[00:00] <Slart> Arnoob: do you understand what I mean?
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> razz1:  shareing the virrent visible desktop is going to be more sluggish then haveing a 'seperate hidden desktop'   , FreeNX will give even better perforamce. but its harder to setup
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Xase: yeah but I'm after an actual app to plug into that, transdroid on adroid allows you to open torrents and it will tell the server to download the file/s
[00:00] <Arnoob> slart yea
[00:00] <tripelb> ubuntu, mgolisch spinningcompass not detected in ubuntu gui, only gparted
[00:01] <c3l> how do I print the current setting for setxkbmap?
[00:02] <Xase> wow still no way to test for modes.
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> !info transmission-remote
[00:02] <Marouane> salam
[00:03] <Marouane> hello
[00:03] <spinningcompass> tripelb: That suggests that the partition hasn't been formatted.
[00:03] <Marouane> hello
[00:03] <tripelb> ubuntu, mgolisch spinningcompass not detected in ubuntu gui, only gparted --- still unallocated in gparted
[00:03] <razz1> Dr_Willis: tried to setup freenx, but the setupnx file was missing when I installed freenx, to fix this I would have had to get that file from ubuntu forums, someone posted it there,  I don't want to that. Not sure whether it's wise to use executable files from forums!! I already have a secure ssh to the remote machine using keys.
[00:03] <spinningcompass> tripelb: If the disk itself is visible in gparted but no partitions are showing up elsewhere, that suggests that the disk hasn't been partitioned or perhaps the partitions haven't been formatted.
[00:04] <spinningcompass> tripelb: Do you know how to partition and format a hard disk? If so, that'll be your next step (if you're sure you don't have data on that disk).
[00:04] <tripelb> spinningcompass: right. I understand that but the word _format_ does not occur in the menus??? lost soul=me
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> razz1:  ther is also an amterantive to freenx, but i forget its name. saw it on the (confuseing) nx ubuntu wiki page.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> razz1:  if its a linux to linux box. uyou could just ssh -X in and run whatever app you wanted. No need to have a full desktop going
[00:05] <spinningcompass> tripelb: Ah. OK. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jT8n9PKiFE
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> the whole NX system is a littel.. confuseing :)
[00:06] <marekw2143> hi, how to invoke from the console app finder?
[00:06] <tripelb> spinningcompass: this is a brand new 1T HD, I have only formatted in MS fdisk and when ubuntu installs on a(n already formatted) disk
[00:06] <marekw2143> I need app to find app that finds app :)
[00:07] <spinningcompass> tripelb: YouTube has a four-minute tutorial on the subject. Did you get the URL that I posted?
[00:07] <ilovefairuz> marekw2143: software center?
[00:07] <razz1> Dr_Willis: neatnx, or the nomachine proprietary one, yep I use x-forwarding via ssh most of the time, but the users on the remote system are not computer savvy .  I will need access to their desktop to show them stuff
[00:07] <tripelb> spinningcompass: ok will watch.. oh no I cant. I am on a liveCD and have no ability to watch youtube (I think) because of no-flash (flash=nonfree) - I can understand text. lol
[00:07] <marekw2143> ilovefairuz: I don't know its name
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> marekw2143:  clarify what you mean by 'find'
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Xase: theres transgui :). There's a PPA for it
[00:08] <spinningcompass> tripelb: Click on the partition. The drop-down menu will include "Format to" as a submenu.
[00:08] <tripelb> oh
[00:08] <ilovefairuz> marekw2143: it's in applications menu
[00:08] <marekw2143> Dr_Willis: maybe other - I want find app to find files that has some text inside
[00:08] <Xase> nice
[00:08] <marekw2143> ilovefairuz: I have blackbox
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> marekw2143:  so you want to 'find a string' in different files .
[00:08] <Xase> still personally trying to get help with my oversca  issue
[00:09] <marekw2143> Dr_Willis: yes
[00:09] <marekw2143> DrWillis: and there is some graph app for that, but can't remember its name
[00:09] <gafir> hello, does anybody know of an application on ubuntu with tv channel streaming etc?
[00:09] <razz1> Dr_Willis: i asked around which implementation would be most responsive, most of them suggested  I try different options and pick one myself. Thats what I am doin
[00:09] <rlankfo> i guess packages are called apps these days
[00:09] <gafir> maybe an application with video shoutcast like the kind you get on winamp?
[00:10] <Xase> i thi k my daughtee has somethingbin her throat but not her obstructing her throat. shoulx i induce  vomitting?
[00:10] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: doesn't transmission-gtk come with a web interface ?
[00:10] <rimanluis> não consigo configurar vidalia tor
[00:10] <psycho789> what can I use to make flow charts and stuff, kinda like MS Visio
[00:10] <rlankfo> Xase: you should ask else where
[00:10] <Xase> i meant to dude
[00:10] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: it's in the preferences dialog
[00:10] <Xase> my ocerscan issue blows i cant click oyher channels
[00:10] <Xase> damnit i just closed the othee one
[00:11] <rlankfo> Xase: call a doctor
[00:11] <tripelb> spinningcompass: OK here I go. (format to=grey) picked new, "create new partition". ext2 is default. Should I just leave the defaults?  (Do I need to make a primary and extended or logical partition so I can break it up later? This is my memory from the ooold DOS days, lol)
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: yep but i want an app to connect to the web interface :)
[00:11] <razz1> Dr_Willis: when I ssh the remote system, and enter something like "evince xyz.pdf" at the remote machine's command prompt, xyz.pdf doesn't open on the remote machine's desktop. any guess why?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: its a server, no gui
[00:12] <Xase> it was a theoretical question for another channel
[00:12] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: there's an ncurses interface
[00:12] <spinningcompass> tripelb: Are you planning on putting the entire OS on that drive, or are you using the drive for /home ... or ...?
[00:12] <ilovefairuz> !search transmission
[00:12] <ilovefairuz> !info transmission-cli | ActionParsnip
[00:13] <spinningcompass> tripelb: I mean, you're asking a good question, but the short answer is, "You don't need to partition it unless you need to partition it." :) You "need" to partition it if you want to make it harder for other users to accidentally crash the server, or if you want to make it easier for you to add more disks later, or if you're a control freak. :) You pick. :)
[00:13] <nul> I can't get the live CD, or installed OS to boot with my satelite card (PCI) inside, but it works completely otherwise.  I had thought maybe the card was defective, so I installed windows XP, where it not only works but also finds and can watch channels etc..
[00:13] <ipatrol> !apt-torrent
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: yeah i think transgui talks to that
[00:13] <marekw2143> ilovefairuz, DrWillis: that was xfce4-appfinder :)
[00:14] <duffydack> My isp is narrow-minded and thinks all torrent r evil...so I`ll stick with http
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> razz1:  you diddnet 'ssh -X remotebox'
[00:14]  * dddw trusten
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: use a proxy ;)
[00:15] <duffydack> ActionParsnip, or just not use torrent?
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> use torrents legally.. and annoy them :)
[00:15] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: all the interfaces talk to the daemon
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> many of the MMORPG's out are using torrent features to push theior updates
[00:15] <duffydack> yeah, I could seed ubuntu for like 6 months
[00:15] <duffydack> non stop
[00:16] <nul> So anyone else have a similar issue? PCI satelite card causing ubuntu not to boot at all?
[00:16] <tripelb> spinningcompass: This is my new big drive. I'm not smart enough (yet) to know why and what I want to do. I have several sets of data (40/40/10/120G/backup DVDs/CDs) to be compied and integrated. I know that I will want partitions later if not now. Right, I want to be able to redo the system without losing data etc. ((I also have a Windows 40G connected so that grub will make it a dual boot- or so I understand)
[00:16] <duffydack> I`m sure with their incompetence I`d get some letter warning me of being banned
[00:16] <spinningcompass> tripelb: Do you keep Windows on a separate drive?
[00:16] <tripelb> spinningcompass: yes.
[00:16] <razz1> Dr_Willis: but -X is for forwarding X, what I am trying to do is just open a pdf (it's already present in the remote's home folder,) on the remote machine
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> razz1:  and you want it to appear on teh remote box? or locally?
[00:17] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man1/transmission-remote.1.html
[00:17] <aeon-ltd> Dr_Willis: yeah if only everyone did that so we wouldn't need mirrors :(, but then again md5 spoofing and malware breakout would happen [2x :(]
[00:17] <razz1> Dr_Willis: on the remote box
[00:17] <Xase> godd
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> razz1:  you need to set your DISPLAY and 'xhost' settings properly
[00:17] <trism> razz1: DISPLAY=:0.0 evince xyz.pdf; substituting the correct DISPLAY, although that is probably right
[00:18] <tripelb> spinningcompass: there is no "keep" this is all new and changeable. I put windows on one drive (cause this dell does have legal windows) so that I can do some things: use my webcam with skype, Photoshop Essentials. Play games that are on movie dvd's. More?
[00:18] <duffydack> sshfs
[00:18] <spinningcompass> tripelb: Ubuntu will make recommendations for the partitioning of your drive, when you double-click on "Install".
[00:18] <spinningcompass> tripelb: The easiest thing is to install it the way Ubuntu recommends. It will offer to put the OS across the entire (new) drive. Say 'yes'.  :)
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen some 'new' machines with win7 that are using 4 primary partitions allready. :() that makes it a bit harder.
[00:19] <Jordan_U> aeon-ltd: apt doesn't use md5 for authenticating packages, and relying on what appears to be a "known" source on the internet isn't real security.
[00:19] <tripelb> spinningcompass: so if it is not partitioned and not seen by the gui but only by gparted, I am ready to install? or not yet?
[00:19] <duffydack> razz1, use samba or ssh and nautilus to mount the sshfs
[00:19] <spinningcompass> tripelb: Well, strictly, Ubuntu *should* say, "Hey, this drive is blank. May I put Ubuntu on here?"
[00:19] <kballash> hey everyone I just downloaded blender a 2d cad program i get the tar.bz2 file and it opens in my file viewer but won't I can't seem to run.  (Newbit here)
[00:19] <Jordan_U> aeon-ltd: So using apt with bittorrent (which is possible today) is perfectly secure.
[00:19] <spinningcompass> tripelb: If it doesn't, then we'll talk about it, but I think Ubuntu will offer to use the blank, unformatted, unpartitioned drive.
[00:19] <duffydack> razz1, no X`in needed
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> kballash:  blender isent really a 'cad' app.
[00:20] <razz1> trism, i doubt that, but will double check
[00:20] <ilovefairuz> kballash: sudo apt-get install blender
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> kballash:  if its a ardhive of the binaries.. extract them. and run the binaries in the archive.
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> !info blender
[00:20] <trism> razz1: you doubt what?
[00:20] <thune3> nul: any possibility this could help you? http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1423806
[00:20] <tripelb> spinningcompass: pk but it didnt the last time I tried it
[00:20] <kballash> ahhh dooped again sorry trying to find a good 2d cad program for doing house layout.
[00:20] <nul> thune3: appreaciate a reply finally.. reading up thanks
[00:20] <aeon-ltd> Jordan_U: i guess, but how many people run apt simultaneously(and for the same packages for that matter, i doubt people would wanna waste bandwidth just to net others a few kbps)?
[00:20] <razz1> duffydack: I thought so, i already set these parameters in the sshd_config and ssh_config
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: https://launchpad.net/~andreas-noteng/+archive/transgui ;)
[00:20] <spinningcompass> tripelb: Try deleting the partition(s) from the drive & trying again.
[00:20] <nul> ahhh that looks veryyy helpful thune3
[00:20] <tripelb> spinningcompass: how big a partition do I need for the system and not for home.
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> kballash:  qcad
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> kballash:  blender is now what you want for house plans
[00:21] <Jordan_U> aeon-ltd: "i doubt people would wanna waste bandwidth just to
[00:21] <duffydack> razz1, connect to server in nautilus doesnt work?
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> not what you want
[00:21] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: i was checking http://code.google.com/p/transmisson-remote-gui/
[00:21] <spinningcompass> tripelb: If it's a single-user system, you might as well put everything in one partition, although this is a subject of lengthy debate amongst people w/ nothing else to argue about.
[00:21] <aeon-ltd> Jordan_U: say wut?
[00:21] <kballash> that saves me the time... yeah qcad is kind of expensive tho
[00:21] <kballash> not a professional just want to put some ideas down
[00:21] <Xase> well still no one to help me with hdtv overscan
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> kballash:  expensive? its free for linux
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: pretty sweet huh
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> !info qcad
[00:22] <maco> kballash: er.... qcad is in the repositories
[00:22] <razz1> trism: that the windows are opening in any other display. I would assume it would be diplay:0
[00:22] <minou> jlrehlsdfmdg
[00:22] <minou> udf us bfcsd gghorg
[00:22] <minou> hdf f nfnfvdkdkdh
[00:22] <maco> minou: stop that
[00:22] <tripelb> spinningcompass: ok thanks a lot. see you after the reboot. (even if the install fails it will reboot me. ... waves bye
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> kballash:  last i checked it was  $$ for windows.. but that may have chanvbed by now
[00:22] <minou> kfjfjbljvfluf
[00:22] <Jordan_U> aeon-ltd: It's already working today, and it's not a huge change of concept from other uses of bittorrent (I was trying to quote you but didn't realize that there was a line break which irssi being a terminal app can't differentiate from me hitting return).
[00:22] <Luija1006> I need help, I am playing runescape (java based game) and I am getting no sound, what could be the problem? please, HELP!!!
[00:22] <kballash> sorry new to linux just dumped windows yesterday so im still learning
[00:23] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: and written in pascal!
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006:  try using the SUN java instead of the iced tea java. perhaps.
[00:23] <Woolman> Is this a good channel to ask about installing Ubuntu on a Mac?
[00:23] <Luija1006> Dr_Willis: How i can install it into my mozilla, removing iced tea in the process...
[00:23] <ilovefairuz> Luija1006: well that depends how the game is outputting the sound, link to game?
[00:23] <vhugox> hi guys!, how can I install the "linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic" with apt-get?, do I need a special repository?.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: it works so far, doing more testing
[00:23] <Luija1006> http://www.runescape.com/game.ws?j=1
[00:23] <razz1> duffydack: i havn't used sshfs, so not sure, which server are you talking about- I mean to connect in nautilus
[00:24] <Luija1006> but you need an account
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> !java | Luija1006
[00:24] <kbrosnan> Luija1006: sudo apt-get install sun-java sun-java-plugin
[00:24] <aeon-ltd> Jordan_U: meh i guess when internet suppliers grow and evolve technologies like these to gain extra speeds will become useless, but i suppose it is cost cutting for canonical outsource to its users
[00:24] <kbrosnan> Luija1006: i think
[00:24] <Luija1006> thanks!
[00:24] <duffydack> razz1, the other pc, with ssh running.  assuming you can connect with ssh in the 1st place.
[00:24] <ilovefairuz> vhugox: are you running karmic? no you don't need extra repos
[00:24] <nul> is there a way to do an install over USB HDD?
[00:24] <duffydack> kbrosnan, sun-java6
[00:24] <Jordan_U> !install | nul
[00:24] <nul> thanks
[00:25] <Woolman> Is this a good channel to ask about installing Ubuntu on a Mac?
[00:25] <kbrosnan> duffydack: tell Luija1006 :P
[00:25] <Jordan_U> Woolman: Yes.
[00:25] <ilovefairuz> vhugox: ah I can't find the package
[00:25] <duffydack> kbrosnan, they`ll find out eventually :P
[00:25] <ilovefairuz> !details | Woolman
[00:25] <extraclassic> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04 and it freezes at the load screen with an stdin error 0 and that it can't load device fb0
[00:26] <Woolman> ok
[00:26] <vhugox> ilovefairuz: no, i don't have it installed. I try to find the package with aptitude and apt-cache, but it doesn't exist in the repositories.
[00:26] <kballash> what are the repositories?
[00:26] <Luija1006> kbrosnan: it says package could not be found 0_0
[00:26] <kballash> lol
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> extraclassic:  dosable the floppy in the bios? (the floppy controller_)
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> !repo | kballash
[00:26] <kbrosnan> Luija1006: read what duffydack said
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> !manual | kballash
[00:26] <Luija1006> sudo apt-get install sun-java sun-java-plugin/ sudo apt-get install sun-java6 sun-java6-plugin
[00:26] <Luija1006> I tried both
[00:26] <extraclassic> i haven't tried that....don't have a floppy but a 15-1 card reader
[00:26] <Woolman> I type slowly
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006:  you need to enable the 'partners' repository
[00:26] <razz1> duffydack: yes I can and i get the remote desktop prompt locally, and i haven't used samba before
[00:27] <duffydack> Luija1006, sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> extraclassic:  the pc may have a floppy controller onboard.. or is this a laptop?
[00:27] <ilovefairuz> vhugox: hmm it's in standard repos http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic
[00:27] <Luija1006> Dr_Willis: how?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006: the url from the !java factoid mentioned how i recall..
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: dude this is saweeeet
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> !partner | Luija1006
[00:27] <Luija1006> oh lol..
[00:27] <Luija1006> thanks
[00:27] <extraclassic> Dr_Willis it's a desktop....I think it might have one. Floppy was listed as a boot device
[00:28] <Luija1006> Dr_Willis: with the " " ?
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> extraclassic:  yep. i would check bios and disable any floppy controoler.. one PC i worked on.. actually HAD a floppy drive.. inside it.. you couldent access it from the  outside. :) guy had moved it to a new case.
[00:28] <vhugox> ilovefairuz: ok, thanks brother. I'm going to check out.
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006:  yes.. i would think so
[00:29] <nul> additional question.. am I looking at any major incompatabilities if I go amd64 nowadays? (pretty mature by now, no?)
[00:30] <nul> using it as a desktop in this case
[00:30] <duffydack> nul, go for it.
[00:30] <nul> k
[00:30] <Daekdroom> nul, flash is going to be your biggest problem
[00:30] <nul> how so Daekdroom?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> nul: its pretty decent dude, some apps are 32bit only but the ones on the repos are supported fully in both arches
[00:30] <tripelb> spinningcompass: (I lied, still on) OK I made the entire disk an extended partition. Format t is still greyed out. I tried to install. Still the drive is not seen by the install program. Next step? ((I thought I'd be smart enough by now. Way?))
[00:30] <Daekdroom> nul, you need a workaround
[00:30] <duffydack> Daekdroom, flash is always a problem :P
[00:30] <spinningcompass> tripelb: I see the problem. Please make it a primary partition.
[00:30] <gnoob> How do I remove startupsound?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> nul: flash is fine, there is nspluginwrapper, or you can use the 64bit flash ppa (3rd party) with flash 10.0
[00:31] <nul> =)
[00:31] <nul> no flash 10.1?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> down with flash :)
[00:31] <duffydack> 32bit works for me.. but 64bit security holey worked better
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> gnoob: System -> prefs -> sound
[00:31] <spinningcompass> tripelb: The extended partition is an old DOS hangover. It's a place where you can put multiple logical partitions. In your situation, I would use *one* primary partition and *one* swap partition. If you delete all partitions and then run the Ubuntu Live Installer, it should partition the disk for you.
[00:31] <extraclassic> Dr_Willis: your suggestion worked...I appreciate the help
[00:31] <gnoob> but from commandline?  Im sshing into a ltsp ubuntu server
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> nul: sure if you use 32bit + wrapper. If you install flashplugin-nonfree it will all be handled for you
[00:32] <nul> k :)\
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> extraclassic:  great.. what was the probolem? i forget..
[00:32] <extraclassic> floppy controller was enabled in the bios even though I don't have a floppy drive
[00:32] <nul> it's mostly an HTPC with additional capabilities hehe
[00:32] <extraclassic> so the ubuntu install froze
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> gnoob: set no sounds
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> extraclassic:  :) yep. the good old days
[00:32] <Luija1006> Dr_Willis: I added the repo and still could not find the java, also the link to your pages guides to install icedtea java
[00:33] <gnoob> ActionParsnip  hmm dont remeber how..  Tried the alsamixer.. but after a restart it went back to "standard"
[00:33] <spinningcompass> tripelb: http://www.mepisguides.com/Mepis-6/Install/gparted/gparted-set-partition.html
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Luija1006: tried this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-install-sun-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006:  enable the repos.. and you did 'update' the package listing?  You could use 'synaptic' for a nice gui for all this
[00:33] <extraclassic> Dr_Willis: I can't believe it was set up like that, cause it's only a year old and I got it build to order
[00:33] <duffydack> me guessing no apt-get update
[00:33] <spinningcompass> Dr_Willis:  Didn't you hear? Nice GUIs finish last. ;)
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> Ive never had any issues with the icedtea java. SO i rarely bother with the sun jkava
[00:33] <DOUglas> oi
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> extraclassic:  proberly the bios defaults..
[00:35] <wildman> hello #ubuntu
[00:35] <ilovefairuz> !hi | wildman
[00:35] <wildman> hello #ubuntu. Is there any way to 'downgrade' from ext4 to ext3 without data loss?
[00:36] <wildman> ilovefairuz: Fairuz... my mother listened to her all the time :)
[00:36] <duffydack> wildman, no
[00:36] <haugmeir> Where can I ask/find information about indicator-messages and libindicate? I'm trying to query whether there are unread messages in the Messaging Menu so that I can display that information in xmobar. I'm not sure if I can get that information from libindicate, and I've gotten pretty confused reading libindicate-doc.
[00:36] <wildman> duffydack: sigh... I guess I'll have to find another 1TB disk to backup this one then :(((( thx
[00:36] <ilovefairuz> wildman: please ask only ubuntu questions here, come to #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics :)
[00:37] <wildman> well, I'm running on Ubuntu, so this, albeit a general Linux question, does matter on Ubuntu :)
[00:37] <Luija1006> ActionParsnip: Dr_Willis thanks guys :)
[00:37] <ilovefairuz> wildman: and no you can't downgrade, the filesystem format is different
[00:37] <wildman> ilovefairuz, duffydack: ok, thanks a lot, and sorry if I've done an OT ;)
[00:37] <wildman> have a nice night/day/whatever fits for your timezone!
[00:37] <duffydack> wildman, cp -av stuff /elsewhere; mkfs.ext3 /dev/hmm; cp -av /elsewhere stuff/
[00:38] <wildman> yep, I need 'only' 1TB 'somewhere' to do that ;)
[00:38] <duffydack> wildman, heh
[00:38] <wildman> little kid bath time, bbl
[00:38] <duffydack> wildman, floppy disks..
[00:38] <duffydack> sorry :)
[00:39] <Jinxzs> how to make restore points in lucid like at M$
[00:40] <olskolirc> im trying to set up my weather plasma widget and I can't find the weather code for Pittsburgh Pa.  Any help would be appreciated - I can't even find it in google.
[00:40] <Slart> Jinxzs: I don't think you can.. not in an as simple way as in XP
[00:40] <x86br> hello, someone can tell me if the rtl8189se works outofbox on new ubuntu?
[00:41] <dickybob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfRcAshMqmo&playnext=1&videos=aICADUKfqtA
[00:41] <dickybob> :/
[00:41] <x86br> omg ahahhahahaha
[00:42] <Jinxzs> i could give it a try slart.
[00:42] <Slart> !backup | Jinxzs
[00:42] <x86br> so,..anyone?
[00:42] <x86br> :S
[00:42] <spinningcompass> Jinxzs: Is a slart like a lart?
[00:42] <Jinxzs> opss sorry x spell
[00:42]  * spinningcompass coughs
[00:43] <Jinxzs> thanks slart
[00:43] <Slart> Jinxzs: you're welcome
[00:44] <spinningcompass> I really should tinker w/ Mondo again.
[00:44] <x86br> pleaaase,..ehhehehe rtl8191se works or not on ubuntu
[00:44] <x86br> who know?
[00:44] <psycho_oreos> try it yourself
[00:44] <ilovefairuz> dickybob: post this stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[00:45] <tripelb>   spinningcompass - ah, thanks. meanwhile I found another page. it assumed lshw would see the disk, which it cant.  -- I mess around some more. I didnt click the "checkmark". <bold> This is Damn Obscure.</bold> I would expect a dialog box for confirmation. Now it is actually doing something that takes some time (which is what I would expect on a new terabite drive. ((I have a heckle with the workflow, clearly. But I will slog through it!
[00:45] <ilovefairuz> x86br: pastebin: lshw -C netwrok
[00:45] <ilovefairuz> !details | x86br
[00:46] <spinningcompass> tripelb: Cool. May the force be with you. :)
[00:46] <tripelb> spinningcompass: thanks. I'll return to install it later. That 15 minute install on a new drive estimate I got from Dr_Willis was off by many-time, hah.
[00:46] <tripelb> spinningcompass: and also with you!
[00:46] <orbisvicis> how exactly do I install packages from a different release again ?
[00:46] <orbisvicis> apt-get install release/pkgname ?
[00:47] <x86br> Not problem yet. Downloading now the Ubuntu 10. Just wanna know if the wireless card realtek8191se works out of box.
[00:47] <Slart> orbisvicis: man apt-get should tell you the specifics
[00:47] <x86br> alright, be right back. Let me test the ubuntu and let us know
[00:47] <ilovefairuz> x86br: that's the right way!
[00:49] <wildman> duffydack: hehe, indeed... I do have some 3.5in floppies around... just not enough ;)
[00:49] <LetsGo67> How much should I sell my computer for in CADs?  I have Pentium 4 3ghz faster than Speedy Gonzales, 512MB RAM memory.
[00:49] <LetsGo67> Sorry I meant to join #ubuntu--offtopic.
[00:50] <wildman> ilovefairuz: now comes an Ubuntu-10.04-only Q ;-) I've inadvertently wiped out the upper panel having the speaker, and docking area for some apps, like Transmission, how can I get it back?
[00:50] <wildman> upper panel -> applet in the upper panel
[00:51] <ilovefairuz> !panels | wildman
[00:51] <wildman> ilovefairuz: thanks a lot
[00:51] <Jordan_U> wildman: Right click > Add to panel > Notification Area
[00:51] <wildman> ah, better than lossing my current setup with ilovefairuz's tip
[00:51] <wildman> let's see
[00:52] <wildman> Jordan_U: thx, it did the trick
[00:52] <wildman> ilovefairuz: thx to you too
[00:52] <Jordan_U> wildman: You're welcome.
[00:54] <wildman> Jordan_U, ilovefairuz: though indeed the recursive-unset one did actually fully reset it. The Notification Area doesn't have the volume applet, for example
[00:54] <Peter-C> I think my download is frozen :S
[00:55] <Peter-C> It's been on "retriving file 1" for a while
[00:55] <Peter-C> And I can't move the mouse
[00:55] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey - i wanna run ubuntu on my macbook pro - have tried it out before, but i don't think i got it just right with the whole booting process, setting up grub and EFI correctly, so i wanna do it over. Currently, my macbook pro runs OS X, and i'm looking for some guides, clues and the likes for setting up partitions correctly for running ubuntu. Do you know any of such? Thanks. Btw, i'm not gonna do a dual boot, so its just clean ubuntu on macbo
[00:55] <ChrisBuchholz> pro
[00:55] <ilovefairuz> wildman: gnome-volume-control
[00:56] <wildman> ilovefairuz: thx
[00:56] <Peter-C> what should I do? Can I just restart my laptop?
[00:56] <Peter-C> Or will it ruin my computer
[00:56] <ilovefairuz> Peter-C: won't likely ruin stuff
[00:57] <wildman> ok ppl, gotta go, thanks for your help!
[00:57] <thune3> Peter-C: are you totally locked up? can you get tty (ctrl-alt-F1)
[00:58] <Peter-C> thune3 to late :/
[00:58] <thune3> Peter-C: fsck will run, but you will likely be fine
[00:59] <ilovefairuz> ChrisBuchholz: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[00:59] <Peter-C> Everything looks ok :D
[01:02] <ChrisBuchholz> ilovefairuz: thank you very much
[01:02] <huda> hhhhhi
[01:02] <ilovefairuz> !hi | huda
[01:02] <ilovefairuz> ChrisBuchholz: you're welcome
[01:03] <x86br> install not suceful x.x
[01:03] <ilovefairuz> !details | x86br
[01:03] <x86br> how i can boot using a external drive usb?
[01:03] <ilovefairuz> !unetbootin | x86br
[01:03] <x86br> i try use unetboot for make the external drive bootable
[01:04] <x86br> not pendrive,..i mean a usb external
[01:04] <ilovefairuz> x86br: i think it's essentially the same process, as long as the computer can boot from it
[01:05] <x86br> from pendrive works great,..but using external usb hd doesnt boot
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> x86br:  Unetbootin can do that. or you could do a normal install to a exteranal usb hard drive
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> x86br:  unetbootin will do a 'live cd' type setup on the HD.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> x86br:  that wonet let you save changes.. and it will be a LOT slower then a normal install
[01:06] <x86br> hmmm, let me try
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> if instgalling to a external HD. be SURE in teh last dialog of the installer  - the advanced button. to tell it where to install grub to. You want the USB hd.. NOT the internal HD.
[01:07] <x86br> i want extract to external usb and use it for install to internal
[01:07] <x86br> like a pendrive,..
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> x86br:  then the unetbootin setup can do that.
[01:08] <TxMatt> http://s7icky.com/ufc/ufc-117-live-stream/ starts in 1 hour for those of you who want to watch it:)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> TxMatt:  and thats ubuntu related how exactly?
[01:09] <laughter> hey, I'm currently running bleachbit, it is removing abou 1.5 GB and it has been saying that it is cleaning the system for about 20 minutes? is this typical?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> laughter:  ive noticed it taking a VERY long time also.. i think it may be hanging, OR you selected the clean free area option
[01:10] <haugmeir> Is this the best IRC channel to ask about Ubuntu-specific APIs? Is there a better targeted channel?
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> haugmeir:  theres may be some more specific ones.. but you can ask in here and perhaps get pointers to them
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> i dont do any programing :) (well very little)
[01:11] <laughter> Dr_Willis, i did select the free space option, the idea of freeing a gig of space sounded amazing.  it warned it would slow things, but it's been chillin for a while
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> laughter:  its actually overwriting the free space to 'securely delete' things from how i read the tooltops
[01:12] <x86br> brb, gona try boot using external hd
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> laughter:  i think that option should proberly be disabled by default. :) its a little over paranoid
[01:12] <test34> haugmeir, maybe #ubuntu-devel ?
[01:13] <laughter> Dr_Willis, yeah, that's what i was thinking, i have no secrets, so i will never run it again.  i'll just give it some more time. thanks!
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> laughter:  it would be nice if bleachbit also let you know the last time a 'fix' has been ran. I dont see the point in doing some of those cleaning tasks more then once a week :)
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> laughter:  i got a 1TB HD.. so it was going to take it some time. :)
[01:14] <Jinxzs> i have 2 disk in gparted but i do see only 1 in mycomputer. i want to know where the ubuntu installed
[01:15] <haugmeir> test34: The channel list says that's for "Ubuntu development coordination", which sounds like it's meant for people who are actually working on developing Ubuntu, and not just people who want to mess with an API. I did try #ubuntu-app-devel, which was really the closest thing I could find. It's pretty quiet there.
[01:15] <laughter> Dr_Willis, true, i'm fairly religious about deleting old packages and the like, bleachbit will be added to the weekly cleaning!
[01:15] <stepenmac7> How do I enable XAMCP support in my gdm?
[01:15] <Adventurer> This is perhaps a stupid question (it may or may not be OS specific, but since I'm building a linux rig I thought I'd ask it here). I am building a new computer, I  have 2 x nVidia 8400GT graphics cards using two pci-express (x16) slots. Can I use both of them for quad monitor (they each have a dual head setup with one dvi and one vga port). I'd like to have quad monitor or something setup, but wasn't sure if I needed SLI.
[01:15] <unperson> I'm setting up key-based auth for ssh.  My private key is password connected, but ideally I'd like to have access to it cached with some timeout.  It looks like something like this happens by default with gnome-keyring-manager.  How do I set a timeout period?  Also, does this require gnome to be running for the caching to work?  So, if I login remotely caching won't work?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Jinxzs:  the / mountpoint is   shown as 'Filesystem' here. you can check in /media/ and the mount command output to see where things are at.
[01:16] <unperson> (Somehow I'm guessing that the answer to my first question will involve gconf  :-/ )
[01:16] <laughter> Dr_Willis, a window popped up to prompt me that I have 0 bytes remaining and i should empty my trash, i hope that means bleachbit progress, or is this a bug?
[01:16] <unperson> stepenmac7, I'm guessing you mean XMDCP?
[01:16] <x86br> no advance
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> Adventurer:  sli is for Hard core games normally. You shoudl be able to do 4 monitors also.
[01:17] <AndrewMC> laughter~ this is bleechbit working
[01:17] <x86br> on boot ask for boot mgr
[01:17] <AndrewMC> laughter~ dont worry
[01:17] <Adventurer> Dr_Willis, is there any special config in ubuntu needed for it to recognize the two seperate video cards?
[01:17] <Jinxzs> yea i could see it Dr_Willis
[01:17] <Adventurer> I'm just trying to decide if I should go out and buy another LCD monitor tonight :(
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> Adventurer:  takes me all of 30 sec to run nvidia-config and get my multi=head monitor setups going
[01:17] <laughter> AndrewMC, thanks, oh no worries, it's my first time running it and i didnt know what was typical
[01:17] <AndrewMC> Adventurer~ there shoudnt be
[01:18] <Adventurer> Thanks a lot <3
[01:18] <x86br> dr_willis master, whats wrong? on boot ask for boot mgr x.x
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> Adventurer:  you got a Deskt big enough for 4 monitors?
[01:18] <Adventurer> Yeah, built a desk myself by hand lol
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> x86br:  never heard/seen that errior message befor. Tell the channel the details
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> Adventurer:  i saw a 'twin' monitor the other day. 2 Monitors with one 'stand'
[01:18] <Adventurer> was a little bit harder then "make desk" || "sudo make install desk"
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> Adventurer:  4x8 Plywood. and 2 sawhorses..
[01:19] <Adventurer> lol, I got the plan for mine off some goat in a tree website.. can't remember the URL off hand.
[01:19] <x86br> well, ubuntu extracted using unetboot on external usb hd. Reboot and select the external usb and got this message. bootmgr
[01:19] <Adventurer> I've sunk 800$ into my rig now, so I'm hoping it's worth it lol.
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> x86br:  You sure the pc is booting form the usb hd? it could be unetbooti messed up. I never use its 'instal,. to hard disk' type feature. I only use it with flash drives.
[01:20] <steevo_> hello
[01:20] <unperson> stepenmac7, Or XDMCP, even.  :-)  I haven't used it (personally use NX), but this might get you started in the right direction:  http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28158/Remote_Login_via_XDMCP_on_Ubuntu
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> Adventurer:  by xmas it will be a $400 rig.
[01:20] <Ghosty> i am having authentication failure with su root, but i have the password set correctly, and can even login as root
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> Ghosty:  perhaps 'sudo -s' ?
[01:20] <x86br> yes 100% sure.
[01:20] <Ghosty> i dont need to run as root
[01:21] <x86br> :S ill die with windows
[01:21] <Ghosty> i actually need to subtitute user
[01:21] <x86br> sad end heheheh
[01:21] <Adventurer> I know it will be :). AM3 Mobo, AMD Athlon II X4 Processor at 3.0Ghz. 2 x 2TB Sata HDD's, HDMI, USB3.0 Ports on the mobo, 2 x nVidia 8400GT, liquid cooling kit, antec 300 illuminated case, 2 x dvd burners.
[01:21] <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, i was using root as an example, i cannot su to any user
[01:21] <Ghosty> authentication failure
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> Ghosty:  you are using the password of the User you are suing TO?
[01:22] <Ghosty> yes
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> SU-ing. :) su'ing ? :)
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> Ghosty:  so if you 'sudo adduser billgates' and 'su billgates'  it also fails eh?
[01:23] <Ghosty> ill try that now
[01:24] <stepenmac7> I saw that. gdmsetup is different. I also use the xfce theme so it does not have an options menu
[01:24] <olskolirc> found it never mind thanks
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> stepenmac7:  gdm2 in ubuntu has been radically changes since the older GDM.
[01:24] <stepenmac7> I am only planning on viewing (to test my arch linux server)
[01:24] <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, yes it fails
[01:24] <steevo_> what are the best media players for linux
[01:24] <rdavila> Hi guys, I've a mobile phone Nokia 1600: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_1600 connected to my pc and my question is how to I can see if the device has been recognized by ubuntu an get its device name under /dev ?
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> Ghosty:  odd. makes me wonder what changes you did to the system
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> steevo_:  depends on your exact needs.
[01:25] <stepenmac7> Exactly, so I can't change it. Wait 5 min.
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> !players | steevo_
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> steevo_: there is NO BEST anything in life
[01:25] <steevo_> DR_Willis:Amazing video quality
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> steevo_: well, single best
[01:25] <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, im thinking, a mistake i made a while back, might be causing it
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> steevo_:  then you want to ask whats the best 'video' player.. :) ?
[01:25] <shawnboy> I mount shares over my LAN using cifs or nfs, but how do I mount (CLI) a drive on another Ubuntu machine to /media/mountpoint/ ?
[01:26] <steevo_> Dr_Willis:sorry
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> steevo_: video quality depends on the codec, not the player
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> steevo_:  try the different ones out. decide what you want.
[01:26] <Ghosty> i ran chown incorrectly, and accidentaily changed all perms from root dir on.. i fixed it, and fixed sudo
[01:26] <steevo_> Let me refraze. what is the best video player for linux
[01:26] <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, but i dont know how to fix su
[01:26] <Ghosty> steevo_, mplayer is nice
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> steevo_:  if you want just to play videos.. vlc, mplayer, smplayer,  gnomes movieplayer, .
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> steevo_: there is no single best app for anything, there is no single best anything in life
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> steevo_:  if you want a fancy 'home theater system/gui' => xbmc, moovidia, enna, boxee
[01:27] <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, can you help?
[01:27] <rooks> what torrent client for headless server would you guys reccomend, preferably something that has normal gui that can one attach to with
[01:27] <ilovefairuz> Seveas: I found it http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/introduction-to-mysql-55.html !
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> Ghosty:  untill we kniow what you changed.. i cant really help.
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> steevo_: best is a comparison of a product to needs and/or taste, no all users needs are the same so there will never be a single best
[01:27] <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, i just said it
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> Ghosty:  sounds like you got some perms wrong from your chown.. that may be very very veyr hard to fix
[01:27] <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, im thinking, a mistake i made a while back, might be causing it
[01:27] <unperson> stepenmac7, Unfortunately I don't think I can be much help, having never messed with it.  Hopefully someone else has.
[01:28] <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, <Ghosty> i ran chown incorrectly, and accidentaily changed all perms from root dir on.. i fixed it, and fixed sudo
[01:28] <aloon> I have no virtual terminals ctrl-alt-fkey , Nvidia 310M video , I cant get them to be anything but black screen , i'm good with linux and have been searching for months , can anyone point me in the right direction ?
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> Ghosty:  so you chowned  EVERYTHING by mistake..  souinds liek it may be time for a reinstall..
[01:28] <unperson> stepenmac7, I considered it before, but dropped it the idea for security reasons.  Maybe that's not an issue in your case, though.
[01:28] <Ghosty> Dr_Willis, darn...:(
[01:28] <Ghosty> thanks
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> Ghosty:  thats the only sure fix - i can think of.
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> Ghosty:  or reinstall every package.. (which may take even longer)
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> aloon:  i had the same issue with the default  NEOUVU drivers.. but once i instgalled the nvbidia drivers. they started working
[01:29] <aloon> i'm using nvidia-current  (185)
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> aloon:  odd that yours is still having the issue. perhaps blacklist the framebuffer module the consoel are using
[01:29] <coz_> aloon,   which     version of ubuntu ?
[01:29] <aloon> under nouveau they worked ... I should have looked at xorg.conf at the time
[01:30] <aloon> 10.04
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> default xorg.conf is empty. :)
[01:30] <aloon> fresh install
[01:30] <coz_> aloon,  ok you meant  driver 195 then   just makng sure
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> aloon:  i would guess plymouth, or framebuffer issue.
[01:30] <aloon> ive tried both
[01:30] <aloon> i get good splash res , but no VT's
[01:31] <Mr_Giraffe> is there any way to set up a guest login in Lucid that works from the login screen?
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> I disabled plymouth the other day.. notice4d today.. its some how got re-enabled. :)
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> Mr_Giraffe:  'sudo adduser guest' :)
[01:31] <aloon> i also tried many settings 1024x768 24 bit , 1699X  etc
[01:31] <aloon> but never get VT's
[01:31] <Mr_Giraffe> Dr_Willis, that technically works...
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> Mr_Giraffe:  i think theres some guest-gdm package also for that.
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> aloon:  tried those settings where exactly?
[01:32] <aloon> xorg.conf
[01:32] <aloon> as the plymouth fixing wikis show
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> aloon:  the xorg.conf does not affect the console res's - thats the framebuffer stuff.
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> aloon:  which is why i suggested blackinsting the framebuffer
[01:32] <unperson> No one has any idea about setting the timeout on the gnome keyring?
[01:33] <aloon> http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> aloon:  i had to blacklist the --> vga16fb   module - so the consoles are using the old-fashoned normal text only console. no framebuffer.. and they work decently well for me now.. FASTER then using the framebuffer also
[01:33] <aloon> thats a typical link to fixing plymout ... it covers the frame-buffer etc
[01:33] <aloon> in the nvidia install was blacklisting all them and noveau
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> the nviodias install did not blacklist vga16fb   - last i checked here..
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> since i see it loaded on my other nvidia box. :)
[01:34] <aloon> no , i did it as part of the instructions
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> aloon:  what if you close out X, 'sudo service gdm stop' does the consoels come back?
[01:35] <XunZi_> is there anything similar to .chm for Ubuntu but with pdf support?
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> XunZi_:  theres chm readers for ubuntu.
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> XunZi_: do you want a chm viewer?
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> theres chm2pdf congerters also
[01:35] <XunZi_> no no, I want to make something similar to chm.
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> i think.. ;)
[01:35] <aloon> one sec I'll try that
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> why not html?
[01:35] <XunZi_> I want to group documents into one single file with search, toc features
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> XunZi_:  use tiddly wiki or 'woas' (wiki on a stick) :) but that may be overkill.
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> Or perhaps not..
[01:36] <list> nick severity1
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> http://tinyurl.com/25alfkn
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> oops . missclick
[01:38] <XunZi_> Dr_Willis, problem is, I need math support, means easy to include math symbols
[01:39] <TomOwens> I have an existing PGP Key on the MIT server. How can I set that as "My Personal Key" in the Passwords and Encryption Keys tool?
[01:39] <stepenmac7> It isn't
[01:40] <Kyuusai-San> hiyu does anyone know how i can get japanese characters to display in file folders
[01:40] <ilovefairuz> TomOwens: Remote > Find Remote Keys
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> bbl ya all...
[01:40] <Zorix> whats the best process for updating the nvidia binary drivers on ubuntu from 195 to 256?
[01:40] <white> New install of Ubuntu Server 10.04 x64, after install when the BIOS hands off to GRUB the word GRUB is printed to the screen and then it just stops.  Already re-installed GRUB, what's the problem?
[01:40] <TomOwens> ilovefairuz: Yeah. I did that. But my Key is not in My Personal Keys. It's in Other Keys.
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Zorix: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/how-to-install-nvidia-25635-display.html   is one way, there is no best way
[01:41] <mattwj2002> hi anyone here?
[01:41] <mattwj2002> sorry dumb question
[01:41] <Zorix> ActionParsnip,  anything is better than running the binary driver script from nvidia, caused my system not to boot
[01:41] <zaftig> i am here lol
[01:41] <mattwj2002> I found at least part of that bug
[01:41] <mattwj2002> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tightvnc/+bug/572389
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Zorix: if you use the bin file you will need to run it each time you get a new kernel
[01:42] <Kyuusai-San> hiyu does anyone know how i can get japanese characters to display in file folders
[01:42] <trism> Kyuusai-San: if they are utf8 they should work fine, if they're shift-jis or something else you'll need to view them in the ja_JP locale
[01:42] <Zorix> ActionParsnip,  yea and it used to work, now it just causes problems
[01:42] <mattwj2002> I think I might be affected by this too I am not sure my ubuntu box is broke right now!
[01:42] <ilovefairuz> TomOwens: it grabs only the public key
[01:42] <mattwj2002> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tightvnc/+bug/237362
[01:42] <TomOwens> ilovefairuz: Yeah.
[01:42] <TomOwens> How do I grab my private key?
[01:43] <ilovefairuz> TomOwens: you don't grab it from a server, you import it from a file, like a usb stick
[01:43] <Zorix> ActionParsnip,  this x-updates ppa, does it update anything else other than display drivers?
[01:43] <unperson> TomOwens, Your private key should not be on the key server.
[01:43] <alex87> i'm looking for something similar to google wave (foss), where i can add a few people to a topic and we can colaborate. any ideas?
[01:43] <Kyuusai-San> trism erm how do i view them in this locale
[01:43] <ilovefairuz> TomOwens: don't you have it saved somewhere? the key server only contains public keys
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Zorix: i believe it has a later version of xorg as well, check it out. I'd just install the driver etc then remove it
[01:43] <TomOwens> ilovefairuz: Ah. So I can import it from my Windows machine?
[01:43] <trism> Kyuusai-San: as long as you have the fonts installed from System/Administration/Language Support for Japanese
[01:43] <TomOwens> I made the key using gpg4win.
[01:44] <XunZi_> what is the command to start the hard disks management tool?
[01:44] <Zorix> ActionParsnip,  ok thats what i was afriad of
[01:44] <ilovefairuz> TomOwens: mount the partition and browse for the file
[01:44] <TomOwens> It's a separate computer.
[01:44] <trism> Kyuusai-San: you can log into gnome setting the language to 日本語
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> Zorix: if you just install the driver and don't run upgrade, you will be fine
[01:44] <TomOwens> I can throw it on an external drive or something. It's good now. Thanks.
[01:44] <ilovefairuz> TomOwens: you're welcome
[01:45] <mattwj2002> :O
[01:45] <mattwj2002> there is a workaround!
[01:45] <mattwj2002> :D
[01:45] <Zorix> ActionParsnip,  thanks
[01:45] <trism> Kyuusai-San: or set LANG=ja_JP.utf8 before running nautilus, or export it to view them in the shell
[01:46] <ilovefairuz> XunZi_: palimpset
[01:46] <ilovefairuz> XunZi_:  palimpsest
[01:49] <clerison> Boa noite
[01:49] <ilovefairuz> alex87: use an XMPP server? it can interoperate with google/gmail accounts (through gtalk)
[01:50] <white> Anyone have any idea why a new 10.04 install would simply print the word GRUB and not boot?
[01:51] <Oer> white did you check de md5sum of the iso ?
[01:51] <jamiewan> white: has it booted before or this the first time?
[01:51] <Peter-C> Can I use TorK on Gnome?
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> white: boot to livecd, chroot to the install and upgrade the system
[01:51] <white> New install, never booted.
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Peter-C: sure
[01:51] <Peter-C> ActionParsnip even though it's for KDE?
[01:52] <Peter-C> Or will ubuntu get mad?
[01:52] <AndrewMC> Peter-C~ nope youll be fine
[01:52] <white> 0er: No, but other installs with this ISO went fine.
[01:52] <misc--> does anyone know how to record internet radio storing the song name as the file name? So each new song that gets played will get saved as that song name rather than one big wav or mp3 file?
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Peter-C: you can run KDE apps in Gnome as long as you have all the Qt libs required. Its a bit of bloat but it will run
[01:52] <Peter-C> K, thanks :)
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Peter-C: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-torprivoxy-and-tor-gui-programs-vidaliatork-and-torbuttonin-ubuntu.html
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Peter-C: there are alternatives
[01:54] <severity1> clear
[01:54] <jeremyn> i'm getting a "Failed to load module 'nvidia' (module does not exist 0)" after just installing nvidia drivers through Hardware Drivers, any ideas?
[01:54] <jeremyn> ubuntu will only boot in low-graphics mode
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> jeremyn: reinstall your nvidia driver
[01:55] <jeremyn> i just did, specifically i apt-get removed nvidia*, then installed nvidia-common, then went to hardware driver and installed the recommended nvidia driver, and rebooted
[01:56] <white> ActionParsnip: I booted into the server CD, used the real root (LVM lv) and used grub-install on it, but it still won't boot.
[01:56] <chrislabeard> Hey guys, I'm using EHCP for my web server and for some reason the server can't write to the domains directories anyone know how to fix this?
[01:56] <chrislabeard> the directories are 755
[01:56] <white> chrislabeard: SELinux enabled?
[01:56] <jeremyn> ActionParsnip: but i'm up for reinstalling, what specifically should i do?
[01:56] <chrislabeard> white: not sure what is that
[01:57] <alex87> ilovefairuz, xmpp is just the protocol right? the conversations wouldn't be stored anywhere?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> jeremyn: what nvidia chip are you using?
[01:57] <ilovefairuz> alex87: there are sever implementations of the protocol and I believe some of them support conversation logging and offline messages
[01:58] <jeremyn> ActionParsnip: it's a quadro 140, it uses nvidia-173. this has worked before, i'm just trying to restore from backup
[01:58] <hotstew> Is gaming under Wine or virtualization worth it? Or is dualboot clearly the winner here?
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> jeremyn: tr: sudo apt-get --reinstall install dkms
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> hotstew: depends on the game
[01:58] <alex87> ilovefairuz, thanks, i'll look into it. maybe what i need is more of a bulletin board, just with better access control
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | hotstew
[01:59] <jamiewan> hotstew: Wine works great with chosen games
[01:59] <hotstew> fair
[01:59] <ilovefairuz> jeremyn: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480804&page=2   suggests doing a memtest
[01:59] <jeremyn> hotstew: dual boot or you're setting yourself up for heartache down the road
[01:59] <hotstew> I'm trying out Alien Swarm under Wine now.
[01:59] <white> ActionParsnip: So a reinstall of GRUB did not fix it, any other guess?  Note I set up software RAID0 during the install then LVM on top of that.
[01:59] <mattwj2002> I like wine when it works
[01:59] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:59] <hotstew> Tried it under Windows an hour ago and it's great
[01:59] <jamiewan> hotstew: just gotta experiment a bit maybe a few little hacks but usually pretty good
[02:00] <mattwj2002> I actually would go as far to say I love wine when it works
[02:00] <hotstew> I don't know...
[02:00] <jeremyn> ilovefairuz: thanks but i am confident it is not memory
[02:00] <hotstew> maybe I'll do both but keep my windows partition small
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> hotstew: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20839   platinum rating :)
[02:00] <mattwj2002> I use it for the sling player
[02:00] <mattwj2002> :D
[02:00] <jeremyn> ActionParsnip: reinstalled dkms without problem, restrated and it still is in low graphics mode
[02:00] <hotstew> yeah I've checked winehq for several programs
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> jeremyn: I always use: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[02:00] <hotstew> playing MTGO under VirtualBox :3
[02:00] <wildbat> white, don't ubuntu only boot from RAID1?
[02:01] <Palm76> Hey guy's. I have a problem. I installed Windows 7 and afterwards I wanted to reinstall grub to the mbr.For some reason grub wouldn't reinstall to the mbr en I did something really dumb. I cleared the mbr with "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1". When I realized what I did it was too late. The entire mbr is erased including the partition table. Is there a way te rewrite the partition table without loosing everything or am I screwed?
[02:01] <ilovefairuz> jeremyn: try reinstall the packages and then purge them not just remove
[02:01] <white> wildbat: My bad, I meant RAID1, mirror.
[02:02] <jeremyn> ilovefairuz: which packages, specifically?
[02:02] <m_tadeu> hi...I have a umts modem that supports gsm. is there any app make mobile calls?
[02:02] <ilovefairuz> jeremyn: nvidia-*
[02:02] <wildbat> Palm76, try testdisk
[02:03] <Palm76> @ Wildbat: I already downloaded the static binary but I can't figure out how to start it
[02:04] <ilovefairuz> Palm76: boot the live cd and check sudo fdisk -l
[02:04] <Oer> m_tadeu, ekiga or skype ?
[02:04] <ilovefairuz> Palm76: join IRC from there and pastebin the output
[02:04] <m_tadeu> Oer: I was thinking about using my mobile sim
[02:04] <m_tadeu> Oer: I was thinking about using my mobile sim card in my umts modem
[02:05] <wildbat> Palm76, huh start from !terminal ~
[02:05] <Palm76> Here's the output of fdisk -l. Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[02:05] <Palm76> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
[02:05] <Palm76> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:05] <Palm76> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[02:05] <Palm76> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[02:05] <FloodBot2> Palm76: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <Palm76> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[02:05] <ilovefairuz> !paste > Palm76
[02:05] <Oer> m_tadeu, ekiga does SIP
[02:06] <aloon> I tried sudo service stop gdm and went to black screen ... nvidia 10.04
[02:06] <coz_> aloon,  try   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:06] <aloon> no virtual terminals is my last problem after troubleshooting many issues. Any help greatly appreciated
[02:07] <jeremyn> ilovefairuz: i just uninstalled the nvidia drivers and now it won't even load gdm
[02:07] <m_tadeu> Oer: I don't want SIP...I'm looking for something to use a GSM call
[02:07] <jeremyn> ilovefairuz: black screen, what a bummer
[02:07] <ilovefairuz> jeremyn:  alt + ctrl + f2 ?
[02:07] <aloon> thing is should i try that from a terminal with X running ?
[02:07] <aloon> black screen janhouse
[02:07] <jeremyn> ilovefairuz: couldn't get to a console, oddly
[02:08] <Palm76> http://paste.ubuntu.com/474732/ here's pastebin
[02:08] <wildbat> Palm76, testdisk can recover your disk
[02:10] <Palm76> @ wildbat: I made it executable and tried to execute it from the commandline but it doesn't start
[02:10] <dodecanesand> i am looking for a cook
[02:10] <Viking667> how do I find what uninstalled package contains libGL.so  ?
[02:10] <wildbat> Palm76, huh? you can install it from apt ~ " apt-get install testdisk"
[02:10] <Viking667> Because at the moment, a program I'm trying to use (Squeak-4.0.3-2202) isn't seeing it
[02:11] <dodecanesand> Viking667: turn back the time
[02:11] <Palm76> wildbat: I didn;t know that. I'll install it right now.
[02:11] <Viking667> *blink*
[02:11] <dodecanesand> how did ya uninstall?
[02:11] <dodecanesand> apt-get remove purge?
[02:12] <Viking667> uninstall what?
[02:12] <dodecanesand> those application used ligbl.sl
[02:12] <dodecanesand> those application used ligbl.so
[02:12] <ilovefairuz> Viking667: well it depends on the display driver..
[02:12] <Oer> dodecanesand,  aptitude show <package-name>
[02:12] <Viking667> no no... The application is installed (it's from a shar file)
[02:13] <Preludelinux> someone sent me a beta ticket ... its all i seen in my inbox ...
[02:13] <alex87> why is it impossible to copy a dvd in ubuntu anymore? constant input/output errors...
[02:13] <Viking667> and as ATI aren't showing any luvving for my particular older card, I can't use their driver either...
[02:13] <dodecanesand> why tomatoe jar needs milk?
[02:13] <Viking667> so it has to be the "opensource" driver... but how does that affect libGL.so ?
[02:13] <ilovefairuz> Viking667: take your pick http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libgl.so&mode=exactfilename&suite=lucid&arch=any
[02:14] <white> Any other ideas on why a new 10.04 install just prints the word GRUB and refuses to boot even after re-installing GRUB?
[02:14] <Viking667> have you updated the grub bootloader itself?
[02:14] <Oer> white did you check de md5sum of the iso ?
[02:14] <ilovefairuz> Viking667: you probably need to install libgl1-mesa-dev
[02:14] <psycho789> are there any good PCs I could buy witout WIndows on it?
[02:14] <Viking667> got that.
[02:15] <white> 0er: It's not the ISO, I installed with that ISO many other times.
[02:15] <dodecanesand> white: cause linux has some problems with grub
[02:15] <ilovefairuz> white: boot live cd and pastebin: sudo fdisk -l
[02:15] <ilovefairuz> !paste > white
[02:15] <Viking667> whoops, no I don't. That's weird.
[02:15] <psycho789> !paste > psycho789
[02:15] <ilovefairuz> dodecanesand: this is nonsense talk either be specific or don't spread general misinformation
[02:16] <dodecanesand> ilovefairuz: i am fnord yes sorry
[02:16] <white> Viking667: I already booted into the server CD, went into rescue mode, used the real root, ran grub-install
[02:16] <Palm76> Well, testdisk is running and at least it found the first primary partition formatted to NTFS
[02:16] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[02:16] <dodecanesand> how can i learn AFD to my dreambox?
[02:16] <Kljaver> matrixblue: what?
[02:17] <mattwj2002> has anyone ever tried running a server of CF disk?
[02:17] <aloon> still get a black screen.
[02:17] <mattwj2002> cf = compact flash?
[02:17] <mattwj2002> oops there shouldn't have been a question mark there
[02:17] <mattwj2002> :P
[02:17] <dodecanesand> my tv receiver runs on linux, i get mad to install ADF
[02:17] <jamiewan> dodecanesand: most peoples problems with grub come from them playing around with stuff they know nothing about
[02:17] <wildbat> Palm76, give it some time ~ no worry you can recover all
[02:17] <ilovefairuz> white: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[02:17] <mattwj2002> I know Cisco routers run on CF disk
[02:17] <mattwj2002> some of them anyways
[02:18] <thune3> Palm76: are you still booted into the same session you cleared the mbr from?
[02:18] <dodecanesand> jamiewan: yeah i played with grub too, its very strange. i hope someone build a better grub with xml config, and gui to configure
[02:18] <wildbat> Palm76, it will have to scan for the whole disk which take times
[02:18] <Palm76> wildbat: I hope so.
[02:18] <mattwj2002> I was thinking of buying a CF to IDE adapter
[02:18] <Palm76> thune: yes I am
[02:19] <chrOnik> what driver do i need for ubuntu 64 with a  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] ?
[02:19] <dodecanesand> i dont see any reason to upgrade to 10.4 cause this gfx driver is annoying the whole install
[02:19] <chrOnik> cant seem to get full resolution working
[02:19] <chrOnik> please help its annoying as hell
[02:19] <jamiewan> dodecanesand: nvidia?
[02:19] <dodecanesand> yeah
[02:19] <tesuji> hi - will anything break if i disable gvfs?  and how would i do it?
[02:19] <josephnexus> anyone know if maverick will _finally_ fix the funguloids package?
[02:20] <[jfcaron]> I'm having trouble with a digital camera USB interface.  Under 8.10 it worked alright, but now with 10.04, it is barely recognized at all.  When I plug the camera into the USB and select Webcam Mode (on the camera), nothing is added to /dev/video.  The kernel does recognize a USB device though:  /var/log/kern.log: "usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"  Anyone have any ideas on how to further troubleshoot?
[02:20] <ilovefairuz> chrOnik: it's 'radeon' and don't expect any thing modern from it, it's very old
[02:20] <tesuji> hi - will anything break if i disable gvfs?  and how would i do it?
[02:21] <chrOnik> i know ilovefairuz
[02:21] <ilovefairuz> tesuji: why disable? yes trash will break
[02:21] <Palm76> Testdisk is at 42% now
[02:21] <Oer> chrOnik, i use a 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2) and use Nvidia 173
[02:21] <chrOnik> i think the drivers are installed just no 1920x1080 i, can't seem to find out  on google
[02:21] <thune3> Palm76: testdisk might get everthing (i've never used it). /sys/class/block/sda?/ files "start" and "size" might still have useful information for reconstructing partition table.
[02:22] <ilovefairuz> chrOnik: lshw -C display
[02:22] <tesuji> ilovefairuz, something is constantly accessing disk and i think that's it - running on a thumbdrive and that will kill it over time
[02:22] <blino_> ciao!
[02:23] <bazhang> !it | blino_
[02:23] <mlmg317-himts> Hello.  I am trying to connect my Western Digital My Book.  Ubuntu 9.10 won't detect it when I plug it into one of the USB ports.  Can I do something to command Ubuntu to read detect what is plugged into the USB port?
[02:23] <[jfcaron]> mlmg317-himts: try "lsusb"
[02:24] <chrOnik> ilovefairuz: pastebin.com/A8Yy5hbY
[02:24] <chrOnik> does that look right?
[02:24] <[jfcaron]> mlmg317-himts: If you do it before and after plugging it in, the new entry should be your device.
[02:24] <TomOwens> Thanks for your help tonight, everyone. Good night.
[02:24] <tesuji> ilovefairuz, something is constantly accessing disk and i think that's it - running on a thumbdrive and that will kill it over time
[02:25] <ilovefairuz> chrOnik: yes looks fine, does your monitor support the higher resolution you want?
[02:25] <chrOnik> yes ofc
[02:25] <ilovefairuz> tesuji: iotop
[02:25] <chrOnik> it worked fine on my old ubuntu setup after a few reboots
[02:26] <DOUglas> eu sou brasileiro com muito orgulho com muito amor
[02:26] <chrOnik> i just duno, what i did to fix it :/ to show 1920x1080
[02:26] <dodecanesand> if ubuntu crashes, where do i have to put the machine oil into the system?
[02:26] <ilovefairuz> !br | DOUglas
[02:27] <Oer> !br | DOUglas
[02:27] <ilovefairuz> chrOnik: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[02:28] <chrOnik> ilovefairuz thanks will look now,
[02:28] <DOUglas> quero conversar com brasileiros
[02:28] <mlmg317-himts> jfcaron: OK - I get a read out when I enter "lsusb" before plugging it in.  Terminal just stalls when I enter that command after plugging it in ...
[02:28] <xangua> !pt > DOUglas
[02:29] <[jfcaron]> mlmg317-himts: Hum, by the way I'm not an expert at all, I just happen to have remembered the "lsusb" command.  If it's a large hard drive, maybe it needs to spend some time reading the disk before it can respond?  I have no idea though, sorry. =\
[02:29] <chrOnik> ilovefairuz: it shows maximum 4096 x 4096
[02:29] <chrOnik> with xrander as my maxium wtf :/
[02:30] <mlmg317-himts> jfcaron: OK.  What does "lsusb" do?
[02:30] <psycho_oreos> gives you output of connected USB devices
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> list usb devices = 'lsusb'
[02:30] <bazhang> dodecanesand, alteregoa you don't.
[02:30] <ilovefairuz> chrOnik: pastebin
[02:30] <mlmg317-himts> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[02:31] <mlmg317-himts> jfcaron: It worked before when I plugged it in ...
[02:31] <Viking667> ilovefairuz: thank you for your suggestion - it seems to have fixed the problem I had.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> plug it in. check 'dmesg' output also..
[02:31] <ilovefairuz> Viking667: you're welcome
[02:32] <chrOnik> okay, 1sec
[02:32] <mlmg317-himts> Would anyone else have a clue?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> brb
[02:33] <chrOnik> ilovefairuz: pastebin.com/PvzeisVT
[02:33] <chrOnik> ah let me try this
[02:33] <aloon> still no virtual terminals. I have tried startup-manager in the past but it didnt help get VT's working , I did a fresh install of Lucid and havent got startup-manager this time
[02:34] <Viking667> Right. Time I rebooted... bye all.
[02:35] <mattwj2002> bbiab
[02:35] <Palm76> Testdisk only found the NTFS partition Windows is on :-(
[02:35] <tripelb> Again (sigh) I want to install ubuntu on my HD (sata new formatted recognized.by.the.gui), Install does not see it. Nautilus sees it. Is install "stuck at" the way my computer was when I booted up at first rather than what it is now??  (If so, how UNlinuxlike!!)
[02:36] <aloon> can anyone tell me what their GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= line is in /etc/default/grub ? I'm wanting to see how it compares to mine.
[02:36] <aloon> ... so I can get VT's working
[02:36] <ilovefairuz> chrOnik: cvt 1920 1080    and pastebin
[02:36] <chrOnik> yeh
[02:36] <chrOnik> ilovefairuz: i just did that
[02:37] <chrOnik> was just reading that as u typed it :p
[02:37] <tripelb> ilovefairuz: (you've been on a long time, kudos to U)
[02:37] <chrOnik> ilovefairuz: pastebin.com/SFMMRxi0
[02:38] <ilovefairuz> tripelb: ha, i come around before going to bed
[02:38] <chrOnik> that looks okay right?
[02:38] <Xeon3D> erm how can I fix the maximum resolution that xrandr outputs?
[02:38] <thune3> Palm76: can I pm you with some /sys inquiry commands?
[02:38] <ilovefairuz> chrOnik: now: xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 20
[02:39] <Xeon3D> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1360 x 768 <- I get this, when I know that the LCD native res is 1680x1050
[02:39] <tesuji> ilovefairuz, something is writing often and iotop doesn't record what it is
[02:40] <ilovefairuz> tesuji: try, iotop -oPa
[02:40] <chrOnik> ilovefairuz: do i have to reboot?
[02:40] <chrOnik> for it to show with xrandr
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Xeon3D:  you do have the proper drivers installed for your video card/chipset? is this a dvi or vga monitor setup>
[02:41] <ilovefairuz> chrOnik: not sure, restart X? log out and back in
[02:41] <chrOnik> roger, brb
[02:41] <rblst> can i convert mozilla thunderbird eml files into xml/html/pdf in ubuntu?
[02:41] <[jfcaron]> Is "uvcvideo" a package I can install with Synaptic, or is it built into the kernel?
[02:42] <ilovefairuz> rblst: you can "print" to a pdf file
[02:43] <ilovefairuz> [jfcaron]: if by that you mean the driver, yes it's included with the kernel
[02:43] <chr0nik> ilovefairuz: Nah its not showing :/ want me to post output of ?
[02:43] <ilovefairuz> [jfcaron]: 'lshw' to see what drivers in use
[02:43] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: ok post
[02:43] <chr0nik> sorry, what was the command again?
[02:44] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: xrandr
[02:44] <rblst> ilovefairuz, yes, but i want bulk conversion
[02:44] <[jfcaron]> ilovefairuz: Ah, I think I fixed some stuff.  My webcam normally doesn't work.  It's recognized as a USB device, but nothing shows up in /dev/video*.  If I do sudo modprobe uvcvideo, all of a sudden it works (and is mounted at /dev/video0).  Any idea why it's not doing it automatically?
[02:44] <ilovefairuz> rblst: no option in thundebird to print one than one message?
[02:44] <chr0nik> ilovefairuz: yeh, the other one? the longer one >.<
[02:44] <chr0nik> xrandr output is the same, no new 1920x1080
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> [jfcaron]:  you could always set the module to be autoloaded.
[02:45] <chr0nik> ilovefairuz:  here anyway //pastebin.com/p0QejH27
[02:45] <ilovefairuz> [jfcaron]: add it to /etc/modules and it will be loaded automatically
[02:46] <[jfcaron]> ilovefairuz: Are there user-specific kernel settings?  I installed 10.04 with a fresh /, but my /home was on a different partition and I just installed "on top" of that.  Could it be my old settings that are screwing it up?
[02:47] <tripelb> Trying to install Ubuntu.  (sigh) I want to install ubuntu on my HD (sata new formatted recognized.by.the.gui), Install does not see it. Nautilus sees it. (thanks for the help)
[02:47] <rblst> ilovefairuz, if i select more than one message to print, only the last message will be printed
[02:47] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: it seems the changes have to be redone after X startup each time (or naturally added to xorg.conf) ..
[02:48] <ilovefairuz> rblst: ask the thunderbird guys
[02:48] <chr0nik> mmmh
[02:49] <tripelb> It seems like it should be easy to start ubuntu on a new hard drive. when I asked how long they said 15 mins. I've been at this all day today.
[02:49] <rblst> ilovefairuz, thanks for the answers
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  check how its currently formated and partitioned.. you may want to  delete all the partitions on it. and let the installer parittion it. or partition it via gparted how you want. befor you start the installer
[02:49] <rblst> ilovefairuz, the tbird channel is virtually dead
[02:50] <Xeon3D> Dr_Willis, Yes do I have proper drivers installed for my graphics. Chipset is intel G41, Graphics is Nvidia GT220 VGA monitor setup
[02:50] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution .. redo both commands, i think there's a third needed.. --addmode
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? If you are using a CD have you checked it for defects and did you burn the CD slowly?
[02:50] <chr0nik> okay, ty
[02:50] <Xeon3D> Dr_Willis, Nvidia drivers detect my LCD (Asus VW223b) as a CRT-0
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Xeon3D: are you using the VGA outut on your graphics card?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Xeon3D:  I was thinking the xrandr stuff had some issues with the nvidia drivers.. but i cant even recall where i read that at. I rarely use xrandr these days
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Xeon3D: or the white connector?
[02:51] <Xeon3D> ActionParsnip, using the DVI thru a DVI-VGA adaptor (but it works the same on the vga port)
[02:51] <Xeon3D> My monitor's EDID is shot.
[02:51] <ilovefairuz> tripelb: thought it's a rather vague advice but I recall tinkering with sata settings in BIOS fixing this problem
[02:52] <Xeon3D> ActionParsnip, I have to custom add the resolutions as well in Windows 7 and OS X
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Xeon3D: thats why then, if you use the vga it will be seen as a CRT, its not an issue though
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Xeon3D: windows runs on mac hardware? nice
[02:52] <Xeon3D> ActionParsnip, lol it's not Mac Hardware.
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> Xeon3D: then you are running illegal software
[02:53] <Xeon3D> I'm running Ubuntu. :)
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> Xeon3D: the mac license states it can only be ran on mac hardware
[02:54] <ilovefairuz> Xeon3D: check this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[02:55] <chr0nik> ilovefairuz:
[02:56] <chr0nik> i did cvt 1920x1080 amd then xrandr --newmode "commandline"
[02:56] <Xeon3D> ActionParsnip, sue me. I'm here since I'm having ubuntu issues. If I'd want to speak about my OS X install I'd go somewhere else.
[02:56] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: ?
[02:56] <chr0nik> and its showing 1920x1080 with xrandr, just with svideo?
[02:56] <tripelb> Trying to install Ubuntu.  (all day) I want to install ubuntu on my HD (sata new formatted recognized.by.the.gui), Install does not see it. but Nautilus sees it.
[02:56] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: pastebin
[02:56] <chr0nik> /pastebin.com/xET5TxYJ
[02:56] <chr0nik> ilovefairuz: ^^
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> Xeon3D: just advising that broadcasting illegal activity may not be the smartest idea
[02:57] <chr0nik> thanks
[02:57] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: don't strip http://
[02:57] <chr0nik> oh okay
[02:57] <crom>  Hi...I'm trying to "hciconfig -a hci0 up" and I get the error "Can't init device hci0: Unknown error 132 (132)"     any idea?
[02:57] <mom> how come when i create a text file with 2 spaces it is 3 bytes?  is the third EOF or something?
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> mom: i'd say so
[02:58] <Xeon3D> ActionParsnip, get your facts straight. Breaking an EULA might not be legally enforceable everywhere...
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> Xeon3D: still not smart to broadcast
[02:59] <tesuji> ilovefairuz, ok, i ran iotop with -oPab with and without X running, and whatever it is happens only with X - but I don't know what.  and it's only writing in ~ dir
[02:59] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: pastebin the commands and their output
[02:59] <chr0nik> sorry what command?
[02:59] <chr0nik> i think i lagged :/
[02:59] <owen1> what's the app name for 'Startup Disk Creator'
[02:59] <owen1> ?
[03:00] <Master_Queefer> hello all
[03:00] <owen1> usb-creator didn't work for me
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> owen1: if you run: alacarte   you can look at the command executed
[03:00] <Master_Queefer> is there a package that configures, and installs metasploit
[03:00] <Master_Queefer> in ubuntu
[03:00] <ilovefairuz> tesuji: -b won't give you an idea of system activity, omit it and just watch for a while
[03:00] <Master_Queefer> like in Backtrack linux?
[03:00] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: the two commands that added the new mode
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> Master_Queefer: ease up on the enter key dude, you can write lengthy hunks of text, saves scrolling the channel
[03:00] <chr0nik> okay
[03:01] <ilovefairuz> Master_Queefer: apt-cache search <whatever>
[03:01] <Master_Queefer> backtrack linux is cool
[03:01] <Master_Queefer> its like a pen test distro or something
[03:01] <ilovefairuz> !enter | Master_Queefer
[03:01] <Xeon3D> ActionParsnip, thanks for the advice, but that kind of advice was not asked for.
[03:02] <ilovefairuz> Xeon3D: relax mate it's only a passing remark
[03:02] <Oer> backtrack / metasploit is not supported in this support channel, i believe.
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> Xeon3D: illegal activities are not condoned here, just covering the base, thats all
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> Master_Queefer: http://www.metasploit.com/redmine/projects/framework/wiki/Install_Ubuntu
[03:02] <Master_Queefer> wow, i sense some derivatives of sodom & gomorah here
[03:02] <Master_Queefer> hoe-moez :)
[03:02] <Master_Queefer> thanks
[03:03] <Xeon3D> ActionParsnip, whatever.
[03:03] <Master_Queefer> Are there any gay linux users here too? Im gay, and my boyfriend loves fisting my anus, but its hot when I shit liquid diarrhea on his fist when we do that
[03:03] <Master_Queefer> it lubes up the ass that way, diarea = natural lube
[03:03] <mlmg317-himts> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount my Western Digital My Book (external hard drive) - when Ubuntu does not seem to be detecting it via USB?  It worked once before ...
[03:04] <Oer> !mount
[03:04] <Xeon3D> ilovefairuz, thanks for the page, been reading it before but it wasn't of much help.
[03:04] <ilovefairuz> Oer: nah, they have strange USB IDs and are somehow problematic
[03:05] <chong> mlmg317-himts: does it have external power
[03:05] <ilovefairuz> Xeon3D: pastebin the output of xrandr
[03:05] <ilovefairuz> mlmg317-himts: please join #ubuntu-bugs and file a report
[03:06] <crom> Hi...I'm trying to "hciconfig -a hci0 up" and I get the error "Can't init device hci0: Unknown error 132 (132)"     any idea?
[03:06] <mlmg317-himts> chong: Yes.
[03:06] <econdudeawesome> !#ubuntu-bugs
[03:06] <HolyTony> any way to have volume control image like this: http://www.intowindows.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3rvxtoolforWindows74.jpg
[03:06] <crom> thanks
[03:06] <psycho_oreos> crom, check dmesg for reasons
[03:06] <Oer> mlmg317-himts, is your WD mybook attached direct to your pc, or do you use a hub ?
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> crom: try it with sudo
[03:07] <nul> HolyTony: well programmatically it's cake.. but does one exist, I dunno =/
[03:07] <chong> mlmg317-himts: check dmesg info to see whether it's detected as usb mass storage.
[03:07] <mlmg317-himts> Oer: It is currently attached to my IBM laptop via USB ...
[03:07] <mlmg317-himts> chong: OK.  I'll try that ...
[03:07] <chr0nik> ilovefairuz: , http://pastebin.com/fv0Ny6UD
[03:07] <ilovefairuz> crom: do you have latest kernel? what version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:08] <chr0nik> i didnt get that error, the first time around with xrandr --newmode
[03:09] <mlmg317-himts> chong: so when I enter in "dmesg" - how do I tell whether it's detected as usb mass storage?
[03:09] <Guest37872> what does apply these to cshare and smoke subdirs? http://imaginary-project.net/wiki/building_qyoto_for_windows
[03:09] <HolyTony> anyone know how to get a mac style volume control on ubuntu? http://www.intowindows.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3rvxtoolforWindows74.jpg
[03:10] <xangua> HolyTony: install a mac style icon theme¿¿
[03:10] <jedi06> what the hell does "apply these" mean?
[03:10] <HolyTony> trying to find it :(
[03:10] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: xrandr --delmode "1920x1080_60.00"
[03:10] <mlmg317-himts> Oer: Yeah - it's directly attached to my computer via USB.  What were your thoughts?
[03:10] <psycho_oreos> !private| crom
[03:11] <Oer> mlmg317-himts, power issue
[03:11] <tripelb>                                                        
[03:11] <tripelb> gotta go now...
[03:11] <user5> user5
[03:11] <chr0nik> ilovefairuz: i'm going to post output of that command
[03:11] <keith4141> Hey guys.  I'm running ubuntu 10.04 with gnome.  is it possible to configure the gnome panels to not show on a specific workspace?.
[03:11] <chr0nik> i dont think its right, 1sec
[03:11] <SCD[Eire]> K I'd like some help. I want a script that works on Ubuntu that would extract certain data from web site source code. Such as extracting the names on certain links and printing them to a file. Any ideas?
[03:11] <ChrisBuchholz> I about to install ubuntu on my MacBook pro. I have os x installed ln an external harddrive and want to only have ubuntu on my macbook pro, but how do i get EFI to boot grub upon startup? I have looked at grub2/grub efi, but it seems to be for dualboot and such, or and i totally wrong about this?
[03:12] <mlmg317-himts> Oer: OK.  Because it is currently plugged in ...
[03:12] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: you can install pastebinit and append to the end of commands: | pastebinit -
[03:13] <chr0nik> sounds nice, thanks.. i'v just been messing so much with fluxbox/openbox and getting used to everything
[03:13] <chr0nik> just this video card is breaking me lol
[03:13] <ilovefairuz> SCD[Eire]: what you're referring to is called Web scrapping and it very much depends on what you're trying to do, there are some generic web crawlers that act like search engines
[03:13] <adelcampo> how do I get libvisual-projectm to show up in rhythm box?
[03:13] <chr0nik> mpd is awesome ! im glad i found out about that
[03:14] <chr0nik> much easier to manage your music :p
[03:14] <SCD[Eire]> ilovefairuz, I meant if you were using a specific page. So you would copy and paste the source into the script and it'd do the rest
[03:15] <ilovefairuz> SCD[Eire]: it's what *extactly* it is supposed to do it what makes a difference, i'd also suggest looking into greasemonkey scripts since they are so powerful for doing this kind of stuff
[03:15] <chr0nik> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/DLLVTBi8
[03:16] <chr0nik> i did run that command,  a Few times before i did that paste..
