[00:06] I used to use pam_mount, that was fun :) [00:14] hey [00:15] i am building my very first raid and was curious how bad is it with the TLER issues with consumer hdd's ? [00:15] is it that common for hdd's to take 7+ seconds to try to fix an error themselves ? [00:42] an encrypted drive set to automount rather defeats the point of an encrypted drive [00:56] Hey guys, running 10.04 here, and I have APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists set to "1", but I'm noticing that the package index is never updated until I explicedly refresh with `apt-get update` (as such, I'm not getting my update notifications sent to me) [01:44] terinjokes: just confirm where you've set it -- i.e. pastebin the file, and you know that's only supposed to update the lists once a day, right? [01:49] giovani: correct, but it's not being updated... one second [01:50] giovani: http://pastebin.com/jHraTu31 [01:53] terinjokes: are you trying to do automatic upgrades, or just notifications of packages that can be upgraded? [01:54] the latter is done automagically via some cron jobs in the desktop install, unsure about the server install -- the former is handled by a specific package (which installs cronjobs) for the server and desktop afaik [01:55] terinjokes: sudo apt-get install unattended-upgrades # for unattended upgrades... and read its docs too. [01:55] yeah, that would be the package for the former [01:56] giovani: i *just* want notification of the new packages [01:57] terinjokes: and how do you plan to get notification? do you have a custom setup for this? or are you using a pre-built mechanism? [01:57] jmarsden: i read those docs, but my understanding of unattended-upgrades is to install the upgrades, which I don't want [01:57] giovani: i already have notifications setup... works great (ie, as soon as i run `apt-get update` i get it...) [01:57] terinjokes: I think you can configure it not to actually do the upgrades, but just let landscape-client tell you what is available to be updated at login... [01:58] i've disabled most of the MOTD scripts [01:59] (so if it was there, then this might explain why they don't happen) [01:59] terinjokes: ok, well without the cronjobs provided by some package (or written by hand) I don't think that variable you set does anything [02:00] giovani: is there some package that setups these crons? would it be best to have unattended-updates installed, and just tell it not to update anything? [02:00] terinjokes: I honestly don't know, but I'd bet that they're in that package, and, jmarsden seems to know more about it -- it likely can be told not to upgrade [02:01] terinjokes: I think yes, just install unattended-upgrades and then *don't* set APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1"; [02:02] I've not used that that way, but I'm pretty sure it will do what you want. [02:02] hi there - i have serios problem - my last try to install ubuntu-server with raid 1 + lvm made unsupported partitioning on my HDD's, so now reinstall normally cant detect my HDDs, so i cant redone partitioning for my HDD ? [02:03] what are my options to clear partition tables/format HDD using busybox ? [02:03] or maybe ubuntu live ? [02:03] all i want to do, is fully clear partitioning data from my HDD's [02:04] so i can do reinstall with /boot partition out of raid [02:04] and looks like i will prefer installing Lilo [02:04] jmarsden: thanks, i'll give that a shot [02:05] terinjokes: You're welcome [02:06] wieshka: If you just want to destroy the partition tables you can do something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1024 count=1024 [02:06] that will wipe the first 1MB of your /dev/sdb drive... is that what you are looking for? [02:06] jmarsden: it shouldnt take a long long process ? [02:06] wieshka: No, just 1MB of writes... [02:06] jmarsden: ok i will try - basicly i want my hards clear [02:07] to set up new installation [02:07] i dont what i messed up [02:07] zeroing the whole drive would take more time, but you don't need to do that just to be sure the installer sees the drive as being "new". [02:07] but my install neither boots up, neither shows correctly in partition detection [02:09] done for both disks, now rebooting to see result [02:09] jmarsden: how long it should take with 500 GB disk to fully write it with zeros ? :) [02:10] it like a formatiing - i am correct ? [02:10] wieshka: depends how your doing it ? [02:10] -? [02:10] I don't remember, I do that kind of thing overnight. Well, writing