[00:56] <ScottK> Riddell and maco: If you delete plasma-netbook* in ~/.kde/share/config, that's sufficient.
[00:56] <ScottK> Riddell: It works for me on a fresh config.  It won't change existing configs.
[00:57] <maco> ScottK: thank you
[00:57] <ScottK> It can also be set by configuring the panel in Maverick.  Not sure about Lucid.
[00:58] <maco> i cant find that option in the panel settings in maverick
[01:00] <maco> ScottK: all i have on right click is "add widgets" and "lock panel"
[01:01] <ScottK> I get a little widget thing to adjust the height of the panel just below the panel.  It also controls autohide.
[01:02] <ScottK> I don't have the netbook handy, so I can't be more specific.
[01:02] <maco> ive only ever seen that on desktop....
[01:02] <maco> ScottK: does your panel have a cashew?
[01:02] <ScottK> No.
[01:02] <ScottK> Not in netbook.
[01:03] <ScottK> It may be related to the cashew for SAL.
[01:03] <maco> hmm
[01:03] <ScottK> Now that you mention it.
[01:03]  * ScottK really doesn't recall.
[01:04] <maco> oh i see
[01:04] <maco> you click the cashew in the bottom left and then the thing under the panel shows up
[01:04] <maco> its not a right-click thing
[01:05] <ScottK> Sounds right.
[01:05] <ScottK> Sorry for the initial mis-direct.
[02:01] <CIA-98> [trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100809010124-89hcf0kqw3yzwyp2 * (debian/changelog src/dbglookupthread.cpp) Only get the dbg package if the package we're looking up isn't null (LP: #614657)
[05:02] <ArneGoetje> Riddell: the last koffice upload seems to miss quite a few upstream translation updates. Languages appear to be largely untranslated in Launchpad while they are fully translated upstream.
[05:03] <ArneGoetje> Riddell: anything wrong with the upload or packaging?
[09:51] <dpm> hi Riddell, someone on the translators list mentioned that koffice translations from upstream have not been imported. I'm looking at a template from koffice as an example, and there are very few languages indeed: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/koffice/+pots/artistictextshape Is Koffice going to be uploaded next week with 4.5.0 as well?
[10:35] <CIA-98> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809093542-awvl5e60qo2s1mku * cmake/modules/FindGNOMEKeyring.cmake copynpaste--
[10:38] <apachelogger> o/
[10:51] <Riddell> dpm: hmm
[10:51] <Riddell> dpm: koffice has its translations in koffice-l10n which looks like it's in universe
[10:51] <Riddell> I'll fix that
[10:52] <dpm> Riddell, great, thanks
[11:06] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809100537-mstixxynw4cnsqvc * src/libs/ (SyncDaemonShares.cpp SyncDaemonShares.h) complete shares interface (not that it would be needed ;)) ... also ensure everything is documented properly
[11:13] <yofel> o/
[11:14] <yofel> so, next try: someone there that could upload bug 614859? (I added a conflict/replaces for the packages)
[11:18] <CIA-98> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809101819-ksmn3akpg8anwz72 * (3 files in 2 dirs) documentation++
[11:45] <CIA-98> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809104527-nf5yyh3hefoha446 * (3 files in 3 dirs) var naming++ && build depend on libglib2.0-dev explicitly
[11:47] <CIA-98> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809104720-2yvd2iw1trqn6hj3 * debian/changelog version bump
[11:50] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809105039-gq42arfwcvu4nlvd * src/libs/ (SyncDaemonShares.cpp SyncDaemonShares.h) dtor++
[11:51] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809105128-sw7rg8s55xfuaivg * src/libs/ (SyncDaemonFolders.cpp SyncDaemonFolders.h) dtor
[11:52] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809105205-vu9jcqogw80s0xeb * src/libs/ (SyncDaemonConfig.cpp SyncDaemonConfig.h) dtor++
[11:52] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809105252-j7qawy3ffvl6apnt * src/libs/ (SyncDaemon.cpp SyncDaemon.h) dtor++
[12:08] <Riddell> dpm: koffice-l10n moved to main and new version synced from debian
[12:09] <Riddell> also bluedevil synced for those who are interested
[12:09] <dpm> awesome, thanks Riddell!
[12:10] <Riddell> yofel: grantlee patched and uploaded, thanks for your patience
[12:11] <yofel> :D
[12:18]  * apachelogger ponders creating his own url class because qurl is just to dumb -.-
[12:19] <Riddell> debfx: packagekit merged and uploaded thanks
[12:24] <CIA-98> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809112418-ps53gw59z1o44kjz * debian/ (changelog control) fix dep name
[12:38] <Riddell> who's tested 4.5.0b from ninjas?
