[00:00] anybody around? [00:00] brandonj: for a bit, why? [00:01] im here as well [00:01] but only for a little whil;e [00:01] while* [00:02] just thinking that the meeting scheduled for monday is right in the middle of the work day in many places. it probably won't be a problem for me, but it might be for others [00:03] brandonj: thats what i said in my reply [00:03] brandonj: but its not for me, thats 9pm at night [00:03] yes, I just saw that [00:03] yep [00:03] he is right though [00:03] we need a meeting REALLY SOON [00:04] yeah [00:04] I agree [00:04] i think alot of us have been REALLY busy lately though [00:04] not unmotivated [00:04] nisshh: did you read the ML [00:04] oh, sorry [00:04] i had the scrollback covered by supertuxkart [00:04] hahaha [00:05] brandonj: well, so far, no-one's responded with any problems [00:05] hehe [00:05] and, to be honest, as long as the core 5-6 can make it, i'm not so bothered about the others [00:06] dutchie: well, im sure the "others" will appreciate that :) [00:06] to be honest [00:06] times are tough [00:06] i miss benjamins frequent motivational speeches [00:06] 2 months to do lucid-e2 and maverick [00:06] yeah, me too nisshh [00:07] dutchie: yea, about that, i think we should shove e2 aside and go straight to e2 [00:07] oops [00:07] i mean [00:07] nisshh: i agree [00:07] straight to maverick [00:07] but that's to be discussed in the meeting [00:07] dutchie: yea, because by the time we finish e2, then it needs translating, etc [00:07] editing [00:07] yep [00:08] dutchie: yea [00:08] * dutchie does a little research [00:08] one moment [00:08] ok [00:08] for my part that seems like the most sensible thing [00:09] last ML post longer than a sentence from hbc: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/msg01949.html on thursday 10th of june [00:11] wow, that was AGES ago [00:12] * dutchie is currently grepping IRC logs [00:12] dutchie: damn, you just made me feel really motivated, now i have to go do something :) === daker_ is now known as daker [00:13] nisshh: erm, yay [00:13] heh [00:13] wasn't quite my intention [00:14] dutchie: i easily get motivated, its a curse :) [00:14] dutchie: nah, i HAVE been doing work, all night infact [00:14] i've been working hard on my solitaire solver [00:15] utterly useless, but quite interesting [00:15] heh [00:16] dutchie: are you one of those "dammit this game is too hard *starts writing code to skip to the "you won" screen*" [00:17] no, it's for statistical analsis [00:17] <-- mathematician [00:17] hahaha [00:17] oh, ok, you were serious [00:17] :) [00:17] i though that was a joke born from a joke [00:18] i'm even going to write a very serious blog post when it's done [00:19] oh ok [00:19] * nisshh trys to look sheepish [01:47] thishumphreybc: whats with your nick? [01:47] i'm on my netbook :) [01:48] I saw that email for re-igniting the project / staging a coup [01:48] thishumphreybc: ah, good was hoping you would before monday [01:48] * nisshh was the one planning the takeover [01:48] I can't come to the meeting though, it's at 3am my time [01:48] *evil laugh* [01:49] lol [01:49] thishumphreybc: how can it be? [01:49] thishumphreybc: oh [01:49] it's at 3pm UTC time right? [01:49] 1500 ? [01:49] * nisshh just figured it out with a calc [01:49] duh [01:49] yea [01:50] thishumphreybc: well, since you cant come to the meeting, what do you think we should do about e2 not finished and maverick coming up? [01:51] well, I think e2 isn't that bad, we fixed a few hundred bugs [01:51] and unfortunately we can't do much about maverick yet because there's not much to write about [01:51] hardly anything has changed [01:52] alot of UI has changed [01:52] most of it has been under the surface [01:52] sound menu [01:52] well a couple of indicator applets [01:52] memenu [01:52] and then a new theme eventually [01:52] software centre [01:52] sure so we can just edit those sections [01:52] yea [01:52] that will maybe take a week [01:52] but what about removing the last 4 chapters [01:52] true [01:52] oh yeah, forgot about htat [01:52] a meeting would be good [01:53] read: necessary [01:53] maybe we should invite some of my haters along too [01:53] your haters? [01:53] haters gonna hate [01:53] yup! [01:53] i have many of them [01:53] they're cool [01:53] who are these haters? [01:55] thishumphreybc: the big decision we need to make is whether we release e2 then maverick as planned, or we skip e2 and modify it for maverick instead [01:55] thishumphreybc, \o/ [01:55] what's e2 [01:55] nisshh: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-35-year-old-with-neck-beard.html [01:55] lucid edition 2 [01:55] wastrel: edition 2 :) [01:56] I think we can stick with the plan quite comfortably [01:56] thishumphreybc: saw that thismorning [01:56] IMHO we should skip e2 [01:56] :) [01:56] anyway, I know i've been a bit absent [01:56] my own fault [01:56] yea [01:56] we have all been busy [01:56] I don't think the team is at stake though [01:56] we're still doing fine [01:56] yea [01:56] better than the docs team at least :P [01:56] i agree [01:57] * nisshh hopes no one from the docs team reads the logs :) [01:57] \o/ [01:57] I think you'll be safe. nisshh [01:58] brandonj: im more worried about thishumphreybc :) [01:58] i think i read that same article 10 years ago [01:58] he's used to haters by now though [01:58] =P [01:58] brandonj: yea [01:59] I have developed a thick skin [01:59] heh [02:00] partly due to the cold New Zealand winters [02:03] * nisshh watched the new tekken movie thismorning [06:50] So meeting in nine hours? [06:50] 15:00 UTC right? [06:50] Well in a day [09:11] good morning! [09:15] lo [10:52] Hi all, is anyone present who knows about the problems with the translations of the manual on LP? [11:14] dutchie, godbyk: would it make sense to write a report of the shortcomings of LP translations, as a kind of master bug report? or do you think the LP team is aware of those issues? [12:22] thorwil: not sure if a bug report would be the right place [12:23] dutchie: didn't mean a ticket. but the report should have a similar mindset in being all about getting it fixed [12:23] yeah, might be handy [12:24] should be a mail to the LP list (there is a general one?), doubled as blog post [12:25] dutchie: i can't write the report, as i havn't dealed with that piece of infrastructure at all. but i could bring it to the planet [12:28] wiki page? etherpad document? [12:28] etherpad [12:31] one aspect would be a list of problems, ideally with proposed solutions [12:32] another aspect, however, is whether LP does what it should and our problems come from using the wrong tool [12:34] it has to be made clear if improving LP is a valid option, if there is a better (ready) alternative, or if we absolutely need a custom solution [13:03] thorwil: i think we can/should stick with LP [13:03] though i think we should persist with these new settings and see if anything breaks [13:06] dutchie: i have not much of a base for an own opinion there, i just see that there is lots of friction, apparently [13:08] hopefully the new settings will help === daker_ is now known as daker [16:27] hehe [16:28] a whole bunch of my LoCo friends are offended at benjamins blog post on OMG!, lol [17:14] there is a thunder bug in my lcd display :/ [20:42] Hello all [21:50] hello all [21:51] hey c7p [21:51] so the meeting is tomorrow, right ? [21:53] yep [21:54] will godbyk make it at that time ? [21:54] i *think* its about 7am for him [21:54] that's fine [21:56] If the meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, I think there should be a meeting notification/reminder or something on the ML [21:57] feel free to send one :) [21:57] ok :) [22:00] jenkins: how do you get the link of a ML's mail ? [22:01] go to the lauchpad team and look through the archives launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual [22:02] click view archive down the bottom left direction [22:03] jenkins: ty [22:03] np [22:13] 1500 UTC is 1000 for me, so I should be able to attend (assuming no one at work calls a more important meeting). [22:14] anyone got a good suggestion for thunder bugs inside lcd screens? [22:14] thunder bugs? [22:14] yea small black bugs [22:15] isn't it just a dead pixel? [22:15] no they are moving [22:15] there is three of them [22:16] interesting. never heard of 'em. [22:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrips thrip is their proper name aparently [22:20] dare I ask how they managed to get into your lcd screen? [22:21] mail's subject : "Very important meeting on Monday 9th of August" , is it ok ? [22:21] yep [22:22] godbyk: they flew/walked in i guess [22:22] they get in the pictures in the house in the summer its very anoying [22:23] * c7p brb [22:24] jenkins: how strange. I figured the lcd screens were sealed. [22:25] godbyk not well enough apparently [22:28] jenkins: Maybe it's new Compiz effect? :D [22:28] infosoft: i could file a bug about it :P [22:29] Wobbly windows + thunder bugs :) [22:29] There was one effect in E17 with bugs eating the desktop :D [22:30] lol [22:31] But they were only making black holes on the desktop. The effect should be improved so that they would eat icons and etc. :) [22:32] I am hoping mine will go away tonight and not spend their time eating icons [22:34] These aren't software bugs, these are computer bugs! LOL :D [22:34] right I am off to bed as I have to get into the right sleeping pattern ready for placement. [22:34] lol infosoft [22:34] night all [22:34] night jenkins [22:34] You should write bug report to computer manufacturer :D [22:49] evening all. How's life. [22:59] :[