[00:00] <stlsaint> live: no this is not the forums
[00:00] <stlsaint> live: here are the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[00:02] <live> .
[00:03] <stlsaint> live: ..
[00:03] <live> hmm.. thanks
[00:03] <stlsaint> live: ;)
[00:03] <live> inturusting
[00:03] <live> interesting
[00:04] <stlsaint> live: whats that?
[00:04] <live> okay, how about a bot
[00:04] <live> oh wait
[00:04] <live> !irc
[00:04] <ubot2> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[00:05] <live> stlsaint
[00:05] <stlsaint> live: yes?
[00:05] <live> I thought it was interesting that I sent my mom the ubuntu live CD
[00:05] <live> also a computer that was broken
[00:05] <live> i sent them a cd aswell
[00:11] <bootstrap> I'm a bit behind, but has turbo been fixed for intel iX processors?
[00:24] <stlsaint> bootstrap: sorry i couldnt tell ya
[00:24] <bootstrap> stlsaint: That's ok, thanks for the response though.
[00:48] <live> turbo boost isn't working
[00:52] <bootstrap> live: thank you. do you have any speculations on it?
[00:54] <live> no
[00:54] <live> sorry
[00:55] <bootstrap> that's fine, thanks again
[03:59] <duanedesign> what ubuntu package allows you to do svn checkouts?
[04:01] <duanedesign> aha, its subversion, not svn :)
[04:25] <ShadowKnight> hey, i was wondering if there was anything i can do to basically make poweriso run in ubuntu or something similar
[04:27] <duanedesign> hello ShadowKnight
[04:28] <ShadowKnight> hi duanedesign
[04:28] <duanedesign> ShadowKnight: what were you wanting to do? mount an iso?
[04:28] <ShadowKnight> duanedesign: yes thats exactly what i want to do, is it possible?
[04:29] <duanedesign> yep
[04:29] <duanedesign> have you ever used nautilus scripts before?
[04:29] <ShadowKnight> no i havent actually, what are they?
[04:30] <duanedesign> if you right click on a file or folder there is a scripts option
[04:30] <duanedesign> these are scripts you put in  ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[04:31] <ShadowKnight> anything i have to download before that? or like do i just right click on it?
[04:31] <duanedesign> there are a couple of scripts that you can download put them in that folder
[04:31] <ShadowKnight> oh okay then and downloading those scripts would enable to mount?
[04:31] <duanedesign> and then you can r-click mount/unmount iso
[04:31] <duanedesign> that is how i do it, i find it convenient
[04:32] <ShadowKnight> alright sounds pretty easy, any particular place you can download them from?
[04:32] <duanedesign> ill walk you through it real quick if you like
[04:32] <ShadowKnight> okay that would work, thank you very much
[04:32] <duanedesign> open a Terminal
[04:33] <ShadowKnight> okay opened
[04:33] <duanedesign> then enter the command:
[04:33] <duanedesign> wget http://www.debianadmin.com/images/iso/mount.sh
[04:33] <duanedesign> then
[04:33] <duanedesign> wget http://www.debianadmin.com/images/iso/unmount.sh
[04:33] <duanedesign> then
[04:34] <duanedesign> sudo chmod +x mount.sh
[04:34] <duanedesign> sudo chmod +x unmount.sh
[04:34] <duanedesign> that makes them executable
[04:34] <duanedesign> now to  move them
[04:34] <ShadowKnight> okay then got all that down
[04:34] <duanedesign> sudo mv mount.sh ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[04:35] <duanedesign> sudo mv unmount.sh ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[04:35] <duanedesign> or you can move them manually into the folder :)
[04:35] <ShadowKnight> okay i entered all of them :) thank you so much :)
[04:36] <duanedesign> great
[04:36] <ShadowKnight> thanks imma see if this works :) i owe you :D
[04:36] <duanedesign> so now when you r-click
[04:36] <duanedesign> you should see mount and unmount
[04:37] <duanedesign> in the scripts option
[04:37] <ShadowKnight> yea i see them :D can any cd be mounted or unmounted?
