| gwhip | doing a dist-upgrade today ... trying to remove a lot of xserver stuff. should i let it? | 00:11 |
|---|---|---|
| Daekdroom | gwhip, not at all | 00:12 |
| gwhip | ok | 00:12 |
| gwhip | will wait | 00:13 |
| BUGabundo | gwhip: aptitude safe-upgrade is your friend | 00:15 |
| duffydack | anywhere yet with your mkv? | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | gave up | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | tried to use another laptop via HDMI to tv | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | crashed twice | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | totem showed chopped images, vlc would not leave pause, mplayer froze | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | guess ATI doesn't really like 1080p HDMI | 00:22 |
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| Andre_Gondim | if I did upgrade, when I reboot will crash my X server? | 01:11 |
| BUGabundo | anything can happen | 01:20 |
| duffydack | tried split with 1, 5 or 10mb file? I can have a look then. | 01:21 |
| BUGabundo | you will need a 50MBs file to have just one minute | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | they are 720p files. | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | 50min, 2.1GB | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | in any case.... 1:30 am... bed time. talk to you tomorrow :P | 01:26 |
| duffydack | make it a 10mb file, still the same | 01:26 |
| duffydack | even if its 1 second, its 1 second with audio/video I can work with | 01:27 |
| duffydack | ok.. | 01:27 |
| high-rez | So my +1 system won't startup fully - and I can't see why due to bootsplash (plymouth?). | 02:08 |
| high-rez | What is the proper way to disable it now that ubuntu uses grub2 ? | 02:08 |
| virtuald | press shift to get to the menu, it might have to be the left shift key | 02:12 |
| high-rez | That disables grub's splash - but plymouth is still present. I just booted into recover and told it to continue to go from there. | 02:32 |
| high-rez | Turns out the problem was the new xorg server won't work with the nvidia drivers (proprietary - not nouveau) due to a missing symbol. | 02:33 |
| high-rez | Which If I read right is actually fixed in the newest (256.44) series of drivers. | 02:33 |
| DanaG | Argh, can't install compiz updates without losing compiz-fusion-plugins-extra. | 03:17 |
| DanaG | compiz-fusion-plugins-extra depends upon compiz-core-abiversion-20090619 | 03:17 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-fusion-plugins-extra/+bug/613023 | 03:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 613023 in compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (Ubuntu) "compiz-fusion-plugins-extra upgrade conflicts with compiz" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 03:19 |
| phoenix__ | hello everyone | 03:33 |
| phoenix__ | have some problem upgrading to 10.10 rc3 | 03:34 |
| phoenix__ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/475716/ | 03:34 |
| Volkodav | high-rez: so what's the solution ? get the new drivers or use nouveau vesa etc ? | 03:39 |
| Volkodav | or sit out this mess? | 03:39 |
| Kai_ | When trying to upgrade to maverick, I get this: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. | 03:41 |
| Kai_ | What should I do? | 03:41 |
| Volkodav | upgrade from what ? | 03:43 |
| Kai_ | lucid. | 03:43 |
| Kai_ | i forgot to mention that, sorry :p | 03:43 |
| Volkodav | is your lucid up to date ? | 03:43 |
| Kai_ | yes. | 03:44 |
| Volkodav | and how do you start upgrade ? | 03:44 |
| Kai_ | sudo update-manager -d | 03:45 |
| Volkodav | I suggest you sit out a day or two | 03:45 |
| Kai_ | what would that do? | 03:46 |
| Volkodav | change the packages around | 03:46 |
| high-rez | Volkodav: I've moved to nouveau for the moment. | 03:47 |
| Volkodav | did you reboot high-rez ? | 03:47 |
| high-rez | nope | 03:48 |
| high-rez | i just unloaded the nvidia module (rmmod nvidia) and changed xorg.conf to use nouveau instead of nvidia | 03:49 |
| high-rez | that was it. | 03:49 |
| Volkodav | I can't afford nouveau I am sure if it supports dual head at my res | 03:49 |
| Volkodav | why did you do that though ? | 03:49 |
| high-rez | Cause installing 256.44 from source mucks things up. | 03:49 |
| high-rez | It doesn't work well with ubuntu's alternatives system | 03:49 |
| Volkodav | getting yourselg ready for ther mess ? | 03:49 |
| Volkodav | never did | 03:49 |
| high-rez | Jeah | 03:50 |
| Volkodav | get the nvidia driver back and run the box till they fix it big deal | 03:50 |
| high-rez | I suppose I coudl just manually replace the files, but I'm a bit lazy for all that. | 03:50 |
| Volkodav | modprobe nvidia (back!) lol | 03:50 |
| Volkodav | I am even lazier - I removed the xorg and I know nothing happens till reboot - whick may happen by New year ! lolz | 03:51 |
| high-rez | or until another abi change in udev mucks everything up (i can't believe how much udev changes... constantly) | 03:53 |
| Volkodav | high-rez: want to reboot and see what's up ? | 04:03 |
| scarper | hi | 04:23 |
| scarper | anyone has tried to install alpha 3 netbook edition? | 04:23 |
| Kai_ | nope. | 04:24 |