[12:40] <Riddell> please test 4.5.0b from ninjas and put results at bottom of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[12:56] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809115606-7pvrpald23lsycca * src/libs/ (SyncDaemonFolders.cpp SyncDaemonFolders.h) documentation++ && completeness++
[12:58] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809115817-46v5ndr07n6b0q3e * src/ (3 files in 2 dirs) rename silly functions to supreme intuitiveness
[12:59] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809115920-ylg5gn7m770z3puc * src/share/SharePropertiesWidget.h todo--
[13:15]  * Riddell sighs as soprano makes a late release for 4.5.0
[13:16]  * jussi huggles Riddell
[13:17]  * Riddell packages
[13:22] <shadeslayer> 'lo
[13:25] <jussi> its shadeslayer RUUUNNNN! :D
[13:25] <shadeslayer> hehe :P
[13:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: poke bug 615021
[13:25] <jussi> hows things shadeslayer
[13:25] <jussi> ?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> jussi: awesome.. hows life at your end? :D
[13:26] <jussi> busy
[13:26] <shadeslayer> i heard you moved to a new house... congrats
[13:26] <shadeslayer> oh and the tractor is awesome.. its even Blue \o/
[13:28] <jussi> the tractor is very awesome.
[13:28] <jussi> its a 63 Fordson Super Major :)
[13:28] <shadeslayer> jussi: just needs kubuntu stickers :P
[13:29] <jussi> haha
[13:29] <shadeslayer> is that what you will be driving to work? :P
[13:29] <jussi> heh. no. 
[13:30] <jussi> I drive ~30km to work... in a tractor? forget it.
[13:30] <shadeslayer> 30 Km :O
[13:31] <shadeslayer> jussi: id drive in tractor if it saves some fuel :P
[13:31] <shadeslayer> +the
[13:31] <jussi> shadeslayer: no you wouldnt... besides, my little polo is much better on fuel.
[13:31]  * shadeslayer actually did ride a tractor to college once
[13:32]  * jussi thinks shadeslayer forgets it gets to -30C in the winter...
[13:32] <shadeslayer> not here :P
[13:32] <shadeslayer> its like 4-5C here
[13:33] <shadeslayer> and when it goes the 0C the news people start crying about global warming and how the environment is being polluted 
[13:33] <shadeslayer> which is pretty ironic
[13:33] <shadeslayer> jussi: btw why cant you just compile quassel on your phone?
[13:34] <shadeslayer> its a android right?
[13:35] <jussi> no...
[13:35] <shadeslayer> then?
[13:36] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809123607-gqes7wct483rf6v4 * src/kcmodule/ (5 files) explicit ctors++
[13:36] <jussi> sec
[13:36] <shadeslayer> sure
[13:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: im guessing linphone can be syncd directly .... since we dont have any ubuntu specific changes... testing a build right now
[13:38] <jussi> shadeslayer: I have an android. but quassel is not an adroid app and I cant get Qt for android to compile.
[13:39] <Quintasan> it will not work
[13:39] <Quintasan> jussi: you still have android 2.1?
[13:39] <jussi> Quintasan: sadly
[13:39] <shadeslayer> jussi: http://code.google.com/p/android-lighthouse/wiki/Compile << ?
[13:39] <jussi> shadeslayer: we have tried, beleive me
[13:39] <shadeslayer> i see :P
[13:39] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: doesnt matter, support for 2.1 was dropped few weeks ago
[13:39] <jussi> shadeslayer: if you get it to compile, do tell us
[13:40] <jussi> Quintasan: oh :/
[13:40] <shadeslayer> jussi: ill need a android phone to do that
[13:40] <Quintasan> fist of all you need to compile it (the easy part)
[13:40] <jussi> Quintasan: I heard the upgrade is due in september
[13:40] <shadeslayer> i have the stupid nokia 2600
[13:40] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809124019-62gq3oxjye7h5fz9 * src/ (2 files in 2 dirs) string fixes
[13:40] <Quintasan> then in order to compile a Qt app you need some sort of JNI launcher or something like that
[13:40] <shadeslayer> or something of that sort...
[13:40] <Quintasan> dirty Java hacks in other words
[13:41] <Quintasan> Hmm, do we have someone from Japan in the community?
[13:42]  * Quintasan wants some goods from yahoo.jp but they won't post outside Japan
[13:42] <Quintasan> :<
[13:42] <jussi> Quintasan: persia
[13:42] <Quintasan> jussi: thanks, I'll ask later
[13:43] <jussi> :)
[13:43] <shadeslayer> hmm.. any suggestions for a word processor apart from kword and OOo
[13:43] <shadeslayer> frankly both of them dont cut it
[13:43] <Quintasan> I bet the postal fee will be at least the price od CD
[13:44] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: abiword
[13:44] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809124345-zod7fwbkg91a18re * src/share/ (4 files) klineedit > qlineedit
[13:44] <shadeslayer> hmm.. ive heard of it.. havent used it.. lets see
[13:44] <jussi> shadeslayer: there are also the OOo based ones, lotus symphony etc
[13:45] <jussi> though I dont think that is in the repos
[13:45] <jussi> http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home
[13:46] <shadeslayer> hmm... thanks :D
[13:47] <agateau> shadeslayer: abiword? Zoho?
[13:48] <shadeslayer> well... right now lotus looks good :D
[13:48] <shadeslayer> google docs doesnt have double column formatting :S
[13:48] <shadeslayer> else id have used that
[13:48] <jussi> shadeslayer: yeah, Zoho is an interesting online alternative
[13:49] <jussi> agateau: are there zoho shortcuts for kde, as there for gnome.
