[00:04] <xubuntu374> hello
[00:05] <xubuntu374> i am installing xubuntu and would like to know if brazilian portuguese is completelly suported
[00:05] <xubuntu374> because the trial mode is in portugal portuguese and english
[00:07] <xubuntu374> anyone knows and use this language?
[00:07] <well_laid_lawn> there's a brazilian channel where you can ask
[00:07] <well_laid_lawn> !br
[00:08] <xubuntu374> thanks
[00:13] <well_laid_lawn> np :]
[01:48] <ToStItOs> I have two computers networked together. The problem I having is before I was sharing an internet connection with both computers , one computer has Windows Xp the other is Xubuntu 8.10. I cannot get Xubuntu to share the connection. How do fix this?
[01:48] <psycho_oreos> why are you using 8.10?
[01:51] <ToStItOs> I haven't updated
[01:52] <ToStItOs> I recently received broadband and I'm trying to update but I can't get Xubuntu to network. When I open firefox I get that message saying to check DNS settings
[01:54] <ToStItOs> I know it would be easier to just install  9.10 but I can't get Xubuntu to network. Should I just do clean install of 9.10?
[01:56] <psycho_oreos> might be more ideal to go with the latest unless you like to meddle with command line
[01:57] <ToStItOs> Not really I think I have had my fill with that too many times
[01:57] <psycho_oreos> which? command line?
[01:57] <ToStItOs> Yeah
[01:58] <ToStItOs> Command line gives me headaches
[01:58] <ToStItOs> Whats the latest version
[01:58] <psycho_oreos> I think its a little more easier with later versions anyway.. I'm too used to command line stuff so versions are literally un-important to me
[01:58] <psycho_oreos> 10.04 afaik
[02:01] <ToStItOs> I wouldn't make it a big deal but I haven't mess command line too much. What I am trying to do is I have USB data card modem and I'm trying to network my windows computer and Xubuntu to network so I can share the connection. The data card only supports Windows Xp
[02:01] <psycho_oreos> oh wait you mean windows as host and xubuntu as client/guest?
[02:01] <ToStItOs> Yeah
[02:02] <psycho_oreos> sounds easy enough imo, you just need to setup ICS or whatever it is on windows and then have xubuntu get dhcp and what not from windows
[02:03] <ToStItOs> So I guess just download 10.04 on my windows computer then install on Xubuntu to do a clean install
[02:04] <ToStItOs> I'll just do that I was going to do a clean install of 9.10
[02:04] <psycho_oreos> wait wait.. if you want windows to serve the connection and you don't want to meddle with sharing from linux then leave windows as it is on there
[02:06] <ToStItOs> I am I just want the nic cards to communicate right now that's not happening
[02:06] <ToStItOs> Its a wired connection
[02:06] <psycho_oreos> you need a crossover cable if its computer->computer
[02:07] <ToStItOs> Its already connected
[02:07] <psycho_oreos> and the LED on the nic ports are lit?
[02:08] <ToStItOs> Yeah I just can't access the internet from the Xubuntu end
[02:08] <ToStItOs> I ran the network wizard in Windows and still no luck
[02:09] <psycho_oreos> well if you ran the wizard I think windows should tell you how to setup other machines, and you should just follow that
[02:10] <ToStItOs> I did but when I try to open firefox the message I get is address not found
[02:11] <psycho_oreos> wait, did the linux box get dhcp lease from windows?
[02:12] <ToStItOs> I think how do I check that
[02:12] <psycho_oreos> check under network manager on xubuntu
[02:12] <ToStItOs> let me check
[02:13] <psycho_oreos> right click on it and click on connection information
[02:13] <ToStItOs> I don't have network manager
[02:13] <psycho_oreos> hmm so what do you use as front end? wicd?
[02:14] <ToStItOs> Are you talking about where my wired connection is configured
[02:15] <ToStItOs> where the Vpn connections are
[02:15] <psycho_oreos> not exactly on configured, just seeing if it has its own ip address, routing and dns setup
[02:15] <ToStItOs> let me see ...