| scarper | hmm... /me wonders if it is better to try an upgrade than to try a fresh install with the iso | 04:37 |
| scarper | which seems to not be working at the time | 04:37 |
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| Andre_Gondim | any workaround to problem in xorg? | 04:54 |
| === andregondim_ is now known as Andre_Gondim | ||
| philip___ | I cannot adjust the brightness (through Fn keys or brightness applet) although pressing Fn keys does show the notification slider. Any ideas? | 05:29 |
| mxe5 | Is there a netbook release out for the newest 10.10 yet ? ? | 05:34 |
| scarper | ok, found a workaround | 05:59 |
| DanaG | argh, well, fglrx is dead. | 06:38 |
| DanaG | And g-p-m crashes with Radeon. | 06:38 |
| DanaG | http://pastebin.com/ezGfjSJZ | 06:41 |
| DanaG | ah, time to pin LP-PPA-xorg-edgers at really high priority. | 06:47 |
| DanaG | AAaaah, back to fglrx, and quiet. | 06:55 |
| DanaG | Less fan noise. | 06:56 |
| JayminP | hey guys can anyone help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9700949#post9700949 | 07:19 |
| JayminP | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549469 | 07:19 |
| JayminP | ? | 07:21 |
| alakhia | one use "kde news" plasmoid? I get this weird scrolling bug | 08:33 |
| alakhia | any time i move my mouse over it (without giving focus), the window scrolls | 08:34 |
| alakhia | a bit distracting initially and annoying after a while | 08:36 |
| knittl | 794 mb memory usage for indicator-applet | 08:37 |
| knittl | 794.8 | 08:38 |
| alakhia | that's a bit much | 08:42 |
| knittl | 795.2 | 08:43 |
| alakhia | must be leaking memory | 08:43 |
| knittl | yip | 08:43 |
| knittl | every time rhythmbox advances a song it goes +0.75 | 08:43 |
| alakhia | might be leaking the song meta data | 08:44 |
| knittl | i think it's related to notifications | 08:44 |
| knittl | with pidgin notifs it goes up by ~0.1 mb (maybe a little less) | 08:45 |
| Ian_corne | danag, you got fglrx to work?! | 08:45 |
| knittl | 808.3 | 08:46 |
| alakhia | restarting the indicator applet might bring the total back down | 08:47 |
| knittl | alakhia: yeah. but i want to see how high it goes :D | 08:47 |
| alakhia | sure ... but swapping won't be fun unless you like seeing redraws in slow motion | 08:48 |
| knittl | memory is currently 88% (+5% cache) | 08:49 |
| knittl | 273 mb swapped | 08:49 |
| knittl | firefox also taking ~1 gb at the moment | 08:49 |
| knittl | but that's not unusual for firefox xD | 08:50 |
| knittl | 809.8 | 08:50 |
| knittl | 815.8 | 08:54 |
| Ian_corne | It'll just go up till your oom killer kicks in knittl | 08:56 |
| knittl | Ian_corne: it's fun :D (816.5) | 08:58 |
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| tasslehoff | !find libgmp.so.10 | 09:40 |
| ubottu | Package/file libgmp.so.10 does not exist in maverick | 09:40 |
| wzssyqa | I copied fonts from XP, and run sudo fc-cache -fv,then firefox can not display most web page correctly | 10:34 |
| TheInfinity | wzssyqa: you should use msttcorefonts instead of just copying around ... | 10:37 |
| wzssyqa | TheInfinity: before, i can do this . Is there something change in 10.10? | 10:37 |
| TheInfinity | don't think so, but i did not try out | 10:38 |
| wzssyqa | TheInfinity: haha, i know now, i have not make it readable for user | 10:58 |
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| rye | nvidia driver in maverick - undefined symbol WindowTable | 11:24 |
| rye | are there any reports about ath5k not working in 2.6.35-14 ? | 11:41 |
| kangarooo | hello yester day got crash on updates https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/615577 now cant start computer | 12:15 |
| ubottu | 'Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized\nResponse headers:\n---\ncontent-length: 21\ncontent-type: text/plain\ndate: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:15:07 GMT\nserver: zope.server.http (HTTP)\nstatus: 401\nvary: Accept-Encoding\nvia: 1.1 wildcard.edge.launchpad.net\nx-powered-by: Zope (www.zope.org), Python (www.python.org)\n---\nResponse body:\n---\nBug 615577 is private\n---\n (https://launchpad.net/bugs/615577)' | 12:15 |
| kangarooo | comp doesnt start on any kernel. now im in recovery mode and pressed start | 12:16 |
| yofel | bug 615577 | 12:22 |
| ubottu | Bug 615577 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/615577 is private | 12:22 |
| DrHalan | xserver upgrade is about to go dowwn | 12:25 |
| kangarooo | cant start comp adter upgrade 14h ago | 12:39 |
| kangarooo | at least not in normal mode any kernel not working. only recovery mode works. | 12:41 |
| DrHalan | kangarooo: are you sure you still have all the xorg packages? | 12:43 |
| DrHalan | or did you do a dist-upgrade in the last 24 hours | 12:43 |
| kangarooo | DrHalan: i did 14 h ago sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 12:44 |
| kangarooo | while upgrading got crsh bug 615577 witch i reported then restarted and comp loads Xubuntu logo then stops thinking and shows nothing new. ctrl+alt+del works to restart. now im in recovery mode | 12:45 |
| ubottu | Bug 615577 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/615577 is private | 12:45 |
| kangarooo | how to check if i have xorg packages? | 12:45 |
