[05:23] <dlbike76> Hello
[05:26] <dlbike76> Is anyone from BugSquad around?
[05:26] <micahg> dlbike76: for a couple minutes
[05:28] <dlbike76> Ok so I'm looking at bug 613504.  I have found a similar bug report at the upstream gnome bugtracker (#602494).
[05:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 613504 in gnome-media (Ubuntu) "maximum output volume is not reached with voume control (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613504
[05:28] <dlbike76> Is finding the upstream bug report enough to change the status to confirmed?
[05:28] <micahg> gnome 602494
[05:28] <ubot2> Gnome bug 602494 in gnome-volume-control "allow media keys, mouse scroll wheel to use volume >100% once active" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602494
[05:29] <maco> dlbike76: i would say yes
[05:29] <micahg> not exactly the same bug
[05:30] <dlbike76> Okay.
[05:30] <maco> oh yeah those arent the same
[05:30] <micahg> maco: you want to take over, I'm about to head to sleep
[05:30] <maco> but in cases where you DO find actually-matching bugs, yes, id call that confirmed
[05:30] <maco> micahg: not particularly :P
[05:38] <dlbike76> Thanks.  I'll keep looking.
[05:39] <maco> mmm well actually
[05:39] <maco> those do seem like the same UI bug
[05:39] <maco> 100% isnt the max is the thing
[05:39] <maco> so yeah go ahead and link them
[05:39] <maco> i just actually like, read the text ;-)
[05:40] <maco> instead of just titles
[05:47] <dlbike76> I notice the same behavior of the volume control applet on my machine.  The applet shows 100% but sound preferences allows a setting above 100%.
[11:06] <njin> vish: are you in ?
[11:07] <vish> njin: hey
[11:08] <njin> hggdh: around ?
[11:09] <njin> hvish: hello, can i go on with sending messages at mine bugs without packages or preferible wait my mentor ?
[11:09] <njin> vish: hello, can i go on with sending messages at mine bugs without packages or preferible wait my mentor ?
[11:10] <vish> njin: not sure i understood , you can work on bugs and just assign the bugs to the package and make the comments as you have been doing.. if thats what you meant ,yes! :)
[11:10] <njin> vish: yes
[11:12] <njin> Ok, i go on.
[11:38] <devildante> hi all :)
[12:28] <njin> CALL supervisors, I have a doubt. i'm assigned to bug without package assigned. At now I have treated bugs of jaunty. I've sent ~780 request of confirmation the issue in Lucid, i've received 193 reply (114 marked as Invalid due to update, 24 Confirmed, 6 converted to question, 3 duplicates, the remaining are waiting responses from reporters. My dubt is if I have to assign the package before than have the reply of the reproducibilit
[12:28] <njin> bug that probably never have reply from the reporter.
[12:30] <njin> So i'm asking: isn't better (only in the case of bugs regardin an old distro) triage it after i have received the reply from the reporters ?
[12:32] <micahg> well, if you can easily reproduce, there's no need to ask the reporter
[12:35] <njin> micahg: ok but these cases are few, majority are reported by one person that have, in most cases, hardware issues
[12:36] <njin> for me there's no problem, i don't want to disturb people with a lot of messages
[12:38] <njin> * i dont wnt to disturb supervisor with many messages that never have reply..
[12:39] <micahg> njin: what do you mean supervisor?
[12:39] <njin> Then for now i follow the procedure, assigning the package, but securely some supervisor will reply...
[12:39] <njin> supervisor of the package
[12:39] <yofel> bugs that are set to 'Ubuntu' don't have a maintainer and no direct subscriber
[12:40] <micahg> well, they still go to the ubuntu-bugs list
[12:40] <yofel> only the 'ubuntu-bugs' bot for the mailing list is subscribed to them, and the people that are subcribed to all ubuntu bugs
[12:41] <njin> the person that will be automatically subscribed to the bug
[12:41] <yofel> you mean the reporter?
[12:42] <njin> no, every package is assigned to a person or not ?
[12:43] <njin> the person that will be automatically subscribed to the bug when the bug is triaged
[12:43] <yofel> yes, but bugs against 'ubuntu' don't have a package, thus no specific person is subcribed to them
[12:43] <yofel> oh, you mean if you set the package and then send the mail?
[12:43] <njin> Yes
[12:44] <yofel> ah, misunderstood you, sry. Well, they get a mail anyway if a bug is set to their package with a notification that a new bug was added for that package
[12:44] <njin> and i'm talking of about 1600 bugs
[12:45] <yofel> so? it's not like you set all of them to the same package, and as you said not all of them are actually still bugs or have enough information to identify the package
[12:45] <njin> ah, ok then i triage then i send the request of confirmation of the issue in lucid.