[02:16] <ToStItOs> You mean network connections window
[02:17] <psycho_oreos> wait that is network manager.. what happens if you right click on the icon?
[02:17] <ToStItOs> shows if the connection is enabled
[02:17] <psycho_oreos> that is all?
[02:18] <ToStItOs> enable networking, connection information edit connections
[02:19] <psycho_oreos> connection information
[02:19] <psycho_oreos> that is the one we're after
[02:19] <ToStItOs> but is not highlighted
[02:19] <psycho_oreos> in other words it greyed out?
[02:20] <ToStItOs> yeah
[02:21] <psycho_oreos> hmm.. but the icon shows that its configured right?
[02:21] <psycho_oreos> err connected
[02:21] <tesuji> hi - will anything break if i disable gvfs?  and how would i do it?
[02:21] <ToStItOs> Dhcp is set at automatic
[02:22] <psycho_oreos> yeah but that isn't particularly helpful
[02:22] <psycho_oreos> its not about the configuration its about the results
[02:22] <psycho_oreos> hang on
[02:22] <bazhang> !crosspost | tesuji
[02:22] <ToStItOs> Everything is configured
[02:23] <psycho_oreos> I need pastebin output of this: ifconfig| grep inet && route && cat /etc/resolv.conf
[02:24] <ToStItOs> ok hang on
[02:25] <ToStItOs> inet6 addr: fe80::213:21ff:fef7:1468/64 Scope:Link
[02:25] <ToStItOs>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[02:25] <ToStItOs>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[02:25] <ToStItOs>           inet addr:4.231.94.35  P-t-P:209.247.21.19  Mask:255.255.255.255
[02:25] <ToStItOs> Kernel IP routing table
[02:25] <ToStItOs> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[02:25] <ToStItOs> nas22.2la1.Leve *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[02:25] <ToStItOs> default         *               0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp0
[02:25] <ToStItOs> nameserver 207.69.188.187
[02:25] <ToStItOs> nameserver 207.69.188.186
[02:25] <psycho_oreos> I meant pastebin not paste
[02:25] <ToStItOs> # Generated by NetworkManager
[02:25] <ToStItOs> how do I do that
[02:25] <psycho_oreos> its too late for that now but fyi...
[02:25] <psycho_oreos> !pastebin | ToStItOs
[02:26] <psycho_oreos> is your windows box using ipv6 as well?
[02:26] <ToStItOs> Not sure
[02:26] <psycho_oreos> go into command line of windows and type in ipconfig /all
[02:27] <ToStItOs> ok give me a sec
[02:27] <tesuji> ToStItOs, "apt-get install pastebinit" then to use it pipe your output and pastebinit returns a url - easier than the ubuttu way
[02:28] <psycho_oreos> he's not familiar with CLI so it'll probably mean more work learning that as well
[02:30] <ToStItOs> just says Windows ip configuration
[02:30] <psycho_oreos> yeah below that would tell you
[02:30] <psycho_oreos> or you can just paste the output into pastebin
[02:32] <ToStItOs> its not showing anything
[02:33] <psycho_oreos> weird even though its meant to show you something
[02:34] <ToStItOs> I know
[02:34] <psycho_oreos> lol that's windows for you :P ok I'd check on windows to see if ipv6 is enabled, from memory for windows xp right click on the adapter click on properties and see if there's ipv6 in there
[02:35] <ToStItOs> ok  give me a minute
[02:46] <ToStItOs> I have looked and I don't even see an option
[02:47] <psycho_oreos> ok so its not enabled, if so then ipv6 under ubuntu should be disabled as well
[02:47] <psycho_oreos> s/ubuntu/xubuntu/
[02:47] <psycho_oreos> wait.. you're not making any sense here
[02:49] <ToStItOs> Windows Doesn.t give you the option nor do I see anything that says IPV6
[02:50] <psycho_oreos> windows does give you the option, its under add protocol.. but I now want to ask, what exactly is your definition of usb data card? is this for wireless/mobile/cellular internet?