| kangarooo | i installed aptitude that will help easyr to search yes? | 12:45 |
| kangarooo | DrHalan: i did update and distupgrade. | 12:48 |
| kangarooo | ill try doinn that again | 12:49 |
| kangarooo | what means on running update terminal shows. its recomended to run defoma-app purge libwmf0.2-7 | 12:53 |
| kangarooo | s/update/d-upgrade | 12:54 |
| DrHalan | kangarooo: you shouldn't do that today | 13:01 |
| DrHalan | you maybe don't have xserver-xorg installed anymore | 13:02 |
| Pici | DrHalan: Is there a known issue? | 13:02 |
| kangarooo | how to check that in terminal? i got tty1 from recovery mode | 13:02 |
| DrHalan | the xserver is upgraded to 1.9 | 13:03 |
| DrHalan | i takes some time until the dependencies are fine again | 13:03 |
| Pici | Oh, so normal dependency hell? | 13:03 |
| DrHalan | during that time you should only do upgrade because it will hold the broken packages back | 13:03 |
| DrHalan | yap | 13:03 |
| northline_ | /dev/audio0 missing in 10.10 pls help | 13:03 |
| DrHalan | if i'd do dist-upgrade te following packages would be removed on my machine: xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-chips | 13:04 |
| DrHalan | kangarooo: do apt-get update / apt-get dist-upgrade and look if it wants to remove some packages | 13:06 |
| kangarooo | no now it doesnt want. i did that 10min ago and it installed 15packages and also gave info its recomended to run defoma-app purge libwmf0.2-7 | 13:07 |
| kangarooo | now i did aptitude search xserver-xorg-video-all and got output p xserver-xorg-video-all .. what means p ? installed or not? | 13:08 |
| kangarooo | DrHalan: all 3 ur menationed packages shows p and not i (installed) so yeah they somhow removed themselfes | 13:09 |
| kangarooo | now checked dpkg-query --show | less and installed xserver- common xorg xorg-core video-intel video-openchrome video-radeon ( but i dont have radeon why then its intalled? i have nvidia) thats all from xserver | 13:13 |
| northline_ | Ive noticed the total absense of /dev/audio0 and /dev/audio1 on my machine at 10.10 (was there in 10.04) | 13:14 |
| northline_ | but can see the cards in 'sound recorder' | 13:15 |
| DrHalan | kangarooo: the easiest thing for you is to justwait until the dependencies are fixed | 13:24 |
| DrHalan | and then you do apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all | 13:24 |
| phoenix__ | hello everyone | 13:32 |
| phoenix__ | i just now upgraded to 10.10 rc3 | 13:32 |
| DrHalan | rc3? | 13:32 |
| DrHalan | you mean alpha | 13:32 |
| phoenix__ | i have trouble with the nvidia driver | 13:32 |
| DrHalan | phoenix__: whats the problem? works fine here | 13:33 |
| phoenix__ | the one with kde 4.5 | 13:33 |
| phoenix__ | after the upgrade i am not able to start the xserver | 13:33 |
| DrHalan | how did you upgrade | 13:33 |
| phoenix__ | do-release-upgrade -d | 13:34 |
| DrHalan | uh | 13:34 |
| DrHalan | thenyour xserver is broken | 13:34 |
| DrHalan | because maverick is moveing form 1.8 to 1.9 at the moment | 13:34 |
| DrHalan | best you wait for a day and then do a dist-upgrade | 13:34 |
| phoenix__ | can i reinstall xserver | 13:35 |
| DrHalan | mh i don't konw | 13:35 |
| DrHalan | try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all | 13:36 |
| phoenix__ | can i try reconfiguring xserver | 13:36 |
| DrHalan | phoenix__: the packages are just broken. in general before upgradeing you should come into this channel and ask if its a good moment to upgrade | 13:38 |
| DrHalan | right now you just have to wait | 13:38 |
| phoenix__ | ok. is there a way to increse the display resolution in failsafe mode | 13:39 |
| phoenix__ | DrHalan: ok. is there a way to increse the display resolution in failsafe mode | 13:42 |
| DrHalan | i have no idea | 13:43 |
| phoenix__ | ok.thank you | 13:44 |
| phoenix__ | bye | 13:44 |
| Volkodav | So what do we do with nvidia now ? update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf because link group gl_conf is broken. | 13:57 |
| Ian_corne | abandon ship! | 13:58 |
| DrHalan | mh i don't even know if nvidida-current works with xorg 1.9 | 14:00 |
| ubuntu51 | the final release of new ubuntu | 14:50 |
| ubuntu51 | i mean 10.10 | 14:50 |
| ubuntu51 | how stable is 10.10 | 14:51 |
| phoenix__ | DrHalan: when will the upgrade to 10.10 available | 14:53 |
| rye | phoenix__, the target date for maverick meerkat / 10.10 is 10.10.2010 | 14:54 |
| rye | phoenix__, i believe have missed the point of the question | 14:55 |
| phoenix__ | the one with kde 4.5 rc3 | 14:56 |
| rye | DrHalan, it looks like it does not - undefined symbol Xorg.1.log:[ 25.017] dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so: undefined symbol: WindowTable | 14:56 |
| KukuNut | phoenix__: it's now 4.5 | 14:59 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: what is the current version of kubuntu | 15:01 |
| KukuNut | phoenix__: stable 10.04 development 10.10 | 15:01 |
| phoenix__ | can u tell the dev sub version | 15:02 |
| KukuNut | phoenix__: KDE is now 4.5 final in both version | 15:02 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: i upgraded to 10.10 | 15:03 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: i have some problem with xserver.dr halan said my xserver is broken and said i should have waited till the next upgrade | 15:04 |
