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xubuntu374hello00:04
xubuntu374i am installing xubuntu and would like to know if brazilian portuguese is completelly suported00:05
xubuntu374because the trial mode is in portugal portuguese and english00:05
xubuntu374anyone knows and use this language?00:07
well_laid_lawnthere's a brazilian channel where you can ask00:07
well_laid_lawn!br00:07
ubottuEntre em #ubuntu-br usando /join #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.00:07
xubuntu374thanks00:08
well_laid_lawnnp :]00:13
ToStItOsI have two computers networked together. The problem I having is before I was sharing an internet connection with both computers , one computer has Windows Xp the other is Xubuntu 8.10. I cannot get Xubuntu to share the connection. How do fix this?01:48
psycho_oreoswhy are you using 8.10?01:48
ToStItOsI haven't updated01:51
ToStItOsI recently received broadband and I'm trying to update but I can't get Xubuntu to network. When I open firefox I get that message saying to check DNS settings01:52
ToStItOsI know it would be easier to just install  9.10 but I can't get Xubuntu to network. Should I just do clean install of 9.10?01:54
psycho_oreosmight be more ideal to go with the latest unless you like to meddle with command line01:56
ToStItOsNot really I think I have had my fill with that too many times01:57
psycho_oreoswhich? command line?01:57
ToStItOsYeah01:57
ToStItOsCommand line gives me headaches01:58
ToStItOsWhats the latest version01:58
psycho_oreosI think its a little more easier with later versions anyway.. I'm too used to command line stuff so versions are literally un-important to me01:58
psycho_oreos10.04 afaik01:58
ToStItOsI wouldn't make it a big deal but I haven't mess command line too much. What I am trying to do is I have USB data card modem and I'm trying to network my windows computer and Xubuntu to network so I can share the connection. The data card only supports Windows Xp02:01
psycho_oreosoh wait you mean windows as host and xubuntu as client/guest?02:01
ToStItOsYeah02:01
psycho_oreossounds easy enough imo, you just need to setup ICS or whatever it is on windows and then have xubuntu get dhcp and what not from windows02:02
ToStItOsSo I guess just download 10.04 on my windows computer then install on Xubuntu to do a clean install02:03
ToStItOsI'll just do that I was going to do a clean install of 9.1002:04
psycho_oreoswait wait.. if you want windows to serve the connection and you don't want to meddle with sharing from linux then leave windows as it is on there02:04
ToStItOsI am I just want the nic cards to communicate right now that's not happening02:06
ToStItOsIts a wired connection02:06
psycho_oreosyou need a crossover cable if its computer->computer02:06
ToStItOsIts already connected02:07
psycho_oreosand the LED on the nic ports are lit?02:07
ToStItOsYeah I just can't access the internet from the Xubuntu end02:08
ToStItOsI ran the network wizard in Windows and still no luck02:08
psycho_oreoswell if you ran the wizard I think windows should tell you how to setup other machines, and you should just follow that02:09
ToStItOsI did but when I try to open firefox the message I get is address not found02:10
psycho_oreoswait, did the linux box get dhcp lease from windows?02:11
ToStItOsI think how do I check that02:12
psycho_oreoscheck under network manager on xubuntu02:12
ToStItOslet me check02:12
psycho_oreosright click on it and click on connection information02:13
ToStItOsI don't have network manager02:13
psycho_oreoshmm so what do you use as front end? wicd?02:13
ToStItOsAre you talking about where my wired connection is configured02:14
ToStItOswhere the Vpn connections are02:15
psycho_oreosnot exactly on configured, just seeing if it has its own ip address, routing and dns setup02:15
ToStItOslet me see ...02:15
ToStItOsYou mean network connections window02:16
psycho_oreoswait that is network manager.. what happens if you right click on the icon?02:17
ToStItOsshows if the connection is enabled02:17
psycho_oreosthat is all?02:17
ToStItOsenable networking, connection information edit connections02:18
psycho_oreosconnection information02:19
psycho_oreosthat is the one we're after02:19
ToStItOsbut is not highlighted02:19
psycho_oreosin other words it greyed out?02:19
ToStItOsyeah02:20
psycho_oreoshmm.. but the icon shows that its configured right?02:21
