[03:32] <nigelb> JFo: cool pic on facebook :)
[04:10] <highvoltage> goodnight everyone!
[04:11] <nigelb> night highvoltage :)
[04:43] <duanedesign> 'lo nigelb
[04:43]  * nigelb waves to duanedesign 
[04:44] <nigelb> just bout to step out to work
[04:44] <duanedesign> nigelb: i was working on some strategies to bring attention to a team. I wanted to ask how often you guys blog about the cleansweep
[04:44] <nigelb> weelkly
[04:45] <duanedesign> thanks
[04:45] <duanedesign> o/
[04:45] <duanedesign> safe trip to work
[06:13] <doctormo> pleia2, jono: http://doctormo.org/2010/08/07/lousy-cold/
[06:14] <doctormo> Had a fun time, came home a day early.
[06:31] <nigelb> doctormo: I think a lot of people said that about UDS :D
[06:32]  * nigelb hides from dholbach and cz[tab]
[06:34] <doctormo> nigelb: That they come home a day early?
[06:46]  * duanedesign just figured out there are two clipboards in Ubuntu.
[06:47] <duanedesign> gtk clipboard(ctrl + v), x clipboard(middle click), huh
[06:49] <IdleOne> nice middle click is both copy and paste
[06:50] <nigelb> yep, I use the middle click one quite often
[06:50] <nigelb> doctormo: no, they went throgh it and christened it ubuflu
[06:50] <duanedesign> i was trying to access the clipboard from my python app. Now i dont know which one I want :)
[06:50] <doctormo> nigelb: Went through one?
[06:51] <doctormo> duanedesign: You want them all!
[06:51] <IdleOne> duanedesign: key combo :)
[06:51] <duanedesign> :) guess that would be optimal
[06:51] <IdleOne> remember in terminal it is ctrl+shift+c/v
[06:54] <doctormo> IdleOne: In _some_ terminals, gnome-terminal for instance.
[06:55] <IdleOne> thought ctrl+c was the samein all terminals.
[06:55] <IdleOne> +space where needed
[06:58] <nigelb> doctormo: I think all of them got sick at Belgium during uds
[06:58] <nigelb> I remember dholbach and laura cussing about ubuflu
[06:58] <nigelb> btw, today I'm going to listen to uupc to hear czajkowski being referred to as cz[tab] :D
[06:59] <doctormo> nigelb: Funny, I didn't get sick at Belguim or Texas. I wonder if I got lucky.
[07:00] <kim0> morning folks
[07:00] <doctormo> Hey Kim0
[07:00] <kim0> lol @ cz[tab] :)
[07:02] <nigelb> morning kim0 :)
[07:03] <kim0> doctormo: nigelb hey there folks
[07:03] <nigelb> I think she'll whip me when she sees the scrollback :D
[07:38] <ara> morning all
[07:47] <dpm> good morning all!
[07:52] <kim0> dpm: morning man
[07:55] <dpm> hey, morning kim0 :)
[07:57] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <ara> morning dholbach, dpm, kim0
[07:58] <dholbach> hola ara!
[07:58]  * kim0 waves hi to everyone 
[07:58] <dpm> morgen dholbach, buenos días ara!
[07:58] <dholbach> hola dpm, kim0
[07:59] <dholbach> how are you all doing?
[07:59] <dpm> on a Monday morning?
[07:59] <dpm> slowly waking up
[07:59] <kim0> Enjoying this fantabulous day :)
[07:59] <dholbach> dpm: I know what you mean :)
[07:59] <dpm> :)
[07:59] <kim0> lazy boys .. hehe
[07:59] <nigelb> morning ara, dholbach and dpm :)
[08:00] <nigelb> looks like kim0 is waking up earlier than you all ;)
[08:00] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[08:00] <kim0> that's because the clock is to my advantage
[08:00] <dpm> hey nigelb - he's got the advantage of an earlier time zone :)
[08:00] <nigelb> haha
[08:00] <nigelb> dholbach: your turn today for stats?
[08:00] <kim0> DST is being switched off though .. I'll be up with both of you guys soon
[08:01] <nigelb> ugh, I hate dst transitions
[08:01] <nigelb> meetings are a mess for weeks
[08:01] <dholbach> nigelb: it's not in my calendar, so it must be somebody else :)
[08:01] <nigelb> ah, jcastro !
[08:02] <nigelb> jcastro: your turn for cleansweep stats today!
[08:02] <dholbach> I think jcastro's on holidays this week
[08:04] <jussi> Mondays... :/
[08:11] <kim0> Aren't people supposed to be back to work "fresh" from the weekends :)
[08:12] <jussi> kim0: its a myth
[08:12] <kim0> hehe
[08:12] <jussi> we had the most awesome storm here last night
[08:13] <jussi> there was lightning every 5-10 seconds or so, it was very strange, Ive never seen anything like it.
[08:13] <kim0> talk about an active weather
[08:13] <kim0> Cairo is just sunny all the time .. that's boring
[08:14] <jussi> We just moved to a house int the middle of nowhere, and it was way better than being in the city
[08:16] <jussi> oooh, found some pics :) http://www.kaleva.fi/index.cfm?m=alasivu&osio=lukijakuva&lkuva=273449&sivu=0;10;0
[08:17] <nigelb> jussi: whoa
[08:18] <nigelb> kim0: a lot of people would prefer that.
[08:18] <jussi> Im not one of them :)
[08:18] <kim0> people will prefer what they don't have :)
[08:18] <nigelb> exactly
[08:18]  * nigelb prefers cold and snow or just plain sun
[08:18] <nigelb> instead of hot and humid
[08:31] <vish> hmm , did maverick+1 get christened yet?
[09:01] <dholbach> nigelb: so as I said, I think jcastro's on holidays - I can blog today and mention the next hug day too
[09:01] <dholbach> nigelb: but I don't think I can do any more planning/organisation this week
[09:19] <dholbach> hola randa_!
[09:21] <randa_> hi dholbach
[09:23] <huats> morning everyone !
[09:25] <dholbach> salut huats
[09:46] <czajkowski> Morning folks
[09:47] <jussi> huomenta czajkowski
[09:56] <czajkowski> dpm: http://freelancejobs.ie/job/51/english-catalan-translation-at-blacknight-internet-solutions-ltd/  if you know of anyone
[10:31] <dpm> czajkowski, thanks, I will forward it to our list, but their ad is not particularly rich on details :)
[10:32] <czajkowski> I'd assume it's for their hosting, blacknight.com
[10:56] <nigelb> dholbach: I can team up with pedro for the planning/organization
[10:57] <dholbach> nigelb: I set up the very basic wiki page: UbuntuBugDay/20100812
[10:57] <dholbach> nigelb: I just wanted something I can link to
[10:58] <nigelb> dholbach: I'll need to look at it later today when I get off work.
[10:58] <dholbach> rock!
