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brandonjanybody around?00:00
dutchiebrandonj: for a bit, why?00:00
nisshhim here as well00:01
nisshhbut only for a little whil;e00:01
nisshhwhile*00:01
brandonjjust thinking that the meeting scheduled for monday is right in the middle of the work day in many places.  it probably won't be a problem for me, but it might be for others00:02
nisshhbrandonj: thats what i said in my reply00:03
nisshhbrandonj: but its not for me, thats 9pm at night00:03
brandonjyes, I just saw that00:03
nisshhyep00:03
nisshhhe is right though00:03
nisshhwe need a meeting REALLY SOON00:03
brandonjyeah00:04
brandonjI agree00:04
nisshhi think alot of us have been REALLY busy lately though00:04
nisshhnot unmotivated00:04
dutchienisshh: did you read the ML00:04
dutchieoh, sorry00:04
dutchiei had the scrollback covered by supertuxkart00:04
brandonjhahaha00:04
dutchiebrandonj: well, so far, no-one's responded with any problems00:05
nisshhhehe00:05
dutchieand, to be honest, as long as the core 5-6 can make it, i'm not so bothered about the others00:05
nisshhdutchie: well, im sure the "others" will appreciate that :)00:06
nisshhto be honest00:06
dutchietimes are tough00:06
nisshhi miss benjamins frequent motivational speeches00:06
dutchie2 months to do lucid-e2 and maverick00:06
dutchieyeah, me too nisshh00:06
nisshhdutchie: yea, about that, i think we should shove e2 aside and go straight to e200:07
nisshhoops00:07
nisshhi mean00:07
dutchienisshh: i agree00:07
nisshhstraight to maverick00:07
dutchiebut that's to be discussed in the meeting00:07
nisshhdutchie: yea, because by the time we finish e2, then it needs translating, etc00:07
nisshhediting00:07
dutchieyep00:07
nisshhdutchie: yea00:08
* dutchie does a little research00:08
dutchieone moment00:08
nisshhok00:08
brandonjfor my part that seems like the most sensible thing00:08
dutchielast ML post longer than a sentence from hbc: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/msg01949.html on thursday 10th of june00:09
nisshhwow, that was AGES ago00:11
* dutchie is currently grepping IRC logs00:12
nisshhdutchie: damn, you just made me feel really motivated, now i have to go do something :)00:12
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dutchienisshh: erm, yay00:13
nisshhheh00:13
dutchiewasn't quite my intention00:13
nisshhdutchie: i easily get motivated, its a curse :)00:14
nisshhdutchie: nah, i HAVE been doing work, all night infact00:14
dutchiei've been working hard on my solitaire solver00:14
dutchieutterly useless, but quite interesting00:15
nisshhheh00:15
nisshhdutchie: are you one of those "dammit this game is too hard *starts writing code to skip to the "you won" screen*"00:16
dutchieno, it's for statistical analsis00:17
dutchie<-- mathematician00:17
nisshhhahaha00:17
nisshhoh, ok, you were serious00:17
nisshh:)00:17
nisshhi though that was a joke born from a joke00:17
dutchiei'm even going to write a very serious blog post when it's done00:18
nisshhoh ok00:19
* nisshh trys to look sheepish00:19
nisshhthishumphreybc: whats with your nick?01:47
thishumphreybci'm on my netbook :)01:47
thishumphreybcI saw that email for re-igniting the project / staging a coup01:48
nisshhthishumphreybc: ah, good was hoping you would before monday01:48
* nisshh was the one planning the takeover01:48
thishumphreybcI can't come to the meeting though, it's at 3am my time01:48
nisshh*evil laugh*01:48
thishumphreybclol01:49
nisshhthishumphreybc: how can it be?01:49
nisshhthishumphreybc: oh01:49
thishumphreybcit's at 3pm UTC time right?01:49
thishumphreybc1500 ?01:49
* nisshh just figured it out with a calc01:49
nisshhduh01:49
nisshhyea01:49
nisshhthishumphreybc: well, since you cant come to the meeting, what do you think we should do about e2 not finished and maverick coming up?01:50
thishumphreybcwell, I think e2 isn't that bad, we fixed a few hundred bugs01:51
thishumphreybcand unfortunately we can't do much about maverick yet because there's not much to write about01:51
thishumphreybchardly anything has changed01:51
nisshhalot of UI has changed01:52
thishumphreybcmost of it has been under the surface01:52
nisshhsound menu01:52
thishumphreybcwell a couple of indicator applets01:52
nisshhmemenu01:52
thishumphreybcand then a new theme eventually01:52
nisshhsoftware centre01:52
thishumphreybcsure so we can just edit those sections01:52
nisshhyea01:52
thishumphreybcthat will maybe take a week01:52
nisshhbut what about removing the last 4 chapters01:52
nisshhtrue01:52
thishumphreybcoh yeah, forgot about htat01:52
thishumphreybca meeting would be good01:52
nisshhread: necessary01:53
thishumphreybcmaybe we should invite some of my haters along too01:53
nisshhyour haters?01:53
brandonjhaters gonna hate01:53
thishumphreybcyup!01:53
thishumphreybci have many of them01:53
thishumphreybcthey're cool01:53
nisshhwho are these haters?01:53
nisshhthishumphreybc: the big decision we need to make is whether we release e2 then maverick as planned, or we skip e2 and modify it for maverick instead01:55
dakerthishumphreybc, \o/01:55
wastrelwhat's e201:55
thishumphreybcnisshh: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-35-year-old-with-neck-beard.html01:55
brandonjlucid edition 201:55
nisshhwastrel: edition 2 :)01:55
thishumphreybcI think we can stick with the plan quite comfortably01:56