[03:16] <SCD[Eire]> ilovefairuz, found my answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671367
[03:16] <SCD[Eire]> Didn't know what to look for until you said web scrapper. Thanks :)
[03:17] <adelcampo> I installed libprojectm with libvisual-projectm and I can't see it as an option in Rhythm box. anyone have any luck with this?
[03:17] <ilovefairuz> SCD[Eire]: well that's kind of web scrapping yeah but hey if it works then great
[03:18] <Peter-C|Laptop> 2 thinks - Can I get ubuntu to auto connect to a wifi point and can I have it still run stuff while locked?
[03:18] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: it requires the full mode line you used to make new mode
[03:19] <ilovefairuz> Peter-C|Laptop: 1) it will autoconnect by default, 2) yes
[03:19] <chr0nik> omg this seems so easy but im clueless, lol
[03:19] <chr0nik> the modeline i got from the cvt command yh?
[03:20] <Peter-C|Laptop> ilovefairuz, how? also it doesn't connect to my LAN - os that because it is not secured?
[03:21] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: it's just that the command line syntax is rather verbose, i'm looking for GUIs, try sudo apt-get install arandr
[03:21] <crom>  Hi...I'm trying to "hciconfig -a hci0 up" and I get the error "Can't init device hci0: Unknown error 132 (132)"     any idea?
[03:21] <chr0nik> i also have lxrandr?
[03:21] <crom> ??
[03:21] <ilovefairuz> Peter-C|Laptop: are you using network manager? and it should autoconnect by default, right-click and select edit connections
[03:22] <chr0nik> that game with this distro
[03:22] <chr0nik> came*
[03:23] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: doesn't seem to support adding custom modes
[03:23] <chr0nik> xrandr is running its gui right?
[03:23] <blackarray> Ubuntu Programming question to anyone who may have any ideas. I'm writing a program and I'm looking to include my own sort of Status Notifications as is seen in 10.04 with Gwibber, Empathy, ETC. Anyone know where I could go to find out more about how that is done?
[03:23] <chr0nik> what arandr?
[03:23] <a|3x> hi
[03:23] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: [x|a|l|x] are all fronts to RandR, an Xorg extension
[03:23] <chr0nik> what one doesnt support adding custom modes
[03:23] <nul> is it possible to take 2 mounted partitions and fake jbod them?
[03:23] <ilovefairuz> !hi | a|3x
[03:23] <trism> blackarray: libnotify
[03:24] <a|3x> i have this problem, when i boot without monitor it doesn't start x, how could i fix it?
[03:24] <chr0nik> ic ..
[03:24] <Peter-C> ilovefairuz thansk
[03:24] <Peter-C> *thanks
[03:24] <Peter-C> now how do I make sure it stays on while locked?
[03:24] <sync3times> a|3x, nvidia?
[03:24] <chr0nik> a|3x: plug the monitor in
[03:24] <fabi> hallo welt
[03:24] <a|3x> sync2times, not sure
[03:24] <ilovefairuz> Peter-C: system > preferences > power management
[03:24] <trism> blackarray: and/or libindicate if you mean the notifications in the indicator applet
[03:24] <chr0nik> make sure it , will boot without it then reboot unplug it :D
[03:24] <a|3x> chr0nik, i don't want to
[03:25] <sync3times> a|3x,   cat /proc/drivers/nvidia/cards/0
[03:25] <klappi> nul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS
[03:25] <blackarray> trism: thanks, I'll start there
[03:25] <nul> IF you have an nvidia video card, the easiest way: 1) nvidia-xconfig, 2) google your monitors horizontal and vertical min-to-maximums (eg 30-160khz), write em down, 3) edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find your monitor, where it autodetected the horizontal and vertical, pop in real values.. log off, log back in
[03:25] <nul> klappi: ty
[03:25] <sync3times> a|3x, sorry   /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0
[03:25] <nul> klappi: does this work for non-ext3 etc?
[03:25] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: so try arandr
[03:26] <Peter-C> thanks!
[03:26] <chr0nik> im looking at it now, cant seem to find add on the gui menus
[03:26] <klappi> nul: dont know read the docs
[03:26] <nul> chr0nik: read what I said
[03:26] <nul> chr0nik: it DOES work
[03:26] <nul> only prob is adding custom modes after
[03:26] <nul> but it depends how custom
[03:26] <a|3x> sync2times, GeForce 7350 LE
[03:26] <nul> a
[03:26] <jedi06> so i'm trying to apply a patch (step 2) how do i do it? patch csharp csharp.patch? http://imaginary-project.net/wiki/building_qyoto_for_window
[03:26] <chr0nik> about the nvidia nul?
[03:26] <nul> what mode are you talking about a|3x?
[03:26] <nul> chr0nik: yeah
[03:26] <chr0nik> this is a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[03:26] <a|3x> nul, mode?
[03:27] <nul> a|3x: your problem is adding a custom mode right? what mode do you need?
[03:27] <sync3times> a|3x, ok,   you have nvidia,  do you have a  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:27] <chr0nik> just need 1920x1080 :/ 16:10? ;P
[03:27] <nul> yeah that's easy
[03:27] <a|3x> nul, no, i need it to start x when monitor is not plugged in
[03:27] <nul> that will work immediately as soon as you change horizontal/vertical refresh rates in xorg
[03:27] <nul> oh I see
[03:27] <nul> so nothing to do with custom mode, k
[03:27] <nul> chr0nik: is that your problem though?
[03:27] <chr0nik> yes
[03:27] <nul> k
[03:28] <chr0nik> where is org located?
[03:28] <nul> can you pastebin me your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:28] <chr0nik> usr/x11?
[03:28] <nul> I may be able to fix it immediately
[03:28] <hiku> chr0nik: 16:9
[03:28] <chr0nik> yeh sure, sec
[03:28] <keith4141> Does anyone know if its possible to configure gnome panels to not show on a specific workspace?. eg always show the panels on workspace one, but not on workspace 2.  So in the end I would have panels configured per workspace?
[03:28] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: no "new' button on toolbar?
[03:29] <chr0nik> nul: http://pastebin.com/Y361eLK6
[03:29] <sync3times> a|3x, its going to take some research on your part,  but if you can use the MetaModes Option and fool with EDID options, you may be able to force the card to startup in the absence of a monitor.
[03:29] <chr0nik> it seems to be in there?
[03:29] <chr0nik> eh wtf will it work?
[03:29] <nul> chr0nik: awesome, this should take 2 seconds
[03:29] <sync3times> a
[03:29] <nul> what's your monitor name?
[03:29] <chr0nik> prolite iiyama
[03:29] <nul> like brand etc
[03:30] <a|3x> sync2times, no, i don't have that file
[03:30] <sync3times> a|3x, nvidia has lot of options documented in /usr/share/doc/NVI*
[03:30] <chr0nik> e2407hdsd
[03:30] <nul> k sec
[03:30] <sync3times> a|3x,  you dont have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:30] <a|3x> sync2times, no
[03:30] <theredundant> hi guys, uber noob here, how do i install unyaffs?
[03:30] <theredundant> shows me 3 files at site
[03:30] <chr0nik> did u open it with sudo a|3x ?
[03:30] <theredundant> and ive no idea which to choose or how to install
[03:31] <chr0nik> mine was empty untill i did "sudo"
[03:31] <sync3times> a|3x,  you might try running nvidia-settings and see if it will create one for you
[03:31] <nul> chr0nik: reload it
[03:31] <a|3x> chr0nik,  sudo su
[03:31] <nul> chr0nik: copy changes
[03:31] <nul> HorizSync and VertRefresh is what you need
[03:31] <nul> then logout, log in
[03:31] <sync3times> a|3x, you need a xorg.conf file to put in the extra stuff to override edid detection and stuff
[03:31] <nul> it should work in theory
[03:31] <chr0nik> so that in pastebin looks good?
[03:32] <chr0nik> no need to change anything?
[03:32] <nul> chr0nik: can you see my pastebin changes?
[03:32] <nul> I made changes
[03:32] <chr0nik> ah sorry 1sec
[03:32] <a|3x> sync2times, ran nvidia-xconfig and it was created
[03:32] <pharasoth> im using the nvidia driver in ubuntu 8.04. in windowed opengl apps there is this graphical glitch around my cursor, its not there in fullscreen apps that offer their own cursor. How can i fix this?
[03:32] <nul> chr0nik: ok anyway edit the file, where it says Horiz change it to 31-80, and Vert 56-75
[03:32] <nul> can you do that chr0nik
[03:32] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: nevermind arandr, doesn't support adding modes
[03:33] <nul> easiest way to fix bad monitor shit is changing the horiz/vert refresh limitations set in the xorg.conf
[03:33] <sync3times> a|3x, good.   look at the nvidia documentation  in /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA-xxxxx  to see about overriding EDID and using MetaModes
[03:33] <nul> it works every time
[03:33] <chr0nik> lol nul can u upload it to fresh pastebin? ;/
[03:33] <chr0nik> its not showing for me..
[03:33] <nul> chr0nik: k
[03:33] <IdleOne> !language | nul
[03:33] <chr0nik> or im to stoned to tell them apart :/
[03:33] <nul> IdleOne: okay, should I say the c version of that instead? I've heard its pg13 ;p
[03:33] <Poker>  hi , have problem , i use xchat irc client and i want to remove ~ from the ip for example  ~Steam@94.129.142.136
[03:33] <a|3x> sync2times, ok, thanks
[03:34] <nul> chr0nik: on the pastebin page, what do you see under HorizSync?
[03:34] <nul> chr0nik: original one, after a refresh
[03:34] <nul> if it says 31-80, copy the entire thing
[03:34] <IdleOne> nul: keep the language clean please. If you need a rating I suggest you keep it G rated.
[03:34] <dodecanesand> linux has only 0.3 percent market share? why?
[03:35] <bazhang> !ot > dodecanesand
[03:35] <nul> IdleOne: understood, but I have seen forums that don't like s*** but don't mind c*** that's why I am asking.
[03:35] <theredundant> anyone?
[03:35] <dodecanesand> !ot > bazhang
[03:35] <chr0nik> 28-72
[03:35] <nul> chr0nik: just change it by hand to 31-80
[03:35] <nul> chr0nik: then under that 56-75
[03:35] <chr0nik> oh under it?
[03:35] <chr0nik> vertrefresh?
[03:35] <chr0nik> 43-60?
[03:36] <nul> chr0nik: HorizSync       31-80, VertRefresh     56-75
[03:36] <IdleOne> nul: msking with *** is still bad language. let's agree that I am right and you will follow channels rules.
[03:36] <ilovefairuz> theredundant: http://code.google.com/p/unyaffs/downloads/detail?name=unyaffs&can=2&q= is a compiled binary, make a 'bin' at home and put it there
[03:36] <IdleOne> masking*
[03:36] <Poker>  hi , have problem , i use xchat irc client and i want to remove ~ from the ip for example  ~Steam@94.129.142.136
[03:36] <chr0nik> l,a
[03:36] <chr0nik> okay so edit them in config
[03:36] <nul> IdleOne: it wasn't for the purpose of swearing, it was for the purpose of asking a question actually.
[03:36] <theredundant> ilovefairuz; whats the step after?
[03:36] <nul> on swearing*
[03:36] <ilovefairuz> theredundant: then open a terminal, chmod +x ~/bin/unyaffs
[03:36] <nul> okay anyhow gotcha
[03:36] <IdleOne> Thank you.
[03:36] <xangua> Poker: get a cloak, ask fot it in #freenode
[03:36] <ilovefairuz> theredundant: then to use it just type: unyaffs
[03:36] <nul> chr0nik: change to that.. save it, log off, log on
[03:37] <theredundant> thank you :)
[03:37] <chr0nik> ok brb thanks nul
[03:37] <chr0nik> and thanks ilovefairuz
[03:37] <chr0nik> brb
[03:38] <nul> hopefully chr0nik comes back in 2 seconds with his resolution working.. I'm hoping.
[03:38] <nul> should work
[03:39] <ilovefairuz> it's amazing how there isn't a randr gui with support for new modes
[03:39] <pharasoth> can someone please help, there is this box around my cursor where my graphics are glitched up in opengl applications. im using the nvidia 71.86 driver in ubuntu 8.04lts
[03:40] <nul> ilovefairuz: I find the support for monitors really weak in ubuntu and possibly all of linux..
[03:40] <nul> chr0nik: so does it work?
[03:40] <chr0nik> nul: it didnt seem to work? ;/
[03:40] <nul> damn
[03:40] <nul> oh chr0nik
[03:40] <nul> go to your monitors now
[03:40] <nul> see if you can change it
[03:40] <chr0nik> yeh?
[03:40] <FloodBot2> nul: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <chr0nik> already did not there ;/
[03:40] <nul> chr0nik: damn..
[03:40] <chr0nik> man my last install.. i just install some drivers rebooted few times
[03:40] <chr0nik> and 1920x1080 popped up :/
[03:41] <Taev> hey guys my apache2 webserver is down and I can't figure out why
[03:41] <nul> chr0nik: yeah.  Hey, are you using a VGA cable this time, and a DVI cable previously?
[03:41] <Taev> its not starting at boot
[03:41] <sacarlson> I have been trying some new kernels like 2.6.33.29-realtime-pae I change the boot with startup-manager and at boot at a point the screen with text flashes then ends with a text login.  I can't get X to start.
[03:41] <chr0nik> its dvi now
[03:41] <chr0nik> but i had vga before
[03:41] <chr0nik> lol i installed this os on a p4 1gig rams
[03:41] <nul> I would think DVI would just instantly work.. but you could try switching it to VGA and see if it works
[03:41] <chr0nik> and then put it quadcore
[03:42] <nul> although that's counter-intuitive advice ;)
[03:42] <nul> hmm
[03:42] <sacarlson> Taev:  what do you see when you #/etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:42] <sync3times> sacarlson,  if you login with text,  what happens when you run  xinit
[03:42] <ilovefairuz> Taev: check the logs
[03:42] <nul> chr0nik: DVI should just autodetect.. VGA has issues with that, that's why we have issues.. but on DVI, it shouldn't happen.
[03:42] <chr0nik> lol yh. im sick of looking on google so i came here
[03:42] <nul> yea
[03:43] <sacarlson> sync3times: the text flashes again like it tries a few settings then stops back in text
[03:43] <Taev> now its working
[03:43] <chr0nik> i am on crunchbang btw nul :/ if that helps
[03:43] <sync3times> sacarlson, what are the error messeages?
[03:43] <Taev> djs@paddy-djs:~/eggdrop$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start  * Starting web server apache2     apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[03:43] <xangua> !crunchbang | chr0nik
[03:44] <Taev> thats it, and its running, so why did it fail to start at boot twice?
[03:44] <sync3times> sacarlson,  you can also look in /var/log/X* for error messages
[03:44] <ilovefairuz> Taev: well check the logs to know why, but this hostname error message is negligible
[03:44] <sacarlson>  sync3times:   I don't remember seeing any even in /var/log/syslog I don't see any error maybe I looked at the wrong log
[03:44] <chr0nik> xangua: its ubuntu i did it myself.
[03:44] <Taev> i checked syslog
[03:45] <Taev> i didn't see anything
[03:45] <sync3times> sacarlson, X has its own log file
[03:45] <Taev> what log should i check?
[03:45] <sync3times> sacarlson, you can also just type  X   and see the errors for yourself
[03:45] <ilovefairuz> Taev: apache has a folder in /var/log
[03:46] <ilovefairuz> Taev: try /var/log/apache2/error.log
[03:46] <sikilpaake> hey guys
[03:47] <gz0> Can someone explain how to set tx-power for an AR5001 card to 30dbm (default is 20)
[03:47] <Taev> Im getting a lot of "[Sat Aug 07 22:43:14 2010] [error] mod_log_sql: insufficient configuration info to establish database link
[03:47] <Taev> [Sat Aug 07 22:43:14 2010] [error] mod_log_sql: child spawned but unable to open database link"
[03:47] <sikilpaake> i need to run x through ssh
[03:47] <ilovefairuz> !hi | sikilpaake
[03:47] <sacarlson> sync3times:  I just found some Xorg.0.log  but I think thats from this boot.  this error hapened yestarday
[03:47] <sikilpaake> but i'm running a headless box and sudo asks me for something
[03:47] <gz0> I've tried using iw and iwconfig, but i get an error SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[03:47] <Taev> infact theres pages of those errors
[03:47] <Taev> what does that mean?
[03:48] <ilovefairuz> Taev: have you configured it to push logs to a mysql database?
[03:48] <makson> dudessss i screwed up i was messing with chrooted env and i deleted my home directory in real env by mistake... is there any way to fix this/
[03:48] <Taev> umm no that I know, I have gallery2 and b2evolution they both required mysql databases
[03:48] <Taev> i created them as per the instructions
[03:48] <Taev> thats all i ever did with mysql
[03:48] <bazhang> !undelete > makson
[03:49] <ilovefairuz> Taev: these are two different things, mod_log_mysql is different from the PHP mysql client functions
[03:49] <alex87> anyone know why DVDs and CDs fail to copy in ubuntu 10.04 (and other recent linuxes)?
[03:49] <Taev> well what could cause that error?
[03:49] <Taev> I know absolutely nothing about MySQL
[03:50] <ilovefairuz> Taev: apache is somehow trying to put its log messages into a mysql database but it can't access it (perhaps because it starts before mysql or that mysql is not installed or not properly configured)
[03:52] <vict> Hey All. I'm trying to run an install script using sudo... and it says "! You have to be root to run this script"
[03:52] <sacarlson>  alex87: I guess your dvd burner lazer is dieing.  after a point seems mine fail to burn disks.  try to use the longer burn times
[03:52] <Taev> how do I fix this?
[03:52] <vhugox> I have a problem on Ubuntu 9.10. My microphone doesn't work with my Siragon Laptop. I've been trying a lot of suggestions that i found on google, but it doesn't work.
[03:53] <pharasoth> can someone please help, there is this box around my cursor where my graphics are glitched up in opengl applications. im using the nvidia 71.86 driver in ubuntu 8.04lts. you can see it here http://imagebin.ca/view/4eO0iE.html
[03:53] <ilovefairuz> Taev: pastebin  /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[03:53] <ilovefairuz> !paste | Taev
[03:53] <nul> Generally speaking, is it better to reinstall on a new ver of ubuntu, or can you upgrade your distribution safely?
[03:54] <nul> is it safe / will stuff break is my question
[03:54] <psycho_oreos> reinstall to install a new version
[03:54] <Taev> http://pastebin.com/i1FhaHZ4
[03:54] <Taev> there /etc/apache2/apache.conf
[03:54] <Taev> er apache2.conf sorry.
[03:54] <sikilpaake> is there a way to be able to launch gparted from terminal without doing a sudo?
[03:55] <alex87> sacarlson, i think it's a bigger issue, both dvd and cds fail to read, on multiple machines (all running recent version of linux)
[03:55] <psycho_oreos> sikilpaake, gksu
[03:55] <Taev> but what I can't figure out is why Apache failed to start at boot time twice in a row
[03:55] <sacarlson> nul: It seems if you upgrade you need to go only one step at a time like 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades.  I tried to jump from 8.04 to 10.04 and I had problems.
[03:55] <Taev> I've had this web server running for 2 years and thats never happened and I made no updates or changes to config before this happened
[03:55] <sikilpaake> psycho_oreos: gksu? hmm..
[03:55] <nul> sacarlson: interesting
[03:55] <vhugox> Hi there!. I have a problem on Ubuntu 9.10. My microphone doesn't work with my Siragon Laptop. I've been trying a lot of suggestions that i found on google, but it doesn't work.
[03:56] <psycho_oreos> sikilpaake, it'll ask your password as you normally would in sudo but without terminal
[03:56] <sikilpaake> damn.. ok
[03:56] <sacarlson> nul:  oh part of my problems may of been caused by me going outside ubuntu distobution
[03:56] <ilovefairuz> Taev: pastebin: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[03:56] <psycho_oreos> sikilpaake, if you want to not make sudo ask for password, you need to edit sudoers file and append NOPASSWD
[03:56] <nul> sacarlson: yeah that seems likely to ;)
[03:56] <sikilpaake> psycho_oreos: thanks, dude... this is what i'm trying to do ---> ssh -X -C -c blowfish verbatim@192.168.1.103 "gksu gnome"
[03:57] <psycho_oreos> sikilpaake, hmm ok no worries
[03:57] <sikilpaake> psycho_oreos: i just need sudo to not ask password for gparted, though
[03:57] <Taev> http://pastebin.com/DB6YFY4i
[03:58] <psycho_oreos> sikilpaake, which is what I said, edit the sudoers file.. you need to execute via visudo
[03:58] <hylian> anyone know if there is a distro that does all it can to stay small like dsl, puppy or wolvix, but then can become as robust as say, ubuntu?
[03:58] <sikilpaake> psycho_oreos: but what do i add there, though?
[03:58] <ilovefairuz> Taev: sudo rm ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/log_sql.load; sudo rm ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/log_sql_mysql.load;
[03:58] <psycho_oreos> sikilpaake, NOPASSWD.. there are some examples of that scattered all over the net
[03:59] <xangua> !lubuntu | hylian
[03:59] <Taev> you want me to delete it?
[03:59] <sikilpaake> psycho_oreos: werd, thanks a lot
[03:59] <Taev> will that damage my install?
[03:59] <ilovefairuz> Taev: sorry just rm, not rm ls
[03:59] <psycho_oreos> sikilpaake, no worries
[03:59] <ilovefairuz> Taev: no these are not the actual files, just symlinks, won't delete anything
[03:59] <hylian> xangua: thank you, i will take a look at that.
[03:59] <ilovefairuz> Taev: it will only deactivate the modules
[04:00] <sacarlson> sikilpaake: in visudo  you need to add a line for the account you want to use without passwords like: yourusername ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[04:00] <misteralexander> How do i find out if I'm running 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[04:00] <misteralexander> a simple command line trigger?
[04:00] <nul> actually uname could tell you
[04:00] <sikilpaake> sacarlson: i need only ONE program to be able to run without passwords.. not an entire user
[04:00] <Taev> ok its done
[04:01] <sacarlson> sikilpaake: ok google that but it can bee done
[04:01] <nul> misteralexander: uname -a
[04:01] <nul> then if theres "x86_64", yep
[04:01] <ilovefairuz> Taev: ok test
[04:01] <nul> err x86_64 == 64-bit
[04:01] <Taev> how?
[04:01] <fancybit> how can I login as root in a new ubuntu system?
[04:01] <ilovefairuz> Taev:  you said it doesn't start at boot, so reboot?
[04:01] <Taev> well you can use sudo, but if you really want to log in as root, run kuser and set a root password
[04:02] <Taev> that way you can su in, fancybit
[04:02] <misteralexander> nul: i ran that, and it confirms I'm running the 64-bit version, but my system only recognizes 3.2GB of my 4GB of RAM . . . why?
[04:02] <chr0nik> would ubuntu be fine to run from usb flash drive? "Not install" Run and use?
[04:02] <nul> misteralexander: onboard video is likely the reason
[04:02] <Taev> ok rebooting
[04:02] <sacarlson> sikilpaake: I used to have it setup so a single or group of users could use a group of admin commands but I forget how.
[04:02] <nul> misteralexander: but 3.2 is a lot of ram to give an IGP.. that is odd
[04:02] <nul> so maybe I'm wrong =/
[04:02] <sikilpaake> sacarlson: no prob ;) thanks
[04:02] <psycho_oreos> under wheel group
[04:02] <psycho_oreos> %wheel
[04:02] <misteralexander> nul: perhaps you are, but it gets me closer to a reason . . . THANKS!
[04:02] <fancybit> in fact, I want to install a software by a .bin file
[04:03] <fancybit> but ubuntu tells me I don't have the power
[04:03] <ilovefairuz> fancybit: bad idea! use a package
[04:03] <ilovefairuz> fancybit: what software?
[04:03] <fancybit> jdk
[04:03] <ilovefairuz> fancybit: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[04:03] <xangua> fancybit: jdk is in repositorioes
[04:03] <fancybit> thanks a lot~ XD
[04:04] <ilovefairuz> !usb | chr0nik
[04:05] <hylian> xangua: i was looking for something with a start size of around 200 meg. i am limited to 1 gig a month download, and don't want to eat half of it downloading a large distro, looks like the right direction though, thank you.
[04:05] <chr0nik> not from flash drive? onto the flash drive to run and use?
[04:05] <ilovefairuz> !software | fancybit
[04:05] <chr0nik> or will it be wayy to slow?
[04:06] <ilovefairuz> chr0nik: read second link
[04:06] <chr0nik> okay thaks
[04:06] <xibalba> hey has anyone worked with nProbe ?
[04:06] <stomp_stompclap> #redditdowntime
[04:06] <xibalba> got a simple question that is stumping me badly
[04:06] <xibalba> 07/Aug/2010 20:02:07 [util.c:1880] WARNING: Unable to locate template 'SIP_CALL_ID'. Discarded.
[04:06] <xibalba> where the heck does it call the templates from ?
[04:06] <sdondley> i'm using remote desktop viewer. I can move the remote desktop's mouse cursor but clicks and keyboard events don't register
[04:07] <sdondley> "allow others to control your desktop" is checked off
[04:07] <ilovefairuz> sdondley: check it on!
[04:08] <sdondley> it is checked on
[04:08] <sdondley> "checked off" = on
[04:08] <alex87> how can gnome mount my audio cd, but i can't dd the disc?
[04:08]  * Taev hugs ilovefairuz 
[04:08] <Taev> you da man!
[04:08] <Taev> or da woman
[04:08] <Taev> dont know which..
[04:08] <thune3> chr0nik: persistent or full install on usb can have lots of stalls due to the bad random write performance of usb flash drives.
[04:09] <ilovefairuz> Taev: man, and thank you.
[04:09] <Taev> so is it ok to delete old logs?
[04:10] <ilovefairuz> Taev: yes
[04:10] <chr0nik> i might try it thune3 with some "slim ubntu distro"
[04:10] <bastid_raZor> sdondley: from what i've read compiz doesn't play very well with vnc/remote desktop viewer. on the remote box turn compiz off by typing in terminal: metacity --replace   :see if this makes any difference.
[04:10] <Taev> ilovefairuz, I'd tell you why apache2 wasn't starting at boot, but you'd laugh.
[04:10] <sacarlson> Taev: there should be auto cron jobs that delete old logs automagicly out of the box
[04:11] <babyju> Anyone. I'm getting a segmentation fault whenever I try to start any processes on my system. I think I have a software raid failure. All the filesystem is in readonly mode. I only have ssh access to the system right now. Anyone know how I can force a reboot? shutdown and reboot command return a bus error.
[04:11] <klappi> thats the job of logrotate
[04:11] <sacarlson> Taev: you forgot to turn on the computer?
[04:11] <ilovefairuz> Taev: I suspect mysql starting after it not before, but tell.
[04:11] <Taev> Umm No.
[04:11] <Taev> Apparently Apache2 was disabled to start at boot under the services
[04:11] <Taev> I have no idea how that happened Since I don't recall doing it.
[04:12] <sdondley> bastid_raZor: thanks, will give it a shot
[04:13] <fancybit> how can I speed up the software pack downloading?
[04:13] <thune3> chr0nik: it's actually firefox that give the most headaches, it does disk cacheing by default, and it also does a bunch of osync writes to keep your history/bookmarks current.
[04:14] <ilovefairuz> fancybit: select a closer mirror in "Software Sources"
[04:14] <xangua> fancybit: or pay a better internet service
[04:14] <c4pt> hello i seem to be having a problem. i built a custom kernel from xen pvops sources. the problem seems to be now that i have enabled nouveau patches into the kernel image and built the kernel image + headers i cant seem to rebuild nouveau.ko in /usr/lib/modules/pvops.2.6 .......
[04:14] <c4pt> .....even though nouveau.ko is in /usr/lib/modules/generic-2.6
[04:14] <c4pt> because i didnt build nouveau.ko in make menuconfig as a module or into the kernel
[04:14] <sikilpaake> psycho_oreos: dude... much thanks to you
[04:15] <sikilpaake> psycho_oreos: it totally worked
[04:15] <sikilpaake> psycho_oreos: i owe you a hug
[04:15] <sikilpaake> psycho_oreos: thanks
[04:15] <psycho_oreos> sikilpaake, mmm -_- no worries
[04:15] <c4pt> is there a way i can just simply rebuild nouveau.ko for pvops.2.6 without having to recompile the entire kernel and rebuild?
[04:15] <ilovefairuz> babyju: http://linax.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/linux-force-reboot-and-shutdown/
[04:15] <RealOpty> i have a bad hdd that im gonna use. Id like to make the partition table setup so that the one partiton contains the good side and the other is bad side (bad blocks) oh and swap.
[04:16] <fancybit> does it supports multi-thread tech?
[04:16] <RealOpty> any suggestions on this ? :)
[04:16] <xibalba> no one here has any nprobe/ntop expierience?
[04:16] <xibalba> i'm suprised :(
[04:16] <ilovefairuz> RealOpty: you want to bury the swap in bad sectors? that sounds so wrong
[04:17] <sacarlson> c4pt: as far as I know as long as the source in a link hasn't changed it won't recompile that part unless you do a make clean
[04:17] <ubuntu> Hello. I have recently burned the latest version of Linux and I tried to boot from it. I got to the loading screen with the logo and the four progress red/white dots, but after that I got an error message that reads: "(process: 268): GLid - WARNING: ** getpwid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)"
[04:17] <ilovefairuz> !ot | xibalba
[04:17] <RealOpty> ilovefairuz, lol
[04:17] <RealOpty> ilovefairuz, i dont even care about having swap atcually.
[04:17] <c4pt> sacarlson, that seems to make sense all of a sudden i did an rm -rf linux-2.6 and then git checkout but not a make clean.
[04:18] <c4pt> sacarlson, it was odd because when i ran make (without menuconfig or oldconfig figuring the changes took effect it didnt even prompt me as usual)
[04:18] <ilovefairuz> RealOpty: then don't use it, and I recall a utility that mapped bad blocks graphically, but not sure of the name...
[04:18] <wombatguy> how do i find files by size and also list their sizes? I know find but I can't seem to get anything to work with exec that would help me accomplish this
[04:18] <wombatguy> i really just can't get exec to work
[04:18] <wombatguy> -exec i mean
[04:18] <sacarlson> c4pt: you might be able to just change the config enable the new stuf and compile. it will find the change and compile and link it
[04:18] <c4pt> sacarlson, so rm -rf linux-2.6/ then git checkout then cp -rf config then make clean? (should prompt me with a yes or no (single question) the way i have the config set as of current
[04:19] <ilovefairuz> wombatguy: do you append the last ';' ?
[04:19] <wombatguy> yea
[04:19] <ilovefairuz> wombatguy: paste command
[04:19] <RealOpty> ilovefairuz, cool at least theres a tool thats related.
[04:19] <wombatguy> can you paste a command to me because some of this has been cut and paste
[04:19] <wombatguy> ok
[04:19] <c4pt> sacarlson, as of current...it did a single yes or no when i ran make it didnt do it the second time after i didnt run make clean.
[04:19] <RealOpty> ilovefairuz, another Q
[04:19] <mmar> question regarding wine and firefox: I have office 2007 installed under wine. It will open both 2003 and 2007 files by default EXCEPT in firefox. In firefox, any 2003 file will open in openoffice while 2007 will open in wine/office. Anyone know where I should be starting to change the default behaviour of firefox with 2003 files to open wine/office 2007?
[04:19] <sacarlson>  c4pt:  I'm not an expert at git.  I normaly just make clean and do it all over.  I have lots of time
[04:20] <c4pt> sacarlson, so if i presently run make clean it will make the new options hopefully?
[04:20] <RealOpty> ilovefairuz, is it ok to run 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit machine?
[04:20] <wombatguy> find -iname '*.*' -size -5000k -exec -ls -k -s {\}\ \;
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> RealOpty:  that can work.
[04:20] <RealOpty> Dr_Willis, indeed
[04:20] <RealOpty> ok thanks
[04:20] <sacarlson> c4pt:  oh I'm not sure I think you might need to go into the config editor and turn it on also
[04:20] <c4pt> sacarlson, ok thanx i will give it another try if i am back in like 2 or 3 hours it will probably be because i cant see it in menuconfig or something.
[04:21] <wombatguy> i don't really understand -exec but even when i paste other examples it gives me the same errors with exec
[04:21] <c4pt> sacarlson, yeah but i am not sure what to enable to make nouveau show up in the options of make menuconfig
[04:21] <wombatguy> find: missing argument to `-exec
[04:21] <wombatguy> is that error
[04:21] <ubunt1> Hello. I have recently burned the latest version of Linux and I tried to boot from it. I got to the loading screen with the logo and the four progress red/white dots, but after that I got an error message that reads: "(process: 268): GLid - WARNING: ** getpwid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)"
[04:21] <reff67> make localmodconfig Since 2.6.32 kernel, a new feature allows you to update the configuration to only  	
[04:21] <reff67> 	compile modules that are actually used in your system
[04:21] <sacarlson> c4pt: nouveau is the for nvidia?
[04:22] <c4pt> sacarlson, yeah.
[04:22] <sacarlson> c4pt: I think I recall seeing nvidia support in menuconfig
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> wombatguy:  i think you need some quoteing around the exec argument..
[04:22] <reff67> Turn debugging information off  <--Ubuntu kernels build with debugging information on, which makes the resulting kernel modules (*.ko files) much larger than they would otherwise be.
[04:23] <wombatguy> that -ls should be ls
[04:23] <wombatguy> but still doesn't work
[04:23] <ilovefairuz> wombatguy: why escaping the space before \; ?
[04:24] <c4pt> brb
[04:24] <RealOpty> ilovefairuz, btw i what i was saying was have 3 partitions. good  | swap | bad
[04:25] <Jerad> i have a small form factor box from MSI built around the Intel 845GV chipset that keeps freezing at the "running dpkg" stage of install (at 85%). has anyone else run into such issues, or can help me to work around it?
[04:25] <picard1421> anybody familiar with pam face authentication im having a problem getting it to work on ubuntu 10.04
[04:25] <tensorpudding> face authentication?
[04:26] <rocode> Facial biometrics?
[04:26] <well_laid_lawn> Jerad: checked to see if it is a bad cd burn?
[04:26] <wombatguy> thanks guys
[04:26] <wombatguy> find -iname '*.*' -size +15000k -exec ls -k -s '{}' \;
[04:26] <wombatguy> that works
[04:26] <ilovefairuz> wombatguy:  find -iname '*.*' -size -5000k -ls
[04:26] <sacarlson> picard1421: pam face used for samba?
[04:26] <ilovefairuz> lol
[04:27] <Jerad> i did. the cd passes verification. the second burn passes verification as well.
[04:27] <Jerad> it fails at the same spot from a flashdrive.
[04:28] <picard1421> sacarlson no its used logging in
[04:28] <ubunt1> Is there a way to change resolution through the command line?
[04:28] <picard1421> like loggin into the comptuer
[04:29] <ilovefairuz> !resolution | ubunt 1
[04:29] <sacarlson> Jerad: maybe your one of the 100,000 people that are getting those counterfiet chinese flash drivers that say they have 4 gig but only have 500 meg
[04:30] <So_Confused> Greetings room. If I ssh into my Ubuntu laptop (for a web proxy) on port 8080, will that interfere with web browsing? I know that I should use a port that isn't being used, but isn't 8080 used for web browsing?
[04:30] <sacarlson> Jerad: oh and that's 100,001 now cause I got one a week ago
[04:31] <Jerad> i doubt it. i deal with kingston on a daily basis.
[04:31] <sacarlson> Jerad: there is a software test to check them but the one I ran was in windows.
[04:31] <sacarlson> Jerad: well here in thailand kingston is the number one counterfit flash drive
[04:31] <alex87> anyone have any ideas why all my ubuntu 10.04 machines can't read cds or dvds properly? (gvfs will mount the audio cd, but i can't copy the disc, or dd it)
[04:32] <ilovefairuz> So_Confused: ssh uses port 22
[04:32] <linziyan> there is no "module"  sections   in  my xorg.conf      i  want to add "dbe" to the "module"section    ....anyone who  can solve my  problems?   many  thanks....
[04:32] <ilovefairuz> So_Confused: "web browsing" doesn't bind to a port, a proxy server does, but browsing itself doesn't
[04:33] <So_Confused> ilovefairuz: Understood... but port 22 is blocked by starbucks and other hotspots. So I found a tutorial on how to change the default listening port, and using putty is easy enough to specify a port...
[04:33] <bastid_raZor> So_Confused: you would have to have ssh listening on a specific port before you can connect to the box.
[04:33] <So_Confused> ilovefairuz: kk... that's what I was hoping for.
[04:33] <Jerad> seeing as i have had 29.7GB of raw video on this drive at one point, and that all fed well into a frame server for post-processing i will have to eliminate the flash drive as a problem.
[04:33] <So_Confused> bastid_raZor: ty... now I need a way to test my port change.
[04:34] <ilovefairuz> So_Confused: if you run another server that tries to use the same port, they will conflict
[04:34] <So_Confused> ilovefairuz: kk... just this one server.
[04:34] <Nebulosa> linziyan: Section "Module"
[04:34] <sabalaba__> so... what's the best IRC client for ubuntu?
[04:34] <Nebulosa> 	Load  "dbe"
[04:34] <Nebulosa> EndSection
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> sabalaba totally depends on  your needs and ussage of irc.
[04:34] <alex87> i really don't want to go back to windows for my home desktop :(, why must there be these annoying regressions
[04:34] <wombatguy> sabalaba: chatzilla
[04:34] <launch> ja baisrais telle ment jessica
[04:34] <ilovefairuz> !best | sabalaba
[04:34] <bastid_raZor> So_Confused: ssh -p8008 localhost  :this will verify it changed. add 'Port 8080' to /etc/ssh/sshd_config then restart ssh: sudo service ssh restart
[04:35] <launch> jveu i bouffer la plote
[04:35] <wombatguy> sabalaba: best is relative and they are right but i don't feel that i've yet to see a mirc alternative for linux but chatzilla is good enough
[04:35] <IdleOne> launch: Please speak in English in this channel and please keep stick to the topic.
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> I cant stand mIRC on windows and dont watn it on linux. :)
[04:35] <So_Confused> bastid_raZor: do I put 'localhost' or switch it for the ip addy?
[04:35] <ilovefairuz> !no | launch
[04:35] <Jerad> xchat is good as well
[04:35] <dave> hay now
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> Im using Chatzilla right now. it works.. but is lacking in ways compared to many other irc clients.
[04:36] <wombatguy> yea like mirc
[04:36] <wombatguy> heh
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> xchat is good all around. But i tend to use weechat - because it suits my needs.
[04:36] <linziyan> there  is  no  "module"   section.....if i add it by me,reset computer,i can enter my graph....
[04:36] <bastid_raZor> So_Confused: if you're behind a router, which most hotspots are.. then the router would need to port forward the port.
[04:36] <Gambit-> hey guys
[04:36] <Gambit-> I've got a multi-homed ubuntu box
[04:36] <Gambit-> I'm trying to get it to act as a router between the two interfaces
[04:36] <Guest23025> haayy gambit
[04:36] <Nebulosa> linziyan: so just add  three strings
[04:36] <Gambit-> echo 1> ip_forward doesn't seem to be enough
[04:37] <Guest23025> whats multihomed?
[04:37] <So_Confused> bastid_raZor: open the port on the router... gotcha.
[04:37] <Gambit-> what am I missing?
[04:37] <Gambit-> Guest23025, multiple ethernet interfaces.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> Gambit-:  youa re echoing the ip forawf to the right path? not just the current working directory?
[04:37] <Gambit-> Dr_Willis, yah
[04:37] <ilovefairuz> !enter | Gambit-
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> Gambit-:  ok. :) making sure..
[04:37] <Gambit-> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[04:37] <Gambit-> Dr_Willis, legit question
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> So_Confused: you will need to use the external IP.
[04:38] <So_Confused> bastid_raZor: kk... editing the config file now. I'll try that in a few
[04:38] <Guest23025> quick question for any tor users
[04:39] <Guest23025> is there a way to change the rate the at which your endpoint ip changes?
[04:39] <Guest23025> say instead of x minutes, maybe y minutes?
[04:40] <IdleOne> Guest23025: there is a #tor you can try asking in
[04:40] <Guest23025> IdleOne: perhaps you are right
[04:40] <Guest23025> thank you
[04:40] <c4pt> sacarlson, i figured out why the option wasnt available i had to git remote add the driver source (as in the nouveau wiki) to /usr/src/pvops.2.6/    then menuconfig then enable it as <m> then make clean
[04:40] <IdleOne> sure thing
[04:40] <c4pt> sacarlson, thanx
[04:40] <Guest23025> i am kinda new to irc
[04:41] <SteveThing> I'm trying to install UNR 10.04 on my Asus 1005HA via USB startup disk creator and it is crashing a keyboard layout during install. Any suggestions?
[04:41] <Gambit-> Dr_Willis, That did the trick, awesome, thanks :)
[04:41] <IdleOne> Guest23025: no problem. glad to help
[04:43] <Jerad> if my install keeps freezing when dpkg runs how can i know which package is causing the issue?
[04:44] <So_Confused_> oops... got disconnected
[04:45] <SteveThing> great, can'
[04:45] <xangua> have you tried create the usb disk with unetbootin instead of disk creator SteveThing¿
[04:45] <SteveThing> great, can't even use liveusb... crashing there too... wtf
[04:45] <_schism_> evening all
[04:46] <ilovefairuz> !hi | _schism_
[04:46] <SteveThing> xangua, no i haven't... i'll give that a shot next
[04:46] <ilovefairuz> Jerad: how much RAM do you have?
[04:46] <Jerad> 1GB on the machine in question
[04:48] <Jerad> is there an install log saved in the filesystem that i can access from a live session?
[04:48] <EasygoingPanda> um,,, how to change group of file or dir
[04:48] <EasygoingPanda> d
[04:49] <bastid_raZor> EasygoingPanda: chgrp newgroup file
[04:49] <dantri> hi
[04:49] <dantri> hi
[04:49] <dantri> hi
[04:49] <FloodBot2> dantri: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:49] <_schism_> I need to know if I can get someone to point me in the right direction I have a problem that I have been working on for about 4 hours now and I am stumped in my noobness and google is failing me. I have a machine I use for listening to pandora and the like hooked up to my tv and decided earlier this week I would upgrade it to 9.04 to 9.10.  all went perfect as I figgured it would.  well about 6 hours ago I decided to upgrade to 10.04 n
[04:49] <_schism_> ow I cant get booted. I get a mode not supported and cant vnc into the machine but thank god I can still ssh.
[04:49] <root> hellow
[04:49] <EasygoingPanda> bastid_raZor : thx.
[04:49] <dantri> is there anyway to have a screencast in ubuntu ?
[04:50] <dantri> would you suggest any software ?
[04:50] <Guest43775> i need help
[04:50] <Nebulosa> dantri: recordmydesktop
[04:50] <Guest43775> helo nev=bulosa
[04:50] <ilovefairuz> !details | Guest43775
[04:51] <Guest43775> i want to unistall a program but its been imposible
[04:51] <SteveThing> Guest43775, what program and how have you tried to uninstall it?
[04:51] <Guest43775> somebody know a perfect way to do it
[04:52] <Guest43775> ah ok
[04:52] <dantri> Nebulosa, how to stop the recordmydesktop?
[04:52] <Nebulosa> dantri: in tray
[04:52] <Guest43775> wait a minute
[04:54] <Guest43775> helo likewise-open
[04:54] <dantri> Nebulosa, why when I start recordmydesktop, everything is so so slow. Maybe it has to capture every millisecond ?
[04:54] <wombatguy> it tries
[04:54] <Nebulosa> dantri: yes it is)
[04:54] <Guest43775> the program is likewise-open
[04:54] <SteveThing> xangua, Turns out it was a corrupted install on USB drive... all fixed...
[04:55] <Viking667> SteveThing: ahhh.
[04:56] <Guest43775> i use likewise-open to join a ubuntu O.Sto a domain
[04:56] <shreymech> hi there..!!!
[04:56] <Guest43775> helow there somebody help me
[04:57] <SteveThing> Guest43775, have you tried using 'sudo apt-get remove likewise-open' from the terminal?
[04:57] <So_Confused> Is there a way to test my ssh port change while both comps are behind the same router? I ssh'd into the laptop with -p 8080, but being I've been able to do that before the port change I don't trust it too much.
[04:57] <Guest43775> yes
[04:57] <shreymech> my SEARCH option is not working .. i am using 10.04 , if i type anything to search it in.. it doesn't give any result even if the searched item is present in that folder... plz help
[04:57] <Guest43775> and nothing happens, it doesnt remove it
[04:57] <SteveThing> Guest43775, no errors?
[04:58] <SteveThing> So_Confused, test it as in?
[04:58] <Guest43775> its shows some error messages
[04:58] <Viking667> Nebulosa: did you refresh the search database? And, what are you using for the search program?
[04:58] <Guest43775> let me try again
[04:58] <SteveThing> So_Confused, you trying to SSH into your device from outside your network?
[04:58] <xangua> what error messages Guest43775¿
[04:58] <Nebulosa> Viking667: just mlocate
[04:58] <Guest43775> sorry about my english
[04:58] <Nebulosa> sudo updatedb..
[04:58] <ilovefairuz> !paste | Guest43775
[04:59] <So_Confused> SteveThing: I want to make sure it's open. The server is my laptop so I can't take that out of the network to test it. I DO want to ssh into it from outside the network
[04:59] <Baumer> Hi, I have an issue with the install.  The installation CD boots, and brings me to a login screen (The same one for 10.04).  It's not my current installation, as it has none of the users.  It actually has no users, just requests a user name and password.  I even disabled booting from every device except that CD drive.  I do not have any clue what to do.  Anyone ever have a similar issue?
[04:59] <SteveThing> So_Confused, ah, ok.. one sec, i think i know a way
[04:59] <Viking667> should have updated when the cron job ran...
[05:00] <shreymech> bump..!!!
[05:00] <SteveThing> So_Confused, private message?
[05:00] <Nebulosa> Viking667: yes, daily
[05:00] <So_Confused> SteveThing: please
[05:00] <ilovefairuz> Baumer: doesn't it login automatically ?
[05:00] <Viking667> weird.
[05:01] <shreymech> my SEARCH option is not working .. i am using 10.04 , if i type anything to search it in.. it doesn't give any result even if the searched item is present in that folder... plz help
[05:01] <Viking667> Nebulosa: so, how large is the mlocate database at the moment?
[05:01] <Baumer> No the screen comes up, Says Ubuntu.  Then has a button labelled Log In
[05:01] <root__> I think i did a little mistake
[05:01] <Baumer> So I click that and then it requests the username, followed by the password
[05:01] <root__> i reseted the Gnome panel
[05:01] <Nebulosa> Viking667: hever think about it.. :)
[05:01] <root__> and now my account is set to root
[05:02] <root__> Does that means i m not gonna be able to login next time?
[05:02] <Viking667> Nebulosa: check in /var/lib/mlocate (as root)
[05:02] <Viking667> sudo ls -l /var/lib/mlocate
[05:02] <tank> whats good everyone
[05:02] <Viking667> tank: for what?
[05:03] <Nebulosa> 3453486
[05:03] <xangua> root__: reseting your panel doesn't do that, what excatly did you do¿
[05:03] <root__> sudo debconf gnome-panel
[05:03] <root__> xagua: sudo debconf gnome-panel
[05:03] <shreymech> desktop search engine not working in my ubuntu, (default search engine)
[05:03] <tank> Viking667: i dont know, whats good with ya? its saturday night!
[05:04] <Guest43775> hey are you there]
[05:04] <root__> And now my user name is not there, is now ROOT
[05:04] <IdleOne> !ot | tank
[05:04] <Viking667> no it's not. it's Sunday afternoon! Sheesh!
[05:04] <vishal_> I wanting to backup (yep, copying) all the packages installed on my machine, how could I do it without AptOnCD?
[05:04] <tank> lol.
[05:04] <tank> aight. lets see what help we can render
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> vishal_:  even apt-on-cd wont (i think) clone EVERY package you have ever instgalled on the system to a cd/dvd/whatever..
[05:05] <Baumer> The Boot CD seems fine... I  THe Ubuntu load screen also takes an incredible amount of time to load
[05:05] <Guest43775> hey steve
[05:05] <alex87> i'd love to have a privately hosted website where my friends can post and organise upcoming events, any suggestions?
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> vishal_:  any you have installed recentluy are in /var/cache/apt/archives. but that may not do what you want either.
[05:05] <bastid_raZor> alex87: apache2
[05:06] <alex87> bastid_raZor, any existing projects that you know of?
[05:06] <ilovefairuz> alex87: buy a web hosting package and use a CMS like drupal or joomla
[05:06] <Guest43775> i used the command line you gave me, and the screen show me a message having me to use apt-get autoremove bla bla ant it worked
[05:07] <Guest43775> thank you
[05:07] <ilovefairuz> alex87: most of these packages come with a one-click install nowadays
[05:07] <vishal_> Dr_Willis, Then no any such a practice which do similar work as like of aptoncd, but I wanting each and every package's copy, yep, apt-on-cd doesn't do that!
[05:07] <alex87> ilovefairuz, fortunately i do a lot of work with drupal, i guess i was just hoping for something google wave-like
[05:07] <Guest43775> thank you
[05:08] <ubunt1> I just burned a USB with the latest version of Linux and I tried to boot from it, but every option I get from the boot selection doesnt meet the USB port.
[05:08] <shreymech> my SEARCH option is not working .. i am using 10.04 , if i type anything to search it in.. it doesn't give any result even if the searched item is present in that folder... plz help
[05:08] <shreymech> desktop search engine not working in my ubuntu, (default search engine)
[05:08] <ilovefairuz> alex87: search for "events" modules
[05:08] <bastid_raZor> vishal_: that would be a huge set of .debs  consider each version more than likely has a different version dependency
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> vishal_:  never tried. You could proberly write up some script that could go through your installed packages and apt-get 'download only' them then you could backup that..
[05:08] <alex87> ilovefairuz, good idea, thanks
[05:08] <brez> I'm not afraid
[05:09] <RealOpty> hey
[05:09] <licensed> hello my friends! anybody knows how can i do to change my user password if my /home is encrypted?
[05:09] <Baumer> Maybe I'll try a hard disk boot
[05:09] <RealOpty> there used to be a tool under 'system -> admin' for the services that run on the machine
[05:09] <SteveThing> anyone know a way to see what ip is connected to my machine by port number (i.e. port 8080)?
[05:09] <RealOpty> is that a special package i need to install now?
[05:09] <bastid_raZor> SteveThing: netsat -napt
[05:09] <SteveThing> thanx
[05:10] <ZykoticK9> RealOpty, you to try Bum (boot up manager)
[05:11] <ilovefairuz> SteveThing: netstat | grep 8080
[05:11] <ZykoticK9> RealOpty, s/to/could
[05:11] <RealOpty> cool thanks
[05:11] <Chriss83> hi all :)
[05:11] <RealOpty> need to install new kernel
[05:11] <RealOpty> peace
[05:12] <student> My 500gb harddrive is 320 windows 7 and 160 karmic
[05:12] <vishal_> bastid_raZor, Dr_Willis: I wanting to do such a job because mine friends are using Ubuntu (as I encouraged them for that) and they are having no network connection, so as every time (when they wanting any debian package) I need to make a new one DVD by using apt-on-cd, surely it's take much time, as well as time too...
[05:12] <Chriss83> I'm a newbie to linux (recovering Windows user) who needs some help with the install process.  RE: Newbie.
[05:13] <student> Is it possible for malware from my karmic partition to affect my windows 7 partition??
[05:13] <vishal_> *cost~time
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> apt on cd can work to a flash drive or hard drive i thought.
[05:13] <xangua> Chriss83: install what¿ ubuntu¿ software¿
[05:14] <Jerad> student: i have never seen that happen unless you're accessing this "malware" from within windows.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> student:  what malware?  it would be odd that anything on the linux side would affect windows or visa-versa
[05:14] <Chriss83> just tried to install ubuntu 10.04, ran into a hang, read the message boards, and saw greek.  again, newbie.  don't know code.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> student:  if you want to be truely safe. dont mount your windows partitions.
[05:14] <student> Dr_Willis: Just a hypothetical question
[05:14] <SteveThing> Chriss83, what's happening during install?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> student:  then the hypothetical answer is  'no'
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> !virus | student
[05:15] <vishal_> Dr_Willis, yep, first I make ISO image from apt-on-cd and then write it to cd/dvd, but it never copied all the packages I've installed on my machine yet!
[05:15] <j4y> I am trying to download IMVU on ubuntu and i just installed a program called wine. When i bring up "what should firefox download with" i cannot find wine on the drop down menu and because i am new i do not know where to locate wine to open IMVU Download with, please help
[05:15] <So_Confused> Thank you room once again for helping me through another question.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> vishal_:  You could get a largeish hard drive. and just clone the whole repository to it for your friend.
[05:15] <Chriss83> I get through all of the initial screens, hard drive partitions successfully, and when I click the final "forward" all I see is the background.  no hard disk activity, no cdrom activity.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> j4y:  you dont normally download things from the web to install on ubuntu.. use the package manager to install wine.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> j4y:  sudo apt-get install wine         <----------- and it auto downloads it as needed
[05:16] <Baumer> Hi, I have an issue with the install.  The installation CD boots, and brings me to a login screen (The same one for 10.04).  It's not my current installation, as it has none of the users.  It actually has no users, just requests a user name and password.  I even disabled booting from every device except that CD drive.  I do not have any clue what to do.  Anyone ever have a similar issue?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> j4y:  ive no idea what IMVU even is.
[05:17] <j4y> i have already installed wine, im trying to open it from download (IMVU is a chat program)
[05:17] <j4y>  *open IMVU download with wine
[05:17] <j4y> http://www.imvu.com/catalog/web_download_steps.php
[05:17] <vishal_> By the way, could I copy (backup) just a only package (with it's dependencies) to flash-drive/removable-drive/hdd?
[05:17] <j4y> when it asks to open with, i want to choose wine
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> j4y:  you are douible clicking on a .exe you downloaded?
[05:18] <j4y>   (open with wine windows product loader)
[05:18] <Jerad> that reminds me... my install freezes while dpkg is running, but i don't see a log file in /var/log/. i'm assuming there should be a dpkg.log that i can reference.
[05:18] <j4y> no just once
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> j4y:  download the program to your downloads directory.. then double click on the exe. or right click on the exe and use the opwn with windows loader/wine.. dont try to run it in wine from the browser..
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> j4y:  or download it to your Downloads directory, then from a terminal use a command like  'wine ~/Downloads/whatever.exe'
[05:19] <j4y> ok i will try that, thank you willis...also..how are you talking to me in red?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> j4y:  its not in red :)
[05:19] <j4y> oh i see it in red
[05:19] <j4y> lol
[05:19] <vishal_> And could I get the markings of the installed packages from Synaptic Package Manager, so as by reading that markings' text file next time, I can easily retrieve all those?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> j4y:  thats your irc client...
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> j4y, when you use an IRC Nic(name) it will appear in red in xchat
[05:20] <j4y> ok ty
[05:20] <j4y> didnt know that
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> j4y:   you DID check the wine app database to see if that program works in wine at all?
[05:20] <aviv> surabaya
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, platinum
[05:20] <j4y> well..i have used it already..im actually asking for a friend
[05:20] <j4y> over the phone
[05:20] <Tux533> hello
[05:20] <j4y> but i know that would have sounded weird
[05:20] <j4y> lol..
[05:21] <Chriss83> SteveThing: I am trying to install from cd, alongside Vista
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> j4y:  you have used it in wine allready?
[05:21] <didongli> hello
[05:21] <j4y> yes willis, but im trying to help my g/f over the phone
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> That IMVU seems just a little too... creepy :)
[05:21] <Tux533> ian nwe
[05:21] <j4y> cause...it will not work for her
[05:21] <Tux533> iam new
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Tux533
[05:22] <Tux533> thanks !!!
[05:22] <didongli> yes
[05:22] <shreymech> my SEARCH option is not working .. i am using 10.04 , if i type anything to search it in.. it doesn't give any result even if the searched item is present in that folder... plz help
[05:22] <shreymech> desktop search engine not working in my ubuntu, (default search engine)
[05:22] <user_> k
[05:22] <j4y> thank you willis
[05:22] <vishal_> Could I get the markings of the installed packages from Synaptic Package Manager, so as by reading that markings' text file next time, I can easily retrieve all those?
[05:22] <shreymech> search documents and folders option stopped working
[05:23] <m_digital> i need help setting up a pptp server... i think i have pptpd.conf and /etc/ppp/pptp-options correct, where else should i look?
[05:23] <Chriss83> hmmm..  perhaps I should rtfm to see if I can troubleshoot this myself.  :)
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> !clone | vishal_
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> vishal_:  those commands make a text file list of whats hinstalled..
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> vishal_:  watch out for installing things on other machines that you dont need.. ie: nvidia drivers on an ati box and so forth
[05:24] <vishal_> Dr_Willis, Hey thanks, that's great... :)
[05:24] <vishal_> Dr_Willis, yep, I look out those...
[05:25] <jimbo_> I accidentally installed ubuntu 10.04 with gnome, when all I really wanted was a minimal machine (give me a kernel, bash, and apt, I'll do the rest); In the interest of saving time and learning something, how can I get a list of packages to remove to get a minimal system?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> vishal_:  also backup your apt sources listings
[05:25] <jimbo_> I know I could go download a server ISO but that's not the intent of my question.
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> fire up package manager and start removing :)
[05:26] <jimbo_> I'll be there all night
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> yep proberly will
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> !puregnome
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> !purekde
[05:26] <LilyFaith> So I made a big boo boo and am wondering if anyone can help (Or if there is any help) I was attempting to migrate my mother from Windows to Ubuntu and made the assumption that all of her family photos from the last 5 years were in the Documents folders, but as usual windows stored it in some programs folder or something, but i already wiped the computer and installed ubuntu.  Is there a ubuntu app for searching freespace for file re
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> jimbo_:  perhaps thiose will help
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> LilyFaith:  you mean Undelete stuff from a repartiioned/formated hard drive? or SCAN/search the windows drive that you hopefully dident erase for all images?
[05:27] <jimbo_> Dr_Willis: good stuff, wonder why I couldn't find that.  Weak goo-fu tonight
[05:28] <LilyFaith> Unfortunately the first one, its the drive I formatted and installed ubuntu on
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> minimal is the new 'big' thing these days. :)
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> LilyFaith:  i would imagine they are gone.
[05:28] <jimbo_> Dr_Willis: not complete, but a good start.  pure-whatever still assumes xorg and a WM.
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> LilyFaith:  you have written over the drive after formating it.. so  thats not good.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> LilyFaith:  you assumed the 'user migration' tool/thing in the uibuntu installer copied the images over?
[05:29] <jimbo_> LilyFaith: how big is the drive/
[05:29] <jimbo_> I have have good results with `foremost` against disk/partition images.
[05:29] <jimbo_> Particularly with jpegs
[05:30] <LilyFaith> Ya, well I know you can search freespace for data patterns using an app called R-Studio even if you have formatted, etc, but thats a windows app so was wondering if there was a ubuntu equiv
[05:30] <jimbo_> foremost is one.
[05:30] <LilyFaith> Ji,mbo that probably what Im looking for
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> just hope you dident totally whipe the stuff out.
[05:31] <sikilpaake> how can i mount /dev/sda10 ?
[05:31] <sikilpaake> to which mountpoint, i mean?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> sikilpaake:  sudo mount /dev/sda10 /media/MAKEADIRECTORY
[05:31] <LilyFaith> neat.  ill give it a shot
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> sikilpaake:  mout it whever you want
[05:31] <Chriss83> installing ubuntu 10.04 I get through all of the initial screens, hard drive partitions successfully, and when I click the final "forward" all I see is the background.  no hard disk activity, no cdrom activity. read the message boards, but I don't understand code. very new to this, trying to learn.  can anyone help?
[05:31] <sikilpaake> Dr_Willis: /media/ will mount it to its own automatic mountpoint?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> sikilpaake:  i said make a directory. that will be its mountpoint.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> sikilpaake:  if the auto mounting sybsystem does  it - it should make some directory for it in /media/
[05:32] <sikilpaake> Dr_Willis: perfect
[05:32] <Th3> hola
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> sikilpaake:  based on the name or UUID.  but if you mount it by hand - YOU decide the name
[05:33] <sikilpaake> Dr_Willis: right.. thanks!
[05:33] <Th3> alguien habla español?
[05:34] <Jub369> Help i upgrade from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 now when boot get grub loading error: the symbol grub_puts_  grub rescue > and doesnt go any farther
[05:34] <xangua> !es | Th3
[05:34] <jimbo_> Chriss83: How do you know it's the "final" forward click though?
[05:35] <chalcedony> how can i grab a youtube video?
[05:35] <Th3> gracias hermano
[05:36] <Chriss83> jimbo_: I guess I am not sure. need a better description?
[05:36] <jimbo_> Chriss83: I haven't used the graphical installer anyway, just trying to determine where you are in the process.  How long have you allowed it to sit?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony:  thers numerous firefox extensions that help automate that..  or other tools for the command line
[05:37] <Chriss83> jimbo_: about 45 mins now.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[05:37] <chalcedony> Dr_Willis, commandline?
[05:37] <_schism_> no one can help me with 10.04 x problems :(
[05:37] <student> Dr_Willis: Noooooo
[05:38]  * chalcedony cries
[05:38] <jimbo_> Chriss83: Tried just booting from the hard drive? (remove the cd)
[05:38] <student> I didn't even get a chance to ask second question or thank for first
[05:38] <Volkodav> http://pastebin.com/GnCenhzZ  I ran this script and it seems I boot using the grub from sdb since it is marked first in BIOS - now I edit /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme for wallpaper and splash - the file seems ok to me http://pastebin.com/Dein1Asd but no changes are really made so I think I am editing the wrong grub?
[05:38] <sacarlson> Jub369:  did you try reinstall grub2 with a live boot cd?
[05:38] <jimbo_> chalcedony: You can look into how those scripts work, and replicate that with the commandline.  It will boil down to parsing HTML and taking action on that.
[05:38] <student> I don't want my partitions to mount on each other
[05:38] <Chriss83> jimbo_: yes, it brings up Vista
[05:39] <Chriss83> trying to install alongside.
[05:39] <Jub369> sacarlson i can't find a grub cd and i cant find a guide on how to
[05:39] <student> How do I prevent partitions to mount on each other?
[05:39] <ubudad> Was troubleshooting some symptoms I thought might be related to the wireless network, when I make some config changes  that I haven't been able to correct.   Broadcom 4312 with STA driver enabled and in use, but network manager doesn't see my network?  Any ideas?
[05:39] <mikubuntu> i downloaded a file using transmission bittorent client, but now i can't find it anywhere .. where could it be hiding?
[05:39] <tman_> lol
[05:39] <jimbo_> Chriss83: oh dual booting, no idea.  Have to research that specifically for any issues, good luck.
[05:39] <ubudad> _schism_: Just joined, what's your problem?
[05:39] <sacarlson>  Jub369:  do you have a ubuntu live boot cd?
[05:39] <RealOpty> lol i need to auto connect to this channel
[05:39] <jimbo_> student: partitions don't mount on each other, that doesn't make sense.  What's the symptom of whatever problem you're having?
[05:39] <Jub369> a old 9.04
[05:39] <Jub369> or 9.10 scarlson but not a 10.04
[05:40] <jimbo_> mikubuntu: sudo updatedb && locate "part-of-torrent-filename"
[05:40] <student> I didn't want windows to be affected by karmic he told me it wouldn't but not to mount it on karmic
[05:40] <student> Is karmic 64bit good on an i7?
[05:40] <_schism_> ubudad thanks you sir I had a 9.04 that I updated to 9.10 and then today went to 10.04 and now x will not work and I have no idea why. still fairly new to nix I can still ssh into the machine
[05:41] <Chriss83> jimbo_: thx. think I may just try installing ubuntu alone.  I have another machine I have access to with windows on it.
[05:41] <jimbo_> student: unless karmic is silly (and it might be), your XP partition won't be mounted automatically.
[05:41] <student> jimbo_: Windows 7
[05:41] <jimbo_> Chriss83: I've always had excellent luck with the "alternative" ISOs.  Maybe try that.  Less to go wrong.
[05:41] <mikubuntu> jimbo, in parenthesis?
[05:41] <jimbo_> mikubuntu: ?
[05:41] <mikubuntu> jimbo, i mean "quotes"
[05:41] <jimbo_> mikubuntu: optiona
[05:42] <mikubuntu> k, lemme try
[05:42] <Chriss83> jimbo_: haven't tried that yet.  will do.
[05:42] <student> jimbo_: Would windows mount karmic partition? (I don't want it to)
[05:42] <chatter000> hi anyone know why sound might be all messed up in a windows game + wine that is listed as platinum?
[05:42] <ubudad> _schism_:  what does "sudo jockey-gtk -l " report?
[05:42] <RealOpty> when using et2fsch with option -c where is this 'bad block list' ?
[05:42] <jimbo_> student: if you really want to be safe, you can blacklist the ntfs and ntfs-3g kernel drivers. These make accessing windows partitions possible in the first place.  You can do that via /etc/modprobe/blacklist if I recall correctly.  Also no, Windows will not mount Karmic, because MS makes no attempt at interoperability.
[05:43] <_schism_> ubudad 2 seconds let me power it on.  turned it off cause i was getting a bit aggravated
[05:43] <Chriss83> night all.
[05:43] <jimbo_> Night
[05:43] <ubudad> _schism_:  Cool... but just a word of advice... patience is imperative when seeking help from an IRC channel.
[05:44] <student> Is 64bit karmic better than 32bit karmic? I7 (2.13ghz) 8gb ram???
[05:44] <_schism_> ubudad I know I meant more like my fans were not spinning up and was worried about things getting fried
[05:44] <mikubuntu> jimbo, nice trick, thanx
[05:44] <jimbo_> mikubuntu: updatedb runs daily with default config anyway.  Therefore the "sudo updatedb" part is only needed if the file is less than a day old.  Usually just `locate` is fine.  No prob.
[05:45] <ubudad> _schism_: OK... that sounds like more than an Xwindows problem maybe...
[05:45] <_schism_> ubudad, /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:57: GtkWarning: could not open display
[05:45] <_schism_>   warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
[05:45] <_schism_> This program needs a running X session. Please use jockey-text for a command line version of Jockey.
[05:45]  * micke-away estoy ausente, vuelvo pronto
[05:45] <xangua> !away > micke-away
[05:45] <_schism_> let me try the txt one
[05:45] <student> micke-away: Mentiras
[05:45] <_schism_> ubudad, yeah the txt one failed as well
[05:46] <ubudad> _schism_: what error?
[05:46] <somethinginteres> hi all, how can I stop some apps, dialogs etc randomly appearing on the wrong monitor in a TwinView setup?
[05:46] <_schism_> ubudad, /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:57: GtkWarning: could not open display
[05:46] <_schism_>   warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
[05:47] <ubudad> _schism_:  with sudo jockey-text -l?
[05:47] <_schism_> ubudad, yep  schism@media:~$ sudo jockey-text -l
[05:47] <_schism_> /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:57: GtkWarning: could not open display
[05:47] <_schism_>   warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
[05:47] <_schism_> schism@media:~$
[05:47] <FloodBot2> _schism_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <ubudad> _schism_: strange that it should be trying to open the display...
[05:48] <RealOpty> when using et2fsch with option -c where is the badblock list ignored by the filesystem now?
[05:48] <_schism_> ubudad, yeah I have no clue and google is failing me.  downloading 9.04 and going to dump and reinstall its begining to look like
[05:49] <ubudad> _schism_: If you reinstall, you might try a clean install of 10.04 (I did understand that you got to this point by way of an upgrade, correct?)
[05:49] <_schism_> ubudad, and never heard of a upgrade killing x before
[05:50] <jimbo_> really? that's the oldest story in the book (since 2002)
[05:50] <_schism_> ubudad, yes it was an upgrade, but, the 10.04 disc fails before the desktop loads. to be honest I only tried it once but thats when I shut the machine down because I was worried about the heat
[05:51] <So_Confused> Anyone have experience using DynDns or other like services? I'm trying to figure out how to state the ssh command in the terminal. The help docs on the site are a bit thin.
[05:51] <ubudad> _schism_: Yeah, the upgrades have usually worked okay for me too -- but I think this release had some pretty heavy changes.
[05:51] <jimbo_> So_Confused: I have experience with dyndns.  Don't know what you mean about any SSH commands though.
[05:51] <_schism_> ubudad, yep looks that way. just hoping my noobness was showing is all.
[05:53] <So_Confused> jimbo_: I have my laptop set to be a web proxy. I've forwarded and opened port 8080. Tested and it's working. Now I need to know what the ssh command will be when connecting through putty or terminal. ex... ssh -p 8080 my.domain.com
[05:53] <jimbo_> So_Confused: you wouldn't ssh to a web proxy, you would ssh to a webserver.
[05:53] <vhugox> Hi there!. My microphone doesn't work on Ubuntu 9.10, I'm using a Siragon Laptop. I've been trying a lot of suggestion in google, but nothing gives me results.
[05:53] <jimbo_> oops, I mean to an ssh server.
[05:54] <Holywall> hi guys!!!!
[05:54] <jimbo_> So_Confused: If the proxy is running HTTP on 8080 (and it is) you would never SSH to that port.
[05:54] <Holywall> algum brasileiro???
[05:54] <ubudad> My wireless is not seeing networks.  Jockey reports the broadcom STA driver installed, enabled, and in use. Network manager sees both my wired nic and the wireless, but does not see any networks.  Any wireless gurus able to assist?  10.04 on a Dell laptop with BCM4312...
[05:54] <Holywall> any one can help me???
[05:54] <ubudad> _schism_: sorry I couldn't help you get further with it...
[05:54] <jimbo_> ubudad: got a wireless kill switch? :)
[05:55] <xangua> !pt > Holywall
[05:55] <Holywall> with wine.... how make i to got on the full tilt poker??
[05:55] <_schism_> ubudad, not a problem and as far as the wireless have you tried wickd?  and make sure there isnt a hardwired lock out switch
[05:55] <will_> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 10.04 (first time user) and am having trouble getting the broadcom bcm4318 wireless on my dell c640 to work. I've tried a few things and no luck yet
[05:55] <ubudad> jimbo_: Yes, but it is on.  When off, the wireless nic isn't seen and the bluetooth is also off.
[05:56] <IdleOne> !br | Holywall
[05:56] <ubudad> will_: have you run jockey-gtk, to see what driver, if any, is loaded or needed on it?
[05:56] <So_Confused> jimbo_: ok... I'll change the port. Tell me if I'm wrong in my thinking... i'm overseas. I ssh into the laptop, set Firefox to use that tunnel and route all web traffic through my server. does that make sense?
[05:57] <MaRk-I> !broadcom | will
[05:57] <RealOpty> whats the best gui torrent application?
[05:57] <jimbo_> So_Confused: You are overseas, the laptop is at home, and you want to tunnel everything through home?
[05:57] <will_> pulls up a window titled "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[05:57] <So_Confused> jimbo_: yes
[05:57] <jimbo_> So_Confused: where does dyndns come into this?
[05:57] <Ashev1591> hi all
[05:58] <ubudad> will_: Do you have a wired network for temporary use?
[05:58] <So_Confused> jimbo_: As I understand it, that's really the only way to have a static address. So I don't have to call and find out what the ip is.
[05:58] <will_> yes
[05:58] <ubudad> will_: Does it show any drivers in that window?
[06:00] <will_> no
[06:00] <jimbo_> So_Confused: Ok.  For the purposes of the tunnel, dyndns can be ignored for now.  Have you already created the ssh tunnel?
[06:00] <Guest75421> hi guys, new to linux using 10.4, and wondering of there is an app I might be able to use to burn (iso) images to flash drives
[06:00] <dos000> lucid was sooo terrible to setup on my acer m5700 machine
[06:00] <ubudad> will_: have you done an update/upgrade since the installation to ensure you have all the bugfixes and whatnot?
[06:00]  * MichaelSOG esta de regreso
[06:00] <So_Confused> jimbo_: I have, but for now all comps are behind the same router.
[06:01] <vhugox> Hi there!. My microphone doesn't work on Ubuntu 9.10, I'm using a Siragon Laptop. I've been trying a lot of suggestion in google, but nothing gives me results.
[06:01] <xangua> !away > MichaelSOG
, there's one built in
[06:01] <MaRk-I> !unetbootin | Guest75421
[06:01] <jimbo_> So_Confused: that's ok, as long as you use the WAN ip addresses for your testing it is the same thing.
[06:01] <ubudad> will_: if not, try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
, usb start up creator. System->administration->usb startup creator
[06:01] <jimbo_> So_Confused: you've mapped localhost:XXXX to laptop-ip:8080 via an SSH tunnel, yes?
[06:01] <dos000> unebootin saved the day when i wanted to hlash my bios
[06:02] <ubudad> will_: it will take a while -- then try jockey again when it completes.
[06:02] <RealOpty> is this bad stuff? http://paste.ubuntu.com/474795/
[06:02] <So_Confused> jimbo_: Yes
[06:02] <Guest75421> I already have ubuntu installed, this is a different iso
[06:02] <jimbo_> So_Confused: is localhost:XXXX open if you scan it (or telnet to it)?
[06:02] <_schism_> ubudad, would you believe eberything including init.d fails under 10.04?
[06:03] <evon> question: If i have a 64bit chip but install a 32bit edition of ubuntu what's the maximum supported ram it will use? I ask because windows xp 32bit only supports 3gigs
[06:03] <jimbo_> So_Confused: sorry, I just realized you said it's tested and working, missed that somehow.  SO the only concern is over dyndns?
[06:03] <So_Confused> jimbo_: I can ping it
[06:03] <ubudad> _schism_: bad ISO burn?
[06:03] <bastid_raZor> ubottu: tell evon about pae
[06:03] <jimbo_> So_Confused: ping doesn't tell us anything, you must be able to tcp connect to that port.
[06:03] <So_Confused> jimbo_: if I can do it without dyndns that's fine. But yes,,, now it's having a static addy
[06:03] <_schism_> ubudad, dont think so I have used it on 2 other machines. maybe the thing is too old
[06:04] <xangua> evon: installing 32bit kernel won't make your OS 64bit
[06:04] <So_Confused> jimbo_: someone on the forum tried to connect via ssh. His i.p. showed up in netstat
[06:04] <ubudad> _schism_: possibly bad cd drive?
[06:04] <jimbo_> So_Confused: which is expected (TCP) although the protocols are mismatched.
[06:04] <will_> thanks guys I implemented your suggestions and now I need to reboot. If I don't come back, then it worked
[06:04] <xangua> evon: for using 4Gb of RAM or more with 32bit use the !pae kernel
[06:05] <So_Confused> jimbo_: so do I need to test it with a full login?
[06:05] <jimbo_> So_Confused: I have something for you just a sec.
[06:05] <ubudad> _schism_: You were referring to booting to the live CD, right?  And not booting to the installed OS?
[06:05] <_schism_> ubdad possible have 2 drives and have tried them both. burning 9.04  now to see if maybe its just 10.04 that doesnt like it
[06:05] <evon> xangua: is that hard to install? I suck at compiling kernels
[06:05] <_schism_> ubudad, yep live cd
[06:05] <xangua> evon: you just have to install it from repositories
[06:05] <bastid_raZor> evon: follow the guide ubottu gave you.
[06:05] <Guest75421> I already have ubuntu installed, this is a different iso
[06:05] <evon> bastid_razor thanks
[06:06] <chipnt> anyone is actually running a high load traffic website?
[06:06] <ubudad> _schism_: How old is the system?  And how much RAM?
[06:06] <bastid_raZor> evon: you're welcome.
[06:06]  * chipnt $setups some questions @ this :)
[06:06] <_schism_> ubudad, old and 512meg I think
[06:06] <evon> bastid_razor now i have to figure out xp. Take care man
[06:07] <Gabloco> grub2 broke my home web server....
[06:07] <[L]> i can't try ubuntu live cd in my toshiba laptop
[06:07] <Gabloco> anyone can help?
[06:08] <Gabloco> can anyone direct-me to where I can find information about fixing my grub boot?
[06:08] <chipnt> i am thinking to use solr to index meta data from 15 tb of pdf files, i never did this before so i need to know how much delay for solr solr to serve about  10 searches in same time, (I guess that by having 10.000 computers doing this 8 9 hours per day, at each 10 mins interval probably)
[06:08] <bastid_raZor> !grub2 | Gabloco
[06:08] <ubudad> _schism_: I don't know what the memory specs of the live CD are with the latest release -- wouldn't be too surprised if it didn't require 768 by now.
[06:08] <[L]> any 1 can help me
[06:09]  * [L] newbie
[06:09] <Gabloco> yes before I came here I read everything I could there
[06:09] <ubudad> [L]: What does it do?
[06:09] <Gabloco> I have linux installed on ntfs (bad idea)
[06:09] <Gabloco> but now after an uprgrade on synapsys
[06:09] <[L]> can't in to GUI mode
[06:09] <joebobjoe> i just bought a new router and now i cannot connect to my ubuntu server using its hostname, when im ssh'd into the box it says "cannot resolve hostname", any advice?
[06:09] <_schism_> ubudad, think that could cause it to fail a lot of stuff including init.d?
[06:09] <Gabloco> grub2 does not load
[06:10] <jimbo_> So_Confused: agh, I can't get into that machine right now.  I have a simple shell script to update dyndns though.  The short version: you can HTTP POST to something like http://dyndns.org/?u=user&p=pass&i=new_ip
[06:10] <[L]> just blank screen
[06:10] <jimbo_> So_Confused: put that in a 5-minute crontab and you're always updated.
[06:10] <will_> I just tried the instructions from the Wifidocs; no improvement. The problem may be that I tried some other things first, including blacklisting the 43xx drivers (since then I deleted the blacklist), but now my wireless card is not even detected whereas when I first installed the os it was at least detected just inactive. Any thoughts?
