[05:48] <Prosperian> I would like to know how to get the required skills and experience for one of the Canonical jobs?
[05:48] <Prosperian> i can probably do it pretty fast
[05:48] <Prosperian> is there a aptitude test for which ubuntu job would be best?
[05:48] <Tm_T> Prosperian: I'm afraid this is not the right place to ask
[05:48] <maco> Prosperian: this is the get-unbanned-from-irc channel ;-)
[05:49] <Prosperian> i want to be a software dev or support guy mostly
[05:49] <IdleOne> Prosperian: see www.canonical.com/careers and www.canonical.com for more info, look for a training link
[05:50] <IdleOne> Prosperian aka Hoober
[05:50] <IdleOne> Please leave this channel. We have a no idling rule.
[05:51] <IdleOne> Wow that was easy
[05:54] <IdleOne> the nickname Dick drives my highlights crazy
[05:56] <Madpilot> you ping on swearwords?
[05:56] <IdleOne> certain ones yes
[05:57] <IdleOne> btw Hi Madpilot ltns
[05:57] <IdleOne> :)
[05:58] <Madpilot> been a while, hasn't it? finally got the damned wireless at my new place to talk to me
[05:58] <Madpilot> hates wireless, I do. Real internet comes on long blue cables.
[06:00] <IdleOne> hehe I feel the same
[06:00] <IdleOne> Sometimes grey cables
[06:00] <Madpilot> I'm not used to 15+ second lag on IRC, for example. Not Impressed.
[06:36] <Prosperian> hello
[06:36] <Prosperian> i visited the store. and the training is too costly for now
[06:36] <Prosperian> i like the merchandise though
[06:36] <maco> the training is normal desktop stuff anyway
[06:36] <maco> i think...
[06:36] <Prosperian> it pays to be a professional certified
[06:36] <Prosperian> i thought
[06:37] <maco> yeah but for that you want an LPIC book
[06:37] <maco> but this still isnt the channel for this
[06:37] <Prosperian> oh
[06:37] <Prosperian> ok well i need to be unbanned
[06:37] <Prosperian> so i can go to a channel for this
[06:39] <Prosperian> i am Hoober
[06:39] <Prosperian> the ip is a fios one
[06:39] <Prosperian> it has been 72 hours i believe
[06:39] <IdleOne> it has only been 48 hours, you were told to wait 72 hours
[06:39] <Prosperian> dang
[06:39] <Prosperian> see you this tiem tomorrow
[06:39] <Prosperian> 140am
[06:39] <IdleOne> Good night.
[06:41] <elky> You know, we used to extend bans to wean them off being annoying snots. I'm not sure why we've changed to rewarding their persistance in annoying snottery.
[06:43] <Madpilot> heh
[06:44] <IdleOne> Not sure exactly he was rewarded
[06:44] <IdleOne> how he *
[06:44] <elky> Well, by not being penalised for disrespecting.
[06:46] <IdleOne> I'm not to sure he was disrespectful, this time.
[06:46] <IdleOne> sure he came in 24 hours early
[06:47] <IdleOne> but both times he has entered he hasn't really been an issue and left when asked to
[06:47] <elky> Which is pretty consistently a baiting act of itself with these kinds of trolls.
[06:48] <IdleOne> If he comes  back I'll ping you :)
[07:03] <jussi> IdleOne: the page is now: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/careers
[07:03] <jussi> IdleOne: /careers 404's
[07:03] <IdleOne> thank you.
[07:13] <elky> Because redirects are too nice.
[07:14] <Flannel> elky: The canonical design team has to break all of the links every 12 months or it doesn't get its bonus.
[07:14] <elky> Ah, is /that/ what it is.
[07:15] <maco> i filed a bug the other day on the fact that the job app page is like "for a list, go to ubuntu.com/careers" which was a dead link
[10:30] <jussi> elky: funny thing is, they are hiring someone where part of the job description is to fix redirects: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/canonical_WM/
[10:31] <Tm_T> shame I cannot apply to that job
[10:32] <elky> jussi, it's only taken them 5 years
[10:32] <jussi> heh
[10:32] <Tm_T> you would love my occasional triple redirects with easter eggs
[10:32] <jussi> Tm_T: you can, it says milbank, but they may consider remote work.
[10:32] <elky> This is an ongoing thing, as per what flannel says.
[10:32] <jussi> hehe
[10:32] <elky> jussi, reporting to Online Marketing Manager probably makes that less likely
[10:33] <jussi> perhaps, but if the right person comes along, I know canonical can be flexible ;))
[10:46] <gord> pro-tip, never don't apply for a job you would like because you decided you can't get it. let them decide you can't get it
[10:57] <jussi> exactly
[11:03] <elky> Who says I want that job?
