[00:11] <gwhip> doing a dist-upgrade today ... trying to remove a lot of xserver stuff. should i let it?
[00:12] <Daekdroom> gwhip, not at all
[00:12] <gwhip> ok
[00:13] <gwhip> will wait
[00:15] <BUGabundo> gwhip: aptitude safe-upgrade is your friend
[00:18] <duffydack> anywhere yet with your mkv?
[00:21] <BUGabundo> gave up
[00:21] <BUGabundo> tried to use another laptop via HDMI to tv
[00:21] <BUGabundo> crashed twice
[00:21] <BUGabundo> totem showed chopped images, vlc would not leave pause, mplayer froze
[00:22] <BUGabundo> guess ATI doesn't really like 1080p HDMI
[01:11] <Andre_Gondim> if I did upgrade, when I reboot will crash my X server?
[01:20] <BUGabundo> anything can happen
[01:21] <duffydack> tried split with  1, 5 or 10mb file?  I can have a look then.
[01:25] <BUGabundo> you will need a 50MBs file to  have just one minute
[01:25] <BUGabundo> they are 720p files.
[01:25] <BUGabundo> 50min, 2.1GB
[01:26] <BUGabundo> in any case.... 1:30 am... bed time. talk to you tomorrow :P
[01:26] <duffydack> make it a 10mb file, still the same
[01:27] <duffydack> even if its 1 second, its 1 second with audio/video I can work with
[01:27] <duffydack> ok..
[02:08] <high-rez> So my +1 system won't startup fully - and I can't see why due to bootsplash (plymouth?).
[02:08] <high-rez> What is the proper way to disable it now that ubuntu uses grub2 ?
[02:12] <virtuald> press shift to get to the menu, it might have to be the left shift key
[02:32] <high-rez> That disables grub's splash - but plymouth is still present.  I just booted into recover and told it to continue to go from there.
[02:33] <high-rez> Turns out the problem was the new xorg server won't work with the nvidia drivers (proprietary - not nouveau) due to a missing symbol.
[02:33] <high-rez> Which If I read right is actually fixed in the newest (256.44) series of drivers.
[03:17] <DanaG> Argh, can't install compiz updates without losing compiz-fusion-plugins-extra.
[03:17] <DanaG> compiz-fusion-plugins-extra depends upon compiz-core-abiversion-20090619
[03:18] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-fusion-plugins-extra/+bug/613023
[03:33] <phoenix__> hello everyone
[03:34] <phoenix__> have some problem upgrading to 10.10 rc3
[03:34] <phoenix__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/475716/
[03:39] <Volkodav> high-rez: so what's the solution ? get the new drivers or use nouveau vesa etc ?
[03:39] <Volkodav> or sit out this mess?
[03:41] <Kai_> When trying to upgrade to maverick, I get this: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[03:41] <Kai_> What should I do?
[03:43] <Volkodav> upgrade from what ?
[03:43] <Kai_> lucid.
[03:43] <Kai_> i forgot to mention that, sorry :p
[03:43] <Volkodav> is your lucid up to date ?
[03:44] <Kai_> yes.
[03:44] <Volkodav> and how do you start upgrade ?
[03:45] <Kai_> sudo update-manager -d
[03:45] <Volkodav> I suggest you sit out a day or two
[03:46] <Kai_> what would that do?
[03:46] <Volkodav> change the packages around
[03:47] <high-rez> Volkodav: I've moved to nouveau for the moment.
[03:47] <Volkodav> did you reboot high-rez ?
[03:48] <high-rez> nope
[03:49] <high-rez> i just unloaded the nvidia module (rmmod nvidia) and changed xorg.conf to use nouveau instead of nvidia
[03:49] <high-rez> that was it.
[03:49] <Volkodav> I can't afford nouveau I am sure if it supports dual head at my res
[03:49] <Volkodav> why did you do that though ?
[03:49] <high-rez> Cause installing 256.44 from source mucks things up.
[03:49] <high-rez> It doesn't work well with ubuntu's alternatives system
[03:49] <Volkodav> getting yourselg ready for ther mess ?
[03:49] <Volkodav> never did
[03:50] <high-rez> Jeah
[03:50] <Volkodav> get the nvidia driver back and run the box till they fix it big deal
[03:50] <high-rez> I suppose I coudl just manually replace the files, but I'm a bit lazy for all that.
[03:50] <Volkodav> modprobe nvidia (back!) lol
[03:51] <Volkodav> I am even lazier - I removed the xorg and I know nothing happens till reboot - whick may happen by New year ! lolz
[03:53] <high-rez> or until another abi change in udev mucks everything up (i can't believe how much udev changes... constantly)
[04:03] <Volkodav> high-rez: want to reboot and see what's up ?
[04:23] <scarper> hi
[04:23] <scarper> anyone has tried to install alpha 3 netbook edition?