[12:46] <njin> well?
[12:48] <yofel> well, IMHO the order doesn't matter. For old bugs certainly ask if they are still reproducable and ask for enough information to reproduce it and assign the package if possible.
[12:48] <micahg> yofel: well, bdmurray has said in the past if there are clear reproduce steps, we should rather try to reproduce than ask people for updates
[12:50] <yofel> err right, no need to ask for reproducability if we can reproduce the bug ourselves
[12:52] <micahg> njin: ^^^
[12:53] <njin> micahg: ok then i ask the right steps to reproduce the bug in jaunty ?
[12:53] <micahg> njin: no, if the user provides reproduce steps, you try to reproduce on Lucid/Maverick
[12:53] <njin> oh good notice
[12:55] <njin> Ok i go to work
[13:09] <hggdh> mornings
[13:09] <pedro_> morning hggdh
[13:10] <hggdh> morning pedro_
[13:22] <devildante> hi pedro_ :)
[13:23] <pedro_> hey devildante!
[13:26] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[13:26] <jibel> morning pedro_ , hggdh and all
[13:27] <pedro_> bonjour jibel
[13:27] <stanley_robertso> hi jibel
[13:28] <hggdh> jibel: !!!
[13:28] <hggdh> bon jour mon ami, ça va?
[13:39] <jibel> hggdh, ça va parfaitement et c'est une très bonne journée ;)
[13:40] <devildante> jibel, hggdh: bonjour à vous deux ;-)
[13:41] <jibel> bonjour devildante
[13:44] <pedro_> baguette!
[13:45] <gorilla> pedro_: and go!
[13:45] <pedro_> ;-)
[13:45] <devildante> we should rename this channel to #ubuntu-bugs-fr :p
[13:46]  * gorilla quits channel... and goes to re-join #ubuntu-bugs.
[13:47] <pedro_> reboot brb
[13:49] <hggdh> bonjour à toi devildante
[13:55] <hggdh> welcome back my friend / to the show that never ends / we are glad to have you here / come along, come along
[13:55]  * hggdh ends the moment of Emerson, Lake & Palmer
[13:56]  * hggdh goes to refresh libglib. Back in a moment
[14:12] <abhijit> hello
[14:12] <abhijit> just a request.!!!!!
[14:12] <abhijit> see here ;http://picasaweb.google.com/abhijit.foss/MyCoolDesktop#5496756959137758002 my dekstop photo!!!! :D :D :D
[14:13] <abhijit> http://picasaweb.google.com/abhijit.foss/MyCoolDesktop#5496756959137758002
[14:17] <abhijit> vish, kermiac ping
[14:22] <abhijit> :(
[14:28] <abhijit> :(
[14:46] <hggdh> er, what was that about?
[14:59] <kermiac> did abhijit ping me to show off his desktop?
[15:00] <hggdh> kermiac: yes, he did
[15:00] <devildante> yep, but he's gone
[15:00] <kermiac> haha, ok
[15:06] <hggdh> kermiac: I still owe you the script
[15:06] <hggdh> I did not forget, just got busy. (Again) trying it now ;-)
[15:08] <kermiac> hggdh: No probs hggdh, I've been busy with helping out another couple of projects anyway. Seems like Dray is busy with a lot of stuff atm too.
[15:08] <njin> i'm in trouble with this bug390012
[15:08] <kermiac> bug 390012
[15:08] <hggdh> kermiac: yes... we'll work on it
[15:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 390012 in ubuntu "[Kubuntu 9.04] Cannot extract audio from CD as ordinary user (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390012
[15:12] <njin> pedro_: welcome
[15:14] <kermiac> hggdh: I'm still interested in working on that, it will be a relatively long term project though. Please ping me if you get a chance to work on that script mate, no rush though as I'm working on a few other things atm. I'm off to bed for the night
[15:15] <kermiac> my sentence structure is basically non-existant atm
[15:15] <hggdh> kermiac: will do. What sentence structure? Oh, OK. The one that should have been there in the first place...
[15:15] <hggdh> at least there are commas
[15:16] <kermiac> haha, yeah... it's been a very long day
[15:18] <njin> can someone confirm this https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615126
[15:18] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 615126 in apt-file (Ubuntu) "apt-file: error in creating child process for this terminal (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[15:20] <vish> hmm , he aint here yet!
[15:20] <vish> err , he left rather...
[15:21] <vish> hggdh: guess he felt ignored :(
[15:21] <devildante> vish: guess we're all busy :(
[15:22] <vish> devildante: heya , poked mvo yet? ;p
[15:23] <mvo> about what exactly?