zeroes to every sector does not technically format the drive. [02:10] But it makes pretty sure noone will read whatever info was on it before :) [02:11] heh [02:11] if you do something like dd bs=2048 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo it will be reasonably quick [02:11] you could set a larger bs too [02:12] but you will still need to format it after [02:12] thx jmarsden - now i have clean two disks :) [02:12] so what is the best suggestions for building RAID 1 [02:12] wieshka: You're welcome :) [02:13] make /boot out of the raid ? [02:13] Guys, can you please take a look here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1548415 [02:13] becouse my disks restursn HDIO_IDENTITY fail (hdparm cant detect by name or something like that) [02:13] so if my boot is inside of raid [02:13] boot after install fails [02:14] so how good is my idea about partitions: make 100m /boot, give it a boot flag, then make 30 Gb swap, and create one big partition on whole disk as raid, and after that as LVM [02:15] so then i can make volume group and do with my partitions on running system what i want [02:16] or the best way is do like this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html [02:16] ? [02:18] There is no "should"; the Server Guide doesn't do LVM with RAID1, just RAID1, for simplicity, I think. If you want LVM, try it your way and it sounds like it should work. [02:18] basicly i want to setup ubuntu server and then KVM with 5 vhs on it [02:19] i wanted to make aprtition for each vh for better performance [02:19] but also i can make a one big partition and use vh as images [02:19] Sounds like a reasonable use case for LVM to me. [02:20] ok - i will give a try with /boot partition out of raid array, and whole disk as raid 1 + LVM [02:20] is it better to make swap out of raid or i can make it under LVM ? [02:20] sorry - first time serious install of ubuntu-server [02:20] on multiple disks [02:21] i have old install/use of ubuntu-server on single disk, but now i am building new one, so trying to make reasonable good install [02:21] so - i am begginer - open for suggestions :) [02:22] wieshka: You won't be swapping anyway really, on a modern machine with gigabytes of RAM, so it probably doesn't matter :) I'm not doing "real" virtualization server builds so I'm not really the best person to get advice from on that. My guess: try the swap outside the LVM. [02:23] outside of LVM and also outside of raid array ? [02:23] hmmm, basicly i have 16 gb ram - so is there need for a swap at real ? [02:24] 16 x 1 Gb [02:24] Perhaps not :) Yocu ould leave a small swap partition outside both RAID and LVM "just in case" it is ever needed. [02:24] hmm, not a bad idea :) [02:27] so summary: i will split each drive (2) in 3 partitions, 100 mb for /boot, 10 Gb for swap (maybe someday i will need it), and whole disk, as raid partition, after that i configure raid 1 as sda3 + sdb3, and set them as LVM volume group, and also i will make ~20 Gb logical volume on LVM as mount point / [02:27] i have to gibe boot flag option to /boot partition ? [02:28] and do i have to set this /boot partition on one disk or on each one ? [02:28] i supouse one only [02:28] so all this stuff/summary should work - so i am going to give a try :) [02:29] wieshka: You can try setting /boot on both drives, then if one drive fails you *might* be able to boot from the other one... although in the past getting that to work has needed some minor messing around, at least for me. [02:30] what messing around [02:30] you think, this configuration will not work on fly - install & go ? [02:31] hmm, /boot must be as primary & at the begining ? [02:31] It should, and maybe these days it will, when I tried it was at least a couple of years ago, Ubuntu RAID support has changed since then. [02:31] & with boot flag [02:32] I would suggest that, if you need the "failover boot" to work, then test it before you have a real disk failure, so you *know* it will work. [02:32] so i made on each drive 100 mb primary partition as ext4, with mount point /boot and bootable flag [02:32] jmarsden: i will test that :) [02:32] at first i need working install :) [02:33] wieshka: True :) [02:33] does swap need botable flag ? [02:33] i supouse no [02:34] and does raid 1 partition needs boot flag ? [02:37] I really doubt it. [02:41] heh, install do not allow me to make to /boot [02:41] so maybe set them in array as md1 and then set on them /boot ? [03:20] jmarsden: still here ? [03:20] Yes... did