[04:24] <Kai_> nope.
[04:37] <scarper> hmm... /me wonders if it is better to try an upgrade than to try a fresh install with the iso
[04:37] <scarper> which seems to not be working at the time
[04:54] <Andre_Gondim> any workaround to problem in xorg?
[05:29] <philip___> I cannot adjust the brightness (through Fn keys or brightness applet) although pressing Fn keys does show the notification slider. Any ideas?
[05:34] <mxe5> Is there a netbook release out for the newest 10.10 yet ? ?
[05:59] <scarper> ok, found a workaround
[06:38] <DanaG> argh, well, fglrx is dead.
[06:38] <DanaG> And g-p-m crashes with Radeon.
[06:41] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/ezGfjSJZ
[06:47] <DanaG> ah, time to pin LP-PPA-xorg-edgers at really high priority.
[06:55] <DanaG> AAaaah, back to fglrx, and quiet.
[06:56] <DanaG> Less fan noise.
[07:19] <JayminP> hey guys can anyone help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9700949#post9700949
[07:19] <JayminP> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549469
[07:21] <JayminP> ?
[08:33] <alakhia> one use "kde news" plasmoid? I get this weird scrolling bug
[08:34] <alakhia> any time i move my mouse over it (without giving focus), the window scrolls
[08:36] <alakhia> a bit distracting initially and annoying after a while
[08:37] <knittl> 794 mb memory usage for indicator-applet
[08:38] <knittl> 794.8
[08:42] <alakhia> that's a bit much
[08:43] <knittl> 795.2
[08:43] <alakhia> must be leaking memory
[08:43] <knittl> yip
[08:43] <knittl> every time rhythmbox advances a song it goes +0.75
[08:44] <alakhia> might be leaking the song meta data
[08:44] <knittl> i think it's related to notifications
[08:45] <knittl> with pidgin notifs it goes up by ~0.1 mb (maybe a little less)
[08:45] <Ian_corne> danag, you got fglrx to work?!
[08:46] <knittl> 808.3
[08:47] <alakhia> restarting the indicator applet might bring the total back down
[08:47] <knittl> alakhia: yeah. but i want to see how high it goes :D
[08:48] <alakhia> sure ... but swapping won't be fun unless you like seeing redraws in slow motion
[08:49] <knittl> memory is currently 88% (+5% cache)
[08:49] <knittl> 273 mb swapped
[08:49] <knittl> firefox also taking ~1 gb at the moment
[08:50] <knittl> but that's not unusual for firefox xD
[08:50] <knittl> 809.8
[08:54] <knittl> 815.8
[08:56] <Ian_corne> It'll just go up till your oom killer kicks in knittl
[08:58] <knittl> Ian_corne: it's fun :D (816.5)
[09:40] <tasslehoff> !find libgmp.so.10
[10:34] <wzssyqa> I copied fonts from XP, and run sudo fc-cache -fv,then firefox can not display most web page correctly
[10:37] <TheInfinity> wzssyqa: you should use msttcorefonts instead of just copying around ...
[10:37] <wzssyqa> TheInfinity: before, i can do this . Is there something change in 10.10?
[10:38] <TheInfinity> don't think so, but i did not try out
[10:58] <wzssyqa> TheInfinity: haha, i know now, i have not make it readable for user
[11:24] <rye> nvidia driver in maverick - undefined symbol WindowTable
[11:41] <rye> are there any reports about ath5k not working in 2.6.35-14 ?
[12:15] <kangarooo> hello yester day got crash on updates https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/615577 now cant start computer
[12:16] <kangarooo> comp doesnt start on any kernel. now im in recovery mode and pressed start
[12:22] <yofel> bug 615577
[12:25] <DrHalan> xserver upgrade is about to go dowwn
[12:39] <kangarooo> cant start comp adter upgrade 14h ago
[12:41] <kangarooo> at least not in normal mode any kernel not working. only recovery mode works.
[12:43] <DrHalan> kangarooo: are you sure you still have all the xorg packages?
[12:43] <DrHalan> or did you do a dist-upgrade in the last 24 hours
[12:44] <kangarooo> DrHalan: i did 14 h ago sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:45] <kangarooo> while upgrading got crsh bug 615577 witch i reported then restarted and comp loads Xubuntu logo then stops thinking and shows nothing new. ctrl+alt+del works to restart. now im in recovery mode
[12:45] <kangarooo> how to check if i have xorg packages?
[12:45] <kangarooo> i installed aptitude that will help easyr to search yes?
[12:48] <kangarooo> DrHalan: i did update and distupgrade.
[12:49] <kangarooo> ill try doinn that again
[12:53] <kangarooo> what means on running update terminal shows. its recomended to run defoma-app purge libwmf0.2-7
[12:54] <kangarooo> s/update/d-upgrade
[13:01] <DrHalan> kangarooo: you shouldn't do that today
[13:02] <DrHalan> you maybe don't have xserver-xorg installed anymore
[13:02] <Pici> DrHalan: Is there a known issue?