[10:58] <dholbach> blogging now
[11:02] <nigelb> \o/
[11:03] <nigelb> next time we'll get jcastro to do 2 weeks!
[11:03] <dholbach> nigelb: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=758
[11:18]  * nigelb hugs dholbach 
[11:18] <popey> hullo!
[11:18] <czajkowski> there are 142 ish teams and we only have 8 signed up http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/195/detail/ :(
[11:19] <nigelb> afternoon popey :)
[11:19] <nigelb> czajkowski: global jam?
[11:19] <nigelb> I will once I get the time to announce it for my loco.
[11:19] <czajkowski> nigelb: aye
[11:19] <nigelb> I got the venue and stuff already :)
[11:19] <czajkowski> cool
[11:19]  * nigelb => coffee
[11:19]  * dholbach hugs nigelb back
[11:44] <nigelb> dholbach: where in the world do you get the images? o.O
[11:45] <nigelb> the picture you used in the blogpost was *awesome*
[12:08] <nigelb> wow -
[12:08] <nigelb> I"m ready for Monday. Hope Monday is ready.
[12:08] <nigelb> gomerx  - 5 mins ago - Gwibber
[12:12] <Pendulum> nigelb: there is no such thing as "ready for Monday"
[12:13] <Pendulum> it sneaks up on you :(
[12:13] <nigelb> Pendulum: heh, I tend to agree.
[12:14] <nigelb> Pendulum: that was from somone on identi.ca
[12:15] <czajkowski> every day is a monday these days
[12:15] <jussi> hrr
[12:15] <jussi> monday
[12:16] <popey> \o/ monday
[12:16] <popey> best day of the week
[12:16]  * jussi sighs tiredly
[12:16]  * nigelb wonders if popey is sane
[12:16] <czajkowski> popey: you're very odd
[12:17] <jussi> popey: is that an "yay, back to work, away from that pesky family"? :P :P :P *G*
[12:17] <popey> :D
[12:17] <popey> http://popey.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/IMG_0079.jpg my pesky son :)
[12:17] <czajkowski> awww cute kid
[12:17] <jussi> popey: I noticed that one. cute kid :)
[12:18] <popey> he _loves_ riding on my shoulders
[12:19] <czajkowski> popey: how old is Sam?
[12:21] <popey> he'll be 4 next month
[12:21] <czajkowski> aww he looks older
[12:21] <nigelb> popey: cute kid :)
[12:22] <popey> thanks, i am somewhat biassed but, I agree ;)
[12:22] <czajkowski> hehe just showed my dad, he said you used to be that size then you grew up.... sigh then started to shake his head.
[12:22] <czajkowski> poor dad he has 2 daughters :) we're the reason he has grey hair
[12:22] <nigelb> I'm pretty sure he's smart enough to figure out how to ride on dada's shoulders *all* the time
[12:22] <nigelb> czajkowski: with daughters like you.....
[12:22]  * nigelb runs.  Fast.
[12:22] <popey> oh yeah, he just stands in front of me with his back to me and his arms in the air
[12:22] <popey> "Daddy! Up! Up!"
[12:23] <Pendulum> czajkowski: bah, my father has more greyhairs from my brother than me :P
[12:23]  * nigelb is the only son.
[12:23] <nigelb> I caused more than enough grey hairs already
[12:23] <nigelb> and I'm not yet 25!
[12:23] <nigelb> popey: smart kid ;)
[12:24] <czajkowski> I remember it was lashing rain one night I was 17 should have been home by 1am and it was almost 3am had been out drinking with mates, forgot the time, no taxis around, rang home dad came to collect me, there was much frowning , but that's what dads are for :)
[12:24] <czajkowski> having a mobile at 17 was unheard of, so folks were wondering where the hell I was
[12:25] <nigelb> haha, that happened to me recently.
[12:25] <nigelb> My phone was not working for 2 days.  Mom tried calling me for days.  She got scared and called work.  They said I was late (traffic that day)
[12:25] <Pendulum> my parents' rule was that we always have $20 for a taxi and we'd get one no questions asked ring for a ride in the middle of the night
[12:25] <jussi> I blame all of my 11 brothers and sisters for my parents grey ones. Im perfect ::P
[12:25] <nigelb> She got even more scared
[12:26] <nigelb> finally when I did call her back I endured like 20 minutes of bashing.
[12:26] <jussi> Its all their fault, I tells you!
[12:27] <nigelb> jussi: 11? wow
[12:27] <nigelb> so you're 12 kids?
[12:27] <czajkowski> meh the only thing they care about now, is when do I find a job and move out again as my sister could be home in october :(
[12:27] <czajkowski> jussi: sweet god are your folks Irish or something, 12!!
[12:27] <jussi> nigelb: there are 12 children in my family, yes
[12:27] <nigelb> czajkowski: wait, they want you to move out for your sister? o.O
[12:27] <jussi> czajkowski: haha
[12:27] <nigelb> jussi: wowwowow
[12:27] <czajkowski> nigelb: nope just having us both back is going to be very odd
[12:27] <nigelb> must be fun to grow up in such a big home
[12:28] <nigelb> czajkowski: Ah.
[12:28] <jussi> czajkowski: first 2 questions I used to get asked:  1. are you catholic, and 2. do you have a TV? the answer to both was no...
[12:28] <nigelb> lol @ 2nd question
[12:29] <czajkowski> heh
[12:29] <czajkowski> mum came from a family of 5, she wanted as many but had to stop after 2 due to blood pressure. I have a ton of cousins :)
[12:30] <jussi> czajkowski: My Mum was from 10 and Dad from 7 - guess how manu cousins I have ;)
[12:30] <czajkowski> jussi: you mum wanted to beat her mums record was it
[12:30] <jussi> haha
[12:30] <czajkowski> jussi: lotta wedding invites
[12:31] <jussi> czajkowski: nah, I barely know many of them...
[12:31] <czajkowski> jussi: your siblings
[12:31] <nigelb> czajkowski: my dad comes from a family of 11
[12:31] <nigelb> I don't know how many cousins I have.
[12:31] <jussi> czajkowski: yeah, none of them are coming though
[12:32] <jussi> its just too damn far. They all chipped in so my parents could come though.
[12:33] <nigelb> jussi: Wel, um, noone asked you to fall in love with a pretty finnish girl ;)
[12:33] <jussi> hahaha
[12:39] <dholbach> nigelb: it's where my sister lives in Berlin
[12:39] <nigelb> dholbach: there is actually an address called bugday?
[12:39] <nigelb> or you gimp'd it in?
[12:40] <dholbach> nigelb: a person
[12:40] <nigelb> dholbach: WOW
[12:48] <duanedesign> we have a town in Oklahoma called loco. The Oklahoma LoCo has been trying to hold a state wide loco meetup in loco :)
[12:49] <nigelb> hahahaha
[12:49] <nigelb> that should be fun
[13:26] <nigelb> jussi: what do you work as?