[04:38] <duanedesign> there is also an app gmountiso. I find the r-click thing easier. But different people like different things
[04:38] <ShadowKnight> okay then thank you this works for me :)
[04:40] <duanedesign> ShadowKnight: great
[04:40] <ShadowKnight> thanks duanedesign
[04:41] <duanedesign> ShadowKnight: yes you can mount all kinds of things :) that script uses mount
[04:41] <ShadowKnight> okay good :) thanks imma go try it out :D
[04:42] <duanedesign> ShadowKnight: this is a bit verbose
[04:42] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[04:42] <duanedesign> but if you googe the 'mount' command you might get an easier read
[04:42] <duanedesign> s/googe/google
[04:43] <ShadowKnight> okay then :) ill go read up on this :D you have been so helpful duanedesign i didnt even expect an answer lol
[04:43] <duanedesign> if someone is awake, we like to help.
[04:55] <ubuntubeginner> I seem to have lost the main menu for my folders can anyone help me show them again
[05:03] <tenach> ubuntubeginner, The menu on the top bar?
[05:04] <IdleOne> tenach: right click on the top panel > Add to Panel > main Menu
[05:04] <IdleOne> that should re-add the Applications/Places/System menu
[05:09] <ubuntubeginner> when i open my home folder I have no file edit menu on top..
[05:09] <ubuntubeginner> sorry should've been more clear
[05:13] <duanedesign> hmm
[05:14] <ubuntubeginner> I am not for sure how I even misplaced them. :-/
[05:19] <duanedesign> ubuntubeginner: you havent installed anything like 'global menu'
[05:19] <ubuntubeginner> is that the gnoMenu? I installed that   that's it
[05:19] <IdleOne> heh I just realized I responded to the wrong person
[05:24] <ubuntubeginner> duanedesign:is that the gnoMenu? I installed that   that's it
[05:26] <duanedesign> let me see
[05:29] <duanedesign> ubuntubeginner: looks like gnoMenu is a different project then global-menu. However that is likely the cause
[05:30] <ubuntubeginner> duanedesign: so how can I fix it??? Can it be fixed???
[05:31] <duanedesign> ubuntubeginner: did you install gnomenu from a package? or di you install it by running the commands 'make' 'make install'
[05:32] <ubuntubeginner> duanedesign: I ran commands
[05:33] <duanedesign> ok
[05:33] <duanedesign> ubuntubeginner: i thinkn i know how to uninstall it
[05:33] <duanedesign> Open a terminal type:     gksudo nautilus
[05:34] <ubuntubeginner> duanedesign: Ok
[05:34] <duanedesign> navigate to:   usr > share > gnomenu and delete the gnomenu folder
[05:35] <ubuntubeginner> duanedesign: Ok deleted
[05:35] <duanedesign> then you will probably have to reinstall nautilus to restore the .xml files it changed
[05:36] <duanedesign> i installed a 'simple nautilus' once and had a similar issue
[05:36] <ubuntubeginner> duanedesign: OK how do I reinstall?
[05:36] <duanedesign> the command would be:
[05:38] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus
[05:40] <ubuntubeginner> duanedesign: It finished will I need to restart my computer?
[05:40] <duanedesign> no
[05:40] <duanedesign> you can restart nautilus or log out and log back in
[05:40] <duanedesign> killall nautilus && nautilus &
[05:41] <duanedesign> should restart nautilus
[05:42] <ubuntubeginner> still no file menu
[05:43] <duanedesign> hmm, ok
[05:44] <ubuntubeginner> Did i hurt myself by installing that?
[05:45] <duanedesign> well get it
[05:45] <duanedesign> lets purge nautilus then reinstall
[05:45] <duanedesign> to make sure all the files get replaced
[05:46] <ubuntubeginner> ok
[05:46] <duanedesign> the command would be:
[05:46] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get purge nautilus && sudo apt-get install nautilus
[05:47] <duanedesign> purge is like remove but configuration files are deleted too
[05:48] <ubuntubeginner> ok it finished still no file menu
[05:48] <duanedesign> run :  killall nautilus
[05:48] <duanedesign> then run it again
[05:49] <duanedesign> does it say no process found?