[13:02] <kangarooo> how to check that in terminal? i got tty1 from recovery mode
[13:03] <DrHalan> the xserver is upgraded to 1.9
[13:03] <DrHalan> i takes some time until the dependencies are fine again
[13:03] <Pici> Oh, so normal dependency hell?
[13:03] <DrHalan> during that time you should only do upgrade because it will hold the broken packages back
[13:03] <DrHalan> yap
[13:03] <northline_> /dev/audio0 missing in 10.10 pls help
[13:04] <DrHalan> if i'd do dist-upgrade te following packages would be removed on my machine: xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-chips
[13:06] <DrHalan> kangarooo: do apt-get update / apt-get dist-upgrade and look if it wants to remove some packages
[13:07] <kangarooo> no now it doesnt want. i did that 10min ago and it installed 15packages and also gave info its recomended to run defoma-app purge libwmf0.2-7
[13:08] <kangarooo> now i did aptitude search xserver-xorg-video-all and got output    p   xserver-xorg-video-all    .. what means p ? installed or not?
[13:09] <kangarooo> DrHalan: all 3 ur menationed packages shows p and not i (installed) so yeah they somhow removed themselfes
[13:13] <kangarooo> now checked dpkg-query --show | less and installed xserver- common xorg xorg-core video-intel video-openchrome video-radeon ( but i dont have radeon why then its intalled? i have nvidia) thats all from xserver
[13:14] <northline_> Ive noticed the total absense of /dev/audio0 and /dev/audio1 on my machine at 10.10 (was there in 10.04)
[13:15] <northline_> but can see the cards in 'sound recorder'
[13:24] <DrHalan> kangarooo: the easiest thing for you is to justwait until the dependencies are fixed
[13:24] <DrHalan> and then you do apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[13:32] <phoenix__> hello everyone
[13:32] <phoenix__> i just now upgraded to 10.10 rc3
[13:32] <DrHalan> rc3?
[13:32] <DrHalan> you mean alpha
[13:32] <phoenix__> i have trouble with the nvidia driver
[13:33] <DrHalan> phoenix__: whats the problem? works fine here
[13:33] <phoenix__> the one with kde 4.5
[13:33] <phoenix__> after the upgrade i am not able to start the xserver
[13:33] <DrHalan> how did you upgrade
[13:34] <phoenix__> do-release-upgrade -d
[13:34] <DrHalan> uh
[13:34] <DrHalan> thenyour  xserver is broken
[13:34] <DrHalan> because maverick is moveing form 1.8 to 1.9 at the moment
[13:34] <DrHalan> best you wait for a day and then do a dist-upgrade
[13:35] <phoenix__> can i reinstall xserver
[13:35] <DrHalan>  mh i don't konw
[13:36] <DrHalan> try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[13:36] <phoenix__> can i try reconfiguring xserver
[13:38] <DrHalan> phoenix__: the packages are just broken. in general before upgradeing you should come into this channel and ask if its a good moment to upgrade
[13:38] <DrHalan> right now you just have to wait
[13:39] <phoenix__> ok. is there a way to increse the display resolution in failsafe mode
[13:42] <phoenix__> DrHalan: ok. is there a way to increse the display resolution in failsafe mode
[13:43] <DrHalan> i have no idea
[13:44] <phoenix__> ok.thank  you
[13:44] <phoenix__> bye
[13:57] <Volkodav> So what do we do with nvidia now ? update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf because link group gl_conf is broken.
[13:58] <Ian_corne> abandon ship!
[14:00] <DrHalan> mh i don't even know if nvidida-current works with xorg 1.9
[14:50] <ubuntu51> the final release of new ubuntu
[14:50] <ubuntu51> i mean 10.10
[14:51] <ubuntu51> how stable is 10.10
[14:53] <phoenix__> DrHalan: when will the upgrade to 10.10 available
[14:54] <rye> phoenix__, the target date for maverick meerkat / 10.10 is 10.10.2010
[14:55] <rye> phoenix__, i believe have missed the point of the question
[14:56] <phoenix__> the one with kde 4.5 rc3
[14:56] <rye> DrHalan, it looks like it does not - undefined symbol Xorg.1.log:[    25.017] dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so: undefined symbol: WindowTable
[14:59] <KukuNut> phoenix__: it's now 4.5
[15:01] <phoenix__> KukuNut: what is the current version of kubuntu
[15:01] <KukuNut> phoenix__: stable 10.04 development 10.10
[15:02] <phoenix__> can u tell the dev sub version
[15:02] <KukuNut> phoenix__: KDE is now 4.5 final in both version
[15:03] <phoenix__> KukuNut: i upgraded to 10.10
[15:04] <phoenix__> KukuNut: i have some problem with xserver.dr halan said my xserver is broken and said i should have waited till the next upgrade
[15:06] <KukuNut> phoenix__: if you used aptitude you should have been ok
[15:06] <phoenix__> i used do-release-upgrade -d command
[15:07] <KukuNut> aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade
[15:08] <KukuNut> apt-get will remove the xserver*
[15:08] <phoenix__> KukuNut: i wanted to upgrade to this version, thats why i uded that command
[15:09] <phoenix__> KukuNut:  is there a way to fix the problem
[15:09] <Pici> They both may suggest to remove the xserver, you should always be wary when doing upgrading when running the development release.