[13:26] <nigelb> (thought came up when I saw your recent share on fb of that article)
[13:27] <jussi> nigelb: which share?
[13:28]  * jussi is a marketing exec for a small finnish phone producer.
[13:28] <nigelb> jussi: the one about flash....
[13:28] <jussi> nigelb: ahh
[13:28] <nigelb> finnish phone producer - Nokia! :p
[13:28] <jussi> small?
[13:35] <dholbach> alright, I'll work the rest of the day from home - be back in a few minutes
[15:11] <maco> czajkowski: speaking of beating mum's record, i have one cousin who is one of 8 boys. he wants to have 9 boys, then his wife is "allowed" to have a girl
[15:11] <czajkowski> lol
[15:13] <czajkowski> my dad wasn;t fussed, mum wanted girls.  I still got electronic kits and remote controlled cars for christmas as well as dolls and sewing stuff
[15:13] <czajkowski> best of both worlds
[15:16] <AlanBell> duanedesign: they could then have one down in Acapulco
[15:16] <highvoltage> maco: "allowed"!?
[15:17] <maco> highvoltage: yeah
[15:17] <highvoltage> czajkowski: cool, so you got double the gifts
[15:17] <maco> highvoltage: only, they're catholic, so no abortion (*vehemently* no abortion), so.... she has to magically make them happen in the right order
[15:17] <highvoltage> shew
[15:18] <highvoltage> I'm not specifically or particularly strongly anti-abortion, but having an abortion just because the kid isn't the gender you wanted is right up there with the awfulllest things I've ever heard
[15:18] <maco> agreed
[15:19] <maco> common in some parts of the world though :(
[15:19]  * highvoltage didn't know that :(
[15:19] <maco> im still not sure how she's supposed to make them in the right order though :P  .... particularly since it's his half that chooses the sex!
[15:20] <maco> very henry8...
[15:20] <czajkowski> maco: I think it depends on the level of commitment to the religon tbh, I know many who are fine it and are catholic
[15:20] <vish> highvoltage: "female infanticide"
[15:20] <czajkowski> but I dont think religion is a topic for an Ubuntu channel
[15:20] <maco> czajkowski: um i know my cousins
[15:20] <maco> czajkowski: they are VERY anti-abortion
[15:29] <czajkowski> so todays mini project - We have currently http://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/europe/  GREAT.  but it's lacking at least for Ireland so I went and created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/SysAdminSupport  and the people there aren't listed on the Market, which means now we have more contacts to help :D
[16:02] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:02] <jono> dholbach, hey
[16:02] <jono> kim0, just give me a few mins
[16:03] <kim0> jono: okie
[16:05] <jono> kim0, logging in now
[16:22] <doctormo> maco: This is perhaps why Ubuntu can't be considered a religion, it's not mad enough.
[16:26] <paultag> doctormo: bah. kumbaya or else
[16:27]  * AlanBell is adding insanity as fast as possible
[16:28] <paultag> Anytime we can make the world an odder place is a good time for me.
[16:33] <nigelb> highvoltage: sadly that happens too often in india
[16:33] <nigelb> all indians want only boys :/
[16:34] <nigelb> my mom wanted a girl I think though.
[16:35] <nigelb> not *instead* of me, but another kid.
[16:36]  * dpm takes a short break
[16:36] <highvoltage> nigelb: wow, I didn't know.
[16:36] <highvoltage> my mother wanted girls and only had two boys. so now her poor dogs have to suffer having to wear dresses, etc
[16:36] <nigelb> hahaha
[16:36] <highvoltage> *suffer wearing dresses, etc
[16:36] <nigelb> be glad its not you :p
[16:37] <paultag> heyya nigelb
[16:40] <nigelb> morning paultag
[16:41] <paultag> nigelb: morning :)
[16:41] <paultag> wait a second... it's not morning in india!
[16:41]  * nigelb is getting ready to hit the bed after an exilarating monday :)
[16:41] <paultag> nigelb: nice :D
[16:42] <paultag> nigelb: I almost have a patch ready for Ubuntu's Fluxbox :)
[16:42] <nigelb> woohooo!
[16:43] <paultag> nigelb: it should be OK, but I'm not sure if I did anything wrong :/
[16:43] <paultag> nigelb: I'm still a far cry from MOTU
[16:44] <nigelb> paultag: become DD, MOTU is easy afterwards
[16:44] <nigelb> paultag: Also you can apply for PPU
[16:45] <paultag> nigelb: I could have already done DM, but that's not anything for credit to MOTU, and I don't think I will become DD, it's very hard
[16:45] <nigelb> then PPU is the way to go.  Take care of your debian packages in ubuntu
[16:45] <paultag> I'd really like to
[16:46] <paultag> What's the process for getting PPU rights?
[16:46] <JFo> submit an app to the DMB iirc
[16:47] <JFo> or rather
[16:47] <JFo> the Technical Board maybe
[16:47] <paultag> do I need a sponsor or anything?
[16:47]  * JFo forgets
[16:47] <nigelb> DMB!
[16:47] <paultag> dave matthews band!
[16:47]  * nigelb pokes JFo in the eye.
[16:47]  * JFo adds it to the rest of today
[16:48] <JFo> paultag, I think so
[16:48] <JFo> but I am not completely sure
[16:48] <nigelb> paultag: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#PerPackage
[16:48] <paultag> thanks JFo, I'll follow up with that
[16:48] <JFo> cool
[16:48]  * paultag hugs nigelb 
[17:03] <nigelb> ok, folks! We (Maia and me) need your help.  We're re-branding "Behind MOTU" since everyone in ~ubuntu-dev would be included.  We'd like you suggestions for name!
[17:07] <vish> nigelb: "Behind Ubuntu" ;)
[17:07] <nigelb> There's already one
[17:07] <nigelb> We decided on "In the Circle"
[17:07] <paultag> Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers
[17:07]  * maco tickles paultag
[17:07] <nigelb> hahaha
[17:07] <vish> +1 to paultag :)
[17:07] <nigelb> paultag: thats copyrighted and patented probably
[17:07] <paultag> :P
[17:07] <paultag> Oh noes!
[17:07]  * paultag giggles
[17:07] <paultag> stop it maco
[17:07] <paultag> :)
[17:08] <paultag> sheesh
[17:08] <nigelb> ok, AlanBell wins it!
[17:08] <paultag> awwwww!
[17:08] <vish> ha! paultag is ticklish even over irc!
[17:09] <paultag> vish: i'ts really bad, actually
[17:09] <paultag> I'm the worst
[17:09]  * nigelb hugs paultag.
[17:09] <nigelb> Me too.
[17:09] <paultag> :)
[17:09] <nigelb> which is why I hate someone touch me for anything
[17:10] <nigelb> dad loves to irritate me that way.
