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| pitti | Good morning | 06:51 |
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| ajmitch | morning pitti | 06:51 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:57 |
| didrocks | good morning dholbach, how are you? | 08:06 |
| dholbach | didrocks: good good - how are you? | 08:06 |
| didrocks | dholbach: I'm good too. Having nice time in the Alpes :) | 08:06 |
| dholbach | oh wow - are you on holidays there? | 08:06 |
| didrocks | dholbach: not this week, from next week, I'll :) | 08:07 |
| dholbach | didrocks: awesome - hope you'll enjoy it | 08:09 |
| didrocks | dholbach: always going back where you are born is a joy. thanks! :) | 08:10 |
| didrocks | (and now, there is a decent Internet connexion ;)) | 08:11 |
| mvo | didrocks: nice! what area are you in? | 08:16 |
| didrocks | mvo: near Annecy (which is one hour away from Genève), a little village called Thorens-Glières :) Do you know the surroundings? | 08:17 |
| mvo | didrocks: not that well, but I want to spend my next vacation in the alpes, chamonix is not that far, right? | 08:19 |
| didrocks | mvo: something like 70 kms, not very far, no. A little bit higher and colder though :) | 08:21 |
| didrocks | mvo: when will you have your next vacation, btw? | 08:21 |
| mvo | didrocks: I will have a short one next week, but the alpes will have to wait until next year | 08:22 |
| mvo | didrocks: I will ask you for good recommendations of places etc, great to know that you are faimilar with the area :) | 08:22 |
| didrocks | mvo: sure, do not hesitate :) | 08:22 |
| maco | didrocks, mvo: possibly a silly question, but do you two ski? | 08:27 |
| maco | my brain's going "alps.....SKIING!" | 08:27 |
| didrocks | maco: not on that period (at least for me), rather in winter :) | 08:27 |
| maco | well yes i realise not this week :P | 08:28 |
| didrocks | heh :) | 08:28 |
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| geser | mvo: what's the status of bug #608747? In the last comment you mentioned that you uploaded it but maverick still has 0.3 (and not 0.4). | 09:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 608747 in goplay (Ubuntu) "Please merge goplay 0.4-1 (universe) from debian (unstable)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608747 | 09:04 |
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| hrw | rebuilding eglibc again... | 09:07 |
| hrw | hope that this time it will not end in build loop | 09:07 |
| mvo | geser: yeah, sorry. I meant to upload. let me look again | 09:22 |
| mvo | geser: tbh some of the changes are a bit dubios so I was hoping for clarification from david | 09:23 |
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| geser | mvo: I'll contact David and ask about the status, as I'd like to get this merge gone before FF as the package currently FTBFS | 09:28 |
| mvo | geser: thanks, I just looked over the diff again and afaics the only think needed is the change in src/pkgbrowser.cpp to make it work with fortify, that will probably taken upstream if we submit it. I will comment in the bug | 09:33 |
| ara | pitti, hello | 10:25 |
| jibel | mvo, hello | 10:29 |
| jibel | mvo, I was trying to reproduce an update-manager issue for an lts to lts upgrade but can't because there is no record for lucid in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts | 10:29 |
| mvo | jibel: can you use update-manager --proposed? | 10:29 |
| pitti | hey ara, how are you? | 10:30 |
| ara | pitti, good thanks, yourself? | 10:30 |
| pitti | ara: I'm great, thanks | 10:30 |
| mvo | jibel: and thanks for your mail about dbus, I shall reply today (sorry that I haven't already :( | 10:30 |
| ara | pitti, I have a question related to apport-symptoms | 10:31 |
| ara | pitti, (I am writing a new one) | 10:31 |
| jibel | mvo, --proposed works because it downloads the -development meta-release | 10:31 |
| ara | pitti, if a sympton leads to a package that it is not xorg, but it is useful to attach xorg information as well, is there a way to attach it? | 10:31 |
| mvo | jibel: right, not yet, we will add it this week when 10.04.1 is officially released. do you need it in order to verify the upgrade issue? | 10:32 |
| mvo | jibel: I mean, do you need it now? | 10:32 |
| jibel | mvo, ok, no I don't need it, I added the record by hand to the local meta-release file | 10:33 |
| mvo | jibel: thanks! what issue is it? there is still (a bit) of time to fix package failures before the upgrade becomes enabled by default | 10:33 |
| mvo | jibel: when that happens the users will see the upgrade button on hardy | 10:34 |
| jibel | mvo, that was an SRU uploaded few weeks ago. pitti uploaded it to -updates this morning, so everything is fine. | 10:35 |