[13:49] <agateau> jussi: I have no idea
[13:49] <shadeslayer> jussi: shortcuts? 0_o
[13:49] <jussi> shadeslayer: there is zoho integration in gnome
[13:50] <shadeslayer> nice
[13:50] <jussi> right click menus etc
[13:50] <jussi> "open with zoho" etc
[13:50] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809125047-o8k9f9wb5ju1zlli * src/ (4 files in 3 dirs) more i18n semantics
[13:51] <shadeslayer> oohh... zoho has double colums stuff
[13:52] <shadeslayer> !info webservice-office-zoho maverick
[13:52] <shadeslayer> jussi: ^
[13:53] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809125248-07l6awvqqrhhl8bz * src/share/SharePropertiesWidget.ui kcombobox > qcombobox
[14:13] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809131313-rnujwc140rivhb4o * src/api/ (Api.cpp Api.h) documentation++
[14:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bug 615369
[14:58] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809135839-ndulne6oroy3m4ll * src/api/ (9 files) documentation+++++++
[15:01] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809140127-w2mqrt93igjalewl * debian/control depend on ubuntu-sso AND build-depend on it, otherwise the dbus interface cannot be created
[16:00] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809150022-09xpg4nm0i7bjc9q * debian/ (changelog control) * Build dep on cmake * Snapshot
[16:24] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809152408-td65u0dwi27sjgrc * (debian/changelog debian/control src/api/CMakeLists.txt) * Ensure that dbus_prefix is found * Build depend on dbus
[16:31]  * Riddell uploads kde-l10n to maverick
[16:35] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you see my ping about bluedevil being out of New in Debian?
[16:36] <Riddell> ScottK: yes thanks, it's in our New queue
[16:36] <ScottK> Cool.  Thanks.
[16:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: new linphone in archives
[16:57] <shadeslayer> working on kdenetwork split
[16:59] <shadeslayer> whut do i call the new package tho...  kopete-googletalk-call ?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> or kopete-gcall ?
[17:01] <shadeslayer> ill go with kopete-gcall.....
[17:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: seems that seb128 has taken to doing syncs, yay!
[17:04] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:04] <shadeslayer> good for us anyways :P
[17:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you grant access to Michael in bug 615021
[17:05] <shadeslayer> +to ninja ppa
[17:07] <Riddell> done
[17:07] <shadeslayer> awesome :D
[17:11] <shadeslayer> stalcup: can you backport kraft please ? 
[17:11] <shadeslayer> seems it installs and runs 
[17:11] <shadeslayer> bug 603276
[17:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you need to comment on the bug
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah i just did :D
[17:13] <sheytan> anyone with 4.5 on the board, desktop effects turned on and want to help me? :D
[17:14]  * shadeslayer would point sheytan to #kubuntu
[17:14] <sheytan> shadeslayer already did :D
[17:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: does this look fine : http://pastebin.com/h14Tcmmr
[17:18] <shadeslayer> the kopete-gcall part...
[17:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kopete should Suggest kopete-gcall
[17:19] <shadeslayer> oh right... 
[17:20] <shadeslayer> anything else?
[17:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: add "gcall support" to end of Description line
[17:20] <Riddell> actually, gcall doesn't seem to be a term google use
[17:20] <shadeslayer> the binary is named that
[17:21] <shadeslayer> Description: instant messenger for KDE 4 gcall support << that doesnt seem right 0_o
[17:21] <Riddell> Description: Google Talk voice support for Kopete
[17:21] <shadeslayer> yeah 
[17:21] <Riddell> This package adds Google Talk voice support functionality to Kopete.
[17:21] <Riddell> that seems appropriate^^
[17:22] <shadeslayer> err.. google talk is the whole thing...
[17:22] <shadeslayer> like chat + voip
[17:22] <shadeslayer> but this just adds the voip stuff
[17:23] <shadeslayer> ohhh... i need to read more :S
[17:29] <shadeslayer> building ...
[17:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you have time to give u1-kde a shot?
[17:37] <apachelogger> a new build is almost ready in the PPA
[17:37] <Riddell> can do in a bit
[17:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: for maverick? 
[17:38] <apachelogger> aye
[17:38] <apachelogger> ppa:apachelogger/ubuntuone-kde
[17:38] <apachelogger> install ubuntuone-kde
[17:38] <shadeslayer> nice.. ill try it out too
[17:39]  * apachelogger finds that iso download takes very long today and is wondering if his flat mate is responsible for that ^^
[17:43] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:43] <shadeslayer> E: Unable to locate package ubuntuone-kde
[17:44] <shadeslayer> not published yet :S
[17:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: are you on amd64?
[17:44] <shadeslayer> yes
[17:44] <apachelogger> pending publication there
[17:44] <apachelogger> ...still...
[17:44] <shadeslayer> yep...
[17:45] <shadeslayer> it was finished 10 mins ago and still 
[17:45] <shadeslayer> lex79 still not back from vacations ^_^
[17:45] <oxymoron> KDE 4.5 will be released tomorrow, right?