[17:10] <paultag> if I know it's coming, im OK
[17:10] <paultag> but god forbid someone sneak-tickles me
[17:10] <paultag> that's the worst
[17:10] <nigelb> hahaha
[17:13] <paultag> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Paultag/DeveloperApplication <-- anyone wants to comment, shamless plug here ( you don't have to endorse me if you don't want to )
[17:14] <nigelb> paultag: get your team member in debian to leave one.
[17:14] <nigelb> Helps if the person knows your packaging skills
[17:14] <paultag> nigelb: he is out for a long time, his dad just died, and he speaks very poor english, only russian :(
[17:15] <paultag> nigelb: but I will ask him, yeah :)
[17:15] <nigelb> paultag: Somone like pleia2 would do.
[17:15] <nigelb> She worked with you before :)
[17:15] <paultag> nigelb: Ah, aye. We ended up getting the package out of Debian :'(
[17:15] <nigelb> paultag: if you can bribe maco to leave you one that would be good too ;)
[17:15] <nigelb> paultag: oh oh, nhandler !!
[17:16] <paultag> Yeah, but I don't want to ask anyone who has not worked with me on a package to endorse me or anything
[17:16] <paultag> that's kinda cheep and might give them a bad 'rap if I end up screwing up
[17:16] <nigelb> paultag: small letter "F"
[17:16] <paultag> nigelb: dur, yeah, it's not done yet :)
[17:17] <nigelb> paultag: its like a resume.  Never. Make. A. Spelling. Mistake. ;)
[17:17] <paultag> nigelb: hahaha aye, but after all I just did this in about 30 minutes and i'm at work :)
[17:18] <paultag> nigelb: I'll polish it later, it's not out of the oven or anything :)
[17:18] <nigelb> heh :)
[17:19] <nigelb> paultag: know anyone on dmb? somone who's worked with you on something?
[17:19] <nigelb> if so, they can testify for you there.
[17:20] <paultag> nigelb: nixternal, but not well. That's it
[17:20] <maco> paultag: russian testimonials are fine. we'll just make LucidFox translate
[17:20] <paultag> maco: well alrighty then :)
[17:21] <maco> at least, thats what RMB people agreed... that non-english testimonials are ok and we can all use google translate if we need. if the DMB doesn't hold to that, i'd be surprised
[17:22] <nigelb> maco: dmb is fine with it AFAIK.
[17:22] <maco> thats what i thought
[17:22] <paultag> I'll email him, hopefully I can get a response soon-ish
[17:23] <paultag> maco: I'm really worried I don't have the "stuff" for it.
[17:23] <maco> nigelb: what was it you said "i cant apply to motu, ive never done FOO" and i answered "ive been a motu for 3 months and did that for the first time last week"?
[17:23] <paultag> it's what stopped me up when I was trying for MOTU stuff before
[17:24] <nigelb> maco: yes where $foo ~ merge
[17:24] <maco> mm no it wasnt merg
[17:24] <maco> *merge
[17:24] <nigelb> yes it was.
[17:24] <maco> because my first merge was a half hour before the dmb meeting
[17:25] <nigelb> then it must be rules
[17:25] <paultag> Oooh, I love writing the rules file
[17:25] <nigelb> maco: you said something about "proper merge"
[17:26] <nigelb> It was merge AFAIK.
[17:26] <nigelb> I was merging something and got stuck with rules file.
[17:26] <maco> i think it was ftbfs
[17:26] <nigelb> No, I did fix an FTBS.
[17:26] <maco> but ive still never done a merge by hand
[17:26] <maco> i wouldnt want to
[17:26] <maco> this is why we have bzr!
[17:28] <nigelb> lol
[17:29] <dholbach> jono: 2m?
[17:29] <paultag> maco: could I perhaps have you review a package of mine?
[17:29] <maco> paultag: when i get home from work?
[17:29] <paultag> maco: yeah, sure. I'm at work right now too
[17:29] <jono> dholbach, yep, one sec
[17:35] <jono> dholbach, sorry going to be a few
[17:39] <jono> dholbach, logging in now
[17:42] <dpm> ok everyone, time to call it a day. See you all tomorrow!
[17:43] <czajkowski> dpm: G'night
[18:00]  * dholbach calls it a day - see you guys tomorrow!
[18:11] <czajkowski> I really wished meetings in -meeting annouced at the begining of their meeting what the meeting/team is for
[18:23] <nigelb> JFo: what happened to kernel triage summit?
[18:23] <czajkowski> nigelb: 11/9
[18:24] <czajkowski> it's in his blog post
[18:24] <nigelb> wait, he has a blog? o.O
[18:24] <czajkowski> yup
[18:24] <czajkowski> doesnt blog that often but it's there
[18:25] <nigelb> czajkowski: linky?
[18:25] <czajkowski> http://jeremy-foshee.blogspot.com/
[18:25] <nigelb> JFo: get it on planet soon.
[18:26] <nigelb> czajkowski: 9/11 not 11/9 ;)
[18:26] <nigelb> I was wondering why it was only in november :/
[18:27] <maco> haha
[18:27] <nigelb> (and I'm supposed to be Indian where we follow dd-mm-yy, gah america)
[18:28] <czajkowski> no it's 11/9 11th november
[18:28] <paultag_> nigelb: that makes the least sense
[18:28] <vish> nigelb: why "supposed to be" ? ;p
[18:28] <czajkowski> bah
[18:28] <czajkowski> 11th september 11/9
[18:28] <paultag_> nigelb: it should be yyyy-mm-dd
[18:28] <paultag_> it would make versioning so easy
[18:29] <popey> ALL DATES MUST BE YYYYMMDD BY ORDER OF THE POPEY!
[18:29] <maco> paultag:  +1
[18:29] <popey> [FACT]
[18:29] <maco> popey: i turn in timesheets at work with that numbering ;-)
[18:29] <popey> \o/
[18:29] <popey> you win
[18:29] <paultag_> +1 maco :)
[18:29] <maco> it sorts really well for ls too!
[18:29] <vish> popey: isnt it DDMMYY in england too?
[18:29] <nigelb> vish: because I neer get dd-mm-yy right.
[18:29] <popey> in the UK it's DDMMYY yes
[18:29] <maco> vish: yes, but then you break sorting
[18:29] <nigelb> cheques are major pain.
[18:29] <popey> or DDMMYYYY
[18:29] <paultag_> Hahaha
[18:29] <popey> \o/ correct spelling of Cheques :)
[18:29] <paultag_> checks, damnit!