[11:03] <elky> Oh,you mean Tm_T
[11:05] <Tm_T> (:)
[11:05] <elky> gord, also, that's classed as fraud in .au if you're on welfare that makes you apply for a certain number of jobs/$time_period.
[11:07] <gord> really? crazy
[11:09] <jussi> o.O
[11:09] <elky> Yep. The likelihood of you getting busted aiming for a role a bit above your experience isn't high, but they got sick of highschool dropouts applying to law firms and hospitals.
[11:12] <elky> Which is genuinely quite deceitful.
[11:14] <elky> And you know how thick government policy makers can be.
[11:23] <jussi> Hrm, hopefully that worked and we will now have FB bans forwarded here for review, so we dont blindly remove them, but we also dont just leave them without review
[13:07] <Tm_T> neatos
[13:07] <jussi> excellent, it works :)
[13:09] <jussi> Tm_T: so you want to do the honours?
[13:10] <Tm_T> no, sorry, I am currently concentrating to write some job applications (:)
[13:11] <jpds>  
[13:11] <jpds> God, that bot is annoying.
[13:11] <jussi> jpds: ?
[13:51] <ikonia> please don't have the bot message the channel
[14:34] <ikonia> can someone with ops remove Onga_The_Ghastly from #ubuntu-server, it's balzac trolling again
[14:55] <jpds> -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- You are not authorized to root this channel.
[14:58] <ikonia> thank you Pici
[14:58] <Pici> ikonia: hes annoying me in pm too.
[15:00] <ikonia> me too
[15:00] <ikonia> olha bruder
[15:00] <ikonia> etc
[18:06] <funkyHat> topyli: too violent?
[18:06] <topyli> whatwhat
[18:07] <funkyHat> 17:37:53 #ubuntu-offtopic: [topyli] funkyHat: awkward
[18:07] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu papna-work I believe this user is trying to troll
[18:07] <topyli> oh no, that was my idea of a pun. sed was mentioned, i had to slip in awk somehow
[18:08] <topyli> sorry about the pun quality :(
[18:08] <funkyHat> topyli: ohh ⢁D. That one slipped right past me
[18:25] <ikonia> busted linux_op
[18:51] <ikonia> I'll remove it, but can we stop that from the bot please?
[18:51] <IdleOne> heh
[18:52] <Pici> Can we make that not be a notice?
[18:52] <ikonia> that would be better
[18:52] <IdleOne> I was gonna say, CTCP msg from ubottu to comment on floodbot* ban....
[18:52] <Pici> a regular msg to the channel is fine, but notices display iconsistantly across irc clients.
[18:53] <maco> it shows as gold text in the channel for me
[18:53] <IdleOne> I am fine even with a direct pm
[18:53] <ikonia> not sure it's a good idea hitting the channel at all
[18:53] <IdleOne> /msg me all you like bot. but notices will get lost
[18:54] <Pici> Maybe an announcement in ubuntu-ops-monitor would be more appropriate.
[18:54] <IdleOne> hmm not everybody pays attention there
[18:55] <ikonia> in my head it's pointless as you have to be following the channel quite detailed to know why the floodbot did that, and if you did know, you'll already remove it
[18:55] <Pici> Its pointless for floodbot quiets, as it already had removed the quiet.
[18:57] <ikonia> what sort of info do you think it's worth while posting on then ?
[18:57] <Pici> I'd also like to see some discussion before we add these 'features' to the bot.
[18:57] <IdleOne> I don't think the bot should need comments on quiets, they are auto removed anyway, at most an inconvenience if a user is accidentally set +q
[19:31] <ikonia> note I don't believe rsr at all in #ubuntu as in ##windows he made the same clame about running windows
[19:32] <ikonia> he just added the word "ubuntu" for this channel
[19:41] <IdleOne> you really believe your going to convince the troll you're right?
[19:41] <ikonia> yes
[19:41] <ikonia> if he doesn't want to accept it, that's his problem
[19:41] <ikonia> if he carries on I'll just remove him
[19:42] <ikonia> I don't believe his intention, but I'm ahppy to give him the right information
[19:42] <ikonia> what happened with the bot ?
