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Callum__aaand I broke the Ubuntu install on it00:07
Callum__*fixes*00:07
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chrislabeardanyone alive in here today?01:59
patdk-lapchrislabeard, depends02:04
chrislabeardI need help with figuring out how to let the server write to directories02:04
patdk-lapI'm pretty sure we answer questions in here, not statements02:05
chrislabeardalright.02:05
chrislabeardI'm using EHCP I create a domain add files and the server does not have write access to the directory02:06
chrislabeardhow can I fix this ?02:06
patdk-lapehcp?02:07
chrislabeardeasy hosting control panel02:07
chrislabeardits just a web panel02:09
patdk-lapdunno anything about it02:10
patdk-lapcheck your directory permissions02:10
patdk-lapthere should be isntallation documentation for that02:10
patdk-lapif not, that sucks02:10
chrislabeardlol k02:12
patdk-lapsorry, I'm just not in the mood to learn about ehcp to really help you02:13
chrislabeardRight i gotcha02:19
Callum__man, rsync is really slow, even with copying from one drive to another...02:25
Callum__in the same machine02:25
Jason1anyone have vsftp running on their system?  I'm getting this after trying to init.d restart02:40
Jason1Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)02:40
Jason1utility, e.g. service vsftpd restart02:40
Jason1Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an02:40
Jason1Upstart job, you may also use the restart(8) utility, e.g. restart vsftpd02:40
Jason1vsftpd start/running, process 1203002:40
patdk-lapya, just do what it says :)02:40
Jason1im not familiar with the restart utility.  I tried typing restart vsftpd and that didn't work either.02:43
patdk-laprestart utility?02:43
patdk-lapI'm pretty sure it says02:43
patdk-lapservice vsftpd restart02:43
Jason1yes thats what I typed.,  here is the response:02:43
Jason1restart: Unknown instance:02:44
patdk-lapservice vsftpd start02:44
patdk-lapmaybe it wasn't running, so restart failed02:44
Jason1tried that as well...02:44
patdk-lapstrange, I have no issue with it on my system02:44
Jason1also tried with sudo02:45
patdk-lapoh, you have to use sudo02:45
Jason1i had vsftpd running the other day.  Reformatted my system and started from scratch. I didn't have this issue before.02:47
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clustycurious how bad is the TLER issue with raid cards these days04:07
clustyany experiences ?04:07
ScottKsommer: Bug #61489704:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 614897 in ubuntu-docs "bind9 instructions should use relative paths for files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61489704:41
TohuwApache problem on my Ubuntu 9.10 server: I'm trying to get a subdomain to point to the right DocumentRoot, but it isn't working. Here's the vhost file in question: http://pastebin.com/S4tkm9F4 What am I missing?04:49
ramprmonit stopped monitoring one of my services and I fixed the problem. how do I let monit start remonitoring the services ?04:51
qman__Tohuw, there are no directories defined in that virtualhost04:52
Tohuwqman__: oh, defining the dir is required? :(04:52
patdk-lapna, it's magic :)04:53
Tohuwwell, i just thought it could infer it from the docroot04:53
Tohuwor something04:53
patdk-lapthat would be, simple_vhost, not normal vhost04:54
Tohuwok obviously not, adding directory and testing04:54
Tohuwoh04:54
Tohuwwhen i define the directory, do i start from the docroot defined by that vhost, or the docroot in my apache2.conf?04:56
qman__directory statements use absolute paths, last I knew04:56
qman__at least if you start them with a /04:57
Tohuwoh04:57
TohuwI changed the vhost file to http://pastebin.com/hhnVGksC, but still no dice :\05:00
qman__the other problem I see is that the second domain name falls under the first domain name05:00
Tohuwwhat do you mean?05:01
Tohuwjust that projects.constellationmedia.com is a subdomain of constellationmedia.com? Am I going about a subdomain setup wrongly?05:01
qman__I'm looking it up to confirm, but that's what I think the problem is05:02
TohuwThank you, I appreciate your help05:04
Jason1how do I change a users home directory and make sure they only have access to that directory and what is below it?  Im not quite following the chroot topic.05:07