[15:10] <KukuNut> phoenix__: there is but imo it's not worth it vs new install
[15:12] <KukuNut> Pici: in this case aptitude was safe. apt-get wants to remove them
[15:13] <KukuNut> Pici: phoenix__looks like the xorg-*-abi* are missing
[15:13] <phoenix__> KukuNut: do you want to see my xorg log
[15:13] <KukuNut> phoenix__: no
[15:13] <phoenix__> KukuNut: ok
[15:15] <KukuNut> phoenix__: if do-release-upgrade used apt-get then they were removed so right now you have no X?
[15:15] <phoenix__> KukuNut: this is the error message "This server has a video driver ABI version of 8.0 that this driver does not officially support"
[15:15] <phoenix__> KukuNut: i am able to start  xserver in failsafe mode
[15:16] <KukuNut> phoenix__: bec I just said above they are not ready/,missing
[15:16] <Pici> Both apt-get and aptitude will warn you before they try to remove packages, it doesn't matter which one you use.
[15:17] <phoenix__> KukuNut: sorry i couldnt get you
[15:17] <KukuNut> Pici: i'm not arguing that.  all i'm saying is for this case aptitude didn't say anything about it
[15:17] <phoenix__> Pici: what might have went wrong in the upgrade
[15:17] <Pici> phoenix__: You didn't watch to see that it was suggesting to remove packages that you needed.
[15:18] <phoenix__> Pici: i watched the entire process, i felt that it was safe to proceed to a newer version
[15:19] <phoenix__> Pici: do you mean that the xserver is broken ?
[15:20] <Pici> phoenix__: The package dependencies are currently broken, yes.
[15:20] <phoenix__> Pici: its working fine without the nvidia driver
[15:22] <kangarooo> DrHalan: i just installed that now and all is fine. comp starts
[17:03] <Spirits-Sight> Need help, not able boot past boot splash "Ubuntu ......" screen after update from yesterday, new update does not fix issue, I can boot using failsafe mode
[17:11] <Spirits-Sight> Need help, not able boot past boot splash "Ubuntu ......" screen after update from yesterday, new update does not fix issue, I can boot using failsafe mode
[17:22] <ior3k> so, as a result of the last update, the nvidia binary driver stopped working
[17:22] <ior3k> these have been interesting times :)
[17:22] <Spirits-Sight> Is anyone able to give help I really need help, not able boot past boot splash "Ubuntu ......" screen after update from yesterday, new update does not fix issue, I can boot using failsafe mode
[17:23] <Spirits-Sight> ior3k: sorry did not see your post so how can I get it to work again?
[17:23] <charlie-tca> Spirits-Sight: have you tried booting after removing "quiet splash" to see what is blocking it?
[17:23] <ior3k> the only driver that works for me
[17:23] <ior3k> right now is nv
[17:23] <ior3k> not even nouveau works
[17:23] <ior3k> but that's old too
[17:24] <ior3k> 2009something
[17:25] <ior3k> btw, for anyone interested
[17:25] <ior3k> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=152439
[17:26] <ior3k> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg/43902
[17:26] <Spirits-Sight> charlie-tca: how do I do this quiet splash?
[17:27] <KukuNut> ior3k: i got mine fixed by issuing ignoreABI for X
[17:27] <charlie-tca> hold shift while starting, then edit the menu line using "e". After removing them, use "Ctrl+x" to boot. It is a one time edit
[17:28] <coz_> hey guys... I had noticed on ubuntu forums a call for new sounds for lucid ...apparenlty that didnt get done :)   are new sounds being called out for maverick?