[17:46] <Riddell> oxymoron: depends if we find anyone to tset it
[17:46] <maco> apachelogger: oh oh ill tst it too
[17:46] <apachelogger> yay
[17:46] <oxymoron> Riddell: Hmm alright :) Hopefully they fixed all bugs, seriously I am using the RC and its buggy as hell in Dolphin, Kwin and so on.
[17:47] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: lucid?
[17:47] <maco> oxymoron: and really slow :(
[17:47] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Yes
[17:48] <apachelogger> http://imagebin.ca/view/uwULrv.html one gets to wonder what happens at that large peak
[17:48] <oxymoron> maco: Yes, that too :(
[17:48] <oxymoron> I guess I need to wait for 10.10 of Kubuntu or so ...
[17:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dude... i get a blank page 0_o
[17:48] <oxymoron> Maverick alpha isnt usable yet, cannot even install it :P I dont expect to either, but still :P
[17:49] <apachelogger> see, that is broken alright
[17:49] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: i installed it...im using it :P
[17:49]  * apachelogger demands imagepaste service for you bun too
[17:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does oo-boon-too one kde support dolphin?
[17:49] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Seriously, it didnt work for me last time I tried.
[17:49] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Worth try it out?
[17:49] <apachelogger> no
[17:49] <apachelogger> because dolphin does not support the cloud
[17:50] <apachelogger> dolphins are living in the water after all
[17:50] <apachelogger> no clouds in the water I suppose
[17:50] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: well... if you have the time to fix it if it goes broke, yes
[17:50] <maco> oxymoron: oh im using maverick. its slow
[17:50] <maco> animations are slow...takes like 2 seconds for kickoff to open
[17:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but clouds have water :P
[17:50] <oxymoron> maco: lol :D
[17:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok installed... what next 0_o
[17:51] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Porbably not then :P
[17:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ubuntuone-statusnotifier
[17:51] <apachelogger> that should open some browsa to get authentication
[17:51] <apachelogger> if you grant that it should switch to idle state
[17:51] <apachelogger> that is if your system is up-to-date :P
[17:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dude.. it leads to one.ubuntu.com ... not sign in page 
[17:52] <maco> apachelogger:   ubuntu-sso-qt: Conflicts: ubuntu-sso-client but 0.0.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[17:52] <maco> apachelogger: nevermind
[17:52] <apachelogger> maco: apt-get?
[17:52] <maco> right
[17:52] <apachelogger> oh
[17:53] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I did not say sign in, I said authentication :P
[17:53] <maco> no i mean, "you're right apt-get fixes the whinging"
[17:53] <apachelogger> yeah, that is what I figured :P
[17:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it doesnt
[17:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: snapshot plz
[17:54] <oxymoron> Is it alright to be annoyed on current soft- and hardware market that devlopers, scientists, "professionals" provide today?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> hold on
[17:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://imgur.com/1Ol8O
[17:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so log in :P
[17:56] <oxymoron> Then I wonder, is there any kind of unrar software who can AUTOFIX the freaking CRC problem if happens? Because now Ark just dies xD Then my computer freezes when extracting rar archives ....
[17:56] <apachelogger> to authenticate an application one first must authenticate oneself I suppose ^^
[17:56] <shadeslayer> whut now?
[17:57] <apachelogger> snapshot
[17:57] <maco> apachelogger: im confused
[17:57] <apachelogger> oh
[17:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you are already authenicated
[17:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://imgur.com/Icgdh
[17:57] <maco> i clicked the icon and it opened a browser and i logged in
[17:57] <apachelogger> are you not?
[17:57] <shadeslayer> i dont think so
[17:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did you click on the tray icon?
[17:58] <maco> and i clicked configure and it took me to the kcm and i clicked manage account and it took me to the browser where im logged in
[17:58] <shadeslayer> yes
[17:58] <maco> where is the "add this computer" part???
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ^^ tottaly
[17:58] <apachelogger> AH
[17:58] <apachelogger> hold on
[17:58] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, maco: you used ubuntuone-gnome before?
[17:58] <maco> no
[17:58] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:58] <apachelogger> hm
[17:59] <apachelogger> maco, shadeslayer: if you hover over the tray icon what does it say?
[17:59] <shadeslayer> i installed ubuntuone-kde for the first time :P
[17:59] <maco> apachelogger: disconnected
[17:59] <maco> it has a red box with a x
[17:59] <shadeslayer> trying to establish a connection
[17:59] <apachelogger> that is interessting
[17:59] <shadeslayer> mine has a pretty ubuntu icon
[17:59] <apachelogger> maco, shadeslayer: what ubuntu* apps are running?
[17:59] <maco> somehow clicking the "manage account" button a bunch of times on one of my machines it ended up working one time. dont know how
[17:59] <shadeslayer> now its the same as maco's
[18:00] <maco> apachelogger: ubuntuone-statusnotifier, ubuntu-sso
[18:00] <shadeslayer> maco: right click on the icon > connect
[18:00] <maco> and ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[18:00] <apachelogger> hmmmmm
[18:00] <apachelogger> oh
[18:00] <shadeslayer> same as maco here too
[18:00] <apachelogger> come to think of it, there might be a bug (or at least potential for one)
[18:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, maco: is ubuntu-sso-qt-kwallet installed?