| KukuNut | phoenix__: if you used aptitude you should have been ok | 15:06 |
| phoenix__ | i used do-release-upgrade -d command | 15:06 |
| KukuNut | aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade | 15:07 |
| KukuNut | apt-get will remove the xserver* | 15:08 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: i wanted to upgrade to this version, thats why i uded that command | 15:08 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: is there a way to fix the problem | 15:09 |
| Pici | They both may suggest to remove the xserver, you should always be wary when doing upgrading when running the development release. | 15:09 |
| KukuNut | phoenix__: there is but imo it's not worth it vs new install | 15:10 |
| KukuNut | Pici: in this case aptitude was safe. apt-get wants to remove them | 15:12 |
| KukuNut | Pici: phoenix__looks like the xorg-*-abi* are missing | 15:13 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: do you want to see my xorg log | 15:13 |
| KukuNut | phoenix__: no | 15:13 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: ok | 15:13 |
| KukuNut | phoenix__: if do-release-upgrade used apt-get then they were removed so right now you have no X? | 15:15 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: this is the error message "This server has a video driver ABI version of 8.0 that this driver does not officially support" | 15:15 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: i am able to start xserver in failsafe mode | 15:15 |
| KukuNut | phoenix__: bec I just said above they are not ready/,missing | 15:16 |
| Pici | Both apt-get and aptitude will warn you before they try to remove packages, it doesn't matter which one you use. | 15:16 |
| phoenix__ | KukuNut: sorry i couldnt get you | 15:17 |
| KukuNut | Pici: i'm not arguing that. all i'm saying is for this case aptitude didn't say anything about it | 15:17 |
| phoenix__ | Pici: what might have went wrong in the upgrade | 15:17 |
| Pici | phoenix__: You didn't watch to see that it was suggesting to remove packages that you needed. | 15:17 |
| phoenix__ | Pici: i watched the entire process, i felt that it was safe to proceed to a newer version | 15:18 |
| phoenix__ | Pici: do you mean that the xserver is broken ? | 15:19 |
| Pici | phoenix__: The package dependencies are currently broken, yes. | 15:20 |
| phoenix__ | Pici: its working fine without the nvidia driver | 15:20 |
| kangarooo | DrHalan: i just installed that now and all is fine. comp starts | 15:22 |
| Spirits-Sight | Need help, not able boot past boot splash "Ubuntu ......" screen after update from yesterday, new update does not fix issue, I can boot using failsafe mode | 17:03 |
| Spirits-Sight | Need help, not able boot past boot splash "Ubuntu ......" screen after update from yesterday, new update does not fix issue, I can boot using failsafe mode | 17:11 |
| ior3k | so, as a result of the last update, the nvidia binary driver stopped working | 17:22 |
| ior3k | these have been interesting times :) | 17:22 |
| Spirits-Sight | Is anyone able to give help I really need help, not able boot past boot splash "Ubuntu ......" screen after update from yesterday, new update does not fix issue, I can boot using failsafe mode | 17:22 |
| Spirits-Sight | ior3k: sorry did not see your post so how can I get it to work again? | 17:23 |
| charlie-tca | Spirits-Sight: have you tried booting after removing "quiet splash" to see what is blocking it? | 17:23 |
| ior3k | the only driver that works for me | 17:23 |
| ior3k | right now is nv | 17:23 |
| ior3k | not even nouveau works | 17:23 |
| ior3k | but that's old too | 17:23 |
| ior3k | 2009something | 17:24 |
| ior3k | btw, for anyone interested | 17:25 |
| ior3k | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=152439 | 17:25 |
| ior3k | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg/43902 | 17:26 |
| Spirits-Sight | charlie-tca: how do I do this quiet splash? | 17:26 |
| KukuNut | ior3k: i got mine fixed by issuing ignoreABI for X | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | hold shift while starting, then edit the menu line using "e". After removing them, use "Ctrl+x" to boot. It is a one time edit | 17:27 |
| coz_ | hey guys... I had noticed on ubuntu forums a call for new sounds for lucid ...apparenlty that didnt get done :) are new sounds being called out for maverick? | 17:28 |
| ior3k | KukuNut: oh, interesting | 17:28 |
| ior3k | KukuNut: thanks | 17:28 |
| KukuNut | ior3k: in xorg.conf add if not there ServerFlags section | 17:29 |
| KukuNut | then Option "ignoreABI" "on" | 17:29 |
| Spirits-Sight | OK be back | 17:29 |
| ior3k | KukuNut: thanks again | 17:29 |
| KukuNut | ior3k: np | 17:31 |
| Spirits-Sight | OK I got my system to boot pass the boot screen now, I remove both of the drivers that are listed in the hardware driver for the nVivda card and restarted | 17:59 |
| Spirits-Sight | now I am wondering how to get my gnome-shell to work again as its has not been working for over two weeks | 18:00 |
| Spirits-Sight | if I select gnome 3 session it does not display the menus or any thing but the icons on the desktop??? thanks for the assistance | 18:01 |