[05:49] <ubuntubeginner> No it didnt say anything
[05:50] <duanedesign> ok. nautilus is not completely quitting. Mine does that sometimes
[05:50] <duanedesign> try log out
[05:50] <duanedesign>  and log back in
[05:50] <ubuntubeginner> ok I shall return
[05:50] <duanedesign> kk
[05:57] <duanedesign> ubuntubeginner: wb
[05:58] <ubuntubeginner> yeah i had to get on another computer cause when i logged out I couldn't log back in...
[05:58] <duanedesign> you cant log in?
[05:59] <ubuntubeginner> No when i click on the user name and type my password it just goes straight back to the login screen
[06:00] <ubuntubeginner> And the sessions thing down in the corner that shows up after you click on your username is disabled as well
[06:00] <duanedesign> can you try restarting it?
[06:00] <ubuntubeginner> doing that as we speak
[06:02] <ubuntubeginner> still nothing
[06:03] <duanedesign> and the only folder you deleeted was the gnomenu folder?
[06:03] <ubuntubeginner> yep thats the only one
[06:05] <duanedesign> ok
[06:08] <duanedesign> Try holding down <Ctrl><Alt>F2 to get into a console. Now, log in with your username and password to see if you can actually log in at all. And if you can, then we know that your username and password are good. It's Gnome then...
[06:09] <ubuntubeginner> Yep i just logged in
[06:09] <duanedesign> ok
[06:09] <duanedesign> run the command:
[06:10] <duanedesign> ls -la ~/.gconf
[06:10] <duanedesign> should look like: drwx------  57 duanedesign duanedesign  4096 2010-07-30 08:15 apps
[06:10] <duanedesign> with your name of course :)
[06:19] <ubuntubeginner1> Sorry stupid internet connection.....
[06:19] <duanedesign> ahh
[06:19] <ubuntubeginner1> Well... My laptop is dead for now... So thanks for all the help tho\
[06:20] <ubuntubeginner1> I will just use my wifes for now...
[06:20] <duanedesign> ubuntubeginner1: if you can log into a prompt
[06:21] <ubuntubeginner1> duanedesign: my laptop died so.. I cant do anything now... Sorry, but thanks for your help
[06:22] <duanedesign> http://paste.ubuntu.com/475279/
[06:22] <duanedesign> ok
[06:24] <ubuntubeginner1> I saved all the things you walked me through. So that when i get it up and running i can use it.... Thanks again
[06:24] <duanedesign> ubuntubeginner1: ok i got the commands in the paste
[06:24] <duanedesign> from a thread on the forums
[06:24] <duanedesign> about just your issue
[06:24] <duanedesign> though they might need sudo
[06:25] <duanedesign> so these 5 commands is where i would start http://paste.ubuntu.com/475279/
[06:26] <duanedesign> like i said i forgot to put sudo in front of them.
[06:26] <ubuntubeginner1> duanedesign: Thanks I will catch you again some other time
[09:42] <Silver_Fox_> Morning
[09:43] <shpongle> good morning Silver_Fox_
[09:43] <shpongle> and others as well :P
[09:43] <Silver_Fox_> Hello shpongle
[09:44] <Silver_Fox_> How are you?
[09:45] <shpongle> i'm just fine, thank you
[09:45] <shpongle> Silver_Fox_, and how are you doing?
[09:45] <Silver_Fox_> I am quite well thank you
[12:35] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:35] <phillw> hi duanedesign
[12:37] <duanedesign> hello phillw
[15:34] <Mohan_chml> hey arulalan
[15:34] <arulalan> Mohan_chml: Hai
[15:35] <arulalan> chidambaresan: Hi
[15:35] <Mohan_chml> Oh my God welcome chidambaresan and arulalan
[15:35] <Mohan_chml> both of you /join #ubuntu-beginners-team
[15:35] <Mohan_chml> arulalan: how is life??
