[00:00] hi all [00:01] can someone mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/gedit/+bug/615506 as triaged please? [00:01] Ubuntu bug 615506 in gedit (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Underscore must be a part of the word (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [00:05] darran: which importance? [00:06] wishlist or low === darran is now known as drizzle [00:08] well, decide and give me a reason [00:08] wishlist [00:08] it is marked as an enhancement in gnome [00:09] and it is not part of the product design [00:09] i was able to use find with underscores [00:11] ok, agreed [00:12] man [00:12] the gnome bug hasnt been touched before [00:12] and it was logged in 2007 [00:12] drizzle: enhancements in most open source projects are at the mercy of the developers fancy [00:13] yes [00:13] i understand [00:13] even in private industry [00:13] depending on management and developer clout [00:13] drizzle: done [00:13] th [00:13] x [00:29] if I hit the volumn keys on my keyboard => it works [00:29] if I left click the volume indicator, then hit the volumn keys on my keyboard => does not work [00:29] it is expected? [00:29] (maverick) [00:35] btw, for those that followed the Debian BTS session in -classroom a while ago and aren't in #debian-ubuntu - a small follow up from Rhonda http://rhonda.deb.at/blog/debian/on-BTS-usage.html [01:22] An easy one to confirm if someone has volume keys on the keyboard: bug 615622 [01:22] Launchpad bug 615622 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Cannot change sound volume with keyboard while sound indicator is open (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615622 [01:36] hi friends [01:36] ? [01:37] test [01:37] grr [01:38] hi, you're here [01:38] oh hello. [01:38] were you expecting me [01:38] what were you expecting exactly? :p [01:38] !test [01:38] hrm? [01:38] yes [01:38] !test | Cakester [01:38] Cakester: please see above [01:39] !test [01:39] hrm? [01:39] * micahg stops abusing the bot now [01:39] ok it works [01:39] so um [01:39] I wrote a tutorial on getting NASM to compile within Code::Blocks. [01:40] orly [01:41] yes [01:41] would you be TimothyTimbers? [01:43] yeah why [01:43] ? [01:43] just curious, found your tutorial [01:43] not bad [01:43] you are good at the google [01:44] it's because i'm a h4x0r [01:44] my user title says that too [01:44] although more l33t [01:45] i actually read it straight from your interwebs [01:45] i popped the firewall and dropped in a logic bomb [01:46] i can use push and pop [01:46] whoa [01:46] that's crazy talk [01:46] it amazed me that this is legal mov [eax], ebx [01:46] why? [01:46] because i thought the [ ] could only be on the right [01:47] for like the past years [01:47] nope [01:47] so sad [01:47] that would be rather limiting, don't you think? [01:47] yeah. was pain in the ass [01:47] for example, it might be convenient to: [01:48] mov [Cakester], eBEERx [01:48] haha, the beer register [01:48] moving it to Cakestar's address [01:48] *Cakester [01:49] these ads on facebook say these girls want a boyfriend [01:49] i wonder if people know that i'm just goofing off or if they think i'm always this weird [01:49] that has nothing to do with debugging [01:50] beer? for some people, beer has everything to do with debugging [01:50] maco, i need to debug my web browser, or these ads will just keep mysteriously showing up [01:50] drosenbe: no, Cakester's thing aobut girls has nothing to do with fixing bugs [01:50] ah [01:50] stricty on topic, i see [01:50] maco, i need to debug my web browser, or these ads will just keep mysteriously showing up' [01:50] adblock plus? [01:51] does that play well with NS? [01:51] sure [01:52] drosenbe, i think i have seen maco before. not in the bug channel [01:53] ok... [01:53] and? [01:53] maco, do you need help with a bug? [01:53] no [01:54] ive been in this channel 24/7 for about a year [01:54] im not triaging right now though [01:54] maco, that is ageist. sorry [01:54] what is triaging [01:54] Cakester: Please stop harassing maco in every channel you find her in. [01:54] oh lord [01:54] Are we here to take care of bugs or what? [01:55] here let me take the initiative [01:55] Cakester: this behavior is not going to help you get unbanned in those channels you have been banned in. [01:55] Cakester: if you dont know what bug triaging is, why are you here? [01:55] I never said that me being banned was a bug [01:55] maco: to learn. [01:56] hey, that's actually a pretty good reason [01:56] i'm surprised [01:56] Cakester: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad [01:59] i have a bug to report now :( [01:59] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs [01:59] gpg --fingerprint did not give me a code [01:59] you should probably file it in launchpad [02:00] is this ping the code? [02:00] that's not a sentence. [02:00] no. This was me [02:02] mov bed, [jfi_] // bye [02:03] hold plz [02:04] does it normally take over 5 minutes to generate a OpenPNP key [02:04] PGP [02:04] sorry [02:04] do stuff on your box [02:04] it needs activity to get enough entropy to generate a key [02:06] lol [02:06] oh hey! [02:06] i think it went through [02:06] * hggdh is still unsure what this has to do with triaging [02:08] this won't steal my social security number will it [02:08] ok sweet [02:09] did it say i need to wait 10 minutes [02:10] does it hurt to try earlier? [02:11] doh yes [02:16] wth [02:16] i can't decrypt that [02:16] i can barely code an obfuscater [02:17] gosh darn yahoo can't do it for me [02:19] Cakester: please stay on topic [02:30] pop password? [02:35] i need to pay to have pop too work [02:42] why do none the mail clients i need to get the PGP to be read work [02:45] wth [02:53] Cakester: you try thunderbird? [02:57] i tried evolution and thunderbird. it looks like because i am using a yahoo email, i need to buy the yahoo mail plus [02:57] to use the pop [02:57] so i can use the pgp decryptor on a message [02:57] Cakester: yes, or switch to another provider :) [02:57] aol, gmail [02:57] oh [02:57] is it worth buying the pop [02:57] my yahoo email is tied to most my ubuntu accounts [02:57] like the shop [02:58] that's your call, I use aol, gmail, and my own domain for stuff, mostly my own domain [02:58] well i want to be well known by one email name [02:59] so aol lets me use it for free? [03:00] yes [03:00] super cool! [03:01] now i just need it to send the pgp thing to my aol now :( [03:01] Cakester: huh? [03:01] you set up GPG locally and use IMAP [03:04] oo i know i cna forward it from my yahoo [03:06] woo hoo [03:12] ok [03:12] i signed the code of conduct [03:13] do i get a hip hip hooray? [03:38] Can someone tell me what package provides the fdisk command? man fdisk says util-linux-ng but apt-cache policy util-linux-ng returns unable to locate package [03:41] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/37322-fdisk-not-worked.html [03:41] ? [03:42] Cakester, was there a question related to that? please see the topic as support is in #ubuntu not here [03:43] bazhang: Cakester was responding to a question I posed just before you entered [03:43] IdleOne, I see, thanks [03:43] I don't see how a fedora link is relevant to my question though [03:43] so [03:43] did you try the root? [03:44] thr root? [03:44] the* [03:44] anomie, says run fdisk as root [03:44] he is a linux guru it says [03:44] I know how to run it, I am looking for the package that provides it [03:47] Reason I am asking is because if you run: fdisk -l it simply returns to a prompt. It should respond with "Permission denied, run as root" or something to that effect. [03:47] I wanted to report a bug but without knowing what package.... [03:50] IdleOne: util-linux [03:50] micahg: thank you. I didn't think of narrowing my search [03:51] IdleOne: try apt-file next time [03:51] IdleOne: or dpkg -S [03:51] well look at that [03:51] :) [03:51] thanks [04:21] hi [04:22] welcome to ubuntu-bugs [04:22] how may i help you [04:22] Cakester, no need for that [04:23] ok [05:11] Is it a bug if I can edit a byte of a variable declared in the .data section at runtime? [05:12] the .bss section I thought was for that purpose [05:13] hey [05:13] my 72 hour ban should be lifted pretty soon [06:07] Hey sorry to bother.. but I can't find out where I create my wiki at [06:07] for describing my interests and skills [06:07] it is one of the steps to requesting a mentor [06:07] I found the user prefs page [06:07] Cakester, this is certainly not the channel for that [06:08] i know, but is there a channel for that? [06:08] that i can go t o [06:09] oh i found the list of channels [06:09] ok [06:12] Cakester: people are split between https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirstnameLastname and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Somenickname in my experience [06:12] oh [06:12] (I don't know that there is a right channel for that, so I figured I'd just answer ;P) [06:13] oh wow. so i can literally start an empty page [06:13] pretty cool [06:14] others won't be able to edit my page will they [06:14] only trusted people