| mvo | jibel: great, thanks | 10:36 |
| pitti | ara: hm, let me look | 10:37 |
| pitti | ara: so, not directly; if you only need the noninteractive part, you could just copy the attach_hardware() and other bits | 10:39 |
| pitti | ara: if you really want the full thing, you could import /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_xorg.py and call its add_info() | 10:39 |
| ara | pitti, OK, thanks | 10:39 |
| pitti | ara: i. e. either temporarily add that to sys.path and import, or use execfile() | 10:40 |
| ara | pitti, I won't need everything, I'll just copy the necessary bits | 10:40 |
| ara | thanks again | 10:41 |
| hyperair | are there any archive admins around here to feel up to looking into a source new package? | 10:58 |
| hyperair | s/to/who/ | 10:59 |
| hyperair | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53247690/ctpl_0.2.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes <-- this package is currently needed by the new geany-plugins package, which FTBFS. | 11:00 |
| dholbach | davmor2: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :) | 11:05 |
| davmor2 | dholbach: thanks | 11:06 |
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| Laney | ftbfs, not depwait? | 11:13 |
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| tjaalton | unpacking packages in lucid is veeery slow, is this the ext4/dpkg issue still? | 11:18 |
| hyperair | Laney: i thought it'd depwait, but it ended up being marked ftbfs. weird, eh? | 11:20 |
| Laney | weird | 11:20 |
| Laney | indeedy | 11:21 |
| soren | Laney, hyperair: bug #615286 perhaps? | 11:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 615286 in Launchpad Auto Build System "DEPWAIT not recognized from build log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615286 | 11:21 |
| hyperair | ah, i see. | 11:21 |
| pitti | tjaalton: should be better with the lucid-updates version of dpkg | 11:55 |
| tjaalton | pitti: i think this time it was due to hung nfs mounts | 11:55 |
| tjaalton | will test in a bit | 11:55 |
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| debarshi | Is there any Ubiquity developers here? The #ubuntu-installer channel is full of people but has been too quiet for the last 3 days. | 12:54 |
| soren | debarshi: It's called weekend. | 12:56 |
| debarshi | soren: I have been there on Fri and Mon too. :-) | 12:56 |
| alf__ | Hi! for a package that build-depends on python 2.x >= 2.4, is "Build-Depends: python (>= 2.4), python (<< 3.0)" a reasonable way to to express this? | 14:15 |
| pitti | that would stop working once we switch the default pyhton to 3.x, but still support 2.x | 14:19 |
| alf__ | pitti: so, what is the recommended way of expressing this dependency? | 14:26 |
| pitti | alf__: I don't know; I'd start with python2.6 | python2.7 | python 2.5 | python2.4, but for now python (<< 3) should work as well | 14:26 |
| alf__ | pitti: ok, thanks! | 14:28 |
| free | pitti: hi! do you have some time today to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/landscape-client/+bug/610744 and possibly let the packages into -proposed? | 14:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 610744 in Ubuntu Karmic "Update jaunty, karmic, lucid and maverick to landscape-client 1.5.4" [Undecided,New] | 14:50 |
| pitti | free: probably not today, sorry; also, lucid is frozen right now for the point release | 14:53 |
| free | pitti: oh I see, when do you think we could reasonablt get them in? | 14:53 |
| pitti | next week hopefully | 14:54 |
| free | pitti: that's fine, thank you | 14:59 |
| asac | stgraber: will revu get support for source format 3.0 soon? | 15:11 |
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| ScottK | pitti and alf__: You don't need to specify python (<< 3.0). Python3 is (and will remain) a separate runtime. All python versions will remain less than 3. Note there is a python3 package for those things that need/support it. | 15:25 |
| smoser | pitti, ping. | 15:39 |
| pitti | smoser: pong | 15:39 |
| smoser | I'm following up on a ping earlier from free. The landscape-client fix that they're wanting into -proposed/-updates reasonably blocks 10.04.1 UEC images from being respun. | 15:39 |
| smoser | i'm wondering if we could get that into -proposed early after release on thursday or friday ? so we could at least pick that and roll a images refresh sometime next week ? (ie, 19th ish) | 15:40 |
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| pitti | smoser: sounds fine | 15:40 |
| smoser | (image builds only pull from -updates, not -proposed, and the client needs to be baked in to really suffice for them). | 15:40 |
| pitti | we don't have a RM for 10.04.1 yet, though | 15:41 |
| smoser | RM as in Manager or Milestone | 15:41 |
