=== gavin___ is now known as gavin === gavin__ is now known as gavin === gavin__ is now known as gavin [09:11] Argh! Stupid appmenu keeps crashing Firefox every second time I try to download a file! [09:11] from /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so [09:11] Download file. It works. Download another file: crash. [09:12] Restart firefox. Try to download that second file again... it works. [09:12] Download a third file... crash. [09:29] Fixed it by removing appmenu-gtk. [09:29] Still doesn't follow 301, though! === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:56] FF4 is still crashing at startup :( === asac_ is now known as asac [17:25] micahg - do you think we need the transitional xulrunner-1.9.3* packages in xulrunner-2.0? shouldn't we just rely on applications to pull in the new version by depending on it? [17:26] chrisccoulson: yeah, we don't need them anymore, that was more for the FF4 transition [17:26] micahg - cool, i'll drop those then [17:26] i think i've finished making changes to lp:firefox now [17:28] chrisccoulson: BTW, I pushed tb to my PPA and it still doesn't work (installing), I'll try without the apt-pinning later tonight [17:28] oh, is that for the TB locales? [17:29] i'm still unsure about what we're going to do with thunderbird for pre-lucid releases [17:32] chrisccoulson: yeah, TB+locales [17:32] chrisccoulson: I thought we were going to migrate to 3.1.2 once MOzilla does their major update [17:32] micahg - on all releases? [17:32] chrisccoulson: that's what I thought we discussed, maybe that was just what upstream proposed and we never agreed on it [17:33] yeah, i think upstream proposed that IIRC [17:33] jdstrand, what do you think? [17:34] micahg - did you look in to how much work would be involved to support TB2.0.0.x by backporting security fixes? [17:34] maybe we should wait for 3.1.3 in case there are issues with the major update [17:35] chrisccoulson: well, I tried, but the problem is that upstream doesn't publish the patches they use for security issues [17:35] it was my understanding that we will be required to move to a supported version of tbird when they no longer officially support what we have [17:35] I was not in on the decision process for tbird though [17:35] jdstrand, yeah, we can do that, but we haven't made a decision just yet [17:36] (I kinda viewed the firefox transition as the 'mozilla transition', but may have read to omuch into it) [17:36] chrisccoulson: also they said it would be difficult [17:36] i think asac suggested backporting security fixes, but it seems like that's going to be more work to do that [17:36] I do know that if migrating, 2.0 should go to 3.1 due to some migration fixes that 3.0 caused... other than that, I don't have an opinion [17:36] especially seeing as we'll be doing it for 1 more year ;) [17:37] jdstrand, yeah, mozilla are only upgrading 2.0 users to 3.1 [17:37] chrisccoulson: yeah, he did, but I don't even know what exactly qualifies as major enough [17:37] I would probably prefer just to backport the fixes, but as I'm not the one doing the updates, I probably shouldn't get a vote :) [17:37] chrisccoulson: they're also planning on pushing 3.0.x to 3.1.x and EOLing that too [17:38] but to backport, we need someone to have full access to the security bugs, like asac did [17:38] micahg - yeah, we should get the lucid update ready as well. i can help out with that if you need me to [17:38] mozilla doesn't like to give that out to just anyway, so it would probably need to be just our mozilla maintainer (ie chrisccoulson) [17:38] s/anyway/anyone/ [17:39] yeah, i'm not sure who to ask about that. perhaps asac would be able to help ;) [17:39] chrisccoulson: it shouldn't be hard, but I think we should wait for 3.1.3 for Lucid in case there are issues [17:40] micahg - i don't mind too much, but i think we should at least aim to get it in to the PPA asap, so we can fix our own problems with the packaging too [17:40] we can still hold off until 3.1.3 to publish the update [17:40] chrisccoulson: k, as soon as I have it in Maverick, we'll need to publish tb-locales and enigmail as well [17:40] cool, thanks [17:41] there aren't many TB extensions in lucid are there? [17:41] i'll try and build a list in a minute [17:41] just 1 I think, the bugmail extension [17:42] yeah, i think we dropped most of them because they depended on icedove [17:42] which was probably a good idea ;) [18:24] micahg - i just got an ACK on the translation