[19:42] <IdleOne> well right now you are both offtopic
[19:42] <ikonia> not at all he's asking how to do it in ubuntu
[19:42] <ikonia> its a reasonable question
[19:43] <ikonia> but as I stated earlier I don't believe his intentions
[19:43] <IdleOne> so drop the discussion. He won't quit
[19:43] <ikonia> he should do
[19:44] <ikonia> it's a reasonable discussion asking how to do it if it's genuine
[19:44] <IdleOne> But since you know it is not genuine, then you shouldn't indulge him
[19:44] <ikonia> I don't know
[19:44] <ikonia> I believe it's not
[19:45] <IdleOne> k
[19:45] <IdleOne> I believe your continued discussion with rsr about something he does not care to learn how to do is disruptive to the channel
[19:45] <ikonia> thats fine, I dissagree
[19:45] <IdleOne> I also believe you removing my +q was out of line
[19:46] <ikonia> it's a legtimate question, if he continued to disbelive me, I'd have delt with it, however I have to give him the chance
[19:46] <ikonia> fair enough
[19:46] <IdleOne> but he is gone now so us arguing about it is pointless
[19:47] <IdleOne> In the end he managed to achieve his goal to troll the channel and waste our time.
[19:49] <ikonia> I don't know if he did or not
[19:49] <ikonia> I believe he wasn't genuine, but he may be and just not fully understand how to ask what he wants
[19:51] <IdleOne> Your replies were coming off as argumentative to him and to me too honestly. On the second time he called you "not smart" I felt he need some quiet time to read the guidelines (my script auto msg links to the guidelines and coc) I was going to msg him and talk to him about it in pm but got distracted.
[19:52] <ikonia> I totally understand what your saying
[19:54] <ikonia> the freespeech rant suggests further than my suspision is correct
[19:54] <ikonia> (in my view)
[19:55] <IdleOne> free speach rant?
[19:55] <ikonia> "it's freespeech so I'll say what I want"
[19:55] <IdleOne> speach??? what the speech*
[19:55] <ikonia> oops
[19:55] <ikonia> yes, speech, thank you
[19:55] <IdleOne> haha no I made the mistake and was correcting myself
[19:56] <ikonia> ooh yes
[19:56] <ikonia> I thought I'd done that as I almost typed it earlier
[19:56] <IdleOne> not sure where you saw that though
[19:57] <ikonia> I didn't type it, I thought I'd typed it this time (as I almost did earlier) and you'd corrected me
[19:58] <IdleOne> lol
[20:01] <Pici> !forget mc44-#ubuntu-offtopic
[20:01] <Pici> !forget hal9000-#ubuntu-offtopic
[20:27] <ikonia> Pici: he's gone, but I think his question will be why can't he talk in #backtrack-linux as I say him trying
[20:27] <ikonia> it's +r
[20:27] <Pici> Oh well.
[21:05] <guntbert> hi, the link http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases in !releases is broken
[21:47] <guntbert> bazhang: do ops usually read backlogs on returning here?
[21:48] <IdleOne> guntbert: some do
[21:49] <IdleOne> I would suspect most do
[21:49] <guntbert> I was asking to know if I should repeat my hint from 22:05
[21:49] <IdleOne> guntbert: what would the new link be?
[21:50] <IdleOne> submit an edit to the !releases factoid
[21:50] <guntbert> IdleOne: I don't know, I just stumbled over "this page doesn't exist"
[21:53] <IdleOne> guntbert: would this be it http://releases.ubuntu.com/ ?
[21:53] <guntbert> IdleOne: I guess not, as that page only contains the releases themselves but not any info about them
[21:54] <guntbert> especially there is no info about old eol releases
[21:55] <guntbert> IdleOne: found it : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[21:57] <IdleOne> Someone will approve the edit soon
[21:57] <guntbert> IdleOne: thx for the guidance :-)
[21:58] <IdleOne> heh thanks for helping guntbert :)
[21:58] <guntbert> :) bye
[22:29] <KE1HA> Can you you all have a chat with LadyTala an in the Ubuntu Channel, way way off topic.
[22:42] <IdleOne> KE1HA: Thanks for the heads up. Please part the channel, there is a no idling rule.
[22:45] <KE1HA> Oh, ok. sri.
[23:21] <luis__> hello
[23:32] <jpds>  
[23:35] <knome> ha
[23:39] <jpds> IdleOne: Please do not point people at releases.u.c, we have mirrors for a reaons
[23:39] <jpds> reason*.
[23:40] <knome> jpds, no one's going to do that ;)
[23:40] <knome> jpds, only linking to wiki in the factoid
[23:40] <jpds> Gut.
[23:42] <jpds> Cakester: Hello.
[23:42] <Cakester> cakester?
[23:43] <Cakester> my name changed.. but how
[23:43] <Cakester> i am hoober
[23:43] <Cakester> it has been long enough has it not?
[23:43] <Cakester> i really am interested in getting with the ubuntu people. my job interview today at the movie theater was terrible. the manager treated me abusively
[23:44] <Cakester> even though i told him it was my first interview
[23:44] <Cakester> i hope if i get to work for Canonical it won't be so bad
[23:46] <Cakester> whoops
[23:58] <Cakester> !help
[23:58] <Cakester> Please unban