right? [06:14] anyone with a Launchpad account that isn't blocked from editing can edit any wiki.ubuntu.com page, as far as I know [08:11] good morning [08:13] hello [08:13] and welcome to ubuntu-bugs [08:13] where the bugs are the.. buggiest if bugs at all! [08:13] or maybe not idk [08:18] Cakester: if you don't know - don't speak in the channel [08:19] i am going to walk away as this appears to be some form of aggression [08:19] ohhhhhh ;) [08:45] hello here https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/390289 i assign to gnome-power-manager, add stock comment of bug without package assigned, request if reproducible in lucid, right ? [08:45] Ubuntu bug 390289 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "do not start without power supply (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [08:45] request of apport-collect [09:03] njin: let me read the bug [09:04] njin: I've seen this bug before, let me search for the master bugreport === om26er_ is now known as om26er [09:05] njin: the user seems to be affected by bug 272247 [09:05] Launchpad bug 272247 in linux (Mandriva) (and 6 other projects) "System freezes during boot, unless I hold a key down (affects: 41) (dups: 17) (heat: 314)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272247 [09:06] njin: so mark your bug as a duplicate of this bug, and point the reporter to the workaround [09:06] which is mentioned in the description of the master bug [09:06] thekorn: have you same minut for me ? [09:07] njin: sure [09:07] thekorn: thanks, haw can i found duplicates ? [09:08] njin: good question. launchpad has some search functionality, so you can search for strings etc. [09:08] njin: bu IMHO google is much more powerful [09:09] the korn, i've noted that you found this much fast [09:09] njin: just because I knew that there was such a bug [09:09] because I've read about it somewhere before [09:10] and I knew that it was related to the HP hardware of the user [09:10] ah, ok thanks for explain [09:10] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+battery+freeze+on+boot&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= [09:11] and fortunatly it is on the first page of [09:11] ^^ [09:11] thekorn: :-) [09:12] njin: there is also another "tool" which helps us to find duplicates, it's the bug patterns for apport [09:13] thekorn: i don't know it [09:13] so if you think there is a certain pattern in some bugreports which is pointing to the same issue, you can write such pattern to find duplicates [09:14] njin: but it's a more advanced feature, and won't work in case of this bug [09:14] ok, then is better for me go on with little syeps ;-) [09:14] *steps [09:15] great! - thanks for helping [09:16] thekorn: thanks [09:17] njin: now you need to follow the steps I described above and mark 390289 as duplicate of the other one ;) [09:17] if not, I can do it for you [09:18] no, i'm busy with my wife questionsssss 8ton of question), i do it, thanks [09:19] great, take your time [09:22] thekorn: done, thanks for the help [09:59] Is there a known problem with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+filebug? I keep getting "Timeout error" (Error ID: OOPS-1683E551) [09:59] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1683E551 [10:01] ppearse: people in #launchpad might be of better help, they can tell you exactly what's going wrong [10:01] thekorn: Thanks - will try [10:18] njin: btw, a useful feature of google is to be able to only search a specific site like searching for 'site:launchpad.net ubuntu battery freeze on boot' will only show results from launchpad [10:18] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Alaunchpad.net+ubuntu+battery+freeze+on+boot&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= [10:32] yofel_:thanks [10:39] hello this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/390295 is a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/293642 but is expired, what i have to do ? [10:40] Ubuntu bug 390295 in ubuntu "laptop function keys makes gnome hang (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [10:41] reopen the exipired and mark 390295 as duplicate asking if someone can reproduce the issue on Lucid ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:35] hi there [11:35] did I post enought information in bug 615509 for the SRU [11:35] Launchpad bug 615509 in collectd (Ubuntu) "curl based plugins are unable to check local files (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615509 [11:37] baptistemm: it says the fix is in 4.9, so 4.10.1 in maverick is