[06:10] <Gabloco> I have to manually input grub comands everytine
[06:10] <MaRk-I> [L]: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[06:10] <blackaroni> 1337 users hahaha
[06:10] <nisstyre65> jimbo_: you do that with curl?
[06:10] <jimbo_> nisstyre65: indeed.
[06:11] <jimbo_> nisstyre65: ip=`curl whatismyip.org` && curl -d ... # This was pretty much the entire script.
[06:11] <bastid_raZor> joebobjoe: possibly your other box now has a different IP than before? try using hostname.local  replacing hostname with the actual host's name
[06:11] <ubudad> _schism_: not sure... it wouldn't surprise me.  With only 512, you may thing about Xubuntu or Lubuntu (Lubuntu is not an *official* member of the family yet, but you can google it.)
[06:11] <nisstyre65> jimbo_: gladd dyndns does that, but technically that's a security vuln
[06:11] <blackaroni> this channel has 1337 users
[06:11] <nisstyre65> *glad
[06:11] <blackaroni> ugh..
[06:11] <[L]> ok Tq :)
[06:11] <jimbo_> nisstyre65: how so?
[06:11] <[L]> i will try
[06:11] <nisstyre65> oh wait, you need the password
[06:11] <nisstyre65> /facepalm
[06:11] <jimbo_> nisstyre65: :)
[06:11] <nisstyre65> if you were doing it with cookies then it would be a CSRF
[06:11] <Gabloco> is there a grub room in this server
[06:11] <Gabloco> ??
[06:11] <jimbo_> nisstyre65: I presume it's also https, don't recall for sure.
[06:11] <buuuunt> why am i getting this error when i try to bootstrap?
[06:12] <buuuunt> sudo debootstrap --verbose -arch armel --foreign lenny /media/android-linux  ftp.us.debian.org/debian/
[06:12] <buuuunt> E: No such script: lenny
[06:12] <So_Confused> jimbo_: I set up the updater and copied the text from the dyndns website into the file they specified. If it's working or not I really can't tell being there doesn't seem to be any window or readout from it.
[06:12] <_schism_> ubudad, yeah I played with lubuntu on an older system but if I remeber correctly one of the machine si used this same cd on only had 256 megs
[06:12] <jimbo_> So_Confused: link to what they had you do?
[06:12] <lelle_> hi, i need help with my wireless..
[06:12] <So_Confused> jimbo_: one sec
[06:13] <So_Confused> jimbo_: http://www.dyndns.com/support/kb/using_ddclient_with_dyndns_services.html
[06:14] <So_Confused> jimbo_: then followed the link to the Update Client Configurator.
[06:14] <jimbo_> So_Confused: okay, well that probably works just fine but it's pretty severe overkill IMO.
[06:14] <buuuunt> anyone familiar with deboostrap?
[06:16] <jimbo_> I suppose they've got to create "business value" somehow.
[06:16] <joebobjoe> bastid_raZor: im getting "sudo: unable to resolve host elephant"
[06:16] <So_Confused> jimbo_: well... it's in there so I'm not gonna bother it.
[06:17] <bastid_raZor> joebobjoe: what is the command you're using?
[06:17] <joebobjoe> sudo
[06:17] <bastid_raZor> joebobjoe: sudo what?
[06:17] <joebobjoe> but it says "unable to resolve host elephant" all the time
[06:17] <joebobjoe> bastid_raZor: sudo *
[06:17] <bastid_raZor> joebobjoe: did you change you're hostname?
[06:18] <jimbo_> haha, that happened to me once too.
[06:18] <lelle_> hi ive been trying to connect wireless for some time now without success... i have a paper with both a wep and a wpa key on it, but ubuntus internet connection settings only allow one at the same time, which is the most important?
[06:18] <joebobjoe> bastid_raZor: no but i changed my router
[06:19] <jimbo_> joebobjoe: what is the output of `hostname` and `cat /etc/hosts`?
[06:19] <jimbo_> and `cat /etc/hostname` while we're at it
[06:19] <bastid_raZor> joebobjoe: "sudo *" is not a valid command.
[06:20] <jimbo_> might be, but it's a bad idea :p
[06:20] <ubudad> lelle_: Your router can only be setup for one or the other.  Given the choice, WPA is far more secure, but your choice on your Ubuntu system must use whatever your network uses.
[06:20] <ubudad> lelle_: I'm guessing that one of those is old and no longer used.
[06:20] <dave__> Can someone help me figure out why this figure function in mallard isn't coming up right?
[06:21] <lelle_> ubadad hmmm.. how do i know what it uses? both keys are exactly the same tho
[06:21] <joebobjoe> jimbo_: 1. "elephant" 2. http://pastebin.com/Pm1QERpe
[06:21] <bastid_raZor> joebobjoe: what are you trying to do?
[06:21] <MaRk-I> lelle_: check your router setup... if it's set to use WEP or WPA.... not both
[06:22] <jimbo_> joebobjoe: typo in /etc/hosts
[06:22] <ubudad> lelle_: most likely, when you first try to connect, network manager will detect the encryption type and simply prompt you for the appropriate key.  If both are the same -- no worries.
[06:22] <joebobjoe> jimbo_: i see
[06:22] <joebobjoe> oops
[06:22] <joebobjoe> bastid_raZor: when i said sudo * i meant that any command gives the unable to resolve hostname problem
[06:23] <ubudad> lelle_: Now... if what you have is two different *network names* (one using WEP and the other WPA), then use the one using WPA.
[06:23] <joebobjoe> jimbo_: fixed, thanks
[06:23] <jimbo_> joebobjoe: np.  Question though, how did you manage to edit /etc/hosts without sudo?
[06:23] <joebobjoe> bastid_raZor: thanks for your help too
[06:24] <joebobjoe> jimbo_: ubuntu bug ;)
[06:24] <bastid_raZor> joebobjoe: credit goes to jimbo.
[06:24] <jimbo_> joebobjoe: yeah?
[06:24] <saganbyte> Hello :)
[06:25] <jimbo_> You must have had sudo'd recently or something?
[06:25] <saganbyte> Can anybody please suggest a desktop RSS reader which syncs with Google reader?
[06:25] <saganbyte> For Ubuntu of course
[06:25] <kostkon> !info liferea | saganbyte
[06:26] <saganbyte> kostkon, thanks! :)
[06:26] <lelle_> ubadad im thinking... is the keys for wifi only? corded connection never asks me for keys, should i ignore the keys for wireless too then?
[06:26] <joebobjoe> jimbo_: i edited the file a few days ago for whatever reason
[06:27] <jasonwryan> saganbyte: newsbeuter also syncs with google reader but it is ncurses based...
[06:27] <joebobjoe> jimbo_: sudo has been working anyway without the resolved host
[06:27] <joebobjoe> name
[06:27] <ubuntu> ya creo que funciona
[06:27] <ubuntu> uy,sorry guys!!
[06:28] <jimbo_> joebobjoe: oh ok.  A few years ago on ubuntu I changed my hostname and was promptly locked out of sudo.  Had to mount the disk from another OS and fix sudoers.
[06:28] <joebobjoe> jimbo_: guess they must have changed that
[06:29] <ubudad> lelle_: Yes, only for wifi.  W/o it, anyone with a little expertise can intercept data sent over wireless.
[06:30] <ubudad> lelle_: Gotta go for a reboot.  Probably won't be back on afterwards -- need to get to bed before church tomorrow.
[06:30] <lelle_> ubadad :( ok thanks alot tho
[06:33] <uRock> !filezilla
[06:34] <uRock> !samba
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Fighting with samba right now. :)
[06:36] <ibrahim-kasem>  how to check if my ubuntu is 32 or 64bit? ?
[06:36]  * uRock is just getting some read time in and needed a link to something new to read.
[06:36] <tensorpudding> ibrahim-kasem: uname -m
[06:37] <ibrahim-kasem> tensorpudding, i686 means what ?
[06:37] <tensorpudding> 32 bit
[06:37] <piglit> in command line i find it confusing that all text has got the same color, is it easy to change the color form things i type my self ?
[06:37] <Devilinops> hello i was wondering if ubuntu home can be used as a small server with out having to install server edition?
[06:37] <uRock> yup
[06:37] <Viking667> i.e. not 64 bit
[06:37] <Viking667> Devilinops: any of them can
[06:37] <maco> Devilinops: sure
[06:37] <Devilinops> thank you
[06:37] <Viking667> ... just add the right server programs...
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Devilinops:  install the services you need.. start sering
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> serving. :)
[06:38] <ibrahim-kasem> tensorpudding, thank you, my ram is 3g do you think that its better to install the 64 bit ? on core2due laptop
[06:38] <Devilinops> ok thanks so much
[06:38] <Viking667> ... and don't forget to configure the services correctly
[06:38] <joebobjoe> Viking667: what do you mean?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> 'always read and follow label directions'
[06:39] <tensorpudding> ibrahim-kasem: If you know what you're doing, you can make 64-bit work fine.
[06:39] <uRock> ibrahim-kasem, your system will run a bit faster with 64bit, but may not be noticable
[06:39] <tensorpudding> If you don't use flash or any proprietary software, you won't notice at all
[06:39] <Viking667> i.e. for every server he decides to install (proftp, apache, etc etc etc) there'll be configuration he'll need to do.
[06:39] <ibrahim-kasem> tensorpudding, uRock thank you very much guys.
[06:40] <uRock> no problem
[06:40] <xangua> ibrahim-kasem: only 3Bb¿¿ better stay with 32 bits OS
[06:40] <xangua> gb*
[06:40] <joebobjoe> Viking667: gotcha
[06:40] <ibrahim-kasem> xangua,  yes 3gb and I have updated to lucid from 9.10 32 bit
[06:41] <uRock> ibrahim-kasem, if it ain't broke, then there is no need to fix it, unless you're bored.
[06:44] <cambosandman> How can I completely remove all traces of kubuntu from ubuntu?
[06:44] <uRock> fresh install
[06:45] <xangua> !puregnome | cambosandman
[06:45] <joebobjoe> cant you just use aptitude to safetlyremove kubuntu meta package
[06:45] <ibrahim-kasem> uRock,  I am using terminal client to connect to a windows server machine but I am being disconnected  automatically :(
[06:46] <xangua> joebobjoe: since is just a metpackage.......it won't remove anything
[06:46] <joebobjoe> zangua: that sucks
[06:48] <sreeju>  "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?"  showing like this in terminal ,what to do?
[06:48] <xangua> sreeju: have you tried to do what the message says¿
[06:49] <cambosandman> thanks xangua and our favourite bot
[06:49] <sreeju> how to run fix-missing
[06:49] <So_Confused> DynDns. Trying to route firefox on my desktop through the ssh tunnel to my laptop. I entered the dyndns addy (my.sshthing.com port 8080) in the firefox network settings, but I get a connection refused.
[06:49] <joebobjoe> aptitude --fix-missing
[06:49] <joebobjoe> ?
[06:49] <xangua> apt-get --fix-missing
[06:52] <kmels> Is it possible to bind the keys M-b, M-f, M-backspace, C-E, etc. (like in emacs) to any ubuntu application? e.g. in OpenOffice
[06:53] <tensorpudding> kmels: No.
[06:53] <tensorpudding> kmels: Very few applications support rebinding.
[06:54] <So_Confused> bbiab
[06:54] <kmels> tensorpudding, ok, cheers.
[06:55] <sreeju> no, when i typed that command to fix missing some error came
[06:56] <sreeju> that command is not right i think
[06:59] <sreeju> please reply me
[07:00] <So_Confused> Trying FoxyProxy with the dyndns addy to tunnel all my web traffic through my laptop. The ssh tunnel is working but I get an error when trying to browse through the proxy. Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections.
[07:00] <joebobjoe> sreeju: what error
[07:01] <sreeju> sreeju@sreeju-desktop:~$ apt-get --fix-missing
[07:01] <sreeju> apt 0.7.25.3ubuntu7 for i386 compiled on Apr 15 2010 04:30:22
[07:01] <sreeju> Usage: apt-get [options] command
[07:01] <sreeju>        apt-get [options] install|remove pkg1 [pkg2 ...]
[07:01] <sreeju>        apt-get [options] source pkg1 [pkg2 ...]
[07:01] <sreeju> apt-get is a simple command line interface for downloading and
[07:01] <FloodBot2> sreeju: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <ibrahim-kasem> how can i know if i am using the latest version of nvidia drivers ?
[07:05] <sreeju> please help me
[07:05] <joebobjoe> sreeju: sudo aptitude -f
[07:05] <Alazare> anyone know of a way to have ubuntu 10.04 lucid automount any internal drive as i swap drives alot  (use bitdefender nix version to scan drives) it would make things so much easier
[07:05] <mattyb> nope
[07:06] <mattyb> h
[07:06] <mattyb> hi
[07:07] <sacarlson> Alazare:  i think you need to look at modifiing you /etc/fstab file
[07:07] <Alazare> yea but as i swap drives if i have a drive in fstab it would stall my boot if its not connected
[07:08] <sacarlson> Alazare: it seems mine are already auto mount all I did is make sure the disk wasn't in the fstab file
[07:09] <sacarlson> Alazare: maybe my user has privliage to mount things?
[07:09] <Alazare> well it will show the drive
[07:09] <Alazare> it isnt physically moutned tho till a file is first accessed on the drive
[07:09] <Devilinops> anyone know if there is an instaler for 3d max or maya or should i just set it up thru wine?
[07:09] <sacarlson> Alazare:  it only mounts when I use nautilus to access it
[07:10] <_pingu> Do I have ot install the lpr and/or the cupswrapper driver for a printer ?
[07:10] <sacarlson> Alazare:  so you want it to mount as soon as it connects like a usb flash or cd?
[07:10] <Alazare> sacarlson:  yes, that is correct but my problem in lies, i have 2 sata ports on my motherboard, my boot / programs drive and my data drive with all my movies,
[07:11] <Alazare> my data drive is frequently removed, in place for a client's drive thats  infested with viruses etc
[07:11] <Alazare> if i edit fstab
[07:11] <Alazare> and go to boot with the customers drive in
[07:11] <Alazare> it stalls the boot and wont let me go any further because fstab reports an error
[07:11] <Alazare> cant skip cant go past home cant collect 200 dollars
[07:11] <Devilinops> pingu not shere if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678407 this is what i used to install my printer
[07:11] <Alazare> then i have to boot up via live cd live usb etc
[07:11] <Alazare> redit the fstab
[07:11] <Alazare> to remove the drive
[07:12] <Alazare> as you can tell this is very frustrating
[07:12] <Alazare> now the reason i want it to always be mounted is because my music and stuff is on that drive
[07:12] <sacarlson> Alazare:  I've had that problem also but I just hit cntl-d to continue boot
[07:12] <Alazare> if i add music to rythmbox's library or mythbuntu etc and i fire it up and the drive isnt there etc it will wipe the library
[07:13] <Alazare> thats what i did too but since 10.04 it doesnt work now..
[07:15] <sacarlson> Alazare: i guess if you are removing and replacing sda disk there would be no way to get around your problem.  can't you just be sure you are changing sdb or sdc?
[07:16] <Alazare> here i guess the easiest way to explain things is, you know in windows
[07:16] <Alazare> when you connect an internal drive
[07:16] <Alazare> it says new drive foudn and instantly gives it a letter
[07:16] <Alazare> thats what i want
[07:16] <i_is_broke> is ati getting any better with there video ?
[07:16] <Alazare> no
[07:17] <joebobjoe> i heard the nvidia linux drivers are better, bet the ati ones are open
[07:17] <i_is_broke> what nvidia card is pretty easy and good to set up?
[07:17] <sacarlson> Alazare:  ya that's how our flash disk also work so maybe look at /etc/fstab and see how they are configured
[07:17] <xangua> i_is_broke: ¿¿
[07:17] <Alazare> i guess i could do a shortcut in home, add it to auto start, and make the shortcut direct itself to nautilus /media/datadrive/testfile.txt
[07:17] <Alazare> then it would auto start the drive long as its there
[07:18] <i_is_broke> or does someone know of a place that rates them??
[07:18] <sacarlson> Alazare:  that sounds posible
[07:18] <Alazare> and not have to mess with fstab
[07:18] <Alazare> its just fstab foobars my boot if its not connected
[07:18] <sacarlson> Alazare:  well the cd drive is in fstab also and it's not always there
[07:18] <Alazare> the drive itself is
[07:19] <Alazare> but the media isnt
[07:19] <Alazare> thats the diffrence
[07:19] <Devilinops> is there anyway to still get 9.10 server edition i dont like 10.04
[07:19] <sacarlson> Alazare:  flash drives are the same also they aren't there until they are there and mount as soon as installed.  they must have fstab entry
[07:20] <Alazare> see thats the problem they arent tho...
[07:20] <Alazare> there has to be somewhere else in the files
[07:20] <Alazare> since usb is hotswapable
[07:20] <sacarlson> Alazare:  ok I just checked and I'm wrong no entry for usb or cd
[07:20] <Alazare> and sata drives are too
[07:20] <Alazare> why dont internals just mount as soon as there seen
[07:21] <sacarlson> ya that's what you want hotswap
[07:21] <Alazare> yes sacarlson
[07:21] <Sickler> if i but 2 ssd and i install ubuntu on one and windows on the other will grub2 recognize both of them???
[07:21] <Sickler> buy*
[07:22] <joebobjoe> does ubuntu support TRIM?
[07:22] <terBot> I'm getting insmod: error inserting 'dmodule.ko': -1 Invalid parameters. what does it mean?
[07:22] <kk_hacker> hello, can some one tell me how I can run internet explorer 8 in wine on Ubuntu 10.04 (lucid)?
[07:22] <Alazare> Sickler: why not just install windows and ubuntu on the same one? and buy a magnet drive for a data drive?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> joebobjoe:  ive heard it does. but thats a relatively new feature.
[07:22] <Alazare> save yourself money and hassle
[07:22] <liubo> hlello
[07:23] <liubo> hello
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> kk_hacker:  basically. You dont. i think IE6 is as high as is suppored by wine
[07:23] <liubo> who want to learn chinese?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> !ies4linux
[07:23] <Sickler> alazare: bc the drives are only 60gb and i want enough 4 programs on both
[07:23] <Alazare> 120gigs worth of programs?
[07:24] <kk_hacker> Dr_Willis: not even ie 7?
[07:24] <ibrahim-kasem> how to activate video call with emesene ?
[07:24] <MaRk-I> !ot | liubo
[07:24] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: wow I didn't know you can install IE in wine.  I wonder if it would work with ruby watir
[07:24] <Alazare> well you could install ubuntu,windows on the same drive, with programs, fstab the second drive long as you never remove it your fine,
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> kk_hacker:  No idea. I cant see any reason for me to ever want to run IE under wine.
[07:24] <Alazare> or
[07:24] <Alazare> raid them in your bios
[07:24] <Alazare> and there just 1 drive
[07:24] <liubo> hi
[07:25] <xangua> ibrahim-kasem: webcam support is really bad, there will be better support for it in emesene2
[07:25] <rezolute> IE should never be heard of in a place like this.
[07:25] <rezolute> it is unholy
[07:25] <Sickler> alazare: i dont want to raid ssd as it will lose trim support, i just want to know if grub2 will reconize ubuntu and windows from 2 diff drives
[07:25] <kk_hacker> Dr_Willis:  even I hait it and is a rather stupid thing.  but some dirty politics here in india has started a digital mafia.  They make sites in a way that they only behave properly in IE.
[07:25] <ibrahim-kasem> xangua,  what client should I be using if i want to make a vedio call ?
[07:26] <joebobjoe> DR_Willis: "At the moment, Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't support Trim as support is coming in the next kernel, which will be out after the final release of Lucid Lynx." http://blog.burlock.org/ubuntu/183-review-of-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-1004
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> kk_hacker:  under linux then you use IE6. or try to fake the useragent in Firefox and see if the site behaves
[07:26] <sacarlson> kk_hacker:  I had one of my banks refuse to let me access without IE but I was able to fool it with a firefox seting
[07:26] <Alazare> Sickler: in all honesty i have no clue, as thats not how must people install
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> joebobjoe:  may bee stuff ive been reading in 10.10 then.  or been in some testing ppa's - ive been reading some benchmarks on it.  I cant afford a SDD anyway.
[07:27] <kk_hacker> rezolute: yes it is unholi
[07:27] <Alazare> Sickler: your best bet would be to use to old drives and find out first
[07:27] <kk_hacker> rezolute:  but there is a lot of digital terrorisom going on to restrict the digital freedom of users
[07:27] <Alazare> Sickler:  maybe 2 old ide drives or something
[07:27] <kk_hacker> Dr_Willis:  yes I tryed faking the agent
[07:27] <xangua> ibrahim-kasem: skype, ekiga -their own account-  empathy, pidgin - this last two only with xmpp account -
[07:27] <kk_hacker> Dr_Willis:  ok, then how can I run IE 6 in wine?
[07:27] <joebobjoe> Dr_Willis: ironically TRIM support will make SSD's more affordable, since MLC performance will be almost on par with SLC...well relatively
[07:28] <Alazare> Sickler:  it might not see them at first but im sure if you updated grub in nix  manualy in the cfg file im sure it will work then
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> kk_hacker:  see the bots 'ies4linux' fatoid. I DONT use ie in linux.. so thats the extent of my knowledge basically
[07:28] <Alazare> Sickler: as all you have to point it to is the dev/sd* of the drive
[07:28] <ibrahim-kasem> xangua, thank you very much.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> joebobjoe:  i will belive it when i see it. :)
[07:28] <ibrahim-kasem> xangua, that was helpful
[07:28] <ibrahim-kasem> xangua, can I run Kmess on gnome ?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  you can run kde apps on gnome and visa versa of course.
[07:29] <Sickler> alazare: from what i hear from several ppl is that it is possible, its just a big step to move from the price of one ssd to two
[07:29] <xangua> ibrahim-kasem: sure, you will need to install kde libraries if it's needed
[07:29] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, thank you I will install it now.
[07:30] <joebobjoe> Dr_Willis: 5 years, youll be all SSD
[07:30] <ibrahim-kasem> xangua, but I don't think video call is supported with Kmess as well
[07:30] <Alazare> Sickler:  in fact i know its possible i was just looking at /default/grub
[07:31] <reggi> hello all
[07:31] <Sickler> alazare: sweet, i might go ahead and buy two ssd drives while on sale
[07:31] <Alazare> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
[07:31] <Alazare> menuentry "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (on /dev/sda1)" {
[07:31] <reggi> would someone help me with a noob question regarding compiling?
[07:31] <Alazare> thats the line to my xp partition
[07:32] <Alazare> so if it was on a diffrent drive it would be /dev/sda2
[07:32] <reggi> please?
[07:32] <xangua> !ask | reggi
[07:32] <joebobjoe> reggi: just ask it
[07:32] <reggi> ooh sorry
[07:32] <reggi> ok
[07:32] <joebobjoe> np
[07:33] <Alazare> can i ask a question
[07:33] <reggi> i'm trying to compile something called OpenSceneGraph, if I copy the source files to my desktop and then run ./configure, make, then make install, where does it install the 'installed program'?
[07:33] <Alazare> !ask | alazare
[07:33] <joebobjoe> reggi: whereever OpenSceneGraph tells it to
[07:34] <reggi> oh ok
[07:34] <Sickler>  im confused.... i thought ubuntu supported trim but this website says otherwise http://blog.burlock.org/ubuntu/183-review-of-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-1004
[07:34] <MaRk-I> reggi: depends on the make file... could be /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[07:34] <reggi> thanks joebobjoe
[07:34] <joebobjoe> np
[07:34] <joebobjoe> Sickler: supposedly 10.10 will
[07:35] <Sickler> joebobjoe:thats not what the site says
[07:35] <joebobjoe> Sickler: link?
[07:35] <reggi> so there is also an 'old' version of OpenSceneGraph already installed using synaptic. Would I have to uninstall that before installing (compiling) the latest version?
[07:35] <nits> wow the terminal is awesome! :P
[07:35] <joebobjoe> reggi: not usually
[07:35] <reggi> or does the compiled version 'upgrade' the existing 'old' version.
[07:35] <MaRk-I> reggi: yes
[07:35] <reggi> damn!
[07:35] <Sickler> joebobjoe: yea http://blog.burlock.org/ubuntu/183-review-of-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-1004
[07:36] <reggi> that is where i've gone wrong then.
[07:36] <reggi> sigh
[07:36] <reggi> well thanks for helping me folks
[07:36] <reggi> i'm an ol'skool windows tech trying to get my head around linux and ubuntu
[07:36] <So_Confused> Trying FoxyProxy with the dyndns addy to tunnel all my web traffic through my laptop. The ssh tunnel is working but I get an error when trying to browse through the proxy. Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections.
[07:36] <reggi> and it's great to get questions answered by folks like you.
[07:37] <_pingu> I want to install drivers for a Brother 7030 printer: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#DCP-7030  But they are for i386, and I have AMD64. What should I do?
[07:37] <reggi> thanks joebobjoe and MaRk-I
[07:37] <joebobjoe> np
[07:37] <MaRk-I> reggi: yw
[07:37] <joebobjoe> Sickler: yeah i know, ive seent that post, let me dive into the release notes
[07:37] <ibrahim-kasem> is there a program that i can use to access blocked sites in my network like facebook ? instead of adding a proxy manually?
[07:38] <Sickler> joebobjoe: k
[07:39] <loculinux> estoy comensando en el mundo de linux
[07:39] <MaRk-I> !es | loculinux
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  by  'my network' you mean your work network?  or one at your home?
[07:39] <loculinux> pero quisiera saber como ejecutar photoshop porque lo necesito
[07:40] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, my isp provider doesn't allow us to browse facebook so I have to add a proxy manually :(
[07:40] <loculinux> #ubuntu-es
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> that seems like somnthing odd for an ISP to do.
[07:40] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, and the proxy stops working after two days so I have to search for another one
[07:41] <loculinux> como usar photoshop en ubuntu
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> could try TOR i guess..
[07:42] <reggi> could someone please direct me to a tutorial about 'how to compile'? I'd like to understand what happens in each process of the ./configure, make, and make install, processes.
[07:42] <reggi> (wiki, online help etc)
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> !compile | reggi
[07:42] <reggi> !compile
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> 'read' what the bot said...
[07:42] <reggi> lol
[07:42] <Nebulosa> reggi: ./configure&&make&&make install :)
[07:43] <reggi> oh ubutto is the bot - right got it...
[07:43] <reggi> thanks Dr_Willis  just what i'm looking for
[07:43] <joebobjoe> Sickler: TRIM support is only available in the 2.6.33 kernel i believe
[07:43] <joebobjoe> Sickler: so yeah it should be in the next release
[07:44] <MaRk-I> !manual > reggi
[07:44] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, what I am asking for is an application like ultra surf or cc proxy , http tunnel .
[07:44] <MaRk-I> reggi: you could read that too plenty of stuff in there
[07:44] <Sickler> joebobjoe: :(
[07:45] <joebobjoe> Sickler: its only two months
[07:45] <reggi> thanks MaRk-I this is what i've been looking for i think.
[07:45] <deostroll> hi my lucid lynx is getting stuck @ the login screen...I always hve 2 restart, go into recovery mode, and start gnome via shell...
[07:45] <Sickler> joebobjoe: what literature did u use to come to that concusion
[07:45] <deostroll> is this a known bug?
[07:45] <joebobjoe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/571476
[07:45] <mast`> is it possible to just install KDE, from gnome, from the package manager and then just pick between kde and gnome at boot? or is it a bit more complicated than that?
[07:45] <joebobjoe> Sickler: get the link?
[07:46] <Sickler> joebobjoe:yes
[07:46] <bazhang> mast`, kubuntu-desktop
[07:46] <MaRk-I> mast`: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktopt                      and yes at login you have a choice to which one you want to use
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> mast`:  GDM login screen has a menu to select...
[07:46] <MaRk-I> mast`: oops kubuntu-desktop
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> mast`:  the only annoyance is you may get redundant/extra cluttered programs in the menus
[07:46] <mast`> oh, nice. I was hoping it was gonna be just a matter of installing something from aptitude
[07:47] <mast`> thanks :)
[07:47] <deostroll> hi my lucid lynx is getting stuck @ the splash screen (prior to login)...I always hve 2 restart, go into recovery mode, and start gnome via shell...
[07:48] <ibrahim-kasem> is there an application that I can use to browse the blocked sites by my isp ?
[07:48] <sacarlson> deostroll: so you can boot in single user mode?
[07:49] <deostroll> sacarlson, didn't understand question? single user mode?
[07:49] <lifetoward> Hi folks I have one for you related to type handling files via SMB... anyway care to hear it?
[07:50] <sacarlson> deostroll: I guess recover mode single user is the same.  so you can get into X gui envirment manualy?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem: could try TOR i guess..
[07:51] <deostroll> sacarlson, yes I type startx in the shell to start X and gnome...
[07:52] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, where can i download it from ? i can't find tor in the software center
[07:52] <sacarlson> deostroll: so maybe you can look in /var/log/syslog and see what error you might of had at boot
[07:53] <sacarlson> deostroll: sounds like a driver problem or maybe a disk that's still in /etc/fstab that it gets stuck on
[07:53] <enix316> i dual boot on this box and i want to merge my vista partiton into the ubuntu filesystem. i have messed with partitions and filesystems befor but never with the built in disk utility in ubuntu 10.04. is this utillty able to do this? is there a better option in the repos?
[07:54] <sacarlson> deostroll: does sound and network still work when you startx
[07:54] <johan> anyone who knows how t o communicate under modbus with the millenium 3 from crouzet?
[07:54] <deostroll> sacarlson, yes...they don't hve a prob...
[07:54] <lifetoward> Situation: I have my Lucid linux attaching as a client to a Mac OS X Snow Leopard serving SMB; I have files there of various OpenDoc format types, such as blah.ods. I can see these files there in Nautilus. If I double click blah.ods it launches Archive Manager and I get an empty archive. If I right click the file the primary choice to launch is archive manager while Open Office is not there. The Type of the file according to "List" vie
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  its not in the repos. Theres a ubuntu wiki page on it.
[07:56] <[seb]> hello?
[07:56] <MaRk-I> ibrahim-kasem: http://www.marcus-furius.com/?p=189
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !hi | [seb]
[07:57] <sacarlson> deostroll: maybe just a bad install of gdm?
[07:57] <ibrahim-kasem> MaRk-I, thank you i will  read it
[07:57] <sacarlson> deostroll: no errors in the text at boot time the indicate a problem?
[07:57] <MaRk-I> ibrahim-kasem: here's another one http://www.webupd8.org/2009/09/how-to-install-tor-in-ubuntu-debian.html   and yw
[07:58] <mrb> Hey,, Could anyone help me getting connected to openVPN with the NetworkManger on Lucid !
[07:58] <deostroll> sacarlson, i seem 2 notice that the OS doesn't do it routine hard disk checkups like it normally does...can this b the issue?
[07:58] <[seb]> i have a little problem -_-
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> deostroll:  should check every 30 mounts I belive...
[07:59] <[seb]> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/474827/
[07:59] <[seb]> why isn't working?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> [seb]:  and a summary of the problem is?
[07:59] <sacarlson> mrb: I never got openvpn to work with networkmanager I always used the terminal
[08:00] <[seb]> i never saw this before -_-
[08:00] <sacarlson> mrb: or I would just create a script that I setup on the control panel with custom setup
[08:00] <deostroll> sacarlson, do u mean the text I see in recovery mode...?
[08:01] <sacarlson> deostroll: yes before it stops don't you see text that indicate the error it has?
[08:01] <[seb]> Dr_Willis any idea?
[08:02] <joebobjoe> are there any public logs of this channel?
[08:02] <sacarlson> deostroll: maybe it tries a few kernel entry before it stops?
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> [seb]:  and a summary of the problem is? Dont expect people to go to a web site just to read the actual problem.
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> joebobjoe:  yes.
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> !logs | joebobjoe
[08:02] <joebobjoe> thanks
[08:02] <ethrealite> Hey everyone one guess what? I'm just another idiot that can't get sound working.  pate bin http://pastebin.com/sdtng6tF
[08:02] <meke> guys, I am downloading ubuntu currently and will start using linux for the first time. Here is a stupid question. Will I be able to access the files I saved with windows from ubuntu?
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> meke:  yes.
[08:03] <deostroll> sacarlson, yes there ws something...can't rem wht it exactly is...it says it tried mounting the hard disk more than 34 times, hence its forcing to do something...
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> meke: linux can access your windows partitions.
[08:03] <sacarlson> deostroll: lets see when it does start working what you have ended up with:  do a uname -a
[08:03] <joebobjoe> when will be the day that everything is simply an upstart process?
[08:04] <nits> meke: Linux can access Windows partitions but Windows can't access Linux partitions :D
[08:04] <[seb]> Dr_Willis my english is poor so i'll try to be clear: on my web server i have a .tar.gz file and i tried to untar or gunzip it but i get an error message that i never saw before... the file isn't corrupted
[08:04] <deostroll> sacarlson, but then I somehow get out of it...since I am in recovery mode...the recovery mode menus turn up...
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> joebobjoe:  actually all the sysv services are now launched by a upstart process that sort of 'emulates' sysv
[08:04] <sacarlson> deostroll: ok so how many partitions do we have on this computer?
[08:04] <mrb> thx guyz
[08:04] <[seb]> Dr_Willis i've downloaded it on windows and no problem to uncompress it and the file are ok
[08:04] <meke> Good to know, can't wait to try out ubuntu
[08:05] <[seb]> Dr_Willis when i try it on my server i get this error message
[08:05] <sacarlson> deostroll: now I understand it is having problems mounting something and fails
[08:05] <joebobjoe> Dr_Willis: interesting
[08:05] <[seb]> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[08:05] <[seb]> tar: Child returned status 1
[08:05] <[seb]> tar: ArrÃªt avec code d'Ã©chec Ã  cause des erreurs prÃ©cÃ©dentes
[08:05] <mrb> the thing is i was trying to make giwbber runs over VPN as i can't get it to get authenticated due the website banned in my country
[08:05] <MaRk-I> !hdaintel | ethrealite
[08:05] <sacarlson> deostroll: so if it's not needed we can just remove the disk that has the problem from your /etc/fstab file
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> [seb]:  your tar arguments maybe wrong. try the 'unp' command. it can unpack most everything in a smart way
[08:06] <SuNk8> hey people, just wondering if it's possible to use brasero to split a big file and burn as disks?
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> [seb]:  or your file got currupted transfering it from windows
[08:06] <deostroll> sacarlson, well, I hve 2 hard disks!!!
[08:06] <[seb]> Dr_Willis unp lol_8.tar.gz?
[08:07] <sacarlson> deostroll: well I think one is failing to mount.  one has windows?
[08:07] <[seb]> Dr_Willis the files are correct i use it in my eggy running on the same server
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> !info unp | [seb]
[08:08] <deostroll> sacarlson, the result of uname -a ->http://paste.ubuntu.com/474832/
[08:08] <[seb]> i also d/l it to my computer (windows) to analyse all the files and everything is ok
[08:08] <SuNk8> Dr_Willis, , just wondering if it's possible to use brasero to split a big file and burn as disks?
[08:08] <deostroll> sacarlson, had windows 1ce...now its over written w/ ubuntu, an older version...
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> SuNk8:  proberly is. but gettting them back to one big file may be the issue
[08:08] <Nebulosa> [seb]: test file by command - "file lol_8.tar.gz" i think it's tar not gz
[08:09] <sacarlson> deostroll: ok that looks good but what's on that secound drive?
[08:09] <deostroll> sacarlson, ubuntu 8.10
[08:09] <Nebulosa> [seb]: when u did tar cvjf u get just tar-archive
[08:10] <[seb]> Dr_Willis worked fine with unp
[08:10] <sacarlson> deostroll: so now it's just used as an extX data disk?  I think for now we should just remove that entry from your /etc/fstab
[08:10] <[seb]> no error message(s)
[08:10] <sacarlson> deostroll: then if that's the problem we will eather fix it or format it
[08:10] <Nebulosa> [seb]: plz read my msgs..
[08:10] <lifetoward> I have my Lucid linux attaching as a client to a Mac OS X Snow Leopard serving SMB; I have files there of various OpenDoc format types, such as blah.ods. I can see these files there in Nautilus. If I double click blah.ods it launches Archive Manager and I get an empty archive. If I right click the file the primary choice to launch is archive manager while Open Office is not there. The Type of the file according to "List" view or "Prope
[08:11] <[seb]> Nebulosa i'm sorry but what's the difference with a tar archive?
[08:11] <[seb]> Nebulosa i tried to compress a folder (.tar.gz) what i did wrong?
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> [seb]:  sounds to me like your options to extract them dont math up with the options you used to make it.
[08:12] <So_Confused> Trying FoxyProxy with the dyndns addy to tunnel all my web traffic through my laptop. The ssh tunnel is working but I get an error when trying to browse through the proxy. Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections.
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> !tar
[08:12] <Nebulosa> [seb]: u should do this tar cvjf lol_8.tar lol_8 | gzip > lol_8.tar.gz
[08:12] <[seb]> to make it i used "tar cvjf" and to extract "tar zxvf"
[08:13] <deostroll> sacarlson, this is wht /etc/fstab looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/474833/
[08:13] <Nebulosa> [seb]: but u want unpack tar archive like tar.gz
[08:13] <Nebulosa> [seb]: catch it?
[08:14] <[seb]> Nebulosa lol not sure but :\
[08:15] <sacarlson> deostroll: does your error say anything about this device? /dev/scd0
[08:15] <Nebulosa> [seb]: tar makes only tar archives but not tar.gz
[08:15] <[seb]> ok
[08:15] <Nebulosa> tar | gzip >
[08:15] <deostroll> sacarlson, can't remember...if I remove both the entries from fstab wht will happen?
[08:15] <Nebulosa> and after tar zxf
[08:15] <[seb]> so i have to tar and then gunzip
[08:16] <Nebulosa> [seb]: yes
[08:16] <sacarlson>  deostroll:  try comment out the last line with that /dev/scd0
[08:16] <sacarlson>  deostroll:  just put a # in front of it
[08:16] <chris062689> Anyone know about KDE 4.5's new blur effects?  I hear certain hardware isn't compatable with it?
[08:17] <ibrahim-kasem> MaRk-I, I could not install tor using the guide can you help me please ?
[08:17] <RealOpty> anyone use rsync?
[08:17] <makson_> what should permissions be on home directory for a user i get this errpr when ssh in to my box Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/test1
[08:17] <deostroll> sacarlson, isn't that something to do with the cdroM?
[08:18] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, yes what do you need?
[08:18] <sacarlson> deostroll: yes
[08:18] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, ok heres what i want to do:
[08:18] <sacarlson> deostroll: I have no entry for my cdrom on my copy
[08:18] <magicianlord> what's the best lightweight media player
[08:18] <Nebulosa> magicianlord: mplayer
[08:18] <sacarlson> deostroll: worst case you won't have a cd drive for one boot
[08:19] <[seb]> Nebulosa and to extract it "tar zxvf lol_8.tar.gz" ?
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> magicianlord:  media as in video ? or audio?
[08:19] <nits> magicianlord: if u are looking for a cli player - mplayer is good, if u want a full fletched, but superfast music player try quodlibet
[08:19] <deostroll> sacarlson, so this means I can't boot from my cd drive?
[08:19] <Nebulosa> [seb]: yes. tar can only extract gz
[08:19] <magicianlord> i want something that installs in under 50mb
[08:19] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, on one machine i have a folder that contains files that im commonly editing. id like this to be the host
[08:19] <magicianlord> like vlc media player, but less disk space
[08:19] <nits> magicianlord: definitely quodlibet, and it's in python, superlight
[08:19] <magicianlord> k
[08:19] <sacarlson> deostroll: no your cd drive will still boot boot but when this patition boots you may not have a cd automounted
[08:20] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, and on the client end id like to keep those files updated on that side so i can compile the stuff over there.
[08:20] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, can you help me installing tor please ?
[08:20] <rww> makson_: your home directory shouldn't be world-writable, and your ~/.ssh directory shouldn't be world-readable
[08:20] <sacarlson> deostroll: you will still be able to manualy mount it
[08:20] <magicianlord> does quodlibet play video?
[08:20] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, I couldn't understand the guide.
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  not really. I just follolwed the TOR wiki page and last id id that was over a year ago.
[08:20] <rww> (and with appropriate ownership)
[08:20] <ttyX> magicianlord: tinycore linux?
[08:21] <magicianlord> ttyX: no
[08:21] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, thnx again :)
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  all i recall doing was enabling some PPA's and instlling it.. then following the config directions. then dident like it.. so i removed it a day or 2 later
[08:21] <sacarlson> deostroll: I also don't see your secound drive in here.
[08:21] <[seb]> Nebulosa i tried it but makes nothing
[08:21] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, im reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync atm
[08:21] <RealOpty> i see that there is a gui app for rsync
[08:21] <[seb]> Nebulosa i want to extract (like unzip on windows) this folder
[08:21] <RealOpty> will this work even if im not logged in?
[08:22] <Nebulosa> [seb]: on windows use 7zip
[08:22] <_pingu> locate .ttf | grep -i times prints nothing under 10.04. locate .ttf | grep -i helv not, too. Where are alle the fonts like Helvetica, Times ENw Roman..?
[08:22] <[seb]> Nebulosa no, on linux
[08:22] <Nebulosa> it knows .tar.gz
[08:22] <sacarlson> deostroll: what we should also do is see where it did mount # mount
[08:22] <Nebulosa> [seb]: ok i can shows u..
[08:22] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, ok give me a sec to see what your looking at. there are a few good tutorials on the use of rsync. You can run rsync from your client system to pull the files
[08:22] <[seb]> on windows i use winrar to extract .tar.gz that works fine
[08:23] <nits> how do u search for a particular mp3 file on the system using the terminal can somebody tell me with an example please
[08:23] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, are your home directories encrypted? if so no you will have issues
[08:23] <RealOpty> Nope
[08:23] <_pingu> nits: locate filename
[08:24] <nits>  _pingu : already tried it's not showing up mp3 jus other kind of files
[08:24] <deostroll> sacarlson, wait...i log off n try to come back from another machine...2 min.
[08:24] <rww> nits: find ~/Music/ -iname somefile.mp3
[08:24] <sacarlson> deostroll: I also want to see what is mounted where with the mount comand
[08:24] <MaRk-I> _pingu: look for this package ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[08:24] <_pingu> nits: do sudo uodatedb and try the locate again
[08:24] <[seb]> Nebulosa lol_8.tar  lol_8.tar.gz
[08:24] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, ok then there should be no issue using rsync to maintain current files on the client system
[08:24] <[seb]> this is what i see
[08:24] <_pingu> nits: do sudo udatedb and try the locate again
[08:24] <_pingu> nits: do sudo updatedb and try the locate again
[08:24] <Nebulosa> [seb]: plz do this "file lol_8.tar.gz"
[08:24] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, k good
[08:25] <sacarlson> deostroll: maybe you moved the phisical plug position of your disk drives as of late?
[08:25] <[seb]> Nebulosa xplicit@Yoshi:~/test$ file lol_8.tar.gz
[08:25] <[seb]> lol_8.tar.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Sun Aug  8 03:17:11 2010
[08:25] <deostroll> sacarlson, yes, I am back
[08:25] <sacarlson> deostroll: maybe you moved the phisical plug position of your disk drives as of late?
[08:25] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, i've never used the gui with rsync but that screen shot looks promising doesnt it?
[08:25] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, ive used rsync to do this before but i forget how i did it.
[08:26] <deostroll> sacarlson, i hve 2 disks...but i manage them separately....
[08:26] <sacarlson> deostroll: I also want to see what is mounted where with the mount comand
[08:26] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, it does lol. but thats not necessary. im pretty good at cli
[08:26] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, kinda where i'm at. I'm using my laptop at the moment and not the desktop that has it scripted to transfer files to another computer for backup/redundancy purposes
[08:27] <deostroll> sacarlson, if I want to boot ubuntu 8.10, i boot frm tht hard disk from the bios it self...
[08:27] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, my goal is to compile my software faster. :)
[08:27] <oki-> is there a list of irc handles and developer names, or any way to contact devs via launchpad?
[08:27] <sacarlson> deostroll: ok well that will change the device names
[08:27] <joebobjoe> !log
[08:27] <deostroll> sacarlson, that is why u prob only find 1 entry
[08:28] <sacarlson> deostroll: not sure so how about that mount command results?
[08:28] <deostroll> sacarlson, nw i've commented wht u told and restarted, but it is still stuck...i'll restart and go to recovery...wait
[08:28] <_pingu> MaRk-I: ok, thanks. now I have Times... . Does sombody know a package for Helvetica?
[08:28] <oki-> oh launchpad has irc handles
[08:28] <JUON> ???
[08:29] <MaRk-I> _pingu: should be the same it downloads several types
[08:29] <JUON> Hello????
[08:29] <snowrichard> fsck on my 2TB drive is taking a while
[08:29] <oki-> JUON: hello how are you today
[08:30] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, so basicly i need the client to keep everything uptodate but dont upload anything to the host other than one folder.
[08:30] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, with -c you could skip unchanged files by comparing checksums. That should work well i would think.
[08:30] <deostroll> sacarlson, weird now it goes to the login prompt, i don't think the problem is fixed tho...nw wht do you want me to do?
[08:30] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, i'm trying to remember the switch to have it pull from the server and not upload
[08:30] <_pingu> MaRk-I: Helvetica is not part of ttf-mscorefonts-installer. Do you mean something else?
[08:30] <JUON> I'm fine and you???
[08:31] <sacarlson> deostroll: mount
[08:31] <sacarlson> deostroll: from a terminal the comand #mount
[08:31] <[seb]> Nebulosa any idea how can i extract it?
[08:32] <MaRk-I> _pingu: you're right I just checked the list... might be another package
[08:32] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, doh! lol its the way you order the systems in the command. i feel so dumb now i should have known that.
[08:32] <Nebulosa> [seb]: heh.. tar xf will works fine for me.. ever it's tar.gz.. tar xzvf works too)
[08:32] <ronny> hi
[08:32] <ronny> is there any ui to configure the services upstart is supposed to start?
[08:32] <JUON> hi
[08:33] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, i found a old script i used to use(i think?) take a peek.
[08:33] <[seb]> Nebulosa i did it
[08:33] <ibrahim-kasem> i am using this kernel on 10.04 is there a newer one ? 2.6.32-24-generic
[08:33] <[seb]> but i get nothing
[08:33] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, http://paste.ubuntu.com/474841/
[08:33] <preetam> can anybody tell me how to download the youtube videos in google chrome in ubuntu 10.04.
[08:33] <Nebulosa> [seb]: can i download archive?
[08:33] <[seb]> Nebulosa i still have lol_8.tar and lol_8.tar.gz
[08:33] <_pingu> MaRk-I: I search with KPackageKit for fonts, but it would take long to find one with Helvetica. And there is no match for that font. Do you know a better way to search?
[08:34] <Nebulosa> [seb]: what tar version u have?
[08:34] <_pingu> MaRk-I: I meant: There is no match for Helvetica.
[08:34] <jasonwryan> preetam: wait until it has fully buffered and then cp /tmp/Flash* /your/dir/file.flv
[08:35] <deostroll> sacarlson, this is wht mount said http://paste.ubuntu.com/474842/
[08:35] <[seb]> Nebulosa 1.22
[08:35] <deostroll> sacarlson, wrkin on 2 machines n networking via internet...so I'll b a little show with responding :)
[08:35] <deostroll> *slow
[08:36] <[seb]> Nebulosa can i notice you the url?
[08:36] <preetam> hai jasonwryan any application that can be downloaded
[08:36] <Nebulosa> yes
[08:36] <jasonwryan> preetam: youtube-dl
[08:37] <sacarlson> deostroll: it looks ok but maybe just unplug your secound drive and see if it works.  if it does just reverse the position you plug them in
[08:38] <sacarlson> deostroll: maybe you can just disable one disk in bios
[08:38] <deostroll> sacarlson, disable in the bios...hw do u do that?
[08:38] <MaRk-I> _pingu: hhmm no idea ATM
[08:39] <sacarlson> deostroll: I would do it in hardware but I thought you played in the bios and knew
[08:40] <melfy> stupid motd keeps changing back wtf =(
[08:40] <sacarlson> deostroll: it is booting as sdb the secound drive so it's getting the grub from sda and I think that could mess it up
[08:41] <kuttan_> Hi all
[08:41] <pinPoint> anyone use the Chat Accounts... in ubuntu 10lts?
[08:41] <sacarlson> deostroll: but after boot it all seems to work so I'm not sure?
[08:42] <pinPoint> after a reboot/logout is never connects to my chat accounts.
[08:42] <pinPoint> why is that?
[08:42] <SwedeMike> !anyone | pinPoint
[08:42] <deostroll> sacarlson, restarting...only nw
[08:42] <sacarlson> deostroll: nw?
[08:43] <sacarlson> deostroll: one?
[08:43] <pinPoint> SwedeMike: can you answer my question then?
[08:43] <SwedeMike> pinPoint: I don't know.
[08:43] <usef> salam
[08:44] <deostroll> sacarlson, don't think its possible to do via bios?
[08:44] <deostroll> saca
[08:44] <sacarlson> deostroll: ok just phisicaly unplug the ubuntu 8.X drive to give it a try with just one
[08:44] <deostroll> sacarlson, wait...
[08:46] <So_Confused> Anyone use DynDns?
[08:46] <joebobjoe> So_Confused: i used to :)
[08:46] <Slart> So_Confused: yes, I hear it's quite popular
[08:46] <pico1234> anyone know how to connect to a remote terminal application?  I can't use the keyboard at the moment.
[08:47] <sacarlson> So_Confused: I think so the dynamic dns server?
[08:47] <joebobjoe> pico1234: ssh?
[08:47] <sacarlson> So_Confused: so I can access my computer from the outside world
[08:47] <pico1234> I can ssh but how do I access the terminal app?
[08:47] <So_Confused> sacarlson: yes. I can't get firefox to use the dyndns addy as a proxy. I've an ssh tunnel running to the laptop (server)
[08:48] <So_Confused> sacarlson: that's what I want to do, but for a proxy
[08:48] <Pap1kott> hi all
[08:48] <Pap1kott> ðóññêèå åñòü?:)
[08:48] <joebobjoe> are there any benefits to using passive ftp?
[08:48] <sacarlson> So_Confused: I have to setup my adsl to forward all trafic port to my static set nat address inside my local network
[08:48] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, thats a lot of code LOL its a little late for me to be looking at that much code. but essentially i think this is what your looking for from the command line. rsync -avz -e ssh remoteuser@remotehost:/remote/dir /this/dir/
[08:49] <Pap1kott> so many peoples here
[08:49] <kuttan> hi all
[08:49] <deostroll> sacarlson, wht is the indication that it is disabled?
[08:49] <So_Confused> sacarlson: that confused me
[08:49] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, cool thanks. i think this script is gonna work too, testing it out now.
[08:49] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, i did see a line or 2 in there that looks like its getting around to running that command.
[08:49] <sacarlson> So_Confused: I never did what your doing I just ssh into my system or go to my apache2 server that runs on it
[08:50] <ibrahim-kasem> who is using hp laptop ?
[08:50] <sacarlson> deostroll: well after boot if you go to terminal and do a fdisk -l  you should not see it
[08:50] <Mr_Sonoma> RealOpty, basically the command is rsync [the options you want] remotehost:location destinationhost:location to pull from your server
[08:50] <kuttan_> I like my hp laptop with ubuntu 10.04
[08:51] <ibrahim-kasem> kuttan hi I am using hp dv6 1045ee
[08:51] <sacarlson> So_Confused:  can you already remote into your server from the outside internet?
[08:51] <kuttan_> brahim-kasem: why are you telling that ? anyway hope you like it
[08:52] <sacarlson> So_Confused:  that's what dynamic dns is for
[08:53] <So_Confused> sacarlson: I had someone test the ssh with port 8181 and it worked, but I can't figure out why firefox isn't being redirected with the dyndns addy as a proxy
[08:53] <ibrahim-kasem> I have an issue with the update manager, http://paste.ubuntu.com/474851/
[08:54] <_pingu> MaRk-I: Ok, thanks
[08:54] <sacarlson> So_Confused: did you forward all port or just 8181
[08:54] <rww> ibrahim-kasem: copy the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[08:54] <So_Confused> sacarlson: just 8181
[08:55] <deostroll> sacarlson, opening up the box is going to take a while...
[08:55] <sacarlson> So_Confused: ok then if you want apach2 to use 8181 you would have to set that up also
[08:55] <sacarlson> So_Confused: apach2 default to use port 80
[08:55] <ibrahim-kasem> rww, this is the contents of sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/474852/
[08:55] <So_Confused> sacarlson: :P
[08:56] <sacarlson> So_Confused: can't you just forward all and try it?
[08:57] <So_Confused> sacarlson: I don't know how to forward apache2.... don't even know what it is. Didn't hear about it until now.
[08:57] <rww> ibrahim-kasem: change "[ YOUR_DISTRO_VERSION]" on line 55 to "lucid", remove the lines with ’quotes’ in them, and consider reading TOR's setup guide more closely.
[08:57] <sacarlson> So_Confused: oh and firefox is also default to use port 80 unless you put a url like http//yoursite.com:8181
[08:58] <sacarlson> So_Confused: well apache2 is the other side of what your browser is looking at
[08:58] <So_Confused> sacarlson: in firefox prefs/Advanced/network/settings.... I read that after the ssh tunnel and ports are forwarded all I'd have to do is put in the dyndns addy as the proxy
[08:59] <So_Confused> sacarlson: isn't apache2 a web server?
[08:59] <sacarlson> So_Confused: yes
[08:59] <sacarlson> So_Confused: I can only help you with dyndns not your proxy
[09:00] <sacarlson> So_Confused: it sounds like you had it working since your friend got in with ssh
[09:00] <So_Confused> sacarlson: yes... it was nice to see I made some progress.
[09:00] <kuttan_>  
[09:01] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: dyndns just gives a name to your IP.... so basically you're proxying through your own IP?
[09:01] <sacarlson> So_Confused: I have played with some proxy in the past but I don't recall ever geting it to work.  it's hard to test when your always on the same side
[09:01] <So_Confused> sacarlson: yes it is
[09:02] <bihari> HI MaRk-I
[09:02] <kuttan_>  
[09:02] <MaRk-I> hello bihari
[09:02] <sacarlson> So_Confused: you kind of need two isp in the same location or maybe try setup a vpn so it apears you have two isp to test it
[09:02] <bihari> MaRk-I,  i have installed it the one use said to me :)
[09:02] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: no.... the dyndns addy is always redirected to my dynamic ip. So all I'd have to do is enter that dyndns addy instead of finding out what my ip is
[09:02] <bihari> but need some sort of more help :)
[09:03] <bihari> MaRk-I, can  i Pm you if you dont mind.
[09:03] <ibrahim-kasem> rww, is it correct ? deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org lucid main
[09:03] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: I understand that, but you want to proxy your own IP
[09:03] <sacarlson> So_Confused: why do you need a proxy?
[09:03] <MaRk-I> bihari: ok
[09:03] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: ah... no. Right now all comps are behind the same router. Going over seas and want to browse through my laptop proxy
[09:04] <sacarlson> So_Confused: I think I played with squid
[09:04] <ronny> again: anyone aware of a ui tool to configure upstart?
[09:04] <rww> ibrahim-kasem: yes
[09:04] <So_Confused> sacarlson: squid... I'll look into it
[09:05] <So_Confused> sacarlson: that looks like something I'd use if I were hosting a web site
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> ronny:  ive never seen one. Not a lot to confguring it really
[09:05] <Viking667> ronny: I can't say I've heard of one, and I just installed sysv-tools or -utils (can't remember which) and use a commandline
[09:05] <ibrahim-kasem> rww, thank you very much, I was about to format again
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> many services use the upstart /etc/init/ type configs. so a lot of the old sysv tools wont work with them
[09:06] <jastine> what are you all talking about?the system problem?
[09:07] <ronny> hum
[09:08] <kuttan_>   
[09:08] <deostroll> sacarlson, okay opened up the box  n removed the hdd
[09:09] <sacarlson> deostroll: and it works?
[09:09] <deostroll> sacarlson, no it doesn't
[09:09] <sacarlson> deostroll: same as before?
[09:09] <deostroll> sacarlson, it got stuck...i restarted...
[09:10] <sacarlson> deostroll: it gets stuck the same as before?
[09:10] <deostroll> sacarlson, yes
[09:10] <sacarlson> deostroll: ok I'm clueless
[09:11] <deostroll> sacarlson, wehn i restarted it went in clean tho
[09:11] <bullgard> http://princessleia.com/bitlbee.php: "You need register so that all your IM settings (passwords, contacts, etc) can be saved on the BitlBee server. It's important that you pick a good password so no one else can access your account. Register with this password using the register command: register <password>" On what computer is the BitlBee server?
[09:11] <sacarlson> deostroll: I thought from what you said you saw 34 retries on a mount that it must be a disk that fails to mount but now there are none
[09:11] <ohir> ronny: System->Admin->Services.
[09:12] <ronny> ohir: for some reason its missing here
[09:12] <ronny> brb
[09:12] <OpenSourceCode> Hello
[09:12] <sacarlson> deostroll: clean is that good?
[09:12] <ibrahim-kasem> after installing nvidia drivers on my laptop , ubuntu logo becomes big and ugly on the log in screen, can I fix this ?
[09:12] <OpenSourceCode> no
[09:12] <OpenSourceCode> Uninstall nvidia drivers
[09:12] <deostroll> sacarlson, clean? wht do u mean?
[09:13] <sacarlson> deostroll: maybe the disk just works sometime and just needs to be fixed?  ya clean you said clean what is clean?
[09:13] <ibrahim-kasem> OpenSourceCode,  but i need it for appearance options inside the os
[09:13] <shawnboy> I'm having the craziest time trying to record CD from cue sheet. Brasero and Gnomebaker both error saying "cdrdao was compiled without mp3 support." Can anyone help?
[09:13] <OpenSourceCode> Then you can't fix it
[09:13] <OpenSourceCode> why do you need it?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  install tyhe ubuntu-restricted-extras for mp3 support
[09:13] <ibrahim-kasem> OpenSourceCode, that would be great, do you know how ?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  at least i think that pulls in the proper packages
[09:14] <shawnboy> Dr_Willis, but I can already play MP3s. Doesn't that mean I already have them?
[09:14] <OpenSourceCode> Ibrahim, why do you need nvidia drivers?
[09:14] <sacarlson> deostroll:  you think the disk is just retrys out sometimes and after enuf tries it just works?
[09:14] <ibrahim-kasem> OpenSourceCode, I like the visual effects
[09:14] <shawnboy> Dr_Willis, I just verified. I have that package installed.
[09:15] <OpenSourceCode> Oh... Sorry, but you can't fix the logo at boot then.
[09:15] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: I think you want something like this... http://superuser.com/questions/156916/how-to-secure-firefox-traffic-dns-through-socks-proxy-under-ubuntu-10-04
[09:15] <shawnboy> seems to just be problem with cdrdao
[09:15] <ibrahim-kasem> OpenSourceCode, its okay thnx , I think I have this problem http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[09:15] <ronny> re
[09:15] <pepper_haze> I am trying to run virtual box on ubuntu, and it says I need to recompile the kernal, so how do you recompile the kernal?
[09:15] <OpenSourceCode> Try google it, maybe someone discovered how to fix that
[09:16] <OpenSourceCode> I don't use visual effects so...
[09:16] <sacarlson> deostroll: if you think that what it might be maybe boot a live cd and do an fsck /dev/sda1  or something like that
[09:16] <ibrahim-kasem> OpenSourceCode, yes I just did and I found this thank you very much http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[09:16] <OpenSourceCode> No problem. I hope you fix that
[09:17] <Slart> pepper_haze: you shouldn't need to recompile the kernel.. you just need a kernel module
[09:17] <ronny> ohir: any idea on figuring why it is missing? or what tool i need to invoke
[09:17]  * man8 hi . hola
[09:18] <deostroll1> sacarlson, hello I am the same person, deostroll
[09:19] <sacarlson> deostroll1:  ok
[09:19] <deostroll1> sacarlson, wht wer u trying to say
[09:19] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: Here's the link that started all of this with me. Mind you I DO have the tunnel running. But instead of using an ever changing ip addy for the proxy, I've registered at dyndns.com and the addy they gave me is always pointing to my dynamic ip. It's using THAT dyndns address as the proxy I can't figure out. http://lifehacker.com/software/ssh/geek-to-live--encrypt-your-web-browsing-session-wi
[09:19] <So_Confused> th-an-ssh-socks-proxy-237227.php
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  could be cdrdao dosent support  mp3 for legal reaons.. I never burn mp3 to cd any more. so havent trried it in ages
[09:19] <sacarlson> deostroll:  you think the disk is just retrys out sometimes and after enuf tries it just works?
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  may be some updated versions at medibuntu that does support mp3
[09:19] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: sorry... got cut off  http://lifehacker.com/software/ssh/geek-to-live--encrypt-your-web-browsing-session-with-an-ssh-socks-proxy-237227.php
[09:19] <shawnboy> Dr_Willis, FYI I may have figured out solution. I think I may have to install tiny package named cue2toc.
[09:19] <sacarlson> deostroll: if you think that what it might be maybe boot a live cd and do an fsck
[09:20] <shawnboy> Dr_Willis, the short description from aptitude show cue2toc is informative
[09:21] <LinuxGuy2009> If I start with a fresh installation, using the live CD as the source, is there a straight forward command/tool to strip all packages out and get to a minimal system, so that I can build it up from that point?
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> LinuxGuy2009:  not that i have ever seen or heard of.
[09:21] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: yes but the socks is configured for "localhost" meaning you can use 127.0.0.1:8080  once you have the connection established
[09:21] <kuttan_>  
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> LinuxGuy2009:  and i see tht asked (or similer questions asked) in here about once a week.  like 3 times today even.
[09:22] <[seb]> LinuxGuy2009 have you tried xubuntu?
[09:22] <wrektjet> hi all. im trying to create a dvd-r with data. i keep only getting the option to write image file even with the dvd in the drive. any ideas?
[09:22] <helpmelinux> would someone be able to help me with a question about livecds?
[09:22] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: and you need to start the ssh as:  ssh -ND             <<< note the D
[09:23] <deostroll1> sacarlson, i hve the 2nd hdd w/ ubuntu 8.10...should I boot via that n try wht u said...
[09:23] <CerNuNnos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:23] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: what does -ND stand for?
[09:23] <Viking667> ... though -D needs a port number after it.
[09:23] <Viking667> "man ssh" tells you why
[09:23] <LinuxGuy2009> [seb]: Yes and that is one of the reasons I need this stripped down functionality so I can make an offline repo DVD-R with XFCE, LXDE, KDE, and Gnome, and lots of software packaghes and build my system up custom. I just dont know how to do it. Or if its even possible.
[09:24] <helpmelinux> my understanding is that livecd let you know whether your hardware will work for a particular distribution. Is this correct?
[09:24] <sacarlson> deostroll1:  ya I guess that would be ok and find out what it mounts as then do a fsck /dev/sdXX on the ubuntu 10.04 disk
[09:24] <kuttan_>  
[09:24] <deostroll> sacarlson, k
[09:25] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: read that page where it says "update"  N tells ssh not to open an interactive window
[09:25] <MaRk-I> D for socks i believe
[09:25] <neo_> Hi :)
[09:25] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: kk...
[09:25] <helpmelinux> why can't i get a distro to install even though the livecd will work on my system?
[09:25] <Viking667> MaRk-I: -D means to do forwarding, I think. but you need to specify at least a port number after D
[09:26] <songer> hello
[09:27] <helpmelinux> i am trying to understand why a distro will not install on my system even though the livecd will run without a hitch on the same system. Any explainations?
[09:27] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: ssh -N -D 8181 user@192.168.2.3    Is that right? Because it's saying that it's trying to connect on port 22, and it's refused
[09:28] <abhijit> hi.
[09:29] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, hi :)
[09:29] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: each way I enter the command it's saying that port 22 is refusing
[09:29] <helpmelinux> Can anyone explain why an Ubuntu distro does not install on my system although my system will run the Ubuntu livecd without a hitch?
[09:30] <Viking667> uh, no idea?
[09:30] <Viking667> What error do you get when it tries to install?
[09:30] <abhijit> hello ibrahim-kasem
[09:31] <songer> hello
[09:31] <helpmelinux> no errors. it tells me that it completed and that I need to restart the system. When I do, it boots up to a grub rescue prompt.
[09:31] <songer> i'm trying to install a program
[09:31] <helpmelinux> I'm not very astute with Linux.
[09:32] <Viking667> helpmelinux: hm. What are you telling grub when it asks where to install to?
[09:32] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, :) ;)
[09:32] <songer> how can i go to the  directory where i have the program
[09:33] <songer> like desktop
[09:33] <ibrahim-kasem> songer, why do you want to see the directory ?
[09:33] <pepper_haze> I am pissed off, I installed virtual-box OSE from the ubuntu repositories and found that I got a error msg that virtual box doesn't run with Ubuntu's kernal?
[09:33] <helpmelinux> I instruct the installer to wipe out the entire disk and use it all. When I look into where the installer is loading grub, it is set to hd0
[09:33] <songer> says no such file or direcotory
[09:33] <songer> to install the program
[09:33] <Viking667> helpmelinux: sounds about right...
[09:33] <songer> Then go to the uncompressed directory and begin the installatio
[09:34] <ibrahim-kasem> songer, are you installing a program from a deb file ?
[09:34] <songer> tar.gz
[09:34] <helpmelinux> Viking667: any idea as to what's happening for the installer not to install grub correctly?
[09:34] <songer> i uncompressed on desktop
[09:35] <pepper_haze> does anyone know why a ubuntu package wouldn't be compatible with its kernal?
[09:35] <abhijit> songer, use cd
[09:35] <Viking667> helpmelinux: I wish I knew, frankly.
[09:35] <SwedeMike> pepper_haze: compatible how?
[09:35] <songer> cd
[09:35] <ibrahim-kasem> when you install it using the terminal make sure that you are in the same folder use pwd to know where you are
[09:35] <helpmelinux> Viking667: any suggestions of a workaround?
[09:35] <ibrahim-kasem> songer, when you install it using the terminal make sure that you are in the same folder use pwd to know where you are
[09:35] <abhijit> songer, not here. in your terminal to go to your software directory e.g. cd /home
[09:35] <jasonwryan> songer: then cd Desktop/program
[09:36] <Viking667> honestly?  Boot up with LiveCD, mount the hard disk's partition, cd to the mountpoint, chroot . /bin/sh
[09:36] <pepper_haze> SwedeMike, the ubuntu site said that ubuntu was built for virtualisation with kvm, and I got a error msg with virtual box saying that the linux kernal I use has a kvm extension on it and I need to recompile it
[09:36] <Viking667> and see if you can run update-grub2 I thirnk
[09:36] <Viking667> think
[09:36] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: check this same thing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723025
[09:36] <deostroll> sacarlson, output of fsck http://paste.ubuntu.com/474860/
[09:36] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, can you help me installing a program called tor ?
[09:37] <Viking667> yeesh.  apt-get install tor
[09:37] <abhijit> ibrahim-kasem, all instructions are given on their web site. i also followed that instrucion only.
[09:37] <helpmelinux> Thanks Viking667. I'll try that. I've got nothing to lose.
[09:37] <songer> if i type this: cd /home/songer/desktop says bash: cd: /home/songer/desktop: No such file or directory
[09:37] <ibrahim-kasem> Viking667, but there is another settings
[09:37] <abhijit> songer, nod 'd' its 'D'
[09:38] <abhijit> songer, not*
[09:38] <sacarlson> deostroll:  what disk was that from /dev/sda1 ?
[09:38] <abhijit> !tab | songer
[09:38] <SwedeMike> pepper_haze: I don't know. You should probably open a launchpad bug for that problem.
[09:38] <robertpayne> anyone possibly help me figure out why http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/8zA68dJy doesnt work? it works if I use sed outside of the loop but never inside $USE_HOSTNAME always results in an empty var
[09:38] <quibbler> pepper_haze-> I would uninstall virtual-box OSE and then go to http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads and download the correct deb file for your machine.
[09:39] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, I did not understand the instruction but I will read again anyway thnx.
[09:39] <deostroll> sacarlson, it said 80 gb /dev/sda...so I just did that against fsck
[09:39] <pepper_haze> SwedeMike, I actually wanted to mess around with the kernal myself, but its ok
[09:40] <triumph200> hi guys, my DVD won't play, any help?
[09:40] <abhijit> ibrahim-kasem, you first go through instructions. if not undertood then we can help.
[09:40] <deostroll> now i've tried fsck /dev/sda1 cuz that has the star nxt to it...
[09:40] <abhijit> !dvd | triumph200
[09:40] <sacarlson> deostroll: so you think that's the ubuntu 10.04?  then that good news just fix it
[09:41] <Koterpillar> http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ displays an error, what's the way to see what packages and versions are available there?
[09:41] <triumph200> abhijit: I have that installed, together with VLC, and still won't work
[09:41] <abhijit> triumph200, does it give any error?
[09:42] <triumph200> nope, it just won't play
[09:42] <triumph200> and I can't return the DVD to the store
[09:43] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: I appreciate your help, but it's still not working yet. Neither 'localhost' nor 127.0.0.1 are connecting.
[09:43] <deostroll> sacarlson, here is the entire list of commands i executed http://paste.ubuntu.com/474863/
[09:43] <abhijit> triumph200, have you seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[09:44] <sandking> hey
[09:44] <KE1HA> Koterpillar, Check the Blueprint on Launchpad: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+specs
[09:44] <triumph200> checkin that out atm
[09:44] <sandking> can anyone help me with no sound in stereo duplex headphones output?
[09:44] <Koterpillar> KE1HA, thanks, but I want to download some individual packages...
[09:45] <triumph200> abhijit: would my DVD work on Windows?
[09:45] <abhijit> triumph200, if you have win installed then check it.
[09:45] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: check this explains it better http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/use-ssh-create-http-proxy#comment-336322
[09:46] <Fate_Testarossa> hi, when my laptop is on battery ubuntu doesn`t recognise my nokia 6120c as a mobile broadband modem but on a/c it does it without a problem
[09:46] <triumph200> I can't atm, what do you think?
[09:46] <triumph200> cos the site says Bluray and HD don't work with opensource
[09:47] <abhijit> triumph200, yah
[09:47] <KE1HA> Koterpillar, this is OT but Im pretty sure the final package list for A3 isn't final yet. I know the ISO's been getting updated constantly.
[09:47] <triumph200> ok I'll try on my PC when I can
[09:48] <KE1HA> Koterpillar, also, look under the code section on LaunchPad, may get you what you need.
[09:49] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, I have installed tor , Torbutton plugin for firefox and changed the settings but its now working , any suggestions ?
[09:50] <robyromania> hi, can you recommend me the best video player/codec in ubuntu to play HD content?
[09:50] <Koterpillar> KE1HA, thanks, I browsed the /ubuntu/pool/main/ myself and found what I needed
[09:50] <benny> salve
[09:50] <Koterpillar> ibrahim-kasem, check tor logs (/var/log/tor*)
[09:50] <abhijit> ibrahim-kasem, not working mean ? what error it gives? try restarting pc?
[09:50] <benny> salve!!
[09:51] <KE1HA> Koterpillar, rr lots of bugs still, going thought App dos fer a couple days now.
[09:51] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, The proxy server is refusing connections
[09:51] <KE1HA> Docs*
[09:51] <AnxiousNut> how do i unlock my screen in dvtm?
[09:52] <ibrahim-kasem> Koterpillar this is the log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/474869/
 hi, can you recommend me the best video player/codec in ubuntu to play HD content? <--- maybe mplayer can partially handle BD but i don`t recall having read about BD protection being cracked
[09:53] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit,  I don't know if the logfile can be useful http://paste.ubuntu.com/474869/
[09:53] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: Again, thank you. But still no joy. The tunnel is fine, it's getting firefox to use the proxy. Just a quick question... On the laptop (server) there are no other settings I need to worry about. Open ports on router, ssh tunnel working, firefox proxy (working in time)... that's it, right?
 what do you mean my BD?
[09:54] <RealOpty> Mr_Sonoma, ping
 my*
 by*
[09:54] <abhijit> ibrahim-kasem, i dunno much about it. first you try restarting. then there is one solution for that proxy thing on tor site only. and after that you join #tor.
[09:54] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: the router is port forwarding to the ssh server right?
[09:54] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, okay thnx :)
[09:54] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm new to linux and this question may sound dumb but i have installed a package called "MultiGet" and i have specified a place where to save the downloads but it only shows up in that folder once the download is complete. is there anyway to access the file while it's being downloaded? if so, how?
 <Fate_Testarossa> what do you mean my BD? <--- didn`t you ask about blu-ray?
[09:54] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: yes... 192.168.2.3
[09:55] <abhijit> !tab > Fate_Testarossa
[09:55] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: but you didnt open any ports on the router just port forward it right?
 yes, that's what i've asked. so BD stands for blue-ray disk?
[09:56] <Fate_Testarossa> ubottu, yes, i`m not that new to linux or irc
[09:56] <KE1HA> paranoidphreak, Depends on how your downloading it. Do you need Download status or actual access to the file itself?
 i also mean the 720p and 1080p mkv movies
[09:56] <Fate_Testarossa> !stab abhijit
[09:56] <Fate_Testarossa> what, no stabbing service?
[09:56] <paranoidphreak> KE1HA: actual access to the file
[09:56]  * Fate_Testarossa stabs abhijit himself
[09:56] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: on my crappy router, port forwarding and opening seems to be one in the same
[09:57] <abhijit> !tab | robyromania
[09:57] <KE1HA> paranoidphreak, I think that will be locked until the DL is complete.
[09:57] <robyromania> ubottu, thanks, that's good to know :)
[09:57] <abhijit> :/
[09:57] <Fate_Testarossa> abhijit, what gives?
[09:57] <MaRk-I> So_Confused: if you configured ssh using keys i'll be fine you'll get some scans but that's about it
[09:58] <abhijit> Fate_Testarossa, what gives means? what do you want?
[09:58] <Fate_Testarossa> why are you !tab`ing others?
[09:58] <abhijit> Fate_Testarossa, to let them know that they dont need to copy paste nicks. nick can be autocompleted. it saves time.
[09:59] <Fate_Testarossa> what if want to copy the line i`m responding to?
[09:59] <Fate_Testarossa> you don`t expect me to retype it, do you?
[09:59] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: I think I set it up using keys... it's really been a while, a few days... I honestly can't remember
[10:00] <mustang__> quit
[10:00] <MaRk-I> lol @ a few days... So_Confused ok as long as it's set correctly I wouldnt worry
[10:00] <robyromania> Fate_Testarossa, so what's the best codec for decoding mkv in mplayer? i have a 3 ghz pentium 4
[10:00] <paranoidphreak> KE1HA: oh, is there any other download manager out there that allows me access to the downloading file?
[10:00] <Fate_Testarossa> mkv is a container
[10:00] <Fate_Testarossa> codecs are different thing
[10:00] <afief> Is it possible to change the text on the 10.04 boot screen?
[10:01] <Fate_Testarossa> but i reckon you`ve got AVC (also called H.264 among other names) there
[10:01] <Fate_Testarossa> which means you want ffh264 (FFmpeg H.264 implementation)
[10:01] <Fate_Testarossa> if it`s available, mplayer will use it
[10:02] <Fate_Testarossa> btw, it`s compiled in mplayer
[10:02] <Fate_Testarossa> at least usually
[10:02] <tripelb-liveCD> I need to know some things (please) how is sda and sdb determined? Why can't I partition sdb and ignore sba? must the system go onto sba? That's not the drive I want it on.
[10:02] <Fate_Testarossa> no idea about precompiled mplayer builds in ubuntu as i build it myself
[10:02] <Fate_Testarossa> oh
[10:02] <Fate_Testarossa> right
[10:03] <KE1HA> paranoidphreak, It also depends on the file type, if it's a Binary file (compiled) its a non-starter, but as asci file, you could use Tail -f or something in a terminal to show new data. You risk file corruption on a file that's being DL'ed. I dont know of a DL manager that will do that off hand.
[10:03] <Fate_Testarossa> robyromania, you could try vlc for starters
[10:03] <So_Confused> MaRk-I: heading to bed... too tired. Thanks for your patience. I'll pick this up again tomorrow.
[10:03] <So_Confused> Nite room
[10:04] <noren> !nvidia
[10:04] <robyromania> Fate_Testarossa, ok, thanks. i'm not really a starter, there's just a lot of codecs and it takes me too much time to test them all, with all the options. i thought, maybe i find someone experienced in HD vide decoding
[10:05] <songer> thaks for your help guys
[10:05] <Fate_Testarossa> robyromania, oh you meant that by hd
[10:05] <Fate_Testarossa> :D
[10:05] <Fate_Testarossa> vlc is pretty bad
[10:05] <paranoidphreak> KE1HA: i'm interested in dloading ISO files
[10:06] <robyromania> Fate_Testarossa, yeah, i meant high definiton. like 720p and 1080p
[10:06] <Fate_Testarossa> but for a change it currently does work though i didn`t do extensive testing
[10:06] <Fate_Testarossa> and i suspect there will be problems with ASS
[10:06] <Fate_Testarossa> also there aren`t that many codecs
[10:06] <songer> jasonwryan. abhijit  Ibrahim-kasem
[10:06] <Fate_Testarossa> most use ffh264
[10:06] <ibrahim-kasem> songer, your welcome :)
[10:07] <bareego> is ffh264 any better than the x264 codec ?
[10:07] <Fate_Testarossa> on windows (and on Linux via win32codecs wrapper) you can use coreavc
[10:07] <Fate_Testarossa> x264 is for ENCODING
[10:07] <Fate_Testarossa> only
[10:07] <Fate_Testarossa> and it`s the best the world has
[10:07] <bareego> oh, sorry, you were talking about decoding, lol
[10:07] <paranoidphreak> KE1HA: thanks anyways for your help......i'll keep looking in the synaptic to find a package that's suitable to me
[10:08] <Fate_Testarossa> if only anyone could help with my cute problem...