[02:51] <ToStItOs> yes cellular broadband
[02:52] <psycho_oreos> judging from your initial paste, the device is plugged onto the linux box not the windows box... which contradicts what you said about that usb data card only working for windows when its working under linux.. and it seems like you want to bridge the connection from your linux machine to windows machine no?
[02:52] <ToStItOs> where is add protocol?
[02:53] <psycho_oreos> its in there somewhere but that's not relevant now
[02:53] <ToStItOs> ok
[02:55] <ToStItOs> Well before Broadband Iwas trying to share dial up and it worked before
[02:56] <psycho_oreos> yeah I was getting confused on what you want to achieve.. right now the `cellular broadband' is connected to the linux machine and appears to be partially working
[02:59] <ToStItOs> Well everything was working at one point with sharing the dial up connection. Before I had broadband I tried to share one last time and I could never get the internet to share so now I have broadband and yes the connections are not bridged
[02:59] <psycho_oreos> and you can't surf the net it appears with linux.. if that's the case I can see why.. there's no default gw set
[03:00] <ToStItOs> What does that mean
[03:01] <psycho_oreos> it means there's no default gateway, or no ip/host to connect to
[03:02] <ToStItOs> So how do I fix it through windows or
[03:02] <psycho_oreos> route add default gw `route -n| grep UH| awk '{FS=" "; print $1}'`
[03:03] <psycho_oreos> you can only fix it through linux, windows has no access to linux machine furthermore windows can't talk to linux yet
[03:04] <ToStItOs> Do I copy and paste all or where do I start the copy
[03:05] <psycho_oreos> you copy that line starting from (and including) route right to the last (and including) backtick
[03:06] <ToStItOs> then what
[03:07] <psycho_oreos> pastebin me your ifconfig -a && route
[03:08] <ToStItOs> type that command here or
[03:09] <psycho_oreos> that command goes into terminal/console and the output goes onto website pastebin
[03:09] <ToStItOs> -a && route
[03:09] <psycho_oreos> !pastebin
[03:10] <ToStItOs> ok
[03:12] <ToStItOs> I typed the command but now what do I need to do
[03:12] <psycho_oreos> copy and paste the output
[03:12] <psycho_oreos> into a website called pastebin
[03:12] <psycho_oreos> read above for links
[03:12] <ToStItOs> I didn't get a output
[03:13] <ToStItOs> I type that command and nothing
[03:13] <psycho_oreos> "ifconfig -a && route" (without quotes)
[03:14] <ToStItOs> ok got it now
[03:15] <ToStItOs> So paste it on the website
[03:15] <psycho_oreos> yes
[03:15] <ToStItOs> ok
[03:16] <ToStItOs> ok done
[03:16] <psycho_oreos> now paste me the new link from the address bar
[03:21] <ToStItOs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:21] <psycho_oreos> that's the wrong link
[03:21] <psycho_oreos> it should be something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/xxxxxxxxxx
[03:23] <ToStItOs> thats all the address bar says
[03:24] <ToStItOs> You want me to try it again
[03:25] <psycho_oreos> yes.. you should paste it and if there's post/submit or whatever other button, do press it
[03:25] <ToStItOs> ok
[03:26] <ToStItOs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/474752/
[03:26] <psycho_oreos> there
[03:27] <ToStItOs> I was forgetting to put my name on it
[03:27] <psycho_oreos> try this: sudo route add default gw `route -n| grep UH| awk '{FS=" "; print $1}'`
[03:27] <psycho_oreos> before you do..
[03:28] <ToStItOs> ok
[03:28] <psycho_oreos> exactly on which machine are you connected and talking to me through now?
[03:28] <ToStItOs> linux
[03:30] <ToStItOs> ok
[03:30] <psycho_oreos> so you're talking to me right now on linux, the one with the `cellular broadband' connected right? you should also be able to surf websites?