[15:24] <hggdh> njin: sorry, not running lucid. Will test on a VM soon
[15:24] <njin> ok, when you can.
[15:24] <njin> pedro_: around?
[15:25] <pedro_> njin, yes, hello
[15:25] <hggdh> njin: look at /var/log/apt/term.log
[15:25] <vish> mvo: https://code.launchpad.net/~ilidrissi.amine/update-manager/window-main-alerts/+merge/31091  , that fixes 4bugs mpt spec'd for update handling
[15:26] <mvo> yeah, I promised to look at it today
[15:26] <vish> cool!
[15:28] <njin> hggdh: The system-wide cache is empty. You may want to run 'apt-file update'  as root to update the cache. You can also run 'apt-file update' as  normal user to use a cache in the user's home directory.
[15:31] <njin> hggdh: in the terminal with root permission works
[15:33] <njin> pedro_: hello, sorry i,ve a problem with apt-file
[15:33] <devildante> vish, mvo: thanks :)
[15:48] <jibel> njin, hi, this is very likely bug 508089
[15:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 508089 in apt-file (Ubuntu) "apt-file fails 'There was an error creating the child process for this terminal' (affects: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/508089
[15:52] <njin> jibel: tanks, it the same, but in Lucid we still with the bugged version
[15:54] <njin> jibel: in Lucid we have 2.3.3 and the fixed version is 2.4.0
[15:54] <njin> wait for update then mark as invalid .
[15:57] <jibel> njin, You can mark it as duplicate and file an SRU for lucid. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[16:02] <njin> jibel: at now is too complicate for me
[16:04] <drizzle> hi all
[16:04] <njin> jibel: i've to made little step...
[16:10] <jibel> njin, no problem. Mark it as duplicate, I'll proceed with the sru.
[16:11] <njin> pedro_: i need a lesson ( how found duplicates on Lanchpad).
[16:11] <jibel> njin, btw I'm interested to know what seems too complicated in the stable release update process ?
[16:13] <njin> jibel: i'm a new entry and my little brain cannot be overloaded, just little step ( what means btw ?)
[16:14] <ashams> hello all
[16:14] <njin> ashams: hello
[16:15] <ashams> njin: how's your day?
[16:16] <ashams> njin: could you please tell me how to join the Ubuntu Bug Squad??
[16:16] <jibel> njin, I understand and you have a good mentor to help you. btw = by the way
[16:17] <hggdh> ashams: the easiest way is to read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs and follow the instructions pointed out there
[16:17] <hggdh> and we will help you on doubts
[16:17] <ashams> Ok, Thank You, I'll start to.
[16:18] <njin> jibel: thanks, is really a good person, my friends on iso-testing team speaks very well of him
[17:44] <micahg> hggdh: I"m assuming I should let my bugcontrol membership lapse since I'm a dev now?
[17:45] <drizzle> probably a personal call
[17:45] <drizzle> what do you do in development micahg
[17:45] <drizzle> ?
[17:45] <micahg> drizzle: maintain the mozilla package set
[17:46]  * micahg probably should've asked pedro_
[17:47] <ld> oh, nice
[17:48] <pedro_> micahg, congrats!!
[17:49] <pedro_> micahg, well your call re membership on bugcontrol :-)
[17:50] <micahg> pedro_: k, well, I'm an implicit member now through ubuntu-dev, so I don't see why I should keep it active
[17:51] <vish> om26er: heya , dont mark SC bugs "wont fix" if its not specked in the wiki yet, its still a baby and can be improved
[17:51] <pedro_> micahg, yeap but if you are interested on staying on the mailing list i think you need to be a member of the team
[17:51] <om26er> vish, ok. and I no longer triage SC bugs
[17:52] <micahg> pedro_: right, but I am a member through ubuntu-dev, no?
[17:52] <pedro_> micahg, besides that, as you said you'll get the same rights on ubuntu-dev
[17:52] <pedro_> micahg, well i don't exactly recall how launchpad works on that :-P
[17:53] <micahg> pedro_: if it breaks, I'll bug you Wed :)
[17:53] <vish> om26er: ah , cool , i noticed this Bug #597958 only recently
[17:53] <pedro_> micahg, heh ok ;-)
[17:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 597958 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Make easy to launch installed apps for novice Ubuntu users (dup-of: 420517)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597958
[17:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 420517 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Installed apps: "where-to" and open button (affects: 12) (dups: 5) (heat: 80)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420517
[17:53] <micahg> pedro_: team meeting tomorrow?