nisshhthishumphreybc: saw that thismorning01:56
dakerIMHO we should skip e201:56
nisshh:)01:56
thishumphreybcanyway, I know i've been a bit absent01:56
thishumphreybcmy own fault01:56
nisshhyea01:56
nisshhwe have all been busy01:56
thishumphreybcI don't think the team is at stake though01:56
thishumphreybcwe're still doing fine01:56
nisshhyea01:56
thishumphreybcbetter than the docs team at least :P01:56
nisshhi agree01:56
* nisshh hopes no one from the docs team reads the logs :)01:57
daker\o/01:57
brandonjI think you'll be safe. nisshh01:57
nisshhbrandonj: im more worried about thishumphreybc :)01:58
wastreli think i read that same article 10 years ago01:58
brandonjhe's used to haters by now though01:58
brandonj=P01:58
nisshhbrandonj: yea01:58
thishumphreybcI have developed a thick skin01:59
nisshhheh01:59
thishumphreybcpartly due to the cold New Zealand winters02:00
* nisshh watched the new tekken movie thismorning02:03
zkriesseSo meeting in nine hours?06:50
zkriesse15:00 UTC right?06:50
zkriesseWell in a day06:50
thorwilgood morning!09:11
popeylo09:15
trijntjeHi all, is anyone present who knows about the problems with the translations of the manual on LP?10:52
thorwildutchie, godbyk: would it make sense to write a report of the shortcomings of LP translations, as a kind of master bug report? or do you think the LP team is aware of those issues?11:14
dutchiethorwil: not sure if a bug report would be the right place12:22
thorwildutchie: didn't mean a ticket. but the report should have a similar mindset in being all about getting it fixed12:23
dutchieyeah, might be handy12:23
thorwilshould be a mail to the LP list (there is a general one?), doubled as blog post12:24
thorwildutchie: i can't write the report, as i havn't dealed with that piece of infrastructure at all. but i could bring it to the planet12:25
dutchiewiki page? etherpad document?12:28
thorwiletherpad12:28
thorwilone aspect would be a list of problems, ideally with proposed solutions12:31
thorwilanother aspect, however, is whether LP does what it should and our problems come from using the wrong tool12:32
thorwilit has to be made clear if improving LP is a valid option, if there is a better (ready) alternative, or if we absolutely need a custom solution12:34
dutchiethorwil: i think we can/should stick with LP13:03
dutchiethough i think we should persist with these new settings and see if anything breaks13:03
thorwildutchie: i have not much of a base for an own opinion there, i just see that there is lots of friction, apparently13:06
dutchiehopefully the new settings will help13:08
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nisshhhehe16:27
nisshha whole bunch of my LoCo friends are offended at benjamins blog post on OMG!, lol16:28
jenkinsthere is a thunder bug in my lcd display :/17:14
ChrisWoollardHello all20:42
c7phello all21:50
jenkinshey c7p21:51
c7pso the meeting is tomorrow, right ?21:51
jenkinsyep21:53
c7pwill godbyk make it at that time ?21:54
jenkinsi *think* its about 7am for him21:54
c7pthat's fine21:54
c7pIf the meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, I think there should be a meeting notification/reminder or something on the ML21:56
jenkinsfeel free to send one :)21:57
c7pok :)21:57
c7pjenkins: how do you get the link of a ML's mail ?22:00
jenkinsgo to the lauchpad team and look through the archives launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual22:01
jenkinsclick view archive down the bottom left direction22:02
c7pjenkins: ty22:03
jenkinsnp22:03
godbyk1500 UTC is 1000 for me, so I should be able to attend (assuming no one at work calls a more important meeting).22:13
jenkinsanyone got a good suggestion for thunder bugs inside lcd screens?22:14
godbykthunder bugs?22:14
jenkinsyea small black bugs22:14
godbykisn't it just a dead pixel?22:15
jenkinsno they are moving22:15
jenkinsthere is three of them22:15
godbykinteresting. never heard of 'em.22:16
jenkinshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrips thrip is their proper name aparently22:18
godbykdare I ask how they managed to get into your lcd screen?22:20
c7pmail's subject : "Very important meeting on Monday 9th of August" , is it ok ?22:21
jenkinsyep22:21
jenkinsgodbyk: they flew/walked in i guess22:22
jenkinsthey get in the pictures in the house in the summer its very anoying22:22
* c7p brb22:23
godbykjenkins: how strange. I figured the lcd screens were sealed.22:24
jenkins godbyk not well enough apparently22:25
infosoftjenkins: Maybe it's new Compiz effect? :D22:28
jenkinsinfosoft: i could file a bug about it :P22:28
infosoftWobbly windows + thunder bugs :)22:29
infosoftThere was one effect in E17 with bugs eating the desktop :D22:29
jenkinslol22:30
infosoftBut they were only making black holes on the desktop. The effect should be improved so that they would eat icons and etc. :)22:31
jenkinsI am hoping mine will go away tonight and not spend their time eating icons22:32
infosoftThese aren't software bugs, these are computer bugs! LOL :D22:34
jenkinsright I am off to bed as I have to get into the right sleeping pattern ready for placement.22:34
jenkinslol infosoft22:34
jenkinsnight all22:34
c7pnight jenkins22:34
infosoftYou should write bug report to computer manufacturer :D22:34
ChrisWoollardevening all. How's life.22:49
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