[17:28] <ior3k> KukuNut: oh, interesting
[17:28] <ior3k> KukuNut: thanks
[17:29] <KukuNut> ior3k: in xorg.conf add if not there ServerFlags section
[17:29] <KukuNut> then Option  "ignoreABI" "on"
[17:29] <Spirits-Sight> OK be back
[17:29] <ior3k> KukuNut: thanks again
[17:31] <KukuNut> ior3k: np
[17:59] <Spirits-Sight> OK I got my system to boot pass the boot screen now, I remove both of the drivers that are listed in the hardware driver for the nVivda card and restarted
[18:00] <Spirits-Sight> now I am wondering how to get my gnome-shell to work again as its has not been working for over two weeks
[18:01] <Spirits-Sight> if I select gnome 3 session it does not display the menus or any thing but the icons on the desktop???  thanks for the assistance
[18:46] <Spirits-Sight> now I am wondering how to get my gnome-shell to work again as its has not been working for over two weeks, if I select gnome 3 session it does not display the menus or any thing but the icons on the desktop???  thanks for the assistance
[18:47]  * charlie-tca doesn't know how to fix gnome-shell. He uses Xubuntu
[18:50] <yofel> wth, aptitude safe-upgrade just failed me....
[18:50] <yofel> Current status: 448 updates [+399], 34 new [+1].
[18:50] <yofel> Resolving dependencies...
[18:50] <yofel> Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found.
[18:50] <yofel> Unable to safely resolve dependencies, try running with --full-resolver.
[18:50] <Spirits-Sight> thanks :-) have nice day/night!
[18:50] <Ian_corne> lol yofel
[18:51] <Ian_corne> try synaptic
[18:51] <Ian_corne> I've found it to be better :)
[18:51] <yofel> well, it's thanks to Xorg, I'll see what muon does ^^
[18:52] <Ian_corne> I'm able to update just fine btw
[19:01] <yofel> hm, muon works fine, wants to remove a few x packages obviously...
[19:02] <yofel> and why the hell does it want to install 'sysvutils' (transitional package) o.O
[19:03] <yofel> actually it wants to install 3 transitional packages....
[19:06] <mutter> Hello, I just finished an update and when I login I just get the purple background on my netbook. In the cli I try to run mutter and I get the following: mutter: error while loading shared libraries: libgirepository-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. That file does exist. Any help would be appreciated!!
[19:08] <yofel> mutter: do you have 'libgirepository1.0-0' installed? use 'apt-cache policy libgirepository1.0-0' to find out
[19:08] <mutter> Yeah it is installed -- Installed: 0.9.3-0ubuntu1
[19:09] <yofel> ah, I still have 0.6.14-1ubuntu2 here
[19:09] <mutter> hmm
[19:09] <mutter> should I downgrade ?
[19:12] <yofel> maybe, I'm looking for the file...
[19:13] <mutter> packages.ubuntu.com spits out errors for me
[19:13] <Pici> packages.ubuntu.com is broken for maverick.
[19:14] <mutter> Ahh
[19:16] <yofel> ah, library version changed -> /usr/lib/libgirepository-1.0.so.1
[19:18] <yofel> mutter: mutter (2.31.5-0ubuntu2) was just uploaded to fix this
[19:18] <mutter> ahh cool
[19:18] <mutter> I will keep an look out for it
[19:18] <mutter> Thanks yofel !!!
[19:19] <yofel> you're welcome
[19:19] <scarper> hi, how do I add icons to the left bar on unity?
[19:19] <Spirits-Sight> anyhelp would be good I get this when trying to start gnome-shell: gnome-shell --replace
[19:20] <Spirits-Sight> mutter: error while loading shared libraries: libgirepository-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:20] <Spirits-Sight> christopher@wolf-desktop:~$ Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.
[19:20] <Spirits-Sight> /usr/bin/compiz (core) - Fatal: Software rendering detected.
[19:20] <Spirits-Sight> /usr/bin/compiz (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
[19:20] <Spirits-Sight> /usr/bin/compiz (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[19:20] <kulight> any one else have the system hang at splash screen after today's update?
[19:20] <yofel> Spirits-Sight: wait until mutter 2.31.5-0ubuntu2 is built and published
[19:20] <mutter> Spirits-Sight: I just asked the same question... The mutter package will be updated shortly to correc that.
[19:20] <yofel> should be ready in a few hours (3-4 I think)
[19:20] <Spirits-Sight> cool
[19:21] <yofel> actually i386 a bit faster
[19:21] <Spirits-Sight> OK kulight unactivate your restricked drivers and install the nv driver that fix it for me, you can do this by going into the failsafe mode HTH
[19:22] <yofel> kulight: sounds like X failing to start, considering we're just in the xserver 1.8->1.9 transition that's not surprising, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for what happened exactly
[19:22] <kulight> i am on safeX
[19:23] <yofel> kulight: nvidia?
[19:24] <kulight> installing the nv driver is no solution it's avoiding the problem. i guess ill wait for the xserver transition to done
[19:24] <kulight> yofel, yes
[19:25] <yofel> kulight: see if this helps: (the ignore abi option) http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/08/10/%23ubuntu+1.html#t17:29
[19:28] <murlidhar> not able to download from the official torrent .. it says the tracker is blocked......
[19:29] <kulight> yofel, ill be back
[20:04] <gnomefreak> anyone else unable to join chat rooms on aim using pidgin?
