[00:22] <DrHalan> is xorg 1.9 working fine?
[00:23] <DrHalan> im am afraid of restarting...
[00:26] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[00:26] <BUGabundo> save your old debs
[00:28] <Daekdroom> DrHalan, I'd wait till somebody tell you the transition is complete.
[00:30] <DrHalan> well it didn't hold any packages back
[01:09] <Robertf> Hello
[01:09] <Daekdroom> is mutter currently broken?
[01:11] <Robertf> i installed maverick on EEEpc 1001PX. I set capture to 80 (alsamixer). My friends can't hear me in skype
[01:14] <Andre_Gondim> Robertf, may you try use pulse?
[01:15] <Robertf> Andre_Gondim: i only use ALsa
[01:15] <Robertf> Andre_Gondim: I chose "command line install" & installed alsa
[01:16] <Andre_Gondim> hmmm, I don't know
[01:16] <Robertf> ok
[03:50] <cjohnston> Newest update not so fun... :-( can't get back into ubuntu
[03:54] <cjohnston> is anyone else having issues with libgirepository1.0-1_0.9.3-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb?
[03:55] <DanaG> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/multiverse/binary-armel/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[03:55] <DanaG> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:55] <DanaG> error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
[03:58] <Dink> cjohnston, apt-cache policy mutter
[03:59] <cjohnston> installed:none
[04:00] <DanaG> stupid thing... ignored my specified mirror!
[04:00] <cjohnston> Dink: ^
[04:00] <DanaG> Of course you can't find ARM on security... ARM is only on ports!
[04:01] <Dink> ohh sorry not mutter libgirepository1.0-1
[04:02] <cjohnston> installed none, candidate 0.9.3
[04:02] <Dink> What is the issue ?
[04:02] <cjohnston> I can't boot into ubuntu anymore
[04:03] <cjohnston> some packages depend on that package
[04:03] <cjohnston> and I can't install that package
[04:03] <Dink> That package was recently rebuilt
[04:04] <cjohnston> So is there probably a problem with the rebuild of it?
[04:04] <Dink> You try another mirror?
[04:09] <cjohnston> no
[04:10] <Dink> Guess wait till your mirror has it available. The build is fine. I had an issue earlier and everything works now.
[04:11] <cjohnston> what mirror did you use?
[04:11] <Dink> mirror.anl.gov
[04:12] <cjohnston> thats what im using
[04:12] <Dink> so what exactly is your issue ?
[04:14] <cjohnston> I was running a dist-upgrade it failed.. I tried rebooting and it hangs at the purple screen
[04:14] <cjohnston> So I booted in recovery with networking
[04:15] <cjohnston> run dist-upgrade and it says some packages depend on the libgirepositry1.0-1
[04:15] <cjohnston> so it fails
[04:15] <cjohnston> try using -f
[04:15] <Dink> and what package is that
[04:15] <cjohnston> gir1.0-glib-2.0 python-gobject python-gobject-cairo python-gobject-dbg
[04:16] <cjohnston> run dist-upgrade -f and it says installing new package libgirepository1.0-1 keeping back libgirepository1.0-0
[04:17] <Dink> try dpkg -- continue -a
[04:17] <Dink> dpkg --continue -a
[04:18] <cjohnston> configure?
[04:18] <Dink> yeah that is it sorry
[04:19] <cjohnston> giving some dependency problems
[04:20] <cjohnston> 13 packages with errors
[04:22] <Dink> Got to head to bed, sorry. Next time try to be a bit more descriptive on what is happing.
[04:23] <cjohnston> k
[04:25] <robin0800> cjohnston, if you use update manager it will uninstal libgirepository1.0-0 and theninstall libgirepository1.0-1 as a partial upgrade
[04:26] <cjohnston> robin0800: I can't boot, so I can't use update manager
[04:26] <cjohnston> unless i just dont know how from cli
[04:28] <robin0800> cjohnston, use sudo apt-get remove and then sudo apt-get install
[04:31] <cjohnston> trying to do apt-get remove shows some packages that have unmet dependencies and says try apt-get -f install with no packages
[04:32] <cjohnston> i try that, it says its going to install libgirepository1.0-1, hit yes, i get dpkg error processing --unpack trying to overwrite
[04:33] <robin0800> cjohnston, not sure how you got in this situation I use sudo aptitude safe-upgrade and this holds back packages like that
[04:34] <cjohnston> I use dist-upgrade
[04:35] <robin0800> cjohnston, not quite the same or as safe I think
[04:35] <cjohnston> ic
[04:38] <robin0800> cjohnston, back to your problem you could try the remove command with the -f flag as dpkg has already told you, you cannot overwrite that file
[04:40] <cjohnston> that isnt working either tho
[04:45] <cjohnston> I need to hit the rack too.. I guess I'll look into this more tomorrow
[04:45] <cjohnston> thanks for your assistance robin0800
[04:48] <coz_> hey guys..is there a way to test plymouth themes while on desktop?