fixed? [11:37] it should [11:37] baptistemm: also, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure [11:38] I don't use maverick on my server, but the error disappeared after I patched collectd [11:38] so I did [11:39] baptistemm: ok, then please set the bug to Fix Released as it's fixed in maverick and nominate the bug for lucid [11:39] you might need to put up a 'TEST CASE:' part with reproduce instructions in the descriptions for the SRU verification [11:40] *description [11:46] yofel: actually the bug is not fixed yep in 4.10 [11:46] but will be in next release [11:47] perhaps I should report to debien BTS as we push from there [11:47] debian [11:48] yofel: can you take a look at my post up 11:39 - 11:41 thanks [11:48] eeeek, misread my apt-cache output. it's not fixed in maverick yet as that has the same version in lucid, sorry -.- [11:48] *as in lucid [11:49] debian has 4.10 [11:50] baptistemm, that's a *huge* patch for a sru. Is all of this needed ? the git commit is only a 1 line change. [11:52] njin: hm.. from what I see those seem to be duplicates, but we need someone to add the information bryce asked to get the other bug out of the expired state [11:52] I don't know enough about X bugs to give you more advice, maybe ask in #ubuntu-x [13:01] heelp after updates 14h ago cant start comp. logo loads then comp stops thinking. [13:12] pedro_, nigelb: how's the hug day organisation coming on? [13:12] pedro_, nigelb: I blogged about it - do we need more publicity? [13:12] dholbach, i'm going to put some bugs on the page now [13:13] dholbach, ~50 of each sounds fine? [13:13] we have lot of bugs and don't want to scare people :-P [13:13] we can always put a link with 'click here for more' [13:14] dholbach, i need to post on the QA blog btw and on identi.ca, twitter [13:14] nigelb: ^ do you have an opinion? [13:14] * dholbach hugs pedro_ [13:14] * pedro_ hugs dholbach back [13:19] whata... [13:24] pedro_: 50 will do great :) [13:24] sorry, /me was away. [13:27] nigelb, ok i'm getting the lists now ;-) [13:31] dholbach: we could use more. I'll blog tonight. [13:38] guys, is it normal that the gnome-power-manager indicator doesn't have an icon? [13:40] devildante: maybe. User can set it be not shown I think. [13:40] * nigelb checks just in case [13:40] Yep, user can set. [13:41] no, I mean, the indicator is there, but without a battery icon [13:53] dholbach, nigelb do you guys have any progress graph we could add to the hug day page? [13:54] dholbach, nigelb there's a javascript one on the ReviewGuide but i don't think that's going to work on the wiki... [13:54] pedro_: bdmurray has a few [13:54] ok so in the graphs directory ;-) [13:54] looking into those [13:55] http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/patches/ [13:57] awesome ;-) [14:09] vish: I can't attend the meeting as my timezone bites haha.... I sent you an email regarding the progress of nisshh & gorilla [14:12] pedro_: are you around ? [14:14] njin, hello, yes [14:14] hello fabio! [14:14] hello pedro_ [14:21] pedro_: i've marked this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/390295 as duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/293642 expired ad reopened, but i think tho assign at ....input-kbd, in the latest post there's something regarding steps to reproduce but probably in the same laptop [14:21] Ubuntu bug 390295 in ubuntu "laptop function keys makes gnome hang (dup-of: 293642)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [14:21] Ubuntu bug 293642 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "[Intrepid - Karmic] Fn-key locks up computer (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 36)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [14:22] fabio: i'm fabio too [14:23] fabio: i'm from como [14:23] hahahahaha [14:23] ok [14:27] pedro_: i forget the greetings, sorry . [14:33] In any situations where fsck must be started ( even for re-mount cycle value reached - thus very normal check) -- at boot time, fsck terminate and lets the system ( init process ) to wait for fsck status that never returns to the init execution. putting the boot process to hang state [14:35] I have to reboot into a linux live, manually fsck my file system and then reboot to Ubuntu normally [14:35] Happens to ALL ubuntu derivated distribs [14:36] It leads to SERIOUS confusion [14:36] On what version of Ubuntu have you tested this situation? [14:37] very annoying for me -- but for newbies, can leads to total confusion and leads them to think they've lost their file system [14:37] Version: since 9.10 [14:37] running 10.04 [14:38] I cannot report the data since it is in boot time and must reboot -- previous msg data lost [14:39] tested: Mint 8, Kubuntu 9.10+, Studio ...etc [14:42] bretzel: I cannot repeat. Every so often I get the usual 'x has been mounted Y times, fsck-ing', and no problems -- boot keeps on as usual [14:42] ho! and sometime on normal re-mount cycle, fsck is correct I said 'sometime', but for any other reasons ( unclean umount) , fsck always fails at bootime [14:44] I have "filesystem inconsistency error" on every partitions and then boot process hangs - keyboard does not work so "cold reset" is necessary [14:45] I agree if you don't have the situation, you cannot see the prob. but It happens all the time for me [14:45] bretzel: we will nee the logs, really. If you have another box, you could set a network console [14:45] to capture the boot log [14:46] that would be very hard because as you know, fsck is started very early at boot time - no network level process started yet [14:48] heh [14:48] indeed [14:49] bretzel: why do you get so many fscks being run? [14:49] /var/log/kernel* : no traces last log.2.gz stops august 1 [14:50] dont' ask me why fsck starts... I cannot tell you [14:51] might be Win7 ... ( dual boot often switching between ) thus affecting only mount-cycles [14:54] hum [14:54] you access the Linux FSs via Win? [14:55] the only reason for fsck (apart from the usual mount count/time triggers popping) is the FS was not cleanly closed [14:58] sorry was afk [14:58] no! no ext access from Win [14:59] and last unclean umount was months ago nothing to do with this installation [14:59] there is no ext4fs drivers in windows [15:02] Now that I am calm :-) seems I have to live with this strange behaviour for my computer. It is ok for me but I hope that situation does not raises for newbies... [15:07] bretzel: I have not heard of anything like this. I really would like you to open a bug on it (a priori, assign to linux) -- run 'ubuntu-bug linux' [15:07] and explain what is going on there [15:08] http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1331500&page=2 [15:08] please, read page 2 also... [15:09] seems old but one reports having same behaviour on 9.10 [15:09] ... [15:11] wow! and bunch of messages dated from january 2010 .... it is a sign ... [15:16] some ones thought it was modem-manager - but later we read that it has nothing to do with modem-man ... the common situation is " file systems not mounted and system hangs" obviously, if fsck stops and do not resturns clean, init Mother process wait for ever ... [15:17] I am telling you that it happens only in Ubuntu out of my other distribs tests ( Fedora, OpenSuSE, Arch, Sabayon ) [15:19] okay, I have to go -- And Ubuntu still IS the distrib all star! vannot live without it... tried all other linux distribs I could and Ubuntu always returns first for me :-) [15:20] bretzel: seconded :) [15:20] bretzel: although arch comes as a close second :p [15:20] kermiac: neat thanks! [15:20] devildante: after hours of configs ...:-) [15:21] ciao and thank for your time. ( just leaving this channel I have C++ heavy load of CODING to do ;_) [15:28] devildante: whats the status of your addons branch? [15:28] vish: still awaiting review [15:28] devildante: merged? [just noticed your update manager got merged ;)] [15:28] ah cool.. [15:29] vish: [thank you :)] [15:29] np.. [15:29] vish: I'll bug mpt now for this addons branch [15:29] too bad we cant subscribe to merges :s [15:30] report a bug, importance wishlist :p === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [16:33] dholbach, nigelb may you folks have a look to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100812 and see if everything is ok ? [16:33] I've added some bug lists [16:33] pedro_: neat! :) [16:34] hello devildante! [16:34] holy cow [16:34] hi pedro_ [16:34] that's going to keep them busy for a bit :-P [16:34] * dholbach hugs pedro_ [16:34] * devildante hugs dholbach and pedro_ [16:34] hey devildante [16:34] * dholbach hugs devildante too [16:34] dholbach: hi :) [16:34] * pedro_ hugs dholbach and devildante back [16:35] I'm looking forward to that hug day -it'll be great [16:36] nigelb: what about that training session? [16:36] dholbach: is there a training session? [16:36] devildante: that's what we're discussing right now :) [16:36] dholbach: what is it about? [16:37] for the next hug day on thursday [16:37] about patch review and forwarding them [16:37] okay, okay, okay [16:37] I might learn something from this :) [16:38] i all [16:38]