[03:31] <ToStItOs> The modem is does not support Xubuntu or linux I have dial up at the moment
[03:31] <psycho_oreos> isn't the modem `cellular broadband'?
[03:32] <ToStItOs> I still have dial up but I can't use the modem data card on this computer because the data card only supports windows Xp
[03:32] <ToStItOs> unless there is a way to configure to work with Linux
[03:33] <psycho_oreos> there should be but it depends on the chipset.. ok.. so as I understand now you have both dialup (56k) and `cellular broadband' right?
[03:33] <ToStItOs> Yes
[03:34] <psycho_oreos> and the `cellular broadband' is connected to windows machine which has ICS enabled right?
[03:34] <ToStItOs> I don't think the broadband connection is shared let me check but I don't think it is
[03:35] <ToStItOs> I didn't bridge the connections
[03:35] <psycho_oreos> you said before you used ICS
[03:35] <psycho_oreos> well yeah you'll need to bridge it
[03:35] <ToStItOs> with dial up
[03:35] <ToStItOs> ok
[03:36] <ToStItOs> So I need to run the network wizard then
[03:36] <psycho_oreos> no you'll need to bridge cellular broadband with the wired interface on windows
[03:36] <psycho_oreos> or yes whatever it is on windows
[03:36] <ToStItOs> ok that won't interfere with the command you gave me right?
[03:37] <psycho_oreos> which command?
[03:37] <ToStItOs> The one you gave me for the gw
[03:38] <psycho_oreos> don't worry about it, no it won't affect it
[03:38] <ToStItOs> ok be right back
[03:41] <ToStItOs> I selected Mobile broadband for the connection
[03:41] <ToStItOs> ICS enable
[03:42] <ToStItOs> that should work
[03:43] <psycho_oreos> did windows wizard tool tell you anything else about setting up the clients?
[03:50] <ToStItOs> Well I had to enable ICS so now should I disconnect dial up and try the broadband
[03:51] <psycho_oreos> yeah just set it so that linux gets the dhcp stuff off windows
[14:48] <francisco> Hello, good afternoon. I just initialized my computer and I can't see the menus that were normally on top screen. Someone knows what happend or what should I do? Thanks =)
[14:49] <charlie-tca> did the panel disappear or just the menu?
[14:50] <francisco> Hmm.. Well, both I think. There's only the desktop thing, there were normally things at down side and top.. but they disappeard =/ I Don't know what to do, I was installing a thing before close cpu but I didn't delete anything.
[14:50] <TheSheep> !panels
[14:51] <charlie-tca> Good morning, TheSheep
[14:51] <francisco> ubottu thanks so much!
[14:51] <francisco> It worked! =)
[14:51] <francisco> Oh kk o.o xD
[14:51] <francisco> Thank you too "TheSheep" =)
[14:52] <francisco> Good luck, and thanks! =)
[14:54] <TheSheep> hi charlie-tca
[16:33] <xxx_ooo_xxx> with dual monitors, anyone know how to get twinview/grandr to see the middle of my primary monitor as "center" not the center of the extended desktop
[17:05] <tesuji> hi - the quit button (upper right) only quits the panel - does not log me out, does not shut down the machine - then i gotta go to a term and run xfce4-panel.  the config options available for the quest button are: quit (the panel) and lock the screen.  how can add more options (especially options that might be useful)?
[17:08] <TheSheep> tesuji: you can't, and it does quit xfce if it has been started with xfce, not as standalone app
[17:54] <ToStItOs> How do I restore my network settings for Xubuntu 8.10
[17:55] <ToStItOs> To default
[17:55] <charlie-tca> 8.10?
[17:55] <charlie-tca> !versions
[17:55] <ToStItOs> yeah I know long story
[17:55] <charlie-tca> 8.10 is obsolete, you know
[17:56] <ToStItOs> I know should I just do a clean install of 9.10?
[17:56] <charlie-tca> or 10.04
[17:56] <charlie-tca> Try the live cd first, to make sure it works.