[17:53] <om26er> vish, that was the last bug I triaged ;)
[17:54] <pedro_> micahg, yes, will send the reminder in a bit
[17:54] <vish> om26er: lol!
[17:55] <hggdh> micahg: yes, ubuntu-dev grants automatic membership to -control
[17:56] <hggdh> micahg: anything goes wrong, it is always pedro_'s doing ;-)
[17:56] <pedro_> !
[17:56] <hggdh> :-)
[17:56] <pedro_> see that's why we don't tell you our secret!
[17:56] <hggdh> grrrrr
[17:57] <vish> pedro_: you dint tell him yet right?!
[17:57] <pedro_> vish, course not!
[17:57] <nigelb> hahaha
[17:57] <vish> \o/
[17:57] <pedro_> tomorrow at the meeting we can tell him another clue
[18:01]  * micahg will pay attention to the meeting time this month :)
[18:02]  * hggdh will also...
[18:05] <kamusin> !ping devildante
[18:05] <ubot2> Factoid 'ping devildante' not found
[18:05] <devildante> hi kamusin :)
[18:07] <kamusin> hey ,  have you listened last message (from BugSquad meeting that we will have tomorrow)?
[18:07] <devildante> kamusin: Yes, I'll be attending
[18:08] <kamusin> super :)
[18:08] <devildante> anyway, hopefully mvo will review my branches today :)
[18:10] <kamusin> I hope so, or tomorrow devildante will execute a sudo rm -fr *software-center* hah
[18:10] <pedro_> !
[18:10] <devildante> !!
[18:10] <pedro_> because he's 'devil' :-O
[18:11]  * pedro_ hugs devildante and kamusin
[18:11]  * devildante hugs pedro_
[18:13] <devildante> I love you all guys :)
[18:13] <kamusin> haha and has a long sword  like a good Sith (he tolds me that)
[18:15] <njin> in a case like this what is the procedure ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/390004
[18:15] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 390004 in linux (Ubuntu) "Eeepc 900a won't switch to audio line-in (affects: 1) (heat: 15)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[18:47] <vish> !ping | vish
[18:47] <ubot2> vish, please see my private message
[18:48] <nigelb> that isn't right
[18:48] <hggdh> what?
[18:48] <elopio> hello there
[18:48] <elopio> my thunderbird is crashing but I don't know how to debug it.
[18:48] <elopio> "thunderbird" is not a binary, so gdb doesn't start it
[18:48] <elopio> and if I use /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.6/thunderbird-bin, when gdb starts it can't find libmozjs.so
[18:48] <elopio> is there any guide?
[18:48] <devildante> hggdh: vish pinged vish, and vish isn't even here
[18:49] <hggdh> oooohhh
[18:49] <nigelb> hggdh: it isn't supposed to do PM with |, PM is with > like
[18:49] <hggdh> cool
[18:49] <nigelb> !ping > nigelb
[18:49] <vish> huh! why? that /was/  me pinging myself :D
[18:49] <ubot2> nigelb, please see my private message
[18:49] <nigelb> !ping | nigelb
[18:49] <hggdh> oh, you are not a bot?
[18:49] <vish> not yet ;p
[18:49] <hggdh> :-)
[18:50] <devildante> vish: weird, I don't even see you in the "contact" list in empathy
[18:50] <vish> devildante: yeah , empathy is silly , it aint too good for irc
[18:51] <nigelb> +1
[18:51] <devildante> +42
[18:51] <hggdh> I humbly suggest weechat
[18:52] <devildante> or rather +10.10 :p
[18:52] <njin> what can i do here ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/390004
[18:52] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 390004 in linux (Ubuntu) "Eeepc 900a won't switch to audio line-in (affects: 1) (heat: 15)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[18:52]  * hggdh is running 3.3.rc2
[18:52] <devildante> hggdh: okay, will look at it later
[18:52] <hggdh> devildante: if you are running Maverick, I have the GIT version in my pPA
[18:52] <devildante> oh, great
[18:53] <drizzle> i like pidgin
[18:54] <njin> pedro_: i need your help
[18:55] <hggdh> I gave up on pidgin and xchat.
[18:55] <nigelb> hggdh: irssi ftw!
[18:55] <nigelb> or quassel+quassel core
[18:56] <devildante> i sense a flamewar coming :p
[18:56] <drizzle> is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maximus/+bug/615454 wishlist?
