[00:00] <brandonj> anybody around?
[00:00] <dutchie> brandonj: for a bit, why?
[00:01] <nisshh> im here as well
[00:01] <nisshh> but only for a little whil;e
[00:01] <nisshh> while*
[00:02] <brandonj> just thinking that the meeting scheduled for monday is right in the middle of the work day in many places.  it probably won't be a problem for me, but it might be for others
[00:03] <nisshh> brandonj: thats what i said in my reply
[00:03] <nisshh> brandonj: but its not for me, thats 9pm at night
[00:03] <brandonj> yes, I just saw that
[00:03] <nisshh> yep
[00:03] <nisshh> he is right though
[00:03] <nisshh> we need a meeting REALLY SOON
[00:04] <brandonj> yeah
[00:04] <brandonj> I agree
[00:04] <nisshh> i think alot of us have been REALLY busy lately though
[00:04] <nisshh> not unmotivated
[00:04] <dutchie> nisshh: did you read the ML
[00:04] <dutchie> oh, sorry
[00:04] <dutchie> i had the scrollback covered by supertuxkart
[00:04] <brandonj> hahaha
[00:05] <dutchie> brandonj: well, so far, no-one's responded with any problems
[00:05] <nisshh> hehe
[00:05] <dutchie> and, to be honest, as long as the core 5-6 can make it, i'm not so bothered about the others
[00:06] <nisshh> dutchie: well, im sure the "others" will appreciate that :)
[00:06] <nisshh> to be honest
[00:06] <dutchie> times are tough
[00:06] <nisshh> i miss benjamins frequent motivational speeches
[00:06] <dutchie> 2 months to do lucid-e2 and maverick
[00:06] <dutchie> yeah, me too nisshh
[00:07] <nisshh> dutchie: yea, about that, i think we should shove e2 aside and go straight to e2
[00:07] <nisshh> oops
[00:07] <nisshh> i mean
[00:07] <dutchie> nisshh: i agree
[00:07] <nisshh> straight to maverick
[00:07] <dutchie> but that's to be discussed in the meeting
[00:07] <nisshh> dutchie: yea, because by the time we finish e2, then it needs translating, etc
[00:07] <nisshh> editing
[00:07] <dutchie> yep
[00:08] <nisshh> dutchie: yea
[00:08]  * dutchie does a little research
[00:08] <dutchie> one moment
[00:08] <nisshh> ok
[00:08] <brandonj> for my part that seems like the most sensible thing
[00:09] <dutchie> last ML post longer than a sentence from hbc: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/msg01949.html on thursday 10th of june
[00:11] <nisshh> wow, that was AGES ago
[00:12]  * dutchie is currently grepping IRC logs
[00:12] <nisshh> dutchie: damn, you just made me feel really motivated, now i have to go do something :)
[00:13] <dutchie> nisshh: erm, yay
[00:13] <nisshh> heh
[00:13] <dutchie> wasn't quite my intention
[00:14] <nisshh> dutchie: i easily get motivated, its a curse :)
[00:14] <nisshh> dutchie: nah, i HAVE been doing work, all night infact
[00:14] <dutchie> i've been working hard on my solitaire solver
[00:15] <dutchie> utterly useless, but quite interesting
[00:15] <nisshh> heh
[00:16] <nisshh> dutchie: are you one of those "dammit this game is too hard *starts writing code to skip to the "you won" screen*"
[00:17] <dutchie> no, it's for statistical analsis
[00:17] <dutchie> <-- mathematician
[00:17] <nisshh> hahaha
[00:17] <nisshh> oh, ok, you were serious
[00:17] <nisshh> :)
[00:17] <nisshh> i though that was a joke born from a joke
[00:18] <dutchie> i'm even going to write a very serious blog post when it's done
[00:19] <nisshh> oh ok
[00:19]  * nisshh trys to look sheepish
[01:47] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: whats with your nick?
[01:47] <thishumphreybc> i'm on my netbook :)
[01:48] <thishumphreybc> I saw that email for re-igniting the project / staging a coup
[01:48] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: ah, good was hoping you would before monday
[01:48]  * nisshh was the one planning the takeover
[01:48] <thishumphreybc> I can't come to the meeting though, it's at 3am my time
[01:48] <nisshh> *evil laugh*
[01:49] <thishumphreybc> lol
[01:49] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: how can it be?