| Spirits-Sight | now I am wondering how to get my gnome-shell to work again as its has not been working for over two weeks, if I select gnome 3 session it does not display the menus or any thing but the icons on the desktop??? thanks for the assistance | 18:46 |
| * charlie-tca doesn't know how to fix gnome-shell. He uses Xubuntu | 18:47 | |
| yofel | wth, aptitude safe-upgrade just failed me.... | 18:50 |
| yofel | Current status: 448 updates [+399], 34 new [+1]. | 18:50 |
| yofel | Resolving dependencies... | 18:50 |
| yofel | Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found. | 18:50 |
| yofel | Unable to safely resolve dependencies, try running with --full-resolver. | 18:50 |
| Spirits-Sight | thanks :-) have nice day/night! | 18:50 |
| Ian_corne | lol yofel | 18:50 |
| Ian_corne | try synaptic | 18:51 |
| Ian_corne | I've found it to be better :) | 18:51 |
| yofel | well, it's thanks to Xorg, I'll see what muon does ^^ | 18:51 |
| Ian_corne | I'm able to update just fine btw | 18:52 |
| yofel | hm, muon works fine, wants to remove a few x packages obviously... | 19:01 |
| yofel | and why the hell does it want to install 'sysvutils' (transitional package) o.O | 19:02 |
| yofel | actually it wants to install 3 transitional packages.... | 19:03 |
| mutter | Hello, I just finished an update and when I login I just get the purple background on my netbook. In the cli I try to run mutter and I get the following: mutter: error while loading shared libraries: libgirepository-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. That file does exist. Any help would be appreciated!! | 19:06 |
| yofel | mutter: do you have 'libgirepository1.0-0' installed? use 'apt-cache policy libgirepository1.0-0' to find out | 19:08 |
| mutter | Yeah it is installed -- Installed: 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 | 19:08 |
| yofel | ah, I still have 0.6.14-1ubuntu2 here | 19:09 |
| mutter | hmm | 19:09 |
| mutter | should I downgrade ? | 19:09 |
| yofel | maybe, I'm looking for the file... | 19:12 |
| mutter | packages.ubuntu.com spits out errors for me | 19:13 |
| Pici | packages.ubuntu.com is broken for maverick. | 19:13 |
| mutter | Ahh | 19:14 |
| yofel | ah, library version changed -> /usr/lib/libgirepository-1.0.so.1 | 19:16 |
| yofel | mutter: mutter (2.31.5-0ubuntu2) was just uploaded to fix this | 19:18 |
| mutter | ahh cool | 19:18 |
| mutter | I will keep an look out for it | 19:18 |
| mutter | Thanks yofel !!! | 19:18 |
| yofel | you're welcome | 19:19 |
| scarper | hi, how do I add icons to the left bar on unity? | 19:19 |
| Spirits-Sight | anyhelp would be good I get this when trying to start gnome-shell: gnome-shell --replace | 19:19 |
| Spirits-Sight | mutter: error while loading shared libraries: libgirepository-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 19:20 |
| Spirits-Sight | christopher@wolf-desktop:~$ Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running. | 19:20 |
| Spirits-Sight | /usr/bin/compiz (core) - Fatal: Software rendering detected. | 19:20 |
| Spirits-Sight | /usr/bin/compiz (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0 | 19:20 |
| Spirits-Sight | /usr/bin/compiz (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0 | 19:20 |
| kulight | any one else have the system hang at splash screen after today's update? | 19:20 |
| yofel | Spirits-Sight: wait until mutter 2.31.5-0ubuntu2 is built and published | 19:20 |
| mutter | Spirits-Sight: I just asked the same question... The mutter package will be updated shortly to correc that. | 19:20 |
| yofel | should be ready in a few hours (3-4 I think) | 19:20 |
| Spirits-Sight | cool | 19:20 |
| yofel | actually i386 a bit faster | 19:21 |
| Spirits-Sight | OK kulight unactivate your restricked drivers and install the nv driver that fix it for me, you can do this by going into the failsafe mode HTH | 19:21 |
| yofel | kulight: sounds like X failing to start, considering we're just in the xserver 1.8->1.9 transition that's not surprising, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for what happened exactly | 19:22 |
| kulight | i am on safeX | 19:22 |
| yofel | kulight: nvidia? | 19:23 |
| kulight | installing the nv driver is no solution it's avoiding the problem. i guess ill wait for the xserver transition to done | 19:24 |
| kulight | yofel, yes | 19:24 |
| yofel | kulight: see if this helps: (the ignore abi option) http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/08/10/%23ubuntu+1.html#t17:29 | 19:25 |
| murlidhar | not able to download from the official torrent .. it says the tracker is blocked...... | 19:28 |
| kulight | yofel, ill be back | 19:29 |
| gnomefreak | anyone else unable to join chat rooms on aim using pidgin? | 20:04 |
| patdk-wk | people join aim chat rooms? | 20:16 |
| gnomefreak | patdk-wk: my people do | 20:17 |
| gnomefreak | and im trying to advoid using aim rather use pidgin | 20:17 |
| coz_ | hey guys... I had noticed on ubuntu forums a call for new sounds for lucid ...apparenlty that didnt get done :) are new sounds being called out for maverick? | 20:23 |
| gnomefreak | ther eis a sound channel just cant recall the name of it | 20:25 |