[05:21] <Chipaca> agh! gir is all broken, I can't compile stuff :(
[05:22] <ajmitch> yeah, it's changed a little bit
[05:23] <ajmitch> what's breaking?
[05:23] <Chipaca> /usr/share/gir-1.0/DBus-1.0.gir: Incompatible version 1.0 (supported: 1.1)
[05:25]  * ajmitch guesses this is related to the new gobject-intropspection that was uploaded
[05:26] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[05:30] <phoenix_> when will the next nvidia driver be available
[05:30] <ajmitch> Chipaca: what version of gir1.0-dbus-1.0 do you have?
[05:31] <phoenix_> i have a problem with kopete, its not showing in the system tray
[05:31] <phoenix_> yesterday i upgraded from
[05:31] <phoenix_> kde 3.5 rc2 to 3.5 rc3
[05:32] <ajmitch> Chipaca: looks like the latest upload of it failed to build for the same reason, so it'll need fixing
[05:32] <phoenix_> first i tried the live cd, the same problem was there
[05:32]  * ajmitch has no idea about kopete or nvidia drivers
[05:33] <phoenix_> hmmm
[05:35] <Chipaca> ajmitch: :(
[05:36] <Chipaca> that ... probably screws up our race-to-the-freeze plans
[05:37] <ajmitch> Chipaca: yeah, I don't know if it's as simple as changing all the .gir files to 1.1 from 1.0 in the package & re-uploading it
[05:37] <ajmitch> it's just something new that I'm unfamiliar with
[05:37] <ajmitch> I imagine you'll be asleep before seb128 is online in the morning
[05:38] <Chipaca> 2.5h from now? I hope so :)
[05:40] <phoenix_> sorry the version of kde i mentioned above is wrong , its 4.5 rc3
[05:45] <ajmitch> Chipaca: yeah, you don't need sleep do you?
[05:46] <Chipaca> ajmitch: me? nope
[05:46] <ajmitch> freeze is thursday, just stock up on caffeine
[05:46] <Chipaca> ajmitch: but I do have to get the boys up and off to kindergarden :)
[05:47]  * ajmitch pinged someone else about that breakage, but who knows
[05:47] <Chipaca> --disable-introspection got me one step closer, but something else is breaking now
[05:47]  * Chipaca looks
[05:47] <Chipaca> oh! this is breakage I can work with
[05:47] <ajmitch> this is u1-client?
[05:47] <Chipaca> yes
[05:48] <Chipaca> ./autogen.sh --with-protocol=$HOME/canonical/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/trunk --disable-introspection && make -j
[05:48] <Chipaca> ^ FTW
[05:48] <ajmitch> scary enough
[05:48] <Chipaca> make is now failing on my own code, yay :)
[05:48] <ajmitch> wasn't a new u1-storage-protocol just uploaded?
[05:49] <ajmitch> or is it too old already?
[05:49] <Chipaca> (as well it should - I'm terrible at remembering the ;s in C
[05:49]  * ajmitch is far too used to python :)
[05:49] <Chipaca> dunno, I just always point at trunk
[05:49] <DanaG> sudo ltsp-build-client --arch armel --mirror http://ports.ubuntu.com --security-mirror http://ports.ubuntu.com --updates-mirror http://ports.ubuntu.com
[05:49] <DanaG> argh, that's annoying that I had to do that.
[05:49] <DanaG> As if "mirror" wasn't enough.
[05:50] <DanaG> Without all three there, it tried to get armel from security.ubuntu.com.
[05:50] <DanaG> Fail.