qman__Tohuw, well, I can't find a configuration set up similarly to yours to confirm, what incorrect behavior is it showing?05:10
qman__if it's rendering the main site instead of the subdomain, or not rendering the subdomain at all, this is probably the case05:10
Tohuwqman__: if you go to http://projects.constellationmedia.com, you'll see it goes to the same page as http://constellationmedia.com. It should be rendering http://constellationmedia.com/projects05:11
qman__Tohuw, try commenting line 405:12
Tohuwoh, that worked05:13
Tohuwmakes sense05:13
Tohuwnow the question is: how do i allow www.constellationmedia.com to point to the parent domain, since the wildcard screws things up?05:13
qman__serveralias www.constellationmedia.com05:14
Tohuwfair enough05:14
qman__though to avoid problems with cookies or SSL, I'd suggest doing a redirect or mod_rewrite instead05:14
Tohuwyeah, makes sense05:14
Tohuwi'll make a .htaccess with the appropriate directives05:15
TohuwI have a rails app located at /home/cmg/redmine/1.0-stable and symlinked to /home/cmg/public_html/projects. It's not working. http://projects.constellationmedia.com/ isn't working -- I just get a directory index. Neither is http://constellationmedia.com/projects (the same place) My vhost file: http://pastebin.com/U1K4V0d0 (using Passenger)05:30
qman__I don't know anything about rails, but I'd double check to make sure it's enabled in apache05:31
qman__and check the file association too05:31
TohuwIt is. It was working before I moved it from another directory. I updated the .yml files and environment.rb05:32
qman__ok05:32
Tohuwoh05:32
Tohuwwait05:32
Tohuwd'oh05:32
Tohuwforgot to chown the application directory05:33
qman__ah, that'll do it05:33
Tohuwactually, apparently it won't :(05:34
qman__hmm05:34
qman__I don't remember if FollowSymlinks is on by default05:35
qman__but if your directory listing is of the correct directory, I guess it's on05:35
TohuwI have it on http://pastebin.com/U1K4V0d005:35
Tohuwyeah05:35
decowhy is the server iso around 600mb ?05:36
qman__deco, to contain as many popular packages as will fit on a CD05:37
decoqman__: thanks05:38
Tohuwdeco: just because the package is on the cd doesn't mean it's installed by default05:38
decoTohuw: ah ok05:38
decobeen wanting to setup a vps , why would somone use ubuntu-server instead of debian ?05:39
decoi know there's a reason for the desktop05:39
decoversion of ubuntu05:39
qman__my main reason is tasksel05:39
decobut i don't know why for the server05:39
qman__makes a lot of things really easy05:39
decoqman__: like what for example05:39
Tohuwdeco: for the same reason you would prefer ubuntu for your desktop over debian05:39
qman__LAMP05:39
qman__single checkbox for a working system05:40
decohmmm05:40
qman__could you do it on debian? sure05:40
qman__but ubuntu has a very quick and simple way to do it05:40
Tohuwubuntu server, like its desktop counterpart, does a great job at vastly simplifying and streamlining deployment and operation without sacrificing power and configurability (or at least, not too much)05:41
decoTohuw: okay thanks05:41
Tohuwhence the old joke, "ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'."05:41
decohaha05:42
qman__when you need a web server in ten minutes flat, ubuntu is the answer05:42
decosame with the desktop version :p05:42
decoi like that05:43
decooh well i should really just download the iso and test it in vbox05:43
qman__the only difference between the two is the default package set05:44
qman__I think they even use the same kernel now05:44
qman__desktop and server, that is05:44
qman__oh, and the installer05:44
decoqman__: installer is ncurses right ?05:44
qman__server uses a menu instead of a graphical environment05:45
decoyeah05:45
Tohuwqman__: as of 10.10 beta, the kernel is still -server as opposed to -generic, the default in Ubuntu Desktop.05:47
TohuwThough the versions are the same, at least currently. (2.6.35-14)05:47
qman__guess they decided not to merge the two, then05:47
qman__it was in the plan at one point or another05:48
qman__even so, it's just some minor changes05:48
Tohuwwhat's the advantage to unifying them?05:48
qman__one less kernel to bug test, patch, and maintain05:49
Tohuwfair enough. I don't know enough about the tunings between the two to comment on it, was just curious05:49
qman__they're not very different05:49