it work? [03:20] and again my boot stops .... [03:21] with fsck error [03:21] ata_id[650]: HDIO_IDENTITY failed for /dev/sda [03:21] also for sdb [03:21] and next line is, that with my LVM everuthing is ok (check statuss) [03:22] and no more action [03:22] at the same point again .... [03:22] fuck. [03:23] I have not seen that error msg before... does googling for it show anything interesting? [03:24] lets try - i removed one of my disks [03:24] what it will say now [03:24] i even tried to setup with lilo bootloader now [03:24] insted of grub [03:24] as i heard - it haves better compability with raid [03:25] maybe - i should install system on single disk, and after that make RAID 1 over my existing installation [03:25] at start as degraded RAID [03:25] i dont even now anymore- tomorow i have ti put server in data center .... [03:26] Hmmm. a test install to a single disk would be good, so you at least know the hardware is OK and will let you install to it and boot from it. [03:28] Doing a "first time serious install of Ubuntu server" with a constraint of "tomorrow I have to put the server in the data center" sounds like you are trying to learn too much too fast... [03:29] jmarsden: i am this problem already 3 days [03:29] on this [03:29] heh :D :D :D [03:30] Came in late to the conversation guys, what's the issue? [03:30] i swicthed disk slots and now it works - whata hell [03:30] asks login - give me moment i want to really test that RAID 1 worked or it is a degraded mode [03:30] wieshka: Ah, so maybe one of the "disk slots" is bad in your hardware, or the drive was not fully plugged in, or something? [03:31] but if it shows up in BIOS and also durring install - connection & hardware must be good [03:31] i dint changed hot swap ports [03:31] i them only switched [03:31] texastwister: Software RAID1 install to wieshka's new server, it has not been booting... until just now, at least! [03:32] yeah, but i have to check is everything ok :) [03:32] wieshka: Indeed. I suggest you test it a lot in your remaining time... at least it now boots :) [03:32] i full y agree [03:33] hdparm still outputs that he cant recognize this HDD model [03:34] it is simple enterprise edition server HDD from seagete [03:34] weird [03:36] hmmmm, mdadm returns that disk are in active sync statuss [03:36] what else test i should perform ? [03:39] dmesh also says that raid1 is active with 2 of 2 mirrors [03:40] also /proc/mdstat says that RAID is active [03:45] wtf - now bootup hangs [03:45] its not normal .... [03:46] No, that's not normal... sounds like you have some sort of weird intermittent boot issue. [03:46] the disks should sync durring bootup or after that ? [03:47] You did a clean shutdown/reboot, right, you didn't just hit the reset button? [03:47] i run command reboot from shell [03:47] now i did reset .... [03:47] lets se, what i have there [03:47] now [03:47] BIOS detects both drives .... [03:47] LILO runned [03:48] hmmm only one disk activity is flashing [03:49] i am confused - now it again booted well [03:49] Does cat /proc.mdstat still look fine? [03:49] eem .... no [03:49] there is that HDIO identity again [03:49] but later showed up then last time [03:50] hmmm, wait ..... my disks activity LED is flashing for both disks [03:50] maybe i should give them a try [03:50] some sync or something ? [03:50] I think you could have some sort of weird hardware issue, I would research that HDIO_identity message some more. [03:51] If you want to give the disks a bit ot a test workout, you could use bonnie++ or some other disk performance test tool. [03:52] hmmmm, my sata disks are connected via SAS on motherboard [03:52] maybe i should switch to sata ? [03:53] or i am miising some disconfiguration in BIOS ? [03:53] I have no idea... sorry :) [03:53] ok, looks like i have to cancel tomorrows data center :D [03:53] hmmm, HDDs activity still flashed [03:54] lets try what happens, when i remove one HDD [03:54] as degraded mode activated, it should work [04:59] jmarsden: heh, single install works like a charm .... [04:59] so now trying to set raid over existing installation :) [05:30] I have one server with all my domains pointed to it and my webserver setup on it.. Currently it's also my mail server but I'm looking to forward all the mail to a second server. Is the best way to do that to just update the dns record and point the mail commands to the second server's ip? [05:32] You would point all MX records the second server, yes. Possible also update all