[05:50] <ajmitch> DanaG: it was worse with pbuilder-dist, it somehow ignored the ARCHIVE environment variable when it came to updating
[05:50] <ajmitch> had to edit the sources.list that it made for a sparc box
[05:53] <DanaG> Trying to get an ARM (beagleboard) to act as thin-client.
[05:54] <ajmitch> sounds fun
[05:54] <ajmitch> making much progress with that?
[06:07] <DanaG> I'm building the arm chroot, and will probably just end up putting that on an sd card.
[06:07] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/595019
[06:07] <DanaG> argh!
[06:07] <DanaG> more than one suite specified for show_static (dapper dapper-updates  dapper-backports hardy hardy-updates hardy-backports intrepid  intrepid-updates intrepid-backports jaunty jaunty-updates  jaunty-backports karmic karmic-updates karmic-backports lucid)
[06:15] <FireCrotch> on the Kubuntu Maverick Alpha 3 CD, how long does it take for KDM to time out and the failsafe mode to start, usually?
[06:15] <FireCrotch> I let mine sit on the Kubuntu logo screen for like 10 minutes and it did nothing
[06:17] <phoenix_> http://imagebin.org/109055
[06:18] <phoenix_> something wrong with the thumbnail generation
[07:13] <DanaG> http://design.canonical.com/2010/07/the-ubuntu-font/
[07:14] <DanaG> " The font is scheduled for completion 8th August and this is when we aim to open the beta to everyone. "
[07:14] <DanaG> Hmm, has that happened?
[07:18] <North_Italian69> im installing. it asks for boot partition
[07:18] <North_Italian69> it suggest ext3
[07:18] <North_Italian69> why?
[07:18] <North_Italian69> not better the ext4?
[07:19] <North_Italian69> in more i have to create the boot partition
[07:19] <North_Italian69> what size?
[07:29] <red2kic> North_Italian69: ext2 for /boot, you mean?
[07:31] <North_Italian69> red2kic: during the manual partitioning, maverik asked for a /boot partition formatted as ext3
[07:32] <North_Italian69> red2kic: i made one of 1 gb ext4 (the fs has took the 20% more or less)
[07:33] <North_Italian69> probabilly i mistaken
[07:33] <red2kic> North_Italian69: Ah. I guess Maverick introduced ext3 as /boot -- I always have known /boot for ext2 -- There are not much of differences in benefits, I think?
[07:34] <North_Italian69> do you installe maverik?
[07:35] <red2kic> North_Italian69: If you're not putting /boot on the different partition (or hard drive), then you can skip /boot -- I believe. Since everything would reside on a same partition. (No, I'm using Lucid and I'm installing ArchLinux on my netbook as a learning experience).
[07:35] <red2kic> (Waiting for it to finish installing gnome)
[07:35] <North_Italian69> so you are installing it
[07:36] <North_Italian69> exactly like me
[07:36] <North_Italian69> cross the fingers
[07:36] <red2kic> North_Italian69: Afaik, I know ext2 have no journal. /boot are mostly static files.
[08:27] <North_Italian69> maverik ask to create a /boot partition. that partition has to be primary?
[08:44] <void^> North_Italian69: no.
[08:46] <North_Italian69> void^: and /swap area?
[08:47] <SwedeMike> swap can be a file.
[08:47] <SwedeMike> or any block device
[08:49] <North_Italian69> then is the same
[08:50] <North_Italian69> it can be primary or logical
[08:50] <North_Italian69> right?
[08:50] <SwedeMike> ANY BLOCK DEVICE.
[08:55] <void^> to make it short, nothing needs to be primary
[08:59]  * North_Italian69 is away: Gone away for now
[09:08]  * North_Italian69 is back.
[09:17] <SwedeMike> North_Italian69: public away/back messages are really annoying.
[09:18] <lok> hi there
[09:19] <lok> I m actually using xubuntu 10.04, i've try to update xubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10 alpha 3 but it didn't work. Furthemore i ve seen on the qa tracker that the upgrade test havn 't been performed so maybe it s a known problem; does anybody have succesfully updated xubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10?
[09:19] <North_Italian69> i removed
[09:19] <North_Italian69> sorry
[09:21] <North_Italian69> now should be totally off
[09:26] <North_Italian69> i tried to install 3 times in different ways maverik 64 but has problem during the packages installation
[09:26] <North_Italian69> i tried with btrfs
[09:27] <North_Italian69> after with ext4
[09:27] <North_Italian69> and once with the guided partitioning
[09:27] <North_Italian69> nothing
[09:28] <North_Italian69> ill retry in few week
[09:28] <North_Italian69> maybe with a 32 bit version
[09:28] <North_Italian69> probabily is more compatible
[09:34] <dennda> Where did the old ubuntu.com/testing site go?
