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DanaGArgh! Stupid appmenu keeps crashing Firefox every second time I try to download a file!09:11
DanaG   from /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so09:11
DanaGDownload file.  It works.  Download another file: crash.09:11
DanaGRestart firefox.  Try to download that second file again... it works.09:12
DanaGDownload a third file... crash.09:12
DanaGFixed it by removing appmenu-gtk.09:29
DanaGStill doesn't follow 301, though!09:29
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bobbyFF4 is still crashing at startup :(13:56
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chrisccoulsonmicahg - do you think we need the transitional xulrunner-1.9.3* packages in xulrunner-2.0? shouldn't we just rely on applications to pull in the new version by depending on it?17:25
micahgchrisccoulson: yeah, we don't need them anymore, that was more for the FF4 transition17:26
chrisccoulsonmicahg - cool, i'll drop those then17:26
chrisccoulsoni think i've finished making changes to lp:firefox now17:26
micahgchrisccoulson: BTW, I pushed tb to my PPA and it still doesn't work (installing), I'll try without the apt-pinning later tonight17:28
chrisccoulsonoh, is that for the TB locales?17:28
chrisccoulsoni'm still unsure about what we're going to do with thunderbird for pre-lucid releases17:29
micahgchrisccoulson: yeah, TB+locales17:32
micahgchrisccoulson: I thought we were going to migrate to 3.1.2 once MOzilla does their major update17:32
chrisccoulsonmicahg - on all releases?17:32
micahgchrisccoulson: that's what I thought we discussed, maybe that was just what upstream proposed and we never agreed on it17:32
chrisccoulsonyeah, i think upstream proposed that IIRC17:33
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, what do you think?17:33
chrisccoulsonmicahg - did you look in to how much work would be involved to support TB2.0.0.x by backporting security fixes?17:34
micahgmaybe we should wait for 3.1.3 in case there are issues with the major update17:34
micahgchrisccoulson: well, I tried, but the problem is that upstream doesn't publish the patches they use for security issues17:35
jdstrandit was my understanding that we will be required to move to a supported version of tbird when they no longer officially support what we have17:35
jdstrandI was not in on the decision process for tbird though17:35
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, we can do that, but we haven't made a decision just yet17:35
jdstrand(I kinda viewed the firefox transition as the 'mozilla transition', but may have read to omuch into it)17:36
micahgchrisccoulson: also they said it would be difficult17:36
chrisccoulsoni think asac suggested backporting security fixes, but it seems like that's going to be more work to do that17:36
jdstrandI do know that if migrating, 2.0 should go to 3.1 due to some migration fixes that 3.0 caused... other than that, I don't have an opinion17:36
chrisccoulsonespecially seeing as we'll be doing it for 1 more year ;)17:36
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, mozilla are only upgrading 2.0 users to 3.117:37
micahgchrisccoulson: yeah, he did, but I don't even know what exactly qualifies as major enough17:37
jdstrandI would probably prefer just to backport the fixes, but as I'm not the one doing the updates, I probably shouldn't get a vote :)17:37
micahgchrisccoulson: they're also planning on pushing 3.0.x to 3.1.x and EOLing that too17:37
jdstrandbut to backport, we need someone to have full access to the security bugs, like asac did17:38
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, we should get the lucid update ready as well. i can help out with that if you need me to17:38
jdstrandmozilla doesn't like to give that out to just anyway, so it would probably need to be just our mozilla maintainer (ie chrisccoulson)17:38
jdstrands/anyway/anyone/17:38
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'm not sure who to ask about that. perhaps asac would be able to help ;)17:39
micahgchrisccoulson: it shouldn't be hard, but I think we should wait for 3.1.3 for Lucid in case there are issues17:39
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i don't mind too much, but i think we should at least aim to get it in to the PPA asap, so we can fix our own problems with the packaging too17:40
chrisccoulsonwe can still hold off until 3.1.3 to publish the update17:40
micahgchrisccoulson: k, as soon as I have it in Maverick, we'll need to publish tb-locales and enigmail as well17:40
chrisccoulsoncool, thanks17:40
chrisccoulsonthere aren't many TB extensions in lucid are there?17:41
chrisccoulsoni'll try and build a list in a minute17:41
micahgjust 1 I think, the bugmail extension17:41
chrisccoulsonyeah, i think we dropped most of them because they depended on icedove17:42
chrisccoulsonwhich was probably a good idea ;)17:42