A records for mail.DOMAIN.com to point there too, and pop.DOMAIN.com if you have folks using those naming conventions for their incoming and outgoing mail. [05:33] * twb pedantically points out that "example.net" exists for examples like that. [05:34] jmarsden: thanks. I'm the only one using it.. I have like 9 emails I'm using over imap right now and it's bogging down the main server too much [05:34] Not much of a server if one user can bog it down :) But OK. [05:35] jmarsden: Well I mean my email client is maintaining about 9 imap connections simultaneously it's not a beefy server [05:35] 512mb VPS [05:35] OK. I run a mailserver with 150 domains and maybe 1200 or more email users, it also runs 100 or so small web sites :) [05:35] daaayum :P [05:35] How much ram though :P [05:36] 4GB. Basic cheap rackmount server. [05:37] yeah webserver is running nginx reverse proxy to apache ( dynamic content only ) it does well the process count is what keeps going a bit red when I keep my email client open [05:37] postfix and dovecot should place negligible load on the server [05:37] twb: that's what I'm running [05:38] It also could be that Apple Mail ( desktop client ) opens about 5 connections for each account to the server to speed up stuff [05:38] robertpayne: Then most likely, removing your email from that server will not significantly affect how bogged down it is... are you 100% sure it is the email slowing things down? [05:39] jmarsden: I Shouldn't say it's "slowing it down" or necessarily any sort of speed decrease.. I just simply am getting process count warnings from my host.. if I close my email client the process count drops by about 40-50 [05:40] I'm also setting up a dev box as a backup to my production box ( because not doing so is retarded.. ) and thus was going to offload the mail to the dev box but back it up to the production box nightly [05:40] OK... odd that your host cares about process count... CPU load, or RAM usage, sure... but process count? [05:41] guys any known apps that can do directory service for windwos client PC and windos client PC..? [05:41] jmarsden: heh not really sure if they care so much but their status panel does show alerts when it gets too high.. I know kinda dumb.. maybe something to do with VPS stuff who knows [05:42] robertpayne: Samba 4 can act as an AD server [05:42] Sorry, bad completion [05:42] maybe I'll just leave it on the main box.. like I said not really an issue just figured I'd forward it to the dev box [05:42] and wanted to make sure modifying the DNS was the best way [05:44] twb: i can do it with samba4 [05:44] anyways i got to go for now thx for answers [05:46] robertpayne: You're welcome [05:47] ruben23: samba4 is not really production ready yet though [05:47] at least on my last try a few months back [05:47] I think ill just leave it on main box.. and use dev box as backup MX :) [06:32] Hey guys, I could use some help making US get along with the internet [06:32] it won't play nice with my wifi and i have been at it all weekend [06:34] sorry about this question...somebody know what mean the blue color in the zone file with bind and why some of them are in blue color and others not? [06:39] pheelineerie: can you be more specific? [06:40] Roxyhart0: maybe you can paste your zone file at http://paste.ubuntu.com and we can look at it ourselves? [06:40] SpamapS: well for example iwconfig says this: IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any. Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated [06:41] pheelineerie: that seems to mean that you're not associated to any SSID's [06:41] trying things with apt-get results in a bunch of Failed to fetch errors [06:42] yes, and I've been trying to set it but i can't get it to take my network name [06:42] pheelineerie: are you sure your wifi chipset is fully supported? [06:42] i would think so, because it was working with ubuntu 10.04 before i installed server [06:43] perhaps the desktop kernel has patches applied to it which the server kernel does not [06:43] pheelineerie: so 'iwconfig eth0 essid "yournet"' doesn't work? [06:44] mase_wk: unless you explicitly select a different kernel, they both should get the generic. [06:44] k [06:44] i didn't know if you had installed the -server kernel [06:44] Tho I think desktop makes it really easy to install non-opensource drivers, IIRC [06:44] SpamapS: i've tried that command but with wlan0 instead of eth0... should i try with eth0? [06:44] pheelineerie: no [06:44] pheelineerie: And