[01:49] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: oh
[01:49] <thishumphreybc> it's at 3pm UTC time right?
[01:49] <thishumphreybc> 1500 ?
[01:49]  * nisshh just figured it out with a calc
[01:49] <nisshh> duh
[01:49] <nisshh> yea
[01:50] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: well, since you cant come to the meeting, what do you think we should do about e2 not finished and maverick coming up?
[01:51] <thishumphreybc> well, I think e2 isn't that bad, we fixed a few hundred bugs
[01:51] <thishumphreybc> and unfortunately we can't do much about maverick yet because there's not much to write about
[01:51] <thishumphreybc> hardly anything has changed
[01:52] <nisshh> alot of UI has changed
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> most of it has been under the surface
[01:52] <nisshh> sound menu
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> well a couple of indicator applets
[01:52] <nisshh> memenu
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> and then a new theme eventually
[01:52] <nisshh> software centre
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> sure so we can just edit those sections
[01:52] <nisshh> yea
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> that will maybe take a week
[01:52] <nisshh> but what about removing the last 4 chapters
[01:52] <nisshh> true
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> oh yeah, forgot about htat
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> a meeting would be good
[01:53] <nisshh> read: necessary
[01:53] <thishumphreybc> maybe we should invite some of my haters along too
[01:53] <nisshh> your haters?
[01:53] <brandonj> haters gonna hate
[01:53] <thishumphreybc> yup!
[01:53] <thishumphreybc> i have many of them
[01:53] <thishumphreybc> they're cool
[01:53] <nisshh> who are these haters?
[01:55] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: the big decision we need to make is whether we release e2 then maverick as planned, or we skip e2 and modify it for maverick instead
[01:55] <daker> thishumphreybc, \o/
[01:55] <wastrel> what's e2
[01:55] <thishumphreybc> nisshh: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-35-year-old-with-neck-beard.html
[01:55] <brandonj> lucid edition 2
[01:55] <nisshh> wastrel: edition 2 :)
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> I think we can stick with the plan quite comfortably
[01:56] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: saw that thismorning
[01:56] <daker> IMHO we should skip e2
[01:56] <nisshh> :)
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> anyway, I know i've been a bit absent
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> my own fault
[01:56] <nisshh> yea
[01:56] <nisshh> we have all been busy
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> I don't think the team is at stake though
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> we're still doing fine
[01:56] <nisshh> yea
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> better than the docs team at least :P
[01:56] <nisshh> i agree
[01:57]  * nisshh hopes no one from the docs team reads the logs :)
[01:57] <daker> \o/
[01:57] <brandonj> I think you'll be safe. nisshh
[01:58] <nisshh> brandonj: im more worried about thishumphreybc :)
[01:58] <wastrel> i think i read that same article 10 years ago
[01:58] <brandonj> he's used to haters by now though
[01:58] <brandonj> =P
[01:58] <nisshh> brandonj: yea
[01:59] <thishumphreybc> I have developed a thick skin
[01:59] <nisshh> heh
[02:00] <thishumphreybc> partly due to the cold New Zealand winters
[02:03]  * nisshh watched the new tekken movie thismorning
[06:50] <zkriesse> So meeting in nine hours?
[06:50] <zkriesse> 15:00 UTC right?
[06:50] <zkriesse> Well in a day
[09:11] <thorwil> good morning!
[09:15] <popey> lo
[10:52] <trijntje> Hi all, is anyone present who knows about the problems with the translations of the manual on LP?
[11:14] <thorwil> dutchie, godbyk: would it make sense to write a report of the shortcomings of LP translations, as a kind of master bug report? or do you think the LP team is aware of those issues?
[12:22] <dutchie> thorwil: not sure if a bug report would be the right place
[12:23] <thorwil> dutchie: didn't mean a ticket. but the report should have a similar mindset in being all about getting it fixed
[12:23] <dutchie> yeah, might be handy
[12:24] <thorwil> should be a mail to the LP list (there is a general one?), doubled as blog post
[12:25] <thorwil> dutchie: i can't write the report, as i havn't dealed with that piece of infrastructure at all. but i could bring it to the planet
[12:28] <dutchie> wiki page? etherpad document?