| gnomefreak | they would be best to ask | 20:25 |
| coz_ | gnomefreak, mm didnt realize there was an ubuntu sound channel | 20:25 |
| gnomefreak | we have channels for just about everything | 20:26 |
| gnomefreak | not all are help channels | 20:26 |
| coz_ | gnomefreak, well I am on the community art team ... i dont ever recall sounds being brought up there but let me check with the guys | 20:26 |
| * gnomefreak fairly certain there was | 20:27 | |
| gnomefreak | coz_: either way you can take a look at the blue prints to find out | 20:28 |
| coz_ | ok thanks | 20:28 |
| gnomefreak | coz_: give me a minute ill give you the link | 20:28 |
| coz_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick | 20:29 |
| gnomefreak | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+specs | 20:29 |
| coz_ | ^^ I think | 20:29 |
| PingJocky | whats the deal with removing the Daapd pluging in rhythmbox? any ideas? | 20:29 |
| gnomefreak | PingJocky: could have been replaced by something | 20:30 |
| PingJocky | damn the bad luck... thanks gnomefreak! | 20:30 |
| gnomefreak | why bad luck. if it was replaced by another plugin/app it is still there | 20:31 |
| gnomefreak | PingJocky: for example you are looking for rhythmbox-plugins package | 20:31 |
| gnomefreak | PingJocky: it is now in there | 20:31 |
| gnomefreak | PingJocky: apt-cache show rhythmbox-plugins will tell you what plugins are there | 20:32 |
| coz_ | gnomefreak, ok found the blog for it and the process thanks for the hints :) | 20:37 |
| gnomefreak | cozziemoto: np i was still looking for the blueprint | 20:38 |
| PingJocky | apt-cache looks like daapd is gone... upnp may have replaced it | 20:38 |
| gnomefreak | got side tracked | 20:38 |
| gnomefreak | - DAAP Music Sharing << not what you were looking for? | 20:38 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 20:38 |
| gnomefreak | wait let me look for it | 20:39 |
| PingJocky | gnomefreak: are you looking at tangerine? | 20:39 |
| Pici | mt-daapd? | 20:39 |
| Pici | oh, in phythmbox | 20:40 |
| PingJocky | yes | 20:40 |
| * gnomefreak not seeing anything that says it was removed or replaced | 20:40 | |
| PingJocky | i was using rhythmbox as a client | 20:40 |
| PingJocky | and amarok sees the server fine | 20:40 |
| PingJocky | but the plugin is no longer under plugins | 20:41 |
| gnomefreak | PingJocky: no not tangerine i was looking at rhythmbox-plugins | 20:41 |
| PingJocky | ok | 20:41 |
| Pici | Will coherence do what you want? | 20:42 |
| PingJocky | isnt that upnp... i may need to look in to that | 20:43 |
| Pici | I admit I don't know much about upnp/daap/whatever | 20:43 |
| gnomefreak | it is upnp | 20:43 |
| mutter | gah so close yet so far........ i386 build of mutter 2.31.5-0ubuntu2 in ubuntu maverick RELEASE Missing dependencies: libclutter-1.0-dev (>= 1.2.12-0ubuntu4) Build started 1 hour ago and finished 1 hour ago taking eight minutes | 20:43 |
| gnomefreak | PingJocky: me niether | 20:43 |
| gnomefreak | 1hr is a good chance it FTBFS | 20:44 |
| gnomefreak | Candidate: 2.31.5-0ubuntu1 | 20:44 |
| gnomefreak | for now until it builds thats what you will use. i cant picture much changed in 2 thaqt 1 didnt | 20:45 |
| * gnomefreak uses the PPA | 20:46 | |
| gnomefreak | any way of knowing with drivers im running atm | 20:52 |
| gnomefreak | video | 20:52 |
| gnomefreak | and it cant be by way of xorg.conf | 20:53 |
| mutter | gnomefreak: lspci -v ? | 20:58 |
| mutter | ohh drivers | 20:58 |
| Ian_corne | lsmod | 20:59 |
| Ian_corne | ;-) | 20:59 |
| gnomefreak | ok good it seems vesa is not being used :) yay | 21:00 |
| ZykoticK9 | gnomefreak, re: video driver in use - "lspci -vnvn" find the "VGA compatible controller" section and "Kernel driver in use" | 21:01 |
| gnomefreak | Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb == not helpful | 21:03 |
| Ian_corne | it's one line up | 21:03 |
| gnomefreak | Kernel driver in use: nvidia | 21:03 |
| gnomefreak | not helpful as i know im not using nvidia-current anymore | 21:04 |
| Ian_corne | there you go | 21:04 |
| Ian_corne | ah | 21:04 |
| Ian_corne | :p | 21:04 |
| Ian_corne | lsmod should show you all modules in use | 21:04 |
| gnomefreak | i had to work around a kernel +nvidia breakage and the work around was to rm xorg.conf | 21:04 |
| gnomefreak | Ian_corne: it is pretty much the same as above | 21:05 |
| gnomefreak | i take that back | 21:05 |
| gnomefreak | nouveau is the winner | 21:06 |
| gnomefreak | it was unsupported with my card a few days ago so it used vesa but seems it is using nouveau once again | 21:06 |
| temp15893 | So, I just ran update-manager and now when I log in mutter starts but unity and metacity do not. Anyone no how I can get a normal session to start? Also what package short I report this as a bug for? | 21:09 |
| charlie-tca | temp15893: xserver is being updated to a new version, and may take a few days to get sorted out. | 21:16 |
| gnomefreak | perfect now that dont even work :( | 21:17 |
| mutter | temp15893: The mutter package will be updated shortly to correct that. | 21:18 |
| om26er | mutter is wating for something atm | 21:19 |
| mutter | Once it can get its dependency resolved. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/2.31.5-0ubuntu2 | 21:19 |