[18:29] <vish> heh , americans just flip everything and think they are right! ;p
[18:30] <maco> i have a professor who's welsh and so when he signs forms at my school writes like "9 viii 2010"
[18:30]  * popey flips something at vish 
[18:30]  * nigelb huggles popey 
[18:30] <popey> :)
[18:30] <maco> i had to translate on zareason's forum for a british person once
[18:30]  * popey goes home with a wet phone
[18:30] <popey> o/
[18:30] <vish> ;)
[18:30] <paultag_> vish: seuqehc it is
[18:30] <maco> they were told to "mail a check" and didnt know what the heck it meant... "post a cheque"
[18:30] <paultag_> +1 maco, I was so confused when I saw that the first time
[18:31] <paultag_> but then I remembered my German 101, and that post == mail :)
[18:31] <paultag_> and I guessed the rest
[18:31]  * nigelb kicks paultag_ 
[18:31] <nigelb> ok, bedtime for real.
[18:32] <nigelb> Waking up at 4 ain't fun.
[18:32] <maco> paultag: er... you mean like "post office" "postal carrier" and "postage stamp"?
[18:32] <nigelb> maco: paultag_ is prone to "slight" exaggeration.
[18:32] <nigelb> He's paultag_ afterall.
[18:32] <paultag_> maco: ...yup. Way to rationalize my epiphany :(
[18:32] <paultag_> I think we should adopt roman numerals for versioning
[18:33] <nigelb> It would be like using wires instead of circuit boards
[18:41] <nigelb> popey: http://identi.ca/notice/45588882
[18:41] <czajkowski> I do like making people frown showed a mate http://pix.ie/czajkowski/574408/in/album/323012
[18:42] <paultag_> nigelb: haha, :)
[18:43] <nigelb> czajkowski: hahahahaha
[18:43] <nigelb> title rocks
[18:44] <AlanBell> czajkowski: I think I deleted my gimped version of that
[18:44] <paultag_> czajkowski: awww!! that's awesome
[18:45] <paultag_> you got pwned!
[19:03] <paultag> back :)
[19:04] <nigelb> paultag: see pm
[19:14] <nigelb> popey: *very* sensible dents lately :)
[19:14]  * nigelb likey all of them
[19:14] <czajkowski> nigelb: and you didnt before
[19:15] <nigelb> czajkowski: I did.  I did.  But I like the ones about the whole "ben thing" :)
[19:16] <paultag> neckbearding for life
[19:17] <paultag> Who else thinks it's time to submit an RFC on POSIX compliant beards ?
[19:27] <czajkowski> I say we give these out to young folks http://www.jamboree.freedom-in-education.co.uk/images/crafts/robin%20hood/beard.jpg save them time growing beards
[19:27] <paultag> YES.
[19:28] <highvoltage> rofl
[19:28] <nigelb> OMG! YES!
[19:28] <nigelb> And all of us should wear it at uds for the group pic
[19:28] <paultag> hahahahahhahahaha
[19:32] <maco> haha
[19:32] <vish> :(
[19:32] <vish> why are we /still/ discussing this :s
[19:33] <nigelb> vish: we're thinking of ways to get back at him
[19:33] <paultag> it's funny vish :)
[19:33] <AlanBell> meh
[19:33] <nigelb> and its hilarious, yes :)
[19:34] <vish> paultag: for fun it sounds good
[19:34] <vish> but i think its high time we moved on and stopped giving that anymore attention ;)
[19:34] <paultag> true
[19:35] <nigelb> its become one of those hit jokes
[19:36] <nigelb> popey's and paultag's dent on this topic totally rocks :)
[19:36] <paultag> hahaha
[19:36] <paultag> I never saw popey's
[19:37] <nigelb> Just because you don't see a public 'flogging' when someone is alleged to have breached the #ubuntu CoC doesn't mean nothing happened.
[19:37] <nigelb> Dear Internet. The words of one blogger do not represent the perspective of the whole #Ubuntu Community.Love popey.(neither does this tweet)
[19:37] <nigelb> paultag: ^^
[19:37] <paultag> hahahaha
[19:37] <AlanBell> http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/boiling-point-in-defense-of-the-nerd-kingdom.php
[19:37] <highvoltage> hmm, I wonder where I can get a template beard to gimp-copy-and-paste on my hackergotchi
[19:37] <AlanBell> highvoltage: I was thinking of doing that too!
[19:38] <czajkowski> let me google again
[19:38] <czajkowski> I find searching for leprechauns works
[19:38] <czajkowski> :)
[19:38] <highvoltage> because I need to make a post about the CC and how I think it's better not to have a CoC with teeth and that would be a kind of useful picture :)
[19:39] <highvoltage> I guess I could just draw a beard in gimp
[19:39] <czajkowski> teeth?
[19:40] <czajkowski> highvoltage: http://www.partycheap.com/v/vspfiles/photos/30706-2T.jpg gimp away the hat
[19:40] <highvoltage> czajkowski: wow! I think I'd rather keep the had!
[19:40] <highvoltage> *hat
[19:41] <paultag> OH NOES!
[19:41] <paultag> this is going places
[19:42] <nigelb> lol
[19:42] <czajkowski> highvoltage: careful now, folks could say you're insulting us poor wee Irish :p
[19:42] <nigelb> we should do that in protest of the article :/
[19:42] <highvoltage> czajkowski: well, they can try that but since that's where my ancestors are from I guess that gives me a little leeway :)
[19:43] <JFo> http://www.giftsatpages.com/14/14005GR/wigs-beards-extra-long-beard--mustache.html
[19:43] <highvoltage> a wee leeway! :D
[19:43] <paultag> JFo++;
[19:43] <JFo> :)
[19:43] <AlanBell> http://sfist.com/attachments/Christopher%20Rogers/neckbeard_army_represent.jpg
[19:45] <paultag> We should just change our planet photos to be us with neckbeards
[19:45] <paultag> and blog away for the week
[19:50] <JFo> poorly drawn neckbeards obviously photoshopped over hackergotchi?
[19:50] <JFo> I like it
[19:51] <AlanBell> gimped JFo gimped!
[19:52] <paultag> JFo: Let's do it!
[19:52] <JFo> tomato tomahhhto
[19:52] <JFo> paultag, :)
[19:52]  * AlanBell goes to find hackergochi image
[19:52] <paultag> I'm not joking at all. I'm totally cutting out a fake beard
[19:53] <AlanBell> don't mention it in the blog post though, just do it and blog about something normal
[19:53] <paultag> AlanBell: +1
[19:53] <paultag> we need to be subtle
[19:54] <paultag> I'm using RMS as a template
[19:55] <paultag> Gah, that'll take forver
[19:57] <czajkowski> paultag: you and patience don't really go do they
[19:57] <paultag> They do :)
[19:57] <paultag> I just need goals that I can hit. I've found a much better one
[19:58] <paultag> and I'm almost good
[19:59] <paultag> http://s3.amazonaws.com/files.posterous.com/thingscoolpeopleanddouchebagslike/kgpSsCFUSp5ENy9eYwCxmd6T41qcEkvSuBOmedM4cw71fVqA6DNgsZ6OKroF/beards.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=1C9REJR1EMRZ83Q7QRG2&Expires=1281380681&Signature=ZZ8HkpMJuxnYxbgG1Rt8JzQ0uGs%3D
[20:00] <paultag> Although, looking at it, I do have a bit of a neckbeard here -- http://planet.ubuntu.com/heads/paultag.png
[20:01] <AlanBell> I can't think of anything else to call that!