[09:45] <DanaG> ah, login gave: "no response from server... restarting."
[09:46] <DanaG> er, wrong tab.
[12:04] <yofel> does someone know if you can switch to a tty in kvm?
[12:07] <yofel> ah, found it
[12:08] <yofel> ctrl+alt+2 to the qemu console and then type 'sendkey ctrl-alt-f2'
[12:08] <yofel> then ctrl+alt+1 back to the vm
[14:04] <shadeslayer_> hi, in maverick i have no X after latest round of updates
[14:04] <shadeslayer_> ( afaik there was a whole upload of new X )
[14:05] <shadeslayer_> i have the nvidia drivers, any suggestions apart from the usual, dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current ?
[14:09] <popey> shadeslayer_: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[14:11] <shadeslayer_> popey: paste.ubuntu.com/476436
[14:12] <shadeslayer_> i think its a issue with the nvidia drivers, but ive recompiled them with the new kernel via dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current
[14:13] <Spirits-Sight> How do I fix this issue? "N: Ignoring file 'ubuntu-wine-ppa-lucid.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension" I have a few different ones
[14:13] <shadeslayer_> Spirits-Sight: yeah same thing here, try to rm the above said file
[14:13] <shadeslayer_> also... lucid?
[14:14] <Spirits-Sight> I am using 10.10
[14:14] <Spirits-Sight> I got a few of these
[14:14] <shadeslayer_> Spirits-Sight: yes but the ppa is of lucid i thinkg
[14:14] <shadeslayer_> -g
[14:15] <Pici> Yes, those files are renamed when you upgrade to a new release.
[14:15] <shadeslayer_> popey: im going out for a while, ill be back in about 30 mins
[14:15] <Spirits-Sight> when I try to remove file it says cannot find
[14:16] <popey> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-wine-ppa-lucid.list.save
[14:19] <Ian_corne> that's not really fixing it tho
[14:22] <Spirits-Sight> OK, how can I rm a lot of them at once as there is so many, also how do I do a graphic sudo I forgot?
[14:33] <DrHalan> hm
[14:33] <DrHalan> now i only have failsafe x working although the dependencies are fine
[14:33] <DrHalan> does nouveau work? maybe i should get rid of nvidia-current?
[14:33] <yofel> DrHalan: does nvidia from x-updates ppa work?
[14:33] <yofel> just curious
[14:33] <DrHalan> didn't try that
[14:34] <DrHalan> should i?
[14:34] <yofel> x-updates has 256.44 - maverick currently 256.35
[14:35] <DrHalan> oh cool
[14:35] <DrHalan> i will try
[14:41] <DrHalan> still no real 3d support in nouveau i gues
[14:42] <Ian_corne> nah
[14:43] <Spirits-Sight> OK now I am getting this error after doing the update today     Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:43] <Spirits-Sight>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libgirepository1.0-1_0.9.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[14:43] <Spirits-Sight> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:43] <Spirits-Sight> I get this after also doing apt-get install -f
[14:44] <charlie-tca> Spirits-Sight: installing "libgirepository1.0-1" fixed that for me
[14:46] <Spirits-Sight> charlie-tca: it won't install
[14:46] <Spirits-Sight> same type of err
[14:47] <Spirits-Sight> and somehow many many things got remove when trying to fix it so now I don't even have update-manager installed along with many other items like the software store etc
[14:49] <charlie-tca> I don't either. I just used the terminal to apt-get install it
[14:49] <charlie-tca> I left update manager off, since it wants to remove half my installed apps
[14:49] <Spirits-Sight> how do I do the purge and tell it to reinstall gnome desktop
[14:49] <DrHalan> okay ill restart x
[14:50] <DrHalan> cya guys
[14:50] <Spirits-Sight> yep I would agree as it did that to me
[14:51] <charlie-tca> don't know hw to reinstall desktop at this point. There is too many broken items
[14:52] <Spirits-Sight> what about cleaning the cache under the /var/cache/apt/archives/
[14:52] <Spirits-Sight> it seems to be stuck on that
[15:06] <DrHalan> mh no
[15:10] <shadeslayer_> anyone have a answer to my X problem? :P
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> log at : http://paste.ubuntu.com/476453
[15:16] <DrHalan> when is the new theme comeing to maverick?