[20:16] <patdk-wk> people join aim chat rooms?
[20:17] <gnomefreak> patdk-wk: my people do
[20:17] <gnomefreak> and im trying to advoid using aim rather use pidgin
[20:23] <coz_> hey guys... I had noticed on ubuntu forums a call for new sounds for lucid ...apparenlty that didnt get done :)   are new sounds being called out for maverick?
[20:25] <gnomefreak> ther eis a sound channel just cant recall the name of it
[20:25] <gnomefreak> they would be best to ask
[20:25] <coz_> gnomefreak,  mm didnt realize there was an ubuntu sound channel
[20:26] <gnomefreak> we have channels for just about everything
[20:26] <gnomefreak> not all are help channels
[20:26] <coz_> gnomefreak,  well I am on the community art team ... i dont ever recall sounds being brought up there but let me check with the guys
[20:27]  * gnomefreak fairly certain there was
[20:28] <gnomefreak> coz_: either way you can take a look at the blue prints to find out
[20:28] <coz_> ok thanks
[20:28] <gnomefreak> coz_: give me a minute ill give you the link
[20:29] <coz_> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick
[20:29] <gnomefreak> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+specs
[20:29] <coz_> ^^ I think
[20:29] <PingJocky> whats the deal with removing the Daapd pluging in rhythmbox?  any ideas?
[20:30] <gnomefreak> PingJocky: could have been replaced by something
[20:30] <PingJocky> damn the bad luck... thanks gnomefreak!
[20:31] <gnomefreak> why bad luck. if it was replaced by another plugin/app it is still there
[20:31] <gnomefreak> PingJocky: for example you are looking for rhythmbox-plugins package
[20:31] <gnomefreak> PingJocky: it is now in there
[20:32] <gnomefreak> PingJocky: apt-cache show rhythmbox-plugins will tell you what plugins are there
[20:37] <coz_> gnomefreak,  ok found  the blog for it and the process thanks for the hints  :)
[20:38] <gnomefreak> cozziemoto: np i was still looking for the blueprint
[20:38] <PingJocky> apt-cache looks like daapd is gone...  upnp may have replaced it
[20:38] <gnomefreak> got side tracked
[20:38] <gnomefreak> - DAAP Music Sharing  << not what you were looking for?
[20:38] <gnomefreak> oh
[20:39] <gnomefreak> wait let me look for it
[20:39] <PingJocky> gnomefreak: are you looking at tangerine?
[20:39] <Pici> mt-daapd?
[20:40] <Pici> oh, in phythmbox
[20:40] <PingJocky> yes
[20:40]  * gnomefreak not seeing anything that says it was removed or replaced
[20:40] <PingJocky> i was using rhythmbox as a client
[20:40] <PingJocky> and amarok sees the server fine
[20:41] <PingJocky> but the plugin is no longer under plugins
[20:41] <gnomefreak> PingJocky: no not tangerine i was looking at rhythmbox-plugins
[20:41] <PingJocky> ok
[20:42] <Pici> Will coherence do what you want?
[20:43] <PingJocky> isnt that upnp... i may need to look in to that
[20:43] <Pici> I admit I don't know much about upnp/daap/whatever
[20:43] <gnomefreak> it is upnp
[20:43] <mutter> gah  so close yet so far........  	 i386 build of mutter 2.31.5-0ubuntu2 in ubuntu maverick RELEASE Missing dependencies: libclutter-1.0-dev (>= 1.2.12-0ubuntu4) Build started 1 hour ago and finished 1 hour ago taking eight minutes
[20:43] <gnomefreak> PingJocky: me niether
[20:44] <gnomefreak> 1hr is a good chance it FTBFS
[20:44] <gnomefreak> Candidate: 2.31.5-0ubuntu1
[20:45] <gnomefreak> for now until it builds thats what you will use. i cant picture much changed in 2 thaqt 1 didnt
[20:46]  * gnomefreak uses the PPA 
[20:52] <gnomefreak> any way of knowing with drivers im running atm
[20:52] <gnomefreak> video
[20:53] <gnomefreak> and it cant be by way of xorg.conf
[20:58] <mutter> gnomefreak: lspci -v ?
[20:58] <mutter> ohh drivers
[20:59] <Ian_corne> lsmod
[20:59] <Ian_corne> ;-)
[21:00] <gnomefreak> ok good it seems vesa is not being used :) yay
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> gnomefreak, re: video driver in use - "lspci -vnvn" find the "VGA compatible controller" section and "Kernel driver in use"
[21:03] <gnomefreak> Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb  == not helpful
[21:03] <Ian_corne> it's one line up
[21:03] <gnomefreak> Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[21:04] <gnomefreak> not helpful as i know im not using nvidia-current anymore
[21:04] <Ian_corne> there you go
[21:04] <Ian_corne> ah
[21:04] <Ian_corne> :p
[21:04] <Ian_corne> lsmod should show you all modules in use
[21:04] <gnomefreak> i had to work around a kernel +nvidia breakage and the work around was to rm xorg.conf
[21:05] <gnomefreak> Ian_corne: it is pretty much the same as above
[21:05] <gnomefreak> i take that back
[21:06] <gnomefreak> nouveau is the winner
[21:06] <gnomefreak> it was unsupported with my card a few days ago so it used vesa but seems it is using nouveau once again
[21:09] <temp15893> So, I just ran update-manager and now when I log in mutter starts but unity and metacity do not. Anyone no how I can get a normal session to start? Also what package short I report this as a bug for?