[20:01] <highvoltage> I get lazy to shave sometimes and then I get one too
[20:02] <czajkowski> I want to go back to Canada for http://govdocs.evergreen.edu/canadagov/timbitssm.jpg
[20:02] <highvoltage> it just feels silly so I shave it again :)
[20:11] <popey> evening all
[20:13] <paultag> My endevors today failed JFo :(
[20:13] <paultag> it came out pretty bad
[20:13] <paultag> I'd be willing to supply stock imagry if anyone wants to neck-beard me
[20:14] <czajkowski> heh
[20:14] <czajkowski> popey: howdy doody
[20:14] <czajkowski> tempted to upgrade to maverick today
[20:14] <czajkowski> hows it looking
[20:15] <AlanBell> bug #614240 is in the /topic of #ubuntu+1
[20:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 614240 in glib2.0 (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "libglib2.0-0 2.25.12-1ubuntu1 failed to install: *** buffer overflow detected ***: /usr/lib/glib-2.0/gio-querymodules terminated (affects: 22) (dups: 2) (heat: 1748)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614240
[20:15] <vish> AlanBell: thought they reverted that..
[20:15] <AlanBell> I haven't been following it, I just did /topic #ubuntu+1
[20:16] <paultag> hey popey, I just came accross your website. I love it.
[20:17] <popey> oh thanks!
[20:19] <vish> AlanBell: topic in +1 fixed now.. :)
[20:22] <AlanBell> :-)
[20:28] <jono> kim0, about to post the map to the FB group
[20:28] <jono> watch it explode with new ubuntu users now :-)
[20:28] <kim0> jono: rock it
[20:28] <kim0> hehe
[20:29]  * czajkowski hugs jono 
[20:30] <czajkowski> tagged it :D
[20:30] <jono> done :)
[20:30] <jono> let's watch the fun happen
[20:30] <czajkowski> aye hence you got the hug!
[20:30]  * jono hugs kim0 and czajkowski
[20:31] <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/195/detail/
[20:31] <czajkowski> that needs some loving we onbly ahve 8 signed up so far
[20:31] <czajkowski> *have
[20:32] <czajkowski> hmm shall do a blog post on it
[20:32] <jono> czajkowski, do please
[20:32] <jono> we should schedule a bunch of blog entries methinks
[20:33] <czajkowski> jono: aye
[20:33] <czajkowski> I'll do today will you do one tomorrow
[20:33] <czajkowski> who else
[20:33] <czajkowski> highvoltage: ping
[20:33] <jono> kim0, weird, some markers appear and disapear
[20:33] <jono> kim0, ignore me
[20:33] <kim0> jono: at low zoom .. one country is just one marker
[20:33] <jono> it is only on the zoomed out level
[20:33] <kim0> yep
[20:34] <jono> kim0, this is so awesome
[20:34] <kim0> when jono touches FB .. it's the viral effect at it's best :)
[20:34] <kim0> lol
[20:35] <jono> lol
[20:35] <jono> I think everyone in here needs to give props to kim0
[20:35] <jono> kim0: props to you
[20:35] <kim0> Thanks man :)
[20:36] <kim0> is Asia asleep or something
[20:36] <kim0> :)
[20:36] <kim0> I know they are now .. but I mean .. where were they all day long
[20:38] <jono> kim0, it will get there :-)
[20:39] <kim0> jono: hehe yeah .. potentially after the facebook one tomorrow morning
[20:39] <jono> indeed :)
[20:39] <jono> I am gonna blog it too
[20:39] <kim0> coolness :)
[20:54] <czajkowski> jono: http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/08/09/ubuntu-global-jam-coming-very-soon/  can you tweet, folks seem to listen you, odd being the community manager and all :p
[20:56] <AlanBell> czajkowski: is there somewhere else those banners are being served from?
[20:57] <czajkowski> yup
[20:57] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[20:57] <czajkowski> where i got most of the content
[20:58] <AlanBell> ooh, that will hurt the wiki if they get used all over the place
[20:59] <czajkowski> well most people download them like I did and upload it again
[20:59] <czajkowski> how will it hurt the wiki
[20:59] <AlanBell> hope so
[20:59] <czajkowski> or am I missing something
[21:00] <AlanBell> depends where they end up being put really I suppose
[21:00] <czajkowski> everying I link to goes on my server
[21:06] <daker> hello world
[21:06] <kim0> daker: welcome man
[21:07] <daker> as i said is that the community is not able to provide a multilingual web content
[21:07] <kim0> daker: can u explain that
[21:07] <daker> ubuntu.com is in english
[21:08] <daker> help.u.c is in english too
[21:08] <daker> wiki.u.c is in En too
[21:08] <daker> so why are we providing a multilingual OS
[21:08] <daker> if we can't provide multilingual HELP
[21:09] <daker> btw map.u.c is also in EN
[21:09] <daker> :p
[21:10] <daker> can someone answer my question
[21:10] <daker> pls
[21:10] <kim0> daker: are you aware of some policy that content should be English
[21:10] <kim0> or is it just lack of contributors
[21:11] <doctormo> popey: Your on the LoCo council right?
[21:11] <daker> kim0, i don't think that's a lake of contributors
[21:11] <popey> yeah
[21:12] <popey> wassup?
[21:12] <doctormo> popey: What is the current position of the LoCo council on marketing coherence?
[21:12] <popey> not sure we have a 'position' as such
[21:13] <czajkowski> what do you mean? marketing coherence?
[21:14] <czajkowski> daker: many of the wiki pages are being translated
[21:14] <czajkowski> daker: but some things will be in English
[21:14] <popey> actually we rely on loco teams to do that translation daker / czajkowski
[21:15] <popey> daker: map.u.c is open source, hosted on launchpad, I'm sure they would welcome translations
[21:15] <daker> czajkowski, popey i agree with u
[21:16] <daker> & what about u.c & h.u.c ?
[21:17] <doctormo> czajkowski, popey: Mainly trying to get a set of recommended verbage, fonts, styles, colours and such to use in materials. Trying to make sure that the way Ubuntu is described in person is fairly approximately consistent.
[21:17] <popey> i would think the marketing team (such that it is) should come up with that
[21:17] <czajkowski> doctormo: I'd assume marketing (canonical) would be the ones to ask
[21:19] <doctormo> czajkowski: Canonical's Marketing? The design team and people who work on branding I think are a good offical place to start from the Canonical side. But the community has a lot to say that isn't covered.
[21:19] <czajkowski> such as?