[12:28] <thorwil> etherpad
[12:31] <thorwil> one aspect would be a list of problems, ideally with proposed solutions
[12:32] <thorwil> another aspect, however, is whether LP does what it should and our problems come from using the wrong tool
[12:34] <thorwil> it has to be made clear if improving LP is a valid option, if there is a better (ready) alternative, or if we absolutely need a custom solution
[13:03] <dutchie> thorwil: i think we can/should stick with LP
[13:03] <dutchie> though i think we should persist with these new settings and see if anything breaks
[13:06] <thorwil> dutchie: i have not much of a base for an own opinion there, i just see that there is lots of friction, apparently
[13:08] <dutchie> hopefully the new settings will help
[16:27] <nisshh> hehe
[16:28] <nisshh> a whole bunch of my LoCo friends are offended at benjamins blog post on OMG!, lol
[17:14] <jenkins> there is a thunder bug in my lcd display :/
[20:42] <ChrisWoollard> Hello all
[21:50] <c7p> hello all
[21:51] <jenkins> hey c7p
[21:51] <c7p> so the meeting is tomorrow, right ?
[21:53] <jenkins> yep
[21:54] <c7p> will godbyk make it at that time ?
[21:54] <jenkins> i *think* its about 7am for him
[21:54] <c7p> that's fine
[21:56] <c7p> If the meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, I think there should be a meeting notification/reminder or something on the ML
[21:57] <jenkins> feel free to send one :)
[21:57] <c7p> ok :)
[22:00] <c7p> jenkins: how do you get the link of a ML's mail ?
[22:01] <jenkins> go to the lauchpad team and look through the archives launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual
[22:02] <jenkins> click view archive down the bottom left direction
[22:03] <c7p> jenkins: ty
[22:03] <jenkins> np
[22:13] <godbyk> 1500 UTC is 1000 for me, so I should be able to attend (assuming no one at work calls a more important meeting).
[22:14] <jenkins> anyone got a good suggestion for thunder bugs inside lcd screens?
[22:14] <godbyk> thunder bugs?
[22:14] <jenkins> yea small black bugs
[22:15] <godbyk> isn't it just a dead pixel?
[22:15] <jenkins> no they are moving
[22:15] <jenkins> there is three of them
[22:16] <godbyk> interesting. never heard of 'em.
[22:18] <jenkins> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrips thrip is their proper name aparently
[22:20] <godbyk> dare I ask how they managed to get into your lcd screen?
[22:21] <c7p> mail's subject : "Very important meeting on Monday 9th of August" , is it ok ?
[22:21] <jenkins> yep
[22:22] <jenkins> godbyk: they flew/walked in i guess
[22:22] <jenkins> they get in the pictures in the house in the summer its very anoying
[22:23]  * c7p brb
[22:24] <godbyk> jenkins: how strange. I figured the lcd screens were sealed.
[22:25] <jenkins>  godbyk not well enough apparently
[22:28] <infosoft> jenkins: Maybe it's new Compiz effect? :D
[22:28] <jenkins> infosoft: i could file a bug about it :P
[22:29] <infosoft> Wobbly windows + thunder bugs :)
[22:29] <infosoft> There was one effect in E17 with bugs eating the desktop :D
[22:30] <jenkins> lol
[22:31] <infosoft> But they were only making black holes on the desktop. The effect should be improved so that they would eat icons and etc. :)
[22:32] <jenkins> I am hoping mine will go away tonight and not spend their time eating icons
[22:34] <infosoft> These aren't software bugs, these are computer bugs! LOL :D
[22:34] <jenkins> right I am off to bed as I have to get into the right sleeping pattern ready for placement.
[22:34] <jenkins> lol infosoft
[22:34] <jenkins> night all
[22:34] <c7p> night jenkins
[22:34] <infosoft> You should write bug report to computer manufacturer :D
[22:49] <ChrisWoollard> evening all. How's life.
[22:59] <wastrel> :[