| pitti | manager | 15:41 |
| smoser | ok. so, free, you need to start begging pitti soon after release announcement is made on thursday. | 15:41 |
| free | smoser: okay :) | 15:42 |
| smoser | thank you pitti | 15:42 |
| free | pitti: btw is lucid-proposed frozen as well? if we could get the packages into -proposed even before the release we could squeeze some days | 15:43 |
| pitti | free: yes, that's the main target of the freeze | 15:43 |
| pitti | we build test CDs out of -proposed | 15:44 |
| free | pitti: fair enough | 15:44 |
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| Sarvatt | heads up in case anyone missed the emails, the new xserver release has been uploaded and upgrades are going to be messed up for a bit while all of the drivers build - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-x/2010-August/000931.html | 16:07 |
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| Laney | would be nice to cc -devel on those | 16:11 |
| sebner | w000T! Breakage ftw! | 16:12 |
| pitti | Laney: it was, even -discuss | 16:13 |
| Laney | pitti: oh, don't routinely read discuss | 16:13 |
| ogra | PingJocky, who reads discuss :P | 16:13 |
| Sarvatt | it's in moderation | 16:13 |
| ogra | err | 16:13 |
| ogra | pitti, indeed | 16:13 |
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| ScottK | Sarvatt: Might have been worth a mail to ubuntu-devel-announce. I think it's fair to assume all developers read that one. | 16:15 |
| Sarvatt | it's in moderation for ubuntu-devel-announce I meant, sorry | 16:16 |
| ScottK | Ah. Good. | 16:18 |
| njin | ara: around ? | 16:23 |
| ara | njin, I am | 16:23 |
| njin | hello, i've some time, and i want to test, but now the alpha 3 has released | 16:24 |
| njin | ara: have sense report on iso tracker ? | 16:24 |
| ara | njin, I have seen that some people reported, but I haven't had time yet to look to all the reports | 16:25 |
| ara | njin, anything in particular that you want to discuss? | 16:25 |
| njin | no, i'm waiting of daily test reporting | 16:25 |
| njin | ara: or better when i've free time testing | 16:26 |
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| LucidFox | dholbach, you here by any chance? | 16:59 |
| dholbach | LucidFox: yes | 16:59 |
| LucidFox | Good, good! We're discussing the rebranding of Behind MOTU with nigelb, I was wondering if it would make sense to get into a separate channel for this | 16:59 |
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| dholbach | /j #behindmotu | 17:00 |
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| tim | hi, i've been trying to backport gcc-4.5.1 to lucid (from the lp:ubuntu/gcc-4.5 repository). it compiles, but when generating the man pages, it stops with this error: http://pastebin.com/FVRaBeM3. any idea, why? | 18:10 |
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| jono | hmmm, has a recent maverick update caused problems with people starting X? | 18:35 |
| sebner | jono: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-x/2010-August/000931.html :) | 18:38 |
| jono | sebner, erk | 18:40 |
| jono | I picked possibly the worst time to upgrade | 18:40 |
| sebner | heh | 18:40 |
| sebner | indeed | 18:40 |
| bilalakhtar | Can anyone get https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qcake/0.7.2-2 rebuilt ? | 18:44 |
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| nigelb | bilalakhtar: you're MOTU? | 18:47 |
| bilalakhtar | nigelb: nope, but trying to become one | 18:48 |
| nigelb | ok, somone with at least motu should press that "big red" button | 18:48 |
| bilalakhtar | nigelb: yup | 18:48 |
| bilalakhtar | nigelb: Aren't you one? | 18:49 |
| nigelb | not yet | 18:49 |
| bilalakhtar | nigelb: Atleast, we should be able to get packages rebuilt | 18:50 |
| * stalcup looks | 18:50 | |
| stalcup | bilalakhtar: why did it fail? | 18:51 |
| bilalakhtar | stalcup: For some 'not going to be installed' problem | 18:52 |
| bilalakhtar | stalcup: some wierd problem, it succeeds in my pbuilder | 18:52 |
| stalcup | ah, ok | 18:52 |
| stalcup | looks like a dependacy problem to me | 18:54 |
| stalcup | dependancy too | 18:54 |
| bilalakhtar | stalcup: but, Rhonda ACKed it. It is a temporary problem | 18:55 |
| stalcup | so the libreadline5-dev problem has been resolved? | 18:55 |
| * stalcup retries the builds | 18:56 | |
| stalcup | bilalakhtar: ok, they are in queue | 18:57 |
| bilalakhtar | stalcup: Thanks@ | 19:02 |
| strycore | Hi | 19:19 |
| strycore | I thought it would be a good idea to drop by and ask if I can press 'Y' and watch my xorg go in oblivion on my Ubuntu Maverick install | 19:21 |
| strycore | I know I read somewhere something like "watch out for the next xorg update" | 19:22 |