[10:08] <KE1HA> paranoidphreak, Oh, ok, I certainly don't know of an app for ISO viewing during download. I use Zsync to keep all the ISO I want up to date.
[10:09] <bareego> cute or acute ?
[10:09] <Fate_Testarossa> well, if ffh264 workds, it`s the best
[10:09] <Fate_Testarossa> if not, one can try CoreAVC
[10:09] <Fate_Testarossa> bareego, both
 hi, when my laptop is on battery ubuntu doesn`t recognise my nokia 6120c as a mobile broadband modem but on a/c it does it without a problem
[10:10] <KE1HA> paranoidphreak, check out ubuntu-qa-tools there's a script in it called d-ubuntu-test-iso. can be useful for other ISO's as well. Just ahve to do a few mods / tweeks to it.
[10:11] <KE1HA> dl-ubuntu-test-iso*
[10:11] <bareego> wouldn't know, don't even have a lappy
[10:11] <Raptors> Hey guys, is there a good light scheduling application for ubuntu that'll create a popup to remind me to do something?
[10:11] <mcnellis> what's the difference between nano and pico?
[10:11] <kuttan_> anybody who can help with privoxy
[10:11] <bareego> Fate_Testarossa, it wouldn't have something to do with the power profile ?
[10:11] <Viking667> mcnellis: not much.
[10:11] <bareego> Fate_Testarossa, might put USB on power saving or summink on bat
[10:11] <Viking667> licencing, I think
[10:11] <paranoidphreak> KE1HA: my filesystem partition is very small and i'm worried the incompleted file is being downloaded on that before it's moved to the location i had specified to save the files
[10:11] <Fate_Testarossa> as far as i can tell that profile is to primitive to handle that
[10:12] <Fate_Testarossa> also lsusb does list my nokia as connected
[10:12] <Viking667> mcnellis: pico went with the pine mailclient, nano was a rewrite under a different licence.
[10:12] <rww> mcnellis: nano is a free software clone of pico
[10:12] <bareego> tried it on a powered usb hub ?
[10:12] <ph8> hey all, i had a windows disk that i'd unplugged while installing ubuntu - i've plugged it back in now - how can i add it to grub? grub2 looks so much more complicated than grub 1 !
 tried it on a powered usb hub ? <--- uh?
[10:13] <Kwpolska> ph8: congratulations.
[10:13] <Viking667> ... given that the pine client was written under a somewhat restrictive licence from some university.
[10:13] <Kwpolska> you can try grub-update or somewhat else.
[10:13] <rww> ph8: if you run "sudo update-grub", it should autodetect
[10:13] <tripelb-liveCD> I need to know some things (please) how is sda and sdb determined? Why can't I partition sdb and ignore sba? must the system go onto sba? That's not the drive I want it on.
[10:13] <MaRk-I> ph8: try :  sudo update-grub see if auto detect gets it
[10:13] <ph8> sexy!
[10:13] <ph8> lets see
[10:13] <Kwpolska> I would install it with the W. disk
[10:13] <ph8> oh so it did
[10:13] <ph8> that was easy :-)
[10:13] <Kwpolska> tripelb-liveCD: by magic
[10:13] <FloodBot2> ph8: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:13] <bareego> you can get lil external USB device with extra ports that has it's own power supply
[10:13] <Kwpolska> tripelb-liveCD: it doesn't, I think.
[10:13] <ph8> yeh i would have installed with the windows disk but it had some other issues that are now sorted
[10:13] <ph8> thx for help
[10:13] <Slart> tripelb-liveCD: you don't have to install the system to sda
[10:13] <KE1HA> paranoidphreak, if you specified the final location, and there's plenty of space there, you should have any trouble.
[10:13] <bareego> if you happened to have one it would have been something to try out
[10:14] <KE1HA> oops you should "not" have .. ..
[10:14] <farkgis> salut
[10:14] <sandking> how can i update BIOS from linux?
[10:14] <Fate_Testarossa> bareego, the point is i want to use it without external power source
[10:14] <Viking667> sandking: you don.t
[10:14] <KE1HA> paranoidphreak, what app are you using to download with ?
[10:14] <Viking667> sandking: you put the BIOS image onto a FreeDOS boot disk
[10:14] <Viking667> (floppy, usually)
[10:14] <Slart> sandking: it depends on who made your motherboard.. some manufacturers are very windows-focused.. others are somewhat better
[10:14] <farkgis> quelqu'un sais pourquoi
[10:14] <noren> hi i need help in removing nvidia and enableing nouvea driver again. please, i hade disabled the m prior to installing nvidia driver
[10:14] <sandking> k
[10:14] <Fate_Testarossa> besides my phone is detected
[10:14] <maco> !fr | farkgis
[10:15] <tripelb-liveCD> hi slart: I want to put it on sdb. I ask to partition it and it jumps to partition sda. I'm reading gparted help. this is new.
[10:15] <sandking> Viking667, i assume that booting it from pendrive should work?
[10:15] <tripelb-liveCD> farkis bon chance.
[10:15] <Raptors> is there a application that I can run that'll output a text in a popup?
[10:15] <Raptors> from the terminal
[10:15] <paranoidphreak> KE1HA: im currently using "MultiGet" and it only shows the file in that folder once it's completed
[10:15] <maco> Raptors: zenity
[10:15] <tripelb-liveCD> Raptors: yes but I forget, it's almost like gedit
[10:16] <Slart> tripelb-liveCD: hmm.. never had gparted do that.. I've partitioned lots of drives.. it's always done its thing as I asked
[10:16] <tripelb-liveCD> Raptors: yes but I forget, it's called something almost like gedit
[10:16] <Viking667> sandking: only if the OS on the pendrive knows how to read the drive in question
[10:16] <Slart> Raptors: notify-send
[10:16] <kuttan_>  
[10:18] <KE1HA> paranoidphreak, if its the partition space you worked about, not th file itself initially, use the system resource monitor or DF to watch the disk space closely. I use Zsync or rsync because it dramatically cuts down on DL time.
[10:18] <KE1HA> .. worried*
[10:18] <tripelb-liveCD> slart, this is in "install" I think I'll go to gparted. -- I've been working on this installation all day. I'm learning as I go. I didnt realize what some things were and I see it now. It can be in front of my eyes but I might not know how to interpret it. (and someone gave me a good idea of what sized to make the sections.) Question: LVM is automatic in fedora/redhat? the same in ubuntu?
[10:19] <Slart> tripelb-liveCD: I have no idea how lvm works in ubuntu, I've never used it myself
[10:19] <paranoidphreak> KE1HA: got it, thanks
[10:20] <kuttan_> hi how can I install xen dom0 on lucid
[10:20] <abhijit> help! my xchat menus are gone? :(
[10:20] <aeteron> press f11
[10:20] <aeteron> no, f12
[10:20] <sforzando> PENIS
[10:20] <aeteron> one of the f keys
[10:21] <snorange> PENIS!
[10:21] <aeteron> f9, press f9
[10:21] <oCean_> snorange: very mature!
[10:21] <Fate_Testarossa> abhijit, ctrl+f9
[10:21] <snorange> It's the rules, oCean.
[10:21] <sforzando> Yeah, snorange.
[10:21] <sforzando> Very mature.
[10:21] <ss_> hi. i got ubuntu 10.04. and apple mac book pro. i cant adjust brightness
[10:21] <maco> sforzando, snorangenot appropriate here
[10:21] <tripelb-liveCD> as I understand it in ubuntu we use a partition table of type msdos. Is this true?
[10:21] <Slart> tripelb-liveCD: true
[10:21]  * abhijit is confused what is going on?
[10:21] <Minifab> Hi all
[10:21] <aeteron> you have to penis press f9
[10:22] <MoLE_> !coc > aeteron
[10:22] <Fate_Testarossa> awesome
[10:22] <oCean_> aeteron: please drop it
[10:22] <ss_> hi. i got ubuntu 10.04. and apple mac book pro. i cant adjust brightness
[10:22] <tripelb-liveCD> sforzando: press /quit
[10:22] <abhijit> Fate_Testarossa, aeteron  yah f9 works
[10:22] <MoLE_> !coc > sforzando
[10:22] <Fate_Testarossa> oCean_, you want him to drop his cock?
[10:22] <abhijit> !language
[10:22] <oCean_> Fate_Testarossa: ...
[10:22] <MoLE_> !coc
[10:22] <Minifab> lol
[10:23] <MaRk-I> abhijit: /gui_hide_menu
[10:23] <abhijit> MaRk-I, yah f9 solves.
[10:23] <MaRk-I> abhijit: ok
[10:23] <tripelb-liveCD> please look at my question - more fun than bodyparts - as I understand it in ubuntu we use a partition table of type msdos. Is this true?
[10:24] <maco> tripelb-liveCD: someone already said "true" to you
[10:24] <Fate_Testarossa> tripelb-liveCD, yes
[10:24] <tripelb-liveCD> maco thanks, sorry I didnt see.
[10:24] <Fate_Testarossa> what else could ubuntu use?
[10:24] <ph8> how do i do a reverse dns lookup from the terminal?
[10:24] <Fate_Testarossa> i mean on pc
[10:25] <nobarking> is there a way to get Ubuntu's font rendering on other distros?
[10:25] <Fate_Testarossa> ph8, resolveip, iirc
[10:25] <Minifab> u can use dig util
[10:25] <Minifab> for dns reverse
[10:25] <Fate_Testarossa> just try resolve<tab>
[10:25] <ph8> thx
[10:25] <Fate_Testarossa> nobarking, gentoo does have that
[10:25] <Fate_Testarossa> so yes
[10:25] <andyn> host should also work just fine. dig will output all the information it can get from the dns server
[10:25] <heyboy> I am not able to my USB Modem on Kubuntu 10.04
[10:25] <Fate_Testarossa> how: via porting of features
[10:25] <tripelb-liveCD> Fate_Testarossa: I've been learning ie working on setting up this new hd all day. back in gparted. want to set up partitions. Does ubuntu need a primary partition or can it all be extended and logical?
[10:26] <heyboy> sorry,
[10:26] <heyboy> I am not able to connect my USB Modem on Kubuntu 10.04
[10:26] <Fate_Testarossa> tripelb-liveCD, it can be any kind of partition, afaik
[10:26] <Fate_Testarossa> but i generally go with primary
[10:26] <MaRk-I> heyboy: is that one of them modems that have their own windows drivers?
[10:27] <heyboy> yes
[10:27] <heyboy> ZTE
[10:27] <Fate_Testarossa> also i think at least some bioses expect at least the first partition to be primary
[10:27] <heyboy> Connects as a flash drive with driver installer on it.
[10:27] <MaRk-I> heyboy: install usb-modeswitch, unplug the usb, plug it back and just unmout the folder
[10:28] <heyboy> let me try.
[10:28] <andyn> Fate_Testarossa: my amilo l1300 expects a msdos type partition table and it won't boot the mbr if there is no active partition :P
[10:28] <heyboy> I do have usb-modeswitch installed though
[10:28] <MaRk-I> heyboy: then just right click the folder "unmount" and check network manager
[10:28] <andyn> Fate_Testarossa: so, it really depends on the bios. anything should work on a decent one, though
[10:29] <ss_> hi. i got ubuntu 10.04. and apple mac book pro. i cant adjust brightness
[10:29] <heyboy> let me try
[10:29] <Fate_Testarossa> andyn, does that meant that you tried to format the whole drive without partitioning?
[10:29] <Fate_Testarossa> as you mentioned an msdos partition table
[10:29] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD, is this new Hard-Drive going to have only Ubuntu instilled on it ? If so, Download the Ubuntu-Alternate-Desktop versions. From that ISO you will have several options for install, two of which being LVM.
[10:30] <andyn> Fate_Testarossa: no, i partitioned it normally and expected it to boot grub from mbr as any real bios should do. instead it just reported no os found. i had to set that active partition even though it should only affect dos and win bootloaders
[10:31] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD, and for standard install, stick with the suggesitons /boot ext4 /root ext4 /swap not FS and your LVM make it whatever you choose / need.
[10:32] <Fate_Testarossa> KE1HA, /boot can/should be unjournalised
[10:32] <Fate_Testarossa> ext2 works fine
[10:32] <Fate_Testarossa> as for / - ext4 is awful
[10:32] <Fate_Testarossa> i prefer xfs
[10:32] <Raptors> is there a application that I can run that'll output a text in a popup?
[10:32] <Fate_Testarossa> the rest: definitely xfs/tmpfs
[10:32] <KE1HA> Fate_Testarossa, can be any number of FS, but the current mode (which makes support much easier) is ext4
[10:32] <Raptors> from terminal
[10:32] <Slart> Raptors: what was wrong with notify-send?
[10:33] <Fate_Testarossa> number?
[10:33] <Fate_Testarossa> KE1HA, number?
[10:33] <heyboy> MaRk-I: it is not mounted anywhere.
[10:33] <KE1HA> Fate_Testarossa, riserfs, ext2, ext3 etc etc any number of file_systems etc.
 Raptors: what was wrong with notify-send?
[10:33] <Raptors> its not in repo :\
[10:34] <Slart> Raptors: or zenity.. which was also suggested to you
[10:34] <Fate_Testarossa> KE1HA, stfu
[10:34] <heyboy> MaRk-I: but is recognized and is showing in the NM applet (in the tray)
[10:34] <Fate_Testarossa> try xfs for /boot
[10:34] <Raptors> Slart, I can't figure out how to use zenity
[10:34] <Raptors> :\
[10:34] <jussi> !stfu | Fate_Testarossa
[10:34] <Fate_Testarossa> btw, despite what you might find, it does actually work
[10:34] <KE1HA> that's my fvorite actually XFS.
[10:34] <Slart> Raptors: the package is called libnotify-bin, the command is notify-send
[10:34] <Fate_Testarossa> but it`s slightly tricky to pull off
[10:35] <MaRk-I> heyboy: then you select it and edit settings
[10:35] <Slart> !info libnotify-bin | Raptors
[10:35] <Raptors> Slart, that's perfect :)
[10:35] <Raptors> thanks
[10:35] <nisstyre65> Why doesn't the stock ubuntu xinitrc have something like 'exec gnome-session' ? It references some script instead...
[10:36] <KE1HA> Fate_Testarossa, hence, for the non-filesystem experts, they are better off sticking with the main-stream recomendaitons, if for no other reason than support, especially if extreme performance is not a key selection factor.
[10:37] <Fate_Testarossa> KE1HA, more like ext4 is pretty slow
[10:37] <Fate_Testarossa> also, for / blocksize is very important
[10:38] <KE1HA> Fate_Testarossa, we use XFS on out HPC clusters, but the minor performance achievements are only "seen" when running apps that take days to compile, and the average user would "never" see the diff.
[10:38] <Fate_Testarossa> i`d suggest going with 1024 for / and 4096 or even 8192 for partitions that will hold BIG files
[10:39] <Fate_Testarossa> KE1HA, what kind of apps are those?
[10:39] <KE1HA> Maxwells equations.
[10:39] <Fate_Testarossa> i see
[10:39] <KE1HA> real-time-regression of optial refractions in silicon substrates.
[10:40] <Fate_Testarossa> for solar panels or something like that?
[10:40] <KE1HA> Folks like Intel, adm etc etc use thise profiles in modeling their thin-film makes on the back end of chip processes
[10:40] <Muffler> Hello! I am trying to mount a hardrive in a folder that is shared with samba but can't seem to get write permission on it. I have tried setting my user to be the owner, but everytime i mount a drive to the folder root becomes the owner (and group). My atomount string in fstab is: /dev/sdb1   /media/adrive ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=002 0    0 -0 . Help would be much appreciated
[10:41] <Viking667> tried  umask=002,users  0 0
[10:41] <Viking667> (in addition to nls=utf8)
[10:41] <Muffler> will try, brb :)
[10:41] <KE1HA> Fate_Testarossa, way off topic, but the thinner the interconnect layers are, the more layers they can squeeze in. More layers = Faster Speeds.
[10:42] <leenuks> what driver do i need to install on 10.04 for an hp photosmart all-in-one printer?
[10:42] <KE1HA> 45 million transistors take allot of Inter-Connect layers to get them all conected :-)
[10:42] <nisstyre65> Can someone explain how ubuntu uses xinit? or point me to a resource on it?
[10:43] <nisstyre65> !xinit
[10:43] <ibrahim-kasem> !swap
[10:44] <tripelb-liveCD> Do I use fdisk or gparted to make partitions. The drive will all be ext3. (so far)(thinking about it)
[10:44] <abhijit> !hardware | leenuks see if this printer is supported or not
[10:44] <Jigal> hello is there a command which can show me information about my processor?
[10:44] <jason_xandros> top
[10:44] <nisstyre65> Jigal: cat /proc/version
[10:44] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD, are you installing from the Live-CD ?
[10:44] <abhijit> Jigal, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:44] <llutz> Jigal: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:45] <nisstyre65> oh yeah cpuinfo
[10:45] <oCean_> Jigal: cat /proc/cpuinfo and/or lshw -C cpu
[10:46] <Jigal> tnx guys
[10:46] <leenuks> abhijit, thanks. i don't see this printer on there :(
[10:46] <Muffler> KE1HA: Does'nt seem to work :(
[10:46] <abhijit> leenuks, what the number of your printer?
[10:47] <Muffler> drwxrwxr-x 1 root   root  53248 2010-07-27 10:51 adrive after i have done a sudo chown -R daniel:users /media/adrive
[10:47] <KE1HA> The Live-CD uses gparted I believe, for it's install. What's not working ?
[10:47] <leenuks> abhijit, photosmart b109
[10:48] <Viking667> weird
[10:48] <llutz> Muffler: you cannot chown a non-unix filesystem, use mountoptions (read man mount)
[10:48] <tripelb-liveCD> KE1HA: I'm trying to. But I've been working on it all day. the installer wont make partitions on sdb, when I request that it changes to sda (which is windows and should be untouched). I have no idea why one is sda and one is sdb.  sdb is a SATA drive. sba is an IDE drive. sdb is a new drive. I made one big primary partition so far. I want to subdivide it.
[10:49] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD,so this is a Dual-Boot system then yes ?
[10:49] <tripelb-liveCD> KE1HA: to help me out, please use my name in every line for me. That makes it color it.
[10:49] <Muffler> llutz: Hmmm, dont know what you mean, quite new to this. But i would guess that's my input in fstab?
[10:49] <llutz> !ntfs > Muffler
[10:50] <abhijit> leenuks, have you tried connecting printer and see what happen?
[10:50] <tripelb-liveCD> KE1HA: that's what I intend. tho I will seldom use windows.
[10:50] <Muffler> :) thank you!
[10:50] <tripelb-liveCD> KE1HA: 40G SP drive. New 1T linux
[10:50] <llutz> Muffler: and just a hint: if you don't know what you're doing, don't play with chown/chmod. it can brick your system easily
[10:51] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD, here's a coupl;e of Video's to watch first: http://www.google.com/search?q=Ubuntu+Install+Dual-Boot&hl=en&prmd=v&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=4X1eTITDBo3QsAPFv8WqCw&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CDAQqwQwBA
[10:51] <tripelb-liveCD> KE1HA: correction 40G XP drive. New 1T linux
[10:51] <KE1HA> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CCwQtwIwBg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dm5Jxfj6tu_U&rct=j&q=Ubuntu%20Install%20Dual-Boot&ei=4X1eTITDBo3QsAPFv8WqCw&usg=AFQjCNHkojJ4ACAMYwKTg4MKGFCXErYSQg&cad=rja
[10:51] <Kwpolska> tripelb-liveCD: you shall say XP*, it's just enough.
[10:51] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD, then go thought this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[10:51] <tripelb-liveCD> KE1HA: I am on a liveCD and so I cannot watch a video. unless I reboot onto windows.
[10:51] <Muffler> !ntfs
[10:51] <Kwpolska> tripelb-liveCD: install flash
[10:51] <nisstyre65> llutz: how the heck can chmod "brick" your system?
[10:51] <Kwpolska> nisstyre65: it can lock your permissions
[10:51] <shahrooz> Hi,  I need to install skystar2 rev2.8 on ubuntu 9.10, I tried any tutorial I found in google but no one worked out
[10:51] <llutz> nisstyre65: chmod 777 /etc and see
[10:52] <nisstyre65> Kwpolska: how?
[10:52] <Kwpolska> nisstyre65: y setting wrong
[10:52] <Kwpolska> by*
[10:52] <nisstyre65> you still have root
[10:52] <leenuks> abhijit, give me one second please.
[10:52] <Kwpolska> but root is unaccessible on buuntu.
[10:52] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD, if you dont do this correctly, you wont have to worry about booting windows :-)
[10:52] <nisstyre65> you have root through /etc/sudoers
[10:52] <nisstyre65> if you don't touch that file you can't mess anything up
[10:52] <llutz> nisstyre65: i assumed sudo for that
[10:53] <nisstyre65> in fact you can get root easily
[10:53] <abhijit> leenuks, you might find this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[10:53] <shahrooz>  I need to install skystar2 rev2.8 on ubuntu 9.10, I tried any tutorial I found in google but no one worked out
[10:53] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD, your better off reading and watching a bit first, then dive in, rather than diving in and trying o figure out how to correct something, especially with Dual booting a system.
[10:53] <iceroot> !doesntwork | shahrooz
[10:54] <shahrooz> okay, you want example ? :) that means error
[10:54] <shahrooz> all error
[10:54] <x86br> good morning
[10:54] <iceroot> shahrooz: we want usefull details and not " i tried everything but its not working", what is everything?
[10:54] <tripelb-liveCD> KE1HA: yes, I'm being careful. I spent several hours putting XP on that drive. I dont want to have to do it all over again.
[10:55] <abhijit> god is everything! :D
[10:55] <shahrooz> iceroot: I cant give you usefull details by myself cuz I'm really new
[10:55] <abhijit> !details | shahrooz
[10:56] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD, At this point, I would hold up, do a bit of reading, and see where you need to retrace things from where your at, then go back at it.
[10:56] <Muffler> f**k me that worked!
[10:56] <tripelb-liveCD> KE1HA: I've been doing things step by step all day. I should prolly go to sleep now and continue tomorrow. I'll save what you gave me in a file on a flash drive.
[10:56] <tripelb-liveCD> thanks you
[10:57] <KE1HA> tripelb-liveCD, roger that, probably a good idea, mistakes are easy to make when your tired.
[10:57] <x86br> i have one problem, if someone can help me, thanks. Im trying boot ubuntu using a external usb drive ( Not flash drive ). But im getting this error all the time BOOT0:error. Using unetboot i get a diferent error, need boot mgr. So,..what i need do?
[10:57] <troppobello> CIAO
[10:57] <troppobello> !LIST
[10:58] <shahrooz> let me see... I'm trying to install my skystar 2 dvb card and I have the last driver, but the installation file is really confusing me and I dont know what to do, also using patch command to patch the .patch file is giving me error which says the command is wrong. thats all.
[10:59] <x86br> oh well, 36+ hours and no advance
[10:59] <x86br> x.x
[11:01] <shahrooz> how can I put my output here ?
[11:01] <abhijit> !paste | shahrooz
[11:02] <lungan> If i start youtube (firefox) before spotify I have no sound in Spotify, but if I start Spotyify before youtube I have sound in Spotify but not on youtube?
[11:02] <Muffler> is there a way to get ubuntu (server) to write a file with the remainging diskspace in a specific folder?
[11:03] <shahrooz> thanks. okay look, I'm running this command and the file is there, but it just gives me error http://paste.ubuntu.com/474887/
[11:03] <KE1HA> x86br, Quick quesiton, do you have your BIOS set to BOOT USB devices First ?
[11:03] <x86br> oh yes
[11:03] <x86br> :)
[11:04] <KE1HA> Addtionally, in allot of BIOS, you need to set the flag to "allow USB Boot Also"
[11:04] <AlphaWaves> hi
[11:04] <shahrooz> so whats wrong ?
[11:04] <KE1HA> x86br, as that erros means, it's not seeing a valid Boot-Device.
[11:05] <Raydiation> hi, how can i erase all data on an usb stick? cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdd
[11:05] <x86br> yep,..need a boot mgr
[11:05] <x86br> or boot0:error
[11:05] <shahrooz> why am I getting error message by this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/474887/
[11:06] <KE1HA> x86br, yes, ummm.. when it's booting, on the bios boot screen, can you hit the escape key or F12 maybe and select a boot-device ?
[11:06] <x86br> yes, same thing
[11:06] <x86br> Remember its a external hd, not a flash drive.
[11:06] <KE1HA> x86br, The boot-manager is "after" install, LILO, Grub etc. this is a problem before that.
[11:06] <x86br> extracting or using unetboot, on boot i get this errors
[11:07] <leenuks> abhijit, thanks for the link, i'm looking through it right now.
[11:07] <abhijit> leenuks, ok
[11:08] <KE1HA> x86br, also, if the CD-ISO is corrupt, yo can get this error. Did you MD5 the ISO and burn it slow with your writer ?
[11:08] <x86br> tested on flash drive and works good.
[11:08] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[11:08] <leenuks> abhijit, it prints and all but i can't find a way to scan to pc. the printer gives me an error when i try.
[11:09] <KE1HA> x86br, the ISO from a flash Drive works ok ?
[11:09] <shahrooz> now thats really weird, why you dont answer me ?
[11:09] <x86br> yes,..the same iso
[11:09] <abhijit> leenuks, you have scan software installed?
[11:09] <abhijit> !who | shahrooz
[11:09] <shahrooz> I'm not speaking to someone :( I'm just asking
[11:09] <Kwpolska> you did it wrong
[11:10] <ShapeShifter499> I can't get the Ubuntu One desktop client working........... can someone help me?
[11:10] <KE1HA> x86br, Ok, that sounds like a CD-Rom Drive or BIOS setting problem then. What Motherboard & CD-Rom drive you using ?
[11:10] <shahrooz> kwpolska : me ?
[11:10] <Kwpolska> yes you.
[11:10] <aswin> hw to play counter strike source in wifi using wine?
[11:10] <oCean_> !who | Kwpolska
[11:10] <abhijit> ShapeShifter499, ask in #ubuntuone
[11:10] <shahrooz> Kwpolska: how should I do it ? I thought its right
[11:10] <Kwpolska> oCean_: I know, sir
[11:10] <x86br> KE1H, hp g42
[11:11] <oCean_> Kwpolska: then use it
[11:11] <Kwpolska> shahrooz: search google or something
[11:11] <x86br> KE1HA its a laptop
[11:11] <ShapeShifter499> abhijit: oh there is a channel
[11:11] <shahrooz> kwpolska: I did more than 3 hours, no result
[11:11] <ShapeShifter499> abhijit: xD thanks
[11:11] <Alexandre_> ciao !
[11:11] <dwade----> how do i install fusion?
[11:12] <leenuks> abhijit, that's what i'm trying to find.
[11:12] <dwade----> or is fusion already int he synaptic manager?
[11:12] <shahrooz> Some one please tell me whats wrong with this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/474887/
[11:12] <abhijit> leenuks, there is scanner software in appliations>graphics. also you check the cd you got with printer. see if it has some driver or software for linux
[11:12] <KE1HA> x86br, ok, We still can't rule-out that the ISO you burnt to the CD isn't bad. Sounds like the ISO itself is valid, as the flash drive boots it ok. What speed did you burn the ISO to CD at ?
[11:12] <abhijit> dwade----, compiz fusion is there in ubuntu software cneter
[11:13] <apropos> shahrooz: you're in the wrong directory
[11:13] <oCean_> shahrooz: what does it say on line 2
[11:13] <shahrooz> oCean: dude, I'm in the right directory, thats why I'm confused
[11:13] <dwade----> Abhijeet,  thanks.
[11:13] <aswin> i have installed wine and counter strike also nd its running but i cnt get it to work with wifi
[11:13] <shahrooz> oCean: the file is right there
[11:14] <KE1HA> x86br, just for info, I burn all ISO at the Slowest possible speed, usually 2x for DVD and 4x for CD, just to ensure the writer doesn't cause trouble.s
[11:14] <leenuks> abhijit, the install cd only has mac os and windows drivers
[11:14] <x86br> KE1HA no burn on cd. Want extract to a external usb hd, boot and install to internal hd.
[11:14] <abhijit> aswin, try in #windehq
[11:14] <oCean_> shahrooz: hit <tab> to complete my nick. Also, have you opened the patchfile to see what is mentioned at line 4?
[11:14] <abhijit> leenuks, ohhh. :(
[11:15] <KE1HA> x86br, Oh, Ok, I mis-understood. when you say "extract" you mean copy the ISO to the USB drive ?
[11:15] <x86br> KE1HA exactly
[11:15] <x86br> using unerboot or simple extract
[11:15] <x86br> unetboot*
[11:15] <KE1HA> x86br, Ok, then you want to Boot that ISO from the USB Disk Drive yes ?
[11:15] <shahrooz> oCean_: I did, but I dont get it
[11:15] <elitexray> Is there a way to disable root password dialog when installing software?
[11:15] <x86br> KE1HA yes
[11:15] <dwade----> Abhijeet,  its installed and running but how i configure it?
[11:16] <abhijit> dwade----, run it. then it will sit on top right panel. then right click and go to settings.
[11:16] <abhijit> !tab > dwade----
[11:16] <dwade----> elitexray,  log in as root via su in term.
[11:16] <shahrooz> oCean_: also my make and make install dont work at all. can they be related ?
[11:17] <KE1HA> x86br, that's essentially a Dual Boot System. You've god a couple options, Create a Dual Boot-System and like yoy said, you'l need a boot-manager installed on your Hard-Drive, or, disable the hard Drive in the BIOS, and do a Native Install to the USB drive itself.
[11:17] <bullgard> http://princessleia.com/bitlbee.php: "You need register so that all your IM settings (passwords, contacts, etc) can be saved on the BitlBee server. It's important that you pick a good password so no one else can access your account. Register with this password using the register command: register <password>" On what computer is the BitlBee server?
[11:17] <oCean_> shahrooz: in the .patch file the file-to-be-patched has to be mentioned. Use the correct -pX option to give correct location.
[11:17] <KE1HA> Whoops, you have a couple options .. .. ..
[11:17] <dwade----> abhijit, lol sorry hit the wrong nick tabbed, and there is no setting
[11:17] <shahrooz> oCean_:  whats -px ?
[11:18] <oCean_> shahrooz: yes, it could be related. Since it's not software from the repositories you better contact the packager/builder of the software
[11:18] <x86br> KE1HA thanks, let me try
[11:18] <dwade----> abhijit,  also im running in vbox.
[11:18] <shahrooz> oCean_: I tried different packages but they dont work too
[11:18] <abhijit> dwade----, run it. then it will sit on top right panel. then right click and go to settings.
[11:19] <yudi1> can I use ekiga to connect two systems inside VPN. Similar to mumble. Is there any voice chat application that connects two systems directly?
[11:19] <dwade----> abhijit,  it is running and there is no settings when i r click
[11:19] <intel> hello to everyone
[11:19] <abhijit> dwade----, right click on that icon and there is settings option
[11:19] <elitexray> is it su root login?
[11:20] <dbunch_> excuse me, how come i cant restore the files that are in my trash when i right click and click restore, i get an error no such file or directory
[11:20] <dwade----> OMG abhijit  THERE IS NO SETTINGS
[11:20] <dbunch_> i have some video files in there
[11:20] <dbunch_> and it is showing the preview thumbnail
[11:20] <abhijit> !su | elitexray
[11:20] <intel> ..........I don't know why my ubuntu is running slower after I updated it
[11:20] <oCean_> shahrooz: in that case you better read up on how to compile packages from source. And learn how to use the patch command. Here is a little start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[11:20] <intel> someone please help
[11:20] <elitexray> thanks!
[11:20] <shahrooz> oCean_: thanks, I hope it works
[11:20] <abhijit> dwade----, you are takling about compiz fusion icon right? that blue one? with white arrow in it?
[11:20] <elitexray> Btw, that was a quick response @ ubottu
[11:20] <blue_> hey guys
[11:20] <intel> do we have temp file in ubuntu
[11:20] <dwade----> yes abhijit
[11:21] <bullgard> yudi1: You better ask precisely what you want to know.
[11:21] <abhijit> intel, yes its location is /tmp
[11:21] <intel> guys please help
[11:21] <blue_> Im having a problem with lucid not being able to partition during install?
[11:21] <leenuks> abhijit, how can i find the device bus id?
[11:21] <dbunch_> why cant i restore or access the items in my trash?
[11:21] <intel> how to delete temp file
[11:21] <abhijit> dwade----, have you install simple compizconfig settings manager?
[11:21] <intel> I am new to ubuntu
[11:21] <abhijit> leenuks, dunno.
[11:21] <Abhijeet> any one tried new ubuntu 10.10 Beta.
[11:22] <intel> one of my friend reffered me
[11:22] <dwade----> i installed all of compize abhijit
[11:22] <abhijit> intel, sudo rm /tmp/filename
[11:22] <coz_> blue_,  did you run the live cd  and choose  "check  cd "  option to be sure the cd itself is not corrupted??
[11:22] <abhijit> !manual > intel
[11:22] <KE1HA> Abhijeet, Yes, about 10 diffrent distro's but it's A3 at the moment.
[11:22] <abhijit> dwade----, try in #compiz
[11:22] <elitexray> I just found information that I shouldn't graphically login root or auto login as root
[11:22] <chilli0> Hello , Can I add music to my ipod touch from rythmbox now? ubuntu 10.04 I can see it in rhymbox , and I just deleted all of my old songs off it. ( worked fine) But I tryed adding new ones and it didn't seem to like that...
[11:22] <abhijit> !10.10 | Abhijeet
[11:22] <elitexray> can someone tell me the reason for this?
[11:22] <yudi1> bullgard: just want to know how to use ekiga for voice chat between two systems in VPN. I use skype right now, get a lot of dropouts
[11:22] <blue_> Im having a problem with lucid not being able to partition during install?
[11:23] <bullgard> intel: Files in /temp will be deleted automatically at the end of a session or the start of the next session.
[11:23] <abhijit> !gksudo | elitexray
[11:23] <coz_> blue_,   can you read this message??
[11:23] <blue_> yes sir
[11:23] <Viking667> coz_: why are your lines blank?
[11:23] <bullgard> yudi1: I did not use Ekiga in a VPN. Sorry I cannot help you.
[11:23] <oCean_> elitexray: there is no reason to use root account. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:23] <coz_> blue_,  ok   the first thing I would check is  the live cd   ... run that  then choose the  "check  cd" option to be sure it is not corrupt
[11:23] <blue_> oh, sorry didnt see above. ive tried install from both usb and cd
[11:23] <coz_> Viking667,   blank??
[11:23] <intel> my system is getting slower please help
[11:24] <KE1HA> Abhijeet, If you want to test 10.10 check out: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[11:24] <Viking667> coz_: huh? You've done it again
[11:24] <abhijit> !details | intel
[11:24] <Viking667> 22:23 < coz_>
[11:24] <bullgard> yudi1: You could ask in #ekiga in irc.gimp.org
[11:24] <coz_> is anyone else getting blank entries when I type?
[11:24] <abhijit> coz_, no
[11:24] <intel> recently I installed picasa 3.0 it has slown my startup
[11:25] <chilli0> Hello , Can I add music to my ipod touch from rythmbox now? ubuntu 10.04 I can see it in rhymbox , and I just deleted all of my old songs off it. ( worked fine) But I tryed adding new ones and it didn't seem to like that...
[11:25] <coz_> Viking667,  that may be on your irc client
[11:25] <mynick2> elite, they say the resrrrj
[11:25] <Viking667> heh. Was having you on...
[11:25] <intel> infact after my updates were installed my system is slow
[11:25] <Viking667> You were asking: blue_, can you read this message...
[11:25] <blue_> i can read
[11:25] <coz_> intel,   do you remember any of the update packages ?
[11:26] <KE1HA> chilli0, check out banshi (not sure on the spelling) but I think it has an iPod-plug in for iTunes etc.
[11:26] <yudi1> bullgard: thanks, will do. what do you think is the best solution here. I just need something that maintains quality voice output. Mumble seems to be the popular choice.
[11:26] <intel> no
[11:26] <chilli0> KE1HA, Ok thanks.
[11:26] <coz_> intel,  ok  then tell me... did you reboot after the updates were finished?
[11:26] <bullgard> yudi1: I do recommend to you Empathy.
[11:26] <intel> no I don't
[11:26] <intel> y
[11:26] <blue_> coz_ ?
[11:26] <coz_> intel,  that wouild be the first thing to try
[11:26] <intel> yes
[11:27] <coz_> blue_,  do you have a live cd of ubuntu you are tring to install from??
[11:27] <intel> I installed compiz
[11:27] <coz_> intel,  how did you install compiz??
[11:27] <blue_> i have it on usb
[11:27] <intel> I downloaded it
[11:27] <blue_> im actually on the live usb now
[11:27] <KE1HA> yudi1, +1 on Empathy works well.
[11:28] <coz_> blue_,  ah ok.... mmm... I have not tried that method  but I can assume that the same problems can arrise... you may want to redoowload that to be sure
[11:28] <blue_> i did
[11:28] <blue_> still getting same issue
[11:28] <coz_> blue_,  oh!  and with the usb install ...is there a menu that shows up just before the install ...with options like  Start without installing...or check  for errors ??
[11:29] <blue_> does it have anyting to do with my hdd setup? I have them setup as raid 0 striped
[11:29] <leenuks> abhijit, thanks for your help.
[11:29] <blue_> yes
[11:29] <abhijit> leenuks, printer working?
[11:29] <coz_> blue_,  well it should not have issues with raid...but if it has options for checking for errors...that should be run first
[11:29] <KE1HA> chilli0, Just checked, Banshee does have a plug-in for iTune Library: http://code.google.com/p/banshee-itunes-import-plugin/
[11:30] <blue_> ok, will do, Ill be back
[11:30] <coz_> blue_,  however... if it does have issues with raid set up.... I am not aware of it
[11:30] <chilli0> KE1HA, It doesn't work =O , ipod doesn't show up on it.
[11:30] <yudi1> bullgard: KE1HA: how would I set up empathy so that it does not ue third party protocol. the reason i was asking about ekiga  - it supports h323 which is supposed to be very good
[11:30] <intel> how do we delete temp files
[11:31] <abhijit> intel, sudo rm /tmp/filename
[11:31] <coz_> intel,  where is this "temp" file located?
[11:31] <KE1HA> chilli0, well that's not good :-) .. I've not used it personally, so don't know all the setup requirements. Did you go though the Apps manager ? Also, there's a site i know for setting these up, hold on, will go look it up.
[11:32] <alex87> can you get back ported kernels in ubuntu (ie, 2.6.33+)?
[11:32] <leenuks> abhijit, it was always working i was just looking for a way to be able to scan to pc.j
[11:32] <chilli0> KE1HA, Thanks. And yeah I had a look at most of the stuff. But All I need is either something that can add songs.  Or a music player that can play from a folder on the ipod touch.
[11:32] <abhijit> leenuks, so is scanner working now?
[11:32] <leenuks> abhijit, not yet, the hp utility is not finding my printer and i don't have any more time to hang around now. thanks though.
[11:33] <abhijit> leenuks, ok. bye
[11:33] <cambosandman> all of my minimize, maximize, close buttons have disappeared in all aplications in 10.04
[11:33] <cambosandman> Is there a way to get them back?
[11:33] <coz_> cambosandman,  are you running  compiz?
[11:33] <coz_> cambosandman,   is this gnome  or kde?
[11:33] <hiexpo> hplp toolbox
[11:34]  * Viking667 wonders if cambosandman's WM has gone west
[11:34] <cambosandman> coz_, gnome and removed compiz
[11:34] <Viking667> hm.
[11:34] <KE1HA> chilli0, Have a read of this one: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[11:34] <Viking667> See if metacity appears in "ps ax" listing
[11:34] <coz_> cambosandman,    hit alt+F2  type  metacity --replace
[11:34] <chilli0> KE1HA, Will do thanks.
[11:34] <Viking667> ^^ if you don't see metacity running ^^
[11:34] <coz_> cambosandman,  why did you remove compiz... and how did you do that?
[11:35] <chilli0> KE1HA, I dont have windows =P , but gtkpod might work.
[11:35] <rooks> in which repository gm-notify is placed?
[11:36] <cambosandman> coz_, compiz appeared to be causing my mouse/keyboard to lock up after running for 5 to 30 seconds
[11:36] <abhijit> !info gn-notify | rooks
[11:36] <cambosandman> with apptitude
[11:36] <KE1HA> chilli0, its sounds like it's a mount / umount issue if it's not beeing seen by USB. when you plug it in, cna you go to Places >> and see it listed there ?
[11:36] <coz_> cambosandman,  mmm  thats odd
[11:36] <chilli0> KE1HA, I can see the ipod touch , get into it and everything.
[11:36] <blue_> coz_ the only test option there was is to test memory
[11:36] <cambosandman> That command fixed it
[11:36] <chilli0> But to get the music showing in the default player , you need to edit the database.
[11:36] <coz_> cambosandman,  cool
[11:36] <guntbert> rooks: libnotify-bin
[11:37] <rooks> guntbert, what?
[11:37] <mynick2> .
[11:37] <coz_> blue_,  mmm ok  as i said... I am unfamiliar with this type  of install.... why usb install instead of cd?
[11:37] <cambosandman> coz_, will that work from now on or do I need to put that in a startup script?
[11:37] <blue_> dont have any cds :(
[11:37] <rooks> !info gm-notify
[11:37] <coz_> cambosandman,   I would check it  first to be sure...,reboot  see if metacity starts  up
[11:37] <guntbert> rooks: you asked for the command line tool to make notifies appear?
[11:38] <coz_> cambosandman,  if not ...come back ...I am sure someone here can help with the hunting down of the culprit
[11:38] <glickity> anyone have any luck viewing avchd files on their computers? i have 2 gigs ram, a 7800 nvidia card, and a intel core duo and the playback in increadibly choppy no matter what view i try to view it in
[11:38] <rooks> guntbert,  in which repository gm-notify is placed?
[11:38] <KE1HA> chilli0, yes, so it seems, that article has a fair bit of Info, there's a few more I'm looking at now.
[11:38] <blue_> i used the last one i had to install on my laptop which works perfect. but this machine is 64bit
[11:38] <rooks> guntbert, that is what i asked
[11:38] <ankit> i cannot change my password,please help
[11:38] <coz_> blue_,  ah and you had to download the 64 bit version?
[11:38] <blue_> yes
[11:39] <KE1HA> chilli0, here's another article on 10.04 iPod Support: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/02/28/ubuntu-10-04-supports-iphone-and-ipod-touch-out-of-the-box/
[11:39] <rooks> guntbert, since i have it installed on my lappy bunt i dont have a clue how i did it :P
[11:39] <blue_> well i didnt have to but...
[11:39] <guntbert> rooks: yes, but there is no package gm-notify, so it cannot be in any repo, I misinterpreted then...
[11:39] <chilli0> KE1HA, Thanks.
[11:39] <abhijit> rooks, https://launchpad.net/gm-notify
[11:39] <coz_> blue_,   then I am puzzled  unless the download itslelf was corrupt
[11:39] <coz_> blue_,  did you download the 64 bit version  again to be sure
[11:39] <cambosandman> rebooting
[11:39] <guntbert> rooks: or do you mean gmail-notify?
[11:39] <coz_> cambosandman,  okie dokie
[11:39] <blue_> i did have the same issue witht he 32 bit cd on this mahchine
[11:40] <KE1HA> chilli0, It says that RythumBox can play them straight form the device.
[11:40] <coz_> blue_,  ah!!
[11:40] <chilli0> KE1HA, I know that. I want to add new music to it.
[11:40] <rooks> guntbert, i think i have this https://launchpad.net/gm-notify running
[11:40] <coz_> blue_,  and this system has the raid configuration ...yes?
[11:40] <riyaz> hi
[11:40] <KE1HA> chilli0, check out the Ubuntu-One Music Store
[11:40] <blue_> coz_, ive installed on two others with no probs, yes
[11:40] <blue_> but
[11:40] <guntbert> !info gmail-notify | rooks
[11:40] <riyaz> i am riyaz
[11:41] <KE1HA> I know that one works as the Wife drove me nuts to get that set-up :-)
[11:41] <coz_> blue_,   ok then perhpas it is that configuration that is causing the issue... if so then I am the wrong person to help with this issue
[11:41] <blue_> coz_, ive even tried to install with out the raid
[11:41] <chilli0> KE1HA, I have all of my music already.
[11:41] <abhijit> !welcome | riyaz
[11:41] <coz_> blue_,  oh!!!
[11:41] <blue_> coz_, LOL
[11:41] <coz_> blue_,   mmmm
[11:41] <riyaz> ok surely
[11:41] <Raydiation> how fast is a system when you encrypt the root and home directory? is it worth it on a notebook with core 2 duo 2.1 ghz?
[11:41] <blue_> coz_, so I dont get it unless it just doesnt like my mobo
[11:41] <coz_> blue_,   this is puzzling... with all the systems  ...how does this system differ  in hardware set up?
[11:41] <rooks> guntbert, how does it relate to gm-notify?
[11:42] <shahrooz> I downloaded wget http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/archive/0276304b76b9.tar.bz2 and try to make it but I get lots of errors like make[1] *** all error 2 and such, can some one please test this package and tell me if its compilable or not ?
[11:42] <ankit> hey guys anyone of u know how to change passwords,i m not able to
[11:42] <riyaz> how to get all 3-d desktop effects in ubuntu??
[11:42] <KE1HA> chilli0, Outside of that, im affraid, Im outta ideas for ya.
[11:42] <Viking667> shahrooz: what sort of errors?
[11:42] <chilli0> KE1HA, Thanks anyway =P
[11:42] <Viking667> ankit: passwords for what?
[11:42] <guntbert> rooks: because its a "Highly Ubuntu integrated GMail Notifier" ? might be the very same
[11:42] <ankit> admin passwords
[11:42] <abhijit> !compiz | riyaz
[11:42] <coz_> ankit,    did you look here    http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[11:43] <ankit> seeing it now
[11:43] <coz_> ankit,   wait that  is a bit  too much  hold on
[11:43] <shahrooz> Viking667: http://paste.ubuntu.com/474904/
[11:43] <blue_> coz_, I have the k9n2Diamond from MSI, 8gig ddr2800, phenom x4 9850, two raptors in raid, two gtx280s sli
[11:43] <rooks> guntbert, i have this https://launchpad.net/gm-notify running, not any other, so i dont knwo, are you sure its the same package?
[11:43] <coz_> ankit,    open up  system/ preferences/About me
[11:44] <abhijit> ohhhhhhh nuuuuuuuuuuuu that psychocats!! :(
[11:44] <ankit> yep ,opened
[11:44] <alex87> how do i get a kernel higher than 2.6.32?
[11:44] <cambosandman> I do need to put the 'metacity replace' command somewhere
[11:44] <coz_> blue_,   none of that  seems to suggest an issue
[11:44] <guntbert> rooks: no, I am not, if you have exactly this running then its probably from *this* ppa :-)
[11:44] <coz_> ankit,  ok there should be  a  "Change password" button there ...yes?
[11:44] <blue_> coz_, i know rite? im so lost
[11:44] <naxa> what do you use for graphical svn client?
[11:45] <aswin> hw cn i play counter strike source in wine using wifi
[11:45] <mahioo> hello guy,
[11:45] <ankit> yes saw,but it does not changes
[11:45] <coz_> blue_,  definitly puzzling.... did you try downloading the alternate cd or the minimal install cd and try it from either or both of those??
[11:45] <AlphaWaves> im banned
[11:45] <Viking667> shahrooz: hm. Did you read the README file?
[11:45] <Viking667> (if there is one)
[11:45] <rooks> guntbert, i guess , meh, i should keep notice of installing one-off packages
[11:45] <rooks> :)
[11:45] <shahrooz> Viking667: yes, it says just type makeall and I did
[11:45] <Viking667> "make all"
[11:45] <Viking667> right.
[11:45] <mahioo> in ubuntu 10.04 and mint 9 , the xsplash has changed to plymouth or no !!
[11:45] <ankit> it does not changes to new one
[11:46] <Viking667> What are the prerequisites? It's missing something
[11:46] <coz_> mahioo,   I am not sure about mint
[11:46] <shahrooz> Viking667: I dont know, its for my dvb card
[11:46] <mahioo> coz_: and ubuntu
[11:46] <blue_> coz_, have not tried that. When I do get this installed, am I out of luck with a x-fi sound card or is there a way to get it to work?
[11:46] <guntbert> rooks: :-)
[11:47] <skumara> is there any way i can find out signal strength, download speed and connection type like 3G or EDGE or HSDPA in my mobile broadband in ubuntu?
[11:47] <Viking667> shahrooz: there's probably some stuff that provides what you're missing
[11:47] <shahrooz> Viking667: I didnt find anything, thats why I put the package cuz maybe someone sees something I dont
[11:47] <coz_> blue_,  again ...not sure... my first concern would be the actual install  and I would definitly try burning one or both the minimal and the alternate cd  at 1x  but be sure to check the md5sum on those... the  seeif the sound works
[11:47] <Wildcat_> ode.net
[11:48] <coz_> blue_,  there is always the alternative to manually compile alsa  ...most likely...for that
[11:48] <blue_> coz_, ok will do, thanks for your time bro
[11:48] <coz_> blue_,  no problem let me know
[11:48] <mahioo> coz_: tell me !!
[11:48] <blue_> coz_, looking for minimal cd now
[11:49] <shahrooz> Viking667: would you check it please ? http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/archive/0276304b76b9.tar.bz2
[11:49] <coz_> mahioo,   I dont know anything about mint...however in ubuntu  the plymouth images have changed from before  if that is what you mean
[11:49] <LinuxGuy2009> I tried doing an Ubuntu Minimal installation on an offline machine and it looks like it cant be done. Does the alternate CD have a minimal install option for an offline machine?
[11:49] <blue_> coz_, where do I find the minimal?
[11:49] <ankit> still no success,it does not changes the password
[11:49] <coz_> blue_,  the minimal install cd works very much like the  alternate install..hold on
[11:50] <mahioo> coz_: so in lucid there no xsplash , he moved to plymouth
[11:50] <wers> error building sparkleshare. got "No package 'ndesk-dbus-1.0' found" no 'ndesk-dbus-1.0 in the repos. how do I fix this?
[11:50] <coz_> mahioo,   as far as I know  that is correct
[11:50] <mahioo> coz_: ok
[11:51] <Viking667> shahrooz: can't do.
[11:51] <coz_> blue_,   read this while I look for the download link...<<, talks about installing onto raid    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[11:51] <blue_> coz_, im seeing 3 options, server, desktop (which i have) and alternate. so I go for alt image?
[11:51] <coz_> blue_,  hold on
[11:52] <shahrooz> Is there anyone to help me to install my dvb card ?
[11:52] <coz_> blue_,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[11:53] <freeride> guys, ho to make backup of a system?
[11:53] <riyaz> i want a 3d cube,3d cylinder effects of desktop in ubuntu 10.04, how can i get in??
[11:53] <Viking667> compiz-config
[11:53] <KE1HA> blue_, the minimal-install is just that though, very minimal. The server install has all of of good tools that are used often in most cases.
[11:53] <coz_> freeride,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[11:53] <Viking667> I can't remember the binary's name, it begins with c, I know that much
[11:53] <coz_> ccsm
[11:53] <KE1HA> and is a good command-line only distro.
[11:54] <Viking667> that's it
[11:54] <verbatimss> is there any important difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[11:54] <Viking667> aptitude builds its own database separate from apt, doesn't it?
[11:54] <coz_> verbatimss,  well there is ... I personally only use apt
[11:55] <riyaz> please tell me how to get 3d cube,sphere effects in ubuntu 10.04!!
[11:55] <Viking667> riyaz: ccsm.
[11:55] <Viking667> start that from a Terminal if yo ucan't find compiz configure in the menus.
[11:55] <Jelou> Hello, anyone with a Vodafone mobile knows how to access to the filesystem? i've tried BitPim but doesn't work
[11:56] <coz_> blue_,  one thing about minimal cd...everything is downloaded from the net  and  all of the current updates  are installed at this time...there will be a window to choose which type of install  use the arrows to scoll and the spacebar  to tick the box
[11:56] <Viking667> Jelou: what sort of phone? That often depends.
[11:56] <Viking667> Jelou: i.e. I use wammu to access the filesystem on our phone.
[11:56] <abhijit> i am not in my admin account. i cant access synaptic. so i want to know the package name for maryo game. any solution?
[11:56] <abhijit> hello?
[11:56] <Viking667> as in, Super Mario?
[11:57] <Viking667> I don't know if there is one.
[11:57] <Jelou> it's from Vodafone (720), actually a Huawei
[11:57] <guntbert> abhijit: aptitude search maryo
[11:57] <blue_> coz_, thanks I was just reading that. Glad I have nice bandwidth ;)
[11:57] <abhijit> guntbert, no result.
[11:57] <coz_> blue_,  :)
[11:57] <Viking667> Jelou: that's not the one like the OneTouch, is it?
[11:57] <LjL> abhijit: uh? there is a result
[11:57] <abhijit> Viking667, there is secret maryo chonicles game for linux.
[11:57] <LjL> !find maryo | abhijit
[11:58] <Viking667> smc
[11:58] <LjL> !info smc | abhijit
[11:58] <abhijit> LjL, no . i mean yes the game is in synaptic. but that aptitude search dont give any error
[11:58] <blue_> coz_, anyway, im going to hit the hay and let this dl. Ill try in the morning and let you know if your on. thanks for the help
[11:58] <LjL> abhijit: if you say so. i don't have an Ubuntu to test now, but i think if "!find" here gives a result, then so should "aptitude search"
[11:58] <coz_> blue_,  you will have the choice of kubuntu  ubuntu edubuntu and many other choices... I have just recently switched to edubuntu  since it has both kde and gnome libraries  and I chose the edubuntu desktop   but it also is must more speedy than if you installed  it on an exisiting ubuntu system
[11:58] <xenofex> what permission is required to modify a file's timestamps via touch command
[11:58] <medfly> any convenient way to delete everything but /home (and re-use that) on a re-install?
[11:59] <coz_> blue_,  not trying to influence...just offereing options :)
[11:59] <Jelou> no, Viking667
[11:59] <abhijit> LjL, aptitude search smc give the result. but not the maryo
[11:59] <Viking667> heh. those are the only results I'm getting for maryo
[11:59] <Kwpolska> abhijit: search they website
[11:59] <Kwpolska> their*
[11:59] <Viking667> is "smc" and related stuff
[11:59] <abhijit> LjL, guntbert thanks. now installing it. its smc
[12:00] <abhijit> Viking667, Kwpolska thanks
[12:00] <medfly> any convenient way to delete everything but /home (and re-use that) on a re-install?
[12:00] <Viking667> 's okay
[12:00] <Oisin777> konichua
[12:00] <Kwpolska> medfly: are you using additional partition for /home/?
[12:00] <KE1HA> blue_, coz_, biggest issue I've had wiht minimal, was network tools / support. If your NICS work aout of the box, it's all-gud, if not, prpare for headache's :-)
[12:00] <Oisin777> whola
[12:00] <Viking667> Oisin777: konnichi-wa. O genki desu ka? Eigo-o hanashimasu ka?
[12:01] <guntbert> kudos to LjL - aptitude search didn't provide the correct answer
[12:01] <medfly> Kwpolska, unfortunately no
[12:01] <Kwpolska> !jp | Viking667
[12:01] <coz_> KE1HA,  mmm I have not had that issue here ...yet...anyway
[12:01] <Kwpolska> medfly: you'll have to copy the data
[12:01] <elitexray> wow ubottu , you can type japanese!
[12:01] <LjL> weird
[12:01] <Kwpolska> elitexray: he can.
[12:01] <Kwpolska> I do too.
[12:01] <elitexray> That motivates me.
[12:01] <elitexray> Thanks for being here @ ubutto
[12:01] <coz_> KE1HA,  but thanks :)
[12:02] <Viking667> lololololo.
[12:02] <Viking667> ouch.
[12:02] <abhijit> !bot | elitexray
[12:02] <TiK> hello all, where o I dins the effects settings for windows min, and max
[12:02] <elitexray> wait, ubottu is a bot?
[12:02] <guntbert> Kwpolska: elitexray: Viking667: please keep ubuntu support
[12:02] <abhijit> elitexray, ofcourse!
[12:02] <TiK> hello all, where do I find the effects settings for windows min, and max
[12:02] <coz_> TiK,  are you running compiz?
[12:02] <elitexray> sorry guntbert for going off tangent
[12:03] <Kwpolska> guntbert: yes, yes, yes.
[12:03] <pdq> whenever i start teamviewer or picassa3, both are beta, my sound cuts out. other than rebooting the system how else could i 'reset' the sound?
[12:03] <elitexray> I
[12:03] <elitexray> I'll have to think of a problem for you to solve
[12:03] <TiK> coz: yes
[12:03] <coz_> TiK,   ok open ccsm
[12:03] <coz_> TiK,
[12:03] <TiK> coz: ok
[12:04] <TiK> coz: I want minimize to go to blocks
[12:04] <coz_> TiK,   on the left  click the  "Effects"  category
[12:04] <medfly> Kwpolska, not switching partitions or anything :|
[12:04] <coz_> TiK,  then click the "Animations" plugin to get into it's settings
[12:04] <medfly> I suppose I could try.
[12:04] <Kwpolska> medfly: copy it to another disk or whatever
[12:04] <coz_> TiK,  there you will see the minimize  animation tab
[12:04] <TiK> cuz: ah nice
[12:04] <coz_> TiK,   now just to be sure
[12:04] <medfly> ok nvm, so there is no convenient way, thx
[12:05] <medfly> just seemed like a pretty common thing someone would wanna do
[12:05] <coz_> TiK,    under that tab  ...and just below the words.."Open Effect"  you should see 3  animations listed in the field
[12:05] <riyaz> how can i extract the root password?\
[12:05] <TiK> coz: yes
[12:05] <oCean_> riyaz: there is no root pw
[12:05] <coz_> TiK,   click the first one in the list  then hit the "Edit" button just below    this is where the options are for that including choosing the animation
[12:05] <Viking667> geez. Stop trying to CRACK the machine already!
[12:05] <TiK> riyaz: you can change it with sudo
[12:05] <mahioo> can i see my plymouth theme without restating the system !!
[12:06] <TiK> coz: ok
[12:06] <riyaz> oh thanks
[12:06] <sidharth> hi there.
[12:06] <coz_> TiK,  let me know if you get hung up with it
[12:06] <oCean_> TiK:  we don't recommend setting a root pw
[12:06] <coz_> mahioo,  mmm  let me find the command hold on
[12:07] <ibrahim-kasem> I am losing the rdp connection to a remote server machine ! what should I do , i am the only one having this issue it happened after updating from 9.10 to the new luicd
[12:07] <sidharth> is it possible to connect to mysql database using a c based frontend. I mean are there any sockets in library for the same?
[12:07] <coz_>  mahioo    try this      sudo plymouth --show-splash ; for ((I=0; I<10; I++)); do sudo plymouth --update=test$I ; sleep 1; done; sudo plymouth quit
[12:08] <riyaz> i have given a password while installing but now when i give it to change to root by su i doesn't work but it works on gui,why it is so??
[12:08] <oCean_> sidharth: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[12:08] <TiK> coz: awesome
[12:08] <guntbert> !root | riyaz
[12:08] <TiK> coz: I just set it too random
[12:08] <abhijit> sidharth, ask in #mysql
[12:08] <guntbert> !sudo | riyaz
[12:08] <coz_> TiK,  cool   that is one options for sure :)
[12:08] <sidharth> thanx dude.
[12:08] <Karen_m> is there a gnome top?
[12:08] <Viking667> yup, I think there is.
[12:08] <KE1HA> Gtop
[12:09] <KE1HA> :-)
[12:09] <rooks> is it as pretty as htop?
[12:09] <mahioo> coz_: no :(
[12:09]  * Viking667 shrugs
[12:09] <michiellus> hello, why doesnt the ubuntu 10 install .iso have the option to choose for encrypted filesystem during installation setup?
[12:09] <coz_> mahioo,   understood...it didnt work here either ...hold on
[12:09] <guntbert> michiellus: use the alternate CD for that
[12:09] <ibrahim-kasem> why am i losing the rdp connection ??
[12:09] <TiK> question: How do I made the desktop backround changeevery 10 mins or so?
[12:10] <verbatimss> what system calls should I "grep" in order to know everything a given program stores in my disk (logs, temp files, etc.). I am "grepping" for O_WR, mkdir and rename at this moment. Is that enough or should I look for anything else?
[12:10] <michiellus> ;9
[12:10] <michiellus> :(
[12:10] <Kwpolska> ibrahim-kasem: your network might work inproperly
[12:10] <verbatimss> (I am using strace, by the way)
[12:10] <Kwpolska> also, if you're connecting with another linux, use ssh.
[12:10] <Kwpolska> unix*
[12:10] <ibrahim-kasem> Kwpolska, I am the only one having this issue, it happened after updating to lucid from karmic
[12:10] <KE1HA> rooks, define pretty :-)
[12:10] <Kwpolska> ibrahim-kasem: upgrading ubuntu is evil
[12:11] <Kwpolska> after upgrade some systems won't work
[12:11] <ibrahim-kasem> Kwpolska, really ? :(
[12:11] <mofaph_> hello, everyone. I'm a Chinese. I want to know what the book you guys use in the classroom?
[12:11] <Kwpolska> or work inproperly
[12:11] <Kwpolska> mofaph_: wha--?
[12:11] <mahioo> coz_: so nor solution
[12:11] <Kwpolska> !cn | mofaph_
[12:11] <ibrahim-kasem> Kwpolska, because I can't install a fresh copy :( the installing freezes
[12:11] <Kwpolska> ibrahim-kasem: so bad.
[12:11] <Viking667> mofaph_: we don't know. I don't teach in the classroom
[12:11] <coz_> oops  that command didnt work  ...have to restart  mahioo   be right back :)
[12:11] <riyaz> will compiz effects work on 512mb ram??
[12:11] <mofaph_> Viking667, oh, no.
[12:12] <Kwpolska> I haven't installed ubuntu 10.04, I'm not planning to install any ubuntus.
[12:12] <abhijit> mofaph_, which classroom?
[12:12] <mahioo> coz_: ok thank you
[12:12] <michiellus> thanks found it
[12:12] <mofaph_> abhijit, I'm sorry, I'm not good at English.  I mean in university, about computer.
[12:13] <abhijit> !ot | mofaph_
[12:13] <Kwpolska> mofaph_: join friends at #ubuntu-cn, #ubuntu-tw or #ubuntu-hk, they might help you in your language
[12:13] <KE1HA> Karen_m, There's several actually, stop, htop, itop, vtops, stop, atop, mtop, an ntop I think that's most of them.
[12:13] <abhijit> mofaph_, also ask in #programming
[12:13] <rooks> KE1HA, pretty = a bit less shiny :P
[12:13] <KE1HA> :-)
[12:14] <mofaph_> Kwpolska, I have been ask at #ubuntu-cn, they said I had better ask here.
[12:14] <Kwpolska> mofaph_: no.
[12:16] <mofaph_> Kwpolska, What's your English book? I just want to know the difference between our English book.
[12:16] <abhijit> mofaph_, join ##english
[12:16] <Kwpolska> mofaph_: google. en_US.
[12:16] <Kwpolska> and wohle intjernet in en_US.
[12:16] <mofaph_> abhijit, ok. I will.
[12:17] <mofaph_> abhijit, and, thank you.
[12:17] <abhijit> mofaph_, welcome.
[12:17] <Oisin777> alan`
[12:18] <Oisin777> alex88
[12:18] <riyaz_>  will compiz 3d effects work on 512mb ram or it needs any graphics card??
[12:19] <Oisin777> does anyone want to be friends
[12:19] <abhijit> !ot > Oisin777
[12:20] <LetsGo67> How do I get rid of DansGuardian completely?  I tried the instructions and they didn't work.
[12:20] <riyaz_> oisin777:yes i want
[12:20] <skumara> i still cannot find a software for hwawei modem that can tell me signal strength!!!
[12:20] <Kwpolska> LetsGo67: wgat is this?
[12:20] <Viking667> skumara: wammu doesn't do it?
[12:20] <Kwpolska> skumara: don't use more than 3 !
[12:21] <Gintulis> can i copy user1 home folder to other user2 on the same mashine?
[12:21] <Kwpolska> skumara: wghy do you need that?
[12:21] <Kwpolska> Gintulis: machine and  yes
[12:21] <Viking667> hang on... _modem_ ?
[12:21] <skumara> Kwpolska, why not more than 3!
[12:22] <kriss3d> Can anyone tell me what this means ?: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.34_2.6.34-10.00.Custom-bt8_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/lib/firmware', which is also in package udev
[12:22] <LetsGo67> Kwpolska: proxy/filter to block bad sites.
[12:22] <Kwpolska> skumara: b'coz of it's not normal
[12:22] <Kwpolska> l;I wouldn't install something like this.
[12:22] <Kwpolska> kriss3d: some system problems
[12:22] <LetsGo67> Kwpolska: Now it's installed on the router, but I want to get it off the PC.
[12:23] <kriss3d> Kwpolska,  uhmm yeah i sorta figured that out.. thanks.. THAT really helped alot :D
[12:23] <g0tcha> hmm is it normal for ubuntu to b slow if booted from USB?
[12:23] <Legendary_Bibo> yeah kind of
[12:24] <Kwpolska> LetsGo67: find some uninstaller or remove its package
[12:24] <g0tcha> hmm so what version is best if planning to install it on a USB stick?
[12:24] <g0tcha> the best verstion"
[12:24] <riyaz_> will 3d effects work on 512 mb ram?? pls any ine tell..
[12:24] <Viking667> riyaz_: of COURSE they'll work. but it depends upon the card, the kernel and the drivers.
[12:25] <skumara> Kwpolska, cannot find wghy in synaptics.
[12:25] <Legendary_Bibo> g0tcha: If you're making a Live USB to install then 10.04 is fine, but if you're just making a Live USB to run anywhere you should try something like Puppy, or slackware
[12:25] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz: Yeah, but it really depends on your card.
[12:25] <Kwpolska> skumara: wut?
[12:25] <Kwpolska> a typo is a typo and it's not a package
[12:25] <riyaz_> viking667:it means graphics card needed??
[12:26] <skumara> ok
[12:26] <Kwpolska> riyaz_: each computer needs it, lolowut
[12:26] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz: yeah what's your graphics card?
[12:26] <Kwpolska> Legendary_Bibo: I propose dsl.
[12:26] <Viking667> well, YES. You can't view stuff in graphics without a graphics card either on the motherboard or in a slot.
[12:26] <skumara> Kwpolska, i need that to see what is my umts signal strength in my huawei modem.
[12:26] <Viking667> if you're reading stuff on a monitor, odds are, it's plugged into a video controller.
[12:26] <Legendary_Bibo> Kwpolska: Fine choice! :)
[12:26] <Kwpolska> skumara: it's unneeded.
[12:26] <riyaz_> sorry i don't have graphics card..
[12:26] <Kwpolska> Legendary_Bibo: thx.
[12:26] <Kwpolska> riyaz_: lolwut
[12:27] <riyaz_> what is lolwut??
[12:27] <Kwpolska> riyaz_: what is google?
[12:27] <skumara> my modem connection is very slow. i need to check wheather it is signal problem or not?
[12:27] <Kwpolska> skumara: no idea.
[12:27] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz_: uhhhh...Then you won't even be able to run X, much less effects
[12:27] <LetsGo67> Kwpolska: Doesn't do the trick.
[12:28] <Kwpolska> without gfx card you won't be able to use linux.
[12:28] <coz_> riyaz_,   are you runnin a server?
[12:28] <Kwpolska> LetsGo67: no idea. googled?
[12:28] <coz_> riyaz_,  or are you on gnome or kde desktop?
[12:28] <Kwpolska> riyaz_: if yes, NOBODY instsalls graphics on servers.
[12:29] <Legendary_Bibo> don't all computers have at least an integrated graphics chip so you could at least run the console mode
[12:29] <Viking667> nope.
[12:29] <Viking667> well, kinda
[12:29] <Viking667> they _may_ have a terminal mode instead
[12:29] <Palm76> Hey guys. I have a problem. I completely erased my MBR with the dd command (yeah, I  know it's dumb). Debians diskutility still show the partition and the correct size (in bytes also). Is there a way to use that information to recreate the partition table?
[12:30] <Legendary_Bibo> well yeah doesn't that use some form of video or graphcis card?
[12:30] <coz_> Palm76,   if no one can help here you may want to try the ##Linux channel
[12:30] <Palm76> Not, partition, but partitions
[12:30] <Legendary_Bibo> Palm76: That's out of my league, you could just reinstall
[12:31] <riyaz_> coz:i am not running server
[12:31] <Kwpolska> riyaz_: so you need a graphics card
[12:31] <coz_> riyaz_,  ok  open a terminal  type     lspci | grep -i vga
[12:31] <Palm76> Legendary_Bibo, yeah, but that would mean loosing all my datat
[12:31] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz_:If you don't have a graphics card then how are you talking here?
[12:31] <Viking667> serial port
[12:31] <Viking667> ?
[12:32] <Takatori> Hah, my Ubuntu server went up in smoke yesterday...  Power pack blew.
[12:32] <Legendary_Bibo> Palm76: Well I guess you could back it up, or you can try to find the answers you're looking for on the linux channel
[12:32] <Viking667> ugh. Messy.
[12:32] <Legendary_Bibo> Takatori: That blows
[12:32] <Takatori> Legendary_Bibo xD
[12:33] <Palm76> Legendary_Bibo, I'm going to visit the Linux channel. What's the adrress?
[12:33] <riyaz_> coz:"00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)" is displayed
[12:33] <KE1HA> :-) Literally
[12:33] <LetsGo67> Kwpolska: Yes.  Lots.
[12:33] <pre7o> hey, ich mounte mit smb Ordner meines Servers z.b. in /home/Music. Nun werden aber unter "Places" die Ordner nochmal angezeigt. Wie z.B. wechseldatenträger. Was ich aber nicht verstehe, da der mount Punkt nicht /media ist.
[12:33] <Legendary_Bibo> Palm76: #Linux
[12:33] <Kwpolska> !de | pre7o
[12:33] <Palm76> #Linux
[12:33] <Viking667> pre7o: Sprache Englisch?
[12:34] <Palm76> ok
[12:34] <riyaz_> coz:can u get me
[12:34] <glickity> anyone have any luck playing avchd files in ubuntu?
[12:35] <coz_> riyaz_,   ok  I see  you have an intel card on that... the driver for that card should have initiated when you installed ubuntu
[12:35] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz_: you do have a graphics card then, I don't know if it's powerful enough to run effects
[12:35] <glickity> when i try to play them they are super choppy, horrible sound, dropped frames, etc
[12:35] <coz_> riyaz_,   are you having video issues ?
[12:35] <Legendary_Bibo> glickity: What graphics card?
[12:35] <pre7o> ubottu, Viking667 ... sorry wrong window
[12:35] <coz_> riyaz_,   tell me what the problem is
[12:35] <riyaz_> coz_:no vedio is running good..
[12:36] <glickity> Legendary_Bibo, like a 7800gt nvidia
[12:36] <coz_> riyaz_,   ok   then tell me what the issue is :)
[12:37] <Legendary_Bibo> glickity: Well we can rule out the graphics card. I run HD videos on an old GeForce480MX and the videos are smooth
[12:37] <riyaz_> coz_:problem is that i like to get some 3d desktop effects i have installed compiz too!!
[12:37] <glickity> hmm
[12:37] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz_:System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[12:37] <coz_> riyaz_,   ok what exactly and how did you install compiz?? it is already installed
[12:37] <abhijit> whats the difference betwen playonlinux and wine?
[12:38] <erUSUL> abhijit: playonlinux is a gui/script on top wine
[12:38] <coz_> abhijit,  not sure exactly but i hear wine is more reliable  but that is just hearsay
[12:38] <kriss3d> abhijit,  nothing afaik. the playonlinux is merely a front for it
[12:38] <Legendary_Bibo> abhijit: Playonlinux is a frontend to Wine which makes it easier to setup and tweak games to play in wine
[12:38] <bilalakhtar> abhijit: playonlinux is just a frontend of wine
[12:38] <abhijit> :-o
[12:38] <bilalakhtar> !playonlinux | abhijit
[12:38] <bilalakhtar> sorry
[12:38] <riyaz_> coz_:some of its files r installed as default some of i installed through synaptic package manager..
[12:38] <KE1HA> riyaz_, effects will work (just not very well). The UB requirements for a Desktop now days are stated at 1GB I believe. With 512MB, it's gonna be choppy at best.
[12:39] <LetsGo67> Kwpolska: Also I tried to stop dansguardian/tinyproxy/firehol but problem is still there.
[12:39] <coz_> riyaz_,  ok   and did you also install   compizconfg-settings-manager?
[12:39] <abhijit> coz_, erUSUL kriss3d Legendary_Bibo bilalakhtar so i now install only wine or both? which is better?
[12:39] <bilalakhtar> abhijit: when you install playonlinux wine is automatically installed
[12:39] <atude> how do I uninstall an application and remove all the settings with it?
[12:39] <kriss3d> abhijit,  wine will be just fine
[12:39] <kriss3d> and yes.. playonlinux will install wine too
[12:39] <riyaz_> coz_:yes i installed it ..
[12:39] <abhijit> bilalakhtar, kriss3d okk. now installing. thank all
[12:39] <coz_> abhijit,   in all honesty I dont use either  of them so I am not a good  source of information for this one :)
[12:39] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz_: I ran 3d just fine in Xubuntu with only 256mb of RAM and an 64mb graphics card
[12:40] <abhijit> coz_, :)
[12:40] <coz_> riyaz_,   ok and did you go to  system/preferencea/ appearance..visual effects tab
[12:40] <bilalakhtar> atude: use synaptic package manager and select the package you wanna remove and select 'Complete remove'
[12:40] <coz_> riyaz_,   tell me which is ticked there?
[12:40] <rezolute> KE1HA: you're insane. effects wont work well with 512 meg of ram? lol.
[12:40] <atude> bilalakhtar: I originally used apt-get to install. does that matter?
[12:40] <rezolute> do you people even realize what bs you're saying?
[12:40] <Legendary_Bibo> abhijit: I think play on will install Wine anyways, it doesn't hurt to have both
[12:40] <bilalakhtar> atude: just type sudo apt-get purge <PACKAGE NAME>
[12:41] <KE1HA> Legendary_Bibo, probably not running allot, and if so, Im wouldnt' thikg the system to be very responsive.
[12:41] <riyaz_> coz_:Extra is ticked.
[12:41] <verbatimss> Legendary_Bibo, don't you get the impression with XFCE kind of like the screen hurt your eyes and, at the same time, that the fonts rendering is bad quality?¿
[12:41] <bilalakhtar> atude: That works the same way as Synaptic
[12:41] <coz_> riyaz_,  ok  then open compizconfig settings manager
[12:41] <MaRk-I> atude: with apt just add --purge
[12:41] <bilalakhtar> atude: Like I told you, sudo apt-get purge <PACKAGE NAME>
[12:41] <Legendary_Bibo> verbatimss: lol the monitor is so old and crappy it does that on its own. I didn't have any issues with it.
[12:42] <riyaz_> coz_:i have opened it..
[12:42] <coz_> riyaz_,   you may want to meet me in #compiz for this discussion though
[12:42] <atude> bilalakhtar: you didn't have to say it twice. Thanks :)
[12:42] <verbatimss> bilalakhtar, how would you check which dependencies a given program has with apt-get? and with dpkg?
[12:42] <kriss3d> anyone here playing wow in ubuntu ?
[12:42] <bilalakhtar> verbatimss: apt-cache show <PACKAGE NAME>
[12:42] <Legendary_Bibo> rezolute: what are you talking about?
[12:42] <coz_> riyaz_,  do you know how to switch channels on your irc client?
[12:43] <atude> kriss3d: what is wow?
[12:43] <verbatimss> Legendary_Bibo, with XFCE something doesn't work like GNOME in the "hurting my eyes" sense, even though I configure the fonts, screen resolution and refresh rate exactly the same I do in gnome (in gnome it doesn't hurt)
[12:43] <coz_> World of Warcraft I blieve  = WOW
[12:43] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz_:XChat>New>Open Channel tab
[12:44] <riyaz_> coz_:sorry i am new user i do no
[12:44] <bilalakhtar> !WoW | kriss3d
[12:44] <intel> who
[12:44] <atude> bilalakhtar: are you sure that removes all settings as well?
[12:44] <coz_> riyaz_,   generally  where you type here  just type   /join #compiz
[12:44] <bilalakhtar> atude: yes
[12:44] <verbatimss> bilalakhtar, I was willing to be able to show the dependencies before having downloaded such program (no cache installed). If I have downloaded the program there's a much more convenient and direct method using dpkg packagename.deb
[12:44] <atude> bilalakhtar: because I reinstall the application and the settings are the same.
[12:44] <riyaz_>  /join #compiz
[12:44] <bilalakhtar> verbatimss: just a minute, I give you exact command
[12:44] <kriss3d> coz_ yup. im just having an odd problem that when i have my firewall on (iptables) it often get 3-4 disconnects before getting into the game. But it eventually gets in so its not like dropped packages.. what could cause this ?
[12:44] <bilalakhtar> atude: check it, if not, then come back here
[12:45] <atude> bilalakhtar: I did
[12:45] <verbatimss> okay, thanks bilalakhtar
[12:45] <Legendary_Bibo> verbatimss: It's your theme, I turned mine into an Windows 7 clone and it looked great. Changing panel bars is annoying though, but it at least doesn't have problems like with the gnome panel
[12:45] <coz_> kriss3d,   wow I am batting 100 here today.... i dotn think I can help with this one :)
[12:45] <bilalakhtar> ate?
[12:45] <coz_> riyaz_,   ok its not important
[12:45] <glickity> anyone know how to get smooth playback of .mts files on ubuntu?