[18:01] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:01] <maco> yes
[18:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/Dy5xh6vK
[18:01] <apachelogger> hm hmm
[18:01] <shadeslayer> if it helps any
[18:01] <apachelogger> kill ubuntuone-statusnotifier AND ubuntu-sso
[18:01] <apachelogger> then start ubuntu-sso on a terminal
[18:02] <apachelogger> and then ubuntuone-statusnotifier
[18:02] <apachelogger> see if any useful information comes out, otherwise please send me a log
[18:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/jFxw2d5L <<
[18:03] <maco> kill? or ctrl+c
[18:03] <maco> oh nvm
[18:03] <apachelogger> maco: either will do, as long as the processes are gone afterwards ^^
[18:03] <shadeslayer> QOauth errors? :D
[18:03] <apachelogger> ohh
[18:03] <apachelogger> ohhhhhh
[18:03] <apachelogger> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:03] <apachelogger> hm
[18:04] <apachelogger> do you have /etc/xdg/ubuntuone/oauth_urls?
[18:04] <maco> no
[18:04] <maco> broken symlink
[18:04] <shadeslayer> nope here too
[18:04] <Quintasan> oh god
[18:05] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: speak 
[18:05] <apachelogger> -.-
[18:05] <apachelogger> ...
[18:05] <apachelogger> ......
[18:05] <Quintasan> I was playing Civilization, and whole world is against me
[18:05] <Quintasan> :D
[18:05] <Quintasan> apachelogger: what's up grumblelogger?
[18:05] <apachelogger> I shall stop drinking coffee if u1 ever manages to not make totally incompatible and havoked changes
[18:05] <apachelogger> maco, shadeslayer: where does that link go?
[18:06] <maco> apachelogger: oauth_urls
[18:06] <maco> apachelogger: it just points to a missing file in same dir that lacks the .conf
[18:06] <apachelogger> I asked for the one without .conf :P
[18:06] <maco> oh well thats just plain not there
[18:07] <shadeslayer> errr.. the file  it points to aint there..
[18:07] <apachelogger> yeah, beceause they moved it around
[18:07] <apachelogger> well
[18:07] <apachelogger> screw it
[18:07] <shadeslayer> how do you follow something that isnt there :P
[18:07]  * apachelogger clones the config and does some vodoo stuff
[18:07] <maco> apachelogger: ubuntu-sso-client: /etc/xdg/ubuntu-sso/oauth_urls
[18:07] <apachelogger> wellz
[18:07] <apachelogger> quite frankly
[18:07] <apachelogger> I am so not going to maintain this
[18:07] <maco> according to apt-file search
[18:07] <apachelogger> maco: yeah, they moved around
[18:08] <apachelogger> supposedly my systems have the file lying around from previous ubuntuone-auth
[18:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you broke my maverick :P
[18:09] <shadeslayer> it was going fine till now.. everything worked
[18:09] <apachelogger> happens
[18:09] <shadeslayer> now my first maverick breakage \o/
[18:11] <shadeslayer> weird... 
[18:11] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: no way
[18:11] <Quintasan> once again?
[18:11] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: dude... i made the same changes to kopete that i did back when i originally split the package.. and no gcall binary 0_o
[18:12] <Quintasan> why on earth do you need gcall?
[18:12] <CIA-98> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809171158-n5f7cby8aqf6ntuw * (5 files in 2 dirs) I do hate this, no really I do...
[18:12] <Quintasan> the readme says its unstable
[18:12]  * shadeslayer doesnt read the README
[18:12] <Quintasan> at least it said that two or three weeks ago
[18:12] <Quintasan> ..
[18:12] <Quintasan> ...
[18:12] <Quintasan> dots of justice
[18:13] <apachelogger> why would we
[18:13] <apachelogger> implicit knowledge ftw!
[18:13] <Quintasan> its not like I mind giving users more features to break their system with
[18:13] <Quintasan> but we ought to make sure it does not eat data
[18:14] <apachelogger> how would it be eating data/
[18:14]  * apachelogger hits his shift key really hard
[18:14] <Quintasan> X crashes, SIG{SEGV,TERM,whatever}, KDE crashes
[18:14] <apachelogger>   Uploading ubuntu-sso-qt_0.0.0~alpha1+4-0ubuntu0~ppa1_source.changes: done.
[18:14] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages
[18:14] <Quintasan> ffff
[18:15] <Quintasan> give me my new launchpad
[18:15] <apachelogger> lunchpad \o/
[18:15] <apachelogger> did I mention it also becomes more of a PITA every week?
[18:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, maco: you could ditch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntu-sso-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/src/oauth_urls.conf at /etc/xdg/ubuntu-sso/oauth_urls.conf
[18:16] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: what do you think about syncing few branches from playground and doing daily builds for them as well?