qman__but the fact that they're not the same one means extra work05:50
qman__one thing that does bother me is that they call the 32-bit version i386, when it requires an i686 CPU05:51
qman__guess it doesn't matter for most people05:51
qman__just me and the other two guys still running an i586 ;)05:52
TohuwTandy called, they have a new model to sell you. It's ready for pick-up at your local Radio Shak05:54
clabharsh ;)05:55
qman__I would replace it, but every time I go to do it, one of the newer machines fails05:55
qman__it just won't die, can't argue with that05:55
ballqman__: I know one of my machines has an AMD K6-2+, which was i586 in terms of instruction set.  Upgraded from a Cyrix MII that was i686.05:55
ballI have to go.05:55
qman__yeah, this is a K605:56
Tohuwqman__: fixed my problem! it was a simple matter of moving the RailsBaseURI directive to the parent vhost entry (the first one in the file). Why that worked, or rather why having it in the vhost entry for projects.constellationmedia.com didn't work, I don't know06:00
TohuwRails is very black box to me sometimes.06:01
qman__hah06:01
qman__yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense06:01
Tohuwit's working, i'll just smile and not06:01
Tohuws/not/nod06:01
TohuwI wonder what clever trick I can use to get http://projects.constellationmedia.com to work (http://constellationmedia.com/projects works)06:02
qman__maybe put it in both?06:03
Tohuwnope, that was too easy to work06:07
Tohuwthis is rails: it has to be difficult and obscure to deploy. get real, man!06:07
Tohuwrelated: I delight in antagonizing rails fanatics, even though I don't have (many) specific complaints or even useful knowledge of rails itself06:08
qman__heh06:10
qman__I've never used it myself, I learned PHP years ago and stuck to that06:10
qman__though python has caught my interest, if I ever get some time06:11
WalterNhow do I copy the partition map over from one drive to another?06:57
joschiWalterN: you can use `sfdisk` for that.07:15
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MACscrIm running ubuntu 10.4, but cant seem to use last or lastlog commands: last: /var/log/wtmp: No such file or directory07:51
MACscrdo i just need to create the file and it will start working? i doubt it as i would think it would automatically be created if it wasnt07:52
TohuwI'm having an odd issue with my Ubuntu Server running Apache 2.2.11: I have several vhosts files, one of which contains <VirtualHost *:80>, the rest contain VirtualHost directives that are domain-name specific and include ServerName entries. So if I go to something that hits the server but not any of the domains specified in the other vhost files, why don't I get the documentroot for the default vhost? It seems to go through the other 09:04
TohuwAh, now I get it: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2004/01/08/apacheckbk.html09:09
Tohuwdoes anyone else ever have a problem where an ssh suddenly becomes very very slow, even though nothing significant has changed in terms of load on the localhost/ssh target/available bandwidth on either end?09:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #614939 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 stop: Job has already been stoped: mysql" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61493909:36
Tohuwan ssh session, I should have said09:36
FireCrotchTohuw: I've experienced it. I never really thought much about it.09:37
TohuwFireCrotch: it drives me insane... and I can't determine why it might be happening09:37
FireCrotchTohuw: It usually goes back to normal after a few seconds for me.  I usually assume that its due to a load spike on the local machine or the remote box09:38
TohuwFireCrotch: yeah... but the odd thing is, when it happens for me, I don't observe a load spike on either end... I was guessing some flakiness in connection on my end (not that I've observed any directly)09:39
FireCrotchI assume this is over the internet, not the local network09:40
Tohuwyes09:40
FireCrotchCould definitely be internet lag.  The internet is a complicated beast, sometimes it just... slows down for no reason09:40
robertpayneTohuw: thanks for the help earlier with SASL stuff might've been last night actually I finally got it all working09:44
Tohuwrobertpayne: excellent :)09:44
