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chrisccoulsonbobby - at startup or when viewing flash content?00:04
chrisccoulsonif it's when viewing flash content, then i already know why that's crashing00:05
bobbyNope, at startup00:05
chrisccoulsonWFM. are you sure you don't have flash content on your homepage?00:05
bobbyYeah, homepage is just my.yahoo.com00:05
bobbyI barely even see the homepage for a second00:06
bobbyNo Flash on it though00:06
chrisccoulsonthat works ok here00:06
bobbyOh, I'm on Maverick Alpha 3 BTW00:07
chrisccoulsonyeah, me too00:07
chrisccoulsonbut i know that flash definately won't work in our daily for anybody atm00:07
bobbyYeah, Flash was an issue back when in... 3.7a5 if I remember00:08
bobbyWhen it was called 3.7 at least00:08
bobbyLet me see if I can find a crash log for it...00:09
chrisccoulsonthere won't be one00:10
chrisccoulsonit's blacklisted in apport00:10
bobby... Why?00:10
chrisccoulsonbecause we're submitting crash reports directly to mozilla now. if it's crashing, you will see the mozilla crash handler00:11
bobbyYeah, I got that... Why is that? I thought it was run out of launchpad?00:11
chrisccoulsonthe crash reports for firefox are useless in launchpad00:11
bobbyAh... So you just send it to the Mozilla bug team then... Got it...00:12
bobbyWell, I'll just run Chrome for now00:12
chrisccoulsonyeah, but they aren't getting our debug symbols for the daily builds yet, so our crash reports aren't useful just yet00:12
bobbyYeah, not much use for em' then...00:13
bobbyHey, do you know anything about the UI update?00:13
chrisccoulsonit depends what you want to know00:13
bobbyAre we getting a UI update?... At all?00:13
bobbyBesides tabs on top?00:14
chrisccoulsonfrom the recent discussions, i don't think it will change much more00:14
chrisccoulsonbut i could be wrong00:14
bobbyWhat about the epic mockups?00:14
chrisccoulsonwhich ones?00:15
bobbyOn the Mozilla.org wiki?00:15
bobbyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/4.0_Linux_Theme_Mockups00:16
bobbyThey're so beautiful :s00:17
chrisccoulsonoh, i thought you meant the menu button in the titlebar ;)00:17
bobby>.<00:18
bobbyNo, an actual UI overhaul :P00:18
chrisccoulsoni'm not really sure what else is planned for the linux version00:18
bobbyI'm really getting sick of the UI, been the same since I started using Ubuntu/Linux a year ago :s00:19
fishorhallo all, i have problem with latest two updates of firefox-4.0. Ifter start it will freeze on first page07:14
fishorcan any one confirm it. i use ubuntu 10.10 amd64 + ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily07:15
* micahg can test on lucid07:16
micahgseems like a plugin-container issue like before :-/07:16
fishori thing i got it first time yesterday. on friday it was ok07:18
micahgweird, should work...07:18
fishor3.6.9 and chromium working fine07:18
micahgah, it's not being installed :(07:18
* micahg updates07:19
micahgfishor: shoudl be fixed tomorrow07:28
micahgfishor: thanks for letting us know07:29
fishormicahg: welcome and thank you07:29
vishmicahg: if its just improving the description , it sound good to make it more accurate07:52
micahgvish: as in what I did you like?07:53
vishmicahg: yup , mentioning Adobe sounds good07:54
vishmicahg: was there a reason it wasnt mentioned before?07:55
micahgvish: idk, oversight maybe07:55
vishyeah , probably07:55
micahgI thought he did it in the diff, but then I looked back and what was there before was worse07:55
vish:)07:55
porter1hey, is anyone in here?08:40
micahgporter1: yes08:40
porter1Cool. I was wondering if anyone else was testing 4.0b4 and having immediate crashes with flash? Also strange text rendering?08:41
micahgporter1: yes, I fixed it in bzr, it'll be fixed in the next upload08:42
porter1Oh cool. Thanks for responding so quickly!08:42
micahgporter1: fishor let me know an hour and a half ago08:42
DanaGhmm, firefox 4.0 re-broke plugin-container....09:07
DanaGhttp://pastebin.com/pCUYTesg09:08
micahgDanaG: yes, known issue that's fixed in bzr09:08
DanaGCool.09:09
DanaGJust straight copying it from 3.6.9 works for now.09:09
micahgDanaG: you can copy it from xulrunner-2.009:10
micahgactually, idk if that would work..09:10
* micahg tests09:11
micahgDanaG: well, 3.6.8 doesn't work and neither does xul2009:13
DanaGHmm, it worked for me.09:14
DanaGAnyway, time for bed now...09:14
DanaGIt'd also be nice if Firefox would report "missing" instead of hanging... =P09:14
DanaGLike, "failed to start plugin container"09:15
micahgDanaG: well, it was just integrated as all-in-one, so bugs likely to happen09:15
micahgDanaG: the problem is with the packaging09:15
DanaGYeah, I figured.  Anyway, off to bed now -- glad to know it's known and fix-commited.09:15
micahgDanaG: thanks09:15
=== micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 (Now in Mozilla Daily PPA) Coming to Maverick after Alpha 3 | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming Mid August | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Next Meeting: TBD | Firefox 4.0 Daily flash issue will
=== micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 (Now in Mozilla Daily PPA) Coming to Maverick after Alpha 3 | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming Mid August | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Firefox 4.0 Daily flash issue Fix Committed
=== micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 (Now in Mozilla Daily PPA) Coming to Maverick This Week | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming Mid August | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Firefox 4.0 Daily flash issue Fix Committed
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
micahghi chrisccoulson20:06
chrisccoulsonhi micahg20:09
micahgchrisccoulson: I have TB built and the locales ready, now I'm just clearing space so I can dogfood TB before packaging up enigmail20:10
chrisccoulsonawesome, thanks!20:10
micahgchrisccoulson: oh, I wanted to ask you about the russian translation20:11
micahgfor firefox that is20:11
chrisccoulsonfor abrowser?20:11
micahgyeah20:11
micahgdid you see that20:11
chrisccoulsonyeah, i was going to find a russian speaking colleague to have a look at it20:11
micahgk, I'll switch you to reviewer then?20:11
chrisccoulsoni'm a bit nervous about changing translations for languages i don't speak ;)20:11
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's ok20:12
micahgis that possible to reassign review?20:12
chrisccoulsoni'm not too sure about that20:13
micahggot it :)20:13
chrisccoulsonah, yes. just saw it now20:15
DanaGWeird... my Firefox is not following 301 "Moved Permanently"!20:21
DanaGGo to http://phoronix.com/ -- and it gives me a page that just says:20:22
DanaGMoved Permanently20:22
DanaGThe document has moved here.20:22
DanaGSame for http://newegg.com20:22
DanaGThis object may be found here20:22
DanaGAnd when I click the "here" on Phoronix, it gives me a page that's entirely empty -- even "view source" is empty!20:23
micahgDanaG: which version?20:23
DanaGVersion: 4.0~b4~hg20100807r49066+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd120:25
micahgoh, my daily is still broke :)20:25
* micahg likes empty builders :)20:27
micahglzma rocks :)20:28
micahgchrisccoulson: I think the only troubling thing left with the build is the beta participation from 3.120:47
DanaGah, updated firefox... now it's unbroken.20:50
micahgI guess I can substitute beta 3.0 participation for beta 3.1 participation since thunderbird-3.0 hasn't been around for almost 6 months20:50
DanaGOh yeah, one use case those migration scripts dealt badly with, last time I checked:21:09
DanaGOne time I had firefox-3.5 dir symlinked to firefox dir.... so it moved "firefox-3.5" to "firefox" and "firefox" to "firefox-3.0.abandoned".21:10
DanaGSo I ended up with "firefox" being a symlink to "firefox".21:10
micahgDanaG: we don't support user's changing links21:12
DanaGOops, my Firefox is still broken...21:13
DanaGThat is, the "permanently moved" is broken.21:14
DanaGError: [Exception... "'JavaScript component does not have a method named: "asyncOnChannelRedirect"' when calling method: [nsIChannelEventSink::asyncOnChannelRedirect]"  nsresult: "0x80570030 (NS_ERROR_XPC_JSOBJECT_HAS_NO_FUNCTION_NAMED)"  location: "<unknown>"  data: no]21:15
micahgchrisccoulson: I seem to have dependency hell on locales21:48
chrisccoulsonwhat's the issue with them?21:48
micahgchrisccoulson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/475102/21:49
chrisccoulsonso,the locale packages are set to conflict thunderbird (>> 3.1~a1) and thunderbird (<< 3.1~)?21:52
micahgshouldn't be21:52
chrisccoulsonit seems that they are according to that output21:52
micahgConflicts: thunderbird (<< 3.1~), thunderbird (>> 3.2~a1)21:53
micahgoh, I'm missing one :)21:53
chrisccoulsonthat might be why ;)21:53
micahgno, it's there21:54
micahgmaybe dpkg -i doesn't have a good dependency resolver?21:54
* micahg could push to PPA21:55
chrisccoulsonyeah, dpkg doesn't handle dependency resolution like that21:55
chrisccoulsoni normally test by creating a local archive21:55
micahgis that easy?21:56
chrisccoulsonyeah, i normally follow the instructions here for building packages with dependencies in a local archive: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Building%20With%20Local%20Packages21:59
chrisccoulsonand then just add the relevant line to my sources.list21:59
chrisccoulsonwhich, for me is "deb file:///var/cache/archive/ maverick/"21:59
micahgchrisccoulson: do I need anything special besides the deb line pointing to a dir with debs?22:09
chrisccoulsonmicahg - as long as the folder is a debian repository (ie, it has things like a Packages.gz)22:10
micahgugh, I guess I have to generate that22:10
micahgchrisccoulson: not going to worry about it now, just pushing to PPA23:21
bobbyHey, anyone think it is time to remove the 3.7 transitional package, considering its been dead for over a month now?23:22
micahgbobby: you can if you want23:23
bobbylol, I'm just asking if there is a reason it is still in there... Along with FF2.0 transitional?23:23
micahgbobby: ff20 should've been dropped23:24
bobbyReally? After only two years?23:24
bobbyCome on?23:24
bobbyWhen's the next FF4 update coming out... Just keeps crashing on startup23:31
micahgabout 7-8 hrs23:33
bobby>.<23:34
bobbyI don't have anything against using chrome, but no auto-scrolling is really annoying me :s23:35

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