[21:19] <popey> I'm specifically talking about the non-canonical marketing team
[21:20] <doctormo> popey: So if the ubuntu marketing team popped up and laid down some guides and base works, these would be debated in the LoCo ecosystem?
[21:20]  * doctormo knew what popey meant.
[21:20] <popey> we could certainly help in getting them promoted
[21:20] <popey> getting the word out and trying to get contributions
[21:20] <pleia2> doctormo: I've been following the -marketing thread, I think this is a tall order, there are some pretty opinionated folks on the list and I could see long, unresolvable discussions on the usage of "linux" and "free"
[21:21] <pleia2> among other things
[21:21] <popey> yup, ditto
[21:23] <doctormo> pleia2: I agree that those specific items are going to need some sort of sabdfl getting involved. But then again we have fairly good compromises and evidence for a whole bunch of contentious issues.
[21:24] <pleia2> doctormo: I don't know that he'd be willing to come down firmly on either side (I know I wouldn't, and he's quite a bit higher profile than I ;))
[21:25] <AlanBell> doctormo: have you seen all the design toolkit stuff and the sliders and whatnot?
[21:25] <doctormo> Heh, well that's why I said _some sort of_, I figure Mark will use the language most appropriate for the audience.
[21:26] <doctormo> AlanBell: linky?
[21:26] <AlanBell> http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/
[21:26] <daker> when someone got answers for my question pls poke me
[21:27] <popey> daker: what question?
[21:27] <doctormo> pleia2, popey: Considering the mailing list discussion and the bad apathy of the marketing team's past. Perhaps something small and simple to start with.
[21:27] <popey> starting small is good
[21:27] <daker> popey, <daker> & what about u.c & h.u.c ?
[21:27] <popey> daker: as I said, locos are expected to translate those
[21:27] <AlanBell> daker: are you offering to do translations?
[21:27] <pleia2> doctormo: I don't need to tell you the history of the marketing team :) I'm sure you already know that the only thing that has *ever* worked is starting small
[21:27] <AlanBell> daker: which languages?
[21:28] <pleia2> too many "I want to be the leader, here is what we do" failed attempts every 6 months
[21:28] <pleia2> spreadubuntu was just a guy who Went And Did It
[21:28] <czajkowski> pleia2: aye I know from the last 3 UDS it's been a revolving topic
[21:28] <popey> yeah, do more of that
[21:28] <doctormo> "Went and Did It"(tm) bit like Ubuntu Manual team then. ;-)
[21:28] <czajkowski> spreadubuntu is rather nifty site
[21:29] <popey> not quite
[21:29] <popey> but i get your point
[21:29] <popey> fact is nobody is currently doing global marketing stuff
[21:30] <popey> whereas with ubuntu manual there was already a well established and working team
[21:30] <doctormo> Nibbling the edges.
[21:30] <daker> AlanBell, are you sure that those sites could be Internationalized ?
[21:30] <popey> daker: dpm is probably the best person to talk to
[21:30] <popey> daker: he's the head of translations
[21:30] <doctormo> popey: It's up for some debate about the workingness of the docs team for producing printable materials. But that's for another time. I get your point.
[21:31] <popey> sure
[21:31] <daker> popey, thans
[21:31] <czajkowski> daker: dpm details https://launchpad.net/~dpm
[21:31] <AlanBell> daker: I am sure if a proposal was put forward it would be taken seriously, I doubt there is any unsurmountable technical problem with it
[21:32] <daker> AlanBell, czajkowski popey oki thanks
[21:32] <pleia2> doctormo: I'd propose getting a team of folks together to get some guidelines, draft materials and move forward
[21:32] <pleia2> I wouldn't say "this is the official message of the marketing team" because such a thing will never exist, I'm afraid
[21:32] <czajkowski> daker: np
[21:32] <doctormo> popey, pleia2: What I think I was trying to say is. Each loco team or self opinionated doctormo like member can nibble at the edges of marketing, but none really has the authority to say anything globally.
[21:33] <pleia2> but getting materials out there, promoting them, all is a step in the right direction
[21:33] <pleia2> right now when I want to print up a filer for an event I just wander through spreadubuntu and pick something that looks nice and doesn't have too many typos ;)
[21:33] <doctormo> pleia2: I think I see a plan forming out of the chaos.
[21:34] <popey> :)
[21:34] <AlanBell> every loco team to be issued with a self opinionated doctormo \o/
[21:34] <pleia2> AlanBell: lol
[21:34] <popey> * Bowler hats optional
[21:34]  * doctormo gets into the cloning machine
[21:40]  * doctormo swears at Empathy for crashing.
[21:42] <popey> erk
[21:43] <duanedesign> looking at the materials on design.ubuntu.com, they are a good start. However they are definetly targeted for canonicals internal use.
[21:45] <doctormo> duanedesign: Is that the url? I get a 404.
[21:45] <AlanBell> duanedesign: not really, they cover a lot of community stuff too
[21:46] <duanedesign> doctormo: http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/
[21:46] <doctormo> popey: Have you used the loco directories new ical feeds yet?
[21:46] <popey> ooooo no
[21:46] <popey> didnt know that existed
[21:46] <czajkowski> airurando: welcome
[21:46] <doctormo> duanedesign: Ah, design.canonical.com not ubuntu.com
[21:46] <popey> blog it!
[21:46] <duanedesign> AlanBell: it does.
[21:46] <doctormo> popey: Aye aye
[21:46] <popey> with screenshots and gmail and stuff!
[21:46] <czajkowski> doctormo: the ical feed is very handy
[21:47] <duanedesign> AlanBell: i guess i was thinking the dots usage. The two categories are enterprise and developer
[21:47] <AlanBell> duanedesign: http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/canonical-brand-guides/
[21:47] <doctormo> czajkowski: There was a global ical feed, now there is a per team ical feed too.
[21:47] <AlanBell> that is the canonical section
[21:47] <czajkowski> doctormo: yup
[21:47] <AlanBell> duanedesign: yeah, there are enterprise dots and developer dots
[21:48] <doctormo> Although we made a debian guy sad for not using caldav/webdav at a protocol.
[21:48] <popey> "We made $person sad for not doing $something" seems to be a meme
[21:48] <AlanBell> but something can be community (orange) but aimed at Enterprise users (wide dots)
[21:49] <duanedesign> AlanBell: hmm, thats right. forgot about the orange and purple distinctions
[21:50] <AlanBell> community stuff is community orange and can use aubergine as an accent colour, Canonical stuff is Canonical aubergine and can use orange as an accent colour
[21:50] <AlanBell> and there are 4 or so different shades of aubergine
[21:51] <AlanBell> and I am working on a blog post about the squillions of different colours of Orange that you could end up with
[21:51] <duanedesign> AlanBell: right. that answers the question i was trying to solve with the dots. ie. how to distinguish community pieces
[21:52] <AlanBell> yup "voice slider" is the orange/aubergine balance
[21:53] <AlanBell> audience slider varies the shade of the aubergine used
[21:53] <AlanBell> darker aubergines are more enterprisey (hence Ubuntu Server CD is dark aubergine)
[21:54] <AlanBell> developer slider moves from filled diagrams to outlined diagrams (really odd one that)
[21:58] <duanedesign> AlanBell: mmm, yes you are right, they do cover a lot of commnuity stuff. I guess i will retract my initial statement :)
[21:59] <doctormo> popey: http://doctormo.org/2010/08/09/loco-team-calendars/
[21:59] <popey> doctormo: love you! thanks!