[12:45] <bilalakhtar> verbatimss: Have you run sudo apt-get update ?
[12:45] <coz_> riyaz_,   now you have the settings manager opened.... on the left are the categories
[12:45] <bilalakhtar> !codecs | glickity
[12:45] <kriss3d> coz_  100ms in wow ?? thats pretty descent
[12:46] <coz_> kriss3d,  ok cool :) I believe you :)
[12:46] <riyaz_> coz_:yes exactly..
[12:46] <coz_> riyaz_,  ok  click the  Effects  category on the left
[12:46] <verbatimss> Legendary_Bibo, it's not the theme believe me. When I say "hurt my eyes" I am not just being metaphorical, I am being quite literal. Fluxbox doesn't even have a theme and it doesn't hurt my eyes... in fact fluxbox looks even better than Gnome in the fonts department (when it comes to the terminal at least), although it has problems managing different firefox fonts
[12:46] <riyaz_> coz_:i have made it
[12:47] <coz_> riyaz_, make sure these  plugins are ticked...Animations...animations add- on....cube refelction and deformation...fading windows...window decoration and wobbly windows
[12:47] <verbatimss> bilalakhtar, I have run sudo apt-get update, yes. Okay, maybe I should tell you what I can do first. Do you know a program called Keryx? I want to be able to do manually the underlying processes Keryx follows
[12:48] <coz_> riyaz_,  tell me when you have finished with that
[12:48] <Legendary_Bibo> verbatimss: I'm like that with Openbox, I have Lubuntu now instead of my Win7 clone Xubuntu, and I hate the fact that menus are all freaking white, and I can't change the colors, at least I have elementary icons
[12:48] <verbatimss> I guess that it is all about downloading the main package and afterwards running dpkg -f packagename.deb
[12:48] <bilalakhtar> verbatimss: You can use apt-cache show <PACKAGENAME> when you don't have the package installed
[12:48] <bilalakhtar> or having it downloaded, verbatimss
[12:49] <verbatimss> bilalakhtar, where does "apt-cache show" LOOK in order to get to know what <PACKAGENAME> depends on?
[12:49] <bilalakhtar> verbatimss: It looks in the local package info cache. If you have run apt-get update then it will work
[12:49] <bilalakhtar> for sure ^^
[12:50] <littlepenguin> how can i bandwidth limit synaptic donwloads??
[12:51] <riyaz_> coz_:i ll tell pls wait
[12:51] <HinHin> by pulling ethernet plug
[12:51] <verbatimss> bilalakhtar, but is the information "apt-cache show" give relative to my system or, on the contrary, does it give info on all the dependencies that such program needs -regardless of the distro -?
[12:51] <HinHin> :P
[12:51] <littlepenguin> hinhin that would be the firewall activated :d
[12:51] <HinHin> littlepenguin, haha
[12:51] <Legendary_Bibo> littlepenquin: You can't
[12:51] <HinHin> just a sec
[12:52] <riyaz_> coz_:i ticked it all
[12:52] <HinHin> yes you can... :\ not sure how easy is it to setup though
[12:52] <wessel> hello, how can I log in to another linux shell account and send some files there?
[12:52] <littlepenguin> when i download somethings with synaptic it grabs the whole bandwidth and my neighbour the owner of net gets nothing
[12:52] <coz_> riyaz_,  ok now click the  Desktop category
[12:52] <wessel> On windows I used to use winSCP for this
[12:52] <oCean_> wessel: linux has scp
[12:52] <littlepenguin> legendary : can t??
[12:52] <riyaz_> coz_:yes made i made it
[12:52] <KE1HA> littlepenguin, an app called Trickle does it.
[12:52] <oCean_> wessel: scp file user@remotemachine:/path/to/location
[12:52] <Legendary_Bibo> wessel: By ssh tunneling, I had a professor show me an application called Putty that he used
[12:52] <coz_> riyaz_,    disable  Desktop wall...then make sure   Desktop cube...rotate cube..show desktop...and viewport switcher are enabled
[12:53] <wessel> ah, forgot linux has scp in console xD!
[12:53] <littlepenguin> ke1ha nice thanks
[12:53] <coz_> riyaz_,  do you want the cube??
[12:53] <riyaz_> coz_:i made it..
[12:53] <KE1HA> littlepenguin, then add something like : trickle -s -d 25 gksu synaptic  for your shortcut, see Trickle for more info.
[12:53] <Legendary_Bibo> I'm awesome, I just finished making a shell script that uses espeak to sing the fresh prince of bel-air intro
[12:54] <riyaz_> coz_:so so thanks i got the effects, so thanks..
[12:54] <coz_> riyaz_,  ok
[12:54] <riyaz_> coz_:-)
[12:54] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz_: You'll get bored of it
[12:54] <coz_> riyaz_,   if you need more help with compiz let me know
[12:55] <wessel> oCean_, if I'm logged in with ssh on this remote machine how do I acces the machine I'm working on?
[12:55] <Legendary_Bibo> riyaz_: Try the expo effect
[12:55] <x86br> alright,..back
[12:55] <Legendary_Bibo> wessel: Remote terminal?
[12:55] <littlepenguin> ke1ha thats nice ..what i wanted :D
[12:55] <bilalakhtar> verbatimss: It is relative to your distro
[12:55] <verbatimss> bilalakhtar, I have just run "apt-cache show PROGRAM" versus "dpkg -f PROGRAM_long_name.deb" and they seem to display the same basic information: all the deps the packet needs, regardless of what you have or don't have in your system, i
[12:55] <wessel> yes I did ssh user@remotemachine
[12:55] <oCean_> wessel: so you want the remote files to be on your local machine?
[12:55] <wessel> I had to find out where I want to copy the files to
[12:56] <wessel> no the other way around, I want files from the machine I work on to be copied to the public_html of the remote machine
[12:56] <Legendary_Bibo> wessel: You probably have to setup a network share file
[12:56] <glickity> anyone have any luck getting smooth .mts playback?
[12:56] <oCean_> wessel: well, that is in my previous example
[12:56] <Bennit> Hi
[12:56] <verbatimss> bilalakhtar, I don't know to what extent is relative to the distro, since karmic comes with libc6 already installed and yet the command states the package's dependence on libc6
[12:56] <x86br> god, someone help me. I want boot ubuntu using external usb hd for install on internal laptop hd.
[12:56] <Legendary_Bibo> glickity: I've never heard of that format
[12:56] <atude> I need to install cmake 2.8.1, but the default is 2.8.0.. what do I do?
[12:56] <KE1HA> littlepenguin, I've not used it fer a while but did in the past. works good.
[12:56] <wessel> oCean_, but what if the path/to/location is really long?
[12:56] <bilalakhtar> verbatimss: It is general
[12:57] <bilalakhtar> verbatimss: A computer cannot function without libc6
[12:57] <x86br> KE1HA no advance bro :(
[12:57] <Bennit> Is there a general way (using gnome) to set the application opened when doing something like mailto:<email>, or general 'email' option in programs
[12:57] <glickity> Legendary_Bibo, its avchd
[12:57] <oCean_> wessel: there are 2 ways:  1) scp local_file account@remotemachine:/path/to/file 2) scp account@remotemachine:/path/to/file .  <-- the dot being your current workingdir
[12:57] <KE1HA> Oh sri, did see your post hold on.
[12:57] <x86br> KE1HA i try boot-menage but doesnt make any diference
[12:57] <x86br> manage*
[12:58] <Legendary_Bibo> glickity: Which media player are you trying to play it in?
[12:58] <suprengr> Hi folks.  Is it ok (grub included) to have a multi-boot with both 32bit and 64bit Ubuntu?  I want to move to 64 bit whilst (temp only)  keeping current 10.04 32bit going till 64 proven ok.
[12:58] <x86br> on boot-manager shows mine 3 internal drivers (ntfs) and a external usb drive (mbr)
[12:58] <atude> I need to install cmake 2.8.1, but the default is 2.8.0.. what do I do?
[12:58] <KE1HA> x86br, I would do, based on out previos conversation: disable the Internal HD, then install to the USB Drive. If that works, then do a Dual-Boot install, having Grub be your boot-manager.
[12:58] <Legendary_Bibo> atude: install it
[12:59] <shiv> need a good incremental backup gui based program for ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[12:59] <kriss3d> suprengr, im pretty sure grub and your computer wont care at all. as long as you keep it on seperated partitions
[12:59] <x86br> KE1HA already do that,..same error
[12:59] <atude> Legendary_Bibo: Yeah, I got that part... how?
[12:59] <KE1HA> x86br, you need to verify that the external USB drive is capable of Booting, until you sort that out, ya can't go any further.
[12:59] <atude> Legendary_Bibo: there seems to be only one version in repo
[12:59] <littlepenguin> k1han whats that first i worked now its at maximum??
[12:59] <x86br> oki doki
[12:59] <Legendary_Bibo> atude: google it, and it'll be a deb probably
[12:59] <suprengr> kriss3d: would most definitely be on different partitions... cheers.
[13:00] <atude> Legendary_Bibo: so it's not something that's going to be in the repo?
[13:00] <KE1HA> x86br, Something, and Im not sure what, probably BIOS related, is preventing that Drive from being able to be a Boot-Drive Device.
[13:00] <Legendary_Bibo> atude:nope, sometimes you have to google for some of the libs
[13:00] <atude> Legendary_Bibo: it's not a lib, but okay.
[13:01] <Legendary_Bibo> atude: You could also find a PPA of it, but if it's for one program the PPA isn't worth it
[13:01] <KE1HA> littlepenguin, -d 25 is the Kbps throttle.
[13:01] <atude> Legendary_Bibo: I see
[13:01] <atude> Legendary_Bibo: Thanks
[13:01] <Legendary_Bibo> atude: np
[13:01] <abhijit> Legendary_Bibo, ok
[13:02] <coz_> be back later
[13:02] <XunZi_> what tool to use to rip a cd audio to mp3?
[13:02] <x86br> KE1HA yea maybe thats it. Im gona leave and buy a flash drive. Nothin more to do :S. Many thanks for the help
[13:02] <Legendary_Bibo> XunZi_: Brasero
[13:02] <abhijit> XunZi_, brasero?
[13:02] <KE1HA> littlepenguin, another way to throttle apt-get is through gksu gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/76download
[13:03] <KE1HA> Dl-Limit "25"
[13:03] <Legendary_Bibo> I have a request, can people change their names to get rid of the underscores?
[13:03] <XunZi_> Legendary_Bibo, it does not have anoption to rip
[13:03] <KE1HA> littlepenguin, here's a simple how-to: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2717695/ubuntu_limiting_download_speed_in_synaptic.html
[13:04] <MaRk-I> XunZi_: audio cd extractor
[13:04] <XunZi_> Marine__, what is the command?
[13:05] <KE1HA> littlepenguin, here's another approach: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/05/howto-limit-uploaddownload-speeds-and.html
[13:05] <TiK> hmmm'
[13:05] <Legendary_Bibo> XunZi_: you could go into the software center and probably find like 10 of them, plus I think Rythmbox can rip them for you
[13:05] <oCean_> XunZi_: hm, I see 'grip' is removed from the repositories. It was there in jaunty
[13:06] <KE1HA> littlepenguin, note, that trickle is agian used for this, so I'd circumvent the previous, and go with the origial source, trickle.
[13:06] <steve__> hello, need help. how do I use the cd command in terminal to change dir to a folder named using greek font?
[13:06] <steve__> example: cd /home/steve/λήψεις
[13:06] <XunZi_> Legendary_Bibo, I need one where I can set the bitrate
[13:06] <Legendary_Bibo> steve__:you could copy and paste the location
[13:07] <MaRk-I> XunZi_: go to software center and look for cd extractor or sound juicer
[13:07] <steve__> dir command shows me the location but the cd command shows not found error
[13:07] <oCean_> XunZi_: actually 'grip' does a very decent job (with bitrate option, yes)
[13:07] <Legendary_Bibo> XunZI: Asunder
[13:08] <XunZi_> sound-juicer can't rip to mp3
[13:08] <iceroot> steve__: i guess you have to escape the name, easiest way is using cd TAB until the correct folder is there, then you know how to escape something like that in the future
[13:08] <marianne_> hiya, i was just wondering where the console and X keymap files are on ubuntu 10.04? i want to do a slightly custom keymap
[13:09] <steve__> iceroot_: what should i type
[13:09] <Legendary_Bibo> marianne_:System>Preferences>Keyboard shortcuts
[13:09] <steve__> ?
[13:09] <myke2> Hello, everybody
[13:09] <iceroot> steve__: cd then press tab until the correct folder is there
[13:09] <myke2> Is there anyone succeed to compile the linux kernel
[13:09] <oCean_> XunZi_: there is ppa for grip. It can do what you need
[13:09] <iceroot> !anyone | myke2
[13:10] <marianne_> Legendary_Bibo, i want to be able to make a new keymap, for the console as well as X, so i need to find the files?
[13:10] <marianne_> i think
[13:10] <kballash> you might like to try CADSTD-LITE .... its a windows program but runs well under wine I download casstd-lite and get the .exe file.  I go to wine and then browse c drive and try to execute casstd-lite and it still isn't running how do I run stuff through wine
[13:10] <steve__> all those possibilities?
[13:10] <Legendary_Bibo> myke2: uhhh...you do know that you don't have to compile a kernel for Ubuntu right?
[13:10] <juro> anyone else experiencing Chrome as a hog?
[13:11] <Legendary_Bibo> marianne_: like a keyboard layout?
[13:11] <myke2> Ok,but I compile the linux kernel and it makes ndiswrapper failed
[13:11] <KE1HA> juro, FireFox, yes, but not so much on Chrome.
[13:11] <juro> KE1HA, Firefox is ok on my side (although not super great), Chrome just sux
[13:11] <Legendary_Bibo> myke2: Why are you compiling a kernel?
[13:12] <oCean_> XunZi_: you found it?
[13:12] <bakr> hi
[13:12] <abhijit> hello
[13:12] <marianne_> Legendary_Bibo, yeah, i wanna swap @ and " but otherwise have a UK layout (well, UK dvorak)... should be a simple modification of layout files :) they're in /usr/share/keymaps for the console under debian, but not in ubuntu it seems
[13:12] <XunZi_> oCean_, still trying sound-juicer, installing codecs at the moment
[13:13] <KE1HA> juro, Epiphany is all I'e been using lately, super-speedy.
[13:13] <bakr> hmm is anybody here
[13:13] <bilalakhtar> bakr: yes
[13:13] <oCean_> XunZi_: ah, ok. Just in case: Grip screenshots: http://nostatic.org/grip/index.shtml, Grip ppa is at https://launchpad.net/~rapido/+archive/grip
[13:13] <myke2> Only curiosity
[13:13] <abhijit> bakr, no. nobody is here. only 1417 bots
[13:13] <juro> KE1HA, does it have any addons?
[13:13] <kballash> anyone got a guide to show me how to use wine
[13:13] <abhijit> !wine | kballash
[13:14] <KE1HA> juro, few, not loads. I use firefox for any OpenPGP stuff, but mostly Epi.
[13:14] <myke2> I want to run a driver
[13:14] <steve__> should I rename all folders in greek to english to use terminal cd command successfully?
[13:14] <XunZi_> my repo list is filled with ppa's :+
[13:14] <juro> KE1HA, I use Firefox with Firebug extensively
[13:14] <KE1HA> juro, http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/FreeBSD/6.2-release/sparc64/epiphany-extensions-2.16.1.tbz.447447.html
[13:15] <Legendary_Bibo> marianne_: Try Keyboard Preferences, you can load several layouts there
[13:15] <XunZi_> ty oCean_
[13:15] <oCean_> XunZi_: Have fun :) I just love grip, since it has all the capabilities I need.
[13:15] <myke2> modprobe said that
[13:16] <myke2> NdisWrapper not found
[13:16] <steve__> for god sake only english dir are valid in terminal/
[13:16] <KE1HA> juro, for the extensions, just do: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser epiphany-extensions
[13:16] <marianne_> Legendary_Bibo, yes, i can load premade ones, but i need to make my own
[13:16] <danielb> welcome....
[13:16] <KE1HA> juro, or use the Package Manager.
[13:16] <steve__> nice!
[13:17] <Legendary_Bibo> steve__: out of curiosity, why do have files with the greek alphabet in their names?
[13:17] <Guest66825> please! server for dvx
[13:17] <juro> KE1HA, ok, I'll have a look at that .. are there any Flash problems with Epiphany?
[13:17] <steve__> they were made during greek installation of ubuntu
[13:17] <steve__> automatically
[13:17] <steve__> shall i rename all?
[13:17] <abhijit> !details | Guest66825
[13:18] <KE1HA> juro, in the package manager, search Epiphany and it pulls all the add-on's and extension, you can read about each of them there before installing.
[13:18] <matt_> my netbook screen smashed so I'm using my TV to 'mirror' the screen - problem is as soon as I 'un-mirror' the screen I lose the top and bottom toolbars. Mirrored screen is 800x600, but I want 1028x
[13:19] <Legendary_Bibo> steve__: I hadn't realized the ancient greek alphabet was still in use outside of math
[13:19] <steve__> legendary_Bibo: should i rename all in english?
[13:19] <myke2> D_Link
[13:19] <KE1HA> juro, it has Media, P2P, flash and all that, but not all the fancy FF add-on's
[13:19] <Legendary_Bibo> steve__:It would probably save you a lot of trouble
[13:19] <juro> matt, I don't think a normal TV supports 1028x ....
[13:19] <myke2> D-Link network wireless
[13:19] <XunZi_> oCean_, I want a high quality rip what bitrate should I set it to?
[13:19] <juro> KE1HA, ok, I'll check up on that
[13:20] <steve__> then why is installation programmed to make files in greek?
[13:20] <licensed> hello my friends! anybody knows how can i do to change my user password if my /home is encrypted?\
[13:20] <matt_> juro: it works, but the toolbars disappear - I have the desktop etc...
[13:20] <steve__> I' m not talking about ancient but modern greek
[13:20] <Legendary_Bibo> steve__:Apparently Canonical live is some weird fantasy world where they thing ancient greek = modern greek
[13:21] <steve__> sorry could you explain more?
[13:21] <Legendary_Bibo> steve__:Canonical lacks knowledge of linguistics
[13:22] <juro> KE1HA, in the "Ubuntu Software Center" there are two Epophanys ... "Epiphany (epiphany-browser)" and "Epiphany Web Browser (Gecko)" - which one?
[13:22] <steve__> Thank you all! Good Job here!
[13:22] <steve__> Bye!\
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Hi
[13:23] <KE1HA> Web-Browser
[13:23] <OpenSourceCode> Hi, does anyone know how to change computer name and username?
[13:23] <urlwolf> in midnight commader, how do I do so when it launches an external program, it does it with ampersand?
[13:24] <OpenSourceCode> Does anyone?
[13:24] <Legendary_Bibo> OpenSourceCode: System>Administration>Users and Groups
[13:24] <KE1HA> juro, let me check-real quick to be sure I'll install on a VM
[13:24] <jussi> !hostname | OpenSourceCode
[13:24] <noren> cant run alsamixer, but i already got alsa-utils whats the prob here ???
[13:25] <juro> KE1HA, nah, too much work - I'll just apt-get install it
[13:25] <juro> thank you
[13:25] <KE1HA> juro, just doo: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser epiphany-extensions
[13:26] <KE1HA> That should get you rolling.
[13:26] <OpenSourceCode> Why is not suggested to be root?
[13:26] <ikonia> OpenSourceCode: because that is the ubuntu security model
[13:26] <BluesKaj> noren, install alsa-base too
[13:26] <abhijit> !root | OpenSourceCode
[13:26] <juro> KE1HA, yeah busy downloading the packages
[13:26] <KE1HA> OpenSourceCode, change your hosname file
[13:26] <abhijit> :(
[13:27] <noren> BluesKaj: i have the alsa-base latest version already installed
[13:27] <OpenSourceCode> where can I find hostname
[13:27] <KE1HA> juro, You'll like it, it's fast and light weight. Load real quick.
[13:27] <ikonia> /etc/hostname
[13:27] <Legendary_Bibo> OpenSourceCode:It's possible to root your Ubuntu, but it's hard and really just opens up your system
[13:27] <ZykoticK9> OpenSourceCode, KE1HA changing ONLY hostname file will break sudo!  be SURE to change both files!!!
[13:27] <abhijit> OpenSourceCode, in /etc/hostname
[13:28] <epinky> !rootpassword | OpenSourceCode
[13:28] <KE1HA> OpenSourceCode, SRI, that wasnt ment for you, my last commetn that is, was for another channel comment.
[13:28] <KE1HA> OpenSourceCode, However, changing Ubuntu to a root based system causes all sorts f unexpected issues.
[13:29] <BluesKaj> noren, are you running alsamixer from the cli ?
[13:29] <glickity> anyone have any luck getting smooth .mts playback?
[13:29] <noren> BluesKaj: yes frm cli
[13:29] <Legendary_Bibo> glickity: Have you tried it with VLC?
[13:30] <glickity> yes Legendary_Bibo
[13:30] <noren> BluesKaj: it says >> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[13:30] <Legendary_Bibo> glickity: Does it skip no matter what size?
[13:30] <Legendary_Bibo> glickity: Do you have hardware drivers installed?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> noren, lspci | grep -i audio
[13:31] <KE1HA> juro, once installed, go to Tools >> Extensions it pops up a list for you.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> what is the response , noren ?
[13:33] <noren> BluesKaj: no output
[13:33] <reggi> hello
[13:33] <Buhloo> hello
[13:33] <BluesKaj> noren, try aplay -L
[13:33] <Buhloo> hows it going reggi
[13:34] <noren> BluesKaj: i am not getting sound if i kill pulseaudio,
[13:34] <reggi> question: in microsoft windows it is not possible to transfer an installed application by copying the folder in the \program files\
[13:34] <reggi> so
[13:34] <juro> KE1HA, thank you
[13:34] <reggi> is that the case in linux too?
[13:34] <noren> BluesKaj: **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[13:34] <noren> card 1: default [PnP Audio Device        ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:35] <BluesKaj> aha a USB soundcard , noren ?
[13:36] <thomas9999> hey!
[13:36] <thomas9999> ive got some strang problem in here
[13:36] <noren> BluesKaj: no, i dont have a seperate soundcard me using the motherboard (inbuilt) card only
[13:36] <abhijit> ask!
[13:36] <reggi> ask!
[13:36] <thomas9999> Some folder suddenly disappeared from my external disk
[13:37] <KE1HA> !ask
[13:37] <marianne_> i think i've found out how to do it... maybe... thanks though Legendary_Bibo :)
[13:37] <marianne_> byebyes
[13:37] <KE1HA> :-)
[13:37]  * abhijit was aware that he means ask! and not !ask
[13:37] <thomas9999> How can this happen?
[13:38] <KE1HA> abhijit, just a bit a humor to lighten the day :-0
[13:38] <BluesKaj> noren, ok , do cat /proc/asound/devices
[13:38] <abhijit> KE1HA, :)
[13:38] <thomas9999> thanks for the support and help :)
[13:39] <Flynsarmy> After installing wine1.2 from the ubuntu repository i went to terminal and did a wine --version and it reports wine-1.1.42....why? that's not 1.2?
[13:39] <Guest3153> can i dwell with ubuntu??
[13:40] <Guest3153> can i dual boot windows n ubuntu??
[13:40] <KE1HA> Flynsarmy, good question, mine's 1.1.42 from the reops w/updates .. need to look at that one fer a bit.
[13:40] <andi5> hi... i just uninstalled mlocate, because i do not use it and it the loud disk while indexing is annoying me daily... my question: why is mlocate recommended by ubuntu-standard, does anyone actually use "locate"?
[13:40] <Daekdroom> Guest3153, of course
[13:40] <epinky> Guest3153: yes, you can
[13:40] <thomas9999> How is it possible that folders can suddenly disappear from a external drive? (file system is NTFS). The data is still there because the free space hasn't changed
[13:40] <abhijit> !dualboot | Guest3153
[13:40] <Guest3153> epinky: how
[13:40] <SidGBF> Is there a netbook version specialist? I have a EeePC 701 with 10.04 Netbook version, but I need some help cause sometimes I can't properly see the screen sometimes...
[13:41] <reggi> question: in microsoft windows it is not possible to transfer an installed application by copying the folder in the "\program files\" to another computer, instead, you must reinstall the application. Is this true for linux / ubuntu?
[13:41] <epinky> Guest3153: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[13:42] <abhijit> reggi, no
[13:42] <KE1HA> Flynsarmy, looks like 1.2 is the package version, but the compile package is 1.1.42 so when ya --version it pulls the compile --version number.
[13:42] <Guest3153> epinky:  thanks but I am afraid it will crash the machine
[13:42] <Guest3153> I will loose warranty
[13:42] <reggi> abhijit, would you be able to point me to a wiki or website so I can learn more about moving apps to another computer?
[13:42] <reggi> thanks
[13:43] <Flynsarmy> KE1HA: does that mean we're on the latest one from the wine devs or the ubuntu repos got it wrong and we're on an old version as a result?
[13:43] <abhijit> Guest3153, you will not loose warranty. you have freedom to install your choice os in your pc. you owns that pc and not microsoft.
[13:43] <KE1HA> reggi, http://eggsonbread.com/2010/01/28/move-ubuntu-to-another-computer-in-3-simple-steps/
[13:43] <epinky> Guest3153: also you can try Linux in a Virtual Machine (Vmware,Vbox,etc)
[13:43] <abhijit> reggi, i dont have exact that info. but i have another one which is useful for you just wait
[13:43] <KE1HA> Flynsarmy, yes, I belive so.
[13:43] <reggi> thanks KE1HA
[13:43] <reggi> ok i'll wait for your info abhijit
[13:44] <abhijit> Guest3153, regarding warranty you can make sure from their call center
[13:44] <Guest3153> epinky:ya i kw bt still i m afraid if my machine will crash
[13:44] <thomas9999> How is it possible that folders can suddenly disappear from a external drive? (file system is NTFS). The data is still there because the free space hasn't changed
[13:44] <Flynsarmy> KE1HA: thanks
[13:44] <noren> BluesKaj: see this >> http://pastebin.com/X0XqRmL9
[13:44] <andi5> reggi: i would recommend installing the app on the target system, the distros make it quite easy... or do you really want to install all the same apps on both systems?
[13:45] <Guest3153> epinky:ya i want to
[13:45] <KE1HA> Ok Folks, Time to Go Trout Fish'en .. Have a good Day :-)
[13:45] <Flynsarmy> Anyone here using the nvidia proprietry drivers and noticed you can zoom with compiz Enhanced Zoom Desktop on your primary but not secondary monitor? There a solution for that?
[13:45] <thomas9999> bye:)
[13:45] <epinky> Guest3153: crashing host machine with a Virtual Machine? absolutely no, been doing that for some years :) , no issue ever
[13:46] <Stifte> hey, can anyone help me patch warcraft 3?
[13:46] <abhijit> reggi, now this is solution for full os copy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 now you need to apply the same logic to copy individual program. though i never tried it and i dont know further.
[13:46] <KE1HA> reggi, Just FYO, like andi5 said, it's best for fresh installs, unless your making clones for "exact" replication.
[13:46] <thomas9999> Does anybody see my question?
[13:47] <abhijit> !patience | thomas9999
[13:47] <noren> BluesKaj: u there
[13:47] <fan> musze powiedzieć że rozwiązanie problemu z gdm było dość lamerskie na co kilka osób z tego miejsca nie wpadło . Należało wyczyścić katalogi po gdm ..purge
[13:47] <Ramseize> hello everyone, i would just like to ask if its ok to run ubuntu netbook in acer aspire one, would it be the same with the desktop? can you give me some ideas...
[13:47] <reggi> andi5 well I was actually specifically referring to an application that I compiled from source, transferring that to another machine.
[13:48] <BluesKaj> noren, ok , did you try , cat /proc/asound/devices
[13:49] <KE1HA> reggi, create the binary's then use then create a .deb package, ubless of course you need the source files on both systems.
[13:49] <KE1HA> oop, then use them to create .. ..
[13:49] <Ramseize> would i be getting the same feeling as running ubuntu desktop with ubuntu netbook in my acer aspire one AO51h, please enlighten me
[13:49] <noren> see this http://pastebin.com/25qfZ0Rg
[13:50] <abhijit> reggi, you got me?
[13:50] <reggi> abhijit, yes that is helpful info :) thanks
[13:50] <abhijit> reggi, ok
[13:50] <KE1HA> Ramseize, http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/ubuntu_netbook_remix_detailed_explanation
[13:50] <KE1HA> Now I really going fish'en :-) See ya.
[13:50] <Ramseize> thanx KE1HA, ill check it out
[13:51] <reggi> seeya KE1HA
[13:51] <reggi> thanks for your help
[13:52] <BluesKaj> noren, lspci | grep -i audio , not egrep
[13:53] <noren> BluesKaj: fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* >> /dev/snd/controlC1:  noren     F.... pulseaudio and /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p:   noren     F...m pulseaudio
[13:54] <noren> BluesKaj: stil n o output with lspci | grep -i audio
[13:55] <darknemesis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1520979 << i am having the same issue as this person
[13:57] <BluesKaj> noren, you need an audio driver for the onboard sound , what kind of pc make and model ? We need to know so we can find the proper driver for the soundcard.
[13:58] <elhobab> #linuxac
[13:59] <elhobab> Hi, some could help me , i want to configure my hp remot control with lirc but i don't know how to do
[13:59] <abhijit> !hardware | elhobab
[13:59] <Ramseize> which is better for acer aspire one ao751h netbook, the ubuntu desktop version or the ubuntu netbook version?
[14:00] <noren> BluesKaj: lspci -v >> http://pastebin.com/vTTvmRsx  ?? But i am able to hear sound if i install pulse audio ??
[14:00] <abhijit> Ramseize, from its name it looks like it is a netbook (and not a notebook) so go for ubuntu netbook remix
[14:00] <BluesKaj> ok noren then install pulseaudio , if you wish.
[14:01] <elhobab> abhijit, /???
[14:01] <noren> no but i want the alsa to work, it was working great before the update
[14:02] <Ramseize> abhijit ic, im kinsa confused which one to install, im currently running vista but i want to shift to ubuntu, but dont know what to choose, the netbook version or the normal desktop version... but is it possible to install the normal desktop version for my acer aspire one netbook?
[14:02] <ZykoticK9> Ramseize, i'd recommend Desktop over Netbook versions anyday!  Netbook has become very "locked down", i see why... but...
[14:03] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[14:03] <aeon-ltd> afternoon
[14:04] <aeon-ltd> wildc4rd: you in gmt?
[14:04] <abhijit> Ramseize, that i dunno. i never tried it
[14:04] <noren> BluesKaj: please help to troubleshoot alsa !!
[14:04] <abhijit> !unr | Ramseize
[14:04] <Ramseize> thanx guys...
[14:04] <dli> is there a GUI tool to resize pictures? gimp can do it, but is there a liter one?
[14:05] <abhijit> elhobab, i dunno how to do it. just see if your hardware is supported or not first.
[14:05] <abhijit> dli, f-spot?
[14:05] <ZykoticK9> Anyone into factoid updating - !unr should be renamed/updated to !une
[14:05] <elhobab> ok, but someone know about lirc
[14:05] <dli> abhijit, f-spot is based on mono-? right? I don't want mono-
[14:05] <weebles>  my ubuntu is trying to install "libpcsclite1 - middleware to access a smartcard" :|
[14:05] <abhijit> ZykoticK9, its shortform for ubuntu netbook remix
[14:05] <BluesKaj> noren, I don't see a soundcard in the paste list ..what make and model pc  are you using?
[14:06] <ZykoticK9> abhijit, "remix" was renamed "edition" in 10.04
[14:06] <abhijit> dli, dunoo on what it is based. it it is free  and good.
[14:06] <abhijit> ZykoticK9, ohhh
[14:06] <mikeconcepts> where can we chat about ubuntu netbook?
[14:06] <weebles> hello.. why is this? -->  my ubuntu is trying to install "libpcsclite1 - middleware to access a smartcard" :|
[14:06] <wildc4rd> well, an hour ahead of GMT aeon-ltd (UK, British summer time)
[14:06] <abhijit> mikeconcepts, here only
[14:07] <Ramseize> so basically, the ubuntu netbook is just a altered version of the ubuntu desktop version, but could i run applications or install applications same as ubuntu desktop versions...
[14:07] <Kyuusai-San> hiyu, can someone help please, ive been trying to get japanese characters to display in files and folders and in amarokvand ive tried loads of ways and its just not happening
[14:07] <aeon-ltd> Ramseize: its exactly the same just with a new gui layer and some apps taken out
[14:07] <abhijit> Ramseize, right.
[14:07] <aeon-ltd> Kyuusai-San: do you have a font that supports those characters?
[14:07] <dli> abhijit, mono- is free at least according to DFSG, but M$ is still a problem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29#Mono_and_Microsoft.E2.80.99s_patents
[14:07] <ZykoticK9> Ramseize, UNE is just a different interface - the underlying stuff is the same between Netbook/Desktop -- i'd recommend desktop...
[14:08] <Kyuusai-San> aeon-ltd i have every single japanese font i can get hold of from synaptic
[14:08] <Kyuusai-San> plus extras
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, need some help here, do you see a soundcard listed here , because I don't , http://pastebin.com/vTTvmRsx
[14:08] <noren> BluesKaj: Asus SLI motherboard sound card is on board
[14:08] <llutz> Ramseize: with u-desktop you just have some dialogs not fitting on the screen, so you'll have to move windows around. but it works fine (here on aao 531
[14:08] <mikeconcepts> I installed the a3 netbook, was surprised it boots so slowly, about 1.5 minutes on a Toshiba N450
[14:08] <Kyuusai-San> aeon-ltd basically my last attempt was this last night, please ignore the japanese and just look at the terminal stuff
[14:08] <Kyuusai-San> http://d.hatena.ne.jp/tgg/20080426/1209188877
[14:09] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, i see no sound/audio card no - good luck guys.
[14:09] <abhijit> dli, http://f-spot.org/Main_Page
[14:09] <mikeconcepts> what kind of boot times are others getting for a3 netbook?
[14:09] <Kyuusai-San> the error message you see there was what i was getting in a terminal after editing the sources in gedit
[14:10] <weebles> why is network-manager dependent on smart card reading middlware? :|
[14:10] <Ramseize> ZykoticK9 your recommending me the desktop version, right? how is it gonna address my screen resolution? what if ill be running it on vmware...
[14:10] <aeon-ltd> Kyuusai-San: first go to admistration-->language support and get japanese language support
[14:10] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, thought so...thanks for checking
[14:10] <Kyuusai-San> done that
[14:10] <Kyuusai-San> i can put in japanese characters
[14:10] <Kyuusai-San> lol
[14:11] <ZykoticK9> Kyuusai-San, if it's the missing key that your having issues with see http://paste.ubuntu.com/474946/
[14:11] <lungan> If i start youtube (firefox) before spotify I have no sound in Spotify, but if I start Spotyify before youtube I have sound in Spotify but not on youtube?
[14:11] <Kyuusai-San> thanks ZykoticK9
[14:11] <ZykoticK9> Ramseize, vmware?  how does that apply?  if you have vmware you might want to just try both and see which you prefer.
[14:11] <Kyuusai-San> it could be that
[14:12] <weebles> if you don't want smartcard reading software on your computer you have to uninstall network-manager
[14:12] <Kyuusai-San> but im not entirely sure that its going to solve my problem
[14:12] <Kyuusai-San> lol
[14:12] <Ramseize> ZykoticK9 i guess, okies, thanx .. ill just try both and see which one works fine with me...
[14:13] <Kyuusai-San> cause i have lots of stuff with japanese characters and when i try to look at them in like documents for instance i get jibberish same with amarok
[14:13] <Kyuusai-San> i just want them to display correctly
[14:13] <Kyuusai-San> lol
[14:13] <weebles> hello.. why is this? -->  my ubuntu is trying to install "libpcsclite1 - middleware to access a smartcard" :|
[14:13] <llutz> weebles: aptitude why ibpcsclite1
[14:13] <llutz> weebles: aptitude why libpcsclite1
[14:14] <ZykoticK9> Kyuusai-San, when i search google for 058A05E90C4ECFEC i see several references to japanese characters in the results - perhaps this repo has the fonts you are looking for?  good luck man.
[14:14] <abhijit> !ibus
[14:15] <llutz> weebles: its not network-manager,  "apt-cache rdepends libpcsclite1"
[14:15] <Kyuusai-San> lol thanks ZykoticK9 that key you see there was something of what i was looking for i just couldnt get it to work
[14:15] <Kyuusai-San> i dont know if thats even going to be the solution to the problem
[14:15] <Kyuusai-San> lmao
[14:16] <llutz> weebles: wpasupplicant depends on it
[14:16] <vivek243> how to switch to indian channel??
[14:16] <BluesKaj> noren, pls run lspci and paste the output.
[14:16] <elitexray>  "/join #indian"
[14:16] <jgeli> hi everyone
[14:17] <jgeli> i would like to ask does anyone here have the 10 second boot time?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> !ask
[14:17] <Nebulosa> jgeli: 12..
[14:17] <BluesKaj> 15
[14:17] <eagles0513875> Nebulosa: how
[14:17] <abhijit> !in | vivek243
[14:17] <abhijit> elitexray, its not indian its #ubuntu-in
[14:18] <eagles0513875> how do you guys have those kinda boot times
[14:18] <jgeli> Nebulosa: how?
[14:18] <ZykoticK9> jgeli, 10 second boot isn't there for 99% of systems no (10 seconds is a goal for development on a non-super computer, hasn't happened yet)
[14:18] <elitexray> Oh, I took it by literal
[14:18]  * abhijit have urge to calculate his boot time. :)
[14:18] <vivek243> #ubuntu-in
[14:18] <Nebulosa> 4 cores, less programs..
[14:18] <abhijit> vivek243, type  /j #ubuntu-in
[14:18] <vivek243> !in
[14:19] <jgeli> zykotic, thanks! I have 30 seonds on the boot time. already have profiling on. What would you recommend?
[14:19] <elitexray> I thought ubottu was a bot.
[14:19] <abhijit> elitexray, ubottu is a bot.
[14:19] <eagles0513875> Nebulosa: my desktop is quad with 8gb of ram
[14:19] <abhijit> elitexray, see here:
[14:19] <abhijit> ubottu thanks
[14:19] <ZykoticK9> jgeli, i don't have any recommendations actually - i'm around 30 seconds as well.
[14:19] <Nebulosa> eagles0513875: see how many programs u load with boot..
[14:20] <Nebulosa> install bootchart
[14:20] <mikeconcepts> abhijit: have you got a3 netbook installed?
[14:20] <saby> hi
[14:20] <BluesKaj> 30 secs good , especially if you have boot delay for dual booting
[14:20] <saby> i am having a weird problem
[14:20] <abhijit> mikeconcepts, who? me? and what makes you thing that?
[14:20] <jgeli> eagles, edit you might try editing grub and removing the splash screen and activating profiling
[14:21] <abhijit> !ask | saby
[14:21] <saby> i can use the wifi only after restarting my system
[14:21] <jgeli> saby, what wifi card are you using?
[14:21] <mikeconcepts> abhijit: only because you answered me before relative to where the proper place to chat about a3 netbook
[14:22] <abhijit> mikeconcepts, no. i ddnt. may be he was 'abhijeet'
[14:22] <saby> broadcom 4353
[14:22] <jgeli> ok
[14:22] <saby> jgeli, i installed the broadcom drivers too from their site
[14:22] <jgeli> i too have a braodcom. they are a pain coz no free software comes with them
[14:22] <saby> oh
[14:23] <abhijit> can we have a factoid something like !samenick or !lookalikenick ? it will really save my lot of time? :( :'(
[14:23] <jgeli> but you can ins tall with the b43 fwcutter
[14:23] <saby> jgeli, the problem is that when i start the system after a full shutdown, the wireless card wont enable unless i restart it
[14:23] <jgeli> did you install via hardware drivers on ubuntu?
[14:23] <oCean_> abhijit: we have more than enough factoids :(
[14:23] <DarkSector> abhijit, thats an IRC thing, I think ubottu just holds ubuntu related stuff
[14:24] <saby> jgeli, i had done that but i removed those and installed then manually from their site
[14:24] <jgeli> thats your problem
[14:24] <abhijit> oCean_, DarkSector hmm
[14:24] <Kyuusai-San> ZykoticK9 i tried the code on your pastebin and got an error
[14:24] <saby> jgeli, i did the manual thing cos i was having the same problem
[14:24] <vivek243> abhijit u also have doubts and difficults??
[14:25] <jgeli> i would recommends using the hardware drivers
[14:25] <oCean_> abhijit: you seem to be factoid fan, I prefer personal response
[14:25] <saby> jgeli, i was using those but they were giving the same problem
[14:25] <abhijit> vivek243, yes. what do you think? I am not any expert. We are student in whole our life. we keep learning a lot from all. from each thing in nature.
[14:25] <ZykoticK9> Kyuusai-San, sorry i had 2 almost identical pastebins - did i send you http://paste.ubuntu.com/474946/
[14:25] <jgeli> saby, oh i see. whats the exact model of your wifi card?
[14:25] <sidharth> any good ide for python?
[14:25] <saby> so i installed them manually from the site and it was working fine until aptitude update and after that again the same problem
[14:25] <abhijit> oCean_, yah. i need to type so many lines explaining that 'he is not me' :(
[14:25] <saby> jgeli, could you tell me how to find out
[14:25] <Kyuusai-San> ZykoticK9 yeah you did
[14:26] <Kyuusai-San> lo
[14:26] <Kyuusai-San> ll
[14:26] <saby> sysinfo app is showing me broadcom 4353
[14:26] <ZykoticK9> Kyuusai-San, what error did you get?
[14:26] <kuttan_> hi all
[14:26] <jgeli> uninstall the driver first thru synaptic
[14:26] <AlphaWaves> im banned
[14:26] <oCean_> AlphaWaves: discuss in #ubuntu-ops
[14:26] <sidharth> any python ide?
[14:26] <jgeli> then go to system > hardware drivers
[14:26] <AlphaWaves> oCean_: i did it
[14:26] <oCean_> AlphaWaves: So? You're ban dodging now?
[14:26] <abhijit> sidharth, which ubuntu version you are using?
[14:26] <AlphaWaves> oCean_: they check the counseil already
[14:26] <sidharth> 10.04
[14:27] <saby> jgeli, only the bcmwl-modaliases is installed
[14:27] <oCean_> AlphaWaves: you know ban dodging makes it worse?
[14:27] <AlphaWaves> oCean_: ubuntu-fr
[14:27] <abhijit> sidharth, in application>software center under there there is search utility you can searc for available softwares. try typing python
[14:27] <Kyuusai-San> ZykoticK9 i wont paste it here cause itll be a spam
[14:27] <saby> jgeli, remove that and install b43-fwcutter ?
[14:27] <trizicus> I have weird problem that is hard to explain. When I leave my computer idle and come back to do something it freezes temporarily makes a click then becomes responsive again. It does this regularly. This doesn't happen in windows, and only in Linux. Anyone have any suggestions?
[14:27] <jgeli> saby, try unsinstalling the broadcom STA wireless driver and leave the b43 wireless driver
[14:28] <ZykoticK9> Kyuusai-San, sorry you need to use "sudo apt-key add -" on the 2nd line
[14:28] <ZykoticK9> !pastebin > Kyuusai-San
[14:28] <jgeli> the STA driver can give you problem especially on connections with WPA2
[14:28] <oCean_> AlphaWaves: do you have an actual question for this channel?
[14:28] <sidharth> well I dont want to try on installing different ides. Could u suggest a good one you may have experienced using?
[14:28] <AlphaWaves> oCean_: they dont want to change their position
[14:28] <oCean_> AlphaWaves: this is not the place to discuss
[14:28] <AlphaWaves> oCean_: for instance i have no question
[14:29] <abhijit> sidharth, if no one answers here then try in #python
[14:29] <kuttan_> AlphaWaves: what did you do
[14:29] <sacarlson> trizicus: I'm guessing this might be the screen saver kicking in and out.  you can disable it or change the time.
[14:29] <oCean_> kuttan_: AlphaWaves drop it, this is not the place
[14:30] <AlphaWaves> kuttan_: i talk about Jesus
[14:30] <sidharth> Well how to log into #python from xchat?
[14:30] <trizicus> sacarlson: Nope, it does this every 5 seconds that I don't do something; it's not a screensaver, standby, etc.
[14:30] <abhijit> sidharth, type /j #python
[14:30] <sidharth> thanx
[14:31] <sacarlson> trizicus: your right it's not screen saver
[14:31] <kuttan_> AlphaWaves:  This is certainly not a place for that
[14:31] <trizicus> sacarlson: My system pauses for a second, makes POST sound, then click and it's responsive again. I want to say it's kernel power settings but I have no clue how to adjust anything like that.
[14:32] <magicianlord> it's your cpu trizicus
[14:32] <trizicus> magicianlord: I have it running at full; what do you suggest?
[14:33] <magicianlord> trizicus: when i switched out my cpu from a lower power cpu to a quad core, the pause to the beep increased and i see no post screen now
[14:33] <MrWGW> I'm having some trouble getting amanda-client to work
[14:33] <vivek243> abhijit i thought so...
[14:33] <MrWGW> do any of you have it running on your systems?
[14:33] <jjmartin> it boots to flashing under score
[14:34] <trizicus> magicianlord: I'm using a quad atm and power mode isn't ondemand. So idk what to do to fix this.
[14:34] <MrWGW> when I do an amcheck daily on the server (which is a box running a different OS) I get a WARNING: fragola.sfarm1.com: selfcheck request failed: amanda/udp unknown protocol
[14:34] <MrWGW> err blah
[14:34] <MrWGW> I meant to excise the domain name
[14:34] <MrWGW> ah well
[14:34] <FloodBot2> MrWGW: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <magicianlord> trizicus: this is just something i noticed on my system. dont know why exactly it happens, because i didnt research it. i have cool and quiet on
[14:35] <vassia> hello ?
[14:35] <abhijit> !hi | vassia
[14:35] <vassia> Est-ce que ça marche ?
[14:35] <ZykoticK9> !fr | vassia
[14:35] <vassia> Does it work?
[14:36] <vassia> Hi guys
[14:37] <trizicus> magicianlord: Do you have any suggestions on what to look for; I cannot find anything in regards to this.
[14:37] <Yura87> 0hai
[14:38] <Yura87> Is there a way to set PPPoE LAN without bobbing with mac address?
[14:40] <sacarlson>  trizicus: I guess you can try the command top to see what is running that could be using the resources to cause something like this but magicanlord may be correct.  also maybe look in the /var/log dir to see if cron is running something every 5 secounds
[14:40] <trizicus> sacarlson: I have cron disabled atm :)
[14:40] <sacarlson>  trizicus: was it always disabled?
[14:41] <trizicus> trizicus: yes
[14:41] <sacarlson>  trizicus: what about top
[14:42] <Yura87> In Puppy, you do not bob with mac address, you just click Network Setup > Eth0 > Static IP, type 192.168.1.4 as your IP, and 192.168.1.1 as both gateway and DNS1
[14:42] <trizicus> sacarlson: Just xorg and compiz
[14:42] <droundloopy> I been trying to find a updated site on how to surf anonymously any urls?
[14:42] <trizicus> sacarlson: Well obviously more but xorg and compiz are the most active.
[14:42] <jjmartin> I installed ubuntu 10.04, ran some updates and now it boots to a blinking underscore. I cannot ctrl alt F1 -F8 to change terminals. how do i fix this
[14:42] <droundloopy> I am a newbie looking for a howto
[14:42] <sacarlson>  trizicus: I think I might try disable compiz it's power hungry
[14:43] <abhijit> !manual | droundloopy
[14:43] <magicianlord> jjmartin: it's the broadcom driver. do you ahve that hardware component?
[14:43] <jjmartin> h/o
[14:43] <jjmartin> yes
[14:43] <trizicus> sacarlson: This was happening before I started uses compiz
[14:43] <droundloopy> thanks abhijit
[14:43] <magicianlord> you have broadcom?
[14:43] <jjmartin> LAN not WLAN
[14:43] <magicianlord> ok
[14:43] <abhijit> droundloopy, welcome!
[14:44] <jjmartin> lspci http://slexy.org/view/s20DnTejbu
[14:44] <jjmartin> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01)
[14:44] <magicianlord> i read about a fix to this. you're gonna have to hold shift and edit the grub boot line before the system boots to blacklist b43 and ssb (i dont remember the exact syntax atm) and then once in the desktop, blacklist both modules in /etc/modules/blacklist.conf
[14:45] <jjmartin> what?
[14:45] <baBY_MiLO> helo
[14:45] <sacarlson>  trizicus: in top what does total cpu usage look like mine is running at about 7% with a 2ghz dual core
[14:45] <baBY_MiLO> im milo from selangor
[14:45] <jjmartin> black list driver modules?
[14:45] <oCean_> baBY_MiLO: this is ubuntu technical support. How can this channel help you?
[14:45] <magicianlord> yeah
[14:45] <abhijit> !welcome | baBY_MiLO
[14:45] <oCean_> :(
[14:45] <trizicus> sacarlson: 8%
[14:45] <droundloopy> abhijit no howto with surfing anonymously
[14:45] <abhijit> oCean_, :P
[14:46] <abhijit> !tor | droundloopy
[14:46] <baBY_MiLO> i see...
[14:46] <sacarlson>  trizicus: sounds good.  I'm clueless
[14:46] <kuttan_> is ubottu a bot
[14:46] <abhijit> !bot | kuttan_
[14:46] <baBY_MiLO> i thought diz canel for chat....
[14:46] <magicianlord> jjmartin: the system comes by default with b43 and ssb modules which are for broadcom, open source, but do not allow the system to boot. the actual modules that works is broadcom's close source, wl.ko
[14:46] <abhijit> !ot > baBY_MiLO
[14:46] <baBY_MiLO> so without que i cant stay in diz canel?
[14:46] <abhijit> baBY_MiLO, you can stay in channel.
[14:47] <oCean_> baBY_MiLO: you're welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[14:47] <saby> whats the command to mount a drive
[14:47] <baBY_MiLO> ok....
[14:47] <Yura87> so, how come Puppy sets up PPPoE LAN (Eth#) without bobbing with mac address?
[14:47] <baBY_MiLO> tq guys...
[14:47] <ZykoticK9> saby, lol "mount"
[14:47] <abhijit> !mount | saby
[14:47] <saby> mount /dev/sda2 /mnt??
[14:47] <jjmartin> magicianlord, is there a file that lists all the drivers that are loaded or a way to check to see what drivers and modules are used?
[14:47] <baBY_MiLO> actually where u are come from...
[14:47] <ZykoticK9> saby, with sudo that should work
[14:47] <oCean_> baBY_MiLO: please stop
[14:47] <trizicus> sacarlson: I think it might be dynamic ticks
[14:47] <abhijit> baBY_MiLO, please type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:47] <glick> has anyone here used kdenlive?
[14:47] <saby> ok
[14:47] <abhijit> glick, yes. I like it.
[14:47] <baBY_MiLO> sorry
[14:47] <baBY_MiLO> :(
[14:48] <sacarlson>  jjmartin:  the command is modprobe -l
[14:48] <glick> abhijit, whats the best format to convert .mts files to preserve quality, what do all those numbers mean and whats the diff between 1 pass and 2 pass?
[14:48] <kuttan_>  
[14:48] <zakwilson> Sometimes when I suspend (not hibernate) my laptop, it spends forever and a day with the hard drive grinding during resume before it becomes usable. Most of the time, resume only takes a few seconds. Is there a known issue? Something I might be able to tweak?
[14:48] <jjmartin> sacarlson, but does that just list what is running like lsmod?
[14:48] <abhijit> glick, ha ha :D i never tried .mts.
[14:49] <abhijit> glick, ask in #kdenlive
[14:49] <kuttan_>  
[14:49] <abhijit>  
[14:49] <Yura87> never ssp/hyb, always shutdown
[14:49] <ZykoticK9> glick, re: 2 pass - it basically pretends to encode the first pass, then really encodes on the 2nd.  you get better quality, more accurate size, with 2pass encoding (generally)
[14:50] <glick>  i see
[14:50] <glick> thanks ZykoticK9
[14:50] <vincenzo> yy
[14:50] <ZykoticK9> glick, it takes longer obviously
[14:50] <Yura87> ssp/hyb are unsafe on modern archs and are zombie functions
[14:50] <magicianlord> jjmartin: did you find your solutino
[14:51] <daniel_b_> hi! just switched from kde to gnome and installed ubuntu on  my new x201 lenovo. Multitouchpad and umts dont seem to work (alongside having to set i925.modeset to 0) , How can i switch on Multitouch?
[14:51] <jjmartin> not yet. I'm looking up info on the chipset
[14:51] <sacarlson>  jjmartin:  I guess it just shows what modules are installed
[14:51] <saby> hi, when i start windows, my  bootloader is getting corrupted and i then have to reinstall grub from the live cd
[14:51] <Nikyo> Greetings, I am making a headless Ubuntu box, using vino VNC so I can remote to this ubuntu headless workstation. Issue is that I cannot get vino, (or any VNC server that I install), past 1024x768 screen resolution when viewing the headless ubuntu box remotely.
[14:52] <SauLus> hmm, i cant boot my ubuntu box. some shell is showing up. now ibooted the ubuntucd, ran fsck and did not find any error. any ideas?
[14:52] <jjmartin> does the d in conf.d stand for deamon?
[14:52] <SauLus> jjmartin: directory
[14:52] <ZykoticK9> jjmartin, i believe so
[14:52] <llutz> jjmartin: directory
[14:52] <sacarlson> saby:  windows must hate us.  maybe run your windows in virtualbox so that won't hapen and you can run windows at the same time as linux
[14:52]  * ZykoticK9 fail ;)
[14:52] <Yura87> SauLus, is your install full or frg?
[14:53] <SauLus> frg? my installation is some weeks old and the sys was running fine.
[14:53] <Yura87> with frugal, just get rid of all your session-files
[14:53] <BluesKaj> saby,fyi , always install windows first , then linux
[14:54] <Yura87> and ensure that linux is in frugal setup on one of the secondary drives (not C:)
[14:55] <SauLus> Yura87: what is frugal? was it the answer to me? i did not insztall ubuntu in ntfs, if that is frugal
[14:55] <ZykoticK9> SauLus, if you're not familiar with "frugal" don't feel alone - i've never heard of it...
[14:55] <BluesKaj> me neither
[14:56] <Yura87> frugal install is when you have it in .sfs's that are mounted into a "no-emulation" img
[14:56] <Israfel> Well, I did it again. 3 times in a row I corrupt my Ubuntu installation by removing evolution.
[14:56] <SauLus> fine, but do you have any ideas what i could try to find the problem why my ubuntu 10.04lts64 is not starting any longer?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> Israfel, why remove it , just don't use it
[14:57] <licensed> anybody knows how can i do to change my password when using encrypted /home
[14:57] <Israfel> Because I'm running on a 4GB USB stic
[14:57] <Israfel> BluesKaj: And I was running out of space.
[14:57] <Yura87> SauLus, if your install is frugal, try to delete .2fs or .3fs or w/e session files
[14:57] <mahioo> hello guy
[14:58] <Yura87> as you are on ntfs, your install obviously contains of .sfs's
[14:58] <mahioo> it's possible to get  the source code of software from binary file
[14:58] <SauLus> Yura87: i just booted the standard ubuntu64bit cd. i assume i am not using frugar
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Israfel, you could try a smaller footprint ubuntu
[14:59] <Yura87> SauLus, LiveCD IS frugal
[14:59] <Israfel> BluesKaj: I'll be fine if I can take out the stuff manually.
[14:59] <mahioo> is it possible !!
[14:59] <SauLus> Yura87: m installation is not booting. so why should i delete temporary files during the live-session?
[14:59] <Israfel> BluesKaj: I'm working on removing the games, OO, Evolution, etc. And trying Minimal wasn't working well.
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Israfel, does it try to take out the gnome desktop?
[15:00] <SauLus> my
[15:00] <Yura87> mahloo, it's not possible in most cases to grab src off bin
[15:00] <Israfel> BluesKaj: I was told that it shouldn't if I use apt-get remove openoffice*
[15:00] <sacarlson> mahioo: you can disasemble bin code but it's not the source.
[15:00] <Yura87> Delete sessionfiles of your usual install
[15:00] <saby> BluesKaj, i have done that
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Israfel, ok , understood
[15:00] <mahioo> sacarlson: how !!!
[15:01] <sphiryx> hi, Im currently trying to install the ubuntu server x86 iso via usb. the installation stick has been built using unetbootin. however, when booting from the stick the installation tool is searching for a cdrom which is not present.
[15:01] <Yura87> they are usually .2fs or something - refer to ubuntu wiki or UnionFS wiki
[15:01] <sacarlson> mahioo:  for one thing disasembled will be the procesor machine code
[15:01] <Israfel> BluesKaj: I wasn't having any luck with minimal. Plus I want a few nice features that Ubuntu has.
[15:01] <Israfel> Does anyone have a good way to remove Evolution without kililng GNOME?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Israfel, why are you running on a stick   ...HDD full ?
[15:02] <Baphomet> Hi all... Is there any way to get Evolution to display different IMAP accounts in one single inbox? Failing that, is there a way to get it to automatically download all messages to the inbox without messing up other message filters?
[15:02] <Israfel> BluesKaj: because I like to have an OS in my pocket. And a CD is too big for that.
[15:03] <mahioo> sacarlson: ok thank you
[15:03] <sphiryx> I tried mounting /dev/sdb1 to /cdrom but then i recieve a debootstrap error
[15:03] <Yura87> SauLus, did you delete your 2fs?
[15:03] <sacarlson> mahioo: if your really interest look at the program biew
[15:03] <Israfel> BluesKaj: And I'm not going to start deleting partitions and pushing for space on the HDD.
[15:04] <Yura87> Haha, you ubuntu people use frugal install without knowing what it is!
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ok, neat idea Israfel , I should show ubuntu to some of my friends that way
[15:04] <SimonSayez> Yura87, because its easier
[15:05] <Yura87> and, why does Puppy's eth# setup go easier than that in Ubuntu?
[15:05] <chrismeo> hi, I want do delete my usb storage. So created a file on the device and filled it with urandom. I did this 2 times. Is this a good thing to do?
[15:05] <Israfel> BluesKaj: And it's persistent if you install it. Most people just use the Live version for USB/CD but that doesn't save settings.
[15:05] <sphiryx> anyone who could help me out? I dunno why this stupid setup tool is searching for a cd rom nor how to make it look at the same device it has been started from
[15:06] <chrismeo> i used dd
[15:06] <mahioo> sacarlson: ok thanks
[15:06] <SauLus> Yura87: i think you misread my problem. so i reinstalled grub and retried booting . . . still waiting for the system, but it stays black after grub
[15:06] <Israfel> Anyone know of a good ghosting software that can run from a USB? I'm on a netbook and don't want  to have to rip the HDD out to back it up.
[15:07] <jgeli> is deborphan effective or does it remove valid files?
[15:07] <robertpayne> lol tasksel install lampserver isn't adding root mysql user
[15:07] <Yura87> grub is a fuq
[15:07] <BluesKaj> !ghost
[15:07] <SimonSayez> Yura87, yup we know
[15:07] <BluesKaj> oops
[15:07] <oCean_> robertpayne: yes it is, it even asks you to set a pw
[15:07] <EdwardIII> i'm on ubuntu, how come gnome can audo detect screen res/horiz/vert settings correctly, but the login screen seems to be massively off centre? it's a bit of a bugger 'cos other window managers have the same problem
[15:08] <Israfel> BluesKaj: Not the right kind of ghost.
[15:08] <tuliohm> Hi people, i want to know if the openoffice.org package is the openoffice or go-oo...
[15:08] <BluesKaj> hehe
[15:08] <robertpayne> oCean_: eh I've tried to "reset" it using mysqld --skip-grant-tables and it shows 0 rows affected
[15:08] <mahioo> sacarlson: can you give me the home page of project
[15:08] <Yura87> SimonSayez, so what is the reason for Puppy's eth# setup being easier than in Ubuntu?
[15:08] <nopulp> wkejfkjefjkhwsf\
[15:08] <jgeli> is deborphan effective or does it remove valid files?
[15:08] <SimonSayez> Yura87, I have no idea
[15:09] <sphiryx> :-(
[15:09] <llutz> Yura87: write a feature request to the ubuntu-devs if you like puppys way (however they realize it)
[15:09] <SauLus> EdwardIII: gdm is using /etc/X.11/x.org, whereas gnome may use some detection, your  graphicsdriver and xrndc
[15:09] <Q_Continuum> Empathy on 10.04 won't let Yahoo connect - I get an 'Authentication failed' message.  Confirmed the password is being typed in correctly, and other accounts with other services work.
[15:09] <ScottG> What's a good program for recording audio and video off a webcam?
[15:09] <oCean_> robertpayne: I don't know what you did to 'reset' it, but as I said, taksel asks for a root pw during install.
[15:09] <Yura87> I'll ask on #puppy how the program is named
[15:09] <oCean_> *tasksel
[15:09] <EdwardIII> thanks SauLus - how might i go about fixing the issue for non-gnome wms and the gdm login?
[15:10] <llutz> Yura87: this is ubuntu-support, wrong channel for that
[15:10] <SauLus> EdwardIII: fix x11 in its config
[15:10] <EthanZ6174> how can i pass the resule to chmod ?
[15:10] <EdwardIII> SauLus, could you point me in the right direction?
[15:10] <oCean_> robertpayne: also you could check the user entries if there really is no root user, I actually never seen a mysql install w/out one
[15:10] <sphiryx> hi, Im currently trying to install the ubuntu server x86 iso via usb. the installation stick has been built using unetbootin. however, when booting from the stick the installation tool is searching for a cdrom which is not present.
[15:10] <SauLus> EdwardIII: maybe there are tools today that help you writing this config
[15:10] <ksou_> can anyone point me to a good music creation app
[15:10] <robertpayne> oCean_: yes I know.. I'm able to get into mysql w/o authentication but using UPDATE mysql.user SET Password = PASSWORD('newpassword') WHERE User = 'root' results in 0 rows updated
[15:10] <EthanZ6174> I mean: somecommand | chmod 644  doesn't work..
[15:10] <joeka> ScottG: GUI or command line?
[15:11] <kk_lucid> hello, can some one tell me what prevents me from browsing internet using ie 7 on wine?  due to some reason I have to use it and the installation is successful
[15:11] <Yura87> well, I just want network setup in Ubuntu to be easier.
[15:11] <SauLus> EdwardIII: fix the x&y resolution, the framerate and the options in your VideoDevice
[15:11] <jgeli> i am using Mac4Lin and selected the Mac4lin cursor. cursor wont change if im not on a window. but changes to default if im on the desktop..help
[15:11] <ScottG> joeka: Either or both. Whatever you have give me :P
[15:11] <EthanZ6174> any command line pro here?
[15:11] <llutz> Yura87: this is ubuntu-support, wrong channel for that, go asking u-devs
[15:12] <ScottG> EthanZ6174: Question?
[15:12] <EthanZ6174> [some command | chmod 644] doesn't work...
[15:12] <EthanZ6174> ScottG, What should I do about that chmod?
[15:12] <ScottG> Why are you piping through chmod?
[15:12] <llutz> EthanZ6174: what do you want to chmod?
[15:12] <joeka> ScottG: ffmpeg can do that. with GUI cheese or WebcamStudio(has affects etc.)
[15:12] <EthanZ6174> ScottG, I wanna chmod the file only, no directory
[15:12] <joeka> effects
[15:12] <joeka> :)
[15:13] <sacarlson> EthanZ6174:  do you just want to do all the recursive files under a dir?
[15:13] <SauLus> ok, i think my harddrive has aome serious errors. after 450seconds the kernel writes probles with ata1 , status drdy err and error unc. what can this be?
[15:13] <EthanZ6174> sacarlson, nope, in the sub dir, there are dirs ..
[15:13] <robertpayne> oCean_: haha I confirmed it.. I just did SELECT * FROM mysql.user and it has no root entry
[15:13] <sphiryx> or will I have to use some kind of different image which doesnt depend on cd rom?
[15:13] <EthanZ6174> sacarlson, I know chmod -R, but that is NOT what i want..
[15:14] <EthanZ6174>  ls -l | grep -v '^d' | awk '{printf "%s\n", $8}' | chmod 644  I wrote this,, everything works perfectly, except chmod
[15:14] <TiK> how do I fix my sound without rebooting?
[15:14] <llutz> EthanZ6174: use xargs
[15:15] <EthanZ6174> llutz, ok I see~
[15:15] <sacarlson> EthanZ6174: I'm too lazy you need to look at #bash
[15:15] <oCean_> robertpayne: I've done many lamp installs (using tasksel), never seen that. Something must've gone bad.
[15:15] <TiK> IE restar the pulseaudio server
[15:15] <TiK> is it in init.d
[15:15] <TiK> ?
[15:15] <robertpayne> oCean_: .. yea it seems to happen if I paste the password in
[15:15] <Israfel> Damn,I have to jump though hoops just to ghost a HDD.
[15:15] <SauLus> EthanZ6174: 'find yourdirectory -type f -exec chmod 755 {}\;'
[15:15] <EthanZ6174> sacarlson, llutz is right, xargs works~
[15:15] <oCean_> robertpayne: ah! Weird..
[15:16] <EthanZ6174> SauLus, nope, i wannt chmod the FILES,
[15:16] <[L]> Can PES 2010 run in ubuntu using wine
[15:16] <EthanZ6174> i've solved the problem, thanks llutz  XD
[15:16] <robertpayne> oCean_: still retarded.. I've pasted it in before and it works.. I should also note however I'm running it from a shell script and lots of other things happen before/after the tasksel gui
[15:16] <SauLus> EthanZ6174: that does '-type f' does
[15:16] <llutz> SauLus: you don't want general 755 on files
[15:16] <EdwardIII> SauLus, how can i figure out what resolution i should select?
[15:16] <EthanZ6174> SauLus, Ohhhh I see. a better way I think~
[15:16] <SauLus> llutz: right. but i dont know what EthanZ6174 did want to achieve
[15:17] <oCean_> robertpayne: I still would think the *user* would be there..
[15:17] <robertpayne> oCean_: it shows debian-sys-maint as the user with the password I put into tasksel
[15:17] <llutz> EthanZ6174: find is much better than your way
[15:17] <SauLus> EdwardIII: depends on your hardware /
[15:17] <[L]> .
[15:17] <[L]> Ok
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Israfel, G4L is a ghosting app
[15:18] <EthanZ6174> SauLus, llutz : here is the fact, i unzip some file in a zip archive, but the premission of the dirs are 700 , all files are 644
[15:18] <Israfel> BluesKaj: Will it boot from USB?
[15:18] <bastid_raZor> !appdb | [L] :look here:
[15:18] <EthanZ6174> SauLus, llutz : i put chmod -R 755 by mistake at very beginning, and i wanna correct that...
[15:19] <SauLus> my system is trying to boot up for 10 minutes now, the hdd seems to be damaged. what shall i do to find out that its not a hw problem (but depends on the partitions or such stuff)?
[15:19] <sphiryx> is there really no one who can just pass me some workaround?
[15:19] <sphiryx> Saulus try booting from a linux cd and run some HDD sector and smart diagnostic tools and memtest
[15:20] <[L]> Ok
[15:20] <SauLus> EthanZ6174: -type d fixes directories only
[15:20] <hiwi> hi
[15:20] <EthanZ6174> SauLus, ok~ thx
[15:20] <SauLus> sphiryx: mem is ok. please name some diagnoatic tools for partition and sectors
[15:21] <XunZi_> any one knows a digital pen that works well on Ubuntu for writing chinese?
[15:21] <xiong> I'm using various command line tools that create files. Sometimes the new files don't show up in the Nautilus window, although they show up fine with ls -l. Reload in the Nautilus window doesn't change anything. What should I do?
[15:21] <SauLus> xiong: try alt+h
[15:21] <ksou_> XunZi, like a touch screen or an external pad
[15:21]  * xiong tries
[15:21] <P_Kable> Hi there, before I had I way to manage what program to launch when plugging my camera, this disappeared, who knows why ? And where can I get it back please ?
[15:22] <Israfel> Well, guess I'll risk installing without a HDd backup.
[15:22] <xiong> SauLus, That gives me the Help menu.
[15:22] <Israfel> Seems nobody has though to make a bootable ghosting tool.
[15:22] <SauLus> xio
[15:22] <JanCBorchardt> hello :) I am trying to compile a package (git://github.com/herzi/pongo.git) but it won’t work because it says I haven’t got gstreamer installed: configure: error: Package requirements (
[15:22] <JanCBorchardt>                   gstreamer-0.10
[15:22] <JanCBorchardt>                   ) were not met:
[15:22] <SauLus> xiong: another combo then: show hidden files!
[15:22] <JanCBorchardt> No package 'gstreamer-0.10' found
[15:22] <xiong> SauLus, Did you mean Ctrl-H? I'm not creating .files; they're regular files.
[15:22] <JanCBorchardt> But afaik I have it, searched through synaptic to no avail – any ideas?
[15:22] <FloodBot2> JanCBorchardt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:22] <vassia_> Hi guys
[15:23] <JanCBorchardt> oh, sorry for flooding
[15:23] <SauLus> xiong: i do
[15:23] <kuttan_> is jummanji browser available for jaunty
[15:23] <hiwi> i have a problem with my dualscreen setup (nvidia proprietary drivers, current version) and flash (10.1.53.64ubuntu0.10.04.3). When I enter fullscreen mode eg. in youtube the video gets displayed fullscreen on my second monitor. How do I get the video to be displayed fullscreen on my first monitor?
[15:23] <Roasted> On my laptop (Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit) in ClamTK I can go to help - update - update definitions. On my desktop (Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit) in ClamTK, I don't have that option. Uh. Why??
[15:23] <frikinz> Hi! I have lighttpd installed on 9.10 but it does not start. There is a S05lighttpd in /etc/rc2.d. What's wrong?
[15:23] <hiwi> frikinz: probably the config
[15:23] <xiong> SauLus, Oddly enough, that *did* work -- show hidden and they appear; hide hidden and they're still there.
[15:24] <llutz> Israfel: look at gparted live-cd
[15:24] <xiong> SauLus++ # the right call, first time
[15:24] <frikinz> hiwi: /etc/init.d/lighttpd start starts it so it's not the config
[15:24] <frikinz> hiwi: it's not started automatically
[15:24]  * kuttan_ greetz revlo
[15:24] <SauLus> hrhr
[15:24] <llutz> !upstart> frikinz
[15:24] <anubis> anyone got experiance installing ubuntu from usb pen-drive, got time for a few questions?
[15:25]  * kuttan_ greetz revlo
[15:25] <JanCBorchardt> anubis: yes, what about it?
[15:25] <xangua> Roasted: you don't have that option or it's greyed ¿
[15:25] <xangua> !anyone | anubis
[15:26] <anubis> once i get into the installation it starts to load install components.. tells me it cant find some of the files from the cd-rom (although i am installing from usb)
[15:26] <Roasted> xangua, it just doesn't exist. On the laptop I have hceck for updates for gui + check for sig updates. On desktop the only thing listed is check for updates for gui... but I want the signature update option...
[15:26] <anubis> haha, true ubottu :p
[15:26] <hiwi> frikinz: ah ok i see, what about the permissions of S05lighttpd?
[15:26] <sacarlson> frikinz: must have some dependency at boot that hasn't started until later in boot?  bug?
[15:26] <Israfel> Anubis, I'm always installing from USB. I have a netboot with no CD-ROM drive
[15:26] <Vamp898> hi im running the Ubuntu LiveCD  and tried to mount a partition. Now it just freezed while mounting and i cant kill the mount process... what can i do?
[15:26] <anubis> yeah, i built a media server and got no cd drive as well :p
[15:26] <Kyuusai-San> ZykoticK9 thanks for your help
[15:26] <frikinz> # Required-Start:    $remote_fs $network
[15:27] <JanCBorchardt> anubis: how did you get it onto the drive? usb startup disk creator, unetbootin, …?
[15:27] <Israfel> Anubis, What are you needing help with?
[15:27] <sphiryx> try
[15:27] <sphiryx> Saulus trz MHDD
[15:27] <frikinz> hiwi: same as others and also for the linked /etc/init.d/ligghtpd
[15:28] <sacarlson> Vamp898:  just push the reset buton it shouldn't hurt anything
[15:28] <anubis> i used universal usb installer to make the usb-stick bootable.. but setup can't load files from the drive
[15:28] <sphiryx> anubis same problem as i have
[15:28] <JanCBorchardt> anubis: it’s likely that there was just an error in copying, so you best try again. and md5-check the image before it
[15:28] <sphiryx> anubis is zour setup also searching for a cdrom?
[15:28] <Israfel> Anubis, have you tried using 'unebootin'? it takes a linus .iso file and makes a bootable USB.
[15:28] <anubis> yeah, it keeps refering to cd-rom :P
[15:28] <sphiryx> Israfel unetbootin doesnt solve this...
[15:28] <Israfel> Anubis, Unetbootin
[15:29] <sphiryx> Israfel I have used unetbootin at setup is still searching for a cd rom when trzing to install the base system
[15:29] <anubis> it's as if it keeps looking for a cd to copy files from, when all is on the usb stick
[15:29] <hiwi> frikinz: does invoking the start script manually from init.d/lighthttpd... work?
[15:30] <anubis> JanCBorchardt: tried making the stick a few times over now, next on list i d/l 32bit versino, figured i'd try that now
[15:30] <sphiryx> Israfel also tried copying the iso image onto the stick and mount it to /cdrom but this results in a debootstrap error
[15:30] <Israfel> anubis, so the live portion boots up and when going through the setup it's asking for files?
[15:30] <JanCBorchardt> anubis, sphiryx: (I guess you have, but) do you have it formatted as fat32 and md5-checked the image after download?
[15:30] <anubis> Israfel: yea
[15:31] <JanCBorchardt> I mostly had problems with that
[15:31] <Green13> hi
[15:31] <Monkey_Dust> !hi| Green13
[15:31] <sphiryx> JanCBorchardt stick is fat32 yes. also checked the image and downloaded it from different mirrors. tried ubunto mirror and rwth aachen halifax.
[15:31] <anubis> Israfel: it boots, gets me into the install etc, but halts and asks for cd-rom/fiels
[15:31] <anubis> files*
[15:31] <Israfel> anubis, Did you check to make sure the MD5 sum for the ISO is correct? I had that issue the first time I downloaded the iso.. The part where it asks for the CD-Rom is misleading because the USB only thinks it's a CD-Rom
[15:31] <Green13> I have some trouble getting ejabberd started on 10.04 server
[15:32] <JanCBorchardt> anubis, sphiryx: are you installing from live version or directly? (10.04?)
[15:32] <Green13> can anyone help me with ejabberd?
[15:32] <anubis> JanCBorchardt: define live/directly? :)
[15:32] <sphiryx> Im installing directly from usb using the ubuntu x86 server image. also tried the alternate install image. same resul
[15:32] <anubis> ah, yeah.. directly from usb then :p
[15:32] <frikinz> hiwi: yes it does
[15:33] <frikinz> hiwi: I have now added a echo "test" > /root/x to see if at least it is called on boot
[15:33] <anubis> Israfel: thanks.. first one i tried was 64bit, trying fresh download of 32bit now
[15:33] <JanCBorchardt> anubis: live = live desktop version where you can test drive ubuntu, directly is a direct install ;)
[15:33] <JanCBorchardt> anubis: but the question is irrelevant for server installations of course
[15:34] <Israfel> anubis, don't forget to check that MD5.
[15:34] <anubis> i c :) thanks^^
[15:34] <sphiryx> JanCBorchardt also tried another workaround by copying the iso onto the stick and mount it to /cdrom but this gives me a debootstrap error
[15:34] <JanCBorchardt> sphiryx: I never tried that ;)
[15:34] <anubis> might have been a .iso error, cause i'm trying the 32-bit version now, and it works fine so far.. got past "loading additional components"
[15:35] <frikinz> ahah. it _sometimes_ starts
[15:35] <JanCBorchardt> so, I have a problem while compiling a package, it says I haven’t got gstreamer-0.10 installed – synaptic was of no help. the output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/474972/ – any ideas?
[15:36] <anubis> good thing ubuntu-users are so helpful :) tried installing another distro a few years back, and all i got then was the fashion-term rtfm :P
[15:36] <JanCBorchardt> anubis: rtfm really needs to die ;)
[15:36] <anubis> haha, true ;)
[15:37] <Israfel> JanCBorchardt: Looks like that script is trying to download some things that depend on gtreamer-0.10 Can you manually install that one from somewhere else?
[15:37] <sphiryx> JanCBorchardt say that to the debian folks hehe
[15:37]  * cwillu stabs at Vamp898 
[15:37] <anubis> btw, anyone running a ion-based system here?
[15:37] <anubis> an*
[15:37] <SauLus> ty sphiryx, i'll do
[15:37] <JanCBorchardt> Israfel: gstreamer-0.10? I don’t know, that’s basically the question ;)
[15:38] <lungan> If i start youtube (firefox) before spotify I have no sound in Spotify, but if I start Spotyify before youtube I have sound in Spotify but not on youtube?
[15:38] <hiwi> frikinz: hm no idea sorry :(
[15:38] <Israfel> JanCBorchardt: Make sure the multiverse repository is selected. But I think that is regular universe, and go a search in synaptic.
[15:38] <frikinz> this time it did not start..
[15:38] <mikelifeguard> `which` shows the first matching entry in $PATH (ie what will be run) -- is there a way to find /all/ matching entries (ie to see what will happen if $PATH is changed or matches are added/removed)?
[15:38] <frikinz> hiwi: thanks anyway
[15:39] <xerox1> i just install "glipper"; if i want to add it to the panel, i can't find it in the menue; what to do?
