe (and in the case of Mythbuntu and Ubuntu Studio, Multiverse too).
[08:34] <ebroder> Oww
[08:34] <ScottK> Mythbuntu also has a package set, so some of it is (IIRC) only uploadable by Mythbuntu or core-dev.
[08:35] <ScottK> We should be building Kubuntu Mobile images soon.  Those will come from Main, Restricted, and Universe.
[08:35] <ScottK> There's also Lubuntu that's built from Main, Restricted, Universe, and Multiverse.
[08:36] <ScottK> But wait, there's more.
[08:36] <ebroder> So what I think you're telling me is...the sponsorship queue gives me NO information about what I can and can't upload
[08:36] <ScottK> No.  It doesn't.
[08:36] <ebroder> :-/
[08:37] <maco> insentive to become a core dev?
[08:37] <maco> "so the sponsor queue stops wasting my time"
[08:37] <tumbleweed> ebroder: also, it seems to misdetect seeding when a pacage has migrated into / out of main
[09:08]  * micahg hopes that the new installer really doesn't say Please off me non-open-source software
[13:27] <pkkm> When will bookmarks synchronization in Ubuntu One be up?
[15:12] <Yura87> Hi.
[15:13] <Yura87> Ubuntu (at least back at 8.x) has the user to find out the mac address for eth# setup. Puppy Linux has it nicer.
[15:14] <Chipzz> Yura87: heh?
[15:14] <Yura87> In Puppy, it retrieves the mac address automatically, you just click "eth0" > "static" and change "my IP", "gateway" and "DNS 1" according to your LAN setup.
[15:15] <Yura87> #puppylinux
[15:15] <Chipzz> Yura87: 1) 8.x is stable, and stable support is in #ubuntu; 2) what on EARTH are you talking about??? AFAIK you do NOT have to enter your MAC address anywhere???
[15:16] <Chipzz> Yura87: 8.x is oldstable even
[15:17] <Yura87> I didn't look at recent releases, so idk. But manuals for april-8 stable say you must take mac address from cmdline or something, to paste to eth# setup
[15:17] <Chipzz> heh?
[15:17] <Chipzz> ifconfig doesn't even take a mac adress as an argument
[15:17] <Chipzz> and ubuntu has a GUI for setting up networking
[15:18] <Chipzz> please paste the link to where you read that??
[15:18] <Yura87> it was several days ago... something found when looking for "network setup ubuntu" on google
[15:19] <Chipzz> and you claim that is the ubuntu manual?
[15:19] <Chipzz> I severly doubt that
[15:19] <LucidFox> Blimey
[15:19] <LucidFox> Do we really need FIVE different Gmail notifiers for GNOME?
[15:19] <Yura87> it's a third-party manual for ubuntu
[15:20] <Chipzz> Yura87: and how is a third party manual relevant here?
[15:20] <Chipzz> Yura87: if I write a manual about puppylinux that you have to configure your network via the command-line, does that make it the correct way to do it? I wouldn't think so...
[15:21] <Yura87> well, and in Ubuntu 8 (my LiveCD), I didn't even figure out where "network setup" is. In Puppy, right-click the desktop > setup > network setup > eth#
[15:22] <Yura87> so i got to inet on puppy - ok, but not on ubuntu
[15:23] <Chipzz> Yura87: if you want support on how to connect to the internet, take it to #ubuntu pls, it is highly off-topic here
[15:24] <Chipzz> and third party manuals are irrelevant
[15:24] <Chipzz> although I would like to see a link to it ^^
[15:24] <Chipzz> to apply a cluebat to the author :P
[17:28] <hrw> hi
[17:28] <hrw> I have a problem with PPA build: "/usr/bin/pkgsanitychecks: inconsistent /CurrentlyBuilding file, Package: value is armel-cross-toolchain (should be linux)
[17:29] <hrw> I have a problem with PPA build: "/usr/bin/pkgsanitychecks: inconsistent /CurrentlyBuilding file, Package: value is armel-cross-toolchain (should be linux)" - the problem is that I need to do builds of other packages during build of mine.
[17:39] <geser> pitti: ^^ any idea on this?
[17:40] <geser> hrw: you need to wait on pitti coming back from weekend
[17:41] <james_w> hrw: set NO_PKG_MANGLE=1 during those other builds, or something like that
[17:42] <geser> right, I guess that's a valid use-case for this variable too
[17:43] <james_w> PKG_IGNORE_CURRENTLY_BUILDING=1 perhaps
[17:43] <james_w> NO_PKG_MANGLE=1 it is
[17:43] <james_w> maybe set both to be sure
[17:44] <geser> pkgsanitychecks is only executed when NO_PKG_MANGLE is empty
[17:53] <hrw> james_w: thx
[17:53] <hrw> thx guys
[17:59] <PingJocky> is this the chanel to ask about 10.10 issues?
[18:00] <nigelb> that would be #ubuntu+1
[18:01] <PingJocky> thanks
[18:40] <pitti> geser, hrw: right, you have to disable the mangler for such build; it's really an invalid file on the buildd, I'm afraid
[18:55] <hrw> pitti: no, its my package - I am cross building binutils/eglibc/gcc/linux to build my package. I call dpkg-buildpackage 7 times
[21:27] <janimo> hello, does anyone know why gdb is included on the liveCD (lucid)?
[21:28] <highvoltage> janimo: apport-gtk depends on it
[21:29] <highvoltage> *sigh* I hate it when people leave just as I start talking to them