[15:36] <arulalan> Mohan_chml: Joined
[15:36] <arulalan> Mohan_chml: Fine
[15:37] <Mohan_chml> wb chidambaresan
[15:37] <chidambaresan> hai
[15:37] <chidambaresan> hai mohan
[15:37] <chidambaresan> teach something ya
[15:38] <chidambaresan> hai
[15:38] <chidambaresan> hai arul
[15:39] <chidambaresan> ok
[17:39] <dkgbond3> hello all. i need some help regarding the grub. can anyone help?
[17:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> dkgbond3: shoot
[17:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> dkgbond3: hello
[17:45] <dkgbond3> got some help from the other channel. i'm trying. will ask if i face some problems. thanks :)
[17:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> sure thing dkgbond3 (:
[17:55] <dkgbond3> i uninstalled all but the most recent kernel. but still windows loader is missing from the grup list at startup. what can i do? :(
[17:55] <dkgbond3> i uninstalled all but the most recent kernel. but still windows loader is missing from the grup list at startup. what can i do? :(
[17:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> dkgbond3: hello
[17:57] <dkgbond3> hello
[17:57] <dkgbond3> please help
[17:58] <IAmNotThatGuy> please pastebin the result of the following
[17:58] <IAmNotThatGuy> open up terminal and type sudo fdisk -l
[17:58] <IAmNotThatGuy> and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[17:58] <dkgbond3> ok i'll do
[18:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> dkgbond3: and what version of windows you use?
[18:01] <dkgbond3> i'm using windows 7
[18:01] <dkgbond3> how to use pastebin?
[18:01] <dkgbond3> sorry for the nooby question
[18:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> open paste.ubuntu.com
[18:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> in your web browser
[18:02] <dkgbond3> yes. next
[18:02] <dkgbond3> where should i paste the content of terminal?
[18:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> select the contents from terminal and right click, copy and paste
[18:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> in contents tab of paste.ubuntu.com and click paste
[18:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> It will give you a link at the task bar and paste that here
[18:04] <asterismo> hi people
[18:04] <asterismo> just one question
[18:05] <asterismo> blackbox, openbox or fluxbox ?
[18:06] <dkgbond3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/475531/
[18:06] <dkgbond3> heya
[18:06] <dkgbond3> did that
[18:18] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: have you tried simply updating grub? sudo update-grub
[18:19] <hobgoblin> asterismo: depends who you ask - if you ask me fluxbox - if you ask paultag he'd say his fluxbox
[18:19] <dkgbond3> yes i did
[18:19] <dkgbond3> @hobgoblin: but no help
[18:20] <paultag_> hobgoblin: wha?
[18:20] <hobgoblin> paultag_: <asterismo> just one question <asterismo> blackbox, openbox or fluxbox ?
[18:20] <hobgoblin> ;)
[18:20] <paultag_> FLUXBOX!
[18:20] <hobgoblin> lol
[18:21] <paultag_> https://launchpad.net/~paultag/+archive/staging <-- bleeeeding edge Fluxbox in there
[18:21] <paultag_> /fluxbox is a bit more stable
[18:21] <paultag_> and also Debian branded
[18:21] <paultag_> staging is for winners
[18:22] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin: can we suggest dkgbond3 to check the installation of os prober??
[18:23] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: in a terminal run    sudo os-prober
[18:23] <hobgoblin> see what it says
[18:24] <hobgoblin> Mohan_chml: yea :)
[18:24] <Mohan_chml> (:
[18:25] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: if necessary we can build an entry for it
[18:25] <dkgbond3> os-prober does nothing :(
[18:26] <hobgoblin> k
[18:27] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: let's try this then - open a file for editing - run this command     gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[18:29] <hobgoblin> copy this stuff into the file, save it and close gedit    http://ubft.pastebin.com/e09XA74v   then run sudo update-grub again
[18:30] <hobgoblin> then cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg |grep menuentry   and see if the win entry is at the bottom
[18:30] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin: will the manual entering works??