psycho_oreoserr connected02:21
tesujihi - will anything break if i disable gvfs?  and how would i do it?02:21
ToStItOsDhcp is set at automatic02:21
psycho_oreosyeah but that isn't particularly helpful02:22
psycho_oreosits not about the configuration its about the results02:22
psycho_oreoshang on02:22
bazhang!crosspost | tesuji02:22
ubottutesuji: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.02:22
ToStItOsEverything is configured02:22
psycho_oreosI need pastebin output of this: ifconfig| grep inet && route && cat /etc/resolv.conf02:23
ToStItOsok hang on02:24
ToStItOsinet6 addr: fe80::213:21ff:fef7:1468/64 Scope:Link02:25
ToStItOs          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.002:25
ToStItOs          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host02:25
ToStItOs          inet addr:4.231.94.35  P-t-P:209.247.21.19  Mask:255.255.255.25502:25
ToStItOsKernel IP routing table02:25
ToStItOsDestination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface02:25
ToStItOsnas22.2la1.Leve *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp002:25
ToStItOsdefault         *               0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp002:25
ToStItOsnameserver 207.69.188.18702:25
ToStItOsnameserver 207.69.188.18602:25
psycho_oreosI meant pastebin not paste02:25
ToStItOs# Generated by NetworkManager02:25
ToStItOshow do I do that02:25
psycho_oreosits too late for that now but fyi...02:25
psycho_oreos!pastebin | ToStItOs02:25
ubottuToStItOs: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:25
psycho_oreosis your windows box using ipv6 as well?02:26
ToStItOsNot sure02:26
psycho_oreosgo into command line of windows and type in ipconfig /all02:26
ToStItOsok give me a sec02:27
tesujiToStItOs, "apt-get install pastebinit" then to use it pipe your output and pastebinit returns a url - easier than the ubuttu way02:27
psycho_oreoshe's not familiar with CLI so it'll probably mean more work learning that as well02:28
ToStItOsjust says Windows ip configuration02:30
psycho_oreosyeah below that would tell you02:30
psycho_oreosor you can just paste the output into pastebin02:30
ToStItOsits not showing anything02:32
psycho_oreosweird even though its meant to show you something02:33
ToStItOsI know02:34
psycho_oreoslol that's windows for you :P ok I'd check on windows to see if ipv6 is enabled, from memory for windows xp right click on the adapter click on properties and see if there's ipv6 in there02:34
ToStItOsok  give me a minute02:35
ToStItOsI have looked and I don't even see an option02:46
psycho_oreosok so its not enabled, if so then ipv6 under ubuntu should be disabled as well02:47
psycho_oreoss/ubuntu/xubuntu/02:47
psycho_oreoswait.. you're not making any sense here02:47
ToStItOsWindows Doesn.t give you the option nor do I see anything that says IPV602:49
psycho_oreoswindows does give you the option, its under add protocol.. but I now want to ask, what exactly is your definition of usb data card? is this for wireless/mobile/cellular internet?02:50
ToStItOsyes cellular broadband02:51
psycho_oreosjudging from your initial paste, the device is plugged onto the linux box not the windows box... which contradicts what you said about that usb data card only working for windows when its working under linux.. and it seems like you want to bridge the connection from your linux machine to windows machine no?02:52
ToStItOswhere is add protocol?02:52
psycho_oreosits in there somewhere but that's not relevant now02:53
ToStItOsok02:53
ToStItOsWell before Broadband Iwas trying to share dial up and it worked before02:55
psycho_oreosyeah I was getting confused on what you want to achieve.. right now the `cellular broadband' is connected to the linux machine and appears to be partially working02:56
ToStItOsWell everything was working at one point with sharing the dial up connection. Before I had broadband I tried to share one last time and I could never get the internet to share so now I have broadband and yes the connections are not bridged02:59
psycho_oreosand you can't surf the net it appears with linux.. if that's the case I can see why.. there's no default gw set02:59
ToStItOsWhat does that mean03:00
psycho_oreosit means there's no default gateway, or no ip/host to connect to03:01
ToStItOsSo how do I fix it through windows or03:02