[15:17] <Pici> What new theme?
[15:18] <shadeslayer_> Pici: theres talk about this new gnome theme
[15:18] <shadeslayer_> idk alot but saw it a few months back
[15:33] <shadow> Glad to see you there, update-grub while making  Generating grub.cfg ... is constantly *hanging on*. Where is the solution?
[15:33] <shadeslayer_> shadow: too many installed kernels?
[15:36] <shadow> shadeslayer_: hello! I've already deleted some of them. Look at there please :) (Yes, kernels from 9.10 even) http://paste.ubuntu.com/476463/
[15:36] <patdk-wk> that is all? I have like 30 of them in mine, but no windows7 one :)
[15:39] <shadow> blinking cursor and nothing to happen further
[15:39] <shadeslayer_> shadow: cant help much, i dont have X :P
[15:39] <shadow> shadeslayer_: mopc + weechat ;) ?
[15:39]  * shadow mocp
[15:42] <shadeslayer_> shadow: nah just irssi :P
[15:42] <shadeslayer_> idk what mopc is tho
[15:42] <shadeslayer_> !info mopc
[15:42] <shadow> !mocp
[15:42] <shadeslayer_> shadow: that wont work
[15:43] <shadow> ok
[15:45] <shadeslayer_> !find mocp
[15:45] <shadeslayer_> that on the other hand should return something :P
[15:45] <shadow> ubottu, right, moc
[16:17] <DrHalan> anyone have dependency problems with epiphany?
[16:25] <om26er> DrHalan, I have not installed it *but when I try to install it I dont get any dependency error
[16:26] <DrHalan> om26er: i mean epiphany-browser not the game
[16:27] <DrHalan> try sudo apt-get install  libgirepository1.0-0
[16:28] <om26er> DrHalan, build failed for epiphany
[16:28] <om26er> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/2.30.2-1ubuntu5/+build/1914533
[16:28] <DrHalan> hrm
[16:28] <DrHalan> where is 2.31?
[16:29] <om26er> maybe not updated for M
[16:29] <DrHalan> :S
[16:29] <DrHalan> i hope they will
[16:29] <DrHalan> now that gnome 2.32 is planned
[16:29] <DrHalan> created a little mess in the upgrades i guess
[16:30]  * om26er also wish for evolution and nautilus 2.32 
[16:31] <DrHalan> i am using elementary ppas so i have 2.32 nautilus
[16:37] <lok> Hi there, I m actually using xubuntu 10.04, i've try to upgrade xubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10 alpha 3 but it didn't work. Furthemore i ve seen on the qa tracker that the upgrade test havn 't been performed so maybe it's a known problem; does anybody have succesfully updated xubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10?
[16:38] <DrHalan> lok: what do you mean it "didn't work"
[16:38] <charlie-tca> yes
[16:38] <charlie-tca> lok: what command did you use to upgrade?
[16:39] <lok> i ve used update-manager -d
[16:40] <lok> after i ve got a message: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade......
[16:41] <charlie-tca> Any other error message?
[16:41] <charlie-tca> Need the full message
[16:41] <lok> the rest of the message is in french but i could try to translate it in english
[16:42] <DrHalan> just paste the french stuff ^^
[16:42] <charlie-tca> It is expected to see an error abgout unable to calculate the upgrade
[16:43] <charlie-tca> The upgrade tests were not run due to a lack of manpower, not because of known issues
[16:43] <lok> http://pastebin.com/EhDvZMC4
[16:44] <lok> maybe the dist-upgrade log could be usefull?
[16:45] <charlie-tca> You have packages frozen to a specific release?
[16:45] <charlie-tca> Or, did you run sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first?
[16:46] <lok> no i've just run sudo update-manager -d
[16:46] <DrHalan> sorry lok i got to go ^^
[16:46] <DrHalan> bye
[16:46] <lok> bye DrHalan
[16:46] <charlie-tca> If you have any errors in 10.04 updates, it will not allow you to upgrade to the development version
[16:47] <charlie-tca> It could also be caused by the broken 10.10 packages, at this point. they are uploading a new xserver, which has caused some issues.