| om26er | libclutter-dev | 21:19 |
| mutter | Yeah | 21:19 |
| BUGabundo | and silly old me thinking kmail crash at boot would be fixed with a new release :( | 21:28 |
| yofel | haha, might be because we still have kmail 4.4.5 - kdepim 4.5 is far too unstable yet to be anywhere near release | 21:29 |
| gnomefreak | opid doesnt work with text browsers it seems | 21:29 |
| * gnomefreak cant comment on a bug report without loggin in first | 21:29 | |
| gnomefreak | openid even | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: I can live with it, but its making me MAD | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | is a 4 month old bug | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | filed and everything | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | and not a single comment | 21:30 |
| yofel | got the bug number? | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | not from head | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | and don't want to bother to open kmail and see it crash again | 21:31 |
| yofel | bugs.kde.org ? | 21:31 |
| yofel | or launchpad? | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | kde | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | I always upstream kde bugs if not packaging | 21:32 |
| * ajmitch likes to hear that | 21:32 | |
| BUGabundo | something like: neopkut service isn't started when kmail opens | 21:32 |
| yofel | nepomuk ... | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | that | 21:33 |
| gnomefreak | oh well i gues si wait for windows box in morning | 21:33 |
| yofel | I didn't look at the bug yet but I would tend to blame akonadi ^^ | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | let me get a fresh trace | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | gdb --args kmail nofork | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | my dgb foo es low tonight :\ | 21:35 |
| gnomefreak | anyone know how to remake xorg.conf file? | 21:38 |
| gnomefreak | automatic would be great atm | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | gdb --args kmail --nofork is beeter | 21:38 |
| gnomefreak | - 1e + 1t | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | and of course while debugging it just works | 21:39 |
| yofel | gnomefreak: 'X -configure' iirc (without x running) | 21:39 |
| gnomefreak | yofel: thanks ill try that, maybe it will help until i delete it again | 21:39 |
| yofel | it will create an auto generated file that you'll have to move to /etc/X11/xorg.conf then | 21:40 |
| * BUGabundo kills akonadi and tries again | 21:40 | |
| BUGabundo | p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } The Nepomuk search service is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup. | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | kmail(12387)/libakonadi Akonadi::AgentManagerPrivate::createDBusInterface: AgentManager failed to get a valid AgentManager DBus interface. Error is: 1 "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner" "Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control': no such name" | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: there you go | 21:41 |
| gnomefreak | yofel: thanks for the try but it fails as does anything nvidia related lately | 21:42 |
| mutter | come on mutter you can build... you can do it | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | $ pastebinit akonadi-selftest-report-20100810.txt | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/476124/ | 21:42 |
| gnomefreak | im sure your looking at at least 1 hour but more than likely more than 1 | 21:42 |
| gnomefreak | ^^^ mutter | 21:43 |
| mutter | gnomefreak: lol I think a lot of us are right now ;) | 21:43 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233811 | 21:44 |
| gnomefreak | if its for normal archives you might want to check back in i would say 4 hours or so | 21:44 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 233811 in general "nepomuk search process not registered at d-bus" [Normal,Resolved: worksforme] | 21:44 |
| gnomefreak | yofel: fix me | 21:45 |
| gnomefreak | please :) | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | "I'll close the bug for now, since I can't reproduce it here anymore, feel free to reopen if you can reproduce with 4.4.5." | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | bah I have 4.5 and its still here | 21:45 |
| gnomefreak | if i knew bug # i would ask someone comment on it but hell it will have to wait til morning | 21:45 |
| Ian_corne | how to change your session launching when you've enabled passwordless login? :p | 21:47 |
| gnomefreak | Ian_corne: re-enable it | 21:48 |
| yofel | looking through the newly filed bugs makes bug 616023 and bug 615925 sound likely | 21:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 616023 in xorg (Ubuntu) "nVidia card : X won't start since 1.9 update, no screens found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616023 | 21:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 615925 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "x wont start after latest update nvidia altarnate error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615925 | 21:48 |