[18:56] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 615454 in maximus (Ubuntu) "split screen mode needed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:57] <drizzle> how come there isnt a default response for bugs that are missing flavor, version, architecture and all the standard details like:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/euca2ools/+bug/615442
[18:57] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 615442 in euca2ools (Ubuntu) "euca-describe-users fails with ImportError: No module named euca_admin.users (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[19:31] <hggdh> drizzle: this is a good bug
[19:31] <hggdh> I know, I opened it ;-)
[19:31] <hggdh> the version is there -- the euca-version output
[19:33] <hggdh> but I agree at least I could have added Ubuntu version. At least. probably more
[19:33] <drizzle> i forgot to check attached documents
[19:34] <drizzle> still would be good to have a standard bug response that asks for details like that
[19:34] <drizzle> ..i think
[19:35] <hggdh> there is
[19:37] <hggdh> drizzle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Not%20described%20well
[19:38] <hggdh> drizzle: it falls smack on on 'not described well'. Obviously, you would edit the response and add the specifics for the case
[19:39] <drizzle> my mistake
[19:39] <drizzle> i must have missed it
[19:39] <drizzle> <3
[19:40] <drizzle> im down in austin
[19:42] <hggdh> and I am in the Dallas/Forth Worth area. You are better off in Austin :-)
[19:49] <jfi> Hello
[19:49] <valsum> jfi: hello
[19:52] <jfi> Is there somebody with a Gigabyte GA-D525TUD, there are bad values with sensors, someone can confirm it? I would like to ensure that I don't have a faulty HW before submiting a kernel bug
[19:53] <jfi> correction, that's Gigabyte GA-D510UD
[20:03] <drizzle> you will probably hav eto google it
[20:03] <drizzle> @jfi
[20:05] <jfi> drizzle, yep, already googled, I just found http://sites.google.com/site/klaasdc/atom-d510-linux-server where you can see also sensors wrong values (in my case the coretemp is invalid too)
[20:06] <drizzle> confirmed
[20:06] <drizzle> right?
[20:07] <jfi> well, the webpage does not even mention if it is ubuntu and my sensors output is a little bit different (coretemp)
[20:10] <drizzle> is it ubuntu specific or kernel level?
[20:43] <jfi> drizzle, I don't know, I guess it can be kernel level or due to the default config files or sensors-detect
[20:53] <drizzle> thats touch
[20:53] <drizzle> tough
[20:53] <drizzle> im a noob on those kind of things
[21:24] <yofel> if my power button doesn't do anything (well, not send an acpi event at least) when pressed, that would be a kernel bug right?
[21:38] <vish> argh!!!   :/
[21:38] <vish> Bug #270206 was fixed and now someone wants to update title!
[21:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 270206 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Rhythmbox should never start minimised to tray (affects: 36) (dups: 6) (heat: 177)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270206
[21:39] <vish> unnecessary spam! :/
[21:39] <jfi> yofel, or a bios setting which disable it? :-)
[21:40] <yofel> well, holding it pressed will cause a poweroff, but might as look through the settings before reporting the bug
[21:40] <yofel> *as well look...
[22:20] <micahg> anyone have an apt-cache issue after today's updates in lucid? (update-manager)
[22:22] <devildante> micahg: apt-cache and apt-get are saying something like "*.save file is not recognisable" after each operation
[22:26] <chrisccoulson> devildante, that's only in maverick though. micahg is asking about lucid
[22:26] <micahg> chrisccoulson: you think I should file a regression-update bug?
[22:27] <chrisccoulson> micahg - what's the actual issue?
[22:27] <chrisccoulson> i've not tried updating my lucid desktop for a week or so actually
[22:27] <micahg> chrisccoulson: Red Exclamation point saying cache is out of date
[22:27] <micahg> I update it daily, several times/day in fact
[22:28] <micahg> update manager GUI says last updated 104 days ago
[22:28]  * micahg tries something
[22:30] <micahg> I had a repo that was inaccessible and after the update it kept saying cache out of date, I removed it and it disappered
[22:30] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ^^
[22:31] <chrisccoulson> which repo was that?
[22:31] <chrisccoulson> although, i don't suppose it matters
[22:31] <micahg> xerox openprinting that jockey added
[22:32] <micahg> bug 574471
[22:32] <ubot2> micahg: Bug 574471 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/574471 is private
[22:32]  * micahg kicks ubot2 for bad info
[22:32] <devildante> seconded :p
[22:34] <KE1HA> Hey all, I've got a bug I can't seem to trap. piix4_SMbus is uninitialized, upgrade BIOS or force_addr_0xaddr  This happens only at boot time, but have no idea where to track this down. Andy advise?
[22:59] <falconner> hi
[22:59] <falconner> i found somthing not quite a bug tho
[23:00] <falconner> is anyone here?
[23:02] <falconner> there is no statagey sec in the software center under games