psycho_oreosroute add default gw `route -n| grep UH| awk '{FS=" "; print $1}'`03:02
psycho_oreosyou can only fix it through linux, windows has no access to linux machine furthermore windows can't talk to linux yet03:03
ToStItOsDo I copy and paste all or where do I start the copy03:04
psycho_oreosyou copy that line starting from (and including) route right to the last (and including) backtick03:05
ToStItOsthen what03:06
psycho_oreospastebin me your ifconfig -a && route03:07
ToStItOstype that command here or03:08
psycho_oreosthat command goes into terminal/console and the output goes onto website pastebin03:09
ToStItOs-a && route03:09
psycho_oreos!pastebin03:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:09
ToStItOsok03:10
ToStItOsI typed the command but now what do I need to do03:12
psycho_oreoscopy and paste the output03:12
psycho_oreosinto a website called pastebin03:12
psycho_oreosread above for links03:12
ToStItOsI didn't get a output03:12
ToStItOsI type that command and nothing03:13
psycho_oreos"ifconfig -a && route" (without quotes)03:13
ToStItOsok got it now03:14
ToStItOsSo paste it on the website03:15
psycho_oreosyes03:15
ToStItOsok03:15
ToStItOsok done03:16
psycho_oreosnow paste me the new link from the address bar03:16
ToStItOshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/03:21
psycho_oreosthat's the wrong link03:21
psycho_oreosit should be something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/xxxxxxxxxx03:21
ToStItOsthats all the address bar says03:23
ToStItOsYou want me to try it again03:24
psycho_oreosyes.. you should paste it and if there's post/submit or whatever other button, do press it03:25
ToStItOsok03:25
ToStItOshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/474752/03:26
psycho_oreosthere03:26
ToStItOsI was forgetting to put my name on it03:27
psycho_oreostry this: sudo route add default gw `route -n| grep UH| awk '{FS=" "; print $1}'`03:27
psycho_oreosbefore you do..03:27
ToStItOsok03:28
psycho_oreosexactly on which machine are you connected and talking to me through now?03:28
ToStItOslinux03:28
ToStItOsok03:30
psycho_oreosso you're talking to me right now on linux, the one with the `cellular broadband' connected right? you should also be able to surf websites?03:30
ToStItOsThe modem is does not support Xubuntu or linux I have dial up at the moment03:31
psycho_oreosisn't the modem `cellular broadband'?03:31
ToStItOsI still have dial up but I can't use the modem data card on this computer because the data card only supports windows Xp03:32
ToStItOsunless there is a way to configure to work with Linux03:32
psycho_oreosthere should be but it depends on the chipset.. ok.. so as I understand now you have both dialup (56k) and `cellular broadband' right?03:33
ToStItOsYes03:33
psycho_oreosand the `cellular broadband' is connected to windows machine which has ICS enabled right?03:34
ToStItOsI don't think the broadband connection is shared let me check but I don't think it is03:34
ToStItOsI didn't bridge the connections03:35
psycho_oreosyou said before you used ICS03:35
psycho_oreoswell yeah you'll need to bridge it03:35
ToStItOswith dial up03:35
ToStItOsok03:35
ToStItOsSo I need to run the network wizard then03:36
psycho_oreosno you'll need to bridge cellular broadband with the wired interface on windows03:36
psycho_oreosor yes whatever it is on windows03:36
ToStItOsok that won't interfere with the command you gave me right?03:36
psycho_oreoswhich command?03:37
ToStItOsThe one you gave me for the gw03:37
psycho_oreosdon't worry about it, no it won't affect it03:38
ToStItOsok be right back03:38
ToStItOsI selected Mobile broadband for the connection03:41
ToStItOsICS enable03:41
ToStItOsthat should work03:42
psycho_oreosdid windows wizard tool tell you anything else about setting up the clients?03:43
ToStItOsWell I had to enable ICS so now should I disconnect dial up and try the broadband03:50
psycho_oreosyeah just set it so that linux gets the dhcp stuff off windows03:51
franciscoHello, good afternoon. I just initialized my computer and I can't see the menus that were normally on top screen. Someone knows what happend or what should I do? Thanks =)14:48
charlie-tcadid the panel disappear or just the menu?14:49
franciscoHmm.. Well, both I think. There's only the desktop thing, there were normally things at down side and top.. but they disappeard =/ I Don't know what to do, I was installing a thing before close cpu but I didn't delete anything.14:50