| gnomefreak | AFAIK there isnt a way | 21:48 |
| pa | hello | 21:49 |
| gnomefreak | yofel: its one of my bugs | 21:49 |
| gnomefreak | yofel: its kernel + nvidia drivers | 21:49 |
| pa | i have a question about meerkat: do you think it would be possible to have xtables already in the ubuntu kernel? | 21:49 |
| gnomefreak | 2.6.35.14 breaks nvidia drivers | 21:49 |
| gnomefreak | pa: thats up to kernel devs but if it isnt in already i doubt it will | 21:50 |
| yofel | actually bug 616023 should be the one about xserver 1.9 and nvidia - undefinded symbol: WindowTable | 21:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 616023 in xorg (Ubuntu) "nVidia card : X won't start since 1.9 update, no screens found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616023 | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: reopen that bug | 21:50 |
| pa | ok then maybe remove the plymouth that causes only troubles??? | 21:50 |
| pa | :) | 21:50 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: the kde one? I can't (not enough permissions and I can't reproduce that here either) | 21:52 |
| yofel | might be some old configuration that akonadi failed to properly convert :/ | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | no, I just did | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | and pinging #kontact | 21:52 |
| gnomefreak | yofel: bug 613458 | 21:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 613458 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "After upgrading to latest kernel i get a black screen and cant do anything except ctrl+alt+delete to reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613458 | 21:53 |
| gnomefreak | that is the one i was refering to | 21:53 |
| yofel | ah right | 21:53 |
| gnomefreak | yofel: can you add a comment for me saying no drivers work? i cant log in using lynx or links2 | 21:54 |
| gnomefreak | vesa,nvidia or the nouveau | 21:55 |
| gnomefreak | i cant believe one update screwed everything i works to do | 21:55 |
| gnomefreak | worked | 21:55 |
| gnomefreak | looking at other bugs just as long i dont have to comment on them | 21:56 |
| gnomefreak | i had an idea :) see you tomorrow | 21:57 |
| yofel | looks like I can login to lp fine by using elinks | 22:00 |
| mutter | So what repo gets published to first ;) ? | 22:02 |
| dupondje | lol | 22:06 |
| dupondje | my pc just falls asleep when i'm mounting an nfs partition | 22:06 |
| dupondje | stat("/sbin/mount.nfs", {st_mode=S_IFREG|S_ISUID|0755, st_size=98704, ...}) = 0 | 22:07 |
| dupondje | clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0x7f443c9a5ab0) = 7818 | 22:07 |
| dupondje | wait4(-1, | 22:07 |
| dupondje | wtf :s | 22:07 |
| dupondje | mmmm :) that what happens when nfs server is not running :p | 22:09 |
| dupondje | great :) | 22:09 |
| Spewns | empathy only wants to let me add Jabber accounts, even though i have other telepathy packages added. any wisdom? | 22:23 |
| BUGabundo | libnss3-tools not available ? | 22:55 |
| yofel | !info libnss3-tools | 23:01 |
| ubottu | libnss3-tools (source: nss): Network Security Service tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.12.6-0ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 293 kB, installed size 764 kB | 23:01 |
| yofel | hey, apt-cache policy now shows the architecture too ^^ | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | gir1.0-glib-2.0 : Depends: libgirepository1.0-1 (>= 0.9.3-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed | 23:03 |
| Andre_Gondim | May I do upgrade without X crash? | 23:07 |
| yofel | Andre_Gondim: depends on luck and if you need proprietary drivers | 23:07 |
| Andre_Gondim | I don't think so | 23:09 |
| Andre_Gondim | but two days ago I did a upgrade and crashed... I thought may be this problem is solved | 23:10 |
| Andre_Gondim | is there any workaround for this X crash? | 23:11 |
| tcopeland | so i recently updated my xserver (along with many other things) on my hp tx2000 tablet running 10.10 dev, and i don't think the current version is compatible with the proprietary drivers (nvidia, version 176, version current) required to make 3d accel work. now, when i select ubuntu from grub, it stays at the load screen with no access to the hard drive (hd access light not blinking). how do i rollback to the last version of xs | 23:28 |
| tcopeland | erver? | 23:28 |
| tcopeland | anybody? | 23:29 |
| Fred8 | hello | 23:38 |
| Fred8 | What's the statut of Maverick? | 23:39 |
| tcopeland | in terms of what? | 23:40 |
| Daekdroom | Fred8, things are a little messy now because they're updating Xserver | 23:40 |
| tcopeland | oh thank you because i think my x broke due to proprietary drivers not being up to speed with the current x | 23:41 |
| Fred8 | tcopeland: eg: Alpha, Beta, | 23:41 |
| tcopeland | alpha | 23:41 |
| tcopeland | i believe it is alpha 3 at the moment... | 23:41 |
| Fred8 | tcopeland: thank you | 23:41 |
| Fred8 | i must to use maverick on eeepc1001PX because the network interface is not detected during the installation from netboot.tar.gz | 23:42 |
| Fred8 | it's detected with maverick | 23:42 |
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