the result was.. ? [06:44] it sees the networks when i do the scan thing [06:45] SpamapS: the result was nothing, i restarted interfaces and still the same problem [06:45] SpamapS: i'm putting the name of my wireless network in quotes, but there is a space in it, does that matter? [06:46] SpamapS: and when i say the result was nothing, i mean it just accepted it and went to the next command line with no feedback [06:46] pheelineerie: when you restarted interfaces, you probably wiped out the essid. [06:46] SpamapS: o. [06:46] i thought i was supposed to. lol [06:46] * pheelineerie feels dumb [06:47] pheelineerie: run it, then run 'iwconfig wlan0' again, and see if it shows something different [06:47] pheelineerie: the idea is to set your essid, then the card should associate to the correct AP [06:47] pheelineerie: once you're associated, then the dhcp client that is already running on wlan0 should get an IP. [06:47] well now it says ESSID:"Kansas 2" but it still gives me "Failed to fetch" etc [06:48] I'm honestly quite ignorant at the proper convention for using iwconfig on server.. [06:48] but for a manual test, this should work [06:48] pheelineerie: what still says "failed to fetch" ? [06:49] well i've been testing to see if it was online by trying "sudo apt-get update" [06:49] SpamapS: and it gives me a bunch of "Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' type errors [06:50] pheelineerie: right because it hasn't received a network configuration from your DHCP server yet... [06:50] pheelineerie: is wlan0 listed in /etc/network/interfaces? [06:50] I hosed my samba conf file. I'm not sure how, but I'm content with going back to the default conf file. How do I do this? [06:52] ohzie: you can move the damaged conf file out of the way, and reinstall samba [06:52] ohzie: as in, 'apt-get remove samba && apt-get install samba' [06:52] ohzie: if you don't want to do that, you can also extract the file from the .deb, but thats sort of complex [06:53] SpamapS: No that solution is perfect and makes sense. [06:53] somebody know how i can create a domain aleas with bind? [06:53] SpamapS: right now interfaces has the following lines: auto lo / iface lo inet loopback / # auto wlan0 / iface wlan0 inet dhcp / wireless-mode managed / wireless-essid 'Kansas 2' / wireless-key 20830835u0fjf etc [06:53] When I tried reinstalling, the conf file was still there [06:53] I don't know why it never occurred to me to just delete the damned thing. [06:53] God, I feel stupid right now. [06:54] ohzie: Confusion is the only way we grow. :) [06:55] pheelineerie: hrm.. well that seems very logical.. not sure what to tell you [06:55] SpamapS: Yeah I've been using linux since Red Hat 6. I should have known better. =P [06:55] It's just late and I am exhausted. Thank you so much for putting up with me. [06:56] ohzie: its our pleasure, thanks for using Ubuntu. :) [06:58] I haven't actually used anything Redhat based since FC4, and I recently threw Centos 5 on a server at work. For anyone wondering? Centos is so different from Debian/Ubuntu that I am helpless most of the time. It's really horrible, and I can't stand it, and the default user you create during the install is not added to the sudoers file. [06:58] so i intend to replace that with pure Debian or Karmic as soon as I can [06:59] Hey guys I'm trying to use webdav and for some reason its not working [07:00] I have set everything up but when I try to use my mac to connect to it it says it doesn't exist. If I got to the domain in a browser it asks for password and user [07:05] SpamapS: So I removed samba, deleted my smb.conf, and then reinstalled samba, and it didn't install a conf file. [07:05] I'm not sure how to react to that. [07:07] ohzie: did you purge it ? [07:07] lifeless: Don't know that one. [07:07] !purge [07:08] He doesn't know anything about purge. [07:08] ohzie: dpkg has two separate states for software which you have removed. [07:08] ohzie: the first state, 'removed' has the binaries/docs/libraries etc gone, but keeps the config files. [07:08] ohzie: the second state, 'purged' removes the config files too. [07:08] ohzie: installing software which was only removed, does not touch the config files, because they are already present :) [07:09] ohzie: so, if you purge samba, then install it again, it should do what you want. [07:09] 'apt-get purge samba' [07:10] just make sure you've got backups of any important samba files [07:14] Can the webdav you set up on ubuntu work with