robertpayneTohuw: turns out using postfix + dovecot you don't need sasl2-bin at all or any of it's configured stuff.. dovecot provides it's own implementation09:44
Tohuwrobertpayne: really? Interesting. I'll make a note of that... I'm setting up dovecot on a server soon (I'm used to Courier).09:45
robertpayneTohuw: yeah. I'm trying to make a shell script now to install the base server setup ( lamp, phpmyadmin, postfix, dovecot, postfixmyadmin, ssl certs ) etc.. having trouble getting sed to replace some variables in the config files though09:46
robertpaynesed script seems to expand variables only when not inside a recursive loop like this: http://pastebin.com/UdFk2ZwP09:46
joebobjoeany opinions regarding ebox vs pfSense?09:46
Tohuwrobertpayne: if you're scripting that large of a deployment, you might want to consider using a "golden image" type approach instead09:46
robertpayneTohuw: It's for my webhost's VPS I don't think I can go that route09:47
Tohuwunderstood09:47
robertpayneI wish though would make life a ton easier :(09:48
robertpayneTohuw: actually you have a link with info about a golden image? I might look into it I might be able to hook it up09:49
joschirobertpayne: maybe cfengine, puppet or chef might be worth a look for you09:50
joschirobertpayne: golden image just means that you have a master image (which you maintain) and can just deploy when you need a new vps09:51
robertpaynejoschi: ahh I figured as much yea heh no I have to reinstall the whole thing09:52
robertpaynejoschi: they offer snapshots but you can't move them across different servers ( setting up a dev box now then will migrate to production box )09:52
robertpaynethe shell script isn't too heavy09:55
Tohuwrobertpayne: that was one of my complaints about my former vps setup. I went with a cloud-based solution from the same data center, and now i can make my own images, roll them out as I please in minutes, clone them, roll out premade (by the data center) images, etc. Not to mention I can dynamically allocate resources and only pay for what I need in most regards.09:55
robertpayneTohuw: very interesting.. what hosting solution are you using?09:56
Tohuwrobertpayne: you might consider doing it more "the unix way": create several small scripts to configure the different parts. This allows for scaling and interchanging parts. You could still have a master script that includes which scripts you want to run09:56
Tohuwrobertpayne: www.stormondemand.com09:56
robertpayneTohuw: yea true.. I doubt I'll ever really have to use these that often though.. mostly just once on the dev/production box and if they ever completely fail I'd have to do it again09:57
Tohuwfair enough. sometimes, quick and dirty is completely called for09:58
robertpayneTohuw: this sed problem is the only one still remaining.. I can't understand why it's not expand the env variable unless it's used standalone09:58
Tohuwrobertpayne: I'm not sure why either... try asking #bash09:59
joschirobertpayne: example?10:07
robertpaynehttp://pastebin.com/UdFk2ZwP10:07
robertpaynethe sed command replacement is always resulting as empty string.. tried several different methods10:08
robertpayneworks if I don't use a env var inside the replacement10:08
joschirobertpayne: you're missing -i for in place editing of the files10:19
robertpaynejoschi: oh right now I'm just testing.. printing it to stdout10:19
robertpayneanyways turns out on my local machine I'm running /bin/bash10:19
robertpayneserver is using /bin/dash10:19
robertpayne$HOSTNAME isn't set as env for /bin/dash10:20
joschirobertpayne: also `set` is IMHO wrong is this context10:21
robertpaynejoschi: yes that is wrong too I've tried that many different ways10:21
joschirobertpayne: just write USE_HOSTNAME="$HOSTNAME"10:21
robertpayneyeah10:21
robertpayneI'll have to create a second script and run it as /bin/bash10:21
robertpayneto setup the files10:21
robertpaynenot sure how the rest of the script will run under bash instead of dash10:21
joschijust use `hostname` instead of $HOSTNAME10:22
robertpaynefor dash?10:22
robertpayneer bash10:22
joschiboth10:23
robertpaynehere is what I don't get10:23
joschibash supports $HOSTNAME, but not every shell does10:23
robertpayneactually.. wait a sec10:23
robertpaynemaybe I do need to run it as bash.. because command line ubuntu echo $HOSTNAME works but /bin/sh is dash and doesn't so..10:23