[15:39] <llutz> mikelifeguard: whereis
[15:40] <sacarlson> JanCBorchardt:  maybe try install libgstreamermm-010-dev
[15:40] <xangua> xerox1: tried to launch the command¿
[15:40] <zsh> d
[15:40] <benariba> good morning
[15:40] <zsh> 好咯
[15:40] <JanCBorchardt> sacarlson: Israfel: ah, the most obvious thing did it for me: libgstreamer0.10-dev – did not see it before o.O
[15:41] <llutz> !cn > zsh
[15:41] <mikelifeguard>  ♥ llutz
[15:41] <xerox1> xangua, from the console? yes, but i should be able to add it by the menue...
[15:41] <Israfel> zsh, の本後？
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !cn | zsh
[15:41] <hiwi> anyone of you played around with the gnome lockscreen yet? I followed the instructions but there was no change except the dimensions of the "screen is locked, enter pw"-box
[15:41] <Israfel> 済みません。。日本語
[15:41] <hiwi> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/NSA++GNOME+Lock+Screen?content=89014
[15:41] <benariba> good bay
[15:42] <hiwi> if Israfel typed a little more it would like matrix :D
[15:42] <xerox1> is there a way of indexing the gnome-panel addons manually?
[15:42] <sphiryx> checked the md5 again
[15:42] <sphiryx> iso is ok
[15:42] <Israfel> Yeah, my Japanese is really rusty.
[15:43] <MaximumPower> Un SaLuto A Tutto  IL Canale Di  #ubuntu
[15:43] <benariba> salama 3likom
[15:43] <MaximumPower> hi
[15:43] <MaximumPower> Ciao
[15:43] <MaximumPower> hola
[15:43] <anubis> should os partition be primary or logical?
[15:43] <laomie> how to chat?
[15:43] <MaximumPower> halo
[15:43] <xangua> MaximumPower: do you have any ubuntu support question¿
[15:44] <Israfel> anubis, shouldn't matter as long as grub is on the master.
[15:44] <MaximumPower> ehm, no
[15:44] <licensed> anybody knows how can i do to change my password when using encrypted /home
[15:44] <sphiryx> so I guess this cdrom thingy is a bug?
[15:44] <Israfel> Anubis, if you're dualbooting that is.
[15:44] <hiwi> licensed: passwd ;)
[15:44] <benariba> bonjour y a t'il quel qu'un qui parle français svp
[15:44] <dgoeri2s> Hello, anyone know of an IRC Channel where I can ask about Human-Computer-Interaction especially Touchscreen Technology (sorry for offtopic, but I usually get help here, so I thought I would just ask :)  )?
[15:44] <licensed> hiwi, didn't work, my friend
[15:44] <xangua> !fr > benariba
[15:45] <anubis> Israfel: i will be dual booting :P just deleted my old partition and repartitioned 35/65..
[15:45] <hiwi> licensed: errormsg?
[15:45] <anubis> leaving 65% for windows/additional os's
[15:45] <auzsnet> arnollld
[15:45] <licensed> hiwi, i use encrypted /home who don't mount if i change my password
[15:45] <sphiryx> anubis did you solve that cdrom problem?
[15:46] <anubis> sphiryx: in a way, yes.. how are you doing mate?
[15:46] <licensed> hiwi, but thanks to trying to help
[15:46] <frikinz> how to remove upstart?
[15:46] <sphiryx> anubis still waiting for a solution here. double checked MD5... everything is ok
[15:46] <hiwi> licensed: your passphrase isnt used to encrypt your home.
[15:46] <riyaz> peer
[15:46] <JanCBorchardt> dgoeri2s: like, a related IRC channel? (I’m a HCI guy but don’t know any channels for that ;)
[15:47] <auzsnet> haloo
[15:47] <auzsnet> any body here
[15:47] <Israfel> Damnit, I make space on a partition, and the ubuntu installer says "unusable"
[15:47] <anubis> sphiryx: i c :( i never md5 checked my 64bit installation, so i cant say definatly that it was the problem, but my fresh download of the 32bit worked like a charm right away
[15:47] <hiwi> licensed: cryptfs will simply wrap your new passphrase around the symmetric key that is used to encrypt your ~
[15:47] <iceroot> anubis: /n
[15:47] <anubis> iceroot: what? :)
[15:47] <sphiryx> anubis which mirror did you use?
[15:48] <dgoeri2s> JanC, Well I have a few questions and didn't want to go off topic, can I pm you, maybe you can help :)
[15:48] <iceroot> anubis: ah, wrong nick, sorry
[15:48] <MaximumPower|Awa> Un SaLuto A Tutto  IL Canale Di  #ubuntu
[15:48] <riyaz> i have installed updates from net in one system is it possible to transfer it to other system with out net??
[15:48] <xangua> !aptoncd | riyaz
[15:48] <bastid_raZor> !aptoncd | riyaz
[15:48] <licensed> hiwi, i don't remember the error message.. wait a sec please.. i'll be back
[15:48] <anubis> sphiryx: i just downloaded directly from ubuntu.com ..did nto get any mirror-choices
[15:49] <SauLus> riyaz: /var/cache/apt//packages: copy it and do dpkg -i on each file on the target machine
[15:49] <dgoeri2s> JanCBorchardt, Well I have a few questions and didn't want to go off topic, can I pm you, maybe you can help :)
[15:49] <JanCBorchardt> dgoeri2s: sure, pm me
[15:49] <sphiryx> anubis eh ubuntu net install? the server iso never asks for any mirror??
[15:49] <dgoeri2s> JanC, Sorry that wasn't directed at you -.-
[15:50] <sphiryx> anubis is there some kind of netinstall version which doesnt rely on removable media like cdroms?
[15:50] <llutz> sphiryx: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-978888.html  the part with "cdrom-detect...:"
[15:51] <sacarlson> sphiryx: I've used pxeboot to install
[15:51] <anubis> sphiryx: no, it's a regular install-iso.. i just used "universal usb-installer" to prepare my usb-stick for the installation
[15:52] <lepra> hello everyone, is it really recommended to udate ubuntu? does it gives any dependency problems, it becomes slow?
[15:52] <anubis> sphiryx: all i did was follow these steps: http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download
[15:52] <riyaz> i downloaded all of them though synaptic pkg manager so where will my files??
[15:53] <SauLus> riyaz: i told you
[15:53] <sphiryx> llutz so it|s all about cdrom-detect/try-usb=true? ill try that...
[15:53] <riyaz> salus: can i do any group install?
[15:54] <llutz> sphiryx: i had that problem with alternate installer, maybe the server has the same issue. just a guess
[15:54] <SauLus> riyaz: what do you mean with group install?
[15:54] <Roasted> I was having some issues ever since I installed a new kernel about a month ago. Every single time I'd install something, I'd get crash messages and it mentioned the kernel. So I decided to boot to an older kernel, remove other kernels, and upgrade to the latest. Well in the installation process for new updates, it's been hanging for about 30 minutes now. What should I do?
[15:54] <frikinz> conclusion: upstart is not deterministic. my webserver sometimes starts, sometimes does not.. bad bad bad..
[15:55] <SauLus> roasted: how did you install/remove the kernels?
[15:55] <sphiryx> llutz I had this using the alternate installer AND the server x86 iso. anyway ill try it.. thx for passsing me that link... searched google for hours and didnt find that page
[15:55] <Roasted> SauLus, I went in synaptic and hit complete removal.
[15:55] <KikoWolf> Un SaLuto A Tutto  IL Canale Di  #ubuntu
[15:55] <Roasted> SauLus, for the latest kernel I had that I thought was causing issues, that is.
[15:55] <SauLus> frikinz: i doubt that!
[15:55] <MaximumPower> ciao
[15:55] <Roasted> SauLus, I did this from the earliest kernel 10.04 came with.
[15:55] <MaximumPower> hi
[15:55] <MaximumPower> hola
[15:55] <MaximumPower> halo
[15:55] <riyaz> saulus instead of installing each file separately, can i install it all at one stroke??
[15:55] <FloodBot2> MaximumPower: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <feifei>  hi
[15:55] <llutz> sphiryx: i cannot find the page, but there was another solution where you have to mount/ln the usb-stick manually before isntallation starts
[15:56] <dgoeri2s> anyone tried using Community Core Vision (used to be called tbeta) with 10.04 ?
[15:56] <frikinz> SauLus: I am now doing the test for 30mn. It now did not start while the previous time it did start. I only did #reboot inbetween.
[15:56] <frikinz> SauLus: And I see other people having same issue when googling
[15:56] <SauLus> riyaz: yes: go to the directory and type 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb'
[15:57] <MaximumPower> why i banned from #ubuntu-it?
[15:57] <anubis> which file system should i use on a media-server? (should be able to stream content to a windows lap-top)
[15:57] <frikinz> so I'll add it in rc.local
[15:58] <SauLus> frikinz: i dont say you lie or something but i expect trouble somewhere else on your machine. upstart HAS TO be deterministic!
[15:58] <dimitri_> how set nautilus to use preserve flag in default mode (copy , cut and paste)
[15:58] <riyaz> saulus:directory mean the directory in which i have installed in old mac na??
[15:58] <SauLus> frikinz: just observe the liogs, when the problem arises
[15:59] <licensed> hiwi, the message is kstartupconfig4 does not exists of fails. the error code is 3. check
[15:59] <SauLus> riyaz: i mean the directory where all your .dep files are in
[15:59] <anubis> which file system should i use on a media-server? (should be able to stream content to a windows lap-top) any idea?
[15:59] <Roasted> I was having some issues ever since I installed a new kernel about a month ago. Every single time I'd install something, I'd get crash messages and it mentioned the kernel. So I decided to boot to an older kernel, remove other kernels, and upgrade to the latest. Well in the installation process for new updates, it's been hanging for about 30 minutes now. What should I do?
[15:59] <licensed> so i change my password back and all works fine
[15:59] <riyaz> saulus:must i place the .dep files only in loc u specified ah??
[16:00] <SauLus> riyaz: would be good but is not necessary. go to the dir where you put the .deb files and call dpkg from there
[16:01] <Dynetrekk> nice bittorrent client for the terminal?
[16:01] <erUSUL> Dynetrekk: rtorrent
[16:01] <riyaz> saulus:i asked this because i am using windows too,so i may large files out of linux na,
[16:02] <licensed> Dynetrekk, yeah, rtorrent is cool
[16:02] <Dick> Why aren't processors faster these days?
[16:02] <Dynetrekk> licensed, erUSUL: thanks, I'll give it a go
[16:02] <Dynetrekk> it will work with nohup?
[16:03] <SauLus> dick: GHz is not everything. GHz is not the total speed
[16:03] <san_> Hey All!
[16:03] <SauLus> riyaz: i dont understand
[16:03] <san_> I am unable to login to gmail from ubuntu
[16:03] <san_> tried firefox opera and chrme but no luck
[16:03] <Slart> san_: works for me.. errors?
[16:03] <Dick> it seems like instead of making them faster, they just push more cores onto a chip
[16:03] <lepra> hello everyone, is it really recommended to udate ubuntu? does it gives any dependency problems, it becomes slow?
[16:04] <Roasted> were approaching 40 minutes on the wait time for this kernel to get installed. gahhhhhh what can I do
[16:04] <kuttan_> san_: can you tell the exact error
[16:04] <san_> where should I be loking for errors
[16:04] <Israfel> san_ have you tried loading the basic HTML version?
[16:04] <Slart> san_: well.. what happens when you try to login?
[16:04] <sacarlson> san_:  that's strange maybe you need java loaded?
[16:04] <UbuntuLily> Does anyone have familar working with foremost?
[16:04] <SauLus> Dick: you need to read lots of books to fully understand this
[16:05] <san_> I can get on to the login page , but on clicking submit it just hangs over there
[16:05] <licensed> when i change my user password, my encrypted /home don't mount. how can i do to fix this?
[16:06] <matthiaskrgr> hello, does someone here know a gui fan control programm?
[16:06] <Slart> lepra: updating is highly recommended.. updating between major versions of ubuntu, ie 9.10 -> 10.04, works and is supported.. although myself I do a fresh install after a while
[16:06] <riyaz> saulus:sorry,i misspelt qn is:i am using windows also , i allocated only 10Gb for ubuntu so may i put the .deb files in some windows drive,so that i mount the dive in ubuntu and can i install?is it possible to do like this??
[16:06] <TiK> how to I create shortcuts IE somethin like ln -s /java /var/www/java  ? would that work
[16:06] <Israfel> You'll need to change the password on the encryption for that directory
[16:06] <sacarlson> san_:  maybe it's on the google server side maybe it will work tomaro.
[16:06] <topyli_> Dick: yes, always keep your system up to date
[16:06] <Slart> san_: regular firefox? no plugins interfering ie noscript or such?
[16:06] <erUSUL> licensed: Try changin the password too in aplications>Accesories>keys and encry... in the first tab right click on login. change password
 : it did not work for the past one month
[16:06] <san_> No, even tried chrome and opera
[16:07] <Israfel> Chromium?
[16:07] <licensed> erUSUL, hello. you know the name of app? because i use kde
[16:07] <sacarlson> san_:  is java installed?
[16:07] <eof> Hello!
[16:08] <eof> I'm trying download Ubuntu
[16:08] <erUSUL> licensed: seahorse ? surelly kde has an equivalen? kwallet? ask in #kubuntu
[16:08] <san_> Java is not installed
[16:08] <riyaz> saulus:can't get me ah??
[16:08] <erUSUL> san_: gmail dos not need java
[16:08] <eof> But it haven't md5sum or sha256sum
[16:08] <SauLus> riyaz: I think so. But why not putting them on some usb drive/stick?
[16:08] <eof> why?
[16:08] <sacarlson> san_:  I think google has become very java dependent
[16:08] <Slart> sacarlson: java? or javascript?
[16:08] <lepra> Slart, thanks man
[16:08] <eof> someone knows why, please?
[16:09] <kuttan_> sacarlson: jscript , but not java
[16:09] <sacarlson> san_:  both?
[16:09] <matthiaskrgr> sorry, hit the wrong keys
[16:09] <riyaz> saulus:from usb itself it is possible to install all updates ah??
[16:09] <pil> hello everyone - I am reading the ubuntu pocket guide and I am in the section of command lines -  there is this grep command with -i option *** when I give the command like this grep -i "ubuntu pocket guide" - the cursor goes to the below row and stays there and nothing happens - even if I eliminate the "" marks for the thing I search for - nothing happens - why? anybody knows? :(
[16:09] <valsum> Hello, I was wondering how to make my Nokia X6 work with Ubuntu (as mass storage, it does, but not further). I've already tried wammu, xgnokii, gmobilemedia, gnome-phone-manager, without success (probably this model is not supported yet). Thanks.
[16:09] <matthiaskrgr> did someone answere my question about the gui fan program?
[16:09] <Israfel> eof, Are you asking what the MD5 should be?
[16:09] <grekkos> how dO I add options to my grub boot config in grub2? I want to disable the power save option because it's causing flicker but I forgot which file I have to edit
[16:09] <edbian> pil, PM me?
[16:09] <pil> edbian: ok
[16:10] <xangua> matthiaskrgr: a gui for fan¿¿ haven't heard of it
[16:10] <erUSUL> grekkos: /etc/default/grub
[16:10] <frikinz> pil it's waiting for input. grep -i "ubuntu pocket guide" *
[16:10] <erUSUL> !grub2 > grekkos
[16:10] <kuttan_>  grekkos: grub.conf
[16:10] <san_> How do i install jscript in ubuntu?
[16:10] <anubis> how big should swap be?
[16:10] <Slart> pil: if you dont give grep a file to search in it will search in standard input.. ie whatever you type at that next line
[16:10] <matthiaskrgr> hmmm
[16:10] <SauLus> riyaz: of course. Just mount the usb device and it is accessible
[16:10] <eof> Israfel, sha would better...
[16:10] <erUSUL> san_: javascript copmes with th browser
[16:10] <Slart> pil: that's why it's waiting for you to type something
[16:10] <eof> Israfel, I think...
[16:10] <bastid_raZor> anubis: for most computers now a days.. 2 GB is more than enough
[16:10] <Israfel> eof, I'm not sure what you're asking.
[16:10] <san_> then I have everything
[16:10] <LinuxGuy20091> Can I use the "alternate" CD to install the minimal base system on a machine without the need for an internet connection like the "minimal" CD requires?
[16:10] <iamandii> hi, all people :)
[16:10] <eof> Israfel, no check is given in site
[16:11] <Slart> anubis: if you're going to use hibernation you need at least as much as you've got memory.. otherwise hibernation won't work..
[16:11] <Israfel> Want me to find the site? I had it earlier... sec.
[16:11] <erUSUL> LinuxGuy20091: nope; alternate install the same software as the livecd
[16:11] <eof> Israfel, Ubuntu's site, in the download page, doesn't have a checksun
[16:11] <anubis> ty guys
[16:11] <eof> Israfel, checksum, I'm sorry
[16:11] <Slart> anubis: the old 2xRAM rule is getting very old indeed.. I would go with 1 or 2 GB... just to give you some extra wiggle-root
[16:11] <xxx_ooo_xxx> with dual monitors, anyone know how to get twinview/grandr to see the middle of my primary monitor as "center" not the center of the extended desktop
[16:11] <Slart> *room
[16:11] <eof> Israfel, this is insecure, no?
[16:11] <riyaz> saulus:oh then its so easy way for me,then can u say me an equivalent for photoshop in linux??
[16:11] <Israfel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:12] <LinuxGuy20091> How can I get a base minimal install without an internet connection then? I want to build up from that.
[16:12] <iamandii> equivalent for photoshop in linus is are gimp
[16:12] <sacarlson> san_ you might try install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:12] <froschi> arf. i got distorted icon and background in the launcher page of NBE with the psb video driver. any experiences?
[16:13] <eof> Israfel, is this, man. Thanks!
[16:13] <licensed> erUSUL, the similar app to seahorse on kde is kgpg =D i'm to trying to change my password =D
[16:13] <Roasted> kernel problems anybodyyyy
[16:13] <SauLus> riyaz: photoshop is exellent. There is nothing similar to photoshop. But there is Gimp, which tries to give you the same power. But it sadly is not photoshop.
[16:13] <Kaspi> hi
[16:13] <xangua> Roasted: i don't
[16:13] <Kaspi> any tips on an SSH access manager?
[16:13] <erUSUL> licensed: ok
[16:13] <Israfel> Roasted, What's the problem?
[16:14] <rezolute> SauLus: indeed.
[16:14] <SauLus> riyaz: you
[16:14] <riyaz> saulus:tell saulus what??
[16:15] <Roasted> First I installed a new kenrel like a month ago, then it backfired somehow. Every time I installed something, it errored out. So today I finally got sick of the problems and rebooted to the oldest kernel with 10.04 and removed the newer one. Then I went to update manager and tried to install the latest kernel. It froze for about 40 minutes. I rebooted and booted up to the older kernel again. Im in software center now trying to inst
[16:15] <Roasted> all a bogus program and its freezing at 50%
[16:15] <SauLus> riyaz: you could try to emulate windows on linux using wine. Using wine you can start windows programs in linux. But it is a bit slower and not everything is working.
[16:15] <Roasted> In short, I'm sick of these problems. How can I get this system running again?
[16:15] <riyaz> saulus:yes,ofcourse i tried it but speed is not satisfactory so i left it..
[16:15] <rezolute> why dont you format and reinstall?
[16:16] <Roasted> who, me?
[16:16] <rezolute> yes
[16:16] <Roasted> hey rezolute, happy to meet you. this is a LINUX chat. not windows.
[16:16] <kuttan_>  Roasted: Patience
[16:16] <Roasted> I have been. thanks.
[16:16] <SauLus> Roasted: have a look at the log files /var/log/syslog and /var/log/apt* and /var/log/aptitude*
[16:17] <rezolute> roasted: hey Roasted, nice to meet you, too bad you're too stupid to resolve your own problem and take your bitterness out on others.
[16:17] <riyaz> saulus: in apt folder ihave 2 file "pkgcache.bin" and "srcpkgcache.bin" what may they?
[16:17] <Roasted> rezolute, I suggest you tone it down before you get banned for your own sake. Thank you for understanding.
[16:17] <SauLus> Roasted: next thing - as you dont want to use windows - is using the console. Use 'sudo aptitude install pakagename' and see what aptitude reports.
[16:17] <rezolute> Roasted: blow me. you're the one with the demanding attitude.
[16:17] <Roasted> can someone ban him?
[16:17] <Roasted> please?
[16:18] <rezolute> look at how pathetic you are.
[16:18] <Slart> rezolute: language.. no matter who started what
[16:18] <SauLus> the clever guy shuts up first ...
[16:18] <Roasted> no, no language remarks. Just ban.
[16:18] <Slart> just leave it.. let the ops handle it
[16:18] <shiftingcontrol> i am using ubuntu 9.10 ,core2duo,my system monitor shows my cpu usage morethan 90% ,ram space of 800 mb is used,top resulted in 220 process
[16:18] <Roasted> SauLus - what within the syslog should I be scanning for?
[16:18] <xangua> !attitude  | Roasted rezolute
[16:18] <kuttan_> Roasted: swap space, total ram , cpu ?
[16:18] <shiftingcontrol> any idea what is happening
[16:18] <Roasted> xangua - it seems as if you put in the wrong name with that. Please reissue that previous comment with the other users name listed. Thank you!
[16:19] <Roasted> kuttan, pardon??
[16:19] <xangua> shiftingcontrol: and what's the procces using more ram¿¿
[16:19] <SauLus> Roasted: everything abnormal. At most "warn(ing)/err(or)/fail(iure)"
[16:19] <kuttan_> swap space, total ram , cpu of you machine
[16:19] <Roasted> kuttan - 4gb ram, quad core, 2gb swap I believe
[16:20] <Roasted> SauLus - I don't see anything that appears to be problematic. To the best that I can tell anyway.
[16:20] <anubis> what should mount point for a windows drive be? /windows?
[16:20] <Slart> anubis: it doesn't really matter. I would use something in /media or /mnt
[16:20] <SauLus> riyaz: is your /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory empty?
[16:20] <joakimk_> What's a practical way of placing an image (either EPS or PDF format) on the bottom-right part of every odd page in a PDF document? Is there some tool to do this, preferrably via some small script?
[16:20] <Slart> anubis: /media/windows or something should work nicely
[16:20] <anubis> thanks
[16:20] <SauLus> Roasted: you must be a fast reader if you have finished looking through /var/log/syslog in this small time
[16:21] <Roasted> SauLus - there's time stamps - I just looked for the time frame in which the problem occured.
[16:21] <san_> where can i find the grub config file in the latest ubuntu?
[16:21] <erUSUL> !grub2 | san_
[16:21] <SauLus> Roasted: which kernel did you install?
[16:21] <riyaz> saulus:no no it contains one folder named "partial"(empty folder) and all other files are .deb file which i installed..
[16:21] <Roasted> SauLus - none. I TRIED to install the latest one in update manager, but it froze for about 40-45 minutes so I just rebooted.
[16:21] <shiftingcontrol> xangua:EVINCE 264MB
[16:22] <Roasted> SauLus - Im on .22 kernel now. I uninstalled .23 which is where the problems started.
[16:22] <Slart> joakimk_: there are a lot of nice command line tools to do all kinds of weird things to pdf, ps or similar files.. have a look at pdftk for one
[16:22] <Slart> !info pdftk | joakimk_
[16:22] <shiftingcontrol> xangua:EVINCE 264MB,i ve opened 5 pdf file
[16:22] <SauLus> Roasted: open a shell. Type "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade -y". What does happen?
[16:22] <anubis> swap, logical or primary?
[16:22] <licensed> erUSUL, so i have to change my passphrase? i don't remember old passphrase =xx can i use ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ?
[16:23] <SauLus> anubis: swap: Put it in a logical!
[16:23] <erUSUL> licensed: really dunno; i do not have ecripted partitions...
[16:23] <anubis> ok :)
[16:23] <Roasted> SauLus - it errors out with a locked process - I think its cause software center is frozen @ 50% installing something. Let me xkill it.
[16:23] <Roasted> SauLus - nevermind. xkilling doesnt end it. I might have to reboot?
[16:23] <SauLus> yes, kill every other software-processing instance
[16:23] <licensed> erUSUL, fine man =D thanks i'll to try
[16:23] <SauLus> Roasted: which is the name of the process?
[16:23] <Roasted> SauLus - I xkilled it, but when I reopen software center it is still pending.
[16:24] <SauLus> Roasted: terminal: ps aux | grep -i soft
[16:24] <Roasted> SauLus - no idea, terminal readout just says its temporarily unavailable - is another process using it:?
[16:24] <Roasted> k, sec
[16:24] <Roasted> I got 5 entries back, 4 root, 1 jason (me)
[16:24] <IdleOne> ubottu: tell rezolute about the CoC
[16:24] <SauLus> Roasted: what are the names of the processes?
[16:25] <IdleOne> !CoC > rezolute
[16:25] <SauLus> !CoC > SauLus
[16:25] <riyaz> saulus:any thing wrong?
[16:25] <mechbangirc> I have two network cards installed on lenny. [eth0 => 192.168.1.10] and [eth1 => 192.168.1.9]. I want to have eth1 as my primary interface to internet. However in my routing table both interfaces have a gateway route entry set, what should I do? here is the result of ifconfig and route -n http://pastebin.ca/1913283
[16:25] <Roasted> besides numbers, the only thing I see is ksoftirqd/0, ksoftirqd/1, then /2, /3
[16:25] <Slart> mechbangirc: lenny? running debian?
[16:26] <SauLus> riyaz: what do you mean?
[16:26] <erUSUL> mechbangirc: go to #debian ?
[16:26] <Kaspi> any tips on an SSH access manager?
[16:26] <Roasted> SauLus - let me just reboot...
[16:26] <SauLus> Roasted: fine
[16:26] <erUSUL> Kaspi: access manager ?
[16:26] <riyaz> saulus:no no it contains one folder named "partial"(empty folder) and all other files are .deb file which i installed..
[16:26] <mechbangirc> Slart: i copy pasted this stuff in #debian no body replied to my question.
[16:26] <Jigal> I have some trouble with installing my monitor as second screen of laptop. where is the logfile of X stored so i can post it on pastebin?
[16:26] <mechbangirc> cosider lenny as jaunty :)
[16:27] <Slart> mechbangirc: that doesn't make it ok to ask in here.. I'm sure debian has forums and other support options
[16:27] <Kaspi> erUSUL: yeah, some GUI aplication which would virtualize remote terminal and would also provide some "profiles" for storing access information
[16:27] <quazer> #exit
[16:27] <Slart> mechbangirc: we don't even support mint or other derivates in here.. and they are much more similar to ubuntu compared to debian
[16:27] <SauLus> riyaz: and you copied those files, right?
[16:27] <techie123> help with nautilus
[16:27] <mechbangirc> ah let me rephrase my qustion
[16:27] <mechbangirc> I have two network cards installed. [eth0 => 192.168.1.10] and [eth1 => 192.168.1.9]. I want to have eth1 as my primary interface to internet. However in my routing table both interfaces have a gateway route entry set, what should I do? here is the result of ifconfig and route -n http://pastebin.ca/1913283
[16:28] <erUSUL> !info putty | Kaspi
[16:28] <riyaz> saulus:yes,did i need to copy the .bin files which r out side of archieve??
[16:28] <mechbangirc> oh come on i dont want to change my id debian guys not listening to me
[16:29] <mechbangirc> this is a general sort of issue not distribution specific
[16:29] <erUSUL> Kaspi: but plain ssh should be enough ... http://www.mokisystems.com/blog/ssh-host-aliases/
[16:29] <Roasted> SauLus - I had to run configure -a, but it seems as if its working now.
[16:29] <SauLus> riyaz: you only need the .deb files
[16:29] <erUSUL> mechbangirc: what is configuring this interfaces ?
[16:29] <SauLus> Roasted: open a shell. Type "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade -y". What does happen?
[16:29] <Roasted> SauLus - however, I cant help but to notice, where its at right now in the terminal is the same place within update manager it was at when it froze when I dropped down the details list.
[16:30] <Slart> mechbangirc: what happens if you set the metric for the secondary interface to something higher.. it won't use the primary one after that?
[16:30] <mechbangirc> erUSUL i put entries in interfaces file
[16:30] <techie123> !info aptitude | Prateeksri123
[16:30] <SauLus> Roasted: Dont understand
[16:30] <Traveler287> hi, I wanna try out Alpha 3, but VirtualBox keeps messing up. I installed the OS, had to reboot, and it got stuck during the reboot, I tried the "live experience" but that gets stuck too at some point.
[16:30] <erUSUL> mechbangirc: do not put a gateaway entry in eth1
[16:30] <Dynetrekk> when using rtorrent with nohup, I get this error, why? rtorrent: PollEPoll::modify(...) epoll_ctl(3, 1 -> 1, 0, [0x8e82138:1]) = 1: Operation not permitted
[16:30] <Roasted> SauLus - Im running that now. It failed, said to run configure -a, so I did. NOW that command is running, but its stuck @ preparing to replace mysql server etc etc etc, which is where it froze when I updated the kernel last time.
[16:30] <erUSUL> mechbangirc: problem solved
[16:30] <riyaz> saulus:oh ok now i am clear; now after installation, the .deb files are necessary ah?
[16:31] <SauLus> Dynetrekk: why using nohup. Dont u know "screen"?
[16:31] <Dynetrekk> SauLus: never used "screen"
[16:31] <Roasted> SauLus - yeah it's just sitting here...
[16:31] <Roasted> sigh
[16:31] <Kaspi> erUSUL: does putty know to store passwords?
[16:31] <techie123> root not able to connect to x-server in 9.10
[16:31] <techie123> root not able to connect to x-server in 9.10 ..anybody ???
[16:32] <Spyzer> hi all, i have a file with no "\n" and numbers in it separated by a blank. How do i sort all those numbers(using sort command??? but how ???)
[16:32] <Slart> mechbangirc: nevermind the metric value.. it seems you need some kind of routing daemon to make use of it..
[16:32] <SauLus> riyaz: you want to install THOSE .deb files on your other clients as well. Copy them to every computer and do 'dpkg -i *' where you copied these files.
[16:32] <Spyzer> its a file consisting of only numbers separated by blanks
[16:32] <xxx_ooo_xxx> with dual monitors, anyone know how to get twinview/grandr to see the middle of my primary monitor as "center" not the center of the extended desktop
[16:33] <andyn> Kaspi: IIRC it nowadays forces you to do it the proper way, i.e. with a private key
[16:33] <SauLus> Dynetrekk: you can put processes in screen and detach screen into the background. Running processes are kept running. You can spawn several shells in one screen session.
[16:33] <sacarlson> mechbangirc: I've done 2 ports like this before not sure I remember it all I can take it offline with you
[16:33] <Spyzer> kindly tell anyone
[16:33] <SauLus> Roasted: do you need mysql
[16:33] <SauLus> ?
[16:34] <riyaz> saulus:ok ok thats right..i am asking that those files are necessary only to install or they are needed to run the application too ah??
[16:34] <Roasted> SauLus - Well I tinker with wordpress from time to time, so mysql is sorta needed...
[16:34] <abc4> When using "su - user" and then xclock as user I get "Cant open display". With "sux - user" this works fine. What does sux more?
[16:34] <SauLus> Spyzer: you could do that using vim
[16:35] <SauLus> riyaz: these are the installation packages. You need them only for the installation and you can remove them later on,
[16:35] <SauLus> .
[16:35] <Dynetrekk> SauLus: I'll try using screen then. I just type screen, run rtorrent, exit screen?
[16:36] <SauLus> Roasted: do you need mysql now? Do you have anything useful in there? Then make a backup and remove mysql with "sudo aptitude purge yourMySqlServer"
[16:36] <riyaz> saulus:oh i understood,may i know one thing, r u a developer of linux??
[16:36] <SauLus> Dynetrekk: right
[16:36] <Dynetrekk> SauLus: how do I exit screen without exiting rtorrent?
[16:36] <SauLus> riyaz: Im a user
[16:36] <Roasted> I dont understand why mysql backfired in the first place, causing an issue like this.
[16:36] <Roasted> all I did was get my updates from update manager... djfklajsdflk;jasdl;kfjas;d
[16:36] <erUSUL> Kaspi: use ssh agent. you can use Aplications>Accesories>password and keys to generate ssh keys
[16:37] <riyaz> saulus:oh ok ok,is there any gtalk for ubuntu??
[16:37] <yudi1> razz
[16:37] <SauLus> Dynetrekk: If you did not modify .screenrc press control and a and d. Written as ^ad
[16:37] <Roasted> SauLus - yet again, this thing is locked - I cant even remove it via terminal. GAHHH
[16:37] <SauLus> riyaz: dunno
[16:38] <SauLus> Dynetrekk: to get your screen session back write 'screen -r'
[16:38] <riyaz> saulus:ok thank for ur help,bye..
[16:38] <Dynetrekk> SauLus: -r(esume) I suppose. thanks!
[16:38] <SauLus> yipp Dynetrekk. Your welcome
[16:39] <SauLus> your too, riyaz
[16:39] <Kaspi> erUSUL: I see.. and can I use the key ID with the command line SSH client instead of typing the password?
[16:40] <erUSUL> Kaspi: http://pthree.org/2007/02/10/ssh-key-authentication/
[16:40] <Roasted> SauLus - when removing mysql, its freezing at the exact same place.
[16:40] <Kaspi> erUSUL: eh? is that a corrupted page?
[16:41] <Peter-C|Laptop> how can i monitor core temps?
[16:41] <erUSUL> Kaspi: nope. is nice description on how to manage ssh in ubuntu
[16:41] <erUSUL> !sensors | Peter-C|Laptop
[16:41] <Peter-C|Laptop> thanks :)
[16:42] <Dynetrekk> is it possible to "detatch" a gui program started over ssh -X ? similar to "screen"?
[16:42] <Nefzen> I want to run Unreal Tournament on a LiveCD Linux, do it as simply as possibly, and run on as generic a computer as possible (hopefully with OpenGL support). Any ideas?
[16:42] <erUSUL> Dynetrekk: nope
[16:43] <SauLus> Roasted: try 'rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/ && sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all'
[16:43] <SauLus> Roasted: try 'sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/ && sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all'
[16:43] <dshbusiness> Hello all
[16:43] <lappy> I compiled a custom 2.6.35 linux kernel, but I need to make initrd.img, how can I do this? I see references to mkinitrd, but I can't find this in a package
[16:43] <SauLus> Roasted: STOP!
[16:43] <Roasted> what
[16:43] <Kaspi> erUSUL: http://i36.tinypic.com/ap7li1.png
[16:43] <Roasted> I didn't do anything
[16:43] <SauLus> Roasted: try 'sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb && sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all' Sorry. Thats it.
[16:43] <dshbusiness> lappy: show me your ls /dev/module
[16:43] <erUSUL> lappy: mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35whatevermore 2.6.35whatevermore
[16:44] <llutz> Roasted: "sudo apt-get clean"   does a clean "'sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb"
[16:44] <lappy> erUSUL: thanks
[16:44] <Kaspi> erUSUL: but thanks, I'll check it out
[16:44] <SauLus> fine llutz
[16:44] <Roasted> processes locked. again.
[16:44] <erUSUL> Kaspi: do not use opera ;P. looks ok in ff and chromium here
[16:45] <Kaspi> erUSUL: I prefer opera to FF..
[16:46] <erUSUL> Kaspi: well i would contact opera to tell them about this bug
[16:46] <dshbusiness> My computer's right hand pad is so hot. How to make it cool?
[16:46] <TomOwens> I'm having trouble with my Ubuntu install - all of the repositories have very out of date versions of software. What can I do to fix this? For example, I can only obtain version 3.0.6 of Mozilla Thunderbird - the current version is 3.1.2...
[16:46] <Kaspi> erUSUL: why do you think it's an opera's bug and not the website?
[16:46] <SauLus> TomOwens: do a dist-upgrade.
[16:47] <TomOwens> Is that through apt?
[16:47] <TomOwens> apt dist-upgrade?
[16:47] <SauLus> TomOwens: you probably have an old ubuntu version.
[16:47] <TomOwens> SauLus: Nope.
[16:47] <VulcanX> good day all :)
[16:47] <erUSUL> Kaspi: becouse i tried with two different widely used and standar compliant browsers and it looks ok.
[16:47] <edbian> TomOwens, What version is it?
[16:47] <TomOwens> Running the latest. Just downloaded and installed it two days ago.
[16:47] <Jigal> i am trying to get my external acer screen to run as a second screen on my laptop but by reboot i get the error Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode (failed to set tilting on frontbuffer )
[16:47] <Kaspi> erUSUL: is it your site?
[16:47] <TomOwens> 10.04 LTS
[16:47] <erUSUL> Kaspi: no
[16:47] <SauLus> TomOwens: no, its some other command ... TomOwens then you are running ubuntu 10.04?
[16:47] <edbian> TomOwens, Check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[16:48] <VulcanX> i got a quick question guys, what happens to my BT if I am upgrading it "apt-get upgrade" and then my machine resets?
[16:48] <Kaspi> erUSUL: then you don't know if it contains any anti-opera code :)
[16:48] <llutz> TomOwens: for thunderbird theres a ppa with at least -3.1.1 available
[16:48] <Roasted> SauLus - running that command now. says intializing cache.
[16:48] <dshbusiness> Please help me, my computer's right hand panel is very hot. How to make it cool. It's thinkpad r61. Thanks
[16:48] <SauLus> Roasted: you should make yourself a coffee and watch, I think
[16:48] <erUSUL> Kaspi: i doubt it but hey i'm not going to press this further. is up to you
[16:49] <Roasted> SauLus - is this often a fix for problems like this? Or were you just banking on the fact that if the archive cache was removed, it would stop the mysql stalling?
[16:49] <TomOwens> That's for FireFox. I want Thunderbird. But is out-of-date repositories going to be a recurring problem with Ubuntu?
[16:49] <TomOwens> I want to always be running the latest stable versions of all of my software.
[16:50] <TomOwens> And if that's not in the primary Ubuntu repositories, that's going to be a major problem.
[16:50] <erUSUL> TomOwens: then you should look at using a rolling distribution like arch
[16:50] <llutz> TomOwens: then you'll need a distribution with rolling releases and no fixed release cycles
[16:51] <TomOwens> I think I will, then. I went with Ubuntu since I know a lot of people who use it, but if I can't be running latest stables, then it's not for me. I guess I'll look at Arch. Are there any other distribitions I should be looking at that meet my needs?
[16:51] <llutz> TomOwens: debian sid
[16:51] <Roasted> SauLus - its done. should I do the dist upgrade command from earlier?
[16:51] <SauLus> Roasted: yes please
[16:51] <SauLus> Roasted: The important part was dpkg-reconfigure. Maybe it found some problems.
[16:52] <erUSUL> TomOwens: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release
[16:52] <edbian> TomOwens, Arch is great for bleeding edge software.  Be aware though "stable" and "new" are not the same.  I use Debian for that reason exactly.
[16:52] <Roasted> SauLus - froze again at the same place.
[16:52] <Roasted> I like how me installing updates via update manager results in these problems. :(
[16:53] <TomOwens> edbian: That's my problem. I want stable, up-to-date software. When someone releases a new stable version, I want it available to me quickly through my repositories.
[16:53] <edbian> TomOwens, You and I have different definitions of stable my friend.  I think what you're asking for though is arch.
[16:53] <llutz> TomOwens: or look at slackware
[16:53] <TomOwens> Stable is anything that's not a nightly/weekly build.
[16:53] <erUSUL> TomOwens: if it is for a handfull of major apps a good solution may be use ubuntu + ppa's
[16:53] <SauLus> Roasted: open another terminal and have an eye on the command 'tail -f /var/log/apt*/*' during the aptitude thing
[16:54] <sacarlson> Roasted:  i'm sure you tried to reinstall before remove.  I've had some success with that in similar cases
[16:54] <TomOwens> For example, Mozilla Thunderbird 3.1.2 is Stable. As would 3.1.3 be. But the nightly builds of Firefox and Thunderbird...not stable.
[16:54] <Roasted> sacarlson - reinstall before remove what? the kernel?
[16:54] <erUSUL> TomOwens: mozilla  wine openoffice and a few others may be all you really need
[16:54] <Roasted> SauLus - that command comes up with text in a different language, it appears.
[16:54] <edbian> TomOwens, For me stable means "it does not crash and has 0 or very few bugs"
[16:54] <sacarlson> Roasted: oh no didn't know it was that bad
[16:54] <Roasted> sacarlson - I have no idea anymore :P
[16:55] <edbian> TomOwens, I understand what you're asking for though.  Arch linux is your best bet.  In fact it might even have un-stable software by your definition.
[16:55] <Roasted> I got some updates, it backfired, then it caused system wide issues ( couldnt install anything) so I hopped on an old kernel, removed the newer problematic one, and then tried to bypass that all together and get the latest one that was pending in update manager.
[16:55] <Roasted> But somehow Ubuntu didn't like that.
[16:55] <kuttan_>   
[16:55] <TomOwens> See, Stable for me is "latest official release", with the assumption that such a release has been tested and has minimal bugs. But I'll be looking at Arch. Thanks for your help.
[16:55] <dshbusiness> Please Help. My hard drive temperature is too high. About 60C.
[16:56] <Roasted> SauLus - any other ideas? the tail command comes back in a different language and its still freezing at the same spot.
[16:57] <simion314> hi, how can i force a reinstallation of a package.meta package?
[16:57] <SauLus> Roasted: what do you mean with the tail command? The tail command prints out what happenes to your log files
[16:57] <simion314> package or metapackage i mean
[16:58] <SauLus> Roasted: open another terminal and have an eye on the command 'tail -f /var/log/apt*/* /var/log/syslog' during the aptitude thing
[16:58] <Roasted> SauLus - it comes up on terminal as symbols, like a wingdings font.
[16:58] <thune3> dshbusiness: sounds like you have an airflow problem. (assuming the temp is correct). How are you getting temp?
[16:58] <SauLus> Roasted: ok
[16:58] <SauLus> Roasted: pastebin ls -laoR /var/log/apt*
[16:59] <dshbusiness> thune3: I installed a sensors-utils. while hddtemp program tell me it is 60 degrees
[17:00] <Xase> overscan hdtv... best way to cure it usintel 4500mhd
[17:00] <Roasted> SauLus - http://pastebin.org/457612
[17:01] <dshbusiness> /dev/sda: WDC WD1600BEVS-08RST2: 60°C
[17:01] <looonger> is this new ubuntu font available? it's 8 August today?
[17:01] <sacarlson> dshbusiness: if you turn off your computer for say 2-3 hours and turn it back on what temp does it read?  if it still reads lick 50C I'm not sure I would beleave it.
[17:01] <thune3> dshbusiness: if you have smartmontools installed you could double check with sudo "smartctl -A /dev/sda | grep Temperature"
[17:02] <dshbusiness> thune3: Let me try
[17:02] <kenalex> hello
[17:02] <brontosaurusrex> looonger: this maybe http://design.canonical.com/2010/07/the-ubuntu-font/
[17:02] <Israfel> Is there a good 3d graphing calc for ubuntu? nothing showing up on google.
[17:02] <SauLus> Roasted: open another terminal and have an eye on the command 'tail -f /var/log/aptitude /var/log/apt/history.log /var/log/apt/term.log /var/log/syslog' during the aptitude thing
[17:03] <grekkos> how can I put the program icon in the titlebar with metacity
[17:03] <Xase> intel 4500mhd overscan on 1080p overscan
[17:04] <SauLus> Israfel: what do you mean with 3d graphing calc
[17:04] <Roasted> SauLus - and yet again, locked unkillable process....
[17:04] <anubis> what is the command to install openssh if i didnt do it during install?
[17:04] <erUSUL> !sshd | anubis
[17:04] <SauLus> Roasted: what do you mean?
[17:05] <erUSUL> Israfel: genious? use octave as ubercalculator ?
[17:05] <Israfel> SauLus: Something that I can input 3 variables and have it show a 3d object.
[17:05] <anubis> ty
[17:05] <Roasted> SauLus - it only seems I can run the command one time before it locks the process. Once that happens, I cant seem to kill it via terminal, system monitor, etc, I can only do it by rebooting.
[17:05] <Israfel> erUSUL: the name is genious? Or ubercalculator?
[17:05] <erUSUL> !info genious
[17:05] <SauLus> Israfel: how shall it be calculated? Implicitly? Explicitly? Parametric?
[17:06] <erUSUL> !info genius
[17:06] <Israfel> Any of the above...
[17:06] <erUSUL> !info gnome-genius
[17:06] <SauLus> Roasted: what does Ctrl+c do to the process. It shall kill it.
[17:06] <looonger> brontosaurusrex: yes, is it out?
[17:06] <Roasted> SauLus - I'm back int erminal at the regular prompt, but like I said when I rerun the command it says its locked. Its not what Im used to seeing...
[17:06] <brontosaurusrex> the regular version seems to be (entire family missing, bold, italic and such)
[17:07] <SauLus> Roasted you have two terminals open, right?
[17:07] <gondek> hi ppl
[17:07] <dshbusiness> thune3: well, it seems that there is some problem with my software source. I just can't connect to it
[17:07] <riyaz> any body tell me what is the application equi for run in windows
[17:07] <Roasted> SauLus - sure do.
[17:08] <SauLus> Roasted: Work on the first. Watch the logs with 'tail ...' on the second. Create a new one and write 'sudo pkill aptitude'
[17:08] <Israfel> Apparently every google link takes me to a forum where they talk about how there's no good calculators for Ubuntu. That's sad.
[17:09] <Roasted> SauLus - it still says its locked even after pskill aptitude.
[17:09] <Roasted> pkill
[17:09] <SauLus> Israfel: how shall it be calculated? Implicitly? Explicitly? Parametric? Do you want a numerical result or a visual output?
[17:09] <transom324> i need help with my network connections
[17:09] <Roasted> SauLus - see why Im so confused now?
[17:09] <Israfel> SauLus: Any of the above would be nice.
[17:09] <edbian> transom324, What's the problem?
[17:10] <SauLus> Roasted: pkill -f aptitude
[17:10] <Israfel> SauLus: Graphing would be a nice bonus.
[17:10] <riyaz> saulus:what is equi application as Run in ubuntu?
[17:10] <erUSUL> Israfel: install wxmaxima is like mathematica.
[17:10] <transom324> after an update last night my wireless and ethernet connections stopped working
[17:10] <Roasted> still locked
[17:10] <Israfel> AH, thanks. I know mathmatica.
[17:10] <erUSUL> Israfel: or the one already mentioned.
[17:11] <edbian> transom324, Do you have a wired connection.  (e.g. the wire is plugged in and should be working by all accounts?)
[17:11] <SauLus> Israfel: there is one very nice parametric. Sadly I cant reach my box at the moment to have a look for the name.
[17:11] <erUSUL> Israfel: in the sense that it has simlar capabilities. symbolic math etc ...
[17:11] <edbian> transom324, Please being your posts with my name like I'm doing for you.  It makes it easier for me to catch when you say things.
[17:11] <saby> hello
[17:11] <SauLus> riyaz: what does 'run' on windows do?
[17:11] <kuttan_>  Roasted: just do sudo su -
[17:11] <sacarlson> transom324:  what do you see at a terminal with ifconfig
[17:11] <transom324> yes but that's not working either
[17:12] <edbian> transom324, What if you run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[17:12] <edbian> ??
[17:12] <riyaz> saulus:it will run an application if path is given..
[17:12] <transom324> im currently using a live boot for this session
[17:12] <kuttan_> Roasted: then execute strace -o /tmp/strace.log apt-get dist*
[17:12] <SauLus> Roasted: whats the status?
[17:12] <edbian> transom324, If you ran off a live CD it's not going to affect your real install.
[17:13] <kuttan_> Roasted: later on upload /tmp/strace.log to pastebin
[17:13] <Roasted> SauLus - its still locked even after pkill -f
[17:13] <Israfel> Thanks, installing both of them now.
[17:13] <SauLus> riyaz: you dont need 'run' on linux. you can type a command and it is being executed. Press ctrl+alt+t for a terminal or alt+f2 for just one command entry box
[17:13] <transom324> it is the only way that i could connect to the internet to ask for help
[17:13] <saby> how do i set a drive to auto mount on startup ?
[17:14] <SauLus> Roasted: did you uses sudo pskill -f aptitude?
[17:14] <SauLus> -s
[17:14] <erUSUL> !fstab | saby
[17:14] <Roasted> SauLus - yep
[17:14] <edbian> saby, By creating an entry in the file /etc/fstab
[17:14] <SauLus> Roasted: then I think I cant help you. Sorry.
[17:14] <blet> how to monitor every applications' netflow ?
[17:14] <shockmount> i have a laptop and i having problems using my external monitor. Every time i close the laptop lid it goes into suspend mode how do i go about changing that?
[17:14] <SauLus> blet: iftop
[17:14] <edbian> Roasted, Maybe I can.  You killed all apt / dpkg related processes?
[17:15] <riyaz> saulus:where our installed components executable file will lie?
[17:15] <saby> edbian, but wouldnt that mount it as a folder ?
[17:15] <blet> SauLus, thx
[17:15] <SauLus> shockmount: change the energy settings in gnome
[17:15] <saby> or will it mount as a separate partition ?
[17:15] <Roasted> SauLus - I appreciate the help bro.
[17:15] <edbian> saby, Mounting anything means "putting it inside a folder"
[17:15] <edbian> saby, You mount a partition inside a folder.
[17:15] <Roasted> edbian - killed all as in, what? It seems to lock up by running 1 command, and nothing releases the lock except a reboot.
[17:15] <saby> oh ok so i can set it to mount in /mnt
[17:16] <edbian> Roasted, To be perfectly clear.  What command are you running that isn't working?
[17:16] <SauLus> riyaz: depends on the file. usually it has a name which is in the $PATH. Then you execute a program as /bin/ls by typing "ls".
[17:16] <transom324> edbian: i'll try your suggestion. thanks for your help
[17:16] <shockmount> SauLus: I dont get that option to change it to "off". Only thing I see is hibernate, suspend, shutdown, blank screen
[17:16] <saby> edbian, /dev/sda3 /mnt/ auto rw,auto,user,uid=your username 0 0
[17:16] <saby> is this fine ?
[17:16] <edbian> Roasted, And in answer to your question.  Look at ps -e (ps -e lists all the processes running on the system) If you see any processes in there that are related to apt they are the reason the file is locked.
[17:16] <edbian> saby, That looks good.
[17:16] <saby> :)
[17:16] <SauLus> edbian: please use the word directory instead of folder when you leave the desktop-metapher
[17:16] <edbian> saby, You have to specify the file system.  auto won't do it.
[17:17] <Roasted> edbian sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade iy
[17:17] <Roasted> -y
[17:17] <saby> ok
[17:17] <edbian> SauLus, sure
[17:17] <makulkar_> I'm in bit trouble as I have presentation tomorrow, and for some reason Im unable to project anything to projector! please help!
[17:17] <edbian> Roasted, Yeah.  Look at ps -e  make sure there aren't any processes running that have to do with the package manager.
[17:17] <saby> edbian, could you explain me "rw,auto,user,uid=your username 0 0"
[17:17] <edbian> If you'd like to use the gui then look at the system monitor, process tab
[17:18] <edbian> saby, rw = read/write, auto = mount at aboot time, user = user's can mount it, uid = I don't know, 0 and 0 means don't check the file system for problems ever.
[17:18] <SauLus> shockmount: it is "system > preferences > energy" and there have a look for the "lid" related things.
[17:18] <edbian> makulkar_, Boot the computer with the projector connected.
[17:18] <saby> edbian, thank you :)
[17:18] <edbian> saby, Yep.
[17:18] <Roasted> edbian - nothing sticks out as being related to package meneger that I see. theres aptitude, dpkg, frontend, and update-notifier, thats the closest I see.
[17:19] <sacarlson> makulkar_:  I asume you have a laptop and you want an external monitor/projector conected?
[17:19] <edbian> Roasted, You see aptitude in the output of ps -e ??
[17:19] <edbian> makulkar_, And with the projector turned on.
[17:19] <Roasted> edbian - I do. kill it?
[17:19] <tuberkulos> Does having Vista installed effect anything when using Ubuntu, except using memory on the harddrive?
[17:19] <makulkar_> edbian, ok let me try. Btw Systeim->Preferences->System resolution detects the LCD but fails to project
[17:19] <edbian> Roasted, Yes, that process is the reason for the lock file.
[17:19] <SauLus> aptitude and dpkg both block the system Roasted
[17:19] <Roasted> tuberkulos - it uses hard drive space, not memory. Two different things. :P
[17:20] <Roasted> edbian - pkill?
[17:20] <makulkar_> sacarlson, yes right. I was able to till yesterday but not today
[17:20] <edbian> makulkar_, All I know is that when I want any external display to work that I have to have it plugged in during the boot process.
[17:20] <shockmount> SauLus: What version of ubuntu are you running because i dont have "energy" i have "power management".
[17:20] <edbian> Roasted, kill <pid of aptitude>
[17:20] <edbian> Roasted, Then check ps -e again.  If it didn't kill it you might have to "kill -9 <pid of aptitude>"
[17:20] <SauLus> Roasted: hard drive space is also memory ;)
[17:21] <pooper> i have just installed 10.04 32-bit and I cant get the sound card to work. I need some help in figuring this out :S
[17:21] <SauLus> shockmount: youre right. I was just translating it.
[17:21] <makulkar_> edbian, ok it used to work without it before. Anyways will try rebooting. I suspect it may be due to gnome login error I get after login screen.
[17:21] <Roasted> edbian - it needed the -9 to kill it.
[17:21] <Roasted> SauLus - TECHNICALLY memory and storage are two different things. :P
[17:21] <edbian> makulkar_, Maybe.  Errors are generally not good.
[17:21] <edbian> Roasted, now try your command again.
[17:21] <SauLus> Roasted: Ok, we hang on definitions. Its time to stop ^
[17:21] <makulkar_> "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for Encryption Key Agent (Seahorse). Some of your configuration settings may not work properly."
[17:21] <SauLus> ^^
[17:22] <Roasted> SauLus - just going by what I was taught bro :P
[17:22] <shockmount> SauLus: Yes but if my options are: suspen, hibernate, blank, shutdown. I have no option other option to keep connection to HDMI
[17:22] <tuberkulos> Roasted, as you can see I am far from being a tech savvy
[17:22] <makulkar_> edbian, ^^ what does that error mean?
[17:22] <tuberkulos> Thank you for the prompt reply
[17:23] <SauLus> shockmount: where exactly are you looking for the setting?
[17:23] <edbian> makulkar_, I can't tell you very well.  I'd have to research it myself.
[17:23] <edbian> makulkar_, Doesn't appear to be anything to do with your monitor / external display though.
[17:23] <edbian> Roasted, Did it work?
[17:23] <shockmount> SauLus: I am looking in power management
[17:23] <makulkar_> edbian, ok will try to reboot now. Thanks!
[17:23] <edbian> makulkar_, Good luck.
[17:24] <pooper> what do you guys recommend alsa or pulseaudio??
[17:24] <Roasted> edbian - Im able to run the command, but when I run it again, it requires me to run configure -a first. I do that, then run the command again, and it freezes @ something about mysql server. After I run configure -a, I see errors were encountered while processing linux kernel 23, linux kernel 24, mysql-server-5.1, and linux-headers-generic.
[17:25] <sacarlson> pooper: no sound comes out.  if you play like mp3 does it seem to play but no sound or not seeing any sound device and can't play?
[17:25] <saby> edbian, that isnt working
[17:25] <saby> edbian, i used this "/dev/sda3 	/media/OS/ 	ntfs 	rw,auto,user,uid=saby 0 0"
[17:25] <SauLus> shockmount: where exactly? There are three tabs
[17:25] <pooper> sacarlson, the device is recognized when i do an lspci, however there is no audio comming out
[17:26] <The_Dude> I've got a brand new HDD wich I'm going to manualy partition. I know that grub2 needs at least 63 sectors of free space in front on the first partition to embed the core.img. How large is 63 sectors in bytes?
[17:26] <sacarlson> pooper: I'm sure you checked that the sound is not muted
[17:26] <pooper> sacarlson, i checked
[17:26] <pooper> sacarlson, its not muted
[17:27] <pooper> sacarlson, sshould i give alsa a try?
[17:27] <SauLus> The_Dude: I think you can not touch the first part of the disc drive using usual partition managers. So dont worry. Just partition and everything will be alright
[17:27] <shockmount> SauLus: I read on ubuntu that its a bug, so I may have to manual set it
[17:27] <saby> hi could anyone tell me how to mount a partition at startup, i am trying this in fstab "/dev/sda3 	/media/OS 	ntfs 	rw,auto,user,uid=saby 0 0"
[17:27] <sacarlson> pooper: so lspci what card is it.  I use pulseaudio  the now default.   I'm not sure alsa would be better or worse
[17:27] <SauLus> shockmount: ok
[17:28] <The_Dude> Well, the last time (on Debian) I got the message that the embedding area was unusually small
[17:28] <SauLus> saby: do you have created the directory /media/OS? Does /dev/sda3 exist? Is it a ntfs partition? What happens with your command?
[17:28] <makulkar_> edbian, it worked and started showing login screen. Once  it started logging in, couple of errors and "No Single" on external display
[17:29] <pooper> sacarlson, lspci outputs: "Audio device: VIA technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA high Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[17:29] <BluesKaj> pooper, alsa is the default kernel source driver , pulseaudio uses it to run on top as a optional audio processor.So it's not an either or situation
[17:29] <SauLus> The_Dude: which program do you want to use for the partitioning?
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[17:29] <FloodBot2> ozan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:29] <The_Dude> SauLus : The Gparted live cd
[17:29] <SauLus> The_Dude: do you want to install ubuntu?
[17:30] <saby> SauLus, i get "Unable to mount OS fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/OS/: no such file or directory"
[17:30] <The_Dude> SauLus, Yes
[17:30] <kuttan>  
[17:30] <saby> ok i got it , i think cos i forgot to create the folder :P
[17:30] <SauLus> saby: do "sudo mkdir -f /media/OS"
[17:30] <saby> :)
[17:30] <sacarlson> pooper: well I've use via sound card in one system not that exact number so it should probly work.
[17:30] <The_Dude> SauLus, I want to lay out the drive my own  way
[17:30] <Roasted> edbian - in regard to the 4 errors I found (kernel 23, 24, linux headers generic, mysql server) do you think thats a red flag?
[17:30] <SauLus> The_Dude: then do the partitioning with the ubuntu installer. It knows how to handle grub_2
[17:30] <kuttan> hi
[17:31] <SauLus> The_Dude: you can do that using the installer. just use your own scheme. The installer creates it for you.
[17:31] <pooper> sacarlson, what if I reinstall pulse-audio??
[17:31] <The_Dude> SauLus, OK, gonna use the Ubuntu installer.
[17:31] <edbian> Roasted, Sorry, I'm here now.  Lemme read a bit.
[17:31] <sacarlson> pooper: seems they have a bug in that device https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/476890
[17:31] <SauLus> The_Dude: makes life easier ;)
[17:32] <saby> SauLus & edbian thank you :)
[17:32] <edbian> saby, "saby" is not a uid.  I suggest just getting rid of uid.  UID is a number.  A user ID number.
[17:32] <saby> edbian, so i should use 1000 instead of saby
[17:32] <edbian> Roasted, Uhh, sudo aptitude install -f
[17:33] <edbian> saby, If that's your uid.  (probably is)
[17:33] <thune3> saby: not a huge thing, but ubuntu convention puts fixed mountpoints under /mnt/, /media is for dynamic (auto) mounts. Not a big deal. (fstab *will* understand uid=saby)
[17:33] <saby> ya shows that in passwd file :)
[17:33] <edbian> Roasted, That fixes broken packages.  Aptitude does a better job and resolving problems than apt-get does.
[17:33] <edbian> saby, Then yes.
[17:33] <saby> thune3, ok :)
[17:33] <pooper> sacarlson, any suggestions? Or should I look for another sound card :p
[17:34] <sacarlson> pooper:  well did it work in a previose version?
[17:34] <ozan> Can you give me as where komfigurasi postfi mail server...
[17:34] <edbian> Roasted, The package manager is running again which means we fixed the original problem.  Now you just have broken / misconfigured packages.  That's another beast :)
[17:34] <Roasted> edbian - while the command completed and came back to the regular prompt, I did get some errors, including for kernel 23, 24, linux headers generic, and mysql server (again)
[17:34] <edbian> Roasted, Mmm, I'm not sure?
[17:34] <pooper> sacarlson, This machine had 8.04 on it... I did a fresh install of 10.04 and the sound is dead
[17:34] <pooper> sacarlson, on 8.04 it worked
[17:35] <edbian> Roasted, I guess you'll have to be more specific.  Do you consider the problem to be fixed or should we continue working?
[17:35] <Professor_G> i hate my wirles it workes fine here intermitant at home and at the jym its like connect for 5 secconds then dissconect. stc
[17:35] <ibrahim-kasem> is there anyone using tor ? with firefox
[17:35] <Roasted> edbian - well, the command complete,d but it looks the same as before. let me pastebin it.
[17:35] <sacarlson> pooper: well the driver is probly in the kernel so eather try to go back to your old kernel or try to go forward and get a newer kernel
[17:35] <edbian> Roasted, ok.
[17:35] <Professor_G> any solutions
[17:36] <Roasted> edbian - http://pastebin.org/457758
[17:36] <edbian> Roasted, Oh! You're on kde! :)
[17:37] <Roasted> edbian - I sure aint :P
[17:37] <Roasted> edbian - and the confusion continues!
[17:37] <edbian> Roasted, some file is still locked!  See line 55 ??
[17:37] <sacarlson> pooper: it looks like they have a fix linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic  not sure what they have for 10.04
[17:37] <ibrahim-kasem> #tor
[17:38] <ozan> ok
[17:38] <Roasted> edbian - I see that nowl..
[17:38] <Roasted> edbian - any idea about the kde thing? Im definitely not on kde...
[17:38] <pooper> mmm
[17:38] <Professor_G> i need help
[17:39] <Professor_G> i hate my wirles it workes fine here intermitant at home and at the jym its like connect for 5 secconds then dissconect. stc
[17:39] <Professor_G> wireless
[17:39] <pooper> sacarlson, so just to be sure, you're saying that installing alsa will not make a difference?
[17:39] <zelrikriando> hello
[17:39] <Roasted> edbian - what kind of time frame am I looking to get this working? Should I just reinstall?
[17:39] <edbian> Roasted, The packages that are broken are kde packages.  A lot of these packages are kde packages!  plasma widgets workspace kpackagekit  kubuntu-debug-installer
[17:40] <edbian> Roasted, Oh no no, we're close.
[17:40] <sacarlson> pooper:  it won't kill you to try but it looks like alsa has a history of a bug in that model sound card
[17:40] <Roasted> edbian - I have no idea about the kde packages - the only kde application I have installed (to my knowledge) is ktorrent.
[17:40] <edbian> Roasted, Did you say you had some front-end running in ps -e?
[17:40] <zelrikriando> Is there somebody experienced at installing Wow on ubuntu here?
[17:40] <Roasted> edbian - let me recheck
[17:40] <edbian> Roasted, ktorrent will depend on a lot of kde stuff.
[17:40] <edbian> Roasted, on second though, just pastebin your ps -e
[17:40] <Roasted> edbian - I have a process simply called frontend
[17:40] <pooper> sacarlson, and pulseaudio is the default controller in 10.04 correct?
[17:40] <edbian> Roasted, I'll give back of a list of all the things we need to kill.
[17:40] <edbian> Roasted, It'll be easier that way.
[17:41] <AlphaWaves> hey ul banned$
[17:41] <Roasted> edbian http://pastebin.org/457777
[17:41] <edbian> Roasted, What happened last time was the package manager crashed and left a bunch of it's little sub processes running.  Now we have to stop them all before any instance of the package manager can work again.
[17:41] <sacarlson> pooper: yes , I think I would try see about installing that latist kernel for 10.04 first,  if that fails go for the backport fix
[17:41] <BluesKaj> pooper have you tried alsa without pulseaudio ?
[17:41] <edbian> Roasted, kill frontend
[17:41] <edbian> Roasted, You know you're running a web server?
[17:42] <saby> how do i remove the mounted partition icons from the desktop ?
[17:42] <pooper> BluesKaj, no I have not
[17:42] <BluesKaj> what soundcard , pooper ?
[17:42] <edbian> Roasted, That appears to be it.  Just frontend.  Then try that command again.  sudo aptitude install -f
[17:42] <edbian> saby, Reboot.
[17:43] <pooper> BluesKaj, lspci outputs: "Audio device: VIA technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA high Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[17:43] <saby> edbian, not that, i mean permanently remove so that it doesnt show the mounted drives on the desktop :)
[17:43] <edbian> saby, Mount them in a different place than /media
[17:44] <Roasted> edbian - yeah I have apache running if I want to host a file real quick to a buddy. Other than that it doesnt serve any other purpose.
[17:44] <edbian> Roasted, cool.
[17:44] <saby> edbian, isnt there anyway other than mounting them in a place other than /media as when pen drives or external drives auto mount, it will still show that
[17:44] <bonhoffer> is there a way to get the last 5 files from ls -lt
[17:45] <edbian> saby, Not that a I know of. Them showing on the desktop is a feature :)
[17:45] <AlphaWaves> n omatter
[17:45] <llutz> bonhoffer: |tail -5
[17:45] <Roasted> edbian - k I ran install -f again.
[17:45] <Roasted> where to now?
[17:45] <edbian> saby, There might be a way.  I just don't know of it.
[17:45] <edbian> Roasted, Well what happened?
[17:45] <pooper> BluesKaj, any suggestions?
[17:45] <Roasted> gave me the same output as before, command completed, but said errors with kernel 23, 24, generic headers, and mysql 5.1
[17:45] <Roasted> server
[17:45] <edbian> Roasted, We are trying to get to the point where running aptitude install -f does nothing.
[17:45] <saby> edbian, ya i think there is cos i had done it in 9.04 and i cant remember it now how i did it :P
[17:46] <Roasted> edbian - ehh... hmm.
[17:46] <edbian> Roasted, Can you pastebin the output again?
[17:46] <Roasted> edbian - sure
[17:46] <bonhoffer> llutz: thanks
[17:47] <BluesKaj> !intelhda | pooper
[17:47] <transom324> edbian: I tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart.  it didn't fix the problem.  I'm back on the live cd
[17:47] <Roasted> edbian - http://pastebin.org/457796
[17:47] <edbian> transom324, I don't know then!  Sorry.  I have to go soon and I don't have time to help you.
[17:47] <bonhoffer> llutz: is there a way to see more of the file in tail
[17:47] <llutz> bonhoffer: sure, "man tail" tells you
[17:47] <BluesKaj> pooper,your VIA soundcard usues an intel chip , hence the tutorial above
[17:48] <transom324> edbian: thanks again
[17:48] <bonhoffer> llutz: thought of that as soon as i hit enter
[17:48] <pooper> BluesKaj, I will give that a shot
[17:48] <pooper> thnx!
[17:48] <BluesKaj> pooper, let's hope it works
[17:48] <edbian> Roasted, I'm not sure.  That same file is still locked.  My suggestion: restart the PC (will kill a bunch of processes) and if that command still doesn't finish.  (It might be ending but it's not doing what it set out to do.  You should get nothing like lines 24 - 36.
[17:49] <edbian> Roasted, If it still doesn't finish without errors ask around here some more.  Additionally re-installing the OS will fix the problem but it will be overkill on a massive scale.
[17:49] <Roasted> edbian - rebooting. youre saying run the install -f command when I boot up again?
[17:49] <SauLus> edbian: what is the status with Roasted ?
[17:49] <transom324> Anyone: Is there a way to undo a update manager change?
[17:49] <Roasted> edbian - well I have my partitions split fortunately.
[17:49] <edbian> Roasted, Yeah, run aptitude install -f after you've rebooted.
[17:49] <Roasted> edbian - besides, I have a listing of all of the programs I have installed, so a single apt-get install blah blah blah blah blah command I could have my stuff back pretty soon.
[17:50] <edbian> SauLus, aptitude install -f cannot finish because it is stuck on a locked file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[17:50] <Roasted> edbian - I've used Ubuntu long enough to find out the easy ways of getting things running again when a problem comes about - Im just stubborn and like to try and figure out the problem before I reinstall. :P
[17:50] <SauLus> edbian: did you try lsof?
[17:51] <edbian> Roasted, It's better to fix the problem this way than to re-install.  It's akin to "The light at the top of the stairs is out"  I'll buy a new house with a light bulb that isn't burned out and burn down my old house.  Also I have a storage locker I put all my stuff in so this will be easy.
[17:51] <edbian> SauLus, Nope
[17:51] <SauLus> Roasted: what does lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat results to?
[17:51] <edbian> SauLus, Have fun!
[17:51] <noob7> how can I get a sorted(by size) table of all the files/directories from the terminal (I tried du -s * |sort -n but I'd like to see it  human-readable)
[17:51] <edbian> Roasted, Good luck!
[17:51] <SauLus> hrhr edbian ;)
[17:51] <edbian> Off to work with me! :)
[17:52] <edbian> noob7, Hell of a question for a "noob"
[17:52] <edbian> noob7, :)
[17:52] <Roasted> edbian, its locking up again when running that command.
[17:52] <Roasted> edbian - thanks for your help, but I think we're toast.
[17:52] <noob7> yep
[17:52] <Roasted> I probably shouldnt have removed the newer kensl in synaptic
[17:52] <edbian> Roasted, Ha ha.  Not yet.  You're just in waist deep.
[17:52] <Roasted> kernels*
[17:52] <nhandler> Does anyone have a link handy pointing to the wiki page (or ubuntu.com page) that actually defines "Ubuntu"? I know it exists, I just can't remember where it is
[17:53] <Rp3> in google chrome I seem to get the 'resolving host' issue, but doesn't seem bad in FF, might be perception, but any thoughts any one?
[17:54] <Hilikus> hey guys
[17:54] <markie-> when ever i play a sound file, the sound comes through the speakers and the earphones, can anybody help me with making it go through one at a time
[17:54] <transom324> help! i can't connect from my wireless or ethernet
[17:55] <BluesKaj> markie-, do yo have vol ctrl on the speakers ?
[17:57] <noob7> markie: how is it possible to have the earphone and the speakers acitve (isn't there only place for one to plug in)?
[17:57] <suprengr> nhandler: Ubuntu philosophy of Desmond Tutu is the interpretation used by Canonical http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-142291.html would be a starting oint perhaps...
[17:57] <cheesepie> lets say, I surf sites in chromium... where in the location where the entries get stored.. Does clearing history remove all traces of my surfing history..
[17:57] <Hilikus> some fonts in firefox are now appearing like in a different alphabet. this happened like 1 month ago. anyone else experiencing this?
[17:57] <jjmartin_> i have a lenovo y550p.  2.6.32-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 28 06:07:29 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux. it will randomly lockup, i can move the mouse but clicking and typing do not work. I cannot switch to a virtual terminal. this is happened randomly
[17:58] <transom324> help! i can't connect from my wireless or ethernet
[17:59] <nhandler> suprengr: That talks a bit more about the philosophy behind it. The page I'm thinking of says something like "Ubuntu comes from the African word for _____" or something similar
[17:59] <transom324> the problem began after a update manager system update
[17:59] <saby> hi anyone knows how to use snort ?
[17:59] <markie-> noob7: my speakers are built into the monitor
[18:00] <noob7> markie: get a new monitor ;)
[18:00] <SimonP86> hello, I've installed Ubuntu 10.04 and it seems to come without the java runtime installed
[18:00] <SimonP86> is this correct?
[18:00] <Guest55876> no
[18:00] <tux11> it doesn't come with the java runtime
[18:01] <tux11> go look up included  packages
[18:01] <Oer> SimonP86, yes, install medibuntu for flash and java
[18:01] <thune3> jjmartin_: can you move window around with mouse, launch new apps etc. Is you problem really that the keyboard stops working?
[18:01] <SimonP86> medibuntu? ok :)
[18:01] <noob7> markie: as BluesKaj told maybe you can turn off the sound via the buttons of the monitor
[18:01] <jjmartin_> thune3, no i cant do those things.
[18:01] <markie-> noob7: let me try it
[18:01] <tux11> acer aspire d250
[18:01] <jjmartin_> thune3, the mouse moves but clicking does not work. typing does not work
[18:02] <tux11> lol
[18:02] <tux11> then what you now doing?
[18:02] <tux11> swifty!! you are!!!
[18:02] <tux11> your typing now brani trust
[18:02] <SimonP86> Oer: sudo apt-get install medibuntu?
[18:03] <Iszak> So lets say I want to install Ubuntu if I create a partition from my primary windows drive, and install it onto that and then later decide I want to go full ubuntu I just delete the windows partition and extend the ubuntu partition?
[18:03] <cheesepie> lets say, I surf sites in chromium... where in the location where the entries get stored.. Does clearing history remove all traces of my surfing history..
[18:03] <markie-> BluesKaj: noob7 thanks, gosh sometimes things are that simple eh :P
[18:03] <opossum_oisif> hi, I have an encrypt partition and it is not readable when I use a live cd I would know how do I decrypt it?
[18:03] <tux11> or ubuntu software center
[18:03] <Oer> SimonP86, yes :-)
[18:03] <noob7> :)
[18:03] <transom324> help! i can't connect from my wireless or ethernet
[18:03] <SimonP86> Oer: doesn't seem to be working
[18:04] <SauLus> Iszak: basically: Yes
[18:04] <Iszak> Excellent, just wanted confirmation, thanks.
[18:04] <jjmartin_> transom324, drivers
[18:04] <Oer> !medibuntu
[18:04] <thune3> jjmartin_: bluetooth, usb, or ps2 keyboard/mouse?
[18:04] <kuttan> Today I did 200'th installation of ubuntu Yayae!
[18:05] <BluesKaj>  transom324 , do you see the networkmanager icon in the panel , if so right click , maqnage connections
[18:05] <SauLus> kuttan: you dont need to reinstall ubuntu every day ;p
[18:05] <tux11> lol
[18:05] <kenalex> lol
[18:05] <Oer> SimonP86, sorry, you have to add the repository as shown https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:05] <jjmartin_> thune3, mouse usb, keyboard hardwired. apps stop working. i have gui but nothing updates. I did get audio still playing for several minuets
[18:05] <sianhulo>  aid,  grub or gparted dont recognizes my partitions.disk utility tesdisk fdisk recognize them, and I can access them from a live cd
[18:05] <SimonP86> Oer: thanks, I'm on the case :)
[18:05] <tux11> just go through ubuntu software center
[18:05] <tux11> call it a day
[18:05] <sianhulo> then,i cant acces to any OS
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[18:06] <tux11> i mainly just use ubuntu
[18:06] <tux11> windows 7 is good too
[18:06] <transom324> BluesKaj: i tried that to no avail
[18:06] <cheesepie> lets say, I surf sites in chromium... where in the location where the entries get stored.. Does clearing history remove all traces of my surfing history..
[18:07] <sianhulo> any help?
[18:07] <sianhulo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/475006/
[18:07] <SauLus> cheesepie: maybe you should consider asking somewhere else. like in #chromium
[18:07] <transom324> BluesKaj: the problem started after update manger session
[18:08] <transom324> BluesKaj: can i undo the update manager changes
[18:08] <thefatloverboy> wanna find a program to keep clean my xubuntu? can you help me
[18:08] <tux11> yes that should clear all traces
[18:08] <thune3> jjmartin_: this is in a normal install (not virtual machine)? Sounds like a crash i guess. Is there anything know action (screensaver/wireless connect/suspend
[18:08] <thefatloverboy> yes
[18:08] <thefatloverboy> wht the name ?
[18:08] <tux11> i mainly use the recovery app
[18:08] <thune3> jjmartin_: that preceeds failure?
[18:10] <tux11> the recovery app seems to work
[18:10] <transom324> jjmartin: my problem began after a update manager session
[18:10] <tux11> thats odd
[18:10] <thefatloverboy> what the name?
[18:11] <thefatloverboy> what ś the name?
[18:11] <fancybit> hello?
[18:11] <transom324> jjmartin: after the update i couldn't connect to the network using wired or wireless
[18:11] <IRC-User933> hi
[18:11] <fancybit> any old frineds?:)
[18:11] <ankit> hi guys
[18:11] <darkzay> hi
[18:12] <tux11> could be your hardware
[18:12] <fancybit> I'm installing CDT on the eclipse
[18:12] <jjmartin_> transom324, did you update the kernel
[18:12] <Hilikus> how can i set a hdd spindown time in ubuntu server?
[18:12] <SauLus> sianhulo: the pastebin is the output from which program?
[18:12] <jjmartin_> thune3, normal install. sound plays past the failoure
[18:13] <tux11> oh of course it not his hardware oh no
[18:13] <transom324> jjmartin: i don't know is there a log i could check?
[18:13] <tux11> lol
[18:13] <SauLus> Hilikus: you can tune such things with the smartmoontools, I suppose
[18:13] <suprengr> nhandler: you still there?
[18:13] <nhandler> Yep suprengr
[18:13] <thefatloverboy> i wanna find a program to keep my xubuntu clean , can you help me ?
[18:13] <jjmartin_> the amount of time or application that causes it problem is unknown
[18:13] <SimonP86> I've followed the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu to add the Medibuntu repository to Ubuntu
[18:13] <suprengr> nhandler: got it?!!   http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu
[18:14] <SimonP86> but I still can't see the java runtime in the Ubuntu Software Centre
[18:14] <nhandler> suprengr: You rock. Thanks
[18:14] <ankit> i am not able to change my passwords,i think my system is compromised.I have doing this alll day long.
[18:14] <suprengr> nhandler: no prob
[18:14] <jjmartin_> transom324, did you grub menu get longer?
[18:15] <darkzay> ankit did you click on your profile on the top right and changed it there?
[18:15] <ankit> no success
[18:15] <transom324> jjmartin: not noticbly
[18:15] <thefatloverboy> help
[18:15] <fancybit> I've enabled CDT pack in preference(eclipse) but can't find it in help->install new software.
[18:16] <ankit> it does not changes by any method
[18:16] <thefatloverboy> i wanna find a program to keep my xubuntu clean ? any idea ?