macs, pcs? [07:16] wwwwwwwwgouge [07:16] grr [07:17] ajmitch lifeless: Thank you very much. :D [07:19] Question: do i HAVE to configure Server on the command line? Does it come with any kind of gui at all? i know they can be downloaded but i can't get it online to do so, and i'm going insane :'( [07:22] pheelineerie: you do have to get it online to install the commandline tools. [07:23] pheelineerie: "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" has hilarious results on ubuntu server. The GDM theme has purple on it?! I don't know where it came from, but I like it a lot more than the default gdm theme in normal ubuntu. [07:23] ohzie: but the problem is the fact that i can't get it to connect to my wifi, so i can't install any packages [07:25] pheelineerie: I've never done wifi from the command line. I wonder if ebox has a network-manager applet? [07:25] ohzie: it is weird and annoying and it's making me feel very dumb. i installed ubuntu-server and it just came up to the command line. i don't know of any other way to do anything? [07:26] pheelineerie: Don't feel dumb. Feel inexperienced, and realize that learning how to do this will grant you that experience. It will make you feel less dumb. =P [07:26] ohzie: i don't know what ebox is, but i just typed network-manager and it said command not found. i don't know if that answers the question [07:27] network-manager is a service that controls networking in my desktop systems. [07:27] I don't know if server uses it, to be honest. [07:27] Let me see. [07:27] !!!!! [07:27] Found what i was looking for. [07:28] Everything i use wifi on, I use "knetworkmanager" which is a graphical thing. [07:28] but there is a terminal one [07:28] can you try the command "nmcli" ? [07:28] I've not used it so I don't know if it's installed or what the results are [07:28] but I know that it is a terminal-based client for network manager. [07:28] you may as well just use wpa_supplicant directly & setup the interface in /etc/network/interfaces [07:29] ajmitch: that's what i've been trying to do all day, and i do believe i have completely and utterly failed [07:29] sigh [07:30] ohzie: nmcli: command not found [07:30] * ajmitch wouldn't expect any of the network-manager stuff to be present [07:31] ohzie: is your nick in reference to otzi, the frozen guy? cause that would be awesome [07:31] pheelineerie: No. [07:32] ohzie: oh. [07:32] pheelineerie: Although, upon googling 'Otzi' I do approve of names referencing him, and I will probably use his name from now on in Supreme Commander. [07:32] ohzie: :D [07:39] oh my god. i think i am an idiot [07:40] if i do "sudo nano filename" on a file that doesn't exist.... it creates a new file, doesn't it? [07:40] i think instead of appending something to interfaces.conf or whatever file it was supposed to be, i just created a new, useless file and put the stuff there [07:41] * pheelineerie smacks forehead [07:47] ajmitch: I did sudo aptitude purge samba4, and it ran, and I reinstalled, and I still don't have a conf file. [07:47] New bug: #614195 in apache2 (main) "Apache2 UserDir defaults to User www-data" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614195 [07:48] ohzie: it may be in samba-common [07:48] (or samba4-common) [07:49] Is there a way to ask samba what conf file it grabbed when it started up? [07:52] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html [07:53] when I get done with the first 9 steps, it complaints that there is no file system defined for root [07:53] and wont let me continue [07:54] ajmitch: Yes, the conf file is included in samba-common and wasn't removed because it is a dependancy for freenx and smbfs. Thank you so much for helping me look in the right place! =D [07:58] :/ [08:00] oh wait [08:02] WalterN: Do you have a partition that has a mounting point of "/" [08:02] ? [08:03] Is there a standard directory structure for a multi-site dedicated server [08:03] ? [08:03] silly me [08:04] dont go to continue at the bottom, select RAID at one of the top options after arranging the partitions for RAID [08:04] 0.o [08:04] nllptr: Most companies will put the WWW folder in the user's home directory, or if each site is running in a VM it will just be under /var/www like normal, but inside the VM. [08:05] WalterN: lol [08:05] ohzie: if the sites are larger and have multiple developers should the sites be put into a group's home directory instead? [08:06] Okay, so I made the changes to the default conf file, and now everything is hosed again. Ugh. [08:06] hmm [08:06] nllptr: I would have them in VMs because I am lazy annd not that good with apache. [08:06] and* [08:07] I am better with VMs than I am with apache, so I would do that option [08:07] but I know some apache ninjas who could probably work it out either way and it would be amazing. [08:07] so I can't really answer what is the best option...but I can tell you what I'd do and why! :D [08:09] here is the server box I made last week... http://i36.tinypic.com/ivx355.jpg? [08:09] installing Ubuntu for that as a server :) [08:10] ohzie: are VMs any less efficient? [08:10] ohzie: I can't seem to find any good documentation on setting up hosting in a VM on google :S [08:12] nllptr: Currently I only use virtualbox, that won't work for your purposes. You're going to want to look at Xen. [08:12] Xen is, I've heard, awesome and amazing. [08:12] I haven't touched it because I haven't needed to yet [08:12] but I hope to in the near future. [08:14] I love my server box [08:18] nllptr: if you have the hardware support VT-x i'd recommend looking at KVM to. [08:19] Not that Xen is bad in anyway, but we've just migrated from Xen to KVM as the management is fairly trivial [08:19] <_chris_> moin all :) [08:20] moin [08:20] well, there goes the install [08:20] mase_wk: are you using libvirt? [08:20] yarp [08:20] mase_wk: not sure the hardware will support it. The site we're running is a non-profit teenage-run teenage portal site for teenagers running on donated computers [08:20] two RAID1 arrays for SWAP and /, one RAID5 for extra storage pool, 3x 2tb drives :) [08:21] nllptr: yeh if the hardware doesn't support it Xen is useful [08:22] does it build the arrays before it installs? [08:23] as in, do I need to wait 8 hours while it builds the RAID5 of 4tb? [08:25] hi somebody know how to create a domain aleas with dname? where i need to put the record as is not working [08:26] Roxyhart0: well, obviously you need to put the DNAME resource record in the zone for the domain you want to set it for. [08:27] i did but i think im doind something wrong as is not working..what should be the sintax? [08:28] i got WHCL. IN DAME WHCL.COM [08:28] Roxyhart0: foo DNAME target.example.com. [08:28] i got WHCL. IN DAME WHCL.COM. [08:28] Roxyhart0: DAME != DNAME [08:28] yes sorry dname [08:35] Roxyhart08: the period after WHCL is probably wrong, unless it's the zone file for the zone 'WHCL.' [08:36] Roxyhart08: you should also describe 'not working' in a little more detail... [08:36] yes the ast one is the file zone [08:36] when i do nslookup fot WHCl tell me palm.whcl.com (ns) doesn find whcl [08:40] ok, guess I dont need to wait for it to build [08:40] good [08:40] installing [08:42] We're going to start completely fresh and set up our four servers from scratch. Any tips on what we can do so it'll be easy to track down problems later on? Any conventions we should follow? [08:42] We're using one server for a shared hosting service for ourselves. Right now everyone just uses sudo to modify virtualhost settings [08:42] Any better way? [08:44] nllptr: etckeeper is an easy one [08:53] How do I dump the output of a command to a text file? [08:54] Nevermind, I found it. [08:54] I'm going to put my errors and my conf file in a pastebin [08:54] because I am so blown away, I don't know what to do. :[ [08:56] Does ubuntu automatically logrotate the syslog file or do you have to setup that manually? [08:56] robertpayne: That depends if there is a config for the specific file [08:57] Jeeves_: I don't see anything in logrotate.d so I'm going to assume no [08:57] robertpayne: Which file? === lenios_ is now known as lenios [08:58] Jeeves_: er do you mean a config file for log rotate? There's no mention in /etc/logrotate.conf or /etc/logrotate.d/* [08:58] robertpayne: No, which file should be rotated? [08:59] Jeeves_: /var/log/syslog /var/log/mail.log [09:00] http://paste.ubuntu.com/475330 - I've been trying to figure this out for a while and I'm at a loss. === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann-away === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [09:03] robertpayne: There should be a config for those files [09:03] robertpayne: /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog [09:03] Jeeves_: ohh it might be hidden crap haha [09:04] Jeeves_: nope doesn;t exist hmm [09:05] robertpayne: Do you have rsyslog installed? [09:05] Or are you on a older Ubuntuversion? [09:05] Jeeves_: sec [09:05] Jeeves_: running 10.4 server [09:06] .04 [09:06]