[17:56] <ToStItOs> I don't have access to 10.04
[17:56] <charlie-tca> !releases
[17:57] <ToStItOs> Which version has LTS currently
[17:57] <charlie-tca> 10.04
[17:58] <ToStItOs> really hmmm how does LTS work another words updates and compared to regular releases is it a better option or
[18:00] <charlie-tca> It works the same way, but it is good for three years as a desktop installation, 5 years as a server without the gui
[18:00] <charlie-tca> Standard releases are good for 18 months
[18:01] <charlie-tca> So, if you don't want to have to upgrade the isntallation often, LTS is a very good choice
[18:02] <ToStItOs> yeah LTS would be better for me but you do get the same updates as you would regular releases right?
[18:05] <charlie-tca> yes
[18:05] <charlie-tca> Just for a longer period of time
[18:05] <charlie-tca> and, you can upgrade LTS to LTS, too
[18:06] <ToStItOs> Ok I think i will do that how do I get a disc
[18:06] <ToStItOs> or should I just download it with my windows computer
[18:06] <charlie-tca> download it with windows, then burn the image to cd
[18:07] <ToStItOs> I finally have broadband but I have cellular broadband which my max speeds are 115k
[18:08] <ToStItOs> How long will it take with that speed
[18:09] <charlie-tca> I don't know
[18:09] <ToStItOs> I'll try it and see
[18:10] <ToStItOs> Whats new with 10.04 ???
[18:11] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/LucidLynx/Final
[18:11] <ToStItOs> Thanks for the help Charlie
[18:11] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[18:16] <Sir_obi> hi all i need help with wine
[18:18] <charlie-tca> !wine
[18:19] <Sir_obi> thx
[18:19] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[18:47] <xubuntu309> sup?
[19:07] <SandGorgon> hi guys.. does latest thunar support smb paths ?
[19:13] <TheSheep> Not the one in xubuntu, there is gigolo for that though
[19:13] <TheSheep> !gigolo
[19:14] <Sysi> !info gigolo
[19:14] <Sysi> does it support browsing shares?
[19:37] <TheSheep> Sysi: that's what it's for, mainly
[19:38] <TheSheep> Sysi: all it does is browsing shares and mounting them
[19:38] <TheSheep> Sysi: with smbfs
[20:38] <slow-motion> n8
[20:41] <tesuji> TheSheep, http://wiki.xfce.org/faq says different (see "logout problems") but I can't figure what the cause is.
[20:51] <tesuji> TheSheep, i fingered it out from reading .xsession-errors - i had disabled gnome-keyring-daemon by linking it to /bin/true :-)  but i still need to disable the daemon and i have selected the option to not use it in one of the system settings.  advice appreciated!
[20:52] <TheSheep> tesuji: sorry, that ice/auth/session thing is black magic to me
[20:53] <TheSheep> tesuji: it's one of the reasons why I didn't throw gdm away
[20:53] <tesuji> do you know how to stop the keyring daemon
[20:53] <TheSheep> tesuji: (I have set it to autologin and lock screen immediately anyways)
[20:53] <TheSheep> no
[20:54] <tesuji> i want to autoconnect to the wifi without asking for a password
[20:55] <TheSheep> xubuntu can do that out of the box
[20:55] <TheSheep> just set empty password for the keyrong
[20:55] <TheSheep> keyring
[21:21] <doug__> where do i change xorg.conf in xubuntu?
[21:21] <doug__> i got 1024 screen, but its buggy
[21:21] <doug__> wanna try the vesa one
[21:21] <TheSheep> well, you can just create it
[21:22] <TheSheep> normally there is none, but it works if you create it
[21:22] <doug__> hm. worried about creating one from scratch
[21:23] <TheSheep> it's not rocket science, man xorg.conf gives you the format
[21:23] <doug__> i got onboard video, installed xubunto cause its light, but the video is crappy
[21:23] <TheSheep> doug__: did you try going to system->hardware drivers?