TheSheep!panels14:50
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/14:50
charlie-tcaGood morning, TheSheep14:51
franciscoubottu thanks so much!14:51
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:51
franciscoIt worked! =)14:51
franciscoOh kk o.o xD14:51
franciscoThank you too "TheSheep" =)14:51
franciscoGood luck, and thanks! =)14:52
TheSheephi charlie-tca14:54
xxx_ooo_xxxwith dual monitors, anyone know how to get twinview/grandr to see the middle of my primary monitor as "center" not the center of the extended desktop16:33
tesujihi - the quit button (upper right) only quits the panel - does not log me out, does not shut down the machine - then i gotta go to a term and run xfce4-panel.  the config options available for the quest button are: quit (the panel) and lock the screen.  how can add more options (especially options that might be useful)?17:05
TheSheeptesuji: you can't, and it does quit xfce if it has been started with xfce, not as standalone app17:08
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ToStItOsHow do I restore my network settings for Xubuntu 8.1017:54
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ToStItOsTo default17:55
charlie-tca8.10?17:55
charlie-tca!versions17:55
ToStItOsyeah I know long story17:55
charlie-tca8.10 is obsolete, you know17:55
ToStItOsI know should I just do a clean install of 9.10?17:56
charlie-tcaor 10.0417:56
charlie-tcaTry the live cd first, to make sure it works.17:56
ToStItOsI don't have access to 10.0417:56
charlie-tca!releases17:56
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases17:56
ToStItOsWhich version has LTS currently17:57
charlie-tca10.0417:57
ToStItOsreally hmmm how does LTS work another words updates and compared to regular releases is it a better option or17:58
charlie-tcaIt works the same way, but it is good for three years as a desktop installation, 5 years as a server without the gui18:00
charlie-tcaStandard releases are good for 18 months18:00
charlie-tcaSo, if you don't want to have to upgrade the isntallation often, LTS is a very good choice18:01
ToStItOsyeah LTS would be better for me but you do get the same updates as you would regular releases right?18:02
charlie-tcayes18:05
charlie-tcaJust for a longer period of time18:05
charlie-tcaand, you can upgrade LTS to LTS, too18:05
ToStItOsOk I think i will do that how do I get a disc18:06
ToStItOsor should I just download it with my windows computer18:06
charlie-tcadownload it with windows, then burn the image to cd18:06
ToStItOsI finally have broadband but I have cellular broadband which my max speeds are 115k18:07
ToStItOsHow long will it take with that speed18:08
charlie-tcaI don't know18:09
ToStItOsI'll try it and see18:09
ToStItOsWhats new with 10.04 ???18:10
charlie-tcahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/LucidLynx/Final18:11
ToStItOsThanks for the help Charlie18:11
charlie-tcaYou are welcome18:11
Sir_obihi all i need help with wine18:16
charlie-tca!wine18:18
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu18:18
Sir_obithx18:19
charlie-tcaYou are welcome18:19
xubuntu309sup?18:47
SandGorgonhi guys.. does latest thunar support smb paths ?19:07
TheSheepNot the one in xubuntu, there is gigolo for that though19:13
TheSheep!gigolo19:13
Sysi!info gigolo19:14
ubottugigolo (source: gigolo): frontend to manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVfs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-1 (lucid), package size 129 kB, installed size 716 kB19:14
Sysidoes it support browsing shares?19:14
TheSheepSysi: that's what it's for, mainly19:37
TheSheepSysi: all it does is browsing shares and mounting them19:38
TheSheepSysi: with smbfs19:38
slow-motionn820:38
tesujiTheSheep, http://wiki.xfce.org/faq says different (see "logout problems") but I can't figure what the cause is.20:41
tesujiTheSheep, i fingered it out from reading .xsession-errors - i had disabled gnome-keyring-daemon by linking it to /bin/true :-)  but i still need to disable the daemon and i have selected the option to not use it in one of the system settings.  advice appreciated!20:51
TheSheeptesuji: sorry, that ice/auth/session thing is black magic to me20:52
TheSheeptesuji: it's one of the reasons why I didn't throw gdm away20:53
tesujido you know how to stop the keyring daemon20:53