[18:32] <hobgoblin> well it works for pclinuxos and parted magic
[18:32] <dkgbond3> should i try?
[18:32] <hobgoblin> and the forum has thread after thread with exactly the same thing
[18:32] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: yep
[18:33] <Mohan_chml> okay hobgoblin
[18:35] <dkgbond3> yes, now windows entry is there
[18:35] <dkgbond3> should i reboot now?
[18:35] <Mohan_chml> dkgbond3: yeah! reboot :)
[18:36] <dkgbond3> ok. thanks. see you all in a moment :)
[18:36] <hobgoblin> hope os
[18:39] <dkgbond3> heya. back
[18:39] <dkgbond3> but problem not solved
[18:39] <dkgbond3> i got the windows 7 loader option
[18:39] <dkgbond3> but when i hit enter it displays..
[18:39] <dkgbond3> error : no argument specified. press any key to continue
[18:43] <hobgoblin> ok - hang on a moment - needing tea
[18:44] <dkgbond3> okay. please allow me to have dinner too. hope you'll be there when i'm back in a while :)
[18:45] <hobgoblin> I suspect so :)
[18:49] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: can you go here and follow the instructions - when you get to the end instead of the stuff about posting it to a forum paste it into paste.ubuntu.com
[18:55] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: I  will show you were to go - that will be lots of help :) http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[19:03] <dkgbond3> heya
[19:12] <dkgbond3> @hobgoblin- http://paste.ubuntu.com/475557/
[19:14] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: looks like you have an issue with the win7 " Mounting failed: mount: unknown filesystem type ''
[19:15] <hobgoblin> if you have the win7 discs I would use them to fix the win bootloader - at that point you will lose the ubuntu bootloader so it will need reinstalling afterwards
[19:16] <dkgbond3> seriously i have no idea. until today evening, everything was ok. i was able to boot ubuntu as well as windows 7 from the grub menu. but when i updated ubuntu, the list was elongated and the windows option vanished
[19:16] <dkgbond3> can you please guide?
[19:17] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: updated?
[19:18] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: a system update from update manager?
[19:18] <dkgbond3> whose update? windows or ubuntu?
[19:19] <hobgoblin> ubuntu - I would have no idea at all about windows ;)
[19:20] <hobgoblin> what I am getting at was it a normal update or did you go from one version to the next
[19:23] <dkgbond3> i guess normal update in the Update Manager, to a new kernel. Not Upgraded to the new release 10.04
[19:24] <hobgoblin> k- well tbh I am not sure - I would be concerned about the error that gets flagged from the script, but it's a long time since I had much to do with windows - see if someone else can help
[19:25] <hobgoblin> maybe Mohan_chml is able to
[19:25] <dkgbond3> i have very less idea about ubuntu or grub, but what i think is the problem is that...
[19:25] <dkgbond3> my list of ubuntu kernels in the grub (at startup) was very long, with windows loader as one of the option. when i updated ubuntu today, another two items were added to the list and maybe for that the windows loader option, which was the belowmost, got erased
[19:26] <hobgoblin> oh - maybe try this then
[19:26] <dkgbond3> so, i just need to add my windows loader to the boot list, which you helped me to do. but its showing error, needing some parameteres
[19:26] <dkgbond3> *argument
[19:27] <Almost> I am dying trying to get my radeon hd 3450 card working in a dual monitor config using the ATI provide drivers and control center, It was working but then died. I re -installed os, re configured and now it wont install the driver package
[19:29] <Almost> can  i just remove all the drivers video drivers and start clean install ATI 10.7?
[19:30] <hobgoblin> dkgbond3: yep - I understand that, I don't though know how to get around the windows error. Also you appear to have 2 grubs installed - then new one and also the old version installed onto the smaller drive
[19:30] <dkgbond3> yes, i was considering that
[19:30] <dkgbond3> can i remove one of the grubs?