[21:23] <doug__> yes, theres nothing
[21:23] <TheSheep> doug__: maybe you can install binary drivers for your card
[21:23] <TheSheep> ah, ok
[21:25] <doug__> http://pastebin.com/tkKdqqeW
[21:25] <doug__> check my lspci
[21:25] <doug__> i dunno if theres a driver for my video card
[21:27] <TheSheep> ugh, S3
[21:27] <TheSheep> maybe search the forums
[21:28] <doug__> auehuahe
[21:29] <doug__> god save me
[21:31] <doug__> first search "xxx dont display properly on xubuntu" :(
[23:03] <Gundamat> hey guys im having trouble installing xubuntu. is someone here who can help me?
[23:04] <well_laid_lawn> it all depends on what the trouble is :]
[23:04] <Sysi> 58:1
[23:04] <Sysi> i'd try
[23:04] <Gundamat> im trying to install it from the alternate CD but all i get is this crappy image
[23:04] <Gundamat> http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/9s0d0wi8/screen.png
[23:05] <Gundamat> the menu where i can select the language still works fine but when i select install xubuntu it all gets fucked up
[23:05] <Sysi> what kind of machine you're installling to?
[23:06] <Gundamat> ecs green320
[23:06] <Gundamat> an old laptop with 1,2ghz via cpu and 512mb ram
[23:08] <Sysi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866000
[23:08] <well_laid_lawn> more then likely it has via graphics - can you run   lspci | grep -i vga   in a tty?
[23:08] <well_laid_lawn> k :]
[23:09] <Sysi> some distro, at least gentoo should work..
[23:10] <Gundamat> yeah i managed to get arch linux running but i hoped that xubuntu would work too
[23:10] <Gundamat> how should i get into a tty?
[23:11] <well_laid_lawn> ctrl+alt+f2   and login
[23:11] <well_laid_lawn> alt+f7 to get back
[23:11] <Gundamat> well i cant even install it so getting to the login is a bit difficult
[23:11] <Sysi> lscpu would tell if it's about cpu
[23:11] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[23:12] <Sysi> you deleted arch?
[23:12] <Gundamat> yeah
[23:12] <Gundamat> installed windows for some other stuff
[23:13] <Gundamat> btw i think when installing arch i had a similar problem but setting vga=771 as a boot parameter helped
[23:13] <Gundamat> anyway when i tried that with xubuntu the monitor doesnt show an image at all
[23:17] <Sysi> you could check what it has inside from windows?
[23:19] <Gundamat> ok
[23:20] <well_laid_lawn> seems it has a via graphics card and I can't find a boot time parameter you can pass for the via chip to work
[23:23] <well_laid_lawn> some old laptops seem to need the   nopic nolapic   boot parameter
[23:23] <well_laid_lawn> some old laptops seem to need the   noapic nolapic   boot parameter
[23:24] <Gundamat> the graphics chip is called "VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP"
[23:24] <Gundamat> ok thanks ill try that out
[23:24] <well_laid_lawn> found this - http://www.mail-archive.com/plug@lists.linux.org.ph/msg13332.html - so it should work
[23:25] <Sysi> well_laid_lawn: did you check my url?
[23:25] <well_laid_lawn> Sysi: the forum link? - yep
[23:26] <Sysi> it's not gonna boot with any graphics card if it can't run kernel, but i'm not sure if arch should work then
[23:26] <Gundamat> setting noapic and nolapic didnt help
[23:26] <Gundamat> maybe they removed the support for it from the kernel?
[23:27] <Sysi> that just pops up the question that support for that should have been removed just from next buntu, 10.10
[23:28] <Sysi> does it have that via c3 cpu?
[23:28] <Gundamat> yep
[23:28] <Sysi> so *buntu would run it only on custom kernel
[23:29] <Sysi> installation maybe possible with debootstrap but that's just not ubuntu at all
[23:30] <Gundamat> so i gues im going to install arch again, thanks for the help anyway
[23:46] <ToStItOs> does anybody know anything about 3G cellular broadband