robertpayneyeah I just have to run it as bash.. argggg! thx10:26
MACscreven after rebooting, i still cant run apt-get. im getting: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)10:28
MACscrand no, i dont have apt running, etc10:29
blue-frogMACscr, try  sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock   or    sudo sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/status10:49
MACscrblue-frog: thanks, i got it fixed. Removed the lock file. No idea why it didnt work the first time, but it did after reboot and i rm'ed it again10:50
blue-frogMACscr, there's a process looking for updates. certainly this one.10:51
blue-frogupdate-manager apt-get and so on10:51
blue-frogif you want to be sure use lsof. it will tell you what is using it10:51
blue-frogso give it time to finish what it has to do and then issue your commands10:52
cemcany LTSP gurus around?11:15
CppIsWeirdare there only UUID's for partitions or can you get some unique identifier of the drive itself?12:54
CppIsWeirdin other words, is there any information i can get from /dev/hda to differentiate it uniquely from /dev/hdb given that they are identical drive models?12:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #614981 in groovy (main) "Please sync groovy 1.7.4-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61498113:01
sorenCppIsWeird: There might be.. What do you need it for?13:05
CppIsWeirdwell i was running along the street with a big red bag full of western digital hard drives stacked in a specific order from 1 to 1 million. All the sudden a big gust of wind blew me over and the hard drives fell all over the place.13:06
sorenI hate that.13:07
CppIsWeirdso now i need to put them back in the right order.13:07
sorenWhy?13:07
CppIsWeirdgod told me i had to or the world would come to an end.13:07
CppIsWeirdyou have to help me save the world.13:07
sorenWhy do they need to be in the right order.13:07
soren*shrug*13:07
sorenMaybe today is the day where I stop bothering to respond to anything in this channel.13:09
soren5 years seems like a pretty good run.13:09
* soren makes a rude gesture and wanders off13:10
CppIsWeirdlol, wow, someone needs to get out of their cubicle more often.13:23
Jeeves_CppIsWeird: You might also think about the fact that people in here have things to do, and that they're here to help people as well.13:36
Jeeves_You trying to be funny isn't very helpfull (nor funny)13:36
incorrectdamn i hate grub213:37
* Jeeves_ too :)13:38
incorrecti have software raid on a dual boot machine, update-grub seems to generate a valid grub.cfg but i only see the win7 option when i reboot13:38
incorrectso what other options are there13:40
incorrectin terms of bootloaders13:40
Jeeves_incorrect: There's also Grub.13:43
incorrecti didn't see it in 10.0413:43
Jeeves_But i'd try to find out what is wrong with grub213:43
incorrecti think its something to do with the software raid13:44
Jeeves_Is grub being installed on both your disks?13:44
incorrectwell i get a grub2 menu13:44
incorrectbut it only has win7 as an options13:44
incorrectso i pxe boot rescue, chroot in13:44
incorrectdo an update-grub13:44
incorrectit moans about a memory leak13:44
incorrecthowever the /boot/grub/grub.cfg seems to have everything in i would want13:45
Jeeves_Is grub being installed on both your disks?13:49
incorrectwell i did manually force to do an install13:49
Jeeves_So grub is probably on only one of your disks13:49
incorrectdoes grub2 not just read the .cfg file at boot like grub213:49
incorrecterr grub113:49
Jeeves_what happens if you tell the bios to boot from the other disk?13:50
incorrectcan't do that without stuffing the software raid13:50
incorrectthen all the UUID's get stuffed13:50
Jeeves_huh?13:50
Jeeves_uuid's don't get stuffed based on settings in your bios13:50
incorrectthe nvidia software raid is a bit weird13:50
Jeeves_that's the whole idea with uuid's13:50
incorrectthey just did13:50
Jeeves_Ah, it's not software raid13:51
Jeeves_it's hostraid13:51
incorrectah13:51
Jeeves_which sucks, usually13:51
Jeeves_And usually creates more issues than it solves :)13:51
incorrectwell i tried disabling it and installing but that caused more problems13:52
Jeeves_Why?13:52