merge request, so i'll merge it now [18:25] chrisccoulson: k, there are 2 others in bugs, 1 for vietnamese and 1 for chinese if you're doing a FF upload, I'll take care of the TB chinese one [18:27] micahg - sure, no problem [18:33] Hmm, I wonder why my Firefox still fails at handling "moved permanently". [18:38] Also odd: it's not broken in safe-mode. [18:38] YEt, it IS broken in normal mode with all addons disabled! === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 (Now in Mozilla Daily PPA) Coming to Maverick This Week | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming Mid August | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | [19:24] chrisccoulson: BTW, I'm testing the update 3.0.x to 3.1.x in Lucid, so we'll get double test coverage on that [19:25] micahg - cool, that's good [19:27] micahg - do you know why we use a versioned directory for firefox installs? i'm trying to think of how we can stop firefox breaking during upgrades [19:27] chrisccoulson: that's the way upstream does it AFAIK, let me find the bug where we were thinking to work around it [19:28] micahg - that would be useful. i see that debian use a non-versioned directory for their iceweasel package [19:31] can't find the bug, the idea was that we have a firefox-real which is a symlink to the proper binary, but I don't remember how that helped [22:43] micahg - ok, it is just bugmail and enigmail that we need to update in lucid [22:50] chrisccoulson: k [22:52] chrisccoulson: problem is enigmail won't work w/seamonkey [22:53] and neither will lightning when I make it [22:53] i'm not concerned about lightning, seeing as we don't ship it at all in lucid right now [22:53] enigmail is more of a problem, but the priority is making sure it carries on working in thunderbird [22:54] if it stops working in seamonkey, then we can probably release note that [22:55] will it work again in SM2.1? [22:55] chrisccoulson: the next version should, SM2.1, FF4.0, and TB3.3(?4.0) will be based on xul-2.0 [23:29] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=50678 fixed in chromium so HTML5 is back [23:34] When's the next FF4 update? [23:35] bobby: works as of last night [23:35] another 7-8 hrs [23:35] bobby: what chipset? [23:35] lpia will be tonight [23:35] No clue, all I know is that it crashes on startup. [23:36] bobby: what version do you have? [23:36] FF? 4.0b4pre... Last nights build [23:36] bobby: you have the full version? [23:36] Yup [23:38] bobby: ? [23:38] I have no idea, it starts up, and before I see my homepage, it just crashes. [23:38] bobby: dpkg -l | grep firefox-4.0 [23:39] bobby, have you tried getting a backtrace? or starting with a fresh profile? [23:39] chrisccoulson: my guess is that it's an old version [23:39] Well, I un-installed it last night, along with XULrunner 2.0 [23:39] Here: [23:39] ii firefox-4.0 4.0~b4~hg20100809r49183+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 safe and easy web browser from Mozilla [23:39] ii firefox-4.0-branding 4.0~b4~hg20100809r49183+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 Package that ships the firefox branding [23:39] ii firefox-4.0-gnome-support 4.0~b4~hg20100809r49183+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 Support for GNOME in Mozilla Firefox [23:40] it's maverick :P [23:40] And, what's wrong with maverick? Didn't work in Lucid either... [23:40] bobby: wfm in lucid [23:40] Well, I upgraded on... Friday, and it didn't work before I upgraded [23:40] appmenu seems to be breaking maverick from what I've seen [23:40] could you get a backtrace bobby? else, there's not much anybody can do [23:40] but chrisccoulson would know better [23:41] yeah, appmenu-gtk still causes us a problem in FF4.0 [23:41] the only think I know that's wrong with the current dailies is lpia [23:41] and that's fix committed [23:41] ah too bad... I can give you the crash report info If you need [23:41] bobby - a backtrace please, there's not much we can do with the crash report info [23:42] chrisccoulson: it's not pushing crashes up to mozilla yet? [23:42] No it is [23:42] micahg - it's enabled, but there are no symbols on the server yet for various reasons [23:43] chrisccoulson: understood :) [23:43] 1 being that i can't get SSH access from the datacenter, so i'm blocked on a RT with our IS dept [23:43] and 2 being that the SSH key from my laptop no longer works ;) [23:43] and the person i need to speak to at mozilla hasn't been around today :/ [23:43] so, i'm a bit stuck