[18:16] <fancybit> No repository found at http://download.eclipse.org/tools/cdt/releases/galileo.
[18:16] <jjmartin_> transom324, boot into an older kernel version from the grub menu.
[18:16] <sacarlson> SimonP86:  you might try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:16] <fancybit> the eclipse response me this
[18:16] <abhijit> hello. :)
[18:16] <fancybit> where can I get help?
[18:16] <jjmartin_> fancybit, whats the problem?
[18:16] <abhijit> !ask | fancybit
[18:17] <transom324> jjmartin:  will do.  thanks.
[18:17] <fancybit> ok i'll tidy my words wait a moment.
[18:17] <jjmartin_> transom324, lsmod, modprob -l
[18:17] <jjmartin_> fancybit, i use eclipse
[18:17] <thefatloverboy> how can i keep my xubuntu clean ?
[18:17] <magicianlord> I
[18:17] <magicianlord> thefatloverboy: sudo apt-get autoclean
[18:18] <androidrocks135> What is the minimum amount of RAM to run Ubuntu on a netbook?  I've found conflicting numbers all over the website.
[18:18] <thefatloverboy> thanks
[18:18] <cheesepie> lets say, I surf sites in chromium... where in the location where the entries get stored.. Does clearing history remove all traces of my surfing history..
[18:18] <darkzay> yes
[18:18] <magicianlord> androidrocks135: 512mb is sufficient, no swap
[18:18] <ankit> what should i do now?
[18:18] <jjmartin_> androidrocks135, 512 ish
[18:18] <Daekdroom> androidrocks135, 512MB for decent performance
[18:18] <darkzay> ankit try this
[18:18] <darkzay> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435383
[18:18] <abhijit> ankit, what your question is related to? i just logged in
[18:19] <androidrocks135> mmm... I have a 10 year old computer, 328 is its max... great, guess its time to update.
[18:19] <SauLus> cheesepie: maybe you should consider asking somewhere else. like in #chromium
[18:19] <subspider> !lubuntu
[18:19] <ankit> i m not able to change my admin passwords,abhijit
[18:19] <Hilikus> !virtualbox
[18:19] <subspider> i need to run a comand as a root on startup to have server running in lubuntu how???
[18:19] <abhijit> ankit, ammmm ok first see what darkzay is saying
[18:21] <ankit> darkzay,thanks it worked
[18:21] <SauLus> subspider: use /etc/rc.d/
[18:21] <darkzay> np first time i have helped someone lol
[18:21] <ankit> god bless u
[18:21] <llutz> subspider: single command? use /etc/rc.local
[18:21] <jjmartin_> thune3, any ideas?
[18:21] <sacarlson> androidrocks135:  if you can aford it ya get a newer one.  even a used one would have plenty of power.  but they worked then and they can still work today.
[18:21] <tux11> i'm back like slim shady
[18:21] <tux11> any agys?
[18:22] <SimonP86> I apologise if I'm missing something obvious but why can't I just do sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre instead of trying to install the Medibuntu package?
[18:23] <abhijit> !java | SimonP86
[18:23] <tux11> i need a gay tech
[18:24] <ankit> ubottu,how much intelligence have been fed in you?
[18:24] <thune3> jjmartin_: not really, i've been looking and not finding anything. It doesn't sound like a crash exactly (unless the sound gives up after a while as well).
[18:24] <sacarlson> SimonP86:  well I don't see sun-java6-jre in the repository but I gave you a name that did install java and other good stuf sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:25] <Hilikus> guys i'm deciding which edition of virtualbox to install. USB and RDP sound tempting, are those really not available in the opensource version?
[18:25] <jjmartin_> thune3, not being about to use the OS is a crash
[18:25] <BluesKaj> tux11, we don't discriminate here , so finding a gay person to help is immaterial :)
[18:25] <tux11> lol
[18:25] <llutz> Hilikus: usb isn't, but there's nothing wrong with the PUEL Version, its just not free
[18:25] <ankit> can you show me your brain,ubottu
[18:25] <tux11> iwnat a gay man for me and some one so chill
[18:26] <Hilikus> llutz: whats PUEL
[18:26] <llutz> Hilikus: the non-OSE version
[18:26] <thune3> jjmartin_: what graphics chip do you have? lspci | grep VGA  . It doesn't sound like a "hard kernel lockup", is what i'm saying.
[18:26] <holymoly> ankit, don't mess with the bot ;)
[18:26] <delimax> PUEL: personal use evaluation license
[18:26] <ankit> :-)
[18:26] <Tw|sT> !r8169
[18:26] <aeon-ltd> tux11: take it to ot
[18:27] <Hilikus> llutz: i'm just thunking that probably patches are submitted faster for the OSE version since anyone can contribute. am i wrong?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> !offtopic | tux11
[18:27] <Tw|sT> !realtek
[18:27] <jjmartin_> thune3, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 240M] (rev a2) running nouveau
[18:27] <philip___> when unraring, all my apps become grayed out (memory is not an issue, 4GB). It seems like Ubuntu has a disk I/O issue. Anyone has a fix?
[18:27] <subspider> hi thnks guys it's working the command
[18:27] <llutz> Hilikus: i don't know, ask at #vbox
[18:27] <subspider> :)
[18:28] <tux11> yup
[18:28] <tux11> any well versed with the ubuntu softwrae center?
[18:28] <subspider> how can i start session automatically in lubuntu ????
[18:28] <tux11> what disk i/o issue?
[18:29] <aeon-ltd> subspider: using a login manager like ldm, gdm, kdm etc
[18:29] <Dick> As you know, Adobe Systems is the root of all evil to the open-source community.
[18:29] <darkzay> very true
[18:30] <BluesKaj> !repositories | tux11
[18:30] <subspider> aeon-ltd, where do i configure it ??
[18:30] <sacarlson> subspider: http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-automati-logon-in-ubuntu-or-kubuntu.html
[18:31] <subspider> thnks sacarlson
[18:31] <Wade> anyone got a second to help me with an architechual setup problem? lengthy and don't want to flood the channel with specifics
[18:31] <gsp2009> Good day folks.
[18:31] <abhijit> hi
[18:32] <darkzay> hi
[18:32] <sacarlson> Wade: architechual setup problem?
[18:32] <gsp2009> Can someone tell me if there is any merit to the myth about installing too many fonts? Can it really slow down your system? I am running 10.
[18:32] <gsp2009> 04
[18:32] <fancybit> any introduce me some interesting 3D game on ubuntu?
[18:32] <Wade> yeah, like where to put some stuff directory/permission setup etc
[18:32] <darkzay> warsaw @ fancybit
[18:32] <darkzay> warsow* sorry
[18:33] <gizmobay> I'm compiling sw that I get from a svn. how can I tell my source url?
[18:33] <Wade> for maximum expandability and future growth.. want to setup properly first
[18:33] <jjmartin_> nexus fancybit
[18:33] <fancybit> what's mean?
[18:33] <thune3> jjmartin_: if you know you have some crazy 3rd party driver installed, i would suspect that. Otherwise I'm out of ideas, sry.
[18:33] <Maple12> Can someone help me with putting my old Windows XP disc rip onto a USB stick?
[18:33] <ankit> alien arena
[18:34] <jjmartin_> thune3, i don
[18:34] <abhijit> fancybit, visit getdeb.com. some games i like- freecol,freeciv,widelands,maryo,urbanterror
[18:34] <jjmartin_> thune3, i dont know what to look for in kernel.log
[18:34] <sacarlson> Wade: oh ok,  all I can say is put /home  in a different partition it can get unlimited big.  and the install size I now use 100gb but can be as small as 10gig
[18:34] <thefatloverboy> how can i fix my compiz in xubuntu?
[18:34] <darkzay> Maple12 http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5928902.html
[18:35] <subspider> sacarlson, lubuntu uses lxde right ??
[18:35] <darkzay> thefatloverboy ; what is wrong with your compiz
[18:35] <saganbyte> Hello
[18:35] <sacarlson> subspider: lxde?  don't know what that is
[18:35] <Maple12> darkzay: does this work for ubuntu?
[18:35] <tux11> i love ubuntu
[18:35] <darkzay> it should
[18:35] <tux11> just found a new theme app
[18:36] <abhijit> fancybit, warsow is agame.
[18:36] <tux11> http://www.bisigi-project.org/?page_id=8&lang=en#ubuntu
[18:36] <tux11> sucky game at best
[18:36] <thefatloverboy> is at the start of my computer it is like flashig
[18:36] <FiremanEd> !ot | tux11
[18:36] <Maple12> i hope so. ubuntu is okay, but i kinda want windows as a dualboot
[18:36] <saganbyte> If I change the default window manager to something like fluxbox, will I be able to configure wireless again? The restricted drivers are enabled alreadt
[18:36] <subspider> sacarlson, http://lxde.org/
[18:37] <darkzay> I usually use virtualbox to use windows
[18:37] <tux11> its a new themer app
[18:37] <tux11> http://www.bisigi-project.org/?page_id=8&lang=en#ubuntu
[18:37] <thune3> jjmartin_: kern.log may not have much, check /var/log/syslog just before your reboot.
[18:37] <abhijit> tux11, ysh. iknow about it. its really cool!
[18:37] <tux11> pretty good?
[18:37] <abhijit> tux11, yes.
[18:38] <Wade> Sacarlson: I got that far... what I need now is how to properly setup, apache2/php/mysql/subversion/samba in a location where 3 potetial developers can be working from their windows machine VPN'd into the network, editing php files in their own branches, so that the subdomains of their branch point to their own folders in teh samba share?
[18:38] <Wade> That is where I'm lost
[18:38] <tux11> i'll only put questiions here
[18:38] <abhijit> !pm | tux11
[18:38] <fancybit> thanks, I'm downloading.
[18:39] <nisstyre65> What font does Ubuntu use by default in gnome?
[18:39] <nisstyre65> I'm curious
[18:39] <tux11> wasn't for the main room
[18:39] <sacarlson> Wade:  you offering me a job?  I'm sure I can do it but it will cost you.
[18:39]  * Zzubuntoo was #ed by that Ubuntu Russian didn't have "Network Configuration" translated
[18:39]  * Zzubuntoo has Ubuntu 8.x
[18:39] <saganbyte> how do i open the network applet from the terminal?
[18:39] <aayush> i am using Lucid, i am unable to share my folder through nautilus, it shows this error message 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied... how to fix it
[18:39] <SimonP86> what's the difference between the openjdk-6-jre and openjdk-6-jre-headless packages?
[18:40] <Zzubuntoo> ...
[18:40] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: you don't need networkmanager to get your network up
[18:40] <SimonP86> and which one do I need if I just want to run java programs
[18:40] <zenix> Hello, Ubuntu can read files from external hard drives with NTFS file format? (When this well is Microsoft's format?)
[18:40] <vishalrana> I am on ubuntu 10.04, somehow I deleted all the files in /usr/lib/apache2/modules, is there a way I can get them back or set it to default installation?
[18:40] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, i m asking this coz i intend to install fluxbox window manager... once i do that, i will have to get the wireless network up again
[18:41] <Wade> Sacarlson: I'm sure I could do it too... but is it safe to allow samba to share var/www/ folder?
[18:41] <Zzubuntoo> =_=
[18:41] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, the last time i tried this, i couldnt get the wireless working
[18:41] <mejjad> zenix: yes
[18:41] <sacarlson> Wade: I've sent you off line mesage
[18:41] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: you can't run the network manager applet on fluxbox
[18:41] <nisstyre65> it requires gnome
[18:41] <zenix> mejjad: thanks.
[18:41] <nisstyre65> use wicd instead
[18:42] <aayush> i am using Lucid, i am unable to share my folder through nautilus, it shows this error message 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied... how to fix it
[18:42] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, then how can i enable wireless with another window manager.... will it come with its own network manager?
[18:42] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: you can install wicd or do it manually http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless#Manual_setup
[18:42] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, wats wicd?
[18:42] <nisstyre65> wicd is another program like network manager
[18:43] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, i see... thanks for this link :)
[18:43] <gsp2009> can anyone tell me if installing many fonts on 10.04 can slow down system performance?
[18:44] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, should i install wicd before installing fluxbox?
[18:44] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: it doesn't really matter
[18:44] <darkzay> gsp2009 i doubt it would slow down it probably would only slow down if your in a text document
[18:44] <nisstyre65> I guess if you don't want to have to get the wifi up manually
[18:44] <xangua> gsp2009: it could just slow down openoffice
[18:44] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, coz i wont have the wireless internet up and running immediately when i log in thru fluxbox right?
[18:44] <xangua> or other office suite
[18:44] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: yeah, that's correct
[18:44] <abhijit> hey i was disconnected.
[18:45] <abhijit> Zzubuntoo, then contribute by translating it.
[18:45] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, then how will i be able to install wicd at that time
[18:45] <saganbyte> wired?
[18:45] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: well, you can get the wifi up with some command line tools
[18:45] <gsp2009> darkzay: xangua. thanks. I didn't think so, but I had heard that it would so I didn't want to install a couple of hundred fonts at once, just in case.
[18:45] <thefatloverboy> how can i update skype ?
[18:45] <darkzay> gsp2009 have a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=743158
[18:45] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, actually that s what i intended to find out how to
[18:45] <abhijit> thefatloverboy, download latest versin from there site.
[18:46] <slidinghorn> thefatloverboy:  what version do you have; what version do you want to upgrade to; and why?
[18:46] <gsp2009> darkzay: thanks.
[18:46] <kx> I have compiled a kernel obtaining the source with git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git MyDirectory. Now I want to update the files to the latest 2.6.32-24.39 additions. Is there a git command to do that?
[18:46] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: the link I gave you shows you all of the steps needed
[18:46] <thefatloverboy> i got 2.1 is this one the last ?
[18:47] <nisstyre65> you can definitely get wireless in fluxbox without the need to install anything else
[18:47] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, oh i m so sorry, i ll look through that, thanks for your patience tho :)
[18:47] <darkzay> thefatloverboy: if you downloaded it via software centre it should be
[18:47] <slidinghorn> thefatloverboy:  well...what version do you want to upgrade to?   why do you want to upgrade?
[18:47] <X-Sleepy-X> So, I'm comparing my two installations of Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm searching synaptic for "samba" on one of the computers i see that libpam-smbpass is installed and it's not on the other computer. The one that has it installed can see the computers of the network and vice versa, i've done the same setup on both of the computers so how come one of them has that package and one doesn't? I've not installed anything through synaptic when
[18:47] <X-Sleepy-X>  it comes to file sharing, I've only done it by clicking in nautilus... Any help / guidance in this matter is most welcome! :)
[18:47] <magicianlord> you can connect wirelessly with 3 commands in cli
[18:47] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: however it's more convenient to use a tool like network-manager or wicd
[18:47] <xerox1> flipboard seems to be a great hype in the last few weeks; is there something like that for linux?
[18:47] <nisstyre65> that's why they exist
[18:47] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, okay...
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> thefatloverboy: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/34
[18:48] <thefatloverboy> cuz that one i got is not so good for me
[18:48] <thefatloverboy> thanks
[18:48] <slidinghorn> thefatloverboy:  why?
[18:48] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, if i use fluxbox, will i have to reinstall xchat again or will i be able to use this existing one
[18:48] <thefatloverboy> cuz is so old
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> saganbyte: you can use xchat in any DE
[18:49] <thefatloverboy> and i got not optiones
[18:49] <slidinghorn> thefatloverboy:  what functionality are you looking for in a newer version?  what problem do you have (specifically) with the current version
[18:49] <saganbyte> ActionParsnip, okay thanks
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> thefatloverboy: if its the latest for linux then thats it, the fact its old is moot. If skype dont want to update their crap more oftn then thats their issue as the protocol is proprietary
[18:49] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: you can use xchat for sure
[18:49] <saganbyte> ActionParsnip, actually i m only worried about getting the wireless running once fluxbox is installed
[18:49] <MaT-dg> How do I install the AAC encoder?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> saganbyte: you can use your usual network app in fluxbox if it is currently installed. I think you are confused what fluxbox is
[18:50] <nisstyre65> ActionParsnip: doesn't network-manager require gnome dependencies?
[18:50] <thefatloverboy> ok, i think i cant have a video call in this version
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> nisstyre65: sure but if they are installed then it will run in any DE
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> nisstyre65: just like you can run KDE apps in gnome
[18:51] <thefatloverboy> that ś what i think
[18:51] <nisstyre65> yeah, I thought he was getting rid of gnome all together
[18:51] <saganbyte> ActionParsnip, yes i feel the same.. a little confusion about it.. i m under the impression i ll have to setup wireless network (incl enable drivers etc) all over again
[18:51] <darkzay> Mat-dg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/AAC
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> saganbyte: no, you are just changing the desktop, the stuff under the hood is the same
[18:51] <saganbyte> ActionParsnip, okay...
[18:52] <brontosaurusrex> MaT-dg: nero has one for linux
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> nisstyre65: a cross-DE manager is wicd and won't pull in tonnes of deps if you use ANY DE, its sweet but doesn't currently support 3G
[18:52] <brontosaurusrex> MaT-dg: free
[18:52] <mattyb> HI
[18:52] <nisstyre65> ActionParsnip: yeah, that's what I told him to use : D
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> nisstyre65: wicd is awesome
[18:52] <aayush> faayush
[18:52] <saganbyte> SO I m going to install fluxbox now.. thanks for all the help, ActionParsnip , nisstyre65 :)
[18:52] <kenalex> have any of you guys ever logged into a windows vpn using ubuntu ?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> saganbyte: no worries dude
[18:52] <nisstyre65> kenalex: you mean pptp?
[18:52] <MaT-dg> darkzay: I have gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg installed but I still don't have the encoder
[18:52] <darkzay> yes kenalex
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> i've logged into a cisco vpn using ubuntu
[18:53] <nisstyre65> if you want to access a windows vpn (pptp) easiest way is to install network-manager's pptp plugin
[18:53] <aayush> i am using Lucid, i am unable to share my folder through nautilus, it shows this error message 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied... how to fix ii
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[18:53] <kenalex> can you guys link me the instructions on how to set it up
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> aayush: use: gksudo nautilus    then try again
[18:54] <kenalex> please :)
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | kenalex
[18:54] <noob7> can one login into a cisco vpn when one only have openVPN installed?
[18:54] <MaT-dg> brontosaurusrex: interresting, do I have to install the whole nero suite or can I install just the encoder?
[18:54] <kenalex> thanks
[18:54] <abhijit> hi
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> noob7: you can use openconnect  or vpnc
[18:55] <ankit> cya guys,thanks for solving the problem
[18:56] <willeb> anybody have a good tip on a program to download youtube video to .avi and .mp3?
[18:57] <galerien> Are you using ubuntu?
[18:57] <willeb> yes
[18:57] <abhijit> willeb, mobile media convertor
[18:57] <galerien> Sorry, just woke up (didn't see the chan name) : Go to /tmp
[18:57] <galerien> and there you can see the flash video you are watching, and then converti it
[18:57] <lukus> why might tab completion not be working on ubuntu server (for apt-get)?
[18:58] <IdleOne> Welcome back MetaBot
[18:58] <galerien> Hi all, I just need a link for ATI proprietary driver, I want the best way to install it...
[18:58] <abhijit> IdleOne, its ubuntu bot?
[18:58] <galerien> a link for a tutorial I mean ?
[18:58] <abhijit> !ati | galerien
[18:59] <galerien> ok, thanks
[18:59] <IdleOne> abhijit: yes, see #ubuntu-meta
[18:59] <abhijit> IdleOne, ok.
[18:59] <henkpoley> say grub only shows my Windows bootloader but not the wubi (mythbuntu 10.04) install, what do I need to do ?
[18:59] <henkpoley> ..on the bootloader command prompt
[18:59] <papa> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL?
[19:00] <galerien> papa : si, que quieres
[19:00] <papa> COMO ESTÁS? ES MI PRIMERA VEZ Y ANDO PERDDIDO
[19:00] <saganbyte> ActionParsnip, just one last question please... How do I switch window manager from the terminal?
[19:00] <saby> hi, i mounted a partition in /mnt, is there a way to view that partition in "Computer"
[19:00] <Hilikus> how can i see how much ram a system has?
[19:00] <galerien> !es | papa
[19:01] <saganbyte> Hilikus, free -m
[19:01] <papa> ESCRIBO ESO AQUÍ MISMO?
[19:01] <henkpoley> papa: try #ubuntu-es
[19:01] <Hilikus> saganbyte: thakns
[19:01] <xangua> papa: no mayúsculas
[19:01] <galerien> papa : solo "/join #ubuntu-es"
[19:02] <saganbyte> Hilikus, np :)
[19:02] <IceD^> hello
[19:02] <papa> bueno
[19:02] <IceD^> my wife is trying to setup pppoe on netbook (away from me, can't look) and all she got is following error in log:
[19:02] <saganbyte> nisstyre65, One last question pleae (ActionParsnip just left), how do i switch to another window manager from the terminal?
[19:02] <IceD^> SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/ppp0, iface: ppp0): no ifupdown configuration found.
[19:03] <saby> hi, i mounted a partition in /mnt, is there a way to view that partition in "Computer"
[19:03] <Hilikus> if i create a new virtual disk with vbox is that just creating an LVM partition?
[19:04] <nisstyre65> saganbyte: you have to log out and then choose fluxbox using GDM
[19:05] <nisstyre65> GDM is the login manager you use
[19:05] <papa> jjajaaa.... no hay nadie en español
[19:05] <abhijit> !en | papa
[19:06] <IceD^> any ideas?
[19:06] <fancybit> my laptop's vedio card is ATI x1600m，should I install a official vedio card driver?
[19:07] <logos_> Somebody has problems while extracting files with strange characteres from a rar file?
[19:07] <mhb> how to upgrad ubuntu 10.4.to 10.10
[19:07] <slidinghorn> !+1
[19:07] <llutz> mhb: ask at #ubuntu+1
[19:07] <slidinghorn> llutz:  thanks
[19:08] <Oer> IceD^, check with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[19:08] <opossum_oisif> hi, I have encrypt my home during the installation of ubuntu and I would like to know how do I decrypt it when I mount the partition with a livecd?
[19:08] <mhb> thanls
[19:08] <mhb> thanks
[19:09] <Joaz> Hi, I've got a problem with my ubuntu since upgraded to 10.04. Preferable when watching a video in mplayer, all USB devices cease to work. Sadly no syslog message. Any ideas how to debug this?
[19:09] <fancybit> I've play the warson but I quikly quit ... and my screen begins blinking...
[19:09] <fancybit> why?
[19:09] <nb72> Problem:  I have an ubuntu server setup with a shared NX400 Expson printer.  Ubuntu laptop and Windows 7 laptop both have the printer installed and working.  Except on the Windows 7 laptop it doesn't actually print from some programs
[19:09] <Oer> Joaz there are many howto's like this one > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/
[19:10] <nb72> Firefox works, Adobe PDF and notepad do not.
[19:10] <nb72> any ideas as to what might cause that?
[19:10] <nisstyre65> nb72: is this a windows problem? try ##windows
[19:10] <adalal> i know this isn't the amsn channel, but no one seems to be responding there for ages, I jus wanted to ask if anyone else had trouble logging on to msn servers with pidgin or amsn
[19:11] <nisstyre65> adalal: no problems here
[19:11] <nb72> I'm not sure if it's a windows problem or not.  I don't get any errors, just thought I'd check to see if maybe this is a cups problem that somebody has heard of before.
[19:11] <Joaz> Oer, wrong link? I don't have encrypted home dirs
[19:12] <Oer> nb72 not logical, if the error is on a windows pc
[19:12] <adalal> nisstyre65: any idea why i wouldn't be able to connect? it says it's unable to contact the server :S but all other services on the network are working fine
[19:12] <slidinghorn> Joaz:  it was meant for opossum_oisif
[19:12] <saby> i have a weird problem, when i try to login into windows, it corrupts the bootloader and i need to reinstall grub using the live cd
[19:12] <Joaz> kk
[19:12] <nb72> Thanks guys.  I'll try the windows channel.
[19:12] <Oer> Joaz, sorry, i meant opossum_oisif
[19:13] <nisstyre65> adalal: you could try doing 'netstat -a | grep amsn'
[19:13] <papa> thak you...good bye my friends  :)
[19:13] <adalal> nisstyre65: thanks
[19:13] <opossum_oisif> Oer, ok I haven't read :) thx
[19:13] <nisstyre65> adalal: that won't *fix* it but it might give you a clue
[19:13] <adalal> nisstyre65: yeah, i realised, didn't think of that before... thanks for the tip
[19:13] <stack> hi, with what is been replaced notify-send now in ubuntu?
[19:13] <stack> has been*
[19:14] <kenalex> yippe
[19:14]  * kenalex jumps up an down
[19:14] <kenalex> vpn connection up
[19:14] <nb72> Just for some more things to look at, if there were printing errors on the cups side of things would they get logged somewhere?
[19:14] <kenalex> yippe
[19:14] <FloodBot2> kenalex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14]  * kenalex jumps up and down
[19:14] <kenalex> vpn connection is up
[19:14] <some1> hey guys ,,, is it possible to install Internet Explorer on ubuntu 10.04 ??
[19:15] <kenalex> thanks guys
[19:15] <jaycount> some1, maybe with WINE but why
[19:15] <Oer> some1 i don really want to know, try wine ?
[19:15] <slidinghorn> some1:  there have been some success stories via wine...give it a shot
[19:15] <deca-prime> some1 i think if you install play on linux it's a supported package
[19:15] <some1> i need to install it
[19:15] <nisstyre65> nb72: there might be something under /var/log
[19:15] <kbmaniac> anybody got google gears working on 10.04 ?
[19:16] <nb72> nisstyre65, thanks I'll take a look
[19:16] <some1> because i need to go to a site that doesn't support anything but IE
[19:16] <slidinghorn> some1:  deca-prime POL is like a front end for wine :)
[19:16] <nisstyre65> /var/log/cups/error_log for me
[19:16] <slidinghorn> some1:  then you need to go to a different site ;)  if it's netflix -- there is no linux support at this time -- send a letter to them :)
[19:16] <some1> ok ,,, i'll try wine and get back
[19:16] <Nylos> Hello
[19:17] <saby> hi, i mounted a partition in /mnt, is there a way to view that partition in "Computer"
[19:17] <pil> hello everyone - I am studying the ubuntu pocket guide and I have a question - it says that "To allow GUI login as root, click System - Administration - Login - Window. Select the Security tab and put a check in the box marked - Allow Local System Administrator Login. Then logout and back in." But when I open the Login screen in system - administration there is no Allow Local System Administrator login.:( What gives?...!!!
[19:17] <nisstyre65> pil: what version of ubuntu is it based on?
[19:17] <slidinghorn> pil:  why do you want to login to a GUI as root...this is very dangerous
[19:18] <pil> slidinghorn: the latest which is downloadable from the ubuntu URL...
[19:18] <iceroot> pil: dont run the gui as root
[19:18] <bootstrap> Hello, are there any issues with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 and Ubuntu? I have always used Nvidia, I'm not sure about ATI.
[19:19] <Hilikus> i can't find any guides on installing virtualbox on LVM, is this not recommended or something?
[19:19] <llvllonk> Anyone know the command line to see my sound driver? and or how to update the driver for it?  Sound works when i reboot...but after a few hours it doesn't work....btw how do i adjust volume >.<
[19:19] <slidinghorn> pil:  that was nisstyre65 that asked the version.....my question (which is more important) is *why* you want to login to a GUI as root?
[19:19] <pil> iceroot, nissytyre65: I am not gonna do it of course but I just wanna finish the book without left any questions in my mind... thats why... :)
[19:20] <iceroot> pil: look at the gdm cofig, the rest is not supported here
[19:20] <nisstyre65> if you REALLY wanted to log in as root you could do it from the command line by running 'sudo startx' probably
[19:21] <pil> ok - thanks everyone...
[19:21] <pil> :)
[19:21] <slidinghorn> nisstyre65:  that won't work, and please don't try to tell people how to login to a GUI as root...it's not supported here as far as I'm aware
[19:21] <patholio> is there a way of choosing what OS you want to boot back into after you reboot, but you choose before you shutdown?
[19:21] <Nylos> Hello, when i run ubuntu without "save graphics mode" i get this -> "http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9558/screenelf.png" screen - what can i do?
[19:21] <nisstyre65> slidinghorn: I'm fairly sure it would work, and he already said he isn't going to do it
[19:21] <riyaz> how to run postgresql to create databases
[19:22] <llutz> nisstyre65: it will mess up permissions of some user-files most likely
[19:22] <nisstyre65> unless startx won't run as root
[19:22] <nisstyre65> llutz: yeah probably, which is why nobody does it
[19:22] <pil> slidinghorn: my point is to read the book and understand it without any questions - thats why I asked  :)
[19:23] <slidinghorn> !root | pil take a look here for more info
[19:23] <riyaz> anybody pls tell how to run postgresql to create databases????
[19:24] <iceroot> riyaz: #postgresql
[19:24] <pil> slidinghorn, ubottu: okay... thanks alot ... much appreciated.. :)
[19:24] <Oer> riyaz, read these manuals  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL and this page https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/postgresql.html
[19:26] <m_tadeu> how can I change the partition's code page?
[19:26] <coz_> m_tadeu,  you mean grub menu?
[19:27] <Cheguerz> Do errors in the log in ubuntu all need to be resolved to have a perfect system or is this a impossibility?
[19:27] <SimonP86> bt default where does Ubuntu look for it's libraries? in usr/lib, user/lib32 and user/lib64?
[19:27] <m_tadeu> I mean I have eveything in my partition using iso8859-1 and now I'm visualizing in utf8
[19:27] <coz_> Cheguerz,  I have never tried to resolve all of the errors
[19:28] <llutz> SimonP86: its defined in /etc/ld.so.conf(.d)
[19:28] <kenalex> i can even remote desktop to a windows machine over the vpn. wicked !!
[19:28] <coz_> Cheguerz,  are these major functionality errors?
[19:28] <Cheguerz> I expected that, linux is very hard to crumble because of errors
[19:28] <Cheguerz> No
[19:28] <Hilikus> what's the recommended FS to store virtualbox partitions?
[19:28] <LinuxGuy2009> How do I get networking going after installing the base system using the alternate CD so that I can build it up?
[19:29] <Cheguerz> Apps and different modules
[19:29] <denverdave> Installed 10.04 lts on a brand new 160 hd and when I get past the splash screen I get  black/white box's and system is lockedup I am running an nvida gt220 card using nouveau driver.. any ideas? my web searches are not yielding much
[19:29] <Zol> Anyone know how I can get a channel list from weechat?
[19:29] <coz_> Cheguerz,  some errors show up in the log  for "at the moment"  errors and not consistent ones
[19:29] <Cheguerz> I see
[19:29] <coz_> Cheguerz,  sometimes you would be hunting down "ghosts"  if you tried to remedy all of them
[19:29] <coz_> Cheguerz,  I dont think its a bad idea to try t hough
[19:30] <llutz> Hilikus there is no recommendation, use whatever you like and can hold those big files
[19:30] <Cheguerz> I agree
[19:30] <Hilikus> llutz: each VM is stored in 1 single huge file right?
[19:30] <coz_> Cheguerz,  I am having one problem that I will have to hunt down but it is a reocrruing issue
[19:30] <sandking> can someone tell me what are the differences between UNR and standard Ubuntu with gnome? i mean - is UNR only visually tweaked or is it really faster for netbooks?
[19:30] <wookiehangover> hey just wanted to see if anyone else was using quicksyngery for mac/linux screen sharing
[19:30] <bccar> how do i make the font bigger in this xchat
[19:30] <llutz> Hilikus: no, VMs are stored in a xml-file, the hdd-files are the huge one (vmdk)
[19:31] <coz_> bccar,   Settings  preferences
[19:31] <llutz> Hilikus: you should read vbox-documentation and better ask at #vbox
[19:31] <DYPAK_YPOD> How to save a "session" (or userstat) to hdd if I'm in Ubuntu livecd?
[19:31] <MaRk-I> bccar: settings/preferences/text box
[19:31] <ibrahim-kasem> tor stopped working suddenly !
[19:32] <DYPAK_YPOD> I just don't want to yuck up with netwrk each time
[19:32] <coz_> bccar,  you also have the options of setting time stamps   or sound notifications in the settings as well
[19:32] <coz_> bccar,  also logging
[19:33] <DYPAK_YPOD> ok, so...
[19:33] <denverdave> I used the live cd to install but when I try to reboot with get errors about disk unreadable i/o errors..
[19:33] <DYPAK_YPOD> how to save a session/userstat to hdd if I'm on a livecd?
[19:33] <rcs_comp2> what package would I install to get edubuntu games on ubuntu?  I don't want to get the whole desktop if I don't need it.
[19:33] <coz_> denverdave,   put the cd back in the drive... choose  "check cd"  instead of going into ubuntu live cd
[19:34] <Grujah> I've got a problem. I recently reinstalled Windows (I dual boot), and now I cannot access a separate, OS-less NTFS partition. It doesn't show in Nautilus at all, and in gparted it says its mounted on / (same as partition that I boot Ubuntu from).
[19:34] <maco> rcs_comp2: most of 'em should be in this kdeedu
[19:34] <coz_> denverdave,  if it s hows  errors  then redownload the live cd... do md5sum on the iso image  and burn it at 1x  speed if possible
[19:34] <bccar> im having trouble getting clone monitor to work, nividia geforce 8400m gt
[19:34] <denverdave> coz_ I am rebooting with it in.. getting the splash screen with dots
[19:34] <rcs_comp2> maco: great, thanks!
[19:34] <denverdave> now they are all red
[19:34] <DYPAK_YPOD> ...
[19:34] <coz_> denverdave,  dots?
[19:34] <almoxarife> I have what is suppose to be a 32bit laptop, yesterday I did a full re-install of ubuntu via wubi, seems I installed x86_64 version, and everything works fine, how could that happen???
[19:34] <coz_> denverdave,  i suggest redownloading the live cd or better yet.... download the minimal install cd
[19:35] <denverdave> yea.. the little dots under the word Ubuntu that go from white to red
[19:35] <coz_> denverdave,   oh those dots
[19:35] <coz_> denverdave,  I dont you booted into the live cd then
[19:35] <denverdave> ok this time... got an error about the installer having problems.. going to reinstall
[19:35] <DYPAK_YPOD> so how do I save a .2fs session to hdd if I'm on a livecd?
[19:35] <Cheguerz> Is it normal for a service to be running all the time with it's parameters e.g: path to bin "login details" after I quit said service. It runs as "nolaunchapp"
[19:35] <coz_> denverdave,  the live cd will ask for language first then the menu appears   that is where you choose to check the cd for errors
[19:36] <bccar> i can't get my transmission port open, i did the sudo ufw allow
[19:36] <denverdave> coz_ cool
[19:36] <Cheguerz> It's a potpourri VPN
[19:36] <DYPAK_YPOD> someone knowledgeable @ ubuntu livecd, please pm me
[19:36] <Cheguerz> Pptp
[19:36] <almoxarife> bccar: you behind a hardware firewall? a router?
[19:36] <denverdave> coz_ ok language set.. now timezone
[19:36] <Cheguerz> I mean but it's always running
[19:37] <DYPAK_YPOD> I need to save my net connection and other user stats somehow. How to do it?
[19:37] <bccar> no dont think so how do i check
[19:38] <bccar> ive only been using this for a week
[19:38] <coz_> DYPAK_YPOD,  you have me on this one ... I have no idea  sorry guy
[19:38] <DYPAK_YPOD> uuuugh
[19:38] <boboysdadda> can someone please help me? my computer won't boot. running 10.4 gnome.  had to boot off of thumbdrive. somthing about not being able to mount sdb1
[19:38] <coz_> DYPAK_YPOD,  that doesnt mean others dont know...stick around and ask again  in a bit
[19:39] <llutz> DYPAK_YPOD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[19:39] <denverdave> coz_ so far no way to check disk
[19:39] <denverdave> now at the install window
[19:39] <abhijit> DYPAK_YPOD, i once remember while using pupply linux. it asked whether to save setting on pen drive or not. i.e. live puppy.
[19:39] <LinuxGuy2009> During the alternate CD base install the DHCP configuration failed and skipped, how do I bring it back up? My cable was unplugged.
[19:39] <almoxarife> bccar: do you have a router between you and the modem/connection?
[19:39] <Grujah> I've got a problem. I recently reinstalled Windows (I dual boot), and now I cannot access a separate, OS-less NTFS partition. It doesn't show in Nautilus at all, and in gparted it says its mounted on / (same as partition that I boot Ubuntu from).
[19:39] <coz_> denverdave,  are you sure this is a Live cd disc?
[19:39] <newbiez> irc.plasa.com
[19:39] <bccar> no
[19:40] <Monkey_Dust> DYPAK_YPOD: try finger -l (yourname)
[19:40] <llutz> Grujah: pastebin output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "df -h" please
[19:40] <denverdave> coz_ got it from ubuntu.com from their desktop link
[19:40] <almoxarife> bccar: how are you connected to the internet?
[19:40] <bccar> dsl box
[19:40] <coz_> denverdave,   well when the live cd boots...first thing is language select  then a menu appears.. not timezone
[19:41] <thune3> Grujah: i suspect your /etc/fstab is problematic. allso pastebin that too please
[19:41] <almoxarife> bccar: the dsl box has built in firewall, maybe?
[19:41] <bccar> maybe
[19:41] <coz_> denverdave,  it is the menu after language select that you want
[19:42] <denverdave> coz_ after that it is the timezone set up.. did I get the wrong cd iso to burn?
[19:42] <almoxarife> bccar: can you access the web interface and insure the port you want opened is routed to your machine?
[19:42] <saby> i have a weird problem, when i try to login into windows, it corrupts the bootloader and i need to reinstall grub using the live cd
[19:42] <coz_> denverdave,  mm  let me check hold on
[19:42] <Grujah> thune3, http://pastebin.com/bWYkivnS
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> saby:  Could be a virus, or anti virus software 'restoreing' the bootloader it thinks is correct.
[19:42] <luw> hi friends!
[19:43] <luw> i have a question about runlevels
[19:43] <saby> Dr_Willis, nopes no virus, tried with a fresh install too
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> saby:  after it does that - does it  basically set it where it boots up the normal windows bootloader?
[19:43] <LinuxGuy2009> How do I autoconfigure DHCP on the command line so I can use my internet to install packages?
[19:43] <coz_> denverdave,   can I assume you are in the US?
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> saby:  there are also BIOS settings to restore  MBR's ive seen.
[19:43] <saby> Dr_Willis, nopes it just displays No Operating System
[19:43] <saby> Dr_Willis, i dont think so there are any in my laptop
[19:44] <llutz> Grujah: pastebin "/etc/fstab" and "sudo blkid" please too
[19:44] <luw> LinuxGuy2009: dhclient eth#
[19:44] <luw> where # is your interface
[19:44] <almoxarife> bccar: one of the easiest ways to see if you have the port open to at least thru the modem/router is to use one of the web firewall checkers, it will tell you what ports are open looking from the outside
[19:44] <denverdave> coz_ you are correct
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> saby:  that is weird.  sounds like the MBR is getting trashed.   You may want to double check teh bios. but i cant think of any other reason for it to be doing that. You may want to ask in #windows they may have some suggestions.
[19:44] <luw> try that
[19:44] <coz_> denverdave,  go here  http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ and download the correct  "Desktop CD"  x86 or 64 bit
[19:44] <coz_> denverdave,  you got the menu?
[19:45] <almoxarife> I have what is suppose to be a 32bit laptop, yesterday I did a full re-install of ubuntu via wubi, seems I installed x86_64 version, and everything works fine, how could that happen???
[19:45] <saby> Dr_Willis, alright will do that :)
[19:45] <rww> almoxarife: because you have a 64-bit laptop
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> almoxarife:  and your CPU is what exactly?
[19:45] <almoxarife> dual core toshiba l555
[19:46] <denverdave> coz_ I am d/ling the is for 64 bit desktop now
[19:46] <LinuxGuy2009> luw: worked thank you.
[19:46] <coz_> denverdave,   if  you redown load  here are the hashes   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes   just open terminal cd to location of iso image  run    md5sum  nameof.iso and compare to the hashes for the correct iso image
[19:46] <denverdave> coz_ and I am still on the current menu being asked for a normal user
[19:46] <hotdog> they call me hothog
[19:47] <Grujah> llutz, http://pastebin.com/ME2d063u sda3 is the problematic one
[19:47] <luw> hi hotdog
[19:47] <hotdog> how you doin
[19:47] <luw> good dawgggg
[19:47] <coz_> denverdave,  mmm .. well after you download and check the md5sum   put the disc into the player...reboot  choose language  and then choose  "check cd"  in the menu options
[19:47] <luw> so
[19:47] <uRock> !hardware > uRock
[19:47] <llutz> Grujah: sda2 should be your /, so correct your /etc/fstab
[19:47] <coz_> denverdave,  just burn the new iso at 1x if possible...fewer errors occure at slower speeds for burning
[19:47] <luw> does anybody know the command to edit where a demon starts?
[19:48] <luw> which runlevel?
[19:48] <luw> i cant rembmer
[19:48] <m_tadeu> how do I change the locale?
[19:48] <llutz> !runlevel
[19:48] <llutz> luw^ see ^
[19:48] <chrismeo1> can anybody help me with the command dd ?
[19:48] <denverdave> coz_ ok then let me try lower speeds
[19:48] <chrismeo1> i want to delete my usb storage
[19:49] <denverdave> coz_ will take a while to d/l on this system.. no worries tho.. thanks.. i will check what happens with the cd and let you know
[19:49] <coz_> denverdave,  no just lower speeds ."lowest"  speed :)  which should be 1x depending on which application you use
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> chrismeo1:  why not just reformat it..
[19:49] <luw> ubottu: i agree, i remember using a command that you can edit weather or not a demon turns on/off at a specific runlevel
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> chrismeo1:  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXXX  and let it go.. that will zero the hole drive.. USE WITH CAUTION.
[19:49] <Grujah> llutz, I just change /etc/fstab manually and .. restart?
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> chrismeo1:  you will then need to repartition/reformat it
[19:50] <luw> lol my badd
[19:50] <llutz> Grujah: yes
[19:50] <chrismeo1> lly good
[19:50] <denverdave> coz_ roger 1x burn speek
[19:50] <denverdave> speed
[19:50] <coz_> denverdave,  cool   remember  md5sum check with hashes...burn at 1x   then choose  "check cd" from live cd menu to be sure
[19:50] <SimonP86> how do I access the CD drive from terminal? cd <???> ?
[19:51] <kisplit> Does anyone know if the screen flickering will be fixed in Ubuntu 10.14? Anyone know a temporary fix?
[19:51] <abhijit> SimonP86, cd to /media
[19:51] <denverdave> coz_ got it.. and I will use the burner specified on that ubuntu.com page ok?
[19:51] <chrismeo1> i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/New\ Volume/zero bs=4096; is that good?
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> SimonP86:  if its mounted cd /media/SOMTHING
[19:51] <luw> bah just found it!
[19:51] <luw> chkconfig
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> chrismeo1:  No... note i used /dev/XXXXX
[19:51] <luw> found it right after i posted
[19:51] <coz_> denverdave,   cool
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> chrismeo1:  you dd a device.. not a mountpoint
[19:51] <luw> thank you llutz
[19:52] <coz_> denverdave,  I generally use  gnomebaker  but brasero should work  although I prefger gnomebaker
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> chrismeo1:  and be sure to unmount the thing befor you start dding to it.
[19:52] <denverdave> coz_ have to burn on windows
[19:52] <llvllonk> firefox have sound issues if you leave it on for too long huh?   I had to close firefox it to get the sound from   youtube to work again
[19:52] <chrismeo1> ah ok
[19:53] <Grujah> llutz, thanks, it works now :)
[19:53] <RustyFrag> Hey all
[19:53] <abhijit> hi
[19:53] <coz_> denverdave,  ah ok   do you have  nero?
[19:54] <chrismeo1> but after dding the usb storage i just need to reformat it? And the stuff on my computer won/t change?
[19:54] <denverdave> coz_  not on this system.. but I have poweriso and a couple of burners on my main systems HD
[19:54] <m_tadeu> I'm unable to see special characters in my partitions....how can I change this?
[19:55] <coz_> denverdave,  oh ok ... as long as they have at least a 3x burn  but again preferably 1x :)
[19:55] <denverdave> coz_ right.. I will check
[19:55] <denverdave> going to see how the install goes as it is progressing on the pc..
[19:56] <mrman208> hello everyone
[19:56] <IceD^> ububtu is "nice" - wife managed to create connection via pppoeconfig and networkmanager dropped eth0 (wasn't possible to connect to eth with it after this - no matter what) - was forced to explain how to do this via ifconfig and route
[19:56] <IceD^> question is - why pppoe is enabled in NM if it doesn't work?
[19:56] <IceD^> anybody test this stuff?
[19:58] <kotek> ubuntu - almost like a windows - is designed for idiots and lazy geeks
[19:58] <mrman208> kotek: Why do you say that?
[19:58] <abhijit> kotek, yah and thats why you are in this channel.
[19:58] <kotek> yes, i'm a lazy geek ;)
[19:59] <fearful> is there a way to view ext4 on windows xp if on seperate partiton?
[19:59] <abhijit> kotek, you forget to add the word before '...and lazy geeks'
[19:59] <m_tadeu> kotek: nice it suits someone, then :)
[19:59] <IceD^> fearful, good answer - no
[19:59] <Oer> fearful no, ext is possible
[19:59] <mrman208> fearful: Nope
[19:59] <Oer> * ext3
[19:59] <IceD^> ext2 is possible (with specific block size) via ifs driver
[20:00] <fearful> IceD^, ok, Oer mrman208 thanks just wanted to make sure
[20:00] <kotek> mhmm
[20:00] <mrman208> fearful: You're welcome
[20:00] <IceD^> ext2/ext3 is possible via some weird software (not ifs driver)
[20:00] <kotek> in my days there was something like a partition magic
[20:00] <IceD^> ext4 is possible if it's without extends (which is unlikely)
[20:00] <IceD^> so - proper solution - get rid of windows xp
[20:01] <mrman208> IceD^: Yup, basically.
[20:01] <fearful> IceD^, I actually don't have windows xp, wanted to see installing it but not anymore.
[20:01] <IceD^> :)
[20:01] <kotek> ext4 is also possible, but it can cause death
[20:02] <mrman208> is there anything for mac os x to install applications via command line (like apt-get in ubuntu. But not macports)
[20:02] <mrman208> or fink
[20:02] <IceD^> if you need some specific windows-only software - check wine and if it doesn't work - install windows in virtualbox
[20:02] <TrudeErMeg> Hi, guys!
[20:02] <mrman208> !hello | TrudeErMeg
[20:02] <Oer> kotek keep this channel family-friendly, thank you.
[20:02] <IceD^> mrman208, don't use apt-get in ubuntu
[20:02] <mrman208> IceD^: Why not?
[20:02] <IceD^> there is aptidude
[20:03] <guntbert> mrman208: how is that an ubuntu support question?
[20:03] <mrman208> IceD^: What is the difference
[20:03] <abhijit> !apt-get
[20:03] <augustRush> Hey there
[20:03] <IceD^> because of debian devs stupideness (no offense)
[20:03] <abhijit> !aptitude
[20:03] <mrman208> guntbert: Good point, sorry
[20:03] <augustRush> hey abhijit
[20:03] <augustRush> Kaise ho
[20:03] <mrman208> but what is the difference between them?
[20:03] <abhijit> hello augustRush . m fine
[20:03] <augustRush> hey i need help
[20:03] <m_tadeu> can someone pleaaaaaase tell me how to support special characters in my ext4 partitions? tey're all messed up
[20:03] <Stormsys> hello, i have a live usb disk for ubuntu which ive loaded, how can i now mount the computers harddrive becuase its not listed under fdisk -l?
[20:04] <abhijit> augustRush, hey ask then!
[20:04] <IceD^> they keep separate db of installed software - and if you'll install package + deps via apt-get - you'll have no way (well, deborphan or smth) to auto remove deps when pacakage is removed
[20:04] <augustRush> I have some movie with .avi extension  and it runs only in x3 player
[20:04] <augustRush> how can i get that
[20:04] <IceD^> x3 player?
[20:04] <abhijit> augustRush, what is x3 player?
[20:04] <mrman208> Would this be an Ubuntu question: Is there any way to install Ubuntu on a flash drive, have that bootable flash drive be made on the mac (Or Ubuntu LiveCD), and boot to the flash drive on the mac
[20:04] <Oer> Aptitude will be Removed From Ubuntu 10.10
[20:04] <augustRush> idk
[20:05] <IceD^> Oer, in favor of what?
[20:05] <mrman208> Oer: Exactly why I use apt-get ;)
[20:05] <abhijit> augustRush, and what is idk?
[20:05] <augustRush> i dont know
[20:05] <mrman208> IcdD^: apt-get :)
[20:05] <IceD^> mrman208, so you can
[20:05] <abhijit> !vlc | augustRush
[20:05] <IceD^> so you can't clean your orphaned packages
[20:05] <IceD^> niiiice way to go
[20:05] <abhijit> augustRush, use vlc
[20:05] <mrman208> IceD^: Isn't there something like apt-get autoremove?
[20:05] <IceD^> mplayer + win32codecs plays all video
[20:05] <augustRush> thanks ubottu
[20:06] <abhijit> augustRush, ubottu is bot.
[20:06] <Oer> mrman208, autoclean
[20:06] <IceD^> mrman208, don't know - there wasn't such feature in debian last time I checked (2 years ago)
[20:06] <mrman208> augustRush: ubottu is a bot, not a human.
[20:06] <[thor]> apt-get autoclean
[20:06] <mrman208> Would this be an Ubuntu question: Is there any way to install Ubuntu on a flash drive, have that bootable flash drive be made on the mac (Or Ubuntu LiveCD), and boot to the flash drive on the mac?
[20:06] <IceD^> and for ubuntu - that's my first and last experiment with it
[20:06] <[thor]> ahh,... too slow
[20:06] <IceD^> I was too lazy to install proper distro onto wife's laptop
[20:06] <augustRush> abhijit what is bot??
[20:06] <IceD^> and decided to go with ununtu
[20:07] <Ascavasaion> how do I check how much RAM my graphics card has without rebooting?
[20:07] <abhijit> augustRush, short for Robot!
[20:07] <Oer> [thor] not slow, your answer is a confirm ;-)
[20:07] <abhijit> !bot | augustRush
[20:07] <mrman208> !ubottu | augustRush
[20:07] <augustRush> Ok
[20:07] <IceD^> well - it installed without a problem and works fast
[20:07] <mrman208> !bot | augustRush
[20:07] <nb72> Hi all.  Update on my printing problem.  Apparently the problem was with samba.  The printer was shared (was trying to make it a public printer), but the Windows 7 machine didn't have write access to the temp directory for the printer.
[20:07] <mrman208> Would this be an Ubuntu question: Is there any way to install Ubuntu on a flash drive, have that bootable flash drive be made on the mac (Or Ubuntu LiveCD), and boot to the flash drive on the mac?
[20:07] <IceD^> but connecting to pppoe was pain in the ass
[20:07] <augustRush> x3 player
[20:07] <augustRush> ubottu x3 player
[20:07] <abhijit> !factoid | augustRush
[20:08] <nb72> So things like 'print a test page' worked fine, but printing any real document tried to spool to the file system and failed with no error message in windows.
[20:08] <IceD^> augustRush, install mplayer + win32codecs
[20:08] <abhijit> :(
[20:08] <augustRush> Hey Ice
[20:08] <abhijit> !tab > augustRush
[20:09] <oCean_> abhijit: you factoid lover :)
[20:09] <augustRush> you sure
[20:09] <abhijit> oCean_, :)
[20:09] <augustRush> Its highly encrypted .avi requires only x3 player
[20:09] <abhijit> augustRush, have you tried vlc?
[20:10] <augustRush> yeah
[20:10] <IceD^> encrypted avi?! :)
[20:10] <IceD^> lol
[20:10] <darkzay> hello all.  Is there any kdenlive experts here?
[20:10] <IceD^> augustRush, again - mplayer + win32codecs will play it
[20:10] <IceD^> not sure if win32codecs are present in ubuntu
[20:10] <augustRush> Ok Iced
[20:11] <hhassey> I am having this problem bonobo-activation-server (xxxxxxx-11986): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-5RSDoAibbB: Connection refused
[20:11] <augustRush> I will try
[20:11] <kotek> win64codecs are
[20:11] <hhassey> and then i am back to the login screen
[20:11] <IceD^> if not - go debain way - download them from mplayer site and unpack to /usr/smth (check docs)
[20:11] <augustRush> thank
[20:11] <hhassey> this problem seems to happen randomly
[20:11] <augustRush> thatks abhijit
[20:11] <abhijit> augustRush, welcome.
[20:11] <augustRush> thanks IceD
[20:11] <augustRush> where are you from
[20:11] <augustRush> abhijit
[20:11] <abhijit> augustRush, yes?
[20:12] <abhijit> augustRush, mumbai
[20:12] <mrman208> !gnumail
[20:12] <Stormsys> if trying to mount an SSD drive (which is formated ntfs clarified by sudo fdisk -l) fails, does this mean the ssd drive is malfunctioning?(it as already giving data read errors on load
[20:12] <augustRush> are you working somewhere?
[20:12] <abhijit> augustRush, come in pm
[20:12] <augustRush> how??
[20:12] <hhassey> any thoughts?
[20:12] <Monkey_Dust> n
[20:12] <Gnea> o
[20:13] <Amol> !webcam
[20:13] <abhijit> hello Amol sir
[20:15] <hhassey> I am having this problem bonobo-activation-server (xxxxxxx-11986): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-5RSDoAibbB: Connection refused
[20:15] <hhassey> and next thing I know i am back in the login screen
[20:19] <Ascavasaion> How do I check how much RAM my graphics card has without rebooting?
[20:19] <coz_> Ascavasaion,  hold on I believe I have the command for that
[20:19] <Amol> abhijit, Hey!
[20:20] <abhijit> Amol, :)
[20:20] <Amol> Just wanted to say HI
[20:20] <Beta_> Hi
[20:20] <abhijit> yah
[20:20] <Linfert> Hello.
[20:22] <brenlae> hi :)
[20:23] <brenlae> anybody hear have to use vesa drivers because they have an intel i8xx chipset?
[20:23] <brenlae> i do
[20:23] <brenlae> at least i can still play dvd/music/movies :)
[20:23] <coz_> Ascavasaion,   I cant remember off hand ...you might install hardinfo   but there is definitly a command let me keep searching my notes
[20:23] <Ascavasaion> coz_: lspci -v
[20:23] <Beta_> I can't play DVDs in Ubuntu :/
[20:23] <brenlae> :(
[20:23] <Ascavasaion> coz_: thanks man.  I got it... lspci -v :)
[20:23] <Beta_> Totem doesn't let me v.v
[20:24] <coz_> Ascavasaion,  yeah but there is a command to seek out and report just the vram  not other info
[20:24] <Beta_> Oh, anyone know why YouTube doesn't work in Totem for me?
[20:24] <brenlae> Beta_: get vlc and then google on how to get libdvdcss2 :)
[20:24] <Ascavasaion> thanks buddy, night all.
[20:24] <coz_> Ascavasaion,  ok here it is     nvclock -i | grep 'Amount:' | sed -e 's/.*: //'    but you need to have nvclock installed
[20:25] <Beta_> brenlae: I can get VLC via apt-get, correct?
[20:25] <Beta_> Nevermind, got it.
[20:26] <abhijit> Beta_, yes you can. type sudo apt-get install vlc.
[20:26] <johjoh> hello... i have a Microdia VideoCAM Messenger based on sonixb driver and it's not working outta the box... could i get some help plz?
[20:26] <brenlae> Beta_: yes, - you need libdvdread4 first to get libdvdcss2 - then you run a simple command (google it) and it will fetch libdvdcss2 for you :)
[20:27] <coz_> Beta_,    actually you just need to run this command      sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:27] <brenlae> yep :D
[20:27] <johjoh> cheese recognizes it, but gives me a white screen... it is listed under /dev/video0...
[20:27] <brenlae> coz_: thanks, i forgot the command :P
[20:28] <coz_> brenlae,  no problem  you might want to book mark the ubuntu restricted formats  url
[20:28] <brenlae> yeah :)
[20:28] <coz_> brenlae,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[20:28] <coz_> brenlae,   it should be under  "DVD"  on the right list... then "dvd" again
[20:29] <brenlae> thanks
[20:29] <brenlae> :)
[20:29] <Beta_> Does anyone here know Python well?
[20:29] <coz_> brenlae,   no problem ...always comes in hand when you do support :)
[20:29] <ilovefairuz> Beta_: join #python ?
[20:29] <Beta_> If so, what is the most complex program you made?
[20:29] <Beta_> Oh! Sorry.
[20:30] <brenlae> coz_: :)
[20:30] <Hilikus> hey guys
[20:30] <ilovefairuz> !hi | Hilikus
[20:30] <brenlae> Beta_: python is fun, i'm just learning as well :D
[20:31] <Hilikus> thsi is a really noob question but i'm trapped in my vbox. there were a bunch of msgs about binding and unbinding the mouse and i read everything. the current key to unbind is right click, but i do right click and nothing happens
[20:31] <Hilikus> how do i unbind it
[20:31] <uRock> Hilikus, it is right Ctrl, not right click
[20:32] <Hilikus> uRock, damn
[20:32] <Hilikus> that was stupid
[20:32] <Hilikus> sorry about that
[20:32] <Hilikus> thanks uRock
[20:32] <uRock> no problem, we all make mistakes
[20:32]  * brenlae is going for a smoke break :p
[20:33] <uRock> yuck
[20:33] <Beta_> iWin?
[20:33] <uRock> uLose?
[20:33] <uRock> =)
[20:34] <ilovefairuz> !ot | brenlae, Beta_, uRock
[20:37] <ipc> Who knows WinFF
[20:37] <uRock> !WinFF
[20:37] <Beta_> Windows FireFox?
[20:37] <ipc> lol
[20:37] <ipc> Convertor
[20:37] <ipc> Movies
[20:37] <Beta_> D'awww, I was close.
[20:37] <ipc> I want to make the movie quality better for iphone
[20:37] <abhijit> !info winff | ipc
[20:38] <slow-motion> n8
[20:38] <ipc> there is no winff channel
[20:38] <ipc> why not lol
[20:38] <uRock> ipc, feel free to start one
[20:39] <abhijit> uRock, is that You?
[20:39] <uRock> yes
[20:39] <abhijit> uRock, why you changed your nick?
[20:40] <uRock> what was my other one?
[20:40]  * ipc goes to the winff forums
[20:40] <abhijit> uRock, hmm. sorry it is not you then.
[20:40] <xxx74> hello
[20:40] <ilovefairuz> !hi | xxx74
[20:41] <chendry> do any of you use NFS to share home directories?  Where in the filesystem do you mount them on your NFS client machines?  I was thinking about just mounting in /home, but that hides any local home directories... what's the convention here?
[20:41] <Wavesonics> I'm trying to get mdadm to send emails, what email program does it use to send?
[20:41] <uRock> !nfs
[20:41] <erUSUL> Wavesonics: sendmail or mail i guess
[20:42] <ilovefairuz> Wavesonics: man mail
[20:42] <brontosaurusrex> ipc: tried handbrake?
[20:43] <uRock> abhijit, my old screename was running_rabbit07
[20:43] <ipc> Nope. is it a converter?
[20:43] <abhijit> uRock, ok.
[20:43] <brontosaurusrex> ipc: yes
[20:43] <ipc> Okay thanks, brb
[20:43] <abhijit> rww, ping
[20:44] <plunder> has anyone else had random usb disconnects in 10.04? having trouble solving this
[20:44] <henkpoley> on a PATA system, what would be the first partition in /dev ?
[20:44] <rww> abhijit: what
[20:44] <ilovefairuz> plunder: check cables/power source?
[20:44] <Wavesonics> mailutils: is that the package i need to setup a mail server? (sending)
[20:44] <abhijit> rww, when is next user day? after how much interval does user days organised?
[20:45] <kisplit> Hi, how can I figure out what driver my wireless card is using?
[20:45] <plunder> ilovefairuz: they seem to be ok, only started occuring when i fresh installed10.04
[20:46] <ilovefairuz> kisplit: lshw -C network
[20:46] <rww> abhijit: there've only been two so far, and they were six months apart, so presumably they happen once per cycle. I have no idea when the next one is.
[20:46] <kisplit> ilovefairuz: Thank you
[20:46] <abhijit> rww, ok. thanks. :)
[20:47] <plunder> ilovefairuz: i just found a libflashplayer.so error in my dmesg with the disconnect :O
[20:47] <ilovefairuz> plunder: pastebin but don't think they are related
[20:49] <plunder> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/wfMvz5mC
[20:51] <ilovefairuz> plunder: doesn't seem related (flashplayer crashes like a drunken sailor on my system) i think it could be a faulty mouse
[20:52] <pagan0ne> hey guys, hows it going... i need some help with a triple head setup on 10.04, i got all 3 working, correct resolutions, etc, but the wrong display is "primary" i want the center monitor to be the primary display (gdm login, top and bottom toolbars etc) however can not find the option where to set this... any ideas?
[20:52] <plunder> ilovefairuz: i messed up my system by fsck a mounted drive, do u think that could case the mouse to go?
[20:52] <plunder> ilovefairuz: *cause
[20:52] <pagan0ne> its using xinerama, no twinview (not an option) nvidia cards, with nvidia driver.
[20:53] <ilovefairuz> plunder: let's just say that's so very random
[20:53] <plunder> ilovefairuz: of what can happen?
[20:53] <ilovefairuz> plunder: yes
[20:53] <plunder> ilovefairuz: wonder what else i broke lol :/
[20:54] <plunder> ilovefairuz: ty for taking a look tho
[20:54] <pagan0ne> plunder,  you shouldnt be able to fry a mouse by fsck'ing a drive, that would just cause data corruption on the drive and would be solved by a reformat/install of the OS
[20:54] <plunder> pagan0ne: the mouse was fine before that happened, then i installed 10.04 and now the mouse drops reconnects randomly, not sure what to think
[20:54] <xxx74> hello
[20:54] <ilovefairuz> pagan0ne: not frying hardware but perhaps corrupting critical files
[20:54] <pagan0ne> plunder, is it a bluetooth mouse?
[20:55] <plunder> pagan0ne: would be such a coincidence if the mouse just happened to go while i was mid OS change, no its a wired USB
[20:55] <running_rabbit07> xxx74, if you have a question, then please ask it
[20:55] <pagan0ne> ilovefairuz, yes, but a reformat / reinstall should solve any system file issues
[20:55] <LinuxGArReT> Hey guys, how can I fix this?
[20:55] <abhijit> this?
[20:55] <pagan0ne> LinuxGArReT, using THAT
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> plunder: did you fsck before or after the install ?
[20:55] <LinuxGArReT> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python2.4-dbus
[20:55] <LinuxGArReT> I can't find that in the Package Manager
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> !enter | LinuxGArReT
[20:55] <plunder> pagan0ne,ilovefairuz: i did use 'Use entire disk' option, which I think formats everything and new kernel files, and I did the fsck before the installation of the fresh OS
[20:56] <LinuxGArReT> Yikes. Sorry
[20:56] <pagan0ne> plunder, than the fsck should not have caused your mouse issues
[20:56] <pagan0ne> sounds like its a driver issue
[20:56] <pagan0ne> check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[20:56] <ilovefairuz> !details | LinuxGArReT
[20:57] <ilovefairuz> plunder: test with livecd or possibly another distro ?
[20:57] <running_rabbit07> LinuxGArReT, what are you trying to install that is having depenancy issues?
[20:57] <scott__> does Ubuntu have a better IRC client than xchat?
[20:57] <plunder> paganOne: just loads glx modules, not sure what im looking for there
[20:58] <Wavesonics> will mdadm send me emails when it scans and everything is fine? Or only when it breaks?
[20:58] <running_rabbit07> scott__, there is xchat-gnome or chatzilla
[20:58] <Oer> !info python
[20:58] <LinuxGArReT> Ok. I have a problem installing Cedega onto my Ubuntu Version 10.4. If I want to install the .deb package, it says that I need the Python2.4-dbus Package. I downloaded the Python2.4-dbus package from Ubuntu's website, and then it says Error: Breaks existing package 'python-dbus' conflict: python2.4-dbus ( )
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> scott__: a dozen or so, search software center
[20:58] <plunder> ilovefairuz: yea i guess ill try the mouse on a windows to see if the mouse is ok
[20:58] <pagan0ne> plunder, look for the line... "Identifier        "mouse0""
[20:59] <scott__> @running_rabbit @ilovefairuz   ok will check that out
[20:59] <plunder> paganOne: theres no line like that
[20:59] <suprengr> scott__: tried xchat-gnome &severely regretted it... wnt staright back to xchat
[20:59] <pagan0ne> plunder, eh 10.04 took a lot out of xorg.conf so i have no idea where thats set at now lol
[20:59] <suprengr> *went
[20:59] <running_rabbit07> no need for bashing other versions
[20:59] <plunder> paganOne: yeah 10.04 messed me all up, i dunno how to get in grub anymore :|
[21:00] <scott__> @supreng: thats what I am using now....seems pretty bland
[21:00] <jefinc> is ubuntu server just a barebone desktop edition?
[21:00] <ChogyDan> LinuxGArReT: that is the wine thing, right?  Have you tried wine?
[21:00] <plunder> paganOne: i wanted to boot in to an older kernel to see if the problem persisted
[21:00] <ilovefairuz> !tab | plunder
[21:00] <pagan0ne> hey guys, hows it going... i need some help with a triple head setup on 10.04, i got all 3 working, correct resolutions, etc, but the wrong display is "primary" i want the center monitor to be the primary display (gdm login, top and bottom toolbars etc) however can not find the option where to set this... any ideas? im using xinerama on nvidia cards with nvidia drivers, twinview is not an option.
[21:00] <sarawara> what should i type to join the dutch ubuntu chat?
[21:00] <running_rabbit07> what is a triple head setup?
[21:00] <pagan0ne> running_rabbit07, 3 monitors
[21:00] <running_rabbit07> si
[21:01] <LinuxGArReT> ChogyDan, Yes I have tried Wine. I can't install or Run My Steam Application through wine. My Friend told me that I have to install Cedega to fix that.
[21:01] <suprengr> scott__: which one, xchat or xchat-gnome is bland?
[21:01] <running_rabbit07> xchat
[21:01] <abhijit> bye all !
[21:01] <abhijit> :)
[21:01] <ChogyDan> LinuxGArReT: that's odd.  You may need an updated Cedega.  Have you tried the appdb?
[21:01] <cyphase> is there a way to install ubuntu with the desktop installer without formatting the root filesystem?
[21:02] <running_rabbit07> cyphase, no
[21:02] <scott__> @suprengr   xchat-gnome
[21:02] <pagan0ne> i guess we dont have any xorg guru's in here lol
[21:02] <cyphase> running_rabbit07, how about the alternate installer?
[21:02] <running_rabbit07> not that I know of
[21:02] <LinuxGArReT> ChogyDan, that is the thing. I do have the latest Cedega. And I have no clue what is appdb... What is that?
[21:02] <suprengr> scott__: for what it's worth - xgat-gnome is more pleasing on netbook edition but I found it too restrictive on a full screen
[21:02] <ChogyDan> !appdb | LinuxGArReT
[21:03] <sarawara> wat typ ik in dit venster om bij de nederlandse chat te komen?
[21:03] <scott__> @suprengr   I see. Wish we had something like mirc
[21:03] <suprengr> *xgat-gnom =xchat-gnome [sorry]
[21:04] <ilovefairuz> !nl | sarawara
[21:04] <plunder> ilovefairuz,pagan0ne: the mouse went bad somehow, :| ty fellas
[21:04] <sarawara> :) thanks
[21:04] <pagan0ne> plunder, good luck, i doubt it was caused by the fsck, but it is an odd issue
[21:04] <pagan0ne> plunder, try it on another system... windows, another linux distro etc, see if its the mouse of an issue in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:05] <plunder> pagan0ne: i did, i tried it on windows, the mouse is bad, keeps reconnecting
[21:05] <plunder> pagan0ne: new mouse time :p
[21:05] <pagan0ne> plunder, yeah that sounds like the usb controller interface is fried....
[21:06] <plunder> pagan0ne: as long as thats the one in the mouse im happy haha
[21:06] <pagan0ne> plunder, i doubt its in the computer, most likely its in the mouse if the mouse has issues with other systems as well
[21:06] <pagan0ne> lol
[21:07] <pagan0ne> plunder, and the computer is able to recognize other usb devices on the port(s) in question
[21:07] <LinuxGArReT> ChogyDan, might be a stupid question. I've looked at the website, and it showed that Steam is supported... but it's not working for me... It growls something about a .dll file that cant be found... but I know it works since it works perfect on Windows
[21:07] <suprengr> scott__:  at the start of this [when he tought erroneously that I was knocking other s/w running_rabbit07 mentioned chatzilla - I've no experience with that one - why not try that if xc-gnomeisn't good for you
[21:07] <michiellus> for some reason when i run a .ica or .rdp file from my desktop and choose the program to open it with it doesnt remember the setting for the file type even while its marked
[21:07] <scott__> @suprengr  Yes I will take a look at that.
[21:08] <ChogyDan> LinuxGArReT: sometimes that website has additional instructions, like where to get that dll
[21:08] <Wormfall> Hi All, I am having trouble with my installation of Ubuntu 10.04 on my toshiba a70.. can someone help me
[21:08] <io> !ask | Wormfall
[21:08] <Wormfall> Everytime I start my computer I get to the user select screen and my computer automatically hibernates..
[21:08] <pagan0ne> ok, well if i cant get xinerama help here, any ideas where? #nvidia is dead, and its not really a nvidia issue, #xorg wont let anyone talk.....
[21:08] <ChogyDan> LinuxGArReT: but you should ask in #winehq.  Steam is pretty popular, Im sure someone knows the issue
[21:09] <LinuxGArReT> ChogyDan, Thank you. Will try that now
[21:09] <Wormfall> When i click the lid button, it turns back on; however, there is now image on the screen.. really frustrating.. reinstalled three times
[21:09] <michiellus> for some reason when i run a .ica or .rdp file from my desktop and choose the program to open it with it doesnt remember the setting for the file type even while its marked i just did a fresh install
[21:10] <DocPlatypus> why would udisks-daemon suddenly want to eat up over a gig of virtual memory and 800+M resident?
[21:11] <Wormfall> I searched online and could not locate the exact problem, first time working with Unix
[21:11] <running_rabbit07> !ask | dev/null Why not just tell people to ask there question instead off attacking them with ubottu?
[21:12] <capon> can somebody help me? how do I burn an iso file to usb using ubuntu? thanks
[21:12] <pagan0ne> roflmao
[21:12] <ilovefairuz> running_rabbit07: this is not an attack
[21:12] <thune3> michiellus: i'm not 100% sure what you are asking, but you can right click on an icon, choose properties, tab open with, and select default or add program.
[21:12] <ilovefairuz> io: i think !details is a lot easier to understand
[21:13] <andyn> !unetbootin | capon
[21:13] <DocPlatypus>  1909 root      20   0 1029m 736m 1232 D    0 74.1   0:02.10 udisks-daemon      <--- I am not making this up. why would this happen and what's the first step in fixing it?
[21:13] <henkpoley> capon: you only "burn" to optical media. but.. try something with unetbootin, there ought to be GUI tools around that
[21:13] <running_rabbit07> capon, to mave an ISO to a thumb drive, just drg and drop it
[21:13] <azlon> i am creating a pxe server. do i have to have this ubuntu (PXE) machine be the DHCP host? can i somehow configure a standard SOHO router to forward PXE requests to this machine?
[21:13] <lol> hi
[21:13] <io> ilovefairuz: Then use it.
[21:13] <ilovefairuz> io: I actually do
[21:14] <Uhmm> hi all.
[21:14] <ilovefairuz> capon: what are you trying to accomplish ?
[21:14] <Uhmm> i have a problem about my 10.4 ubuntu , on my toshiba qosmio x505-q870
[21:14] <Wormfall> Has anyone ever encountered my problem?
[21:14] <Wormfall> Everytime I start my computer I get to the user select screen and my computer automatically hibernates..
[21:14] <Uhmm> i can not connect wireless network :/
[21:14] <henkpoley> DocPlatypus: Try here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=udisks-daemon (there are multiple with high CPU and crashes there)
[21:14] <ilovefairuz> !details | Uhmm, all one line
[21:14] <Uhmm> :)
[21:15] <running_rabbit07> azlon, the server does have to have DHPC, if you turn off DHCP in your router and allow the server to do it, then your scripts will run better
[21:15] <henkpoley> Wormfall: do you "start" from hibernation ?
[21:15] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:15] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: do you see a list of wireless networks when you right click the network icon? what happens when you click on a wireless network?
[21:15] <sigmab3ta> does anyone else's lucid install take forever to login after a reboot?
[21:16] <sigmab3ta> the boot itself is fine but the login takes like almost an extra minute and a half
[21:16] <DocPlatypus> henkpoley: what happens if I just "sudo kill -9 1909"? not like it is even responding to that, mind you
[21:16] <sigmab3ta> and i'm on a core 2 duo with 4GB ram so it's not that...
[21:16] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: do you see any other networks or no networks at all?
[21:16] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz no...sometimes.. other networks shown.. except mine.
[21:16] <Uhmm> no , just my wireless network.
[21:16] <running_rabbit07> Uhmm, is your router set to not broadcast the SSID?
[21:16] <Wormfall> henkpoley: No i start normally.. off of a fresh installation. It shouldn't start from hibernation. I can boot the demo off of the live cd but not through the installation file
[21:16] <Uhmm> i ll check 1 min.
[21:16] <running_rabbit07> aka hidden network?
[21:16] <azlon> running_rabbit07: ok, so when i disable DHCP on the SOHO router, i will make this machine the DHCP server. I still need the SOHO router for wifi. this will create a new network for all wifi devices, correct?
[21:17] <running_rabbit07> azlon, you will have to set the IPs on the wireless machines statically
[21:19] <Uhmm> running_rabbit07 it should be set by broadcast ssid?
[21:19] <azlon> running_rabbit07: hrmm... ok, so even if i tell the wifi router that this machine is the gateway, it wont dynamically assign the IP addresses? what i am getting at is that i don't care about statically assigning wired devices an IP address (already doing so right now), but i do want wifi devices to dynamically get IP addresses, any way to do this?
[21:20] <henkpoley> Wormfall: are you able to install SSH from the console and login with another system to watch the dmesh during your desktop login ?
[21:20] <henkpoley> `dmesg` even
[21:20] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..
[21:21] <Wormfall> henkpoly: Nom this is my first time ever working with unix and I don't even know how I would go about doing what you suggested
[21:21] <romulobr> hi, i installed ubuntu 10.4 64 bit and i' m very happy with everything except for flash performance. Is there any way to make flash to run any better? would it perform better if i had made an 32 bit install? ubuntu page says I shouldn' t use 64 bit for a desktop, but I have 4GB of ram and i want to upgrade to 8GB very soon, a 32 bit system would work with that ammount of ram?
[21:21] <henkpoley> Wormfall: just checking :-P
[21:22] <Wormfall> henkpoley: no problem, I have a toshiba a70 that I am installing on and appearently its kind of hard to install ubuntu on them.. not to sure though.. frustrating none-the less.. any suggestions?\
[21:22] <rww> romulobr: in order: not really; no; ignore the download page, it's wrong; yes, 32-bit will install a PAE kernel if the regular one wouldn't address your RAM fully
[21:23] <henkpoley> Wormfall: is there a 'safe' desktop you can login to? usually Ubuntu goes into gnome, but you can chose another one before you log in.
[21:23] <st__> my system wants 232 MB of updates, is it normal?
[21:23] <rww> st__: yes
[21:23] <henkpoley> st__: yes
[21:23] <Wormfall> Henkpoley: I am running dual boot with windows xp
[21:23] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:23] <romulobr> thanks rww
[21:23] <jessica56> hi all.. new to linux, wondering... if there is a way to create a bootable usb, within ubuntu? maybe an app? Also Im using chrome, and my webpages are being redirected constantly.. any solution? Id appreciate any help, on these issues
[21:24] <henkpoley> Wormfall: I mean, start ubuntu, then when you need to enter your username, first click around to see if you can chose another desktop.
[21:24] <azlon> is it difficult to setup multiple OS's using PXE? for example, i want to be able to choose between a windows install and an Ubuntu install. i have read plenty on how to install Ubuntu over PXE, but nothing about being able to choose between the two
[21:24] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:24] <hiexpo> trying to do a su root and am getting authenication failure
[21:24] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can't I tried to click on something and within 3 seconds the computer goes to hibernation mode
[21:24] <panzi> my sister has a 1st gen asus netbook and cant boot the netbook from usb to install netbook ubuntu. when she chooses the usb device it still boots the installed os (which is unusable: jollycloud)
[21:25] <Novalok> Any ubuntu pros got a minute, im ususally pretty good with *nix but im stumped..
[21:25] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can however, boot into recovery mode
[21:25] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:25] <panzi> has anyone any idea why that might be?
[21:25] <azlon> panzi: i have an Asus EEE box nettop and had a similar issue.
[21:25] <scott__> what network card do you have ?
[21:25] <rww> hiexpo: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password by default, and we don't support having one set, and "su root" asks for one. You possibly want "sudo -i"
[21:25] <henkpoley> Wormfall: what do you mean with 'hibernation mode' ? Please describe, so I can be sure we are on one line :P
[21:25] <panzi> azlon: how did you resolve it?
[21:26] <Novalok> panzi possibly a bios setting?