[18:16] <apachelogger> update coming along (unless i broke the build)
[18:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: apparently not when lp fixes kdelibs import
[18:16] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: id say neon ftw
[18:16] <shadeslayer> id also say crap the hell out of lp with kde builds
[18:17] <shadeslayer> s/crap/krap
[18:17] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you should just build all of KDE
[18:17] <apachelogger> kill launchpad stone dead right there
[18:17]  * shadeslayer nods
[18:17]  * apachelogger would be very in favor of that TBH
[18:17]  * Quintasan is going to file over 9000 import requests
[18:17] <Quintasan> and over 9000 recipes
[18:18]  * apachelogger is wondering why konqi segfaults so often today
[18:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no ubuntu-sso folder, do i make one?
[18:18] <apachelogger> did someone change stuff?
[18:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: aye
[18:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: now whut?
[18:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kill them processes again and try again
[18:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: same thing
[18:20] <apachelogger> whut?
[18:20] <apachelogger> same error?
[18:21] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.com/DUPPTCKe
[18:21] <apachelogger> exactly same output?
[18:21] <apachelogger> oh
[18:21] <apachelogger> ah
[18:21] <apachelogger> DANG
[18:21] <shadeslayer> seems to
[18:21]  * apachelogger is going slowly mad
[18:21] <apachelogger> no actually rather fast
[18:21] <shadeslayer> id hate to lose my apachelogger :P
[18:22] <shadeslayer> ohhhkkk
[18:22] <CIA-98> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809172215-nlsx0qt65odh3c91 * (debian/changelog src/AccessToken.cpp) fix path for oauth_urls
[18:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, maco: updated for the update uploaded
[18:28] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809172829-lxi3covqjrf2qbpf * (4 files in 2 dirs) Fix install
[18:29] <apachelogger> I love that ^
[18:29] <apachelogger> so 
[18:29] <apachelogger> I edited debian/changelog
[18:29] <apachelogger> did some other stuff
[18:29] <apachelogger> bzr ci
[18:29] <apachelogger> bazaar goes all smart on me and uses the changelog entry as commit message suggestion
[18:29] <apachelogger> and now
[18:29] <apachelogger> no matter what I do
[18:29] <apachelogger> bzr will commit
[18:30] <apachelogger> it is like someone shoots me in the brain every time
[18:30] <apachelogger> and that happens like a couple of times a week
[18:30] <apachelogger> hence I must be a vampire or my brain would have gone by now
[18:33] <Quintasan> or
[18:33] <Quintasan> more possible
[18:33] <Quintasan> that your brain shut down a long time ago but you didnt notice :P
[18:33] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809173342-ho4uupxngha7f22e * src/statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp fix bogus commit
[18:33] <apachelogger> Quintasan: entirely possible
[18:34] <maco> apachelogger: i thought it only used the changelog entry as commit mesage if you used "debcommit"?
[18:34] <apachelogger> no
[18:34] <shadeslayer> i still dont understand whats wrong here :S
[18:35] <apachelogger> maco: debcommit will use it and just commit ... if you do bzr ci it will just use the changelog entry as suggested commit message in the editor
[18:35] <apachelogger> you can still edit it
[18:35] <maco> i see
[18:35] <apachelogger> but you cannot abort
[18:36] <apachelogger> even if you delete all the content it will just use the changelog entry since obviously the user was too stupid to get the editing right?
[18:44] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809174416-c1j66zgm5o6t8yca * src/libs/SyncDaemon.cpp prevent possible leak
[18:45] <debfx> just kill bzr if you don't want to commit :p
[18:48] <shadeslayer> im off to sleep.. bye guys
[19:33] <apachelogger> maco, shadeslayer: new ubuntu-sso-qt should be available
[19:35] <maco> apachelogger: are you aware of this?   QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method UbuntuOne::Application::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance()
[19:35] <maco> apachelogger: add-this-computer works now!
[19:36] <apachelogger> cool
[19:36] <maco> oh er
[19:36] <maco> and then ubuntu-sso core dumped
[19:36] <apachelogger> yay
[19:36] <apachelogger> maco: backtrace would be nice :S
[19:37] <maco> youre gonna make me remember how to send gdb output to a file arent you?
[19:38] <maco> apachelogger: ummm i have a .crash.  gdb says this is not the same as a core file. what do i do?
[19:39] <maco> apachelogger: can i just email you this?
[19:39] <apachelogger> maco: aye, please :)
[19:40] <maco> apachelogger: apachelogger@kubuntu.org ?
[19:40] <apachelogger> yep
[19:41] <maco> apachelogger: sent
[19:42] <apachelogger> maco: thanks
[19:42] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809184228-w407qlw8g2hrxog1 * src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) linking-- on-demand-heaping++ memusage--
[19:49] <apachelogger> ok
[19:50] <apachelogger> maco: apport-unpack YOURFILE SOMEDIR
[19:50] <apachelogger> in that dir should then be a CoreDump file
[19:50] <maco> apachelogger: but but i emailed it to you. now YOU can do it! *run*
[19:50] <apachelogger> maco: I am on i386 so I suppose not
[19:50] <maco> oh
[19:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: yo, what do I need to be testing?