[16:47] <lok> i ve got no error in 10.04 update, when there is new updates everything works well for 10.04
[16:47] <charlie-tca> You might have to wait a day or two before it will work
[16:48] <charlie-tca> Even the installed mavericks are breaking this week
[16:48] <lok> lol ok so i will wait a bit and try later
[16:49] <lok> thanks a lot
[16:49] <charlie-tca> But, I would "guess" that will get fixed soon, within a day or two. You could try the upgrade again then. I can not even get a good alternate cd right now for xubuntu.
[16:50] <charlie-tca> I will attempt the upgrades before the weekend, myself, to see if this gets fixed.
[17:20] <kangarooo> hello. in 10.10 bluetooth dongle not working also installed bluez and bluez-utils and gnome-bluetooth nothing helps. in 09.10 it was auto opening bluetooth icon.
[17:21] <kangarooo> finnally got bluetooth working but now it doesnt work as needed. it doesnt allow connection. clicking recieve files gives. Cannot start "Personal File Sharing" Preferences Please verify that the "Personal File Sharing" program is correctly installed. what more i need to install?
[17:25] <cjohnston> What can I do to figure out why I can boot into low graphics mode, but not regularly?
[17:27] <cjohnston> Trying 'startx' from cli I get fatal server error: no screens found
[17:27] <cjohnston> and a couple of driver errors
[17:41] <charlie-tca> cjohnston: Do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf? If so, rename it and restart sometimes works
[17:45] <cjohnston> trying that
[17:47] <cjohnston> charlie-tca: how can I tell if its still in low graphics mode.. it didnt pop-up and say it this time, but when it started, I still had the "X" mouse for a bit
[17:48] <charlie-tca> Usually, if it doesn't pop up, it isn't anymore. I check settings -> Display to see the relolution
[17:48] <charlie-tca> not sure what it is called in Ubuntu
[17:51]  * charlie-tca uses Xubuntu
[17:51] <charlie-tca> Isn't there a system -> Preferences -> Resolution ?
[17:52] <cjohnston> preferences > monitors
[17:52] <charlie-tca> heh
[17:52] <charlie-tca> well, I wasn't even close!
[17:52] <cjohnston> but I use nvidia drivers, so it said to run the nvidia app.. which told me to run sudo nvidia-xconfig and then restart the x server
[17:53] <cjohnston> now im back to not being able to boot in
[17:53] <charlie-tca> yeah, it gets like that sometimes
[17:53] <Spirits-Sight> how do I install the opensourse video driver for nvivda
[17:53] <yofel> cjohnston: can you try to add this to xorg.conf? (from #ubuntu-x)
[17:53] <yofel> Section "ServerFlags"
[17:53] <yofel> Option "IgnoreABI" "True"
[17:53] <charlie-tca> cjohnston: Re-install hardware drivers
[17:53] <yofel> and maybe use nvidia from x-updates ppa
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Spirits-Sight: sudo apt-get install nouveau  ?
[17:54] <Spirits-Sight> OK so its nouveau OK thanks
[17:54]  * charlie-tca hopes to see all these nvidia issues fixed before he has to reboot
[17:54] <yofel> charlie-tca: erm, that would be xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and they're installed by default
[17:55] <charlie-tca> that's right
[17:55] <charlie-tca> Thanks, yofel
[17:58] <cjohnston> well.. i removed the driver.. and both monitors are on, and mirror.. so maybe thats a start
[17:59] <cjohnston> now I have them both working correctly without the nvidia driver
[18:00] <cjohnston> I guess now I should try reinstalling the nvidia driver?
[18:00] <charlie-tca> yofel: ^ ^
[18:01] <yofel> cjohnston: maybe, I'm still running the old driver so I'm not exactly sure if it works, but I heard that the nvidia-current package from the x-updates ppa and the ignoreAbi option in xorg.conf make it work fine
[18:03] <cjohnston> yofel: this one: ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates?