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i just got an ACK on the translation merge request, so i'll merge it now18:24
micahgchrisccoulson: k, there are 2 others in bugs, 1 for vietnamese and 1 for chinese if you're doing a FF upload, I'll take care of the TB chinese one18:25
chrisccoulsonmicahg - sure, no problem18:27
DanaGHmm, I wonder why my Firefox still fails at handling "moved permanently".18:33
DanaGAlso odd: it's not broken in safe-mode.18:38
DanaGYEt, it IS broken in normal mode with all addons disabled!18:38
=== micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 (Now in Mozilla Daily PPA) Coming to Maverick This Week | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming Mid August | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW |
micahgchrisccoulson: BTW, I'm testing the update 3.0.x to 3.1.x in Lucid, so we'll get double test coverage on that19:24
chrisccoulsonmicahg - cool, that's good19:25
chrisccoulsonmicahg - do you know why we use a versioned directory for firefox installs? i'm trying to think of how we can stop firefox breaking during upgrades19:27
micahgchrisccoulson: that's the way upstream does it AFAIK, let me find the bug where we were thinking to work around it19:27
chrisccoulsonmicahg - that would be useful. i see that debian use a non-versioned directory for their iceweasel package19:28
micahgcan't find the bug, the idea was that we have a firefox-real which is a symlink to the proper binary, but I don't remember how that helped19:31
chrisccoulsonmicahg - ok, it is just bugmail and enigmail that we need to update in lucid22:43
micahgchrisccoulson: k22:50
micahgchrisccoulson: problem is enigmail won't work w/seamonkey22:52
micahgand neither will lightning when I make it22:53
chrisccoulsoni'm not concerned about lightning, seeing as we don't ship it at all in lucid right now22:53
chrisccoulsonenigmail is more of a problem, but the priority is making sure it carries on working in thunderbird22:53
chrisccoulsonif it stops working in seamonkey, then we can probably release note that22:54
chrisccoulsonwill it work again in SM2.1?22:55
micahgchrisccoulson: the next version should, SM2.1, FF4.0, and TB3.3(?4.0) will be based on xul-2.022:55
BUGabundohttp://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=50678 fixed in chromium so HTML5 is back23:29
bobbyWhen's the next FF4 update?23:34
micahgbobby: works as of last night23:35
micahganother 7-8 hrs23:35
micahgbobby: what chipset?23:35
micahglpia will be tonight23:35
bobbyNo clue, all I know is that it crashes on startup.23:35
micahgbobby: what version do you have?23:36
bobbyFF? 4.0b4pre... Last nights build23:36
micahgbobby: you have the full version?23:36
bobbyYup23:36
micahgbobby: ?23:38
bobbyI have no idea, it starts up, and before I see my homepage, it just crashes.23:38
micahgbobby: dpkg -l | grep firefox-4.023:38
chrisccoulsonbobby, have you tried getting a backtrace? or starting with a fresh profile?23:39
micahgchrisccoulson: my guess is that it's an old version23:39
bobbyWell, I un-installed it last night, along with XULrunner 2.023:39
bobbyHere:23:39
bobbyii  firefox-4.0                           4.0~b4~hg20100809r49183+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1  safe and easy web browser from Mozilla23:39
bobbyii  firefox-4.0-branding                  4.0~b4~hg20100809r49183+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1  Package that ships the firefox branding23:39
bobbyii  firefox-4.0-gnome-support             4.0~b4~hg20100809r49183+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1  Support for GNOME in Mozilla Firefox23:39
micahgit's maverick :P23:40
bobbyAnd, what's wrong with maverick? Didn't work in Lucid either...23:40
micahgbobby: wfm in lucid23:40
bobbyWell, I upgraded on... Friday, and it didn't work before I upgraded23:40
micahgappmenu seems to be breaking maverick from what I've seen23:40
chrisccoulsoncould you get a backtrace bobby? else, there's not much anybody can do23:40
micahgbut chrisccoulson would know better23:40
chrisccoulsonyeah, appmenu-gtk still causes us a problem in FF4.023:41
micahgthe only think I know that's wrong with the current dailies is lpia23:41
micahgand that's fix committed23:41
bobbyah too bad... I can give you the crash report info If you need23:41
chrisccoulsonbobby - a backtrace please, there's not much we can do with the crash report info23:41
micahgchrisccoulson: it's not pushing crashes up to mozilla yet?23:42
bobbyNo it is23:42
chrisccoulsonmicahg - it's enabled, but there are no symbols on the server yet for various reasons23:42
micahgchrisccoulson: understood :)23:43
chrisccoulson1 being that i can't get SSH access from the datacenter, so i'm blocked on a RT with our IS dept23:43
chrisccoulsonand 2 being that the SSH key from my laptop no longer works ;)23:43
chrisccoulsonand the person i need to speak to at mozilla hasn't been around today :/23:43
chrisccoulsonso, i'm a bit stuck23:43

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