[19:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: statsnotifier, kcm, sharing...
[19:52] <apachelogger> just a general test
[19:52] <ari-tczew> Riddell: could you sponsor one patch for main?
[19:52] <apachelogger> now that ubuntuone-client is patched I could actually launch a proper alpha
[19:52] <Riddell> apachelogger: is this suitable quality for soft pencils down day?
[19:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: ought to be
[19:52] <Riddell> ari-tczew: what is it?
[19:52] <ari-tczew> Riddell: konversation
[19:52] <maco> apachelogger: er this isnt what id call a *useful* backtrace
[19:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: of course it grossly lacks testing for obvious reasons
[19:53] <apachelogger> maco: no dbg symbols installed?
[19:53] <maco> apachelogger: not on this system... any idea which ones id need?
[19:53] <Riddell> ari-tczew: ok
[19:53] <apachelogger> and that is why drkonqi is superior :P
[19:54] <apachelogger> maco: can you paste the trace?
[19:54] <apachelogger> maco: ubuntu-sso-qt-dbg at the very least
[19:54] <apachelogger> then you should be able to retrace with apport-retrace I suppose
[19:54]  * apachelogger never looked into retracing
[19:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, do you happen to know if I can hook up drkonqi with a qt-only app?
[19:57] <Riddell> apachelogger: no idea although you should be able to use apport fine
[19:58] <maco> Riddell: how do i do this retrace thing?
[20:01] <Riddell> apachelogger: installed ubuntuone-kde, started ubuntuone-statusnotifier, it opens kwallet and then Konqueror, I log in through Konqueror and close it, statusnotifier says disconnected
[20:01] <Riddell> open system settings, click on ubuntu One, takes ages to load module
[20:02] <Riddell> eventually logs in, statusnotifier goes to Idle
[20:03] <apachelogger> hm, supposedly it just took very long and was hogging your CPU?
[20:03]  * apachelogger ponders more status feedback
[20:03] <Riddell> click on Shares, also takes ages to open then doesn't show anything
[20:03] <yofel> yay 
[20:03] <yofel> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntuone-kde_0.0.0~alpha1+7-0ubuntu0~maverick0~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[20:03] <yofel>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/ubuntuone.png', which is also in package ubuntuone-client-gnome 1.3.6-0ubuntu2
[20:04] <maco> apachelogger: UI problem. "public" folders...? er... public? public sounds...not like what id want. is it? i want "share these folders with my other machines" not "share these folders with the world"
[20:04] <apachelogger> ah yeah
[20:05] <apachelogger> that is misnamed
[20:05] <apachelogger> yofel: they are incompatible nowadays
[20:05] <yofel> apachelogger: how about a conflict? :P
[20:05]  * apachelogger needs to add a replaces/conflicts
[20:05] <Riddell> under Public Folders ~/Ubuntu One is ticked, but I have nothing in there except "Shared With Me", why doesn't it sync?
[20:05] <yofel> :)
[20:05] <maco> Riddell: you need to put something in it
[20:06] <Riddell> maco: I have things in it according to the web interface
[20:06] <maco> Riddell: oh
[20:06] <Riddell> I'd expect them to sync to this computer now I've connected it to Ubuntu One
[20:06] <maco> so would i
[20:07] <apachelogger> hm
[20:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: if the statusnotifier says idle the syncdaemon should be syncing any minute now
[20:07]  * Riddell twiddles thumbs
[20:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: can you please send me your .cache/ubuntuone/log folder
[20:07] <maco> Riddell: how apropos
[20:08] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809190831-ahdl42l8m9z85nq6 * debian/ (changelog control) Replace & conflict gnome client (thanks to yofel for pointing that one out)
[20:09] <Riddell> apachelogger: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/log.tar.gz
[20:11] <apachelogger> 2010-08-09 20:08:17,922 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.sync - DEBUG - -:-:- - [''::'a4492788-8986-4ae6-8c20-b89062c942c8'] ''-'' | Client not ready for generations! vol gen: None, new gen: 153L
[20:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: looks like a syncdaemon issue to me
[20:11] <apachelogger> seems to be stuck :/
[20:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: best ask in #ubuntuone :S
[20:12] <apachelogger> possibly that could explain the slowness too
[20:12] <apachelogger> maco: Name=Folders
[20:12] <apachelogger> Comment=Manage the folders synchronized with Ubuntu One
[20:12] <apachelogger> how about that?
[20:13] <dantti> Riddell: hey :D that PackageKit bug is fixed now, but don't you think it should have debconf to automatically change the backend?
[20:15] <maco> apachelogger: yep
[20:16] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100809191602-s1pmip0l6zieve05 * src/kcmodule/ubuntuone-folders.desktop fix folders kcm name and description - praise go to maco
[20:16] <Riddell> dantti: yes the fix isn't very satisfactory, however I've no time to do the debconf foo
[20:17] <Riddell> this 4.5 release won't upload itself :)
[20:17] <Riddell> maybe if we hinted at debfx.. :)
[20:20] <dantti> Riddell: k, I'll try to work on something after I finish kpk 0.6.1 almost done...
