[02:06] <Zed_> hello?
[02:19] <holstein> hey Zed_
[02:19] <holstein> whats up?
[02:19] <holstein> hmmmm
[15:56] <crysaz> Hi. Any has anyone played around with Pioneers DJM 5000 mixer? It claims to be a USB audio interface, but I didn't managed to get it working.
[15:57] <holstein> crysaz: i have not
[15:57] <holstein> did it show up in lsusb?
[15:59] <holstein> yeah, i dont even see pioneer @ http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[15:59]  * holstein doesnt like USB interfaces much anyways
[16:01] <crysaz> holstein: yes and there is a entry under /proc/asound/, but there isn't any pcm device
[16:02] <crysaz> me either, but I took a bit of a risk and trusted on advertised standard compliance
[16:02] <holstein> crysaz: did you already buy it?
[16:03] <holstein> w0w
[16:03] <holstein> that thing is expensive
[16:03] <crysaz> I do have 30 days to deside am I keeping it
[16:03] <holstein> its pretty much a 4 channel line mixer
[16:03] <holstein> no preamps
[16:03] <holstein> unless your a DJ
[16:04] <holstein> and going to take advantage of some of those specialized features
[16:04] <crysaz> a bit, but for our klub
[16:04] <holstein> 800 bucks gets you a pretty decent mixer
[16:05] <crysaz> shame that i'm not impressed with the quality of the electronics
[16:05] <holstein> nah
[16:05] <holstein> that seems just overpriced
[16:05] <crysaz> i send it once back, becouse 3rd channel didn't light up
[16:07] <holstein> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&client=serp&q=behringer+mixer&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=13837850350322521424&ei=LmthTJ-4McK88gaIqpn-CQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CFMQ8wIwAg#
[16:08] <holstein> theres nothing on that pioneer that i need that this doesnt have
[16:08] <holstein> however, the beringer has preamps
[16:08]  * holstein is not a DJ though
[16:08] <crysaz> now i have bit odd feeling on those sends and returns. there shouldn't be any cable sensing and i didn't get it on.
[16:09]  * holstein says return it
[16:10] <holstein> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&client=serp&q=line+mixer&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=18097853489972457865&ei=7mphTPSrFoH88AbW66mGCg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CEkQ8wIwAQ#
[16:12] <crysaz> aaaarghh. but it's perfect mixer for my needs! :)
[16:13] <holstein> yeah?
[16:14] <holstein> whats it do that a line mixer doesnt do?
[16:14] <holstein> whats it do that makes it worth $600US more
[16:16] <crysaz> decent controls for djing, eq, cues, two stereo outputs and it should work as an audio interface
[16:20] <crysaz> and i already have a line mixer. or more like a matrix miser for fixed setup. i am driving our pa with 32-channel live mixer and with this one.
[16:22] <holstein> well, if it works for you
[16:22] <holstein> but im not going to split hairs
[16:22] <holstein> i think that thing is about 500 bucks to much for what it is
[16:22] <holstein> but again, i dont DJ
[16:23] <holstein> i would think a mixer with a couple different stereo outs
[16:23] <holstein> with routing
[16:23] <holstein> that would have all that functinality
[16:23] <holstein> and be more rugged for the road
[16:23] <holstein> that with a cheap USB interface
[16:24] <holstein> BUT you might be able to get that pioneer working with linux
[16:30] <crysaz> doesn't seem that likely. i couldn't find any threads on this subject.
[16:31] <holstein> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/422094-REG/Behringer_UCA202_UCA202_USB_Audio_Interface.html
[16:31] <holstein> those work great from what i hear
[16:31] <holstein> plug and play
[16:31] <holstein> and cheap
[16:39] <crysaz> if i change the setup, i'll propably buy some mid-range firewire interface
[17:24] <crysaz> ok. there is somekind of wire sensing present in send&return