| geser | strycore: depends if you want to use X till the transition is finished or not; and #ubuntu+1 is the better place for maverick support | 19:28 |
| strycore | well yeah , I'd rather have X ;) thanks for the tip | 19:29 |
| smoser | Daviey, around ? | 19:40 |
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| SpamapS | hrm, if I need to run a step in debian/rules as a non-root user, how should I do that? su? sudo? | 19:57 |
| micahg | I think the better question is why | 19:58 |
| SpamapS | I need to create a postgres database to run some tests with a postgres client library | 19:58 |
| micahg | why does that need to be non-root? | 19:58 |
| micahg | from the system perspective, not postgres | 19:59 |
| SpamapS | because postgres insists. :-P | 19:59 |
| SpamapS | /bin/sh debian/test_postgres.sh | 19:59 |
| SpamapS | initdb: cannot be run as root | 19:59 |
| SpamapS | micahg: I have no problems with these tests running as root, since the rest of the build does as well.. but postgres is being stubborn, so I need to give it a different uid. | 20:00 |
| Laney | patch the tests? | 20:01 |
| micahg | ok, I'm not familiar with postgres, so I can't help | 20:01 |
| SpamapS | Laney: I'd have to patch postgresql | 20:01 |
| SpamapS | kind of annoying.. there just seems to be no good way to reliably make sure something you're running does not have root privileges. :-/ | 20:32 |
| aruna | hello, quickly package puts my app/data directory under usr/share any ideas as how to resolve this please ? | 20:35 |
| SpamapS | aruna: thats where static shared data should go | 20:36 |
| aruna | yes I know the thing is I have my data files under /data and need the SAME directory structure | 20:36 |
| SpamapS | aruna: if it is runtime-data (meaning generated after program start) it should be in /var/lib or /var/run, and if it is user-owned data, somewhere under $HOME | 20:36 |
| SpamapS | aruna: /data is an invalid directory under the filesystem hierarchy standard | 20:37 |
| aruna | ok understood but how does one resolve an issue such as this ? | 20:38 |
| SpamapS | resolve what issue? | 20:38 |
| aruna | am trying to build a shoutcast front-end in quickly oki ? Works fine on my box but when the deb is installed file paths are out of sync | 20:39 |
| SpamapS | Ok, the issue is that your program is making assumptions about the system filesystem that it should not. | 20:39 |
| SpamapS | what data is this? | 20:40 |
| SpamapS | some kind of static table or something that the program downloads, or updates all the time? | 20:40 |
| aruna | am sorry am very new to linux and just getting familair with python and quickly please tell me how to do thinsg the correct way | 20:40 |
| SpamapS | right, think of it another way, you really need to figure out how to let the system do it the right way for you. ;) | 20:41 |
| aruna | it's on my launchpad ppa - there is a python tutorial and the shoutcast. Both have the same prob | 20:41 |
| SpamapS | aruna: its probably data that should be going into the user's home dir. I'm not familiar with the conventions of quickly, but I'd bet it has a module for doing this already. | 20:42 |
| SpamapS | aruna: this being, putting data into a user's home directory | 20:42 |
| SpamapS | ugh | 20:43 |
| SpamapS | somebody should rename quickly | 20:43 |
| SpamapS | such a common adverb! | 20:43 |
| aruna | no noo in the quickly tutorial it specifically tells you that when developing the code will be under /data and the deb will have usr/share and quickly IS a very useful tool makes life a lot simpler :-) | 20:44 |
| aruna | see all I need to understand is HOW to create a /data directory under usr/share through my code | 20:44 |
| SpamapS | Well I think I'll step back from this because I haven't done the quickly tutorial, nor do I have time to unfortunately. :-/ | 20:46 |
| aruna | thank you very much for trying to help though... | 20:46 |
| ebroder | aruna: This channel is more for development of Ubuntu than development of apps on Ubuntu. I don't know where it is, but I'd guess there's a better channel to get quickly help. (There isn't a #quickly, is there?) | 20:46 |
| Laney | #ubuntu-app-devel I think | 20:46 |
| aruna | ummm... yes your right I was there just now but seems very silent | 20:47 |
| ebroder | aruna: That unfortunately doesn't really change that it's a better place to ask quickly questions | 20:47 |
| aruna | thank'x will try there once more and apologies if I was in the wrong topic | 20:47 |
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| SpamapS | oh weird.. postgresql-8.4 actually *is* patched to allow initdb to run as root | 21:30 |
| SpamapS | bah.. only in the test build | 21:32 |
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