[19:33] <dkgbond3> needing reboot, see you in a few mins
[19:56] <ryan_> how can you get a webcam to work with the chat program? my friend has a webcam and it wont let me view it
[21:46] <RealEyes> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[21:47] <RealEyes> How do I get around this?
[21:52] <serfus> RealEyes, what were you trying to do when this came up?
[21:52] <RealEyes> install desktop drapes
[21:53] <RealEyes> from the software center
[21:54] <RealEyes> serfus, what should I do?
[21:54] <serfus> i don't know this
[21:54] <serfus> RealEyes, is it from the repositories?
[21:55] <RealEyes> idk
[21:55] <serfus> RealEyes, sec, i'll check
[21:57] <serfus> RealEyes, run in a terminal
[21:57] <serfus> RealEyes, sudo apt-get update
[21:58] <RealEyes> done
[21:58] <serfus> RealEyes, now try it
[21:58] <serfus> RealEyes, installing what you tried
[21:59] <RealEyes> its working now
[21:59] <serfus> RealEyes, yay :)
[21:59] <RealEyes> does ubuntu go out of date that fast?
[22:00] <serfus> RealEyes, it never happened to me but seems like it happens some times to other users... i really don't know why
[22:04] <RealEyes> there was a key symbol up in my menu bar
[22:04] <RealEyes> what was that?
[22:05] <serfus> RealEyes, never saw something like that... was it in the notification area?
[22:06] <RealEyes> net to my rythym box and mail icon
[22:07] <serfus> RealEyes, did you click on it?
[22:07] <RealEyes> yeah it was like 'disable all dropdown permissions' or something along those lines
[22:08] <RealEyes> but it disappeared
[22:08] <serfus> RealEyes, i guess it was a notification about your repository being out of date
[22:08] <RealEyes> hah
[22:08] <RealEyes> whats a repository?
[22:09] <serfus> RealEyes, check this doc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[23:34] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> is ubuntu server a NOS
[23:35] <stlsaint> NOS?
[23:36] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> network operating system
[23:38] <jacob> yes - any modern OS can be considered a NOS
[23:39] <jacob> but don't confuse it with software you'd put on routers; that's a more special case
[23:39] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> that what I was think but my professor wants us to pick one NOS and one OS and describe the process of hardening it from attacks and intruders.
[23:40] <jacob> ubuntu server would work well for that, there are plenty of hardening options available (see apparmor, ufw, etc)
[23:41] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> never use it so Im a little lost
[23:44] <stlsaint> ZeRoDeAtH50435: ubuntu server is awesome! you really should give it a go :D
[23:45] <tenach> I'm with stlsaint!
[23:45] <stlsaint> ZeRoDeAtH50435: it is very easy to harden it
[23:45] <stlsaint> Novell Netware, Artisoft's LANtastic, Microsoft Windows Server, and Windows NT are examples of an NOS.
[23:47] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah my IT secruity professor it like us he can't stand windows would rather use Linux
[23:47] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> do I have to have a server to run ubuntu server
[23:50] <stlsaint> nope
[23:50] <stlsaint> you can put it on anything
[23:50] <stlsaint> even a lappy :D
[23:52] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> well I am really going to have to try it out have another pc not being use so why not
[23:52] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> hey any of  ya'll know of a good Web site to buy computer parts
[23:52] <stlsaint> ZeRoDeAtH50435: start studying iptables, fail2ban, deny/allow.hosts for starters :D
[23:53] <stlsaint> ZeRoDeAtH50435: tigerdirect.com, newegg.com, geeks.com
[23:53] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok
[23:53] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> thanks
[23:54] <stlsaint> yep
[23:55] <tenach> stlsaint, fail2ban <3
[23:55] <stlsaint> tenach: ;)
[23:56] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> hey anyone play WoW on Linux
[23:56] <stlsaint> NO!!!
[23:56] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> lol just checkin to see if it works or not
[23:56] <stlsaint> it is possible though
[23:57] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I seen a thing for it on pol
[23:57] <stlsaint> ZeRoDeAtH50435: http://appdb.winehq.org/votestats.php
[23:58] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> thanks