[20:24] <yofel> apachelogger: ok, I got the statusnotifier running and managed to add this computer to the cloud, now how do I get rid of the gnome-keyring windows... ?
[20:28] <maco> apachelogger: haha
[20:29] <apachelogger> yofel: you do not
[20:30] <apachelogger> because ubuntuone depends on desktocouch and desktopcouch still got hardcoded gnome-keyring 
[20:30] <yofel> *headdesk*
[20:30]  * yofel kicks desktopcouch
[20:34] <yofel> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/475595/
[20:37] <yofel> ok, pressing restart in the statusnotifier menu seems to have helped
[20:38] <yofel> syncing..
[20:47] <neversfelde> let's remove kmail from the default installation, no discussion needed about HTML anymore after it :(
[20:51] <DarthFrog> So far, so good with the release version. <knock on wooden head>
[20:53] <Riddell> DarthFrog: installed ok?  running ok?
[21:00] <DarthFrog> No problems so far.
[21:00] <DarthFrog> Clean install.
[21:01] <DarthFrog> About KDE reports Platform Version 4.5.00 (KDE 4.5.0)
[21:01] <Riddell> that's a good sign :)
[21:01] <DarthFrog> I don't use KMail, however, so I don't know anything about how it's performing.
[21:01]  * ulysses uses KDE 4.5.0 since a week
[21:02] <Riddell> KMail hasn't changed
[21:03] <DarthFrog> Konq, & Konversation are running fine.  
[21:04] <Riddell> oh, unless shadeslayer has uploaded kdepim to ninjas instead of to experimental
[21:04]  * Riddell eyes up shadeslayer 
[21:05] <apachelogger> yofel: did you maybe have an old version of syncdaemon running?
[21:05] <apachelogger> I only uploaded the kwallet patch on friday or so
[21:05] <yofel> could have been, I did have the gnome client installed
[21:05] <yofel> maybe that one was still running
[21:07] <Nightrose> ScottK: careful with that guy
[21:07] <Nightrose> (mailing list)
[21:08] <ScottK> Nightrose: Now you tell me.
[21:08] <Nightrose> heh yea sorry
[21:08] <ScottK> How so?
[21:08] <Nightrose> he's been causeing quite some problems in other places i feel responsible for
[21:09] <ScottK> OK.
[21:14] <Riddell> DarthFrog: mind and add to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[21:16] <Riddell> apachelogger: what are your plans for the next week to finish off SoC?
[21:19] <apachelogger> Riddell: do a proper alpha, api and string review
[21:19] <apachelogger> also I think i18n is still a bit shakey regarding completeness of the Message.sh scripts
[21:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: do you think anything will be ready for inclusion in maverick?
[21:20]  * maco hopes so
[21:20] <apachelogger> that entirely depends on how many issue get found and how complex they are, but I am hoping
[21:28] <apachelogger> holy french fries
[21:28] <apachelogger> todays mav image is completely unusable in vbox Oo
[21:28] <Riddell> how so
[21:28] <Riddell> ?
[21:32] <maco> my kubuntu mav vm no longer speaks networking :(
[21:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: first it popped up some dialog about graphics being all broken ... I recon it was that bulletproof X thingy ... also it was presenting in a GTK dialog which I find very weird
[21:32] <apachelogger> so I told it to save graphics upon which I got KDM and was able to log in
[21:33] <apachelogger> but desktop effects were on which appeared to be quite the laggy adventure
[21:33] <ulysses> current updates want to remove the Xorg and its drivers:S
[21:33] <maco> ulysses: yeah dont do it
[21:33] <apachelogger> having those turned off I noticed that nepomuk and virtuoso ran wild
[21:33] <maco> ulysses: a new version of X is being uploaded
[21:33] <apachelogger> having those killed to I am now at least partially able to use it 
[21:50] <debfx> Riddell, dantti: ideally we could assign priorities to the packagekit backends and it would automatically check which ones are installed
[21:55] <debfx> I suspect there aren't many users who want to use another packagekit backend
[22:03] <James147> Riddell: kde 4.5 installed (fianlly) and seems to run fine
[23:43] <nuovodna> will be the qt dbusmenu patched version uploaded to lucid ppa?
[23:44] <Riddell> nuovodna: what patched version?
[23:45] <apachelogger> maco: good news, I can reproduce the crash...
[23:45] <apachelogger> well
[23:45] <nuovodna> the version that allows to put menubar external on plasma-widget-menubar
[23:45] <apachelogger> not really good news ^^
[23:45] <nuovodna> like this 4:4.7.0~beta1+git20100522-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1+appmenu20100722
[23:47] <sheytan> Hey, will 4.5 for lucid be build on qt 4.7?
[23:47] <nuovodna> sheytan: yep
[23:47] <Riddell> nuovodna: I've no plans to backport plasma-widget-menubar
[23:48] <nuovodna> ok... i ll try to upgrade on maverick
[23:49] <sheytan> nuovodna  thnak you :)