[22:00] <popey> hmm, did I say that out loud?
[22:01] <doctormo> Nah, trick of the light.
[22:01] <popey> phew
[22:02] <akgraner> jcastro, will you be at OLF?
[22:02] <AlanBell> the loco directory just evolved it's killer feature
[22:04] <doctormo> // Your _Directory_ just evolved into a _Calendar_ //
[22:04] <doctormo> Pika!
[22:08] <highvoltage> czajkowski: pong
[22:09] <highvoltage> (I'm going to drive home now but will just reconnect from there)
[22:10] <czajkowski> highvoltage: we need bloggers on Ubuntu global jam will you blog some day this week on it please?
[22:12] <akgraner> doctormo, any luck seeing who could make a new Fridge Logo?  We will be testing the new site in the next 10 days or so :-)
[22:12] <akgraner> we are adding content now and tweaking what's there now thanks to nhandler and pleia2 and stas...
[22:14] <doctormo> akgraner: It slipped my list, thanks for the prod. Remind me what's the requirement?
[22:14] <doctormo> There must have been a reason I didn't jump on it.
[22:16] <doctormo> Wow I just scared myself with cheese and my own expression... note to self, easy on the cold meds.
[22:38] <czajkowski> airurando: see doctormo has done up http://doctormo.org/2010/08/09/loco-team-calendars/  which should help folks in the team
[22:38] <duanedesign> doctormo: have you solicited any volunteers yet for the fridge logo? If not I probably have time in the morning to make a run at it
[22:40] <airurando> Hi all.
[22:40] <airurando> czajkowski: just reading that now
[22:42] <czajkowski> airurando: folks in here from all over the place but mostly we chat on community stuff and jonos team are also in here
[22:42] <highvoltage> czajkowski: yep
[22:42] <czajkowski> highvoltage: can you take wednesday adn shall remind jono to do Tomorrow please
[22:42] <highvoltage> czajkowski: righto, I'll probably need some pointers but I'll try to be creative
[22:42] <jono> czajkowski, I will do tomorrow, I am off on wed - fri
[22:43] <czajkowski> jono: grand you're tomorrow
[22:43] <czajkowski> highvoltage: is wednesday
[22:43] <czajkowski> I need folks for Thursday and Friday :)
[22:43] <czajkowski> jono: highvoltage http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/08/09/ubuntu-global-jam-coming-very-soon/
[22:44] <czajkowski> popey: can you blog this week on UGJ if you've time??
[22:47] <czajkowski> jono: can you tweet the link please when you get a chance
[22:47] <jono> czajkowski, doing so now
[22:48] <jono> done
[22:48] <czajkowski> jono: thank you my dear!
[22:50] <akgraner> paultag, hey we may have some free space for an UbuCon at OLF if you all are interested?
[22:51] <akgraner> paultag, if you have time wanna chat about it tomorrow - I still have a million things to do tonight
[22:53] <paultag> akgraner: hell yeah
[22:53] <paultag> akgraner: send what you're thinking over email, I'll let team LoCoHiO know, I'm up for a chat as well :)
[22:55] <akgraner> paultag, awesome  - got an email from the OLF planners this morning about it... let me see if I can get all this done in the next 1.5 hours or so and if you are still around maybe a quick chat then I can talk to the OLF folks in the am
[22:55] <paultag> akgraner: sure thing!
[22:57] <akgraner> ok I am almost finished with UWN and I have 2 interviews I need to post
[22:57] <akgraner> and one I need to send to someone
[22:57] <akgraner> but after that ok...
[22:57] <paultag> akgraner: :)
[22:57] <paultag> akgraner: take your time, I'll be around :)
[22:59] <czajkowski> popey: aye around and doing your re apparoval right :)
[22:59] <paultag> Oh christ, I need to do that too
[22:59]  * paultag skuttles off
[23:00] <czajkowski> paultag: magic word, delegate ;)
[23:00] <AlanBell> jenkins: /window 25
[23:00] <AlanBell> oops
[23:00] <paultag> czajkowski: Aye, I know, but I don't want someone half-arseing it, so I'd like to get the template down pat, and have people fill in
[23:00] <czajkowski> paultag: aye
[23:05]  * popey hugs jono
[23:05] <jono> popey, :-)
[23:44]  * highvoltage throughs *hugs* all over the channel
[23:44] <pleia2> *hugs* :)
[23:44] <highvoltage> jono: btw what's keybuk's tweet about, kind of nasty thing to say publicly :(
[23:45] <Pendulum> highvoltage: it's all the fallout from ben's blogpost, I think
[23:46] <highvoltage> *sigh*
[23:46] <doctormo> popey: Could you post the ical thing to the loco contacts mailing list?
[23:47] <Pendulum> highvoltage: I know. Sadly it was going to polarize people no matter what happened and how it was handled :(
[23:52]  * nhandler is still waiting for 2 way syncing ical capabilities
[23:53] <doctormo> nhandler: What is it you need?
[23:53] <nhandler> doctormo: So that if I create an event on the ical in say Google Calendar, the LD would create an event for my team
[23:53] <nhandler> That way, I don't need to ever go to loco.ubuntu.com directly
[23:54] <doctormo> nhandler: Unfortunately loco.ubuntu.com contains the greatest amount of context where as google calendars has none. The mapping would be hard to achieve the other way round. Why do you want to do it that way round?
[23:55]  * doctormo attempts to get at the source of the problem.
[23:56] <paultag> doctormo: because it's a lot easier
[23:56] <paultag> doctormo: :)
[23:56] <paultag> doctormo: afternoon, chap :)
[23:56] <nhandler> doctormo: Well, it would be possible. The fields on the Create Event page would just get translated into fields in the description. I mainly want it to avoid having to change my workflow. I can also quickly add/edit ical events from Google Calendar, any calendar app, or even my iPod.
[23:56] <doctormo> paultag: The answer would be to get webdav working with the loco directory, not ical viz google. wrong tech.
[23:58] <doctormo> The problem is that it's hideous complex because you have to junk the location info and blank links to global event link as well as it's blog link. Plus future fields.
[23:59] <doctormo> WebDav _may_ help us get an unbalanced two way into google calendar or evolution, but it's going to have to be a recommendation that people start updating their workflows to use loco.ubuntu.com, otherwise we'll never find the problems with our own tools and be able to fix them.