TheSheeptesuji: (I have set it to autologin and lock screen immediately anyways)20:53
TheSheepno20:53
tesujii want to autoconnect to the wifi without asking for a password20:54
TheSheepxubuntu can do that out of the box20:55
TheSheepjust set empty password for the keyrong20:55
TheSheepkeyring20:55
doug__where do i change xorg.conf in xubuntu?21:21
doug__i got 1024 screen, but its buggy21:21
doug__wanna try the vesa one21:21
TheSheepwell, you can just create it21:21
TheSheepnormally there is none, but it works if you create it21:22
doug__hm. worried about creating one from scratch21:22
TheSheepit's not rocket science, man xorg.conf gives you the format21:23
doug__i got onboard video, installed xubunto cause its light, but the video is crappy21:23
TheSheepdoug__: did you try going to system->hardware drivers?21:23
doug__yes, theres nothing21:23
TheSheepdoug__: maybe you can install binary drivers for your card21:23
TheSheepah, ok21:23
doug__http://pastebin.com/tkKdqqeW21:25
doug__check my lspci21:25
doug__i dunno if theres a driver for my video card21:25
TheSheepugh, S321:27
TheSheepmaybe search the forums21:27
doug__auehuahe21:28
doug__god save me21:29
doug__first search "xxx dont display properly on xubuntu" :(21:31
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Gundamathey guys im having trouble installing xubuntu. is someone here who can help me?23:03
well_laid_lawnit all depends on what the trouble is :]23:04
Sysi58:123:04
Sysii'd try23:04
Gundamatim trying to install it from the alternate CD but all i get is this crappy image23:04
Gundamathttp://img3.imagebanana.com/img/9s0d0wi8/screen.png23:04
Gundamatthe menu where i can select the language still works fine but when i select install xubuntu it all gets fucked up23:05
Sysiwhat kind of machine you're installling to?23:05
Gundamatecs green32023:06
Gundamatan old laptop with 1,2ghz via cpu and 512mb ram23:06
Sysihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86600023:08
well_laid_lawnmore then likely it has via graphics - can you run   lspci | grep -i vga   in a tty?23:08
well_laid_lawnk :]23:08
Sysisome distro, at least gentoo should work..23:09
Gundamatyeah i managed to get arch linux running but i hoped that xubuntu would work too23:10
Gundamathow should i get into a tty?23:10
well_laid_lawnctrl+alt+f2   and login23:11
well_laid_lawnalt+f7 to get back23:11
Gundamatwell i cant even install it so getting to the login is a bit difficult23:11
Sysilscpu would tell if it's about cpu23:11
well_laid_lawnheh23:11
Sysiyou deleted arch?23:12
Gundamatyeah23:12
Gundamatinstalled windows for some other stuff23:12
Gundamatbtw i think when installing arch i had a similar problem but setting vga=771 as a boot parameter helped23:13
Gundamatanyway when i tried that with xubuntu the monitor doesnt show an image at all23:13
Sysiyou could check what it has inside from windows?23:17
Gundamatok23:19
well_laid_lawnseems it has a via graphics card and I can't find a boot time parameter you can pass for the via chip to work23:20
well_laid_lawnsome old laptops seem to need the   nopic nolapic   boot parameter23:23
well_laid_lawnsome old laptops seem to need the   noapic nolapic   boot parameter23:23
Gundamatthe graphics chip is called "VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP"23:24
Gundamatok thanks ill try that out23:24
well_laid_lawnfound this - http://www.mail-archive.com/plug@lists.linux.org.ph/msg13332.html - so it should work23:24
Sysiwell_laid_lawn: did you check my url?23:25
well_laid_lawnSysi: the forum link? - yep23:25
Sysiit's not gonna boot with any graphics card if it can't run kernel, but i'm not sure if arch should work then23:26
Gundamatsetting noapic and nolapic didnt help23:26
Gundamatmaybe they removed the support for it from the kernel?23:26
Sysithat just pops up the question that support for that should have been removed just from next buntu, 10.1023:27
Sysidoes it have that via c3 cpu?23:28
Gundamatyep23:28
Sysiso *buntu would run it only on custom kernel23:28
Sysiinstallation maybe possible with debootstrap but that's just not ubuntu at all23:29
Gundamatso i gues im going to install arch again, thanks for the help anyway23:30
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ToStItOsdoes anybody know anything about 3G cellular broadband23:46

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