[21:26] <hiexpo> rww ok thought so but want to verify
[21:26] <panzi> Novalok: she chooses the usb device in the bios to boot from! still the installed OS is booted
[21:26] <Uhmm> henkpoley ; i can not connect my wireless network , my os is 10.4 , i can with my windows without any prolem :/
[21:26] <jessica56> hi all.. new to linux, wondering... if there is a way to create a bootable usb, within ubuntu? maybe an app? Also Im using chrome, and my webpages are being redirected constantly.. any solution? Id appreciate any help, on these issues
[21:27] <azlon> panzi: it ended up being a problem with my thumb drive. I was using a sandisc piece of crap that had a CD partition and a drive partition. the EEE box saw the CD partition as a usb removable device (thumb drive) and the thumb drive partition as a hdd. make sure you set the priorities in the HDD section so that the thumbdrive is above the HDD
[21:27] <Novalok> WUSB100v2 anyone know how to get it working
[21:28] <henkpoley> Wormfall: I know what 'hibernation' means, it might just be that you are slightly mistaken and it's crashing or something
[21:28] <Uhmm> henkpoley ; i can not connect my wireless network , my os is 10.4 , i can with my windows without any prolem :/
[21:28] <Wormfall> henkpoley: The computer starts and when I get to the select the user.. I lose ability to control the mouse and the computer goes to sleep/hibernates and I can see that by the orange at the front of the laptop
[21:29] <panzi> azlon: hm, I'm trying another usb stick then
[21:29] <Wormfall> henkpoley: and when I hold down the lid close button and let it go.. the computer does start back up, and my power light goes blue and I can hear the fan and hard drive wokring i just dont get an image on the screen
[21:29] <azlon> panzi: if that doesnt work i dont know, sorry
[21:29] <Novalok> Aynone know how to get the WUSB100v2 to work properly under ubuntu LTS
[21:29] <panzi> hmm, my sister just says she already has installed the current (unusable) OS using this very usb stick :/
[21:30] <muelli> !details | Novalok
[21:30] <panzi> thanks anyway
[21:30] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:31] <hiexpo> Novalok,  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/159738-ubuntu-9-10-wusb100v2-solved.html
[21:31] <muelli> Uhmm: hm. maybe it sends on channel 13. Do you have any chance to check which channel your wireless is on?
[21:31] <Uhmm> yes it is.
[21:31] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: yes set it to broadcast ssid
[21:32] <henkpoley> Wormfall: as a quick hack you can try the options described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions (search for "acpi")
[21:32] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz ok... i am trying. 2min.
[21:32] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..
[21:32] <UslessMass> I'm having an issue with permissions on my one account many my folders and files on my account are not assigned to me and it would take a long time to individual switch them over, can someone help me fix the permissions in a file so the account owner has complete access to all his files?
[21:32] <henkpoley> Wormfall: for example first disable ACPI (it won't hibernate at all then), update everything and reboot with acpi enabled again
[21:32] <scott__> Uhmm: Did it used to work with 9.04 ?
[21:32] <Novalok> Im having a problem with my Linksys Wireless usb adapter(WUSB100v2), i've attempted many fixes including ndiswrapper, im running 10.04. Ubuntu can see my USB drive and identify it as linksys wireless usb when i run lsusb, Im pretty much lost.
[21:32] <MTMz> This is retarded
[21:32] <ilovefairuz> UslessMass: sudo chown user filename
[21:32] <denverdave> UslessMass what are the permissions of a file?
[21:33] <MTMz> Anyone know a good Iphone converter that works with ubuntu?
[21:33] <denverdave> iphone and good in same sentence? lol j/k
[21:33] <ohad> hello
[21:34] <UslessMass> All of the files have messed up permissions they are either assigned to root or my other account is there a way I can change the permissions of every file in a home directory to a certain user??
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> !unetbootin | jessica56
[21:34] <chals2> #kubuntu
[21:34] <denverdave> UslessMass what ilovefairuz
[21:34] <denverdave> said
[21:34] <st__> UslessMass, use sudo and chmod
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: what do you your pages are being redirected ?
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> !hi | ohad
[21:35] <UslessMass> st_ and if I set that to the users home directory it will change every permission inclosed in the file?
[21:35] <chals2> #kubuntu-devel channel
[21:35] <visof> hello
[21:35] <denverdave> UslessMass sudo chown -R newusername .
[21:35] <Novalok> Im having a problem with my Linksys Wireless usb adapter(WUSB100v2), i've attempted many fixes including ndiswrapper, im running 10.04. Ubuntu can see my USB drive and identify it as linksys wireless usb when i run lsusb, Im pretty much lost.
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> UslessMass: sudo chown -R username:username /home/username
[21:35] <visof> i installed skype but i can't hear or speak
[21:36] <visof> there is no sound in the program
[21:36] <ilovefairuz> !sound | visof
[21:36] <visof> what should i do
[21:36] <UslessMass> Thanks :D
[21:36] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..
[21:37] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz , i did... it's SSID now... i mean hidden now.
[21:37] <chals2> hi, if i upgrade to kubuntu 10.04 the kernel will upgrade too?
[21:37] <henkpoley> Wormfall: you think you can figure that out ?
[21:37] <UslessMass> st__ it keeps telling me username not found
[21:38] <ohad> My drive has two partitions (1-ubuntu 2-media). I tried creating a shortcut to a folder on the second partition, and I succeeded. but it only works if I mount the partition first. Is there a way for the shortcut to auto-mount that partition? (because if I need to go to "computer" and then select the partition, I can already search for the folder, and that way the shortcut is useless...)
[21:38] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: it should NOT be hidden, take a screenshot
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> ohad, put the 2nd drive in your fstab so it mounts at boot (1 option anyways) good luck
[21:38] <red2kic> ohad: Write a script that will mount the partition and generate a shortcut link?
[21:39] <ilovefairuz> ohad: or set the partition to automount at boot
[21:39] <ilovefairuz> ohad: /etc/fstab
[21:40] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..any ideas?
[21:40] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | denverdave
[21:40] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I am trying to do that but can not seem to follow it..
[21:41] <jessica56> redirected to a site call videocop
[21:41] <mustafa> hi. i'm reading this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioZanchetta/Old/AcerAspire5738 what is bluetooth HW button? i have no idea about it
[21:41] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: does this happen on ubuntu?
[21:41] <jessica56> yes
[21:41] <jessica56> 10.4
[21:41] <jessica56> using Chrom, as well as firefx
[21:41] <ohad> hi again
[21:41] <henkpoley> Wormfall: when boot, does it show something like "press ESC to start grub" ?
[21:41] <Novalok> Im having a problem with my Linksys Wireless usb adapter(WUSB100v2), i've attempted many fixes including ndiswrapper, im running 10.04. Ubuntu can see my USB drive and identify it as linksys wireless usb when i run lsusb, Im pretty much lost.
[21:42] <henkpoley> Wormfall: or does it just show a list with windows & ubuntu ?
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: someone probably hijacked your router or your ISP DNS server
[21:42] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can make it boot into grub 1 sec
[21:42] <jessica56> what should I do?
[21:42] <henkpoley> Wormfall: at least select ubuntu from the list, then press 'e' to edit the boot options
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> mustafa: not all laptops have it, some do, some don't
[21:42] <ubunt1> Hi. I created a panel on Ubuntu and it is invisible. I was just exploring, so now I want to delete the panel. The right area of my screen is occupied by a supposedly invisible panel, so when I expand a window, it fills the screen but that space keeps there. When I right click it, I get the dialog I would get if I simply right clicked my desktop. How can I delete this panel and reclaim the lost screen space?
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> mustafa: should be next to the wireless button
[21:43] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I am in the GNU Grub menu..
[21:43] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: call your internet service provider
[21:43] <jessica56> I cant fix?
[21:43] <henkpoley> Wormfall: use the up down keys to go to ubuntu press e
[21:43] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz any command in terminal to show my wireless network adapter?
[21:43] <Wormfall> henkpoley: alright give me one second
[21:43] <henkpoley> Wormfall: then go to the line that starts with "/boot/vmlinuz-" and press e
[21:43] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: you can try resetting the router, but you'll have to contact the customer support to get the correct settings
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> Uhmm, "lspci | grep -i network" should work
[21:44] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: lshw -C network
[21:44] <gabriel> Hi, I have a little problem, I Installed ssh in my ubuntu 0.4 machine and when I try to ssh to a windows xp I have on my network I get: cannot connect to host <hostname> port 22, connection refused
[21:44] <jessica56> Ok.
[21:44] <Uhmm> ok i ll check.
[21:44] <gabriel> sorry, ubuntu 10.4
[21:44] <jessica56> Oh I dont need to install Ubuntu.. I just want to burn an iso imaGE ...
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> gabriel: is there's an SSH server running on the windows machine?
[21:45] <henkpoley> Wormfall: then add "noacpi" (no quotes) somewhere in there, at the end is fine I believe. Hit enter, and press b to boot with these options
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: the second link has instructions for that
[21:45] <gabriel> Ok, how do I install an ssh server on windows? Im new to this
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> gabriel: ask in ##windows
[21:45] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz , ZykoticK9 yeah i have installed the driver of wireless , it s realtek
[21:45] <gabriel> ilovefairuz> ok, thanks for the help
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: lower the channel
[21:46] <Uhmm> what?
[21:46] <thune3> jessica56: someone here a week ago had some java malware causing redirections on chrome/firefox in ubuntu, you might try clearing your history/browsing data.
[21:46] <suprengr> ohad: example of fstab entry: UUID=12f3891b-abcd-4268-8cce-be737fdbb8e7 /media/ARCHIVE  ext4	defaults	0	0     is getting hold of the UUID a prob -  use gparted?
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: didn't you mention it was on channel 12? in router settings, choose a lower one
[21:47] <ubunt1> Can someone help me? I have a problem with my panels.
[21:47] <Uhmm> no it was not me :)
[21:47] <jessica56> ok
[21:47] <Uhmm> SSID activated.
[21:47] <Uhmm> everything is ok.
[21:47] <ilovefairuz> !details | ubunt 1
[21:47] <MTMz> I think WinFF is crap
[21:47] <Uhmm> still it doesn't wshow up my network name.. in wireless list
[21:47] <ubunt1> ilovefairuz: I did give full details. Nobody answered me...
[21:47] <ubunt1> ilovefairuz: "Hi. I created a panel on Ubuntu and it is invisible. I was just exploring, so now I want to delete the panel. The right area of my screen is occupied by a supposedly invisible panel, so when I expand a window, it fills the screen but that space keeps there. When I right click it, I get the dialog I would get if I simply right clicked my desktop. How can I delete this panel and reclaim the lost screen space?"
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> MTMz, then don't use it.  please refrain from such statements in this channel.
[21:48] <MTMz> ball wash
[21:48] <MTMz> stupid fuck
[21:48] <Sia-> with wget -r --no-parent can i download website completely, but if has a redirection code to redirect the index.html dowsn't work, any idea?
[21:48] <Uhmm> :/
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> !language > MTMz
[21:49] <MTMz> lol
[21:50] <ubunt1> Is there a way to see  a list of my panels so I can delete one I can't right click?
[21:50] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..any ideas?
[21:50] <ubunt1> Argh.
[21:51] <gabriel> Whats the difference between sharing files over a network and ssh?
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, see if you can move your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a different name, then see if you can boot using the opensource driver again.
[21:51] <imaginativeone> Would someone help me to fix my system?
[21:51] <red2kic> gabriel: ssh are not designed for sharing files. It allows you to run commands on remote computer.
[21:51] <imaginativeone> It hangs
[21:52] <imaginativeone> Indefinitely
[21:52] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok le me try that.. brb
[21:52] <gabriel> then what is the most secured way to share files over a network?
[21:52] <red2kic> gabriel: Oh and you could share files too, I suppose. I forget about "Connect To Server" option.
[21:52] <panzi> are there ubuntu images you can "install" on a netbook per dd?
[21:52] <Preludelinux> ssh using scp works great for file transfers plus there encrypted
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> gabriel, you can actually use ssh to share file!
[21:52] <Wormfall> henkley: i selected the kernel and put noacpi nolapci and still nothing
[21:52] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: screenshot the router settings page
[21:53] <Wormfall> after the quiet splash line
[21:53] <yeremey> hello all
[21:53] <imaginativeone> I already removed the CMOS battery and put it back
[21:53] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 um I do not have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[21:53] <katoen> gabriel: /n
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> gabriel, for Gnome clients - Places / connect to Server / select SSH and enter the details - easier then Samba/NFS really
[21:53] <gabriel> thats what I want to do, but when I try to ssh to my windows xp machine it says that port 22 refused to connect
[21:53] <katoen> gabriel: nevermind that :P
[21:53] <brontosaurusrex> ZykoticK9: yes, but transparent work seems to be only possible with ubuntu to ubuntu
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, then you're still using opensource driver then
[21:53] <Preludelinux> windows dont have an ssh server running on it ....
[21:53] <katoen> one could run sshd in cygwin
[21:54] <Preludelinux> yeah thats possible
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, you could try "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart to see if the proprietary driver would work (oppose of removing xorg.conf)
[21:54] <whyme> only one computer needs the server, so you could install the server in linux and only use client in Windows
[21:54] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 roger that trying now
[21:54] <Changey> dit u allow 22 tcp on wndows machine?
[21:54] <gabriel> I would like to share files over the network but with a password for more security
[21:54] <ilovefairuz> !hi | yeremey
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> brontosaurusrex, sorry i don't understand your statement really?
[21:55] <manhunter> hi
[21:55] <squarebracket> so i upgraded from 9.10, how can i get that social bar thingy?
[21:55] <brontosaurusrex> ZykoticK9: well try to watch a film over ssh on mac (server is ubuntu)
[21:55] <sheepz> why is it that there's a UUID field in fstab?
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  sshing TO a windows machine? You installed a ssh server?
[21:55] <switch10_> squarebracket: sudo apt-get install gwibber
[21:56] <ilovefairuz> Preludelinux: katoen: gabriel: windows DOES have native ssh servers, please ask in ##windows for guidance
[21:56] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 cant find nvidi-config just did a find from /
[21:56] <gabriel> Dr_Willis> thats the part I dont understand
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> brontosaurusrex, ummm, portability of SSH may be an issue - but that's the other OS's fault!  ssh is open source, they could build proper support if they wanted too!
[21:56] <brontosaurusrex> ZykoticK9: yes thats true of course
[21:56] <sheepz> there's ssh for cygwin :P
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  what part? if you are sshing to an OS. it needs a ssh server.. now what you are going to DO once you ssh intop a windowes box.. ive no idea.
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, if you typed "nvidia-xconfig" and it wasn't there, then you don't have to propritary drivers installed.
[21:56] <squarebracket> is 10.04 using usplash or something else?
[21:56] <gabriel> I would like to share files on the network but with password protection
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> squarebracket:  its using Plymouth
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  samba and the windows share system can do that
[21:57] <sheepz> is it safe to remove this field from /etc/fstab UUID=ntfs /media/sda1 ntfs-3g users 0 0
[21:57] <gabriel> How do I password protect with samba?
[21:57] <denverdave> gabriel run smbpasswd as user or as root to set a password for a user
[21:57] <henkpoley> Wormfall: I believe it's "noacpi nolapic" (different order acpi <- and -> apic)
[21:57] <brontosaurusrex> gabriel: make linux box the server and win boxes the clients, easy way to access is using filezilla client on windows for example, or that scp thingy
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  check the windows docs/help for 'shares'   if you want a share thats protecxted on a windows machine.
[21:58] <squarebracket> Dr_Willis, is there any sort of config i can edit?
[21:58] <ilovefairuz> sheepz: that will make the partition not mounted at boot, you'll have to mount it manually after you log in
[21:58] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 installing proprietary nvidia driver now
[21:58] <sheepz> ilovefairuz: ok, thought so
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> squarebracket:  its a pain to alter plymouth.
[21:58] <brontosaurusrex> gabriel: talking about ssh, or setup samba if you need better transparency from win side
[21:58] <sheepz> ilovefairuz: but if I create fstab entry do I need to include an UUID?
[21:58] <Wormfall> henkpoley: after i type that in after the quiet splash what should I press to save the file
[21:59] <erik14213us> hi all
[21:59] <frxstrem> is Ubuntu (and other Linux distros) backwards-compatible when it comes to software, so that I can use a program designed for Linux 15 years ago in Ubuntu 10.4? (theoretically speaking)
[21:59] <whyme> sheepz: no, you don't.
[21:59] <Wormfall> i see press ctrl-x to boot, but this doens't save it
[21:59] <squarebracket> Dr_Willis, no simple config file or anything? i'm using ubuntu-studio, and something seems to be off with the resolution it picks (or something)
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> sheenobu, you "should" but the old /dev/sdX# will still work
[21:59] <henkpoley> Wormfall: hit enter, then press 'b' when you are at the list again
[21:59] <gabriel> ok, Thanks a lot for the help, Thanks everyone that helped me
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> sheepz: you don't have to but it's more fault tolerant
[21:59] <sheepz> currently ubuntu prompts me with a screen that the ntfs partion could not be automatically mounted
[21:59] <henkpoley> Wormfall: this is not saved at all, it is just an overrider
[21:59] <erik14213us> i still have had no success in editing grub
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> frxstrem:  in theory yes.. but  theres proberly going to be issues if you dont recompile it. (ie just have a binary)
[21:59] <DocPlatypus> frxstrem: *sometimes* you can run older software written for Unix or a GNU variant in something modern. it depends on the libraries used etc.
[21:59] <haarp_> hi all. , i can just connect to internet with my cable , my wireless it not working with my 10.04 ...what can be the problem?
[21:59] <erik14213us> for video setting
[22:00] <frxstrem> Dr_Willis, DocPlatypus: ok, thanks
[22:00] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: do you see any wireless networks listed?
[22:00] <DocPlatypus> frxstrem: also as Dr_Willis said it *really* helps to have source code and recompile.
[22:00] <erik14213us> so im still running 9.04
[22:00] <haarp_> ilovefairuz, no
[22:00] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: pastebin: lshw -C network
[22:00] <AndrewMC> haarp_: Check for restricted drivers too
[22:00] <haarp_> ok.
[22:00] <DocPlatypus> haarp_: what wireless chipset?
[22:00] <erik14213us> the monitor goes black on start up with 10.04
[22:00] <haarp_> realtek.
[22:00] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 got it installed annd ran nvidia-config.. have new xorg.conf.. will let you know in a few after i reboot
[22:01] <Wormfall> henkpoley: It is stating press ctrl-x to boot, should i just do that
[22:01] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: also check system > administration > hardware drivers
[22:01] <haarp_> ok
[22:01] <gary_inNYC> hi, I understand ipod/iphone compatibility has been added to 10.04.  does this compatibility apply to syncing apps as well, or just to music, videos, pics?
[22:01] <Wormfall> pressing enter inputs another line and then b juts types another letter on that line
[22:01] <henkpoley> Wormfall: try that yes, I don't know much about the changes in grub 2 used by Ubuntu nowadays :P
[22:02] <erik14213us> does anyone else have video problem with 10.04
[22:02] <danielstri> Hello, I'm following instructions about how to share my internet, it says "ifconfig ethX ip, where ethX is the network card and ip is your desired server ip address (Usually 192.168.0.1 is used)". How can I find out what to put as ethX? I don't even know the format..
[22:02] <Gnea> !iphone
[22:02] <AndrewMC> gary_inNYC: Just music etc apps must be done via app store
[22:02] <Wormfall> henkpoley: alright let me try it.. its "booting a command list"\
[22:02] <ilovefairuz> danielstri: type 'ifconfig' and press enter
[22:02] <gary_inNYC> ah thank you
[22:02] <Wormfall> henkpoley: nope, same situation
[22:03] <erik14213us> i have tried an after i see ubuntu logo the screen goes black
[22:03] <henkpoley> erik14213us: video problems are related to you graphics drivers (X11), sound card and individual media players (Xine, mplayer, etc.)
[22:03] <Wormfall> henkpoley: turned on and then right to sleep/hibernate
[22:03] <henkpoley> erik14213us: so what's you setup ?
[22:03] <nico_> hello all
[22:03] <sheepz> ok, let's see if it works :D
[22:03] <erik14213us> i tried ubuntu 10/04
[22:03] <danielstri> ilovefairuz: What is the format of what they are looking for?
[22:03] <henkpoley> Wormfall: really odd, it should be able to do that at this point..
[22:04] <erik14213us> i cant get to login screen
[22:04] <ilovefairuz> danielstri: eth0, eth1, .. it's the card connected to the internet
[22:04] <haarp_> http://pastebin.com/JAc6815n
[22:04] <henkpoley> Wormfall: with noacpi it can't even shutdown your laptop in the end, when you ask to do so
[22:04] <danielstri> Ah ok
[22:04] <danielstri> Thanks.
[22:04] <erik14213us> dell dimension 2400
[22:04] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I am not sure what the problem can be
[22:05] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , http://pastebin.com/JAc6815n
[22:05] <erik14213us> what next
[22:05] <erik14213us> go back ro to 9.04
[22:05] <nico_> i am repairing a computer for a friend and she wanted to change the password on the computer. it is a kubuntu 8.10 and when i went to change the password it comes back saying "no password supplied" does anyone know how to resolve this problem
[22:05] <henkpoley> Wormfall: I think the ATI graphics driver does something funky, I'll see if there are any boot options to use a 'save' VGA driver, or older ATI driver
[22:05] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up   .. gives an error ?
[22:05] <haarp_> i ll check now. wait.
[22:06] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I am running ati radeon mobility 9000
[22:06] <AndrewMC> haarp_: You should be able to join networks
[22:06] <erik14213us> had same problems with 9.10
[22:06] <haarp_> haarp@ubuntu:~$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:06] <haarp_> haarp@ubuntu:~$
[22:06] <haarp_> nope :)
[22:06] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: next: iwlist wlan0 scan
[22:06] <erik14213us> i know 9.04 no longer supported
[22:06] <haarp_> ok
[22:06] <erik14213us> but no choice
[22:07] <Gnea> erik14213us: have you tried turning off the 'quiet splash' options?
[22:07] <haarp_> haarp@ubuntu:~$ iwlist wlan0 scan
[22:07] <haarp_> wlan0     No scan results
[22:07] <haarp_> haarp@ubuntu:~$
[22:07] <henkpoley> Wormfall: well, there's `xforcevesa`
[22:07] <erik14213us> look im a newbie
[22:07] <Gnea> drop the 'tude, I asked a yes or no question
[22:07] <henkpoley> Wormfall: it needs to be on the same line as where you tried to add `noacpi`
[22:07] <erik14213us> i have no idea about turning off splash screen
[22:07] <henkpoley> Wormfall: skip the noacpi nolapic stuff though
[22:07] <AndrewMC> erik14213us: Why cant you upgrade?
[22:08] <erik14213us> karmic
[22:08] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: please use pastebin for output next time, and do you have any wireless networks in range?
[22:08] <Wormfall> so right after quiet splash put xforcevesa
[22:08] <erik14213us> thats the problem
[22:08] <Iceman_B> Im setting up a new ubuntu machine and I have another system which holds a server system. How much effort will it take to use that drive in the new system?
[22:08] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , yes i have many... and no1 is listed.
[22:08] <erik14213us> i was told try editing grub
[22:08] <Iceman_B> can I access my data just like that? do I need to moun it first, do I need credentials?
[22:08] <Gnea> erik14213us: well, it's part of the bootup sequence
[22:08] <Gnea> erik14213us: yeah, that's basically what it is. you can edit it without editting it permanently.
[22:09] <sheepz> is there a way to test my fstab without restarting :P?
[22:09] <erik14213us> i thought issue be fixed
[22:09] <erik14213us> by now
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> sheepz:  sudo mount -a
[22:09] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: there's a thread about it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267961 .. I'm looking into solutions
[22:09] <sheepz> Dr_Willis: ok, no error
[22:09] <Wormfall> henkpoley: xforcevesa dind't do anything
[22:10] <Guest> Hey, I'm trying to use patch on ubuntu (slicehost) but it's not installed, what package should I install?
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> erik14213us, have you disbled noacpi to test yet?  More importantly, do you get the the Main Menu with the Try / Install / Test and stuff?
[22:10] <haarp_> i checked all the forums about the problem.. they are mentioning ndiswrapper.. i also installed it.
[22:10] <Gnea> erik14213us: well, I can help walk you through it if you're ready to do some troubleshooting
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  if the command is 'patch' just type it on the terminal and it should say what package is needed,
[22:10] <thune3> nico_: are you trying to change the password to <blank>? that sound like the error.
[22:10] <erik14213us> that means shitting down
[22:10] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , i checked all the forums about the problem.. they are mentioning ndiswrapper.. i also installed it., and the last chance i came here.
[22:10] <haresh> hello
[22:10] <erik14213us> an reinstalling 10.04
[22:10] <Guest> Dr_Willis: I'm using slicehost, and the version of ubuntu installed doesn't do that for me.
[22:11] <Gnea> what?
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> erik14213us, from the main menu, press F6 and highlight then press enter on NoACPI and noapic - then select try again
[22:11] <Gnea> !language
[22:11] <Gnea> erik14213us: I realize you meant 'shutting down', but please, be careful
[22:11] <erik14213us> is this with gnome running
[22:11] <mrman208> Hi
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  no idea what slicehost is.. You could install whatever packatge does that job. bnut i dont know what that is either. or just try apt-cache search patch
[22:11] <Gnea> ZykoticK9: that's assuming quite a bit
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> erik14213us, i though you couldn't get to gnome?
[22:11] <erik14213us> i cant
[22:11] <haresh> guys need some help in installing my grafix card
[22:11] <erik14213us> im only asking question
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> !find patch
[22:12] <Gnea> erik14213us: if you want an answer, you need to answer our questions.
[22:12] <Guest> ok thanks! :)
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> erik14213us, so from LiveCD try the various boot options with the F6 key, good luck man.
[22:12] <Gnea> that's how the troubleshooting process works.
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  seems its called 'patch' :)
[22:12] <erik14213us> ok
[22:12] <mrman208> IRC is crazy :P
[22:12] <henkpoley> Wormfall: recovery mode from Grub works huh ?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> mrman208:  it is? Never noticed.
[22:12] <erik14213us> i mean once i install it
[22:12] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: pastebin /var/log/messages
[22:13] <Gnea> erik14213us: are you in windows?
[22:13] <Guest> Dr_Willis: yeah i thought patch was so basic that it wouldn't be in apt-get, i was surprised it wasn't installed by default
[22:13] <mrman208> Dr_Willis: Well, here it is, so many q/a conversations going on at once xD
[22:13] <squarebracket> ah! indicator applet icons are huge now!! how do i undo?
[22:13] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can boot into recovery mode with no problem
[22:13] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , ok
[22:13] <erik14213us> does 10.04 have more boot options than 9.10
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  why would it be installed by default. :) the compiler and stuff are not default either..
[22:13] <erik14213us> no
[22:13] <henkpoley> Wormfall: but that only gives you a command prompt isn't it ?
[22:13] <erik14213us> im on xubuntu 9.04
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  build-essential may pull it in. I never uinstalled it manually.
[22:13] <Iceman_B> when I want to use an HDD with an encrypted home folder in another Ubuntu system, how do I get to my files ?
[22:13] <Guest> Dr_Willis: yeah that surprised me too :) well i'm a ubuntu noob, thanks for the help
[22:13] <Gnea> erik14213us: boot options are pretty much all the same. it's just a matter of doing it.
[22:13] <mrman208> !apt-get
[22:14] <Wormfall> henkpoley: it gives me resume clean, dpkg, failsefX, feuv, netroor, root
[22:14] <Gnea> erik14213us: what are your system specs? cpu/ram/etc?
[22:14] <Wormfall> henkpoley: those are my options
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  Only so much can fit ion a 700mb cd..
[22:14] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , http://pastebin.com/4uWkXgQj
[22:14] <erik14213us> 2.8 ghz 1 gig ram
[22:14] <erik14213us> intel
[22:14] <Gnea> ok
[22:14] <enix316> i have an internal blu ray/ hd dvd player in my windowz box. does anyone have similar and run ubuntu 10.04 ok?
[22:15] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: paste all the file
[22:15] <erik14213us> someone said i needed to edit grub
[22:15] <haarp_> ok
[22:15] <Gnea> erik14213us: yeah, try reinstalling 10.04, then see if the problem reproduces. if it does, come back and ask again.
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> enix316:  You mean 'watch blueray movies in ubuntu' ? ubuntu should run on a system with blieray with no oproblems.
[22:15] <Gnea> erik14213us: it's really impossible to tell you what the problem is when it's not installed.
[22:15] <erik14213us> i can tell u exactly wat happens
[22:15] <Gnea> it doesn't matter.
[22:15] <erik14213us> on startup
[22:15] <Gnea> nope
[22:15] <Gnea> that doesn't count
[22:16] <erik14213us> i see the logo
[22:16] <Gnea> need to know what dmesg says
[22:16] <Gnea> you don't have that.
[22:16] <erik14213us> then monitor goes bl;ank
[22:16] <Gnea> yeah
[22:16] <Gnea> and then nothing happens, i know
[22:16] <Gnea> seen it
[22:16] <FloodBot2> Gnea: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , how can select all the sentences in terminal? i can not select all.
[22:16] <Wormfall> henkpoley: even if i run in failsafex mode it still wont work.. the problem is when ubuntu is starting :(
[22:16] <erik14213us> so whats the point of reinstalling
[22:16] <Gnea> erik14213us: you'll just need to reinstall and then turn on verbosity on-boot
[22:16] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: sudo pastebinit /var/log/messages
[22:17] <haarp_> ok
[22:17] <enix316> Dr_Willis: just curious if harware is compatable, google is not returing good results
[22:17] <Gnea> to see what the real problem is
[22:17] <haresh> guys need some help in installing my grafix card
[22:17] <Gnea> otherwise, stick with xubuntu
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> enix316, i'm sure the drive will work (test with a LiveCD), not sure about the HD/BR stuff (check out support with mplayer) - also see the !restricted factoid for any pointers.  good luck man.
[22:17] <ilovefairuz> !details | haresh
[22:17] <erik14213us> how do u turn on verbosity
[22:17] <henkpoley> Wormfall: personally I would drop to a root shell, and use `aptitude update` and then `aptitude safe-upgrade` to update everything to latest versions.
[22:17] <Gnea> remove 'quiet splash' from the bootup sequence
[22:17] <erik14213us> how do i do that
[22:17] <henkpoley> Wormfall: I expect that would be the 'root' option
[22:17] <Gnea> erik14213us: try it with your xubuntu
[22:18] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , http://pastebin.com/7sh5NWYT
[22:18] <mrman208> Is this related to ubuntu? I wan't to install Ubuntu on a 4GB USB pen drive, created with a Mac, and boot my mac to the USB Drive. When I install on the flash drive and hold option on Mac startup it only shows the main hard drive.
[22:18] <thune3> erik14213us: what video chip do you have "lspci | grep VGA", http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes may be relevant depending
[22:18] <Gnea> erik14213us: okay, when you turn on the computer, it goes through POST, then it boots xubuntu, right?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> enix316:   its a sata opticel drive.. should be rather standard.. for data ussage at least.
[22:18] <henkpoley> Wormfall: do you have you laptop plugged in with a network cable ?
[22:18] <erik14213us> yes
[22:18] <Dynetrekk> hi, how can I set rtorrent's upload "throttle" to 0 kb/s?
[22:18] <Wormfall> henkpoley: Yea
[22:18] <Gnea> erik14213us: okay, well there's a small amount of time for you to press ESC (it should say so on the screen) - that's when you can edit it
[22:18] <henkpoley> Wormfall: whew, no way I would be going to guide you through configuring wireless on the command prompt :P
[22:19] <aeon-ltd> erik14213us: dlete the options in /etc/default/grub
[22:19] <enix316> Dr_Willis: Thanks, think i am gonna pull drive and hook it up and find out. appreciate ur input
[22:19] <erik14213us> an what do i type
[22:19] <Wormfall> henkpoley: :P
[22:19] <mrman208> Is this related to ubuntu? I wan't to install Ubuntu on a 4GB USB pen drive, created with a Mac, and boot my mac to the USB Drive. When I install on the flash drive and hold option on Mac startup it only shows the main hard drive.
[22:20] <erik14213us> how do i delete them
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> mrman208, i'm under the impression (but don't know) that you can't boot MAC from USB
[22:20] <Oer> mrman208, intel mac ? > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac
[22:20] <mrman208> Oer: Cool, I'll check it out
[22:20] <danielstri> Has anyone else been having problems with sharing internet on 10.04?
[22:20] <haresh> how can i cehck if i have fully installed my graix card
[22:21] <erik14213us> i have never fooled with editing grub
[22:21] <mrman208> Oer: Does it matter that this is not an iMac?
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> haresh, check out glxinfo and/or glxgears from terminal
[22:21] <Oer> mrman208, macbook ?
[22:21] <Gnea> erik14213us: well, you press ESC and then all is explained.
[22:21] <mrman208> Oer: Correct
[22:21] <haresh> ZykoticK9, i get this Segmentation fault
[22:21] <mrman208> Oer: But Intel all the same
[22:21] <henkpoley> Wormfall: are you at the root shell now?
[22:22] <Gnea> erik14213us: it's pretty easy to figure out, even for a beginner. it tells you which key-presses do what.
[22:22] <Oer> mrman208,  oke, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[22:22] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: did you try installing linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic ?
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> haresh, that's bad!
[22:22] <ccmonster> can someone help me with a svn command really quick? The #SVN room isn't responding and im a tad confused. Thanks.
[22:22] <mrman208> Oer: Awesome, thanks!
[22:22] <Wormfall> henkpoley: let me get there give me one sec..
[22:22] <Oer> have fun
[22:22] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , no... let me install it :)
[22:22] <haresh> huh
[22:22] <Wormfall> henkpoley: alright im there
[22:22] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , thanks for helping me out :) i know i am headache.
[22:22] <henkpoley> Wormfall: from what I can see you need the 'radeon' driver for your graphics card.
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> haresh, are you using nvidia?
[22:23] <ilovefairuz> haresh: it means a program is crashing with no error, pastebin: lshw -C display
[22:23] <Wormfall> henkpoley: root@ubuntu:~#
[22:23] <haresh> ZykoticK9, Ati radeon 9200
[22:23] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: it's what we do here :)
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> haresh, sorry man - i can't help ya.  good luck.
[22:23] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , its installing :) (thanks)
[22:23] <henkpoley> Wormfall: what does `grep radeon /etc/X11/xorg.conf` say ? (don't type the backticks: ``)
[22:23] <floating> How can I have a current working dir (.) in the default LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
[22:24] <ZykoticK9> haresh, i think i recall something about a segfault error with ATI recently... but an FYI, don't remember the details.
[22:24] <Wormfall> henkpoley: no such file or directory
[22:24] <ilovefairuz> floating: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=whateveryouwant
[22:24] <Iceman_B> how do I copy data between 2 seperate ubuntu systems over a network ?
[22:24] <wildeja> Hi guys 'n' gal's, I wonder if you could help me please. I've just sat down to watch a movie with my wife on my shiny new Ubuntu box and it wouldn't play. Movieplayer went of and searched for a plugin but came up empty. Now it just says The playback of this movie requires a X-NAUTILUS-DESKTOP protocol source plugin which is not installed.
[22:25] <henkpoley> Wormfall: what does `ls /etc/X11/x*` say ?
[22:25] <haresh> ilovefairuz, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/a8wEntF2
[22:25] <ilovefairuz> Iceman_B: Places > Connect to > select ssh and type username
[22:25] <Dynetrekk> wildeja: tried vlc?
[22:25] <Iceman_B> ilovefairuz: what if neither system has a GUI ?
[22:25] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , done :) Setting up linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic (2.6.32.24.25) ...
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> wildeja, two options  A) install codecs (ubuntu-restricted-extras) or B) differnt program VLC or mplayer
[22:25] <Wormfall> henkpoley: /etc/x11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[22:25] <wildeja> Dynetrekk, No, but the name just keeps coming up, I'm going to go get it, Cheers
[22:25] <Wormfall> henkpoley: /etc/x11/init:
[22:26] <ilovefairuz> Iceman_B: install and use sshfs
[22:26] <Wormfall> henkpoley: xinitrc xinput.d xserverrc
[22:26] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: reboot
[22:26] <Wormfall> henkpoley: /etc/x11/xkb:
[22:26] <henkpoley> Wormfall: enough.. :P
[22:26] <floating> thanks ilovefairuz
[22:26] <Wormfall> haha
[22:26] <Iceman_B> ilovefairuz: okay. I'll try that, thanks
[22:26] <Dynetrekk> wildeja: apt-get install vlc :-) good luck
[22:26] <haarp_> ilovefairuz? ok.. i am connecting from it... btw , it makes smthg in grub.cfg , anything will i choose when starting up? coz it's the same computer i am using.
[22:27] <mrman208> Oer: I checked it out but it does not say anything about installing on a USB drive.
[22:27] <floating> ilovefairuz: hmm that didn't stay there though.. export LD_LIBRARY_PATH.. when relogin
[22:27] <henkpoley> Wormfall: try `X -configure`
[22:27] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: no, just boot as normal
[22:27] <haarp_> ok
[22:27] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , ok brb in 3min.
[22:27] <Wormfall> henkpoley: gave mea  list of video drivers
[22:28] <Oer> mrman208, installing on, not installing from ?
[22:28] <ilovefairuz> floating: no it doesn't persist, you can add it to .bashrc but it's generally a bad idea to use it, what are you trying to accomplish ?
[22:28] <henkpoley> Wormfall: but are you back at the command prompt ?
[22:28] <mrman208> Oer: on, correct
[22:28] <Wormfall> henkpoley: it says that my xorg.conf file is now /root/xorg.conf.new
[22:28] <Wormfall> yea
[22:29] <henkpoley> Wormfall: sweet, now try `grep Driver /root/xorg.conf.new`
[22:29] <Oer> mrman208, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles#Mac%20OS%20X
[22:29] <mrman208> Oer: Thanks, will check it out
[22:29] <Wormfall> henkpoley: i got available driver options are kbd, mouse and radeon
[22:30] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok Im back after a brief run to the store.
[22:30] <Wormfall> henkpoley: it seems that kbd and mouse are installed and "avaialbel driver optiosn are" radoen
[22:30] <ZykoticK9> Oer, so it appears you can boot Mac from USB, good to know.  mrman208
[22:30] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 I am at the main page but there are no toolbars, no mouse pointer and no keyboard control.. any ideas?
[22:30] <henkpoley> Wormfall: yes, radeon is the one you want
[22:30] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, press F6
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, keyboard only here!
[22:31] <Oer> ZykoticK9, mrman208 http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-create-an-ubuntu-installation-usb-on-the-mac/
[22:31] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 pressed F6 and no response. its like gnome is locked up
[22:31] <floating> ilovefairuz: ok tx. my friends problem, but he left now
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, this is from a 10.04 live cd - at the first text boot option where you choose livecd or install?
[22:31] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , yes now? :)
[22:32] <henkpoley> Wormfall: now try `xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new`
[22:32] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: still no wireless networks listed?
[22:32] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 no this is booting without the cd in the drive
[22:32] <mrman208> Oer: I don't think that will work. I want to use the USB drive and boot to it on the Mac
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, ahhhh different steps!  might need someone elses help REAL soon!
[22:32] <JohninLex> any really older ubuntu users in here right now
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, hold shift as computer starts to get grub menu
[22:33] <Wormfall> henkpoley: xorg command not found
[22:33] <Scunizi> JohninLex: older .. like 50yrs +?
[22:33] <aristo> JohninLex, why
[22:33] <haarp_> i ailovefairuz , i am on cable now.. how can i check the listed wireless networks?
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> Anyone know how to add kernel parameters easily to 10.04?  i'd love to through "text" in for denverdave
[22:33] <henkpoley> Wormfall: doh, try X instead of Xorg
[22:33] <JohninLex> or at least someone that knows about pcmcia devices, doesnt think there old videos cards
[22:33] <agib> does anyone know how I can automate the installation of java? i.e. if I'm setting up a server with chef and I have `package "sun-java6-jre"` will it get stuck on the DLJ license?
[22:33] <ritztech> for the life of me i cant remember CLI verion to view a web page
[22:33] <UmlautBanana> So I have a linksys router, and internet doesn't work on Ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04. I think I need a driver of some sort, but I don't know where to get it.
[22:33] <ilovefairuz> haresh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/300304/comments/16
[22:33] <Wormfall> henkpoley: screen went blank..
[22:33] <henkpoley> Wormfall, so: `X -config /root/xorg.conf.new`
[22:34] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , i am on cable now.. how can i check the listed wireless networks?
[22:34] <mrman208> Oer: I don't think that will work. I want to use the USB drive and boot to it on the Mac
[22:34] <henkpoley> Wormfall: and it's "hibernating" again ?
[22:34] <henkpoley> 
[22:34] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: iwlist wlan0 scan
[22:34] <haarp_> ok
[22:34] <mrman208> Oer: That one has it booting on a Non-Mac
[22:34] <Wormfall> henkpoley: no, not hibernating... everything seems normal just no picture
[22:34] <JohninLex> Scunizi:  and aristo  you see why now
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> agib, you need to take adding the partner repo as well (possibly) good luck [i've heard others ask the same question for automation purposes, don't recall an answer]
[22:34] <henkpoley> Wormfall: no mouse even ?
[22:34] <Oer> mrman208,  sorry, then you have to burn the cd
[22:34] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , wlan0     No scan results
[22:34] <Scunizi> JohninLex: you using that for internet access?  is it pcmcia to ethernet? or ??
[22:34] <haarp_> :/
[22:34] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok got grub menu up.. goig to boot to recovery mode yes?
[22:34] <agib> ZykoticK9: think it's possible?
[22:35] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can't see anything.. its as if the screen is off.. \
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, sure
[22:35] <Oer> i do not own a mac, just knew these helppages
[22:35] <wildeja> bye
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> agib, i doubt it - but i'm a pessimist ;)
[22:35] <JohninLex> Scunizi:  yea but not wireless, 10mbps card
[22:35] <mrman208> Oer: I have a CD, but When I install to the drive and hold option on startup, it does not show the USB drive as a bootable option. Only the main hard drive
[22:35] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 now booting into failsafe graphic mode
[22:35] <Scunizi> JohninLex: is the system just not recognizing it?
[22:35] <henkpoley> Wormfall: Try hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[22:36] <Wormfall> henkpoley: nothing
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, once you get there i'd try updating your system first (do you know how to do that cli?)
[22:36] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: do you have all the latest updates? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrad
[22:36] <Scunizi> JohninLex: also .. is there another nic card in the computer?
[22:36] <ilovefairuz> upgrade *
[22:36] <aristo> JohninLex, yes i see, sorry but i have never worked with pcmcia devices
[22:36] <haarp_> yes i have.. but i ll do these things wait.
[22:36] <JohninLex> Scunizi:  no it see the card, just fine, I just need to knw how to edit eth1 to set the tx and rx and dhcpcd
[22:36] <henkpoley> Wormfall: Ctrl-Alt-F1 ?
[22:37] <Wormfall> henkpoley: there we go text came back
[22:37] <Scunizi> JohninLex: are you cli only or do you have a gui?
[22:37] <JohninLex> Scunizi: and I am just playing with Ubuntu 5.04 on and older toshiba 320cdt
[22:37] <frxstrem> are there any good XML/(X)HTML editors for Ubuntu?
[22:37] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 I see ilovefairuz gave that command already will run it
[22:37] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , just libc6 .. it's upgragind now;.
[22:37] <Wormfall> henkpoley: seems as if some stuff started.. and it tried to do something but then it just stopped
[22:37] <JohninLex> Scunizi:  I am just cli only right now
[22:38] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: are you on 64bit? if so check http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9530415&postcount=2
[22:38] <henkpoley> Wormfall: are you back at the command prompt ?
[22:38] <Scunizi> JohninLex: ah.. wow.. I think I still have my iso from that release.. let's see. .. hang on a sec
[22:38] <Wormfall> henkpoley: last lie is (II) [KMS] kernel modesetting eneabled.
[22:38] <henkpoley> Wormfall: else, hit Ctrl-C
[22:38] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , yeah i am on 64bit Ubuntu. ok ill check.
[22:38] <JohninLex> aristo: and I am just playing with Ubuntu 5.04 on and older toshiba 320cdt
[22:38] <Wormfall> im there now
[22:38] <aristo> JonhinLex, wow you want to feel pain ^^
[22:39] <wmcinnis> anyone have a fix for flash
[22:39] <JohninLex> Scunizi: I am a vintage laptop collector and I fine what OS will work on them, and that is it boo for me
[22:39] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok running upgrade after update this may take a few
[22:39] <Wormfall> henkpoley: back at the command prompt
[22:39] <wmcinnis> when in full screen its slow...
[22:39] <aristo> wmcinnis, what do you mean?
[22:39] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: reboot after you install
[22:39] <mrman208> anyone have any ideas?
[22:39] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , ok.
[22:39] <wmcinnis> aristo, when in full screen its choppy and slow
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, you might want to just restart after the updates are completed to see if it resolved the issue...
[22:40] <SimonP86> hello, I have a 64-bit program which requires a library located in my /usr/local/lib dir.  When I try to run the program I get the following error message: "error while loading shared libraries: libantlr3c.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".  I've checked in the /etc/ld.so.conf.d dir and the libc_conf file contains the line "/usr/local/lib" so I don't understand how it can't find the shared library?
[22:40] <henkpoley> Wormfall: try `less /var/log/Xorg.0.log`
[22:40] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 good idea.. will do so and then report back
[22:40] <Scunizi> JohninLex: I play with this so rarely I"ve forgotten most of it.. /etc/resolv.conf has some settings if it is in the 5.04 release and there is another .conf file that lists IP, network card etc.. ifconfig will give you stats and more info
[22:40] <aristo> wmcinnis, it depends if you are using some via gpu you are doomed, if using nvidia propietary drivers try deactivatig hardware accel in flash player options
[22:40] <ilovefairuz> mrman208: how did you install to the drive?
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> SimonP86, is the program looking for the 32bit or 64bit library?
[22:40] <wmcinnis> aristo, where do i do that
[22:40] <twobitsprite> so, I'm running ubuntu, but I installed the kubuntu desktop. When I log out, and then log in with KDE, my wireless network doesn't come up... am I missing like a KDE version of the network manager thing or something?
[22:40] <SimonP86> 64bit
[22:41] <henkpoley> Wormfall: go to the end and look for Errors (usually marked with [EE] and [WW] or "error" and "warning", "fail"..)
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> SimonP86, sorry you started with that.  good luck.
[22:41] <wmcinnis> aristo, i have the nvidia ion
[22:41] <Wormfall> henkpoley: A lot of information came up.. not sure what I am looking for
[22:41] <Scunizi> JohninLex: in /etc/network is "interfaces".. look there too.
[22:41] <mrman208> ilovefairuz: First, I erased it with Disk Utility on the Mac. The installed to it using the whole disk and installed the bootloader on the USB.
[22:41] <mrman208> *Then
[22:41] <aguitel> twobitsprite, in kde network manager get bug
[22:41] <henkpoley> Wormfall: you can search around within a file in `less` by hitting / and then entering the word you are looking for
[22:41] <agib> ZykoticK9: going to try openjdk-6-jre :)
[22:42] <ilovefairuz> !usb | mrman208
[22:42] <henkpoley> Wormfall: so /error[enter] for example
[22:42] <aristo> wmcinnis, which driver are you using?
[22:42] <twobitsprite> aguitel: you mean, there is a bug in the kde network manager? or are you telling me to get something called "bug"?
[22:42] <wmcinnis> the latest binary
[22:42] <JohninLex> I see a problem here Scunizi  there bothe empty time to build some building thanks
[22:42] <Scunizi> JohninLex: the interfaces file will list which card to use, static or dhcp, auto connect, netmask, gateway etc..
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> agib, hope it works for you app!  no silly license to accept ;)
[22:42] <agib> heh
[22:42] <agib> me too
[22:42] <agib> thank you
[22:42] <henkpoley> Wormfall: questionmark (so": ?) searches upwards
[22:42] <wildeja> Hello again, Would anyone happen to know why every time i try to install a package from the repos i get told that the package cannot be authenticated please
[22:42] <mrman208> ilovefairuz: But that's the thing, I am not trying to install FROM a USB drive, I am trying to install TO it and boot from the USB on a Mac
[22:43] <aguitel> twobitsprite, there is a bug in the kde network manager
[22:43] <SimonP86> ZykoticK9: I've made a workaround by adding the line "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib" to ~.bashrc
[22:43] <twobitsprite> aguitel: is there a workaround?
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> SimonP86, nice!  well done man.
[22:43] <mrman208> ilovefairuz: Wait, nvm, just read the last part :P
[22:43] <owen1> i wanted to convert a friend with macbookpro to ubuntu. i chose to 'run ubuntu without installing' from the menu but nothing happend. we waited for 10 minutes but the screen remained black. please help lost soul switch to ubuntu!
[22:43] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: what repo? standard repo? sudo apt-get update   and see if there are any errors
[22:43] <aguitel> twobitsprite, try to use nm-applet from gnome
[22:43] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, on it,
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  totally depends on the video card/chipset
[22:44] <owen1> Dr_Willis: let me google for macbookpro 5.1
[22:44] <pagan0ne> ok, i managed to hose my xorg.conf file, and x hangs on boot... i have a bluetooth keyboard, and the when i boot into init1 it drops me to a prompt, at that prompt bluetooth has not yet been initilaized, and the kernel had been handed control of the keyboard so i can not make a selection, is there anyway to boot directly into shell w/o any weird help menus on the way?
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  ive noticed the live cd - can be VERY slow at tiomes to boot up also
[22:44] <henkpoley> Wormfall: just have a good look around for anything that tells you it is having a problem. It's free form, basically the driver programmer can write there whatever he wants.
[22:44] <twobitsprite> aguitel: where do I find that? aptitude doesn't recognize that name
[22:44] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, worked fine, last line said "Fetched 138kB in 8s (15.5kB/s)"
[22:45] <SimonP86> ZykoticK9: can I just add the line "/usr/local/lib" to x86_64-linux-gnu.conf?
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> pagan0ne, hope you have a usb keyboard handy (man that's a chicken-n-egg / catch 22 type situation, good luck)
[22:45] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: input is not a pipe (press return)
[22:45] <aguitel> twobitsprite, you have gnome to?
[22:45] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: what ubuntu version are you running and what package are you trying to install ?
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> SimonP86, not sure
[22:45] <SumoJim_> Hello, I have just booted the latest 32bit live CD onto my laptop. It shows the Ubuntu logo along with the little progress dots... Once that screen finishes the screen goes black and nothing else happens. (There isn't even a flashing cursor.)
[22:45] <twobitsprite> aguitel: yep
[22:45] <SumoJim_> This laptop is from 2005 and has run many previous versions of Ubuntu without a problem.
[22:46] <pagan0ne> ZykoticK9, i dont however @ grub my keyboard works as a normal usb keyboard because kernel has not been passed control, i tried setting 1 after the kernel line, but it boots into a txt menu asking me to select which i cant
[22:46] <SumoJim_> Has anyone else experienced something like this?
[22:46] <aguitel> twobitsprite, alt+f2:and type :nm-applet
[22:46] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Ubuntu 10.04 AMD64 Desktop, Any package dose the same, i have to install everything through cli to get the option to 'install anyway(y/n)'
[22:46] <Wormfall_> henkpoly: how do I get out of this log file
[22:46] <aristo> aguitel @debian-es too?
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> SumoJim_, my suggestion is at the first text menu, to press F6 then turn off ACPI but pressing enter on it to select it.  Then try LiveCD option again, if you want to install you can from inside Live Environment.  good luck.
[22:46] <pagan0ne> ZykoticK9, i would ssh into the box but apparently sshd is loaded after x which doesnt make any sense to set it up that way!
[22:46] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: is that in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, or by less itself ?
[22:46] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, VLC, gcompris, everything :)
[22:47] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: in the file
[22:47] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: you can quit less by pressing 'q'
[22:47] <aguitel> aristo, i am now with ubuntu
[22:47] <Wormfall_> alright im back at the root command prompt
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> pagan0ne, actually ssh should be loaded before X, but are you using wireless? could be nm-applet hasn't run.
[22:47] <aguitel> aristo, in my laptop
[22:47] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: personally I would expect it having problem with choosing the right "modeline", or choosing something that is far too big for your lcd
[22:47] <pagan0ne> ZykoticK9, no im not using wireless
[22:47] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: i ran the grep DEriver /root/xorg.conf.new command again and radeon is still there
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> pagan0ne, then ssh should be running.
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> wildbat: choose another mirror in "source sources"
[22:48] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: should I install notebook instead of desktop for my laptop?\
[22:48] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: the info why it doesn't work should be in the log file
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> wildbat: then "reload"
[22:48] <pagan0ne> ZykoticK9, the host is unreachable via anything, it appears networking wont even come up till after x has loaded, could it be because network-manager manages all this?
[22:48] <SumoJim_> ZykotickK98, is ACPI a BIOS option?
[22:48] <x86br> i got mine wireless card working out of box on ubuntu 10. But for some reason, the wificard dont search any hotspot
[22:48] <aristo> aguitel, ubuntu on desktop pc, debian VMs for network services
[22:48] <x86br> what i need do?
[22:48] <pil> is it possible to change ae user without logoff?
[22:48] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, sorry? I don't understand "sources sources"
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> SumoJim_, no a boot option
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> !tab > SumoJim_
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: from synaptic
[22:48] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I only have two WW (warnings) that say /usr/share/fonts/x11/cyrillic - does not exist
[22:49] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: as far as I know the netbook version mostly has a different desktop manager, no differences in drivers.
[22:49] <ZykoticK9> henkpoley, correct
[22:49] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: fonts come and go, not important
[22:49] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, ahh light dawns, i'll go try now
[22:49] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: hmm so the problem is that we can not isntall the radeon drivers?
[22:49] <x86br> so, no one?
[22:50] <henkpoley> you do have the radeon driver, else you would not have a black screen even
[22:50] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: can you find out ( nearish to the end) what resolution it chooses ?
[22:50] <Linux> hello guys...what is that on YouTube with chromium? http://screenshooter.net/57176690/wniqxcn i cant click on "view more info"....
[22:50] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: it's in the log file
[22:50] <pil> I am just curious about something - is it possible to change a user without loging off?
[22:50] <brontosaurusrex> x86br: and your router does transmitt the ssid?
[22:51] <Wormfall_> henkpoly: I only see font stuff..
[22:51] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: A boot option? You mean adjust the boot order? I never get to any menu beyond the bios.
[22:51] <Guest98482> hi
[22:51] <nico_> please can anyone tell me how to fix this password problem?
[22:51] <Oer> pil yes, only if the user is not active.
[22:51] <henkpoley> pil: yes, if your desktop manager (say: gnome) is compatible with your login manager (say GDM)
[22:51] <brontosaurusrex> pil: in terminal i think 'su someotheruser'
[22:51] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: i do see Monitor "Monitor0" and Device "Card0"
[22:52] <uRock> nico, what is the password problem?
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> SumoJim_, first menu of livecd is text based - asks LiveCD or Install - press F6 to get "kernel options", enter to select them.
[22:52] <Linux> hello guys...what is that on YouTube with chromium? http://screenshooter.net/57176690/wniqxcn i cant click on "view more info"....
[22:52] <pil> ok
[22:52] <johnnyq_> hey guys, i'm trying to get ubuntu to recognize the belkin N150 wireless network card
[22:52] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: I never get to the first menu of the like CD.
[22:52] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: nothing like a line of numbers with 1024x768 in there ?
[22:52] <henkpoley> It usually says "Modeline: blah blah"
[22:52] <uRock> nico_, what is the password problem?
[22:53] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: I tried redownloading and making a new CD in case there was some issue with my copy too.
[22:53] <nico_> urock: it says that there is "no password supplied" when i try to change the password in this computer i am repairing
[22:53] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: not on the screen there might be some moer information i just don't know how to continue nfor more
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> SumoJim_, strange.  Afraid I don't have any other suggestions.  Good luck man.
[22:53] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: i do see "allowemptyinput is on"
[22:53] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: you can use up and down keys
[22:53] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok updated and that did fix issue. I saw GPU lockup just fore the screen went to black/white blocks
[22:53] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: Alright, I'll try to just use a previous version of Ubuntu that I know to work then. Thanks.
[22:53] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: also [Enter] works, and page up/down too I believe
[22:53] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 correction did not
[22:54] <owen1> Dr_Willis: Nvidia GeForce 9400M
[22:54] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: also 'f' is one page (f)orward
[22:54] <Iceman_B> when I install an hdd with an Ubuntu system + my files into another system which boots from another hdd, whats the quickest way to strip the old OS from the freshly added HDD ?
[22:54] <owen1> Dr_Willis: cpu - Intel Core 2 Duo (P7350)
[22:54] <Iceman_B> I simply want to be left with only my files on that drive
[22:54] <johnnyq_> hey guys, i'm trying to get ubuntu to recognize the belkin N150 wireless network card. it's connected to the laptop. any idea why it won't show up under ifconfig?
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, what gfx card? "lspci | grep -i vga".
[22:54] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Sorry i have gotten alittle lost, I'm in the software source panel, but don't see any options other than uk server
[22:54] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I do see PCI ifnormation
[22:55] <owen1> Dr_Willis: I have to use live cd so i can replace the mac EFI with a BIOS.
[22:55] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: radeon mobility 91000igp rev 0
[22:55] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: hmm that's strange, take a screenshot
[22:55] <nico_> urock: any idea?
[22:55] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 Geforce GT220
[22:55] <owen1> Dr_Willis: it was xubuntu cd. i'll try ubuntu instead
[22:56] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, done
[22:56] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: Yup, Ubuntu 9.10 booted straight to live CD menu.... Strange. I'm suprised I'm the only one with this problem.
[22:56] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: under radeon driver for ATI radeon chipset i do see ati radeon 9000 ig \
[22:56] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: url?
[22:56] <XunZi_> what is the command to launch the disk management utility?
[22:56] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: well, sometimes the devices are so similar that the driver just reports one of the names
[22:57] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: i do see a lot of information nfor Radeon(0) assuming that is the default installed file
[22:57] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Where shall i put it?
[22:57] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: "default installed file" odd phrasing :P
[22:57] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Pastebiun?
[22:57] <wildeja> pastebin? lol
[22:57] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, have you tried installing the nvidia driver?
[22:57] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: you know what i mean
[22:57] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 not from the cli
[22:58] <denverdave> yet
[22:58] <Chetic> What's a good app to play around with my midi-keyboard?
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, i'd try current first "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[22:58] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok one min
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, after install you need to reboot, as it's a kernel module.
[22:58] <ilovefairuz> !screenshot | wildeja
[22:59] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 roger that reboot
[22:59] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: does it tell anything about displays it finds ?
[22:59] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: like the terms LVDS or TMDS
[23:00] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: you can change the mirror manually: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:00] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, http://imagebin.org/108668
[23:01] <Wormfall_> henkpoly: output lvds has no monitor section
[23:01] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 OMG it came up to the desktop and did not freaking crash.. too freaking cool
[23:01] <Wormfall_> henkpoly vga-0 using monitor section Monitor0\
[23:01] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, nice
[23:01] <denverdave> gota love cli
[23:01] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: not LVDS too ?
[23:01] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I do see modeline's but those are all the diferent resolutions and then down further towards the end output lvds using initial mode 1280x800
[23:01] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: if so.. it tries to use the VGA output
[23:01] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 should I ever meet you.. the drinks are on me
[23:02] <Iceman_B> ilovefairuz: when I copy files over SSHFS, will the permissions/ownerships change? if so, how ?
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, ;)
[23:02] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: is that correct 1280x800 ?
[23:02] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: nope, usually run 1024x800
[23:03] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: do you have a screen to attach so we can test if it thinks the VGA port is the primary display ?
[23:03] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I have to go please add me on msn @ thefly_123@hotmail.com or I will be back in this chat in rougly two to three hours
[23:03] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: I'll be asleep then, damn Europeans huh :P
[23:04] <ilovefairuz> Iceman_B: they will be own by the user who fetched them
[23:04] <Iceman_B> ok
[23:04] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I will then catch you maybe tomorrow.. thanks a lot!
[23:04] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: anyways, that VGA thing could be important, there are options to override it back to the internal LCD though
[23:04] <henkpoley> Ah missed him
[23:06] <nico_> please anyone have any ideas?
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, may I PM you?
[23:07] <muelli> !details | nico_
[23:08] <nico_> already did that but can post again.
[23:08] <nico_> have kubuntu 8.10, can not change the password because when i do it comes back saying "no password supplied"
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> nico_:  and you are changeing it 'how' exactly? try it via the command line?
[23:09] <nico_> have to fix for a friend of mine
[23:09] <nico_> i was changing it through the about me in the system settings
[23:09] <nico_> how u change in command line
[23:09] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, WOW!, all i can say is WOW!, Thank you so much, Problem soleved!
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> nico_:  passwd command.
[23:10]  * Dr_Willis finds that 'me' menu to be rather problematic.
[23:10] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: you're welcome
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> bbl. off to the store.
[23:11] <nico_> dr_willis: in terminal do i type it just that way?
[23:11] <DIL> bring one back for me
[23:11] <aeon-ltd> nico_: yes
[23:12] <nico_> that did not work
[23:12] <nico_> it says command not found
[23:12] <aeon-ltd> nico_: did you make sure it wass 'passwd' its not a typo
[23:13] <nico_> yes
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> nico_: just 'passwd'
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> nico_: who are you logged in as?
[23:13] <henkpoley> heh, you really should have passwd.. :p
[23:14] <Rolotony> Why does it take so long to resolve hosts in 10.4?
[23:14] <henkpoley> nico_: try /usr/bin/passwd
[23:14] <tripel-livecd> New Ubuntu installation: partitioning drive: only ubuntu on drive: ext3: how much space for / and /home then the rest /data   ---  can I have the system on disk sdb ? windows is now on sba but I am going to remove that drive sometimes.
[23:14] <Rolotony> even when using an Ethernet cable it takes like 2minutes to resolve any website
[23:15] <henkpoley> Rolotony: the routers on your network tell your system ipv6 is available, but it doesn't route to the internet. I guess that's your problem
[23:15] <Rolotony> and I'm using Open DNS
[23:15] <sigmab3ta> hey guys, i am trying to build something from source, ./configure --help lists some things at the end under "some influential environment variables",  for example "LIBISOFS_LIBS", I would like to disable/enable some of those. how is that done?
[23:15] <Rolotony> oh my router supports ipv6
[23:15] <maco> Rolotony: opendns has AAAA records
[23:15] <Rolotony> sweet
[23:15] <henkpoley> Rolotony: yes but does your ISP do that too ?
[23:15] <nico_> thank you i got it changed. one more question how do you set up your video card and ensure the 3d is working?
[23:15] <tripel-livecd> I dont find the right information googling ubuntu hard drive allocation / /home
[23:16] <henkpoley> Rolotony: for mine I have to go through all kinds of hoops to use an ipv6 tunnel system that might have been a good idea in 2004 or so.
[23:16] <Chariblaze> If my new installation is telling me it's completing the installation on a BIOS type screen and has been like this for around two hours, should I just force a restart?
[23:16] <maco> tripel-livecd: by default ubuntu puts / and /home as all one partition because our installer has an option not to delete /home on reinstalls
[23:16] <tripel-livecd> How many gigs do I need for the Ubuntu OS partition.
[23:16] <aeon-ltd> tripel-livecd: whatever you like for / /home but for ubuntu an minimum of 8-10gb for / /home should be all remaining space
[23:16] <Rolotony> lol i don't have any options in my router for Ipv6
[23:16] <maco> tripel-livecd: i generally go for 10GB / and the rest /home on normal installs to give them room to grow, but as a developer needing debugging, development, and documentation packages, 15GB is better
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> it's nice for ubuntu related
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBB8zTdY4NU I don't know
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> how made it
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> but its nice
[23:17] <FloodBot2> Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> for ubuntu.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBB8zTdY4NU
[23:17] <tripel-livecd> maco, aeon  I thought that /  and /home were separate things ??
[23:17] <maco> tripel-livecd: optionally
[23:17] <maco> tripel-livecd: you CAN put home on a separate partition, but you dont HAVE to
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> tripel-livecd: they are but everything can be put under /
[23:18] <tripel-livecd> maco thanks. I'll check on what I made.  - new drive is 1Terabyte so I thought I should put them separate.
[23:18] <tripel-livecd> ly
[23:18] <maco> tripel-livecd: /home is just a directory under /   ... you can choose to put it on a separate partition and mount that partition at /home if you want user data on a separate partition
[23:18] <henkpoley> Rolotony: you can disable ipv6 on ubuntu's side for now. Use the google to find out how.
[23:18] <Rolotony> It is disabled
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> tripel-livecd: its just nice to have /home so you can access it with different linux os partitions
[23:18] <Rolotony> thats the first thing i did
[23:19] <Iceman_B> how do I see the ID instead of the username owning a file/dir?
[23:19] <tripel-livecd> maco ok I would like a site/page to teach me so I have an allover understanding. Even a book reference.
[23:19] <Rolotony> so it can't be an ipv6 problem
[23:19] <henkpoley> Rolotony: ah well, then it's something different
[23:19] <henkpoley> ]
[23:19] <ritztech> whats the command to view a webpage Via linux CLI
[23:19] <maco> tripel-livecd: about the filesystem hierarchy standard?
[23:19] <maco> ritztech: w3m is the default text browser in ubuntu
[23:21] <tripel-livecd> aeon-ltd: explain that a little more. If I were to decide to play with fedora, couldnt I access it anyway? -- maco, I dont know what I dont know. But long ago and far away I used to be a programmer so I'd prefer a higher level thing, not a reference standard.  ((thinking of the "definition of Pascal" all on one page diagram. Elegant but not the best teaching tool.))
[23:21] <ritztech> you think i could bash with it .. hhaa
[23:21] <maco> tripel-livecd: there is a standard organisation for the system folderes in linux. thats the FHS
[23:21]  * tripel-livecd laffs at her conbination of experience and newness-dom.
[23:21] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: which nick?
[23:21] <erUSUL> ritztech: w3m ? lynx ? links ?
[23:21] <maco> tripel-livecd: it includes things like "user data goes in /home/*/"
[23:22] <tripel-livecd> maco I'll google those words and see.
[23:22] <aeon-ltd> tripel-livecd: you could mount the whole partitio if you'd like but /home separately means you can reinstall on / without affecting /home think of it as a non-offshore backup of your personal files
[23:22] <maco> tripel-livecd: and /etc being for config files, /var/log being where logs go, /usr/bin/ being where binaries for user software are (their corresponding libraries in /usr/lib/...)
[23:22] <maco> aeon-ltd: its still the same disk. not much of a backup
[23:23] <maco> aeon-ltd: and its still only one copy
[23:23] <maco> aeon-ltd: plus, ubuntu's installer has an option that doesnt overwrite directories named "home" when you reinstall
[23:23] <tripel-livecd> thanks guys maco aeon-ltd  because I am tired of asking questions and would like a deeper understanding. I've been at this install over a day on the partitioning a new disk end of things.
[23:23] <aeon-ltd> maco: really? wow ubuntu has changed alot since i used it
[23:24] <maco> aeon-ltd: in the manual install thing, you can choose to not format a partition before installing. that keeps /home
[23:24] <maco> aeon-ltd: er  manual partition thing, i mean
[23:25] <ritztech> hmm is there a way to pull data from a perl query that was on a web page im trying the w3m
[23:26] <maco> ritztech: i suspect you want to learn to use curl magic
[23:26] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 and crew.. thanks.. I am up and running and now playing with installing apps and learning this interface.. cuz I will have to support Ubuntu at work soon
[23:26] <denverdave> later
[23:27] <ritztech> curl majic haha
[23:27] <erUSUL> ritztech: wget or curl if you d not wont to view it
[23:27] <maco> tripel-livecd: ps, you said "her"?  do you know about the Ubuntu Women project?
[23:27] <maco> tripel-livecd: http://women.ubuntu.com
[23:27] <ritztech> well i want to view it but bash some output so its easier to view via CLI then web page
[23:28] <floating> friend is trying to get some libraries, but he has trouble getting it to the .bashrc... he tried  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the .bashrc, but his .bashrc is not executing
[23:29] <erUSUL> floating: putting . dot in a PATH variable is a bad idea...
[23:29] <tripel-livecd> One more thing maco aeon-ltd  - about "primary" (vs extended>logical) partitions. Must a disk have a primary. must the system be on a primary? do *I* need to make a partition for /boot?  -- I have old hard drives with data, saved things photos etc -- that I havent looked at for a while and I want to organize, sort and merge. Should these be on a separate partition?
[23:29] <maco> tripel-livecd: linux doesnt care if its on primary. windows does
[23:29] <gafir> hello, what program would you recommend to make loose diagrams / brainstorming?
[23:29] <floating> erUSUL: he tried to put some echo text in the .bashrc and that didin't work either
[23:30] <maco> gafir: i hear freemind is good
[23:30] <tripel-livecd> maco, why should women not be in the regular group? I'll go look at it.
[23:30] <erUSUL> floating: how he is testing the modifications ?? sourcing bashrc ? opening a new shell ?
[23:30] <floating> he connects with putty. relogins
[23:30] <floating> a user account, not admin
[23:31] <maco> tripel-livecd: its not separatist. there are members of UW on many of the major boards in ubuntu (i'm on a regional membership board), but it's a nice group to get support within the community
[23:31] <toni> alguien habla español
[23:31] <gafir> maco: I'll check it out thx
[23:31] <maco> !es | toni
[23:32] <ritztech> WHOA curl is NICE
[23:33] <wizzo50> Can you use NetFlex on Ubuntu?
[23:34] <wizzo50> sebsebseb
[23:34] <maco> wizzo50: netflix?
[23:34] <wizzo50> Yea
[23:34] <wizzo50> Mispelled, sorry
[23:34] <maco> wizzo50: the instant watch thing?  no. that has DRM--technology made to prevent "unauthorized" people from viewing (and they consider linux users unauthorized)
[23:34] <geazzy> halo
[23:35] <wizzo50> maco so i can't watch movies on here from it?
[23:35] <ritztech> seems like im gonna have to learn ALOT of AWK
[23:35] <ritztech> unless theres a better verion of curl
[23:35] <ritztech> haha
[23:35] <maco> wizzo50: if theyre on DVD sure, but not instant watch
[23:35] <wizzo50> maco No plug-ins or anything
[23:36] <hagabaka> ritztech: what do you need to do with awk and curl?
[23:36] <maco> wizzo50: the necessary plugin (moonlight, to replace microsoft's silverlight) exists.  however, you need a special encryption key to view netflix instant watch, and they only share that key with microsoft
[23:37] <wizzo50> maco/ Yea I know that, but didn't know if we can watch straight through them on here. Do they plan to set it up for that in the future?
[23:37] <LinuxPhreak> Does anyone know how I can setup PXE booting with an ISO image stored on a hostgator shared hosting account?
[23:37] <Iceman_B> if I'm setting up a new system and I want to be able to enforce quota's for users, how do I go about  it?
[23:37] <maco> wizzo50: ask netflix.  write to them and tell them DRM is evil
[23:37] <ritztech> im building a script to take some things out of a WEb page and doing llike Showing configuration files // Neighboring sites and Curling the output but then somehow grepping out lines that Match certiain words and such
[23:37] <hagabaka> oh
[23:38] <wizzo50> Maco, thanks anyway
[23:38] <hagabaka> I think a parser would be better for HTML/XML, but I don't know much about awk
[23:38] <tlarson> what's the command to find out what package a file was installed from?
[23:39] <hagabaka> tlarson: dpkg -S
[23:40] <steve__> ritztech, I cant really advise on what to use but I can say for sure that there must be a better option than awk/sed. I tried doing just that a couple of days ago and the result wasnt pretty!
[23:40] <tlarson> hagabaka: thanks
[23:40] <iceroot> tlarson: dpkg -S if the package is installed, apt-file if you want to search in packages which are not installed
[23:40] <ritztech> script is in bash so i basically want to CURL a site and get info out of what was from a query of a site taht the user generated from the CLI to query the site it self ... then display what i want to see as the output
[23:40] <erUSUL> ritztech: use w3m -dump to output plain text
[23:41] <maco> ritztech: i recommend python's xml.dom if you're parsing html. also, BeautifulSoup.py if the html isnt well-formed xml
[23:41] <ritztech> instead of bash
[23:41] <ritztech> use some sort of python script
[23:42] <steve__> erUSUL, Thanks for that! I will use that one in future!
[23:43] <erUSUL> steve__: no problem
[23:43] <Iceman_B> can I mount an entire hdd into an already existing and populated folder ?
[23:43] <Iceman_B> if so, what would happen? would all the files from the other hdd simply appear in the existing dir?
[23:44] <erUSUL> Iceman_B: yes; but the files witihng the folder would not be visible
[23:44] <Iceman_B> erUSUL: oh
[23:44] <tensorpudding> Iceman_B: unionfs
[23:44] <Iceman_B> tensorpudding: no clue what that is, but I'll look into it
[23:44] <live> bot
[23:44] <Iceman_B> maybe i should just create another dir and mount the drive there
[23:45] <erUSUL> Iceman_B: you will see the contents of the disk on the folder if any, the existing files will be inaccessible
[23:45] <trelayne> anyone know how to change the password from the command line?
[23:45] <tensorpudding> I think it allows you to have a filesystem mounted on top of another and have both of the files visible
[23:45] <erUSUL> trelayne: passwd
[23:45] <trelayne> ok thanks
[23:46] <suprengr> Assuming a lot of users are using xchat... question: what does the orange dot against a nick [in user list] mean?  No answer found on xchat help.
[23:46]  * Iceman_B uses irssi
[23:47] <chrOnik> irssi >
[23:47] <ubunt1> When I minimize a window its name gets brackets. Is there anyway to disable this?
[23:47] <tensorpudding> Probably not
[23:47] <erUSUL> suprengr: which user?
[23:47] <ubunt1> How can I set a shortcut to minimize all windows?
[23:48] <steve__> Does anyone have any good suggestions for a password management solution for ubuntu-server? I have been mounting a encrypted image of a filesystem onto /mnt. Its not very elegant - Any suggestions?
[23:48] <tensorpudding> There is already a Show Desktop button
[23:48] <live> learn
[23:48] <ubunt1> tensorpudding: I mean a keyboard shortcut.
[23:48] <erUSUL> suprengr: maybe it shows op / voice  ?
[23:49] <tensorpudding> Ctrl + Alt + d
[23:49] <live> where can I go to learn about IRC
[23:49] <ubunt1> live: Thanks!
[23:49] <erUSUL> !irc
[23:49] <suprengr> erUSUL: several [20ish] in #ubuntu beginners
[23:49] <erUSUL> suprengr: voice
[23:49] <live> !irc
[23:49] <suprengr> erUSUL: green blob seems to denote that
[23:50] <erUSUL> suprengr: then i dunno ;P i use irssi
[23:50] <kisplit> erUSUL: Do you know how to ignore joins and parts with irssi?
[23:51] <kisplit> erUSUL: They're really annoying on this channel :p
[23:51] <erUSUL> !quietirssi
[23:51] <kisplit> erUSUL: Thanks :)
[23:51] <erUSUL> !botsnack
[23:52] <chrOnik> i'v been messing and, on google for hours, lol can anyone help to get 1920x1080 with a ATi Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] my monitor supports this mode but its not showing :/
[23:53] <mxtr> edit xorg.conf
[23:53] <chrOnik> i did
[23:53] <suprengr> Iceman_B: just seen your line... "uses irssi",,, was that meant as answer to mine?  If so...   cheers & thanks
[23:53] <chrOnik> its showing 1920x1080 in there..
[23:54] <mxtr> make surge youve got the right driver installed
[23:54] <chrOnik> yeh tbh im not even sure what one i have
[23:54] <chrOnik> how can i find out mxtr ?
[23:54] <Iceman_B> suprengr: it kinda was, it was also me being smug :) dont mind, im using irssi because im running on a headless, GUIless machine
[23:55] <mxtr> see xorg.conf
[23:55] <mxtr> it must be in there
[23:55] <suprengr> Iceman_B:  :)
[23:55] <Karen_m> chrOnik, system->administration->hardware drivers (you can install the driver here, should be able to, I do it with nvidia)
[23:55] <floating> friend tries to execute a program through screen, but also he has to set some LD_LIBRARY_PATH with export. He uses .bash_profile file to do it, however the paths are not run when he does screen ./balle
[23:56] <mxtr> which version of ubuntu do you have?
[23:56] <chrOnik> im looking at xorg.conf now
[23:56] <chrOnik> want me to pastebin to see if u can find any faults?
[23:56] <erUSUL> floating: profile is only read on login
[23:56] <mxtr> yea you can
[23:56] <kisplit> Say I want to use the find command for a particular file and then grep that file for a particular phrase. Is this easy to do in one command stroke?
[23:56] <floating> erUSUL: ok. do you know how to do it
[23:57] <erUSUL> kisplit: bashrc ?
[23:57] <kisplit> erUSUL: I'm sorry, I'm fairly new. What is bashrc?
[23:57] <erUSUL> kisplit: find dir/ -name 'pattern' -exec grep pattern '{}' \;
[23:57] <chrOnik> here, http://pastebin.com/ec9ah1gu
[23:58] <floating> erUSUL: was that bashrc? directed to me ?
[23:58] <erUSUL> kisplit: ~/.bashrc ? ~/.profile
[23:58] <floating> ah ok :s
[23:58] <tensorpudding> bashrc is the configuration file for bash
[23:58] <kisplit> erUSUL: Ahhhh thanks again!
[23:58] <kisplit> tensorpudding: Thanks for the info too :)
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> .bashrc is ranevery time you start up a new bash  shell Normally.
[23:58] <tensorpudding> read the manpage for more information on the difference between .bash_profile and .bashrc
[23:59] <tensorpudding> and /etc/profile also
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> I think by default its .profile   .bash_profile is emoptuy
[23:59] <kisplit> tensorpudding: man bash?
[23:59] <tensorpudding> yeah
[23:59] <floating> how can I export a ld_library_path when i run screen ./something
[23:59] <kisplit> gotcha got a lot of reading to do haha. I'll be back ;)
[23:59] <floating> so it is exported there.. exporting it during login in bash_profile won't do it