[21:16] <charlie-tca> temp15893: xserver is being updated to a new version, and may take a few days to get sorted out.
[21:17] <gnomefreak> perfect now that dont even work :(
[21:18] <mutter> temp15893: The mutter package will be updated shortly to correct that.
[21:19] <om26er> mutter is wating for something atm
[21:19] <mutter> Once it can get its dependency resolved.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/2.31.5-0ubuntu2
[21:19] <om26er> libclutter-dev
[21:19] <mutter> Yeah
[21:28] <BUGabundo> and silly old me thinking kmail crash at boot would be fixed with a new release :(
[21:29] <yofel> haha, might be because we still have kmail 4.4.5 - kdepim 4.5 is far too unstable yet to be anywhere near release
[21:29] <gnomefreak> opid doesnt work with text browsers it seems
[21:29]  * gnomefreak cant comment on a bug report without loggin in first
[21:30] <gnomefreak> openid even
[21:30] <BUGabundo> yofel: I can live with it, but its making me MAD
[21:30] <BUGabundo> is a 4 month old bug
[21:30] <BUGabundo> filed and everything
[21:30] <BUGabundo> and not a single comment
[21:31] <yofel> got the bug number?
[21:31] <BUGabundo> not from head
[21:31] <BUGabundo> and don't want to bother to open kmail and see it crash again
[21:31] <yofel> bugs.kde.org ?
[21:31] <yofel> or launchpad?
[21:32] <BUGabundo> kde
[21:32] <BUGabundo> I always upstream kde bugs if not packaging
[21:32]  * ajmitch likes to hear that
[21:32] <BUGabundo> something like: neopkut service isn't started when kmail opens
[21:32] <yofel> nepomuk ...
[21:33] <BUGabundo> that
[21:33] <gnomefreak> oh well i gues si wait for windows box in morning
[21:33] <yofel> I didn't look at the bug yet but I would tend to blame akonadi ^^
[21:34] <BUGabundo> let me get a fresh trace
[21:34] <BUGabundo> gdb --args kmail nofork
[21:35] <BUGabundo> my dgb foo es low tonight :\
[21:38] <gnomefreak> anyone know how to remake xorg.conf file?
[21:38] <gnomefreak> automatic would be great atm
[21:38] <BUGabundo> gdb --args kmail --nofork is beeter
[21:39] <gnomefreak> - 1e + 1t
[21:39] <BUGabundo> and of course while debugging it just works
[21:39] <yofel> gnomefreak: 'X -configure' iirc (without x running)
[21:39] <gnomefreak> yofel: thanks ill try that, maybe it will help until i delete it again
[21:40] <yofel> it will create an auto generated file that you'll have to move to /etc/X11/xorg.conf then
[21:40]  * BUGabundo kills akonadi and tries again
[21:41] <BUGabundo>   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  The Nepomuk search service is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup.
[21:41] <BUGabundo> kmail(12387)/libakonadi Akonadi::AgentManagerPrivate::createDBusInterface: AgentManager failed to get a valid AgentManager DBus interface. Error is: 1 "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner" "Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control': no such name"
[21:41] <BUGabundo> yofel: there you go
[21:42] <gnomefreak> yofel: thanks for the try but it fails as does anything nvidia related lately
[21:42] <mutter> come on mutter you can build... you can do it
[21:42] <BUGabundo> $ pastebinit akonadi-selftest-report-20100810.txt
[21:42] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/476124/
[21:42] <gnomefreak> im sure your looking at at least 1 hour but more than likely more than 1
[21:43] <gnomefreak> ^^^ mutter
[21:43] <mutter> gnomefreak: lol I think a lot of us are right now ;)
[21:44] <BUGabundo> yofel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233811
[21:44] <gnomefreak> if its for normal archives you might want to check back in i would say 4 hours or so
[21:45] <gnomefreak> yofel: fix me
[21:45] <gnomefreak> please :)
[21:45] <BUGabundo> "I'll close the bug for now, since I can't reproduce it here anymore, feel free to reopen if you can reproduce with 4.4.5."