[18:03] <yofel> yes
[18:03] <yofel> I'm gone for now, bbl
[18:03] <cjohnston> thanks yofel
[18:18] <cjohnston> yofel, charlie-tca when I installed the drivers again, same issue
[18:19] <cjohnston> guess im gonna run without the drivers for a while
[18:19] <charlie-tca> seems so
[18:26] <cjohnston> yofel's Option "IgnoreABI" may have worked charlie-tca
[18:26] <charlie-tca> Great! That's why I asked him to step up
[18:27] <cjohnston> it looks like it is
[18:27] <cjohnston> yay
[18:30] <charlie-tca> YAY! I just fight with things until I get them to work or get tired enough to give up. yofel knows the hardware drivers stuff real good.
[18:30] <cjohnston> cool
[18:55] <strycore> Hello everyone
[18:56] <strycore> Is there a way to get the nvidia driver to work on maverick or should we just wait a bit more ?
[18:58] <strycore> gotta reboot , brb
[20:29] <gnomefreak> anyone have nvidia-current running on either the .11 or .14 kernel?
[20:29] <bjsnider> add ignoreabi to the xorg.conf file and it will probably work
[20:29] <gnomefreak> also mutter still doesnt have depends fixed
[20:30] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: i dont have the xorg.conf file due to no GUI when it is there
[20:30] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: see bug 613458
[20:40] <daubers> \o/
[20:40] <daubers> finally it compiles
[20:40] <daubers> oops wrong chan, sorry
[20:47] <Andre_Gondim> any news about x server crashs?
[20:47] <jpds> Probably.
[20:48] <gnomefreak> depends what you mean
[20:52] <charlie-tca> sure seems too
[20:56] <gnomefreak> there are alot of X bugs with maverick. seems nvidia+kernel also 1.9+nvidia is a problem for alot of people
[20:56] <Pici> All the issues I've heard of are nvidia related.
[20:57] <gnomefreak> yep seems to be
[20:57] <Pici> Its working fine on my laptop with the 'ati' driver.
[20:58] <charlie-tca> must be nvidia's turn. Lucid it was ATI until the beta or later...
[20:58] <yofel> well, ati is probably broken since we got 1.8, so the ati users didn't complain this time ^^
[21:00] <gnomefreak> i grabbed upstream drivers incase .14 fails again, but hell i have nvidia-current installed and it still dumps me into nouveau
[21:01] <gnomefreak> new install of maverick A2 i think (2.6.35.11) kernel
[21:01] <gnomefreak> im just happy to have a GUI at all
[21:03]  * gnomefreak gets a feeling this is going to take forever its downloading package #9 out of 248 
[21:04] <gnomefreak> and its been running for a while now
[21:04] <gnomefreak> i have to figure out how to get bash to use timestamp
[21:04] <gnomefreak> be back in a few
[21:54] <jdobrien> if there is a spelling error (or anything else) in the CD installer, where do i report it in launchpad?
[21:55] <yofel> jdobrien: please use 'ubuntu-bug ubiquity'
[21:55] <yofel> if you're talking abou the live disk installer
[21:55] <jdobrien> yofel, that's it, thanks
[21:56] <jdobrien> It says "Please off me non-opensource software
[21:56] <yofel> oh *that* one, that's already reported I think
[21:56] <yofel> let me look for it
[21:57] <yofel> jdobrien: already fixed ;) bug 615036
[21:58] <jdobrien> yofel, cool :)
[22:15] <KB1JWQ> Forgive my ignorance; what does uname -a return on Maverick?
[22:19] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:20] <BUGabundo> KB1JWQ: Linux BluBUG 2.6.35-14-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 6 22:28:24 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:20] <KB1JWQ> Ooh, 2.6.35.  This pleases bear.
[22:20] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:26] <nebula_> hello ...is it really worth to upgrade it to 4.10 or 10.10 to sit on a stable
[22:26] <nebula_> ops 10.04
[22:27] <nebula_> hello ...is it really worth to upgrade it to 10.04  or 10.10 to sit on a stable
[22:31] <charlie-tca> nebula_: 10.10 is a development release only. It will break between now and release. We use it to test it so it has fewer breaks after release.
[22:31] <charlie-tca> As for 10.04, it depends on what you have already and whether or not everything works for you.
[22:32] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: you get everything working again?
[22:36] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: definer everything
[22:37] <charlie-tca> you know, like all the apps and the boot and all...
[22:37] <charlie-tca> lol
[22:39] <BUGabundo> like all app at boot???
[22:41] <charlie-tca> like it boots, and everything is not broken
[22:41] <charlie-tca> nm
[22:43] <BUGabundo> always