CppIsWeirdare there only UUID's for partitions or can you get some unique identifier of the drive itself? is there any information i can get from /dev/hda to differentiate it uniquely from /dev/hdb given that they are identical drive models?13:55
incorrectgot it, it needed a manual on both drives13:56
incorrectoh thats is awesome dmraid didn't start so the /dev/mapper devices it wants to use aren't there at boot13:59
incorrectsigh13:59
incorrecthmm what to do13:59
incorrectfine reinstall using mdadm14:05
incorrectbut i bet it won't find the windows install14:05
robertpayneare self-signed certificates any less secure than using one signed by a CA?14:14
RoyKrobertpayne: no, but they can't be verified - security is the same if you trust the certificate14:14
patdk-lapthe difference is you have to verify it manually, like you should be doing your ssh keys :)14:15
robertpayneRoyK: ok just wanted to make sure.. yeah it's for mail server14:15
patdk-lapno it's not the same still14:15
patdk-lapcause you can't verify the revoke status14:15
RoyKwell, for a private setup, it won't matter14:16
robertpayne_blah patdk-lap sorry missed anything past "cause you can't verify the revoke status"14:19
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ruben23hi guys how to check the ubuntu version is being usede by my server14:21
ruben23any idea..?14:21
patdk-lapcat /etc/lsb-release14:21
anarkiHow can I create a second qcow2 image for my windows guest? I did do "qemu-img create -f qcow2 win2k3-ext.qcow2 20GB" and edit the .xml, but when I start windows again i'm not able to format the new disk. The disk in Disk managment is only 1MB?14:33
robertpayneany package that has a bit of a gui for iptables on server edition?14:55
papertigersrobertpayne: any of the firewall gui programs can be X11 forwarded over ssh15:45
robertpaynepapertigers: ahh didn't realize that thx15:46
papertigersrobertpayne: if you do ssh -Y user@server15:46
papertigersthen you could run something like firewallbuilder15:46
incorrectdamn it i think i will buy a hardware raid controller15:51
papertigersincorrect: and use it to do JBOD and then do mdadm? :P15:51
incorrectmdadm is the pain15:57
incorrecti just put a 3ware 8 disk raid10 setup in my server, much nicer than mdadm15:58
papertigersincorrect: I love mdadm16:07
papertigersI have a rocketraid 2320 hardware card in mine16:07
papertigersusing mdadm for raid616:07
papertigersi have 8 disks 5.4TB usable16:08
incorrectpapertigers, i guess you only use it for a file server not a vm host16:39
PhantomasHello, is this the right place to discuss server documentation bugs?16:43
papertigersincorrect: I use it for storave for mv VM's as well, linux kvm16:49
papertigerskvm server is seperate, but is trunk linked point to point ip and mounted over nfs for storage16:49
thesheff17papertigers: ping17:24
cautionI'm getting "fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied" when I try to use sshfs19:58
cautionis there an alternative to sshfs?19:58
zashcaution: adduser $USER fuse20:19
zashi think20:19
cautionI've tried that20:19
gnoobI want to make a login script that all users run on logon.  Where is the file where i need to link script? :)20:19
zashcaution: have you logged out and in?20:19
cautionyes, `id` shows the group20:20
cautionI also changed the group of /dev/fuse to fuse20:20
zashcaution: what permisions are on /dev/fuse20:20
cautioncrwxrwxrwx 1 root fuse 10, 229 2010-08-08 19:33 /dev/fuse20:20
cautionwhat are my alternatives? I only want to securely share a file across two computers20:22
cautionfuse probably isn't supported by my host or something20:24
zashcaution: nfs over vpn should be pretty secure20:28
zashor something with unison or rsync over ssh20:29
cautionnfs also uses fuse?20:32
RoyKtop - 21:37:11 up 9 days, 10:08,  2 users,  load average: 24.20, 24.14, 24.1020:37
RoyKcaution: nfs is usually in kernel20:37
RoyKno fuse there20:37
cautiontrying to install nfs-kernel-server tried to install fuse20:38
qman__caution, did you use --no-install-recommends?21:22
cautionno21:28
steve__Does anyone have any good suggestions for a password management solution for ubuntu-server? I have been mounting a encrypted image of a filesystem onto /mnt. Its not very elegant - Any suggestions?23:50
giovanisteve__: I'm unclear on what password management has to do with mounting a filesystem ... can you elaborate?23:54

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