[21:45] <BUGabundo> bah I have 4.5 and its still here
[21:45] <gnomefreak> if i knew bug # i would ask someone comment on it but hell it will have to wait til morning
[21:47] <Ian_corne> how to change your session launching when you've enabled passwordless login? :p
[21:48] <gnomefreak> Ian_corne: re-enable it
[21:48] <yofel> looking through the newly filed bugs makes bug 616023 and bug 615925 sound likely
[21:48] <gnomefreak> AFAIK there isnt a way
[21:49] <pa> hello
[21:49] <gnomefreak> yofel: its one of my bugs
[21:49] <gnomefreak> yofel: its kernel + nvidia drivers
[21:49] <pa> i have a question about meerkat: do you think it would be possible to have xtables already in the ubuntu kernel?
[21:49] <gnomefreak> 2.6.35.14 breaks nvidia drivers
[21:50] <gnomefreak> pa: thats up to kernel devs but if it isnt in already i doubt it will
[21:50] <yofel> actually bug 616023 should be the one about xserver 1.9 and nvidia - undefinded symbol: WindowTable
[21:50] <BUGabundo> yofel: reopen that bug
[21:50] <pa> ok then maybe remove the plymouth that causes only troubles???
[21:50] <pa> :)
[21:52] <yofel> BUGabundo: the kde one? I can't (not enough permissions and I can't reproduce that here either)
[21:52] <yofel> might be some old configuration that akonadi failed to properly convert :/
[21:52] <BUGabundo> no, I just did
[21:52] <BUGabundo> and pinging #kontact
[21:53] <gnomefreak> yofel: bug 613458
[21:53] <gnomefreak> that is the one i was refering to
[21:53] <yofel> ah right
[21:54] <gnomefreak> yofel: can you add a comment for me saying no drivers work? i cant log in using lynx or links2
[21:55] <gnomefreak> vesa,nvidia or the nouveau
[21:55] <gnomefreak> i cant believe one update screwed everything i works to do
[21:55] <gnomefreak> worked
[21:56] <gnomefreak> looking at other bugs just as long i dont have to comment on them
[21:57] <gnomefreak> i had an idea :) see you tomorrow
[22:00] <yofel> looks like I can login to lp fine by using elinks
[22:02] <mutter> So what repo gets published to first ;) ?
[22:06] <dupondje> lol
[22:06] <dupondje> my pc just falls asleep when i'm mounting an nfs partition
[22:07] <dupondje> stat("/sbin/mount.nfs", {st_mode=S_IFREG|S_ISUID|0755, st_size=98704, ...}) = 0
[22:07] <dupondje> clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0x7f443c9a5ab0) = 7818
[22:07] <dupondje> wait4(-1,
[22:07] <dupondje> wtf :s
[22:09] <dupondje> mmmm :) that what happens when nfs server is not running :p
[22:09] <dupondje> great :)
[22:23] <Spewns> empathy only wants to let me add Jabber accounts, even though i have other telepathy packages added. any wisdom?
[22:55] <BUGabundo> libnss3-tools not available ?
[23:01] <yofel> !info libnss3-tools
[23:01] <yofel> hey, apt-cache policy now shows the architecture too ^^
[23:03] <BUGabundo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:03] <BUGabundo>  gir1.0-glib-2.0 : Depends: libgirepository1.0-1 (>= 0.9.3-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[23:07] <Andre_Gondim> May I do upgrade without X crash?
[23:07] <yofel> Andre_Gondim: depends on luck and if you need proprietary drivers
[23:09] <Andre_Gondim> I don't think so
[23:10] <Andre_Gondim> but two days ago I did a upgrade and crashed... I thought may be this problem is solved
[23:11] <Andre_Gondim> is there any workaround for this X crash?
[23:28] <tcopeland> so i recently updated my xserver (along with many other things) on my hp tx2000 tablet running 10.10 dev, and i don't think the current version is compatible with the proprietary drivers (nvidia, version 176, version current) required to make 3d accel work. now, when i select ubuntu from grub, it stays at the load screen with no access to the hard drive (hd access light not blinking). how do i rollback to the last version of xs
[23:28] <tcopeland> erver?
[23:29] <tcopeland> anybody?
[23:38] <Fred8> hello
[23:39] <Fred8> What's the statut of Maverick?
[23:40] <tcopeland> in terms of what?
[23:40] <Daekdroom> Fred8, things are a little messy now because they're updating Xserver
[23:41] <tcopeland> oh thank you because i think my x broke due to proprietary drivers not being up to speed with the current x
[23:41] <Fred8> tcopeland: eg: Alpha, Beta,
[23:41] <tcopeland> alpha
[23:41] <tcopeland> i believe it is alpha 3 at the moment...
[23:41] <Fred8> tcopeland: thank you
[23:42] <Fred8> i must to use maverick on eeepc1001PX because the network interface is not detected during the installation from netboot.tar.gz
[23:42] <Fred8> it's detected with maverick